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" I’m going to kill our baby ": a father’s worst nightmare
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J
Mar 26, 2012, 3:03:34 PM3/26/12
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http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/im-going-to-kill-our-baby-a-fathers-worst-nightmare
BY KRISTI BURTON BROWN
March 20, 2012 (LiveActionNews.org) - I can’t recall if I first heard
about him through an e-mail or a phone call. But I know that when I
spoke to him on the phone, he was desperate. A normal working father who
already had three other children, he wanted to know if there was
something he could do to stop his wife from killing one of their children.
Now, if I stopped here with the details of my story and let you ponder
the paragraph above, you would understandably be horrified. Why would a
mother want to kill her youngest child? Why would the father have to
call for outside help to stop her? Do nightmares like this actually happen?
In the abortion issue, men are often treated as faceless, voiceless
individuals.
Yes. They do. All the time. But the detail I left out is that this
father’s youngest child was unborn. Although he and his wife had agreed
to have this child – had both wanted this child – she changed her mind
one day. And there was nothing he could do about it. Until a baby is
born, a father has exactly no say and no rights in whether that child
lives or dies.
Though I did what I could to help this father (I had a wonderful
counselor talk to his wife and got a great attorney to help him), in the
end, his baby was killed anyway. In a heartbreaking turn of events, the
mother canceled her first abortion appointment only to schedule another
one later on. The baby never had a chance. This situation remains one of
the most horrible and discouraging things I have ever been involved with
in my life.
As a mere outsider, I experienced such a feeling of helplessness. I
can’t imagine what the father experienced. When I heard that the baby
had been aborted, I felt responsible. Clearly, I hadn’t said the right
thing. Clearly, I hadn’t done enough. What must the father have been
going through when his wife broke the news to him? Though it’s been a
few years since this occurred, I’m sure the father will never get over
the intentional death of his child, caused by the child’s own mother and
his own wife. Can a more horrible thing happen to a loving father?
This father would never hold his tiny baby in his strong arms for the
very first time. He would never watch her – if she was a daughter –
dance in the grass with flowery shoes and a flowing dress. He would
never cheer him on – if he was a son – in the final football game of his
high school career. This father’s only memory of his child would be how
hard he had fought to save its precious life.
I share this story (with changed and omitted details to protect the
parties involved) as an illustration of the cruel silencing of men that
is taking place in our society. Laura Peredo and Nancy Flanders have
already written about why men should have a right to speak out for the
lives of children, just as women do. How can the pro-choice side command
men to shut their mouths when it comes to saving babies, but demand that
they pay for the methods women use to kill those same babies?
In a cruel twist of fate caused by an attempt to elevate women to an
“equal” place in society, the baldfaced lies of “it’s my body” and “it’s
my choice” have silenced men. Legally speaking, men have zero rights.
Fathers who want to protect their children have had their hands tied by
the law.
A judge heard the case of the father who was trying to stop his wife
from killing their child. And though I am told the judge wanted to rule
for the father – you could see it in his eyes – he found no legal basis
for doing so. The child’s mother was free to take this precious new
life, at her whim and pleasure. (Now, I do think that a judge could find
otherwise. In fact, different fathers bringing cases may be one of the
ways to change the law concerning fathers’ rights.)
Please, fathers, don’t give up. While I can’t make specific
recommendations on individual cases that I’m not familiar with, as an
attorney, I would say that fathers in general should consider
challenging the law if their wife/girlfriend/child’s mother wants to
have an abortion. Her “right” to kill your child can be challenged in
court. Speak out for your child. We can never be sure when a father will
get in front of the right judge who is willing to change the horrible
state of the law when it comes to fathers’ rights.
The baby is not the mother’s body. He or she is a unique individual. The
baby’s life should not hang in the balance of the mother’s “choice.” If
a father wants to stand up for the right of his child to live, his voice
should be welcomed and listened to. He should be given the right to care
for that child himself, if he is willing.
Reprinted with permission from LiveActionNews.org
--
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com
BroilJAB
Mar 26, 2012, 3:59:52 PM3/26/12
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No woman should be able to murder
her child and the father must be
consulted.
her child and the father must be
consulted.
Davej
Mar 26, 2012, 4:01:53 PM3/26/12
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On Mar 26, 2:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/im-going-to-kill-our-baby-a-fathers-...
>
In other words -- women are property and should do as they are told.
Men are in charge.
> http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/im-going-to-kill-our-baby-a-fathers-...
>
In other words -- women are property and should do as they are told.
Men are in charge.
BroilJAB
Mar 27, 2012, 1:12:00 AM3/27/12
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DaveJ actually claimed,
Women are capable of producing a baby
WITHOUT a man.
BroilJAB laughed,
In fact, NO woman can. And the man's
instrumental interest MUST be consulted.
Women are capable of producing a baby
WITHOUT a man.
BroilJAB laughed,
In fact, NO woman can. And the man's
instrumental interest MUST be consulted.
W.T.S.
Mar 27, 2012, 7:04:40 AM3/27/12
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In article <5gn43b....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Liar.com says...
>
> http://www.LieSiteLies.com/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>
> BY KRISTI BURTON BROWN, pro-liar, anti-choice, forced-birther loon.
>
> Reprinted with permission from LieActionLies.fug
>
<snip> Spew of fucked up nonsense, why repost that sort of shit? </snip>
>
Summary: Woman have a right to abort, anywhere, anytime, under any
circumstances. Men have no say, except to support abortion. Men are
always joyful and grateful that the woman aborts. Are there any
questions?
