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johac

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Oct 4, 2007, 1:42:19 AM10/4/07
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Puritans of the Deep South get a hand.

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Court Leaves Ala. Sex Toy Ban Intact


Oct 1, 3:57 PM (ET)

By PHILLIP RAWLS


MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - The U.S. Supreme Court declined Monday to hear a
challenge to Alabama's ban on the sale of sex toys, ending a nine-year
legal battle and sending a warning to store owners to clean off their
shelves.

An adult-store owner had asked the justices to throw out the law as an
unconstitutional intrusion into the privacy of the bedroom. But the
Supreme Court declined to hear the appeal, leaving intact a lower court
ruling that upheld the law.

Sherri Williams, owner of Pleasures stores in Huntsville and Decatur,
said she was disappointed, but plans to sue again on First Amendment
free speech grounds.

"My motto has been they are going to have to pry this vibrator from my
cold, dead hand. I refuse to give up," she said.

Alabama's anti-obscenity law, enacted in 1998, bans the distribution of
"any device designed or marketed as useful primarily for the stimulation
of human genital organs for anything of pecuniary value."

The law does not ban the possession of sex toys, and it doesn't regulate
other items, including condoms or virility drugs. Residents may legally
purchase sex toys out of state for use in Alabama, or they may buy
sexual devices in Alabama that have a "bona fide medical" purpose.

Similar laws have been upheld in Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas, but
struck down in Louisiana, Kansas and Colorado, said Mark Lopez, a former
American Civil Liberties Union attorney in New York who worked on the
Alabama case until recently.

The Alabama attorney general's office immediately notified county
district attorneys, who are responsible for enforcement. The attorney
general planned to ask a federal judge to lift an injunction preventing
the law from being enforced.

Removing the injunction should take a couple of days, said Chris Bence,
spokesman for Attorney General Troy King.

Store owners should be aware that the law takes effect once the
injunction is lifted, Bence said.

Williams had asked the Supreme Court to review a decision by the 11th
U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that found Alabama's law was not affected
by a U.S. Supreme Court decision knocking down Texas' sodomy law.

The Texas sodomy law involved private conduct, while the Alabama law
regulated commercial activity, the appeals court judges said. Public
morality was an insufficient government interest in the Texas case but
was sufficient in the Alabama case, they said.

Williams called the Supreme Court's decision not to review the law
"further evidence of religion in politics."

"The U.S. Supreme Court said states can legislate morality," she said.
"I don't feel it is fair to the people who do not agree with the
morality of the Legislature."

She also predicted future court battles over which sexual devices are
legal to sell as medical devices.

Lopez said adult stores may be cautious about pushing the issue of what
constitutes a medical device because the law has strong penalties: Up to
a year in jail and a $10,000 fine for a first offense. A second offense
carries a prison sentence of one to 10 years.

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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071001/D8S0L3FO1.html
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white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.

Geoff

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Oct 4, 2007, 10:37:40 AM10/4/07
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"johac" <jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-93FCB...@news.giganews.com...

> The law does not ban the possession of sex toys, and it doesn't regulate
> other items, including condoms or virility drugs. Residents may legally
> purchase sex toys out of state for use in Alabama, or they may buy
> sexual devices in Alabama that have a "bona fide medical" purpose.

It's a back massager, I swear!

> Similar laws have been upheld in Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas, but
> struck down in Louisiana, Kansas and Colorado, said Mark Lopez, a former
> American Civil Liberties Union attorney in New York who worked on the
> Alabama case until recently.

Well I can say for sure the law isn't being enforced here in Atlanta. There
are literally hundreds of places that sell any manner of things to get your
rocks off. Frankly, I never heard that there was such a law or that it was
upheld.

> The Alabama attorney general's office immediately notified county
> district attorneys, who are responsible for enforcement. The attorney
> general planned to ask a federal judge to lift an injunction preventing
> the law from being enforced.

They don't call it Talibama for nothin'!

> Williams called the Supreme Court's decision not to review the law
> "further evidence of religion in politics."

Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Alito...fuggin Catlicks!

So how is it decided if they are going to hear a case? Majority vote?

