Message to Skypher3
GundamPilot
I know you're reading this Jennifer.
How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
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Yang
wrote:
>I know you're reading this Jennifer.
> How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
If you need somebody, call my name
If you want someone, you can do the same
If you want to keep something precious
You got to lock it up and throw away the key
If you want to hold onto your possession
Don't even think about me
If you love somebody, set them free
If it's a mirror you want, just look into my eyes
Or a whipping boy, someone to despise
Or a prisoner in the dark
Tied up in chains you just can't see
Or a beast in a gilded cage
That's all some people ever want to be
If you love somebody, set them free
You can't control an independent heart
Can't tear the one you love apart
Forever conditioned to believe that we can't live
We can't live here and be happy with less
So many riches, so many souls
Everything we see we want to possess
If you need somebody, call my name
If you want someone, you can do the same
If you want to keep something precious
You got to lock it up and throw away the key
If you want to hold onto your possession
Don't even think about me
If you love somebody, set them free
-Sting
Clayton Forno
"GundamPilot" <Gunda...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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>
> I know you're reading this Jennifer.
> How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
>
The freak is back!
I'm not Skypher's greatest fan....but give the girl a break. She doesn't
deserve this.
>
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Abner Mintz
> I know you're reading this Jennifer.
> How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
"She's not here anymore, creep."
"Why don't you go check yourself in a nice psychiatric
program and stop persecuting people who obviously want
nothing to do with you?"
dotcom dotcom
eac...@AYBABTUmail.com (Yang ) wrote:
GP seems to prefer the shorter version:
If you love something, set if free.
If it doesn't come back, hunt it down and kill it.
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stoney
On 19 May 2001 02:17:07 -0500, "GundamPilot" <Gunda...@127.0.0.1>, Message
ID: <3b061df3$1...@news.binaries.net> wrote in alt.atheism;
]>
]>I know you're reading this Jennifer.
]> How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
Control isn't love, Kevin. Go find yourself another victim; or better yet seek
professional help.
Stoney
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and
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Carl Kaufmann
>
> I know you're reading this Jennifer.
> How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
Gawd does it all the time, to everybody. She's just following his
example.
Then again maybe she just recognizes a nut-case when she sees one.
--
Carl the Data Pimp
"Statisticians do it with random deviates."
Bored With The Boring Again
>
>I know you're reading this Jennifer.
> How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
Piss off asshole. You're the reason she left alt.atheism.
Oh, PS. She went back to atheism and is now dating me.
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight | "The Truth against the World."
| -- Bardic Motto
Awarded title of "Defacto CLuM" by "kansan" 2001-05-12
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Remove god to respond.
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At one point in time, many of us actually had Jesus as
our personal lord and saviour. Unfortunately, we later
had to dismiss him for incompetence, gross negligence,
misconduct and consistent failure to show up for work.
John P. Boatwright
>
> On 19 May 2001 02:17:07 -0500, "GundamPilot" <Gunda...@127.0.0.1>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >I know you're reading this Jennifer.
> > How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
>
> Piss off asshole. You're the reason she left alt.atheism.
>
> Oh, PS. She went back to atheism and is now dating me.
You wish!
Gosh...
Jennifer is nice person, it's extremely unlikely that she'd
ever date you... and she's NOT an atheist.
Why do atheists LIE so much?
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://www.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
FaithHH1
<Gunda...@127.0.0.1> writes:
>I know you're reading this Jennifer.
> How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
So, how long has it been?
ClaySkye
#4
Bored With The Boring Again
<na...@For-God.com> wrote:
>Bored With The Boring Again wrote:
>>
>> On 19 May 2001 02:17:07 -0500, "GundamPilot" <Gunda...@127.0.0.1>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I know you're reading this Jennifer.
>> > How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
>>
>> Piss off asshole. You're the reason she left alt.atheism.
>>
>> Oh, PS. She went back to atheism and is now dating me.
>
>You wish!
>
>Gosh...
>
>Jennifer is nice person, it's extremely unlikely that she'd
>ever date you... and she's NOT an atheist.
>
>Why do atheists LIE so much?
Why do you believe in all that bullshit you try to pass off to us as
science?
Bored With The Boring Again
He's got to learn why his god gave men like him right hands. ;-)
Clayton Forno
"John P. Boatwright" <na...@For-God.com> wrote in message
news:3B06AC...@For-God.com...
> Bored With The Boring Again wrote:
> >
> > On 19 May 2001 02:17:07 -0500, "GundamPilot" <Gunda...@127.0.0.1>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >I know you're reading this Jennifer.
> > > How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
> >
> > Piss off asshole. You're the reason she left alt.atheism.
> >
> > Oh, PS. She went back to atheism and is now dating me.
>
> You wish!
>
> Gosh...
>
> Jennifer is nice person, it's extremely unlikely that she'd
> ever date you... and she's NOT an atheist.
>
> Why do atheists LIE so much?
You are such a moron....it's actually getting to be quite funny at times
now.
Rob Coats
With The Boring Again") wrote:
>On 19 May 2001 17:44:35 GMT, fait...@cs.comclayskye (FaithHH1) wrote:
>
>>In article <3b061df3$1...@news.binaries.net>, "GundamPilot"
>><Gunda...@127.0.0.1> writes:
>>
>>>I know you're reading this Jennifer.
>>> How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
>>
>>So, how long has it been?
>
>He's got to learn why his god gave men like him right hands. ;-)
Maybe he's in denial. I for one, if there was a god, would feel ripped
off that I am not ambidextrous.
Andrew Lias
GundamPilot <Gunda...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>I know you're reading this Jennifer.
> How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
Thank you for your delivery, but we're full up on pathos and, furthermore,
we haven't ordered a shipment in months.
Right now, we're more interested in biological procurements. I don't
suppose that you'd be willing to go out and get a life?
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Yang
<na...@For-God.com> wrote:
>Bored With The Boring Again wrote:
>>
>> On 19 May 2001 02:17:07 -0500, "GundamPilot" <Gunda...@127.0.0.1>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I know you're reading this Jennifer.
>> > How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
>>
>> Piss off asshole. You're the reason she left alt.atheism.
>>
>> Oh, PS. She went back to atheism and is now dating me.
>
>You wish!
>
>Gosh...
>
>Jennifer is nice person, it's extremely unlikely that she'd
>ever date you... and she's NOT an atheist.
Since when did you become her governess?
John P. Boatwright
She's a nice person, it doesn't take genius to figure that out.
And she's specifically stated that she is not an atheist anymore.
As for Eric's chances of dating her...
ha ha ha...
I rest my case.
John P. Boatwright
>
> On Sat, 19 May 2001 10:24:02 -0700, "John P. Boatwright"
> <na...@For-God.com> wrote:
>
> >Bored With The Boring Again wrote:
> >>
> >> On 19 May 2001 02:17:07 -0500, "GundamPilot" <Gunda...@127.0.0.1>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >I know you're reading this Jennifer.
> >> > How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
> >>
> >> Piss off asshole. You're the reason she left alt.atheism.
> >>
> >> Oh, PS. She went back to atheism and is now dating me.
> >
> >You wish!
> >
> >Gosh...
> >
> >Jennifer is nice person, it's extremely unlikely that she'd
> >ever date you... and she's NOT an atheist.
> >
> >Why do atheists LIE so much?
>
> Why do you believe in all that bullshit you try to pass off to us as
> science?
Us grocery store clerks know all about science and have
no problem reseaching science results, scriptures, etc...
It all fits together. You not bothering to figure it
out, that's your choice... you could look the stuff up
too and find out that it's legit. Or you could do as
you've done and ignore the obvious, saying it's just
too unlikely.
For me though, Genesis 1 nails it.
You probably don't have a clue about this... but there's
this software techneque called CRC's (Cylic Redundency Check)
that's used to verify incoming data. The CRC is typically
32 bits... the end result of using the CRC is that you know
with assurance that the data received is correct if the CRC
matches what's been sent for a CRC value, all the previous
data in a "frame" being manipulated to generate a CRC to
check against the final CRC sent to be verified with.
Notice the 32 bits... it gives assurance to about 4.3 billion
to one that the data was correctly sent if the CRC matches.
The data could still be wrong, but it's very unlikely.
They use such CRC's all over the place, it's pretty common
and people then trust the data when the CRC matches, saying
it's just too unlikely that the data was wrong.
The problem for you Eric is that Genesis 1, just looking
at the TIMING of the events, it's correctly given with odds
of 208,000,000:1 and that says it's only about a factor of
20 off from what they use to verify valid data sent.
Get the picture?
What really takes the cake, is that that was ONLY for the
TIMING of the events, when the PHRASES used are included,
the odds become astronomical, well beyond anything expected
of the CRC's used to verify correct data transmission.
Genesis 1 is in effect, data that was transmitted and recieved.
The data sent was coded such that it could be verified later
after reception and the "CRC" had been calculated (creation
was studied... the correct sequence then being known).
For me, it's just that simple, the data was sent, the CRC
was calculated, it matched... and the odds of it matching
is unbelievably higher than common CRC's used to verify data
today.
It's impossible for me to doubt God, what he said matches
what his creation shows... hence he is God.
Bored With The Boring Again
<na...@For-God.com> wrote:
>Yang wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 19 May 2001 10:24:02 -0700, "John P. Boatwright"
>> <na...@For-God.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Bored With The Boring Again wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 19 May 2001 02:17:07 -0500, "GundamPilot" <Gunda...@127.0.0.1>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >I know you're reading this Jennifer.
>> >> > How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
>> >>
>> >> Piss off asshole. You're the reason she left alt.atheism.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, PS. She went back to atheism and is now dating me.
>> >
>> >You wish!
>> >
>> >Gosh...
>> >
>> >Jennifer is nice person, it's extremely unlikely that she'd
>> >ever date you... and she's NOT an atheist.
>>
>> Since when did you become her governess?
>
>She's a nice person, it doesn't take genius to figure that out.
>
>And she's specifically stated that she is not an atheist anymore.
>
>As for Eric's chances of dating her...
>
>ha ha ha...
