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Joe Bruno

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Oct 15, 2012, 4:07:44 PM10/15/12
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Obamacare is unnecessary


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A friend of mine has insurance with Blue Cross for him, his wife and his child He pays only $165/month.

Witziges Rätsel

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Oct 15, 2012, 4:28:02 PM10/15/12
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On 10/15/2012 4:07 PM, Joe Bruno wrote:
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> A friend of mine has insurance with Blue Cross for him, his wife and his child He pays only $165/month.
>
>
Does he often feel lonesome?

Joe Bruno

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Oct 15, 2012, 4:31:08 PM10/15/12
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Doubt it. He has lots of friends who throw lots of parties and they always invite him.

They are all members of the Serbian Orthodox Church.

Witziges Rätsel

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Oct 15, 2012, 4:39:21 PM10/15/12
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That explains it.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 15, 2012, 5:14:40 PM10/15/12
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On Monday, October 15, 2012 1:39:22 PM UTC-7, Witziges Rätsel wrote:
> On 10/15/2012 4:31 PM, Joe Bruno wrote:
>
> > On Monday, October 15, 2012 1:28:03 PM UTC-7, Witziges R�tsel wrote:
>
> >> On 10/15/2012 4:07 PM, Joe Bruno wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>> A friend of mine has insurance with Blue Cross for him, his wife and his child He pays only $165/month.
>
> >>
>
> >> Does he often feel lonesome?
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> >
>
> > Doubt it. He has lots of friends who throw lots of parties and they always invite him.
>
> > They are all members of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
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> >
>
> That explains it.

Does it also explain Black Holes and curved space?

I am a Jew now. If I ever decided to become a Christian, it would be with the Russian or Serbian Orthodox Church.

Did you know that the ROC was the first Christian church to publicly
condemn anti-semitism and they did it way back in the 16th century?

Davej

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Oct 15, 2012, 8:19:52 PM10/15/12
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On Oct 15, 3:07 pm, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
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> A friend of mine has insurance with Blue Cross for him, his wife and his
> child He pays only $165/month.

Yeah, and he's 26 years old. You really are a moron.

Syd M.

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Oct 15, 2012, 9:52:48 PM10/15/12
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On Oct 15, 4:07 pm, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> Obamacare is unnecessary
>

No.

Syd M.

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Oct 15, 2012, 9:53:44 PM10/15/12
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Nah. He's just buying into the lies of the rightards.

Doc Smartass

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Oct 24, 2012, 11:10:02 PM10/24/12
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Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote in news:54fc4e72-6af6-4fdd-aff2-
915bcf...@googlegroups.com:

> Subject: Obamacare is Unnecessary

...to people who can afford to pay for their own medical.

You gonna come help me pay my medical bills, asshole?

--
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Kooks! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
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Republicans are to Patriotism what Pimps are to Feminism.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 25, 2012, 12:52:53 AM10/25/12
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On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:10:02 PM UTC-7, Doc Smartass wrote:
> Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote in news:54fc4e72-6af6-4fdd-aff2-
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> 915bcf...@googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > Subject: Obamacare is Unnecessary
>
>
>
> ...to people who can afford to pay for their own medical.
>
>
>
> You gonna come help me pay my medical bills, asshole?

A friend of mine has a wife and an 18 month old child.
He has Blue Cross medical which takes care of all three for 165 bucks a month.

You're just a whining freeloader who can't handle his own responsibilities.

I served 6 years in the US Navy. Now,as a fringe benefit, the VA
takes care of all my medical stuff and I pay no premiums.

Too late and too bad. You should have joined up when you could.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 25, 2012, 12:57:50 AM10/25/12
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Well, it's certainly more useful than you are.
That isn't very hard to do.

I suspect you'll change your tune when you file your tax return for 2014 and realize how much more in taxes you pay for Obummer's plan.And you gotta pay for it even if you never use it.

Doc Smartass

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Oct 25, 2012, 2:16:38 AM10/25/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:e6c5ff29-863d-47e7...@googlegroups.com:

> On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:10:02 PM UTC-7, Doc Smartass wrote:
>> Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote in news:54fc4e72-6af6-4fdd-aff2-
>>
>> 915bcf...@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Subject: Obamacare is Unnecessary
>>
>>
>>
>> ...to people who can afford to pay for their own medical.
>>
>>
>>
>> You gonna come help me pay my medical bills, asshole?
>
> A friend of mine has a wife and an 18 month old child.
> He has Blue Cross medical which takes care of all three for 165 bucks
> a month.
>
> You're just a whining freeloader who can't handle his own
> responsibilities.

Oh, really?

Your "fuck you, I got mine" attitude is a perfect example of why
conservative scum like you should drop the fuck dead. You're an
unnecessary burden on the rest of us.

No civilized society flourishes without taking care of its own, including
people who can't afford medical coverage. Small price to pay.

> I served 6 years in the US Navy. Now,as a fringe benefit, the VA
> takes care of all my medical stuff and I pay no premiums.
>
> Too late and too bad. You should have joined up when you could.

If military service is all I needed to "earn" it, then I've earned it,
you shit-swabbing fuckwit.

The rest of us taxpayers are paying for your medical coverage.

You're welcome, asshole.

Mitchell Holman

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Oct 25, 2012, 8:18:30 AM10/25/12
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Doc Smartass <Fortbr...@yahoobrick.com> wrote in
news:XnsA0F7D0E022C...@216.196.121.131:

> Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:e6c5ff29-863d-47e7...@googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:10:02 PM UTC-7, Doc Smartass wrote:
>>> Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote in news:54fc4e72-6af6-4fdd-aff2-
>>>
>>> 915bcf...@googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Subject: Obamacare is Unnecessary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...to people who can afford to pay for their own medical.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You gonna come help me pay my medical bills, asshole?
>>
>> A friend of mine has a wife and an 18 month old child.
>> He has Blue Cross medical which takes care of all three for 165 bucks
>> a month.
>>
>> You're just a whining freeloader who can't handle his own
>> responsibilities.
>
> Oh, really?
>
> Your "fuck you, I got mine" attitude is a perfect example of why
> conservative scum like you should drop the fuck dead. You're an
> unnecessary burden on the rest of us.


I would love to be around when one of the
smug assholes gets driven into bankruptcy by
medical bills.






Medical Bills Cause Most Bankruptcies
New York Times

Nearly two out of three bankruptcies stem from
medical bills, and even people with health
insurance face financial disaster if they
experience a serious illness, a new study shows.

"The U.S. health care financing system is broken,
and not only for the poor and uninsured," the
study authors wrote. "Middle-class families
frequently collapse under the strain of a health
care system that treats physical wounds, but often
inflicts fiscal ones."


Among families who were bankrupted by illness, those
with private insurance reported average medical bills
of $17,749 compared to those who were uninsured, who
faced an average of $26,971 in medical costs. Those
who had health insurance but lost it in the course
of their illness reported average medical bills of
$22,568.

