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Hersh Dershowitz
Feb 19, 2024, 11:53:53 PMFeb 19
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Trump’s Total Charges Could Result In More Than 700 Years In Prison
Alison Durkee
Forbes Staff
Aug 16, 2023,06:26am EDT
Updated Aug 22, 2023, 03:00pm EDT
Topline
Former President Donald Trump has been indicted on 91 federal and state
charges in total after being indicted for the fourth time Monday in Fulton
County, Georgia, facing a range of felony charges that all carry potential
prison sentences that add up to a potential maximum sentence of 717.5
years in prison, though Trump is highly unlikely to face that much time.
Donald Trump
Former President Donald Trump prepares to deliver remarks at a Nevada
Republican volunteer ... [+]Getty Images
Key Facts
Manhattan – 136 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with 34 counts of
falsifying business records in the first degree in his first indictment in
Manhattan, stemming from “hush money” payments made during his 2016
campaign, which as a class “E” felony under New York law carries a maximum
four-year prison sentence for each count if convicted.
Trump could face over 100 years in prison if he were convicted of every
charge in that case, but legal experts suggest it’s unlikely he’ll face
any prison time at all in this case as a first-time offender.
PROMOTED
Classified Documents – 450 Years Maximum: Trump faces 40 federal charges
after being indicted for bringing White House documents back to Mar-A-Lago
with him and allegedly trying to obstruct the Justice Department’s
investigation into them, including 32 counts of willful retention of
national security documents, six counts related to obstruction and two
counts for scheme to conceal and making false statements.
That could result in 450 years maximum imprisonment, based on the willful
retention charges each carrying up to 10 years in prison, the obstruction
charges carrying potential 20-year penalties and the false statement
charges carrying potentially five years each.
Federal Election Investigation – 55 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with
four felony counts as part of the Justice Department’s investigation into
his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, including conspiracy to defraud
the U.S., obstruction, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and
conspiracy against rights, a 19th century law that criminalizes when two
or more people “conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate” any
Americans “in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege”
they’re afforded under the Constitution or federal law.
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Those charges could result in more than 50 years in prison if Trump were
convicted of all counts, based on maximum sentences of five years for
conspiracy to defraud, 20 years for each obstruction charge and 10 years
for conspiracy against rights.
Fulton County – 76.5 Years Maximum: Trump was indicted on 13 state charges
in Fulton County for trying to overturn Georgia’s 2020 election—part of 41
total counts brought against 19 defendants—including charges for
racketeering (known as RICO charges), solicitation of violation of oath by
a public officer, conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer,
conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree, false statements and
writings, conspiracy to commit false statements and writings, filing false
documents and conspiracy to commit filing false documents.
Trump could spend more than 70 years in prison if he were convicted on all
counts, based on maximum sentences of 20 years for racketeering, three
years for solicitation (three counts), 2.5 years for conspiracy to
impersonate a public officer, 7.5 years for forgery conspiracy (two
counts), five years for false statements (two counts), 2.5 years for
conspiracy to commit false statements (two counts), 10 years for filing
false documents and five years for conspiracy to file false documents.
Contra
While all of the crimes Trump’s been indicted for do carry possible prison
sentences, most do not carry mandatory sentences if convicted and can also
potentially be punishable by a fine. Criminal solicitation and forgery in
Georgia are the only charges against Trump in which the statutes don’t
specify it can be punishable by a fine instead.
What We Don’t Know
What Trump’s actual prison sentences will be, if he’s convicted of any of
the crimes he’s been charged with. Trump is unlikely to receive maximum
prison sentences as a first-time offender, Politico notes, and even if
he’s convicted of multiple crimes, he might be ordered to serve out his
sentences concurrently, meaning he could serve sentences for multiple
counts simultaneously rather than one after the other. Trump could also be
helped out in the documents case by U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, the
judge overseeing the case who would sentence him if convicted, who Trump
appointed and has been deferential toward him in the past.
What To Watch For
Trump’s trial in Manhattan is scheduled to start on March 25, 2024,
followed by the documents case going to trial on May 20, 2024, though
those dates could be changed. No date has been set yet for Trump’s federal
indictment for trying to overturn the 2020 election, though prosecutors
have proposed a trial date of January 2. It’s also still unclear when the
Fulton County case will go to trial, and while District Attorney Fani
Willis suggested prosecutors want the trial to take place within the next
six months, that may be unlikely given the complex nature of the 19-
defendant case.