Better chance than you.
The Plasmatron
> I know you're reading this Jennifer.
> How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
Actually she's not reading it. She left alt.atheism for real because
of you. She's threatened many *MANY* times in the past to do this, and
this is the first time she's actually stayed away for more than a day or
so. You must really scare the shit out of her, you scumback stalker. I
just hope that she calls the cops on you soon and ends your harrasment.
You deserve to rot in jail.
--
The Left Reverend Plasm...@godisdead.com
Atheist Number Fifteen Score and Seventeen
John D. Leckie
On Sun, 20 May 2001 01:55:40 -0700, "John P. Boatwright"
John P. Boatwright
>
> John Boatwright, tell me you're not really a grocery store clerk.
No way, that would be lying.
John P. Boatwright
>
> John D. Leckie wrote:
> >
> > John Boatwright, tell me you're not really a grocery store clerk.
>
> No way, that would be lying.
OK, OK... a bit more detail.
The atheists tracked me down to a grocery store in Florida.
Seriously, they ranted on and on about it... produce section,
fruits and nuts... I guess I'm a manager there.
Anyway, they were pretty sure of it, so ya, they're right,
I am a grocery store clerk... have a resume around here
somewhere that proves it... maybe... OK, it's a stretch
that I still have the resume, that was at 17, but I might
still have it... if not just write another one.
As for Florida... well, you saw the election, Bush EASILY
won and I did vote for him... registered Republican and
would vote for him again... he's won over 300 times in the
last year and I voted for him each and every time they
redid the election (I knew Gore would lose, he'd lost all
the couple hundred times during 2000, so it's a foregone
conclusion that he'd continue to lose the next 300 times
this year as well).
Anyway, the atheists tracked me down and I knew it was futile
to argue about it.
Yes, I'm a grocery store clerk, I admit it.
Elroy Willis
> John P. Boatwright wrote:
>> John D. Leckie wrote:
>>> John Boatwright, tell me you're not really a grocery store clerk.
>> No way, that would be lying.
> OK, OK... a bit more detail.
> The atheists tracked me down to a grocery store in Florida.
> Seriously, they ranted on and on about it... produce section,
> fruits and nuts... I guess I'm a manager there.
You certainly fit right in with the fruits and nuts.
--
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EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
One man's absurdity is another man's religion.
Paul Duca
Elroy Willis wrote:
> John P. Boatwright <na...@For-God.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>
> > John P. Boatwright wrote:
> >> John D. Leckie wrote:
>
> >>> John Boatwright, tell me you're not really a grocery store clerk.
>
> >> No way, that would be lying.
>
> > OK, OK... a bit more detail.
>
> > The atheists tracked me down to a grocery store in Florida.
>
> > Seriously, they ranted on and on about it... produce section,
> > fruits and nuts... I guess I'm a manager there.
>
> You certainly fit right in with the fruits and nuts.
>
>
Boatright says he's just a grocery store clerk...doesn't that
fly in the face of his claims that God and Jesus bless their followers?
Shouldn't John be an important, well-paid professional man with a big
house and fancy car, all rewards for serving the Lord?
Paul
Elroy Willis
Well, Jesus mows my lawn every Thursday, so being a grocery store
clerk wouldn't seem to be beneath him.
John P. Boatwright
>
> Paul Duca <toms...@mediaone.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>
> > Elroy Willis wrote:
> >> John P. Boatwright <na...@For-God.com> wrote in alt.atheism
> >>> John P. Boatwright wrote:
> >>>> John D. Leckie wrote:
>
> >>>>> John Boatwright, tell me you're not really a grocery store clerk.
>
> >>>> No way, that would be lying.
>
> >>> OK, OK... a bit more detail.
>
> >>> The atheists tracked me down to a grocery store in Florida.
>
> >>> Seriously, they ranted on and on about it... produce section,
> >>> fruits and nuts... I guess I'm a manager there.
>
> >> You certainly fit right in with the fruits and nuts.
>
> > Boatright says he's just a grocery store clerk...doesn't that
> > fly in the face of his claims that God and Jesus bless their followers?
> > Shouldn't John be an important, well-paid professional man with a big
> > house and fancy car, all rewards for serving the Lord?
The important ones in the store work the cash register,
from the back room.
Produce ain't that far away...
> Well, Jesus mows my lawn every Thursday, so being a grocery store
> clerk wouldn't seem to be beneath him.
You wish.
Johnny Bravo
<na...@For-God.com> wrote:
>The problem for you Eric is that Genesis 1, just looking
>at the TIMING of the events, it's correctly given with odds
>of 208,000,000:1 and that says it's only about a factor of
>20 off from what they use to verify valid data sent.
>
>Get the picture?
No. Plants did not appear before the sun.
Guess your bible fails even a basic CRC.
You lose, your fantasy fails yet again you mendacious fuckwit.
--
Best Wishes,
Johnny Bravo
BAAWA Knight, EAC - Temporal Adjustments Division
Ordained Minister - Universal Life Church
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability
of the human mind to correlate all its contents." - HP Lovecraft
Yang
<na...@For-God.com> wrote:
>Bored With The Boring Again wrote:
>> Why do you believe in all that bullshit you try to pass off to us as
>> science?
>
>Us grocery store clerks know all about science and have
>no problem reseaching science results, scriptures, etc...
Of course you don't:
"Proto star? Like that hard as nails Jupiter that you said was a
fluffy gas ball??? Too funny. Jupiter is SOLID, just view the
Shoemaker-Levy 9 comet impacts ON THE SURFACE!!! Astronomers just
don't keep up."
J. B. Boatwright
John P. Boatwright
>
> On Sun, 20 May 2001 01:55:40 -0700, "John P. Boatwright"
> <na...@For-God.com> wrote:
>
> >The problem for you Eric is that Genesis 1, just looking
> >at the TIMING of the events, it's correctly given with odds
> >of 208,000,000:1 and that says it's only about a factor of
> >20 off from what they use to verify valid data sent.
> >
> >Get the picture?
>
> No. Plants did not appear before the sun.
See them showing that cell walls could form in SPACE, all
the organics were there too.
You lose.
> Guess your bible fails even a basic CRC.
Nope, they had NO TERM for single cell photosynthetic life
which they ADMIT would be the first form of life that would
show up.
Again, you lose.
Yang
<na...@For-God.com> wrote:
>Elroy Willis wrote:
>>
>> Paul Duca <toms...@mediaone.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>>
>> > Elroy Willis wrote:
>> >> John P. Boatwright <na...@For-God.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>> >>> John P. Boatwright wrote:
>> >>>> John D. Leckie wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> John Boatwright, tell me you're not really a grocery store clerk.
>>
>> >>>> No way, that would be lying.
>>
>> >>> OK, OK... a bit more detail.
>>
>> >>> The atheists tracked me down to a grocery store in Florida.
>>
>> >>> Seriously, they ranted on and on about it... produce section,
>> >>> fruits and nuts... I guess I'm a manager there.
>>
>> >> You certainly fit right in with the fruits and nuts.
>>
>> > Boatright says he's just a grocery store clerk...doesn't that
>> > fly in the face of his claims that God and Jesus bless their followers?
>> > Shouldn't John be an important, well-paid professional man with a big
>> > house and fancy car, all rewards for serving the Lord?
>
>The important ones in the store work the cash register,
>from the back room.
So what did your book say about bearing false witness?
John P. Boatwright
I'm a store clerk, yangy boy... the atheists found out.
I couldn't argue with 'em, they were right...
Yep, I remember writing the resume, grocery store clerk,
right about 17 or so...
Oh well, life goes on.
Clayton Forno
"John P. Boatwright" <na...@For-God.com> wrote in message
The only thing running circles is the little mouse running in the wheel that
powers your brain.
Are you actually capable of understanding how big of a fucking idiot you
are?
Do you really believe you are this genius you seem to think that you
are...or did the other people in your adult special ed class just vote you
"Mista Smmart Persun"?
Seek help you raving loony!!
Johnny Bravo
<na...@For-God.com> wrote:
>Johnny Bravo wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 20 May 2001 01:55:40 -0700, "John P. Boatwright"
>> <na...@For-God.com> wrote:
>>
>> >The problem for you Eric is that Genesis 1, just looking
>> >at the TIMING of the events, it's correctly given with odds
>> >of 208,000,000:1 and that says it's only about a factor of
>> >20 off from what they use to verify valid data sent.
>> >
>> >Get the picture?
>>
>> No. Plants did not appear before the sun.
>
>See them showing that cell walls could form in SPACE, all
>the organics were there too.
>
>You lose.
Cell walls don't use photosynthesis without light.
You are wrong yet again, though that has never bothered you before.
>> Guess your bible fails even a basic CRC.
>
>Nope, they had NO TERM for single cell photosynthetic life
>which they ADMIT would be the first form of life that would
>show up.
Which did not form before the first stars did. Yet another loss for
you, but why spoil that perfect record.
Al Klein
posted in alt.atheism:
>John P. Boatwright <na...@For-God.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>
>> John P. Boatwright wrote:
>>> John D. Leckie wrote:
>
>>>> John Boatwright, tell me you're not really a grocery store clerk.
>
>>> No way, that would be lying.
>
>> OK, OK... a bit more detail.
>
>> The atheists tracked me down to a grocery store in Florida.
>
>> Seriously, they ranted on and on about it... produce section,
>> fruits and nuts... I guess I'm a manager there.
>
>You certainly fit right in with the fruits and nuts.
But he's not managing very well.
--
Al - Unnumbered Atheist #infinity
aklein at villagenet dot com
John P. Boatwright
>
> On Sun, 20 May 2001 12:46:18 -0700, "John P. Boatwright"
> <na...@For-God.com> wrote:
>
> >Johnny Bravo wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, 20 May 2001 01:55:40 -0700, "John P. Boatwright"
> >> <na...@For-God.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >The problem for you Eric is that Genesis 1, just looking
> >> >at the TIMING of the events, it's correctly given with odds
> >> >of 208,000,000:1 and that says it's only about a factor of
> >> >20 off from what they use to verify valid data sent.