Hospital costs accounted for about half the expenses
(48 percent), followed by prescription drugs
(18.6 percent), doctor’s bills (15.1 percent) and
insurance premiums (4.1 percent). Medical equipment
and nursing home care rounded out the list.

http://tinyurl.com/pm79ol

Mitchell Holman

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Oct 25, 2012, 8:20:45 AM10/25/12
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> On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:10:02 PM UTC-7, Doc Smartass wrote:
>> Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote in news:54fc4e72-6af6-4fdd-aff2-
>>
>> 915bcf...@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Subject: Obamacare is Unnecessary
>>
>>
>>
>> ...to people who can afford to pay for their own medical.
>>
>>
>>
>> You gonna come help me pay my medical bills, asshole?
>
> A friend of mine has a wife and an 18 month old child.
> He has Blue Cross medical which takes care of all three for 165 bucks
> a month.
>


He has Blue Cross - until Blue Cross
dumps him the first time he needs it.




Blue Cross praised employees who dropped sick policyholders
LA Times

"Blue Cross of California encouraged employees through
performance evaluations to cancel the health insurance
policies of individuals with expensive illnesses, Rep.
Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) charged at the start of a
congressional hearing today on the controversial practice
known as rescission."

"WellPoint's Blue Cross of California subsidiary and
two other insurers saved more than $300 million in
medical claims by canceling more than 20,000 sick
policyholders over a five-year period, the House
committee said. When times are good, the insurance
company is happy to sign you up and take your money
in the form of premiums," Stupak said. "But when
times are bad, and you are afflicted with cancer or
some other life-threatening disease, it is supposed
to honor its commitments and stand by you in your
time of need,instead, some insurance companies use
a technicality to justify breaking its promise, at
a time when most patients are too weak to fight back."

An investigation by the House Subcommittee on Oversight
and Investigations showed that health insurers WellPoint
Inc., UnitedHealth Group and Assurant Inc. canceled the
coverage of more than 20,000 people, allowing the companies
to avoid paying more than $300 million in medical claims
over a five-year period.

It also found that policyholders with breast cancer,
lymphoma and more than 1,000 other conditions were
targeted for rescission and that employees were praised
in performance reviews for terminating the policies of
customers with expensive illnesses.

"No one can defend, and I certainly cannot defend,
the practice of canceling coverage after the fact,"
said Rep. Michael C. Burgess (R-Tex.), a member of
the committee. "There is no acceptable minimum to
denying coverage after the fact."

http://tinyurl.com/nmzvjk

Mike Painter

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Oct 25, 2012, 10:20:26 PM10/25/12
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:52:53 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
<atan...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>A friend of mine has a wife and an 18 month old child.
>He has Blue Cross medical which takes care of all three for 165 bucks a month.

And how much does his employer pay?
>
>You're just a whining freeloader who can't handle his own responsibilities.
>
>I served 6 years in the US Navy. Now,as a fringe benefit, the VA
>takes care of all my medical stuff and I pay no premiums.


So free medical care is OK for you but not for the people who paid the
taxes so you could be in the Navy.

Why don't all veterans have such benefits?
--
"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." ~ Robert Pirsig

Joe Bruno

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Oct 25, 2012, 11:06:24 PM10/25/12
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In the Girl Scouts?????????????The Navy wouldn't sign your worthless ass on as ballast.They don't accept malcontents.You'd last about 10 minutes in my division before I sent you messcooking, which is the first step on the road
to an administrative discharge.
>
>
>
> The rest of us taxpayers are paying for your medical coverage.
>
>
>
> You're welcome, asshole.

It ain't a gift. It's a fringe benefit I earned with six years of service.
You had nothing to do with it.
>
>
>
> --
>

Joe Bruno

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Oct 25, 2012, 11:13:31 PM10/25/12
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On Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:20:42 PM UTC-7, Mike Painter wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:52:53 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
>
> <atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> >A friend of mine has a wife and an 18 month old child.
>
> >He has Blue Cross medical which takes care of all three for 165 bucks a month.
>
>
>
> And how much does his employer pay?

He is self-employed and runs a store.
>
> >
>
> >You're just a whining freeloader who can't handle his own responsibilities.
>
> >
>
> >I served 6 years in the US Navy. Now,as a fringe benefit, the VA
>
> >takes care of all my medical stuff and I pay no premiums.
>
>
>
>
>
> So free medical care is OK for you but not for the people who paid the
>
> taxes so you could be in the Navy.

Idiot. It's a fringe benefit I earned with my service.It's not a freebie.
DAMN, YOU ARE STUPID.
>
>
>
> Why don't all veterans have such benefits?

Anyone with 2 years active duty is eligible.Some are stupid like you and
don't know about it or don't take advantage of it.
>
> --
>

Mike Painter

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Oct 27, 2012, 2:17:36 PM10/27/12
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:07:44 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net>
wrote:
So you claim. How much does his employer pay?

Mike Painter

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Oct 27, 2012, 2:31:44 PM10/27/12
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That is pure unadulterated BULLSHIT

I kept having people tell me this so I looked into it.
Two years and five days service at the start of the Vietnam era.

I have no service connected disabilities so don't get any service from
them.

?You were discharged or separated for medical reasons, early out, or
hardship
?You served in theater of combat operations within the past 5 years
?You were discharged from the military because of a disability (not
preexisting)
?You are a former Prisoner of War
?You received a Purple Heart Medal
?You receive VA pension or disability benefits
?You receive state Medicaid benefits
?Served in the Republic of Vietnam from January 9, 1962 to May 7, 1975
?Served in the Persian Gulf from August 2, 1990 to November 11, 1998

If the answer to all those questions is "No" then
"Based on the information you provided, your eligibility for VA health
care benefits may be based on special factors such as military history
factors or household income."

http://www.va.gov/healthBenefits/resources/eligibility_check.asp

Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 4:38:54 AM10/28/12
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The application does not say you are not qualified without those special factors. Either that, or you just can't read.

Moreover, since you lie about everything else, I'd bet you never served in the
US military.

My VA benefits are public info. Go ahead, asshole-ask them about me.


Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 4:51:03 AM10/28/12
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On Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:31:48 AM UTC-7, Mike Painter wrote:
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/benefits/a/vetbenefits_4.htm

Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 5:45:58 AM10/28/12
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I'm not scum like you. I don't lie,.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 5:57:37 AM10/28/12
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Logical fallacy.Just because Blue Cross did it before, they will do it again.
They covered his wife's pregnancy.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 6:00:30 AM10/28/12
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On Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:20:46 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
Funny> My dad had Blue Cross for 30 years. It covered his Diabetes and my Mom's
Cancer and never cancelled him out.

Mitchell Holman

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Oct 28, 2012, 8:45:01 AM10/28/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a1d25db7-ad51-4869...@googlegroups.com:


> My VA benefits are public info. Go ahead, asshole-ask them about me.
>
>


OK. Post for your real name, date of birth
and service number.



Mitchell Holman

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Oct 28, 2012, 8:49:01 AM10/28/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:4c19c45e-986a-4e8f...@googlegroups.com:
It is a fallacy to anticipate that someone
will repeat their acts?

Really?












Mitchell Holman

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Oct 28, 2012, 9:01:10 AM10/28/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:e3bdfc5c-acde-4702...@googlegroups.com:
Logical fallacy: Making a broad generalization
based solely on ones personal experience.





hypatiab7

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Oct 28, 2012, 11:48:41 AM10/28/12
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On Monday, October 15, 2012 4:07:45 PM UTC-4, Joe Bruno wrote:
> Obamacare is unnecessary

No, Joe/Art, it's you that is unnecessary.

Republican lies deleted

Christopher A. Lee

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Oct 28, 2012, 12:16:32 PM10/28/12
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What have we done to deserve these borderline (or worse) psychopaths
harassing us over something that is nothing whatsoever to do with the
exact equivalent of not believing in the Queen of the Fairies?