> Lopez said adult stores may be cautious about pushing the issue of what
> constitutes a medical device because the law has strong penalties: Up to
> a year in jail and a $10,000 fine for a first offense. A second offense
> carries a prison sentence of one to 10 years.

YGBFKM!


Mark K. Bilbo

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Oct 4, 2007, 10:42:03 AM10/4/07
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:42:19 -0700, johac wrote:


> Alabama's anti-obscenity law, enacted in 1998, bans the distribution of
> "any device designed or marketed as useful primarily for the stimulation
> of human genital organs for anything of pecuniary value."

The line for cutting off the hands of teenage boys forms to the right...

--
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we will all be!"

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Matt Silberstein

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Oct 4, 2007, 2:33:35 PM10/4/07
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:42:19 -0700, in alt.atheism , johac
<jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net> in
<jhachmann-93FCB...@news.giganews.com> wrote:

>Puritans of the Deep South get a hand.
>
>---
>Court Leaves Ala. Sex Toy Ban Intact
>
>
>Oct 1, 3:57 PM (ET)
>
>By PHILLIP RAWLS
>
>
>MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - The U.S. Supreme Court declined Monday to hear a
>challenge to Alabama's ban on the sale of sex toys, ending a nine-year
>legal battle and sending a warning to store owners to clean off their
>shelves.

This is an attack on Roe and an attempt to greatly increase government
power. The purpose of these laws is to challenge the legal
underpinning of Roe, the Griswold case. In Griswold the state of CT
has banned the sale of contraceptives to unmarried people. The Court
ruled that there are areas of our lives so personal that the
government can't get involved. The Roe logic stems from Griswold.
These sex toy laws are specifically aimed at that by claiming that
there are no areas of our lives so personal that the government can't
get involved.

--
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Hatter

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Oct 4, 2007, 3:03:04 PM10/4/07
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On Oct 4, 1:42 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Puritans of the Deep South get a hand.
>.

> "My motto has been they are going to have to pry this vibrator from my
> cold, dead hand. I refuse to give up," she said.
>

Wouldn't that be from my warm, trembling, ecstatic hand?

But in 2006
Atlanta had:
19,557 violent crimes,
1,649 were forcible rapes
382 were murders

The stupid fucking insane theist solution...stop selling vibrators.

Hatter


Christopher A.Lee

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Oct 4, 2007, 3:37:08 PM10/4/07
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On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:03:04 -0700, Hatter <Hatt...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Oct 4, 1:42 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Puritans of the Deep South get a hand.
>>.
>
>> "My motto has been they are going to have to pry this vibrator from my
>> cold, dead hand. I refuse to give up," she said.
>>
>Wouldn't that be from my warm, trembling, ecstatic hand?

No, her warm, wet pussy.

johac

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Oct 5, 2007, 12:56:52 AM10/5/07
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In article <1191524584.9...@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
Hatter <Hatt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 4, 1:42 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Puritans of the Deep South get a hand.
> >.
>
> > "My motto has been they are going to have to pry this vibrator from my
> > cold, dead hand. I refuse to give up," she said.
> >
> Wouldn't that be from my warm, trembling, ecstatic hand?

Yep. :-)


>
> But in 2006
> Atlanta had:
> 19,557 violent crimes,
> 1,649 were forcible rapes
> 382 were murders
>
> The stupid fucking insane theist solution...stop selling vibrators.

Idiots.
>
> Hatter

johac

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Oct 5, 2007, 12:59:17 AM10/5/07
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In article <ubcag3lkpsb3dtvdf...@4ax.com>,
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:42:19 -0700, in alt.atheism , johac
> <jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net> in
> <jhachmann-93FCB...@news.giganews.com> wrote:
>
> >Puritans of the Deep South get a hand.
> >
> >---
> >Court Leaves Ala. Sex Toy Ban Intact
> >
> >
> >Oct 1, 3:57 PM (ET)
> >
> >By PHILLIP RAWLS
> >
> >
> >MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - The U.S. Supreme Court declined Monday to hear a
> >challenge to Alabama's ban on the sale of sex toys, ending a nine-year
> >legal battle and sending a warning to store owners to clean off their
> >shelves.
>
> This is an attack on Roe and an attempt to greatly increase government
> power. The purpose of these laws is to challenge the legal
> underpinning of Roe, the Griswold case. In Griswold the state of CT
> has banned the sale of contraceptives to unmarried people. The Court
> ruled that there are areas of our lives so personal that the
> government can't get involved. The Roe logic stems from Griswold.
> These sex toy laws are specifically aimed at that by claiming that
> there are no areas of our lives so personal that the government can't
> get involved.