> >> >
> >> >Get the picture?
> >>
> >> No. Plants did not appear before the sun.
> >
> >See them showing that cell walls could form in SPACE, all
> >the organics were there too.
> >
> >You lose.
>
> Cell walls don't use photosynthesis without light.
Who said there was no light?
See SN1987A, Eta Carina, etc... how else do you expect them
to be able to see exploded stars unless there's light from them?
eh?
Sheeze...
> You are wrong yet again, though that has never bothered you before.
You wish.
HOW do you think they can see exploded stars... if you're claiming
there's no light?
> >> Guess your bible fails even a basic CRC.
> >
> >Nope, they had NO TERM for single cell photosynthetic life
> >which they ADMIT would be the first form of life that would
> >show up.
>
> Which did not form before the first stars did. Yet another loss for
> you, but why spoil that perfect record.
ah ah ah...
Genesis said "let there be light" >>> BEFORE <<< the "plants".
That "pre-sun" star lit up, heavier elements formed ABOVE the
surface of the NEW star (see the Chandra report for Nov 2000,
NEW stars burning VERY bright BEFORE the inner core begins it's
fusion), those heavier elements exploded out... cell walls
formed in space along with the organics already there from
the explosion of the star, etc...
What, you think stuff just magic'd here?
ha ha ha...
Once that "pre-sun" star exploded, all the stuff needed to
form life was then shot out from it... and God starts
forming planets from the regathering matter, single cell
photosynthetic life being formed in space, then ending up
being dumped on the planet earth as the regathering matter
continues to impact earth... the land rising out of the
"waters" or seas.
It all fits, every last detail given in Genesis fits with
what has to occur for our solar system to form as seen.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://www.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
JulieKale
>Date: 5/20/01 7:52 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3B07BD...@For-God.com>
>
>John P. Boatwright wrote:
>>
>> John D. Leckie wrote:
>> >
>> > John Boatwright, tell me you're not really a grocery store clerk.
>>
>> No way, that would be lying.
>
>OK, OK... a bit more detail.
>
>The atheists tracked me down to a grocery store in Florida.
>
>Seriously, they ranted on and on about it... produce section,
>fruits and nuts... I guess I'm a manager there.
>
>Anyway, they were pretty sure of it, so ya, they're right,
>I am a grocery store clerk... have a resume around here
>somewhere that proves it... maybe... OK, it's a stretch
>that I still have the resume, that was at 17, but I might
>still have it... if not just write another one.
LOL! Boy oh boy, have I missed alt.atheism....
JulieKale
atheist #1029
JulieKale
>Date: 5/20/01 5:07 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9e8514$j7p$5...@coward.ks.cc.utah.edu>
>
>On 19 May 2001 02:17:07 -0500 GundamPilot <Gunda...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>> I know you're reading this Jennifer.
>> How do you ignore someone who loves you and call yourself moral?
>
> Actually she's not reading it. She left alt.atheism for real because
>of you. She's threatened many *MANY* times in the past to do this, and
>this is the first time she's actually stayed away for more than a day or
>so. You must really scare the shit out of her, you scumback stalker. I
>just hope that she calls the cops on you soon and ends your harrasment.
>You deserve to rot in jail.
Man, seriously. I have read a few of these things, (been away myself) somebody
has some serious problems here...
JulieKale
atheist #1029
John D. Leckie
<na...@For-God.com> wrote:
I was a grocery store clerk at 17, too. Tell us, John, what do you do
NOW? No silliness-- Try to answer the question honestly. No bearing
false witness. I'm asking you a direct question.
*Sits back and waits to see what happens*
This should be good.
John D. Leckie
wrote:
That cracks me up EVERY TIME. He really SAID that? Bwahahahahahaha!
The convenient thing is no one can correct him on this because his god
had it all figured out before the scientists were even created, right?
Hehehehhehe.
John Boaty, would you mind explaining this quote? Did you really say
this, and if you did, how do you explain yourself now?
Boatwright, the champion of christianity that christians pretend they
don't know...
The Plasmatron
Yea. If you've been around for a while you know how tough it is to
drive away Skypher.
Bored With The Boring Again
What are you trying to do, boaty? Go into competition with L Ron
Hubbard?
?
Mike Smith
Julie! Where ya been?
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and my bowels were moved for him." - Song of Solomon 5:4
Elroy Willis
> Elroy Willis <e...@airmail.net> posted in alt.atheism:
>> John P. Boatwright <na...@For-God.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>>> John P. Boatwright wrote:
>>>> John D. Leckie wrote:
>>>>> John Boatwright, tell me you're not really a grocery store clerk.
>>>> No way, that would be lying.
>>> OK, OK... a bit more detail.
>>> The atheists tracked me down to a grocery store in Florida.
>>> Seriously, they ranted on and on about it... produce section,
>>> fruits and nuts... I guess I'm a manager there.
>> You certainly fit right in with the fruits and nuts.
> But he's not managing very well.
How hard is it to manage a bunch of fruits and nuts?
STD DIALUP
: <na...@For-God.com> wrote:
: "Proto star? Like that hard as nails Jupiter that you said was a
: fluffy gas ball??? Too funny. Jupiter is SOLID, just view the
: Shoemaker-Levy 9 comet impacts ON THE SURFACE!!! Astronomers just
: don't keep up."
: J. B. Boatwright
Two solid items exist within this universe. Jupiter & your head.
Bored With The Boring Again
wrote:
>Al Klein <ruk...@pern.org> wrote in alt.atheism
>
>> Elroy Willis <e...@airmail.net> posted in alt.atheism:
>>> John P. Boatwright <na...@For-God.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>>>> John P. Boatwright wrote:
>>>>> John D. Leckie wrote:
>
>>>>>> John Boatwright, tell me you're not really a grocery store clerk.
>
>>>>> No way, that would be lying.
>
>>>> OK, OK... a bit more detail.
>
>>>> The atheists tracked me down to a grocery store in Florida.
>
>>>> Seriously, they ranted on and on about it... produce section,
>>>> fruits and nuts... I guess I'm a manager there.
>
>>> You certainly fit right in with the fruits and nuts.
>
>> But he's not managing very well.
>
>How hard is it to manage a bunch of fruits and nuts?
Pretty difficult when you are one of them. ;-) Oh, and let's not
insult the fruits, boaty is not gay. He is a gerbophile.
JulieKale
>Date: 5/21/01 8:05 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9ecdva$jrh$1...@news.chorus.net>
>
>iro...@cs.comjunk (JulieKale) wrote:
>
>Julie! Where ya been?
Working! I got a new job in the company and so let my internet life slip. To my
shame I have let the website fall by the wayside, but you gotta understand, I'm
pretty busy. :)
Anyways, I've been working, trying to get my finances straight so I can release
a body of musicial work. You know it's expensive to release a CD without a
label. So that's what I've been working towards.
JulieKale
atheist #1029
Wayne Bagguley
> Johnny Bravo wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 20 May 2001 12:46:18 -0700, "John P. Boatwright"
> > <na...@For-God.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Johnny Bravo wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, 20 May 2001 01:55:40 -0700, "John P. Boatwright"
> > >> <na...@For-God.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >The problem for you Eric is that Genesis 1, just looking
> > >> >at the TIMING of the events, it's correctly given with odds
> > >> >of 208,000,000:1 and that says it's only about a factor of
> > >> >20 off from what they use to verify valid data sent.
> > >> >
> > >> >Get the picture?
> > >>
> > >> No. Plants did not appear before the sun.
> > >
> > >See them showing that cell walls could form in SPACE, all
> > >the organics were there too.
> > >
> > >You lose.
> >
> > Cell walls don't use photosynthesis without light.
>
> Who said there was no light?
>
> See SN1987A, Eta Carina, etc... how else do you expect them
> to be able to see exploded stars unless there's light from them?
SN1987A is 12 million light years away. With the unaided eye you'd
probably expect about 6 photons per second to reach your retina.
This is not enough for photosynthesis.
> eh?
>
> Sheeze...
Exactly!
> > You are wrong yet again, though that has never bothered you before.
>
> You wish.
He wishes and he is right.
> HOW do you think they can see exploded stars... if you're claiming
> there's no light?
There's not enought light from any stars outside the solar system to
sustain photosynthesis.
> > >> Guess your bible fails even a basic CRC.
> > >
> > >Nope, they had NO TERM for single cell photosynthetic life
> > >which they ADMIT would be the first form of life that would
> > >show up.
> >
> > Which did not form before the first stars did. Yet another loss for
> > you, but why spoil that perfect record.
>
> ah ah ah...
tchoo, bless you.
> Genesis said "let there be light" >>> BEFORE <<< the "plants".
But after the earth was formed. Which is not what science tells us.
> That "pre-sun" star lit up, heavier elements formed ABOVE the
> surface of the NEW star (see the Chandra report for Nov 2000,
> NEW stars burning VERY bright BEFORE the inner core begins it's
> fusion), those heavier elements exploded out... cell walls
> formed in space along with the organics already there from
> the explosion of the star, etc...
>
> What, you think stuff just magic'd here?
No. But you think that god just magic'd it there.
> ha ha ha...
Indeed.
> Once that "pre-sun" star exploded, all the stuff needed to
> form life was then shot out from it... and God starts
> forming planets
Not gravity? You mean that god magic'd the planets?
> from the regathering matter, single cell
> photosynthetic life being formed in space,
Impossible. Photosynthesis requires carbon dioxide and
water (amongst other things). There's not enough of these
available locally even in the most dense gas clouds in space.
They would have no way of obtaining the raw materials that
they need and they would soon suffocate because the oxygen
they produce would surround them. They would also not have
any protection from radiation. Their DNA would not be
able to survive.
> then ending up
> being dumped on the planet earth
Only on earth? Was it dumped on other bodies too? Is any of
this photosynthetic life still floating around in space?
> as the regathering matter
> continues to impact earth... the land rising out of the
> "waters" or seas.
How did the water stay in liquid form when the impacts would have
raised the surface temperature to above the boiling point?
> It all fits, every last detail given in Genesis fits with
> what has to occur for our solar system to form as seen.