Chief Critic
Trump has strongly denied all of the charges against him in each
indictment, pleading not guilty to the first three sets of charges and
decrying the Fulton County indictment as a “witch hunt.” “These monsters,
all controlled and coordinated by the DOJ and Radical Left Lunatics, are
Criminalizing Political Speech, a total SHUTDOWN OF DEMOCRACY!” Trump
claimed on Truth Social Tuesday night. (Legal experts have disputed
Trump’s claim that his attempts to overturn the election were First
Amendment-protected speech.)
Surprising Fact
Trump being convicted and sentenced to prison would not in itself stop him
from serving as president if he were reelected in 2024—or from campaigning
for the job—though it would likely present some logistical challenges.
Legal experts cited by Politico said it’s likely any sentences from state
courts would likely be postponed until after his presidential term ends,
and while it’s less clear what would happen in the case of any federal
sentences, Trump could try to pardon himself from those charges. (It’s
still legally uncertain if he could do so.)
Key Background
Trump is the first sitting or former president to be indicted on felony
charges. His indictments were brought over the past several months
following years-long investigations by federal and local prosecutors, with
special counsel Jack Smith being appointed in November to oversee the
Justice Department’s two investigations into the former president. The
charges in Fulton County were brought Monday against 19 defendants,
alleging Trump was part of a broader criminal conspiracy to subvert the
election results. Polling suggests that Trump’s indictments have only
bolstered his standing in the Republican presidential primaries among his
GOP base, though it’s still unclear how his indictments—or by that point,
any convictions—could impact the ex-president in a general election.
Alison Durkee
Forbes Staff
Aug 16, 2023,06:26am EDT
Updated Aug 22, 2023, 03:00pm EDT
Topline
Former President Donald Trump has been indicted on 91 federal and state
charges in total after being indicted for the fourth time Monday in Fulton
County, Georgia, facing a range of felony charges that all carry potential
prison sentences that add up to a potential maximum sentence of 717.5
years in prison, though Trump is highly unlikely to face that much time.
Donald Trump
Former President Donald Trump prepares to deliver remarks at a Nevada
Republican volunteer ... [+]Getty Images
Key Facts
Manhattan – 136 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with 34 counts of
falsifying business records in the first degree in his first indictment in
Manhattan, stemming from “hush money” payments made during his 2016
campaign, which as a class “E” felony under New York law carries a maximum
four-year prison sentence for each count if convicted.
Trump could face over 100 years in prison if he were convicted of every
charge in that case, but legal experts suggest it’s unlikely he’ll face
any prison time at all in this case as a first-time offender.
PROMOTED
Classified Documents – 450 Years Maximum: Trump faces 40 federal charges
after being indicted for bringing White House documents back to Mar-A-Lago
with him and allegedly trying to obstruct the Justice Department’s
investigation into them, including 32 counts of willful retention of
national security documents, six counts related to obstruction and two
counts for scheme to conceal and making false statements.
That could result in 450 years maximum imprisonment, based on the willful
retention charges each carrying up to 10 years in prison, the obstruction
charges carrying potential 20-year penalties and the false statement
charges carrying potentially five years each.
Federal Election Investigation – 55 Years Maximum: Trump was charged with
four felony counts as part of the Justice Department’s investigation into
his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, including conspiracy to defraud
the U.S., obstruction, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and
conspiracy against rights, a 19th century law that criminalizes when two
or more people “conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate” any
Americans “in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege”
they’re afforded under the Constitution or federal law.
Forbes Daily: Get our best stories, exclusive reporting and essential
analysis of the day’s news in your inbox every weekday.
By signing up, you accept and agree to our Terms of Service (including the
class action waiver and arbitration provisions), and you acknowledge our
Privacy Statement.
Those charges could result in more than 50 years in prison if Trump were
convicted of all counts, based on maximum sentences of five years for
conspiracy to defraud, 20 years for each obstruction charge and 10 years
for conspiracy against rights.
Fulton County – 76.5 Years Maximum: Trump was indicted on 13 state charges
in Fulton County for trying to overturn Georgia’s 2020 election—part of 41
total counts brought against 19 defendants—including charges for
racketeering (known as RICO charges), solicitation of violation of oath by
a public officer, conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer,
conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree, false statements and
writings, conspiracy to commit false statements and writings, filing false
documents and conspiracy to commit filing false documents.