SkyEyes

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Oct 28, 2012, 12:26:00 PM10/28/12
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On Oct 28, 9:16 am, Christopher A. Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:48:41 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
>
> <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >On Monday, October 15, 2012 4:07:45 PM UTC-4, Joe Bruno wrote:
> >> Obamacare is unnecessary
>
> >No, Joe/Art, it's you that is unnecessary.
>
> >Republican lies deleted
>
> What have we done to deserve these borderline (or worse) psychopaths
> harassing us over something that is nothing whatsoever to do with the
> exact equivalent of not believing in the Queen of  the Fairies?

Why, we have the temerity of having a group devoted to non-belief, of
course. I've come to believe that admitting our lack of belief is
like waving a red flag in front of a bull. "Live and let live" is a
concept they simply *cannot* grok.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

Mike Painter

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Oct 28, 2012, 1:19:44 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:51:03 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
>http://usmilitary.about.com/od/benefits/a/vetbenefits_4.htm

You have accused me of not being able to read, yet the site you
reference supports what I claim.

,"Vocational Rehabilitation is a program which helps eligible disabled
veterans ..."

You DO NOT, as you claim, automatically qualify for VA benefits.

Anyone can call and find out what I say is true.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 1:23:37 PM10/28/12
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Lies noted.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 1:25:35 PM10/28/12
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No, it doesn't.
>
>
>

Mike Painter

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Oct 28, 2012, 1:26:00 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
<atan...@gmail.com> wrote:

There has been no mention of it but with a decent national medical
plan, the need for VA medical benefits would disappear for the vast
majority of vets.
The government would probably still maintain a few hospitals for those
who qualify under the "Johnny got his gun" clause.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun

Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 1:31:42 PM10/28/12
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WRONG.VA will not be affected by Obamacare.I want VA and will refuse Obamacare, just as I have refused Medicare.


Here is proof that you are lying:


VA Medical Care

The Veterans Health Administration (VHA) provides a broad spectrum of medical, surgical, and rehabilitative care to eligible veterans.

VA provides a Medical Benefits Package, a standard enhanced health benefits plan available to all enrolled veterans. This plan emphasizes preventive and primary care, and offers a full range of outpatient and inpatient services within VA health care system.

The character of discharge you received from the military can be a factor. It is not an issue if you received:

An honorable discharge
A general discharge
A discharge under honorable conditions
If you have a different character of discharge, you may still be eligible for care. As with other VA benefits programs, the VA will determine if your specific discharge was under conditions considered to be other than "dishonorable."

The length of your service may also matter. It depends on when you served. There’s no length of service requirement for:

Former enlisted persons who started active duty before September 8, 1980, or
Former officers who first entered active duty before October 17, 1981
All other veterans must have 24 months of continuous active duty military service or meet one of the exceptions described below.

You do not have to meet the 24 continuous months of active duty service requirement if you:

Were a reservist who was called to Active Duty and who completed the term for which you were called, and who was granted an other than dishonorable discharge, or

Were a National Guard member who was called to Active Duty by federal executive order, and who completed the term for which you were called, and who was granted an other than dishonorable discharge, or
Only request a benefit for or in connection with:
a service-connected condition or disability; or
treatment and/or counseling of sexual trauma that occurred while on active military service; or
treatment of conditions related to ionizing radiation; or
head or neck cancer related to nose or throat radium treatment while in the military.
Were discharged or released from active duty for a hardship , or
Were discharged with an “early out”; or
Were discharged or released from active duty for a disability that began in the service or got worse because of the service; or
Have been determined by VA to have compensable service-connected conditions; or
Were discharged for a reason other than disability, but you had a medical condition at the time that
Was disabling, and
In the opinion of a doctor, would have justified a discharge for disability (in this last case, the disability must be documented in service records)
However, even if you meet all of the above conditions, you may not be able to receive health care benefits from the VA. The number of veterans who can be enrolled in the health care program is determined by the amount of money Congress gives VA each year. Since funds are limited, VA set up priority groups to make sure that certain groups of veterans are able to be enrolled before others.

Christopher A. Lee

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Oct 28, 2012, 1:47:35 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:26:00 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
wrote:

>On Oct 28, 9:16 am, Christopher A. Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:48:41 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
>>
>> <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >On Monday, October 15, 2012 4:07:45 PM UTC-4, Joe Bruno wrote:
>> >> Obamacare is unnecessary
>>
>> >No, Joe/Art, it's you that is unnecessary.
>>
>> >Republican lies deleted
>>
>> What have we done to deserve these borderline (or worse) psychopaths
>> harassing us over something that is nothing whatsoever to do with the
>> exact equivalent of not believing in the Queen of  the Fairies?
>
>Why, we have the temerity of having a group devoted to non-belief, of
>course. I've come to believe that admitting our lack of belief is
>like waving a red flag in front of a bull. "Live and let live" is a
>concept they simply *cannot* grok.

It's not even devoted to non-belief - it was set up by atheists for
atheists to discuss our own issues, of which there are plenty due to
living in a predominantly theist society.

Christopher A. Lee

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Oct 28, 2012, 1:54:08 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 10:26:00 -0700, Mike Painter
<mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
><atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>There has been no mention of it but with a decent national medical
>plan, the need for VA medical benefits would disappear for the vast
>majority of vets.
>The government would probably still maintain a few hospitals for those
>who qualify under the "Johnny got his gun" clause.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun

Heck, under a decent national medical plan, one of the major costs of
doing business would disappear.

Perhaps if General Motors hadn't had to pay medical insurance for
their workforce, they might not even have needed the bailout.

Other companies avoid it by restricting the hours worked by their
minimum wage workers so they don't get the benefits full time staff
do.

Like W*lm*rt.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 1:57:48 PM10/28/12
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:47:35 AM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:26:00 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Oct 28, 9:16�am, Christopher A. Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net>
>
> >wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:48:41 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
>
> >>
>
> >> <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> >On Monday, October 15, 2012 4:07:45 PM UTC-4, Joe Bruno wrote:
>
> >> >> Obamacare is unnecessary
>
> >>
>
> >> >No, Joe/Art, it's you that is unnecessary.
>
> >>
>
> >> >Republican lies deleted
>
> >>
>
> >> What have we done to deserve these borderline (or worse) psychopaths
>
> >> harassing us over something that is nothing whatsoever to do with the
>
> >> exact equivalent of not believing in the Queen of �the Fairies?
>
> >
>
> >Why, we have the temerity of having a group devoted to non-belief, of
>
> >course. I've come to believe that admitting our lack of belief is
>
> >like waving a red flag in front of a bull. "Live and let live" is a
>
> >concept they simply *cannot* grok.
>
>
>
> It's not even devoted to non-belief - it was set up by atheists for
>
> atheists to discuss our own issues, of which there are plenty due to
>
> living in a predominantly theist society.

Lies noted.LOL

Mitchell Holman

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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:26:04 AM UTC-7, Mike Painter wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
>>
>> <atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> There has been no mention of it but with a decent national medical
>>
>> plan, the need for VA medical benefits would disappear for the vast
>>
>> majority of vets.
>>
>> The government would probably still maintain a few hospitals for
>> those
>>
>> who qualify under the "Johnny got his gun" clause.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun
>>
>> --
>>
>> "When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When
>> many
> people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." ~ Robert Pirsig
>
> WRONG.VA will not be affected by Obamacare.I want VA and will refuse
> Obamacare, just as I have refused Medicare.
>


So you are for government-provided health
care while you against government-provided
health care.