Does not.
-
Wayne
Wayne Bagguley
> I was a grocery store clerk at 17, too. Tell us, John, what do you do
> NOW? No silliness-- Try to answer the question honestly. No bearing
> false witness. I'm asking you a direct question.
>
> *Sits back and waits to see what happens*
>
> This should be good.
He works for a company called Salad Engineering in Hillsboro.
http://www.teleport.com/~salad
I think he must be the tea boy.
-
Wayne
John D. Leckie
his amusing links and just go back to the parent directory.
I suspect that he IS salad engineering, actually. If he can post
stuff like that to the same webspact taken up by his so-called
"company," and he's still IN the company, he must BE the company.
Otherwise, any sane company would have thrown him out. :)
But I'd like to hear it from him, if that's the case. Still waiting
to hear what Boaty really does...
On 22 May 2001 02:25:07 -0700, snow...@snowbird.freeserve.co.uk
Michelle Malkin
wrote:
Can you describe what will be on the cd?
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JulieKale
>Date: 5/22/01 1:39 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <riclgtc061t9gsdjv...@4ax.com>
>
>On 22 May 2001 05:38:21 GMT, iro...@cs.comjunk (JulieKale)
>wrote:
>
>>>From: Mike Smith mike...@apexmail.com
>>>Date: 5/21/01 8:05 PM Central Daylight Time
>>>Message-id: <9ecdva$jrh$1...@news.chorus.net>
>>>
>>>iro...@cs.comjunk (JulieKale) wrote:
>>>
>>>Julie! Where ya been?
>>
>>Working! I got a new job in the company and so let my internet life slip. To
>my
>>shame I have let the website fall by the wayside, but you gotta understand,
>I'm
>>pretty busy. :)
>>Anyways, I've been working, trying to get my finances straight so I can
>release
>>a body of musicial work. You know it's expensive to release a CD without a
>>label. So that's what I've been working towards.
>>
>>JulieKale
>>atheist #1029
>
>Can you describe what will be on the cd?
Original compositions. Mostly autobiographical in nature. Lots of accoustic
guitar work, nothing really complicated. I guess it's just a personal statement
about experiences I've had. Hopefully other people will be able to relate. :)
JulieKale
atheist #1029
Although the masters make the rules
For the wise men and the fools
I got nothing, Ma, to live up to.
- Dylan, It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)
Mike Smith
=Anyways, I've been working, trying to get my finances
=straight so I can release a body of musicial work. You
=know it's expensive to release a CD without a label.
=So that's what I've been working towards.
I've never done that, so I don't know what's involved.
How big of a mortgage are you going to have to take
out?
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and nothing shall by any means hurt you." - Luke 10:19
Michelle Malkin
wrote:
Sounds interesting, plus I like acoustic guitar. Any kind of
timescale before it will be ready for release? A well-done
personal statement album has been the start of many a career.
>JulieKale
>atheist #1029
>Although the masters make the rules
>For the wise men and the fools
>I got nothing, Ma, to live up to.
> - Dylan, It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)
Michelle Malkin (Mickey)
Bored With The Boring Again
wrote:
>Well, yes, this conclusion is easy to reach if you just follow one of
>his amusing links and just go back to the parent directory.
>
>I suspect that he IS salad engineering, actually. If he can post
>stuff like that to the same webspact taken up by his so-called
>"company," and he's still IN the company, he must BE the company.
>Otherwise, any sane company would have thrown him out. :)
>
>But I'd like to hear it from him, if that's the case. Still waiting
>to hear what Boaty really does...
One job a year and spends the rest of the time in alt.atheism making a
total ass of himself?
JulieKale
>Date: 5/22/01 3:18 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9eehha$5ih$1...@news.chorus.net>
>
>iro...@cs.comjunk (JulieKale) wrote:
>
>=Anyways, I've been working, trying to get my finances
>=straight so I can release a body of musicial work. You
>=know it's expensive to release a CD without a label.
>=So that's what I've been working towards.
>
>I've never done that, so I don't know what's involved.
>How big of a mortgage are you going to have to take
>out?
The whole thing is going to run me about $5000. Of course, me spending that
kind of money, I am reading all I can. I think even if I fail at this, I will
have had a wonderful experience. I am doing this without regret. That is
something I have grappled with for some time, the prospect of failure. Anyway,
so about $5000, but it will be worth it, even if only to me.
JulieKale
>Date: 5/22/01 3:43 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <5kilgt03o987qis86...@4ax.com>
>
>>>Can you describe what will be on the cd?
>>
>>Original compositions. Mostly autobiographical in nature. Lots of accoustic
>>guitar work, nothing really complicated. I guess it's just a personal
>statement
>>about experiences I've had. Hopefully other people will be able to relate.
>:)
>
>Sounds interesting, plus I like acoustic guitar. Any kind of
>timescale before it will be ready for release? A well-done
>personal statement album has been the start of many a career.
Oh man, I ain't even gonna go there. You know there were people who have been
hearing me talk about this record for two years. Everytime I give them a date,
they go " yeah...right...whatever you say..." And I can understand that
skepticism. But let us just say hopefully in the forth quarter of this year, or
the first quarter of the next one.
See a big thing with me has always been fear. As I said in another post, I am
putting a lot of money into this, and it's not so much that the money amount
matters that much, it's just that it's very personal to me. I have been trying
to work past the idea that it's just a body of music, and not me that would be
rejected, should I fail. Anyway....bravery...being scared out of your mind and
doing it anyway. That's where I am right now....
JulieKale
>Date: 5/22/01 5:30 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id:
><BC844E354DB9E135.204C3F1D...@lp.airnews.net>
>
>On Tue, 22 May 2001 19:09:37 +0200, John D. Leckie <igh...@yahoo.de>
>wrote:
>
>>Well, yes, this conclusion is easy to reach if you just follow one of
>>his amusing links and just go back to the parent directory.
>>
>>I suspect that he IS salad engineering, actually. If he can post
>>stuff like that to the same webspact taken up by his so-called
>>"company," and he's still IN the company, he must BE the company.
>>Otherwise, any sane company would have thrown him out. :)
>>
>>But I'd like to hear it from him, if that's the case. Still waiting
>>to hear what Boaty really does...
>
>One job a year and spends the rest of the time in alt.atheism making a
>total ass of himself?
You know, in the many conversations I had with BoatBoy I could never get him to
tell me why he posted here. I know he ain't seriously trying to convert
anybody, so I guess he gets some kind of amusement out of it.
Wayne Bagguley
> You know, in the many conversations I had with BoatBoy I could never get him to
> tell me why he posted here. I know he ain't seriously trying to convert
> anybody, so I guess he gets some kind of amusement out of it.
> JulieKale
He's insecure. Deep down he has real doubts about his beliefs and they
frighten him. He has to post here and make stupid stuff up (like Jupiter
being solid) because that's the only way he can hang on to his faith.
Spewing out the nonsense that he does is a kind of comfort blanket. He
has to write it because when it's written it becomes (to him) a kind of
truth and not just a silly idea in his head.
-
Wayne
John D. Leckie
With The Boring Again") wrote:
>On Tue, 22 May 2001 19:09:37 +0200, John D. Leckie <igh...@yahoo.de>
>wrote:
>
>>Well, yes, this conclusion is easy to reach if you just follow one of
>>his amusing links and just go back to the parent directory.
>>
>>I suspect that he IS salad engineering, actually. If he can post
>>stuff like that to the same webspact taken up by his so-called
>>"company," and he's still IN the company, he must BE the company.
>>Otherwise, any sane company would have thrown him out. :)
>>
>>But I'd like to hear it from him, if that's the case. Still waiting
>>to hear what Boaty really does...
>
>One job a year and spends the rest of the time in alt.atheism making a
>total ass of himself?
>
Well, if I don't hear from him sometime soon I'll assume that, but
I'll always wonder... :)
dotcom dotcom
iro...@cs.comjunk (JulieKale) wrote:
> >From: fire...@god.airmail.net ("Bored With The Boring Again")
> >Date: 5/22/01 5:30 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id:
> ><BC844E354DB9E135.204C3F1D...@lp.airnews.net>
> >
> >On Tue, 22 May 2001 19:09:37 +0200, John D. Leckie <igh...@yahoo.de>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Well, yes, this conclusion is easy to reach if you just follow one of
> >>his amusing links and just go back to the parent directory.
> >>
> >>I suspect that he IS salad engineering, actually. If he can post
> >>stuff like that to the same webspact taken up by his so-called
> >>"company," and he's still IN the company, he must BE the company.
> >>Otherwise, any sane company would have thrown him out. :)
> >>
> >>But I'd like to hear it from him, if that's the case. Still waiting
> >>to hear what Boaty really does...
> >
> >One job a year and spends the rest of the time in alt.atheism making a
> >total ass of himself?
>
> You know, in the many conversations I had with BoatBoy I could never get
> him to
> tell me why he posted here. I know he ain't seriously trying to convert
> anybody, so I guess he gets some kind of amusement out of it.
He posts and gets made fun of. Getting made fun of is the modern version
of persecution, and doesn't hurt nearly as much as the old-fashioned
kind. He's trying to get himself laughed into a better section of heaven.
--
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Mike Smith
=The whole thing is going to run me about $5000.
What are you getting for $5000? You can buy a serious
hard disk recorder or something comparable for that.
=Of course, me spending that kind of money, I am reading
=all I can. I think even if I fail at this, I will have had a
=wonderful experience. I am doing this without regret.
=That is something I have grappled with for some time,
=the prospect of failure.
What do you mean by failure in this context? That
nobody else will like it?
JulieKale
>Date: 5/23/01 2:52 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9eh4dt$o7s$2...@news.chorus.net>
>
>iro...@cs.comjunk (JulieKale) wrote:
>
>=The whole thing is going to run me about $5000.
>
>What are you getting for $5000? You can buy a serious
>hard disk recorder or something comparable for that.
Well that's what I mean. I am purchasing my own equipment. The recording I'm
getting is very high end, and I have a couple of more things to get. The
actually production of the CD itself (manufacturing) is only going to be about
$2500. The rest is going to be equipment that I will have for now and future
projects.