True, although I think it's more than that. The old white male power
structure wants to control anything to do with sex or reproduction so it
can control women and keep them in their place. Just like they claim
their Babble says.

johac

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Oct 5, 2007, 1:02:26 AM10/5/07
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In article <TsidnWoPGMImZpna...@giganews.com>,

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

> On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:42:19 -0700, johac wrote:
>
>
> > Alabama's anti-obscenity law, enacted in 1998, bans the distribution of
> > "any device designed or marketed as useful primarily for the stimulation
> > of human genital organs for anything of pecuniary value."
>
> The line for cutting off the hands of teenage boys forms to the right...

If that were so, in a few years, Alabama would have to change its
nickname to "Lefty".

johac

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Oct 5, 2007, 1:07:42 AM10/5/07
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In article <k5SdndV_ctQmZ5na...@giganews.com>,
"Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:

> "johac" <jhac...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:jhachmann-93FCB...@news.giganews.com...
>
> > The law does not ban the possession of sex toys, and it doesn't regulate
> > other items, including condoms or virility drugs. Residents may legally
> > purchase sex toys out of state for use in Alabama, or they may buy
> > sexual devices in Alabama that have a "bona fide medical" purpose.
>
> It's a back massager, I swear!

Sure.

>
> > Similar laws have been upheld in Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas, but
> > struck down in Louisiana, Kansas and Colorado, said Mark Lopez, a former
> > American Civil Liberties Union attorney in New York who worked on the
> > Alabama case until recently.
>
> Well I can say for sure the law isn't being enforced here in Atlanta. There
> are literally hundreds of places that sell any manner of things to get your
> rocks off. Frankly, I never heard that there was such a law or that it was
> upheld.

You can order those things online. I Don't know how they are going to
stop it.


>
> > The Alabama attorney general's office immediately notified county
> > district attorneys, who are responsible for enforcement. The attorney
> > general planned to ask a federal judge to lift an injunction preventing
> > the law from being enforced.
>
> They don't call it Talibama for nothin'!
>

Little Iran.

> > Williams called the Supreme Court's decision not to review the law
> > "further evidence of religion in politics."
>
> Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Alito...fuggin Catlicks!

And Kennedy too.


>
> So how is it decided if they are going to hear a case? Majority vote?

I presume so.


>
> > Lopez said adult stores may be cautious about pushing the issue of what
> > constitutes a medical device because the law has strong penalties: Up to
> > a year in jail and a $10,000 fine for a first offense. A second offense
> > carries a prison sentence of one to 10 years.
>
> YGBFKM!

What's the penalty for the third offense? Death?

Robibnikoff

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Oct 5, 2007, 9:21:17 AM10/5/07
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"Christopher A.Lee" <ca...@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:96gag393llstoqh79...@4ax.com...

Charming :P
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557


Geoff

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Oct 5, 2007, 9:10:59 PM10/5/07
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Let me assure you that the article is wrong. Vibrators (and ben-wa balls!)
are readily available here in Atlanta.


Hatter

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Oct 6, 2007, 11:18:04 PM10/6/07
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Sorry I said atlanta...grrr, I meant Alabama

Brian Westley

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Oct 9, 2007, 12:36:43 PM10/9/07
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I actually saw a segment on how Alabama stores handle this:

Vibrators are massagers

dildos are educational, to demonstrate how to put on a condom
(also elected to the Alabama House)

I suppose ben-wa balls could be authentic civil war musket ammo reproductions.
The South shall rise again...

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Merlyn LeRoy

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