How very Republican of you...........






GOP frosh: Where's my health care?
11/15/10

A conservative Maryland physician elected to Congress on
an anti-Obamacare platform surprised fellow freshmen at
a Monday orientation session by demanding to know why his
government-subsidized health care plan takes a month to
kick in.

Republican Andy Harris, an anesthesiologist who defeated
freshman Democrat Frank Kratovil on Maryland's Eastern
Shore, reacted incredulously when informed that federal
law mandated that his government-subsidized health care
policy would take effect on Feb. 1 - 28 days after his
Jan. 3rd swearing-in.

"Harris asked if he could purchase insurance from the
government to cover the gap," added the aide, who was
struck by the similarity to Harris's request and the
public option he denounced as a gateway to socialized
medicine.


http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/45181.html#ixzz1ryjNY5On





Mike Painter

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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 10:31:42 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
You keep posting information that supports my claim while you deny it
at the same time.

Read the last three lines of what you wrote.

Anyone can call the 800 number and find out for yourself under what
conditions a person *may* qualify.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 3:08:10 PM10/28/12
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:34:54 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
>
> news:8047aa75-cdba-4e74...@googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:26:04 AM UTC-7, Mike Painter wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
>
> >>
>
> >> <atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> There has been no mention of it but with a decent national medical
>
> >>
>
> >> plan, the need for VA medical benefits would disappear for the vast
>
> >>
>
> >> majority of vets.
>
> >>
>
> >> The government would probably still maintain a few hospitals for
>
> >> those
>
> >>
>
> >> who qualify under the "Johnny got his gun" clause.
>
> >>
>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun
>
> >>
>
> >> --
>
> >>
>
> >> "When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When
>
> >> many
>
> > people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." ~ Robert Pirsig
>
> >
>
> > WRONG.VA will not be affected by Obamacare.I want VA and will refuse
>
> > Obamacare, just as I have refused Medicare.
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> So you are for government-provided health
>
> care while you against government-provided
>
> health care.


>
>
>
> How very Republican of you...........

Actually, I want what I served 6 years to earn.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Mitchell Holman

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Oct 28, 2012, 3:25:28 PM10/28/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in news:41681a94-27f1-4639-b736-
ce903d...@googlegroups.com:
So you agree you are entitled to your government
health care. Doesn't that make it an "entitlement"?





Don Kresch

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Oct 28, 2012, 4:36:08 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 10:54:08 -0700, Christopher A. Lee
<chrisl...@comcast.net> scrawled in blood:

>On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 10:26:00 -0700, Mike Painter
><mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
>><atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>There has been no mention of it but with a decent national medical
>>plan, the need for VA medical benefits would disappear for the vast
>>majority of vets.
>>The government would probably still maintain a few hospitals for those
>>who qualify under the "Johnny got his gun" clause.
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun
>
>Heck, under a decent national medical plan, one of the major costs of
>doing business would disappear.

No, it would just be moved to another area.


Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.

Mike Painter

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Oct 28, 2012, 6:10:16 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:36:08 -0500, Don Kresch
<spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:

>
>>Heck, under a decent national medical plan, one of the major costs of
>>doing business would disappear.
>
> No, it would just be moved to another area.

Only in your world.

The local VA clinic would not be needed, the buildings could be turned
to other uses and the employees move to jobs where instead of serving
a small percentage of people, they could serve a much larger group.

hypatiab7

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Oct 28, 2012, 6:19:36 PM10/28/12
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> >> coverage of more than 20,000 people, allowing the companies
> >> to avoid paying more than $300 million in medical claims
> >> over a five-year period.
>
> >> It also found that policyholders with breast cancer,
> >> lymphoma and more than 1,000 other conditions were
> >> targeted for rescission and that employees were praised
> >> in performance reviews for terminating the policies of
> >> customers with expensive illnesses.
>
> >> "No one can defend, and I certainly cannot defend,
> >> the practice of canceling coverage after the fact,"
> >> said Rep. Michael C. Burgess (R-Tex.), a member of
> >> the committee. "There is no acceptable minimum to
> >> denying coverage after the fact."
> >> http://tinyurl.com/nmzvjk

>
> > Funny> My dad had Blue Cross for 30 years. It covered his Diabetes and
> > my Mom's Cancer and never cancelled him out.
>
> Logical fallacy: Making a broad generalization
> based solely on ones personal experience.

Insurance companies weren't pulling this dangerous nonsense until
the Tea Party Republicans were elected.

Don Kresch

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Oct 28, 2012, 6:34:12 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:10:16 -0700, Mike Painter
<mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> scrawled in blood:

>On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:36:08 -0500, Don Kresch
><spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>>Heck, under a decent national medical plan, one of the major costs of
>>>doing business would disappear.
>>
>> No, it would just be moved to another area.
>
>Only in

reality, I know.

>
>The local VA clinic would

be needed, since it's part of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, which
would manage the NATIONAL MEDICAL PLAN.

Mitchell Holman

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hypatiab7 <hypa...@comcast.net> wrote in news:27244100-eed4-48c8-9f1c-
a63936...@googlegroups.com:
And the Citizen United ruling legalized
the corporate takeover of government.





Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 9:42:45 PM10/28/12
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:10:57 PM UTC-7, Mike Painter wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:36:08 -0500, Don Kresch
>
> <spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> >>Heck, under a decent national medical plan, one of the major costs of
>
> >>doing business would disappear.
>
> >
>
> > No, it would just be moved to another area.
>
>
>
> Only in your world.
>
>
>
> The local VA clinic would not be needed, the buildings could be turned
>
> to other uses and the employees move to jobs where instead of serving
>
> a small percentage of people, they could serve a much larger group.
>
> --
>
VA benefits are compensation for the lower salaries the military gets for
the same work done in civilian life.Eliminate that benefit and enlistments
will drop to nothing.You really don't know what the fuck is going on, do you?

Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 9:50:02 PM10/28/12
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:34:54 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
>
> news:8047aa75-cdba-4e74...@googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:26:04 AM UTC-7, Mike Painter wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
>
> >>
>
> >> <atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> There has been no mention of it but with a decent national medical
>
> >>
>
> >> plan, the need for VA medical benefits would disappear for the vast
>
> >>
>
> >> majority of vets.
>
> >>
>
> >> The government would probably still maintain a few hospitals for
>
> >> those
>
> >>
>
> >> who qualify under the "Johnny got his gun" clause.
>
> >>
>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun
>
> >>
>
> >> --
>
> >>
>
> >> "When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When
>
> >> many
>
> > people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." ~ Robert Pirsig
>
> >
>
> > WRONG.VA will not be affected by Obamacare.I want VA and will refuse
>
> > Obamacare, just as I have refused Medicare.
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> So you are for government-provided health
>
> care while you against government-provided
>
> health care.


Listen, fool. The government does not "provide" health care. You pay for it
with your taxes. Can you grasp that?It is a necessary fringe benefit for the
military since their salaries are lower than comparable jobs in civilian life.

You just babble without knowing what is going on .The abysmal ignorance I see
on this NG is shocking. You fuckers know nothing about the military, religion,
or business, yet you babble on condemning all of it.