>=Of course, me spending that kind of money, I am reading
>=all I can. I think even if I fail at this, I will have had a
>=wonderful experience. I am doing this without regret.
>=That is something I have grappled with for some time,
>=the prospect of failure.
>
>What do you mean by failure in this context? That
>nobody else will like it?
I guess. That's silly, though. I keep telling myself I shouldn't care...but...
Michelle Malkin
wrote:
>>From: Michelle Malkin malk...@mindspring.com
>>Date: 5/22/01 3:43 PM Central Daylight Time
>>Message-id: <5kilgt03o987qis86...@4ax.com>
>>
>>>>Can you describe what will be on the cd?
>>>
>>>Original compositions. Mostly autobiographical in nature. Lots of accoustic
>>>guitar work, nothing really complicated. I guess it's just a personal
>>statement
>>>about experiences I've had. Hopefully other people will be able to relate.
>>:)
>>
>>Sounds interesting, plus I like acoustic guitar. Any kind of
>>timescale before it will be ready for release? A well-done
>>personal statement album has been the start of many a career.
>
>Oh man, I ain't even gonna go there. You know there were people who have been
>hearing me talk about this record for two years. Everytime I give them a date,
>they go " yeah...right...whatever you say..." And I can understand that
>skepticism. But let us just say hopefully in the forth quarter of this year, or
>the first quarter of the next one.
>See a big thing with me has always been fear. As I said in another post, I am
>putting a lot of money into this, and it's not so much that the money amount
>matters that much, it's just that it's very personal to me. I have been trying
>to work past the idea that it's just a body of music, and not me that would be
>rejected, should I fail. Anyway....bravery...being scared out of your mind and
>doing it anyway. That's where I am right now....
>
I understand. That's probably why I never tried to become a
professional writer. Fear of failure and hating to be under a
time limit. Plus, everything I ever sent to media fanzines was
accepted. I got very picky about the zines I submitted material
to,after awhile.
Mike Smith
=>Mike Smith mike...@apexmail.com wrote:
=>iro...@cs.comjunk (JulieKale) wrote:
=>
=>=The whole thing is going to run me about $5000.
=>
=>What are you getting for $5000? You can buy a serious
=>hard disk recorder or something comparable for that.
=
=Well that's what I mean. I am purchasing my own equipment.
Oops. I assumed you were booking studio time. What
have you decided on? Or have you narrowed your
search yet?
=>What do you mean by failure in this context? That
=>nobody else will like it?
=
=I guess. That's silly, though. I keep telling myself I shouldn't
=care... but...
Depends who you're doing it for, I guess.
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until the last stone from the last church falls
on the last priest." - Zola
JulieKale
>Date: 5/24/01 3:07 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <9ejpn4$hni$5...@news.chorus.net>
>
>iro...@cs.comjunk (JulieKale) wrote:
>
>=>Mike Smith mike...@apexmail.com wrote:
>=>iro...@cs.comjunk (JulieKale) wrote:
>=>
>=>=The whole thing is going to run me about $5000.
>=>
>=>What are you getting for $5000? You can buy a serious
>=>hard disk recorder or something comparable for that.
>=
>=Well that's what I mean. I am purchasing my own equipment.
>
>Oops. I assumed you were booking studio time. What
>have you decided on? Or have you narrowed your
>search yet?
I have a couple of HDR's in mind, but that's the only thing I'm lacking. I
wouldn't do studio time because to me it's a waste of money. I have done demos
for other poeple and they sounded pretty good so I figure I can do my own too.
>=>What do you mean by failure in this context? That
>=>nobody else will like it?
>=
>=I guess. That's silly, though. I keep telling myself I shouldn't
>=care... but...
>
>Depends who you're doing it for, I guess.
I am doing it for me. But you know, for years everybody around me (up until
recently) has told me that I'm a good singer and a really good writer but I'll
never fucking be good enough at it to make a living. You know you can
internalize those things easily.
Elroy Willis
> Elroy Willis wrote:
>> Well, Jesus mows my lawn every Thursday, so being a grocery store
>> clerk wouldn't seem to be beneath him.
> You wish.
A grocery store clerk would be a step up, wouldn't it?
Mike Smith
=>From: Mike Smith mike...@apexmail.com
--snip--
=>=>What do you mean by failure in this context? That
=>=>nobody else will like it?
=>=
=>=I guess. That's silly, though. I keep telling myself I
=>=shouldn't care... but...
=>
=>Depends who you're doing it for, I guess.
=
=I am doing it for me. But you know, for years everybody
=around me (up until recently) has told me that I'm a good
=singer and a really good writer but I'll never fucking be
=good enough at it to make a living. You know you can
=internalize those things easily.
If I heard that from people I considered to be good singers
& good writers, it might have an impact. But still... in my view,
you can do it for yourself or you can do it to make a living.
If the two overlap, great.
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"Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child;
but the rod of correction shall drive it far
from him." - Pr:22:15
John P. Boatwright
>
> On Tue, 22 May 2001 19:09:37 +0200, John D. Leckie <igh...@yahoo.de>
> wrote:
>
> >Well, yes, this conclusion is easy to reach if you just follow one of
> >his amusing links and just go back to the parent directory.
Ya, but what if it's a fake?
You know how atheists are really skeptical and such, probably
you should be going with the "grocery store clerk" as that's
what the atheists claimed after tracking me down...
What, you think atheists would lie about it? It was posted
DAILY, the atheists rambling on and on about it.
Best bet is: grocery store clerk in Florida.
Yep, atheists are NEVER wrong, their skeptisism pays
off again and again, always believing what their DOUBT
allows them to believe.
> >I suspect that he IS salad engineering, actually. If he can post
> >stuff like that to the same webspact taken up by his so-called
> >"company," and he's still IN the company, he must BE the company.
> >Otherwise, any sane company would have thrown him out. :)
Ya, and probably wouldn't allow such and such to work
on state of the art stuff either... would you let a
grocery store clerk do that?
... certainly not.
So maybe the site was hacked?
> >But I'd like to hear it from him, if that's the case. Still waiting
> >to hear what Boaty really does...
It's on my resume somewhere around here, grocery store clerk,
I have to admit it, it's the truth.
> One job a year and spends the rest of the time in alt.atheism making a
> total ass of himself?
I simply said the truth, God exists and did what he said he did.
Which doesn't depend one whit on whether or not someone
is a grocery store clerk in Florida.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://www.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
The Ghost In The Machine
<fire...@god.airmail.net>
wrote
on Tue, 22 May 2001 03:22:15 GMT
<C9524E2D656E60F0.F7EDA418...@lp.airnews.net>:
>On Mon, 21 May 2001 20:24:31 -0500, Elroy Willis <e...@airmail.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Al Klein <ruk...@pern.org> wrote in alt.atheism
>>
>>> Elroy Willis <e...@airmail.net> posted in alt.atheism:
>>>> John P. Boatwright <na...@For-God.com> wrote in alt.atheism
>>>>> John P. Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>> John D. Leckie wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> John Boatwright, tell me you're not really a grocery store clerk.
>>
>>>>>> No way, that would be lying.
>>
>>>>> OK, OK... a bit more detail.
>>
>>>>> The atheists tracked me down to a grocery store in Florida.
>>
>>>>> Seriously, they ranted on and on about it... produce section,
>>>>> fruits and nuts... I guess I'm a manager there.
>>
>>>> You certainly fit right in with the fruits and nuts.
>>
>>> But he's not managing very well.
>>
>>How hard is it to manage a bunch of fruits and nuts?
>
>Pretty difficult when you are one of them. ;-) Oh, and let's not
>insult the fruits, boaty is not gay. He is a gerbophile.
Is that fear of gerbils, or did you mean "germophile", fear of germs? :-)
Assuming I'm phrasing that correctly....
(BTW: dumb question for Boaty: why were germs put on this Earth?)
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This is a pithy statement. Please watch where you pith.
John D. Leckie
you refuse to state clearly what you do for a living RIGHT NOW.
Why is that?
Let's pretend that these atheists and their "tracking" skills never
existed. What do you do? Pretend you have no point to make about
your contempt for atheists. Let's say I'm just a guy in a coffee
shop, furthermore, a RELIGIOUS guy, asking you offhandedly what you
do. What would you say to me?
You admit that "grocery store clerk" appears on your resume. Very
well. I admitted to the same. Hey, I was even 17 years old, too! WE
have something in common! None of this posturing says anything about
what you do now. I'm just very curious as to your job, to say nothing
of your educational background, if any. After all, to understand the
cosmos on the level that you do requires some serious education
outside the bible, I think.
What was your take, by the way, on the traces of Lithium in a
smattering of stars within the globular cluster M-13? I wondered how
your theories would apply to that situation. If this confuses you
just ignore it. That's what you seem to do most of the time, anyway.
Seen the recent "face on mars" photos that NASA released? What do you
think of those?
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast24may_1.htm?list155699
I was surprised not to see the "face" in some of your other works on
your enlightening website. Did I miss it? If you can see Jesus and
Mary and, haha, Israel in some of those other pictures, surely you can
see Christ in the face on Mars...?
Anyway, feel free to cut to the chase anytime and fill us in on what
the man who understands SO much does to feed himself. I think it has
some bearing here, given some of the "scientific" claims you make in
these forums.
John
JulieKale
>Date: 5/26/01 2:20 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <lgvvgtg3fusabbtte...@4ax.com>
>
>So, John, all this witty stuff below basically boils down to this--
>you refuse to state clearly what you do for a living RIGHT NOW.
>
>Why is that?
It's a privacy issue with him, gone overboard. He just don't want people to
know. That's the way he is. He'd love to find out about YOU, but doesn't want
you to know about him. Kinda strange, but that shouldn't suprise anyone.
I will say this much though, he is not a grocery store clerk.
JulieKale
atheist #1029
The infidel speaks...