Trump could spend more than 70 years in prison if he were convicted on all
counts, based on maximum sentences of 20 years for racketeering, three
years for solicitation (three counts), 2.5 years for conspiracy to
impersonate a public officer, 7.5 years for forgery conspiracy (two
counts), five years for false statements (two counts), 2.5 years for
conspiracy to commit false statements (two counts), 10 years for filing
false documents and five years for conspiracy to file false documents.
Contra
While all of the crimes Trump’s been indicted for do carry possible prison
sentences, most do not carry mandatory sentences if convicted and can also
potentially be punishable by a fine. Criminal solicitation and forgery in
Georgia are the only charges against Trump in which the statutes don’t
specify it can be punishable by a fine instead.
What We Don’t Know
What Trump’s actual prison sentences will be, if he’s convicted of any of
the crimes he’s been charged with. Trump is unlikely to receive maximum
prison sentences as a first-time offender, Politico notes, and even if
he’s convicted of multiple crimes, he might be ordered to serve out his
sentences concurrently, meaning he could serve sentences for multiple
counts simultaneously rather than one after the other. Trump could also be
helped out in the documents case by U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, the
judge overseeing the case who would sentence him if convicted, who Trump
appointed and has been deferential toward him in the past.
What To Watch For
Trump’s trial in Manhattan is scheduled to start on March 25, 2024,
followed by the documents case going to trial on May 20, 2024, though
those dates could be changed. No date has been set yet for Trump’s federal
indictment for trying to overturn the 2020 election, though prosecutors
have proposed a trial date of January 2. It’s also still unclear when the
Fulton County case will go to trial, and while District Attorney Fani
Willis suggested prosecutors want the trial to take place within the next
six months, that may be unlikely given the complex nature of the 19-
defendant case.
Chief Critic
Trump has strongly denied all of the charges against him in each
indictment, pleading not guilty to the first three sets of charges and
decrying the Fulton County indictment as a “witch hunt.” “These monsters,
all controlled and coordinated by the DOJ and Radical Left Lunatics, are
Criminalizing Political Speech, a total SHUTDOWN OF DEMOCRACY!” Trump
claimed on Truth Social Tuesday night. (Legal experts have disputed
Trump’s claim that his attempts to overturn the election were First
Amendment-protected speech.)
Surprising Fact
Trump being convicted and sentenced to prison would not in itself stop him
from serving as president if he were reelected in 2024—or from campaigning
for the job—though it would likely present some logistical challenges.
Legal experts cited by Politico said it’s likely any sentences from state
courts would likely be postponed until after his presidential term ends,
and while it’s less clear what would happen in the case of any federal
sentences, Trump could try to pardon himself from those charges. (It’s
still legally uncertain if he could do so.)
Key Background
Trump is the first sitting or former president to be indicted on felony
charges. His indictments were brought over the past several months
following years-long investigations by federal and local prosecutors, with
special counsel Jack Smith being appointed in November to oversee the
Justice Department’s two investigations into the former president. The
charges in Fulton County were brought Monday against 19 defendants,
alleging Trump was part of a broader criminal conspiracy to subvert the
election results. Polling suggests that Trump’s indictments have only
bolstered his standing in the Republican presidential primaries among his
GOP base, though it’s still unclear how his indictments—or by that point,
any convictions—could impact the ex-president in a general election.
Dawn Flood
Feb 20, 2024, 11:23:45 PMFeb 20
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On 2/19/2024 10:53 PM, Hersh Dershowitz wrote:
> Trump’s Total Charges Could Result In More Than 700 Years In Prison
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> Alison Durkee
> Forbes Staff
> Aug 16, 2023,06:26am EDT
> Updated Aug 22, 2023, 03:00pm EDT
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> Trump’s Total Charges Could Result In More Than 700 Years In Prison
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> Alison Durkee
> Forbes Staff
> Aug 16, 2023,06:26am EDT
> Updated Aug 22, 2023, 03:00pm EDT
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> Trump is the first sitting or former president to be indicted on felony
Yeah, he's guilty, and everyone knows it! Question is, "Will the
Chewbacca defense" work:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_defense
While it drives Trump nuts to lose lots of his money, what is *really*
eating at him is not his wealth but having to be seen by the entire
World wearing a pair of handcuffs. His ego is SO huge, and the thought
of having his wrists locked in place, unable to free his hands no matter
how hard and/or often he tries, and especially, the public humiliation
that he will experience at the slightest perception of him trying
aimlessly to slip his hands out of handcuffs is too much for him to bear.