What a bunch of fools. No wonder the majority of Americans don't trust atheists.
>
>
>

Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 9:52:11 PM10/28/12
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:47:35 AM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:26:00 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Oct 28, 9:16�am, Christopher A. Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net>
>
> >wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:48:41 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
>
> >>
>
> >> <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> >On Monday, October 15, 2012 4:07:45 PM UTC-4, Joe Bruno wrote:
>
> >> >> Obamacare is unnecessary
>
> >>
>
> >> >No, Joe/Art, it's you that is unnecessary.
>
> >>
>
> >> >Republican lies deleted
>
> >>
>
> >> What have we done to deserve these borderline (or worse) psychopaths
>
> >> harassing us over something that is nothing whatsoever to do with the
>
> >> exact equivalent of not believing in the Queen of �the Fairies?
>
> >
>
> >Why, we have the temerity of having a group devoted to non-belief, of
>
> >course. I've come to believe that admitting our lack of belief is
>
> >like waving a red flag in front of a bull. "Live and let live" is a
>
> >concept they simply *cannot* grok.
>
>
>
> It's not even devoted to non-belief - it was set up by atheists for
>
> atheists to discuss our own issues, of which there are plenty due to
>
> living in a predominantly theist society.

Lies noted.

Mitchell Holman

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Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote in
news:XnsA0FA4EA00EEAC...@216.196.121.131:

> Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:a1d25db7-ad51-4869...@googlegroups.com:
>
>
>> My VA benefits are public info. Go ahead, asshole-ask them about me.
>>
>>
>
>
> OK. Post for your real name, date of birth
> and service number.
>


Well?




Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 9:54:56 PM10/28/12
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:54:09 AM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 10:26:00 -0700, Mike Painter
>
> <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
>
> ><atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >There has been no mention of it but with a decent national medical
>
> >plan, the need for VA medical benefits would disappear for the vast
>
> >majority of vets.
>
> >The government would probably still maintain a few hospitals for those
>
> >who qualify under the "Johnny got his gun" clause.
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun
>
>
>
> Heck, under a decent national medical plan, one of the major costs of
>
> doing business would disappear.


And the public would pick up the tab with increased income taxes, jackass.

Are you too stupid to grasp that?

Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 10:02:52 PM10/28/12
to
> 2
>
>
>
>12 /10/45
356343
name already posted. you idiot.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 28, 2012, 10:07:24 PM10/28/12
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:47:35 AM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:26:00 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Oct 28, 9:16�am, Christopher A. Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net>
>
> >wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:48:41 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
>
> >>
>
> >> <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >> >On Monday, October 15, 2012 4:07:45 PM UTC-4, Joe Bruno wrote:
>
> >> >> Obamacare is unnecessary
>
> >>
>
> >> >No, Joe/Art, it's you that is unnecessary.
>
> >>
>
> >> >Republican lies deleted
>
> >>
>
> >> What have we done to deserve these borderline (or worse) psychopaths
>
> >> harassing us over something that is nothing whatsoever to do with the
>
> >> exact equivalent of not believing in the Queen of �the Fairies?
>
> >
>
> >Why, we have the temerity of having a group devoted to non-belief, of
>
> >course. I've come to believe that admitting our lack of belief is
>
> >like waving a red flag in front of a bull. "Live and let live" is a
>
> >concept they simply *cannot* grok.
>
>
>
> It's not even devoted to non-belief - it was set up by atheists for
>
> atheists to discuss our own issues, of which there are plenty due to
>
> living in a predominantly theist society.

Go to the moderated atheist group, psycho. There, your atheist buddies can screen us out.

Mitchell Holman

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Oct 28, 2012, 10:48:04 PM10/28/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:30d2bf9a-94c7-4852...@googlegroups.com:
A "necessary fringe benefit"?

Like the government health care that Congressmen get?


>
> You just babble without knowing what is going on .The abysmal
> ignorance I see on this NG is shocking. You fuckers know nothing about
> the military, religion, or business, yet you babble on condemning all
> of it.
>
> What a bunch of fools. No wonder the majority of Americans don't trust
> atheists.


The majority of Americans are about to BE atheists.




Church-Goers Now a Minority in America
May 24, 2012

One measure of the decline of church strength and
authority is church membership and attendance. And
by that measure, US secularity is rising to surprising
heights.

In recent decades, many denominations have seen slow
declines in attendance and membership, declines
impossible to hide. Fairly honest reporting of that
data is necessary to prevent denominational leaders
from fooling themselves. Churches don't regard people
showing up just a few times a year as real church-goers,
and they search for ways to convert them into regular
members. Just keeping people in the pews is a full-time
job in itself for plenty of congregations.

The March 2012 Gallup poll on religious behavior in the
United States exposes how lots of people are avoiding
church. As Gallup reports, "32 percent of Americans are
nonreligious, based on their statement that religion is
not an important part of their daily life and that they
seldom or never attend religious services."

About a third of Americans now report that they seldom
or never go to a religious house of worship. That's a
huge number of people avoiding church-going. But keep in
mind, this poll does say that 68 percent of Americans
claim that they do occasionally attend services. How
valid is that figure? Actually, even fewer people are
real church-goers.

The churches' own membership lists reflect how at least
three-quarters of Americans aren't showing up to church
much at all. A bare majority of Americans are not connected
with any religious congregation, and an even larger majority
are hardly ever showing up in any house of worship. There's
plenty of other sorts of religious activities and spiritual
experiences to pursue, of course. Abandoning church is not
the same thing as leaving the religious life. All the same,
church-goers have become a minority in America.
http://tinyurl.com/bq2pd63




Mitchell Holman

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Oct 28, 2012, 10:48:40 PM10/28/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in news:83a8fdc1-db80-40df-affc-
96bb37...@googlegroups.com:
Not here.

Post it.

Now.





Mike Painter

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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:34:12 -0500, Don Kresch
<spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:10:16 -0700, Mike Painter
><mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> scrawled in blood:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:36:08 -0500, Don Kresch
>><spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>Heck, under a decent national medical plan, one of the major costs of
>>>>doing business would disappear.
>>>
>>> No, it would just be moved to another area.
>>
>>Only in
>
> reality, I know.
>
>>
>>The local VA clinic would
>
> be needed, since it's part of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, which
>would manage the NATIONAL MEDICAL PLAN.

Why would a special unit need to be set aside for a small percent of
the population, most of them with problems found in that general
population?

Mike Painter

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Oct 29, 2012, 2:34:33 AM10/29/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:42:45 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
<atan...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>VA benefits are compensation for the lower salaries the military gets for
>the same work done in civilian life.Eliminate that benefit and enlistments
>will drop to nothing.You really don't know what the fuck is going on, do you?

Yes, I do and I have documented it.
What you have posted to show you are right also supports what I said
about eligibility.
Anyone can go online or call an 800 number to show I am right.

Don Kresch

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Oct 29, 2012, 8:18:33 AM10/29/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:31:53 -0700, Mike Painter
<mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> scrawled in blood:

>On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:34:12 -0500, Don Kresch
><spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:10:16 -0700, Mike Painter
>><mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> scrawled in blood:
>>
>>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:36:08 -0500, Don Kresch
>>><spam...@spamcatch.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Heck, under a decent national medical plan, one of the major costs of
>>>>>doing business would disappear.
>>>>
>>>> No, it would just be moved to another area.
>>>
>>>Only in
>>
>> reality, I know.
>>
>>>
>>>The local VA clinic would
>>
>> be needed, since it's part of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, which
>>would manage the NATIONAL MEDICAL PLAN.
>
>Why would a special unit need to be set aside for a small percent of
>the population,

Government flunkies are a small percent of the population, yet
special agencies are set aside for them to work in.