John P. Boatwright
>
> >From: John D. Leckie igh...@yahoo.de
> >Date: 5/26/01 2:20 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <lgvvgtg3fusabbtte...@4ax.com>
> >
> >So, John, all this witty stuff below basically boils down to this--
> >you refuse to state clearly what you do for a living RIGHT NOW.
> >
> >Why is that?
>
> It's a privacy issue with him, gone overboard. He just don't want people to
> know. That's the way he is. He'd love to find out about YOU,
I've seen the "John D. Leckie" name a couple of times now,
so it really seems a bit presumptious that you'd say that.
> but doesn't want you to know about him. Kinda strange, but that
> shouldn't suprise anyone. I will say this much though, he is not
> a grocery store clerk.
Bulloona.
It's on my resume: grocery store clerk.
I'd be lying if I denied being one.
As for work having much to do with a discussion about
God existing... what someone does for work has about NIL
for effect on that discussion.
Science has been around for what... only a few centuries,
degrees and such, even less time. Can science or degrees,
even what someone does for work, can that make or break
the fact that God exists?
No, it can't... it has NO effect.
So yes, the atheists were right, I'm a grocery store clerk
and it didn't have ANY effect on the discussion. All those
WILD claims about people needing degrees, needing to be scientists,
needing to be this or that... just to give "credit" to a
discussion of God existing... it doesn't matter... God exists.
God's own statements, his own words prove that he is the
source of his creation.
John P. Boatwright
>
> John P. Boatwright (hamste...@ductape.com) wrote in alt.atheism
>
> > Elroy Willis wrote:
>
> >> Well, Jesus mows my lawn every Thursday, so being a grocery store
> >> clerk wouldn't seem to be beneath him.
>
> > You wish.
>
> A grocery store clerk would be a step up, wouldn't it?
Landscape companies make incredible amounts of money,
at least I've heard they do on the professional level.
You tell me.
As for BT and him crediting God, let's review what the
CD says, right there on the inside:
-------------------------------------------------------
GREAT THANKS AND GRATITUDE TO:
God for the music and synchronicity, Dominique, ...
(about 20 more lines of people he thanks)
- BT "Movement in still life"
-------------------------------------------------------
Now, notice who BT thanked FIRST...
Ya.
God was thanked FIRST.
JulieKale
>Date: 5/26/01 5:27 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3B102D...@For-God.net>
>
>JulieKale wrote:
>>
>> >From: John D. Leckie igh...@yahoo.de
>> >Date: 5/26/01 2:20 PM Central Daylight Time
>> >Message-id: <lgvvgtg3fusabbtte...@4ax.com>
>> >
>> >So, John, all this witty stuff below basically boils down to this--
>> >you refuse to state clearly what you do for a living RIGHT NOW.
>> >
>> >Why is that?
>>
>> It's a privacy issue with him, gone overboard. He just don't want people to
>> know. That's the way he is. He'd love to find out about YOU,
>
>I've seen the "John D. Leckie" name a couple of times now,
>so it really seems a bit presumptious that you'd say that.
Whatever...
<snip>
>So yes, the atheists were right, I'm a grocery store clerk
>and it didn't have ANY effect on the discussion. All those
>WILD claims about people needing degrees, needing to be scientists,
>needing to be this or that... just to give "credit" to a
>discussion of God existing... it doesn't matter... God exists.
Well the rest of us have these things calls standards. We like our information
to come from someone who knows what they're talking about. If Carl Sagan saw
jesus in the cloud nebula I might be impressed. But you...well that's a
different thing entirely...
Bored With The Boring Again
Gerbophile -- an unhealthy sexual attraction towards gerbils (and
other small rodents).
Bored With The Boring Again
If you start off with one of his goofy websites, and back up, you end
up at a place called "Salad engineering" which touts itself as a
electronics design firm. You cannot get to boaty's goofy sites from
anyplace on the main page, so it is obvious that he isn't interested
in frightening off any of the firm's potential customers. In the
presence of people who might actually pay him money, I'll bet he is
able to "maintain". (although it might be a great effort for him)
Elroy Willis
> Elroy Willis wrote:
>> John P. Boatwright (hamste...@ductape.com) wrote in alt.atheism
>>> Elroy Willis wrote:
>>>> Well, Jesus mows my lawn every Thursday, so being a grocery store
>>>> clerk wouldn't seem to be beneath him.
>>> You wish.
>> A grocery store clerk would be a step up, wouldn't it?
> Landscape companies make incredible amounts of money,
> at least I've heard they do on the professional level.
You can haggle about the price in most cases. Don't take
their first bid.
> You tell me.
What?
> As for BT
BT?
> and him crediting God, let's review what the
> CD says, right there on the inside:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> GREAT THANKS AND GRATITUDE TO:
> God for the music and synchronicity, Dominique, ...
> (about 20 more lines of people he thanks)
> - BT "Movement in still life"
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Now, notice who BT thanked FIRST...
> Ya.
> God was thanked FIRST.
WTF are you talking about?
John P. Boatwright
>
> John P. Boatwright <na...@For-God.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>
> > Elroy Willis wrote:
> >> John P. Boatwright (hamste...@ductape.com) wrote in alt.atheism
> >>> Elroy Willis wrote:
>
> >>>> Well, Jesus mows my lawn every Thursday, so being a grocery store
> >>>> clerk wouldn't seem to be beneath him.
>
> >>> You wish.
>
> >> A grocery store clerk would be a step up, wouldn't it?
>
> > Landscape companies make incredible amounts of money,
> > at least I've heard they do on the professional level.
>
> You can haggle about the price in most cases. Don't take
> their first bid.
Nor the first company bidding...
> > You tell me.
>
> What?
You were saying you thought landscapers would be stepping
up to be grocery store clerks.
> > As for BT
>
> BT?
Ya.
> > and him crediting God, let's review what the
> > CD says, right there on the inside:
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > GREAT THANKS AND GRATITUDE TO:
>
> > God for the music and synchronicity, Dominique, ...
>
> > (about 20 more lines of people he thanks)
>
> > - BT "Movement in still life"
> > -------------------------------------------------------
>
> > Now, notice who BT thanked FIRST...
>
> > Ya.
>
> > God was thanked FIRST.
>
> WTF are you talking about?
It's on the guy's CD, inside... but with you being a Hank
Williams fan, it's somewhat doubtful you know who BT is.
John P. Boatwright
>
> >From: "John P. Boatwright" na...@For-God.net
> >Date: 5/26/01 5:27 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <3B102D...@For-God.net>
> >
> >JulieKale wrote:
> >>
> >> >From: John D. Leckie igh...@yahoo.de
> >> >Date: 5/26/01 2:20 PM Central Daylight Time
> >> >Message-id: <lgvvgtg3fusabbtte...@4ax.com>
> >> >
> >> >So, John, all this witty stuff below basically boils down to this--
> >> >you refuse to state clearly what you do for a living RIGHT NOW.
> >> >
> >> >Why is that?
> >>
> >> It's a privacy issue with him, gone overboard. He just don't want people to
> >> know. That's the way he is. He'd love to find out about YOU,
> >
> >I've seen the "John D. Leckie" name a couple of times now,
> >so it really seems a bit presumptious that you'd say that.
>
> Whatever...
Ya.
> <snip>
>
> >So yes, the atheists were right, I'm a grocery store clerk
> >and it didn't have ANY effect on the discussion. All those
> >WILD claims about people needing degrees, needing to be scientists,
> >needing to be this or that... just to give "credit" to a
> >discussion of God existing... it doesn't matter... God exists.
>
> Well the rest of us have these things calls standards. We like our information
> to come from someone who knows what they're talking about. If Carl Sagan saw
> jesus in the cloud nebula I might be impressed. But you...well that's a
> different thing entirely...
ha ha ha...
Carl Sagan is DEAD!
Darn right you'd be impressed. :)
Regardless, I seriously doubt you'd believe even Sagan, you'd
say he was a nut case for believing God, and that otherwise, he
was just fine doing what he did for work.
There's a HUGE scale out there, and you're trying to fill that
scale with people and evidence, trying to say whether or not
God is there based on what others think, what others said. You
can't put everyone and everything in the the world in that scale,
it's too much for you to consider.
Instead, you should be focusing on what God said, since what
he said clearly shows that he knew it all, and that he is God.
The Ghost In The Machine
<1F033FB5520C1102.FE108027...@lp.airnews.net>:
Oops, my bad; I read it as "gerbophobia".
My brain needs food bad.
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John P. Boatwright
>
>
> >>From: John D. Leckie igh...@yahoo.de
> >>Date: 5/26/01 2:20 PM Central Daylight Time
> >>Message-id: <lgvvgtg3fusabbtte...@4ax.com>
> >>
> >>So, John, all this witty stuff below basically boils down to this--
> >>you refuse to state clearly what you do for a living RIGHT NOW.
> >>
> >>Why is that?
> >
> >It's a privacy issue with him, gone overboard. He just don't want people to
> >know. That's the way he is. He'd love to find out about YOU, but doesn't want
> >you to know about him. Kinda strange, but that shouldn't suprise anyone.
> >I will say this much though, he is not a grocery store clerk.
>
> If you start off with one of his goofy websites, and back up, you end
> up at a place called "Salad engineering" which touts itself as a
> electronics design firm. You cannot get to boaty's goofy sites from
> anyplace on the main page, so it is obvious that he isn't interested
> in frightening off any of the firm's potential customers.
Which explains posting about God being right all the
time on usenet???
ha ha ha...
I couldn't care less what someone thinks about it, other
than the fact that it's clearly obvious to me that God
did EXACTLY what he claimed he did. Your claims about a
site needing links to other sites...
Nah.
Overall, there's two aspects to it:
1. I don't want to profit from God being right, and
as you claimed just above, there's no way that
would happen from your perception of it all, and
the fact that it's all freely stated. Further, if
someone agrees, I still don't want to profit from
God being right. To me, putting a link on a work site
leaves me wondering if I'd ever profit from it, and
I don't want to profit in work, from God being right.
2. What God said is valid on it's own merits, and NEVER
depended on "credit" from anyone. So the "For God"
web site is to point that out, that what God said is
in fact right, that people can in just read what
he said and notice that he was right all along. I
think what God said can in fact stand on it's own,
which it clearly does.