That's why Trump is fighting so hard to delay and delay and delay going
to trial, and why he is paying his attorneys tens of millions upon tens
of millions of dollars to try whatever legal trickery that they can come
up with to eventually obfuscate and mislead one or two potential jurors.
For Trump the thought of hearing the two rapid clicking sounds of each
ratchet locking itself into the pawl of each cuff followed by that
initial, helpless attempt to free his hands is just too much for him to
bear with his giant, almost cosmic, overinflated ego.
On a side note, the evidence shows that the deterrence to many crimes is
not long jail sentences and/or hefty fines but simply to have criminals
spend some time in handcuffs. For many wrongdoers, this "does the
trick" and they never reoffend again. Maybe if Trump would have gotten
arrested decades ago, spending a few hours with his hands locked behind
his back, maybe World history would have turned out differently??
Dawn
Skeeter
Feb 21, 2024, 9:34:34 AMFeb 21
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In article <ur3tsc$2uo21$1...@dont-email.me>, Dawn.Bel...@gmail.com
says...
He is still leading the polls.
says...
>
> On 2/19/2024 10:53 PM, Hersh Dershowitz wrote:
> > Trump?s Total Charges Could Result In More Than 700 Years In Prison
> On 2/19/2024 10:53 PM, Hersh Dershowitz wrote:
JWS
Feb 21, 2024, 9:45:21 AMFeb 21
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the Border Bill when it could easily be
passed otherwise. Don't you want your
border secured? Too bad. Fat Cheeto is
making you wait. That's 11 more months
of illegals coming across the border. But
you don't care about you own issue.
Skeeter
Feb 21, 2024, 10:03:08 AMFeb 21
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In article <42063d6a-25b4-4e30...@googlegroups.com>,
jld...@skybeam.com says...
You don't see what a money sham that bill is? All Joe has to do is
follow the law. No bill needed.
jld...@skybeam.com says...
follow the law. No bill needed.
Murph
Feb 21, 2024, 10:53:00 AMFeb 21
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>He is still leading the polls.
>
Who cares?
>He is still leading the polls.
>
Soon the only place tRUMP will be popular will be the prison shower.
%
Feb 21, 2024, 10:55:01 AMFeb 21
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%
Feb 21, 2024, 11:40:03 AMFeb 21
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Skeeter wrote:
> In article <17b5ebcc7ac4d6e5$176123$1113819
> $6cdd...@news.thecubenet.com>, pre...@yahoo.net says...
> lol
>
> In article <17b5ebcc7ac4d6e5$176123$1113819
> $6cdd...@news.thecubenet.com>, pre...@yahoo.net says...
>
JWS
Feb 21, 2024, 5:58:23 PMFeb 21
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On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 9:03:08 AM UTC-6, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <42063d6a-25b4-4e30...@googlegroups.com>,
> JWS says...
The Border Patrol and other authorities are
following the law through enforcement. That
is their job, not Joe's. The new bill they want
will change the law. It will make the law
stricter. This is how laws come about -- bills
passed by congress. ALL LAWS. This is the
major problem. You, idiots like you and your
Fat Cheeto do not understand how the
government even works.
Fat Cheeto is making you suffer another 11
months for his stupid pride. So shut up
about the border.
> In article <42063d6a-25b4-4e30...@googlegroups.com>,
> JWS says...
following the law through enforcement. That
is their job, not Joe's. The new bill they want
will change the law. It will make the law
stricter. This is how laws come about -- bills
passed by congress. ALL LAWS. This is the
major problem. You, idiots like you and your
Fat Cheeto do not understand how the
government even works.
Fat Cheeto is making you suffer another 11
months for his stupid pride. So shut up
about the border.
Skeeter
Feb 21, 2024, 6:18:35 PMFeb 21
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In article <661720f4-a489-4020...@googlegroups.com>,
jld...@skybeam.com says...
The 1000s a day crossing is Joes fault. Follow the law. You don't come
here the legal way you go back. It's that simple.
jld...@skybeam.com says...
here the legal way you go back. It's that simple.
Yap Honghor
Feb 21, 2024, 8:10:25 PMFeb 21
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Skeeter
Feb 22, 2024, 7:40:37 AMFeb 22
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In article <2ca978de-7c18-49a5...@googlegroups.com>,
hhya...@gmail.com says...
Way ahead in the polls. The real people want Trump.
hhya...@gmail.com says...
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