Same thing, moron.

Mitchell Holman

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Oct 29, 2012, 8:27:57 AM10/29/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:e6f517e7-2ce2-44bf...@googlegroups.com:
So by your logic there were no enlistments prior to
the creation of the VA system?




Don Martin

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Oct 29, 2012, 9:02:29 AM10/29/12
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A 6-digit service number? He must have served before the
Spanish-American War.

--

aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
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Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/

Mitchell Holman

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Oct 29, 2012, 9:17:50 AM10/29/12
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Don Martin <drdon...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:54us88lf7ju1l418d...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:48:40 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in news:83a8fdc1-db80-40df-affc-
>>96bb37...@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:52:28 PM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote in
>>>>
>>>> news:XnsA0FA4EA00EEAC...@216.196.121.131:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>
>>>> > news:a1d25db7-ad51-4869...@googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >> My VA benefits are public info. Go ahead, asshole-ask them about
>>me.
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > OK. Post for your real name, date of birth
>>>>
>>>> > and service number.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> 2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>12 /10/45
>>> 356343
>>> name already posted. you idiot.
>>
>> Not here.
>>
>> Post it.
>>
>> Now.
>
> A 6-digit service number? He must have served before the
> Spanish-American War.


Or in a different country's navy.





Don Martin

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Oct 29, 2012, 10:06:14 AM10/29/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:17:50 -0500, Mitchell Holman
<nomailverizon.net> wrote:

>>>>> > OK. Post for your real name, date of birth
>>>>>
>>>>> > and service number.
>>>>>
>>>>>12 /10/45
>>>> 356343
>>>> name already posted. you idiot.
>>>
>>> Not here.
>>>
>>> Post it.
>>>
>>> Now.
>>
>> A 6-digit service number? He must have served before the
>> Spanish-American War.
>
>
> Or in a different country's navy.

Ho Chi Minh's Raiders of the Gulf of Tonkin? He's a good fit for a
fraudulent action.

Mike Painter

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Oct 29, 2012, 11:40:57 AM10/29/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:02:29 -0500, Don Martin
<drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>>>>12 /10/45
>>> 356343
>>> name already posted. you idiot.
>>
>> Not here.
>>
>> Post it.
>>
>> Now.
>
>A 6-digit service number? He must have served before the
>Spanish-American War.


That was my first thought but that's how the Navy did it.
Six digits for officers, 0 - 999999 and seven for enlisted.

Don Martin

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Oct 29, 2012, 12:12:31 PM10/29/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:40:57 -0700, Mike Painter
<mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:02:29 -0500, Don Martin
><drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>>>>12 /10/45
>>>> 356343
>>>> name already posted. you idiot.
>>>
>>> Not here.
>>>
>>> Post it.
>>>
>>> Now.
>>
>>A 6-digit service number? He must have served before the
>>Spanish-American War.
>
>
>That was my first thought but that's how the Navy did it.
>Six digits for officers, 0 - 999999 and seven for enlisted.

I have difficulty believing Farty had sufficient intelligence to
qualify as a swabbie, much less an officer, in the U.S. Navy. Somalian
Coast Guard, perhaps.

Mitchell Holman

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Oct 29, 2012, 6:48:22 PM10/29/12
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Don Martin <drdon...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:lr2t889g904k56gvm...@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:17:50 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>> > OK. Post for your real name, date of birth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > and service number.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>12 /10/45
>>>>> 356343
>>>>> name already posted. you idiot.
>>>>
>>>> Not here.
>>>>
>>>> Post it.
>>>>
>>>> Now.
>>>
>>> A 6-digit service number? He must have served before the
>>> Spanish-American War.
>>
>>
>> Or in a different country's navy.
>
> Ho Chi Minh's Raiders of the Gulf of Tonkin?


One of Lord Vader's Imperial troopships?






Joe Bruno

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:05:11 PM10/29/12
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Ask the others, dumbshit. They know it.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:08:01 PM10/29/12
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On Monday, October 29, 2012 9:16:01 AM UTC-7, Don Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:40:57 -0700, Mike Painter
>
> <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:02:29 -0500, Don Martin
>
> ><drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>12 /10/45
>
> >>>> 356343
>
> >>>> name already posted. you idiot.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Not here.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Post it.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Now.
>
> >>
>
> >>A 6-digit service number? He must have served before the
>
> >>Spanish-American War.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >That was my first thought but that's how the Navy did it.
>
> >Six digits for officers, 0 - 999999 and seven for enlisted.
>
>
>
> I have difficulty believing Farty had sufficient intelligence to
>
> qualify as a swabbie, much less an officer, in the U.S. Navy. Somalian
>
> Coast Guard, perhaps.

Afraid to ask the Navy, scumbag? Afraid to be exposed as a filthy lying jackass?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>

Joe Bruno

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:12:15 PM10/29/12
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On Monday, October 29, 2012 8:41:08 AM UTC-7, Mike Painter wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:02:29 -0500, Don Martin
>
> <drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> >>>>12 /10/45
>
> >>> 356343
>
> >>> name already posted. you idiot.
>
> >>
>
> >> Not here.
>
> >>
>
> >> Post it.
>
> >>
>
> >> Now.
>
> >
>
> >A 6-digit service number? He must have served before the
>
> >Spanish-American War.
>
>
>
>
>
> That was my first thought but that's how the Navy did it.
>
> Six digits for officers, 0 - 999999 and seven for enlisted.

WRONG AGAIN.


I entered the Navy in 1971 before they went to social security nos as IDs.
My enlisted number was 356343.Then in 1973, they switched to SSNs when I was in Ofiicers Candidate School.I'm not gonna give you filthy degenerates my soc sec no.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:14:44 PM10/29/12
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On Monday, October 29, 2012 7:10:01 AM UTC-7, Don Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:17:50 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>
> <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >>>>> > OK. Post for your real name, date of birth
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> > and service number.
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>12 /10/45
>
> >>>> 356343
>
> >>>> name already posted. you idiot.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Not here.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Post it.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Now.
>
> >>
>
> >> A 6-digit service number? He must have served before the
>
> >> Spanish-American War.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Or in a different country's navy.
>
>
>
> Ho Chi Minh's Raiders of the Gulf of Tonkin? He's a good fit for a
>
> fraudulent action.

Did you do your service as a latrine cleaner in the Girl Scouts, you ridiculous
fag?
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>

Joe Bruno

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:18:14 PM10/29/12
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Never said that.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:20:55 PM10/29/12
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:34:35 PM UTC-7, Mike Painter wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:42:45 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
>
> <atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >
>
> >VA benefits are compensation for the lower salaries the military gets for
>
> >the same work done in civilian life.Eliminate that benefit and enlistments
>
> >will drop to nothing.You really don't know what the fuck is going on, do you?
>
>
>
> Yes, I do and I have documented it.

HORSEFUCKY. You have distorted all the links.
>

Joe Bruno

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:25:29 PM10/29/12
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They are not underpaid, fool.
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
> > You just babble without knowing what is going on .The abysmal
>
> > ignorance I see on this NG is shocking. You fuckers know nothing about
>
> > the military, religion, or business, yet you babble on condemning all
>
> > of it.
>
> >
>
> > What a bunch of fools. No wonder the majority of Americans don't trust
>
> > atheists.
>
>
>
>
>
> The majority of Americans are about to BE atheists.