From those two items, there are two sites. One for God,
and another that doesn't attempt to profit from God
being right.
At the time the account was set up, the "For God" site
was a free item, just another directory. But over time,
it seemed like putting a separate domain name would
work better to separate the stuff, so that's where:
came about which further meets item's 1 and 2 above.
I already >>> KNOW <<< God exists. I have NO CHOICE in the
matter of believing him or not... since I KNOW he's there.
I do openly state that I believe him, and have no problem
with putting up a site saying such... I just don't want
profit from him being right. God is the one that was right,
HE freely gave the scriptures, and he's the creator.
When I go to be judged, I don't want to be in a position
where I have to explain why I'd profit from something
that others should have profitted from.
So you see, you have NO CLAIM against the stuff as it's
set up.
I also have no quarrel with someone working for God all
the time and being paid to do such... but that's not
what I do... I work, and when I can, I say God was right.
> In the
> presence of people who might actually pay him money, I'll bet he is
> able to "maintain". (although it might be a great effort for him)
ha ha ha...
90% of the population believes in some form of religion.
Seenms like the claim would end up being about atheists
trying to "maintain", not theists.
JulieKale
>Message-id: <3B104E...@For-God.net>
>
>JulieKale wrote:
>> Well the rest of us have these things calls standards. We like our
>information
>> to come from someone who knows what they're talking about. If Carl Sagan
>saw
>> jesus in the cloud nebula I might be impressed. But you...well that's a
>> different thing entirely...
>
>ha ha ha...
>
>Carl Sagan is DEAD!
>
>Darn right you'd be impressed. :)
You know what I mean. LOL.
>Regardless, I seriously doubt you'd believe even Sagan, you'd
>say he was a nut case for believing God, and that otherwise, he
>was just fine doing what he did for work.
How do you know? Facts are, he had more knowledge on the subject that you do.
And that's what it comes down to; the fact that the only person who makes these
claims is YOU. If it's such verifiable evidence, how come you're the only one
who's plugging it?
>Instead, you should be focusing on what God said, since what
>he said clearly shows that he knew it all, and that he is God.
If you can't see this god, you have no choice but to look towards people. Even
you, despite your claims, use mathematics and science as a reference point. You
need these things, just like the rest of us.
Ministry of Propaganda
> Well the rest of us have these things calls standards. We like our information
> to come from someone who knows what they're talking about. If Carl Sagan saw
> jesus in the cloud nebula I might be impressed. But you...well that's a
> different thing entirely...
>
> JulieKale
> atheist #1029
> The infidel speaks...
Progressive feminists like Susie Bright, Carol Queen and Annalee
Newitz consider transgendered women like me to be _women._ As you do
not, you are in league with the likes of Jerry Falwell or Pat
Robertson. As such, you should remove 'atheist' and 'infidel' from
beneath your sig.
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Judaism, which is the huckster and the conditions that produce him,
the Jew will become impossible, because his consciousness will no
longer have a corresponding object."
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JulieKale
>Date: 5/26/01 9:05 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <de6e48c9.01052...@posting.google.com>
>
>iro...@cs.comjunk (JulieKale) wrote in message ...
>
>> Well the rest of us have these things calls standards. We like our
>information
>> to come from someone who knows what they're talking about. If Carl Sagan
>saw
>> jesus in the cloud nebula I might be impressed. But you...well that's a
>> different thing entirely...
>>
>> JulieKale
>> atheist #1029
>> The infidel speaks...
>
>
>Progressive feminists like Susie Bright, Carol Queen and Annalee
>Newitz consider transgendered women like me to be _women._ As you do
>not, you are in league with the likes of Jerry Falwell or Pat
>Robertson. As such, you should remove 'atheist' and 'infidel' from
>beneath your sig.
Ah, found someone new to hate in me, eh?
Elroy Willis
> Elroy Willis wrote:
>> John P. Boatwright <na...@For-God.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>>> Elroy Willis wrote:
>>>> John P. Boatwright (hamste...@ductape.com) wrote in alt.atheism
>>>>> Elroy Willis wrote:
>>>>>> Well, Jesus mows my lawn every Thursday, so being a grocery store
>>>>>> clerk wouldn't seem to be beneath him.
>>>>> You wish.
>>>> A grocery store clerk would be a step up, wouldn't it?
>>> Landscape companies make incredible amounts of money,
>>> at least I've heard they do on the professional level.
>> You can haggle about the price in most cases. Don't take
>> their first bid.
> Nor the first company bidding...
Jesus tried to raise the price again this year. I haggled my way
to 1/2 of the increase he proposed. :-)
>>> You tell me.
>> What?
> You were saying you thought landscapers would be stepping
> up to be grocery store clerks.
Would you rather sweat out in the summer heat mowing a lawn
or be inside a nice air-conditioned grocery store hanging out around
the fruits and nuts?
>>> As for BT
>> BT?
> Ya.
>>> Now, notice who BT thanked FIRST...
>>> Ya.
>>> God was thanked FIRST.
>> WTF are you talking about?
> It's on the guy's CD, inside... but with you being a Hank
> Williams fan, it's somewhat doubtful you know who BT is.
I'm not a Hank Wiliams fan. I don't particularly like country music.
I admit I didn't know who BT is. I did a web search and read up on
him. So what if he thanked god first? I had a co-worker thank god
when we worked together to get a program working. Does that mean
that god exists?
Bored With The Boring Again
Drink a couple of Guinnesses. ;-)
Bored With The Boring Again
<na...@For-God.net> wrote:
[===]
>Science has been around for what... only a few centuries,
>degrees and such, even less time. Can science or degrees,
>even what someone does for work, can that make or break
>the fact that God exists?
>
>No, it can't... it has NO effect.
>
>So yes, the atheists were right, I'm a grocery store clerk
>and it didn't have ANY effect on the discussion. All those
>WILD claims about people needing degrees, needing to be scientists,
>needing to be this or that... just to give "credit" to a
>discussion of God existing... it doesn't matter... God exists.
>
>God's own statements, his own words prove that he is the
>source of his creation.
>
>God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
You have never proven that this god thingy of yours exists. Until you
do that (and I may well die of old age before that happens), why
should I believe -anything- you say?
You see, before you can go any further with this god business of
yours, we will remain stuck at the level of "show me your god", and
you will remain the laughingstock of a.a. and probably the christian
groups you infest as well.
Bored With The Boring Again
But I don't. Your funny web pages don't show me square root of shit
other than the fact that you have a well-developed imagination. See,
the point is, until you show me an experiment that anyone can perform
to demonstrate the existance of this god of yours, and one whose
results can be explained -only- if you posit a god having whatever
characteristics you ascribe to it, then and only then will I give
anything further on the subject any credence. I don't think you can
do that.
>I do openly state that I believe him, and have no problem
>with putting up a site saying such... I just don't want
>profit from him being right. God is the one that was right,
>HE freely gave the scriptures, and he's the creator.
>
>When I go to be judged, I don't want to be in a position
>where I have to explain why I'd profit from something
>that others should have profitted from.
>
>So you see, you have NO CLAIM against the stuff as it's
>set up.
>
>I also have no quarrel with someone working for God all
>the time and being paid to do such... but that's not
>what I do... I work, and when I can, I say God was right.
>
>> In the
>> presence of people who might actually pay him money, I'll bet he is
>> able to "maintain". (although it might be a great effort for him)
>
>ha ha ha...
>
>90% of the population believes in some form of religion.
>
>Seenms like the claim would end up being about atheists
>trying to "maintain", not theists.
Oh bullshit. If I was shopping around for technical or engineering
services and found a link on thier page to screwy pages like the ones
you write [1], I would question first thier abilities, second thier
sanity, and then go looking elsewhere.
[1] And those Hubble telescope pictures -really- take the cake for
flat-out weirdness.
John P. Boatwright
>
> >From: "John P. Boatwright" na...@For-God.net
> >Date: 5/26/01 7:46 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <3B104E...@For-God.net>
> >
> >JulieKale wrote:
> >> Well the rest of us have these things calls standards. We like our
> >information
> >> to come from someone who knows what they're talking about. If Carl Sagan
> >saw
> >> jesus in the cloud nebula I might be impressed. But you...well that's a
> >> different thing entirely...
> >
> >ha ha ha...
> >
> >Carl Sagan is DEAD!
> >
> >Darn right you'd be impressed. :)
>
> You know what I mean. LOL.
But him and other DEAD atheists can't say much more than what
they already said. There's only two choices:
1. They're dead and were wrong.
2. They're dead and you'll never know if they were right.
Now, this isn't Pascal's wager... I'm pointing out that they
can't tell you that God was right, they're STOPPED from
being able to say such. Their ability to consider it all,
is GONE.
You in being alive, you're basing your judgement on
whether or not God exists, him being alive and your
creator, based on what some dead people said... when
they clearly could NOT say 100% that God existed or not.
The difference for me is, I'm basing it on what some
dead people said that KNEW he was there, AND the fact
that what God said, it's KNOWN to be correctly given.
In a nut shell:
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You're basing your DOUBT on LACK of knowledge from DEAD
people claiming they didn't think God could be there.
They can't change what they said, yet also can't confirm
their rejecting of God as being right.
I'm basing my KNOWING God is there on what DEAD people
said that KNEW God is there, and things God said that
MATCH what no one could have known other than God back
when it was said it... and PRESENT DAY stuff occuring
amoung LIVING people that matches what God predicted.
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This isn't Pascal's wager, it's KNOWING God is there
vs. some claims made by dead people saying they didn't
think he was there.
> >Regardless, I seriously doubt you'd believe even Sagan, you'd
> >say he was a nut case for believing God, and that otherwise, he
> >was just fine doing what he did for work.
>
> How do you know? Facts are, he had more knowledge on the subject that you do.
> And that's what it comes down to; the fact that the only person who makes these
> claims is YOU. If it's such verifiable evidence, how come you're the only one
> who's plugging it?
>
> >Instead, you should be focusing on what God said, since what
> >he said clearly shows that he knew it all, and that he is God.
>
> If you can't see this god, you have no choice but to look towards people. Even
> you, despite your claims, use mathematics and science as a reference point. You
> need these things, just like the rest of us.
I look at what God said, research it, and do what the bible
said to do: "prove all things, hold fast that which is good".
The set up is pretty simple, many people don't want God
to be there, so he gave them what they wanted... to them,
he's not there... they got what they shouldn't have wanted.
JulieKale
>From: "John P. Boatwright" na...@salad-e.com
>Date: 5/26/01 10:48 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3B1079...@salad-e.com>
>
>JulieKale wrote:
>> >Carl Sagan is DEAD!
>> >
>> >Darn right you'd be impressed. :)
>>
>> You know what I mean. LOL.
>
>But him and other DEAD atheists can't say much more than what
>they already said. There's only two choices:
>
>1. They're dead and were wrong.
>2. They're dead and you'll never know if they were right.
Point being I am still going to go to what I consider a reliable source.
>You in being alive, you're basing your judgement on
>whether or not God exists, him being alive and your
>creator, based on what some dead people said... when
>they clearly could NOT say 100% that God existed or not.
>
>The difference for me is, I'm basing it on what some
>dead people said that KNEW he was there, AND the fact
>that what God said, it's KNOWN to be correctly given.
Heh heh. John, seriously, this is our big disagreement and it always will be.
You take things and twist them into whatever you want them to be. You don't
know that the writers of the bible KNEW anything. They could have made it all
up for all you know.
>You're basing your DOUBT on LACK of knowledge from DEAD
>people claiming they didn't think God could be there.
>They can't change what they said, yet also can't confirm
>their rejecting of God as being right.
No, I am basing my doubt on sources which are far more reliable than you and
your claims that you can see biblical scenes in outerspace.
>I'm basing my KNOWING God is there on what DEAD people
>said that KNEW God is there, and things God said that
>MATCH what no one could have known other than God back
>when it was said it... and PRESENT DAY stuff occuring
>amoung LIVING people that matches what God predicted.
This is, as always, a matter of interpretation.
>Even
>> you, despite your claims, use mathematics and science as a reference point.
>You
>> need these things, just like the rest of us.
>
>I look at what God said, research it, and do what the bible
>said to do: "prove all things, hold fast that which is good".
And you are doing it with the same man made techniques that you are telling me
to reject? Sorry, but you can't have it both ways. Either I can depend on
science or I can't. Which is it?
John P. Boatwright
>
> John P. Boatwright <na...@For-God.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>
> > Elroy Willis wrote:
> >> John P. Boatwright <na...@For-God.net> wrote in alt.atheism
> >>> Elroy Willis wrote:
> >>>> John P. Boatwright (hamste...@ductape.com) wrote in alt.atheism
> >>>>> Elroy Willis wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Well, Jesus mows my lawn every Thursday, so being a grocery store
> >>>>>> clerk wouldn't seem to be beneath him.
>
> >>>>> You wish.
>
> >>>> A grocery store clerk would be a step up, wouldn't it?
>
> >>> Landscape companies make incredible amounts of money,
> >>> at least I've heard they do on the professional level.
>
> >> You can haggle about the price in most cases. Don't take
> >> their first bid.
>
> > Nor the first company bidding...
>
> Jesus tried to raise the price again this year. I haggled my way
> to 1/2 of the increase he proposed. :-)
Ya right.
> >>> You tell me.
>
> >> What?
>
> > You were saying you thought landscapers would be stepping
> > up to be grocery store clerks.
>
> Would you rather sweat out in the summer heat mowing a lawn
> or be inside a nice air-conditioned grocery store hanging out around
> the fruits and nuts?
Both have advantages.
Hmm... that's a tough one to decide.
> >>> As for BT
>
> >> BT?
>
> > Ya.
>
> >>> Now, notice who BT thanked FIRST...
>
> >>> Ya.
>
> >>> God was thanked FIRST.
>
> >> WTF are you talking about?
>
> > It's on the guy's CD, inside... but with you being a Hank
> > Williams fan, it's somewhat doubtful you know who BT is.
>
> I'm not a Hank Wiliams fan. I don't particularly like country music.
Must have confused you with someone else.
> I admit I didn't know who BT is. I did a web search and read up on
> him. So what if he thanked god first? I had a co-worker thank god
> when we worked together to get a program working. Does that mean
> that god exists?
Did you code it into the splash screen when the program starts up?
Actually, to be like BT, you'd have to put it in one of the
menu selections, just as they're going for the core results from
the program.
Anyway, God exists, see BT's CD, it's stated there plain as day.
Al Klein
posted in alt.atheism:
>John P. Boatwright <na...@For-God.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>> Now, notice who BT thanked FIRST...
>> Ya.
>> God was thanked FIRST.
>WTF are you talking about?
Nothing. Which is the same thing he always talks about.
--
Al - Unnumbered Atheist #infinity
aklein at villagenet dot com
Paul Duca
"John P. Boatwright" wrote:
> JulieKale wrote:
> >
> > >From: John D. Leckie igh...@yahoo.de
> > >Date: 5/26/01 2:20 PM Central Daylight Time
> > >Message-id: <lgvvgtg3fusabbtte...@4ax.com>
> > >
> > >So, John, all this witty stuff below basically boils down to this--
> > >you refuse to state clearly what you do for a living RIGHT NOW.
> > >
> > >Why is that?
> >
> > It's a privacy issue with him, gone overboard. He just don't want people to
> > know. That's the way he is. He'd love to find out about YOU,
>
> I've seen the "John D. Leckie" name a couple of times now,
> so it really seems a bit presumptious that you'd say that.
>
> > but doesn't want you to know about him. Kinda strange, but that
> > shouldn't suprise anyone. I will say this much though, he is not
> > a grocery store clerk.
>
> Bulloona.
>
> It's on my resume: grocery store clerk.
>
If you think so much of God and Jesus, how come THEY think so little of
you, this is the best job you can get?
Paul
John P. Boatwright
ha ha ha...
Sheeze...
===============================================
Why do theists ALWAYS have to teach atheists???
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Germs were put on the earth to do germ stuff.
Elroy Willis
> The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
>> (BTW: dumb question for Boaty: why were germs put on this Earth?)
> ha ha ha...
> Sheeze...
> ===============================================
> Why do theists ALWAYS have to teach atheists???
> ===============================================
> Germs were put on the earth to do germ stuff.
Great answer, Boaty. <cough>
Elroy Willis
> Elroy Willis wrote:
>> John P. Boatwright <na...@For-God.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>>> You were saying you thought landscapers would be stepping
>>> up to be grocery store clerks.
>> Would you rather sweat out in the summer heat mowing a lawn
>> or be inside a nice air-conditioned grocery store hanging out around
>> the fruits and nuts?
> Both have advantages.
> Hmm... that's a tough one to decide.
Which one does your god think is the best? :-)
Glenn MacEachern
"John P. Boatwright" wrote:
<snip>
>
>
> Anyway, God exists, see BT's CD, it's stated there plain as day.
Oh my...I can't be seeing this..Boaty can't be for real, seriously, he has to
be a troll..it's gone WAY too far....this has to be the dumbest statement
anybody has ever made in the history of the world...maybe I'm
exaggerating...maybe it's just that I've been gone for the weekend and forget
how things get here:P
-grm-
John P. Boatwright
>
> "John P. Boatwright" wrote:
It's on the CD, well, on the back of the little booklet
thingy in the case:
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GREAT THANKS AND GRATITUDE TO:
God for the music and synchronicity, Dominique, ...
(about 20 more lines of people he thanks)
- BT "Movement in still life"
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Now, notice who BT thanked FIRST...
Ya.
God was thanked FIRST.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
John D. Leckie
Thank you, John, for treating us to a wonderful tap-dance!
Oh yeah, you keep telling yourself this BS, John. The fact is you
don't want potential customers to know how kooky you are. As
confident as you like to SEEM about all that nonsense, you have OTHER
reasons for not revealing it openly that have NOTHING to do with
profit. Please. Read on.
"don't want to profit from God being right," indeed. That's an
interesting angle... You really need to keep telling yourself this,
don't you? Do you have any IDEA how positively WEAK that EXCUSE is?
I know you like to SAY we atheists are idiots, but come now. We are
NOT that foolish...
What about Proselytizing, John? You have such a wealth of information
there, and you completely FAIL to share the goodness of God's word
(BACKED BY SCIENCE AND GREAT ILLUSTRATIONS!) with people who get to
your website because they're looking for your services... Think of the
potential converts. It's an elementary form of directing traffic in
that direction. You would NOT be profiting from God's word, John.
You would be showing the light to so many other people!
You say that since you SPEW on usenet that it cannot be said that you
aren't openly speaking your mind. I think you know that the
percentage of people who casually use the internet who ALSO use usenet
is relatively small. Besides, the MORE people you can share this
with, the better, right? It's amazing to me that someone would have
to talk you into just one little link on your site that points to the
stuff that REALLY matters in life. Your God.
Furthermore, I have seen many, MANY private sites for small businesses
that have that cute little Jesus fish in the corner... most people
WANT you to know they are Christian because we ALL know you can TRUST
a Christian, right? Well, you can really one-up these people,
Boatwright! Forget the fish! You can show them your EVIDENCE, John!
This is such a waste of potential!
You should feel GUILTY, John, for letting your (deep-seated,
repressed, denial-laden) embarassment over your "evidence" keep you
from sharing your true feelings with people who come to your site.
Don't you WANT them to know that you're not ONLY a Christian, but one
with more powerful evidence than the average Christian?
How important, really, is your God to you? Not very, from the looks
of things. Tsk tsk.
Come, now, John, this EXCUSE does not wash with me. Not that it would
matter to you. What I think does not matter. And, as you so aptly
show here every day, what other people think does not matter to you.
Someone with your mind had better be thick-skinned. Poor guy.
BUT--
It's your GOD that you will have to deal with on THIS one, John.
Think about that. Hard. Till it hurts. You know I'm right.