That's not what the article says.It says lots have stopped going to church.
That's not the same thing as denying that God exists.You can't stop lying, can you?

hypatiab7

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:29:43 PM10/29/12
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:47:35 PM UTC-4, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:26:00 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
> wrote:
> >On Oct 28, 9:16�am, Christopher A. Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net>
> >wrote:
> >> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:48:41 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
>> <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> >On Monday, October 15, 2012 4:07:45 PM UTC-4, Joe Bruno wrote:
>
> >> >> Obamacare is unnecessary
>
> >> >No, Joe/Art, it's you that is unnecessary.

> >> >Republican lies deleted
>
> >> What have we done to deserve these borderline (or worse) psychopaths
> >> harassing us over something that is nothing whatsoever to do with the
> >> exact equivalent of not believing in the Queen of �the Fairies?
>
> >Why, we have the temerity of having a group devoted to non-belief, of
> >course. I've come to believe that admitting our lack of belief is
> >like waving a red flag in front of a bull. "Live and let live" is a
> >concept they simply *cannot* grok.
>
> It's not even devoted to non-belief - it was set up by atheists for
> atheists to discuss our own issues, of which there are plenty due to
> living in a predominantly theist society.

Joe/Art doesn't care. He knows that he's an invader and troll and
probably is lying about being Jewish but he doesn't care. He doesn't
seem to realize that he's also a sociopath. Maybe he doesn't care
about that, either. Maybe he's trying to kill two birds with one stone
by insulting atheists and making Jews look bad.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:39:32 PM10/29/12
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Taking your obscene flights of fantasy seriously is one thing I don't do.
You are a flaming nutcase and an obsessive liar.
Nobody with any common sense would take anything you say seriously.

hypatiab7

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:50:39 PM10/29/12
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On Monday, October 29, 2012 7:25:29 PM UTC-4, Joe Bruno wrote:
> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:48:04 PM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > news:30d2bf9a-94c7-4852...@googlegroups.com:
> > > On Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:34:54 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > >> Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > >> news:8047aa75-cdba-4e74...@googlegroups.com:
> > >> > On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:26:04 AM UTC-7, Mike Painter wrote:
> > >> >> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
> > >> >> <atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> There has been no mention of it but with a decent national medical
>
> > >> >> plan, the need for VA medical benefits would disappear for the
> > >> >> vast majority of vets.
>
> > >> >> The government would probably still maintain a few hospitals for
> > >> >> those who qualify under the "Johnny got his gun" clause.
>
> > >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun
>
> > >> > WRONG.VA will not be affected by Obamacare.I want VA and will
> > >> > refuse Obamacare, just as I have refused Medicare.
>
> > >> So you are for government-provided health care while you against government-provided health care.
>
> > > Listen, fool. The government does not "provide" health care. You pay
> > > for it with your taxes. Can you grasp that?It is a necessary fringe
> > > benefit for the military since their salaries are lower than
> > > comparable jobs in civilian life.
>
> > A "necessary fringe benefit"?
>
> > Like the government health care that Congressmen get?
>
> They are not underpaid, fool.

Actually many Congressweasels are overpaid and get medical benefits
they don't deserve, since so many of them don't want anyone else to
have the same benefits they get.

hypatiab7

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:54:43 PM10/29/12
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:45:58 AM UTC-4, Joe Bruno wrote:
> On Monday, October 15, 2012 6:53:44 PM UTC-7, Syd M. wrote:
> > On Oct 15, 8:19 pm, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Oct 15, 3:07 pm, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > A friend of mine has insurance with Blue Cross for him, his wife and his
>
> > > > child He pays only $165/month.
>
> > > Yeah, and he's 26 years old. You really are a moron.
>
> > Nah. He's just buying into the lies of the rightards.
>
> I'm not scum like you. I don't lie,.

You lie all the time, Joe/Art. Lying is your business.

Joe Bruno

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:58:44 PM10/29/12
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EVIDENCE???????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Saying that without evidence makes YOU the liar,jackass.Are you too stupid to
figure that out?ROTFL.




Mitchell Holman

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Oct 29, 2012, 9:45:24 PM10/29/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in news:291d42be-d5e3-4456-b336-
5742cb...@googlegroups.com:

> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:48:41 PM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in news:83a8fdc1-db80-40df-affc-
>>
>> 96bb37...@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> >> My VA benefits are public info. Go ahead, asshole-ask them about
>>
>> me.
>>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > OK. Post for your real name, date of birth
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> > and service number.
>>
>> >
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>12 /10/45
>>
>> > 356343
>>
>> > name already posted. you idiot.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not here.
>>
>>
>>
>> Post it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now.
>
> Ask the others, dumbshit. They know it.
>


"Joe" invites us to verify his background
but won't even tell us what his real NAME is.

Amazing...............








Mitchell Holman

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Oct 29, 2012, 9:47:20 PM10/29/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5502013b-8cdb-4965...@googlegroups.com:

> On Monday, October 29, 2012 8:41:08 AM UTC-7, Mike Painter wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:02:29 -0500, Don Martin
>>
>> <drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>> >>>>12 /10/45
>>
>> >>> 356343
>>
>> >>> name already posted. you idiot.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Not here.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Post it.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> Now.
>>
>> >
>>
>> >A 6-digit service number? He must have served before the
>>
>> >Spanish-American War.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> That was my first thought but that's how the Navy did it.
>>
>> Six digits for officers, 0 - 999999 and seven for enlisted.
>
> WRONG AGAIN.
>
>
> I entered the Navy in 1971 before they went to social security nos as
> IDs. My enlisted number was 356343.Then in 1973, they switched to SSNs
> when I was in Ofiicers Candidate School.I'm not gonna give you filthy
> degenerates my soc sec no.


So tell us what your real name is.




Mitchell Holman

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Oct 29, 2012, 9:52:40 PM10/29/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:aeec0211-d36a-40fd...@googlegroups.com:
Like the "evidence" you refuse to post
that you practiced law?

LOL!


"I also practiced criminal law as a prosecutor in the
Navy for 4 years."
-- Art Tandy (Joe Bruno), July 22, 2011


Joe Bruno

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Oct 29, 2012, 10:52:46 PM10/29/12
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Listen you filthy little fruitcake. I don't take fucking orders from you.

Mike Painter

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Oct 30, 2012, 12:35:12 AM10/30/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:20:55 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
<atan...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:34:35 PM UTC-7, Mike Painter wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:42:45 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
>>
>> <atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>> >VA benefits are compensation for the lower salaries the military gets for
>>
>> >the same work done in civilian life.Eliminate that benefit and enlistments
>>
>> >will drop to nothing.You really don't know what the fuck is going on, do you?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, I do and I have documented it.
>
>HORSEFUCKY. You have distorted all the links.


No, I just fixed it so you would see distorted links, the rest of the
world had those links hidden by me so no one could find out you were
right.

Now that's HORSEFUCKY.

Mike Painter

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Oct 30, 2012, 12:37:07 AM10/30/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:58:44 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
<atan...@gmail.com> wrote:


>>
>> > I'm not scum like you. I don't lie,.
>>
>>
>>
>> You lie all the time, Joe/Art. Lying is your business.
>
>EVIDENCE???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>
>Saying that without evidence makes YOU the liar,jackass.Are you too stupid to
>figure that out?ROTFL.
>

Anyone can compare your claims about VA benefits with my claims simply
by going on-line or making a phone call.
Anyone who does so will find out that you either lie, are stupid, or
can't admit error.
All three may be true.

Christopher A. Lee

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Oct 30, 2012, 12:45:13 AM10/30/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:37:07 -0700, Mike Painter
<mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:58:44 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
><atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>> > I'm not scum like you. I don't lie,.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You lie all the time, Joe/Art. Lying is your business.
>>
>>EVIDENCE???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>
>>Saying that without evidence makes YOU the liar,jackass.Are you too stupid to
>>figure that out?ROTFL.
>>
>
>Anyone can compare your claims about VA benefits with my claims simply
>by going on-line or making a phone call.
>Anyone who does so will find out that you either lie, are stupid, or
>can't admit error.
>All three may be true.

c/may/are/* *

Doc Smartass

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Nov 8, 2012, 7:56:00 AM11/8/12
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> Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:a1d25db7-ad51-4869...@googlegroups.com:
>
>
>> My VA benefits are public info. Go ahead, asshole-ask them about me.
>>
>>
>
>
> OK. Post for your real name, date of birth
> and service number.

His real name is Arthur Tandy.

www.zabasearch.com knows where he is, once you trace his IP. 0:)

--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling aa # 1939

Kooks! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
Books! http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
Everything Else! http://pareidolia-global.blogspot.com/

Republicans are to Patriotism what Pimps are to Feminism.

Doc Smartass

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Nov 8, 2012, 7:57:09 AM11/8/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:2db19aff-8d63-40a1...@googlegroups.com:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...meltdown.

Doc Smartass

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Nov 8, 2012, 7:58:39 AM11/8/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3703e67d-5bc8-491c-9f3b-
8573e2...@googlegroups.com:
buck-buck-buck-buuuuck.

Doc Smartass

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:01:28 AM11/8/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d8b96ac3-906b-440c...@googlegroups.com:

> On Monday, October 15, 2012 6:53:44 PM UTC-7, Syd M. wrote:
>> On Oct 15, 8:19 pm, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Oct 15, 3:07 pm, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > A friend of mine has insurance with Blue Cross for him, his wife
>> > > and
> his
>>
>> > > child He pays only $165/month.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Yeah, and he's 26 years old. You really are a moron.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nah. He's just buying into the lies of the rightards.
>
> I'm not scum like you. I don't lie,.

Oh, you're scum alright. And we've caught you in so many lies you could
have taken Romney's place in the campaign.

Doc Smartass

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:05:36 AM11/8/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:8047aa75-cdba-4e74...@googlegroups.com:

> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:26:04 AM UTC-7, Mike Painter wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
>>
>> <atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> There has been no mention of it but with a decent national medical
>>
>> plan, the need for VA medical benefits would disappear for the vast
>>
>> majority of vets.
>>
>> The government would probably still maintain a few hospitals for
>> those
>>
>> who qualify under the "Johnny got his gun" clause.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun
>>
>> --
>>
>> "When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When
>> many
> people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." ~ Robert Pirsig
>
> WRONG.VA will not be affected by Obamacare.I want VA and will refuse
> Obamacare, just as I have refused Medicare.

Fine. Leave it to people who need it. We don't mind at all, Failgunner
Joe.

Doc Smartass

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:06:38 AM11/8/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in news:41681a94-27f1-4639-b736-
ce903d...@googlegroups.com:

> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:34:54 AM UTC-7, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>
>> news:8047aa75-cdba-4e74...@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:26:04 AM UTC-7, Mike Painter wrote:
>>
>> >> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> <atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> There has been no mention of it but with a decent national medical
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> plan, the need for VA medical benefits would disappear for the vast
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> majority of vets.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> The government would probably still maintain a few hospitals for
>>
>> >> those
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> who qualify under the "Johnny got his gun" clause.
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> --
>>
>> >>
>>
>> >> "When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity.
When
>>
>> >> many
>>
>> > people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." ~ Robert
Pirsig
>>
>> >
>>
>> > WRONG.VA will not be affected by Obamacare.I want VA and will refuse
>>
>> > Obamacare, just as I have refused Medicare.
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> So you are for government-provided health
>>
>> care while you against government-provided
>>
>> health care.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> How very Republican of you...........
>
> Actually, I want what I served 6 years to earn.

...which is government-provided health care, siphon.

Doc Smartass

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:08:40 AM11/8/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:30d2bf9a-94c7-4852...@googlegroups.com:
> Listen, fool. The government does not "provide" health care.

Yes, it does. Medicare and Medicaid are government programs. Your VA care
is a government program.

By your own standards, you're a fucking leech, sucking on taxpayer money.

You're welcome. Asshole. :)

Doc Smartass

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:10:15 AM11/8/12
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Christopher A. Lee <chrisl...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:q0sq88hh2g6pu1j32...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 10:26:00 -0700, Mike Painter
> <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
>><atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>There has been no mention of it but with a decent national medical
>>plan, the need for VA medical benefits would disappear for the vast
>>majority of vets.
>>The government would probably still maintain a few hospitals for those
>>who qualify under the "Johnny got his gun" clause.
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun
>
> Heck, under a decent national medical plan, one of the major costs of
> doing business would disappear.
>
> Perhaps if General Motors hadn't had to pay medical insurance for
> their workforce, they might not even have needed the bailout.
>
> Other companies avoid it by restricting the hours worked by their
> minimum wage workers so they don't get the benefits full time staff
> do.
>
> Like W*lm*rt.

And CarQuest, O'Reilly Auto, AutoZone, RGIS...

Doc Smartass

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:12:55 AM11/8/12
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Joe Bruno <atan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:69923368-64a8-4aff...@googlegroups.com:

> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:54:09 AM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 10:26:00 -0700, Mike Painter
>>
>> <mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:45:58 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
>>
>> ><atan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> >There has been no mention of it but with a decent national medical
>>
>> >plan, the need for VA medical benefits would disappear for the vast
>>
>> >majority of vets.
>>
>> >The government would probably still maintain a few hospitals for
>> >those
>>
>> >who qualify under the "Johnny got his gun" clause.
>>
>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun
>>
>>
>>
>> Heck, under a decent national medical plan, one of the major costs of
>>
>> doing business would disappear.
>
>
> And the public would pick up the tab with increased income taxes,
> jackass.

...or we pay at least double to cover costs for people who can't afford
medical coverage.

I'm fine with paying less for universal coverage than paying more for
less coverage.

You don't want to pull your own weight, you should self-deport to
Somalia. No taxes, conservative government, the whole deal. Fucking
wingnut utopia!

Mitchell Holman

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Doc Smartass <Fortbr...@yahoobrick.com> wrote in
news:XnsA10548B3161A...@216.196.97.131:
Art/Joe brags about his patriotism as a veteran
but fails to mention he enlisted (1971) in a branch
guaranteed to keep him out of the Vietnam combat going
on at the time. Doubtless he would have jumped at a
National Guard posting if any had been open at the time.



"I do -- I do -- I do -- I do -- what any normal person
would do at that age. You call home. You call home to
mother and father and say, "I'd like to get into the
National Guard."
Senator Dan Quayle, 8/19/88, regarding his draft letter.






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