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
> http://www.LieSiteLies.com/Lies/Disinformation/Propaganda/
>
> BY KRISTI BURTON BROWN, pro-liar, anti-choice, forced-birther loon.
>
> Reprinted with permission from LieActionLies.fug
>
<snip> Spew of fucked up nonsense, why repost that sort of shit? </snip>
>
Summary: Woman have a right to abort, anywhere, anytime, under any
circumstances. Men have no say, except to support abortion. Men are
always joyful and grateful that the woman aborts. Are there any
questions?
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs.
Live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
John Baker
Mar 27, 2012, 10:35:50 AM3/27/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:03:34 -0700, J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
It would likely have been *your* father's fondest wish.
It would likely have been *your* father's fondest wish.
Dino
Mar 27, 2012, 10:44:46 AM3/27/12
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Men are nothing except sperm donors. That's all.
EXCEPT...
When she delivers.
Then he becomes a walking pay check. That's all.
elizabeth
Mar 28, 2012, 7:56:26 PM3/28/12
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elizabeth
Mar 28, 2012, 7:59:19 PM3/28/12
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On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> jdyou...@ymail.com
sbnip lifesite lies
ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege. We had a domestic murder
here in SF where the perp insisted that he killed her because she said
she was aborting his baby ... she was not pregnant and he had been
sent to DV counseling . .but our DA at the time, Hallinan, was himself
a wife beater. Our current sheriff is figthing DV and he is guilty as
shit.
> jdyou...@ymail.com
sbnip lifesite lies
ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege. We had a domestic murder
here in SF where the perp insisted that he killed her because she said
she was aborting his baby ... she was not pregnant and he had been
sent to DV counseling . .but our DA at the time, Hallinan, was himself
a wife beater. Our current sheriff is figthing DV and he is guilty as
shit.
Dino
Mar 28, 2012, 8:34:33 PM3/28/12
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Too bad you couldn't even make a good whore.
Dino
Mar 28, 2012, 9:51:17 PM3/28/12
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On Mar 28, 7:59 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
> sbnip lifesite lies
> ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
> Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege.
Only to the loons. It's not that common and it's not "most likely".
> On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
> sbnip lifesite lies
> ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
> Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege.
Damn you are stupid!!!
....
Snipping your drama.
elizabeth
Mar 29, 2012, 7:36:21 PM3/29/12
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On Mar 28, 5:34 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 7:56 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 27, 7:44 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 26, 4:01 pm, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 26, 2:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/im-going-to-kill-our-baby-a-fathers-...
>
> > > > In other words -- women are property and should do as they are told.
> > > > Men are in charge.
>
> > > No, you got it wrong.
> > > Men are nothing except sperm donors. That's all.
> > > EXCEPT...
> > > When she delivers.
> > > Then he becomes a walking pay check. That's all.
Oh, my .. .
> On Mar 28, 7:56 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 27, 7:44 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 26, 4:01 pm, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 26, 2:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/im-going-to-kill-our-baby-a-fathers-...
>
> > > > In other words -- women are property and should do as they are told.
> > > > Men are in charge.
>
> > > No, you got it wrong.
> > > Men are nothing except sperm donors. That's all.
> > > EXCEPT...
> > > When she delivers.
> > > Then he becomes a walking pay check. That's all.
> > And you're not even a walking paycheck!
>
> Correct, I am a father and a husband!
who would fuck you would fuck a wildebeast.
> Too bad you couldn't even make a good whore.- Hide quoted text -
No, I'm not like your daughter at all.
elizabeth
Mar 29, 2012, 7:42:34 PM3/29/12
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On Mar 28, 6:51 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 7:59 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:> jdyou...@ymail.com
Oh, my . ..
> On Mar 28, 7:59 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:> jdyou...@ymail.com
> > sbnip lifesite lies
> > ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
> > Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege.
>
> Only to the loons. It's not that common and it's not "most likely".
> Damn you are stupid!!!
Uh, the crime data is readily available about homicide stats on
> > ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
> > Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege.
>
> Only to the loons. It's not that common and it's not "most likely".
> Damn you are stupid!!!
pregnant women. It was posted already, several times, in threads
you've been on, Heishman.
So I googled, took me less than a second.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45626-2005Feb22.html
http://www.now.org/issues/violence/043003pregnant.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117620&page=1
This one is interesting, it shows a high risk of suicide among women
who have given birth.
http://blog.chron.com/momhouston/2011/10/homicide-and-suicide-leading-causes-of-death-for-pregnant-postpartum-women/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_pregnant_women
http://www.jrrobertssecurity.com/security-news/security-crime-news0043.htm
http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2003.029868
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/411212
Is that enough for you? Now, read them, sound out the words you don't
understand and look them up.
And get back when you admit you once again were proven wrong,
Heishman.
> ....
>
> Snipping your drama.
Dino
Mar 30, 2012, 12:30:09 AM3/30/12
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On Mar 29, 7:42 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 6:51 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 28, 7:59 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
> Oh, my . ..
>
> > > sbnip lifesite lies
> > > ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
> > > Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege.
>
> > Only to the loons. It's not that common and it's not "most likely".
> > Damn you are stupid!!!
>
> Uh, the crime data is readily available about homicide stats on
> pregnant women. It was posted already, several times, in threads
> you've been on, Heishman.
> So I googled, took me less than a second.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45626-2005Feb22.htmlhttp://www.now.org/issues/violence/043003pregnant.htmlhttp://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117620&page=1
> On Mar 28, 6:51 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 28, 7:59 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
> Oh, my . ..
>
> > > sbnip lifesite lies
> > > ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
> > > Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege.
>
> > Only to the loons. It's not that common and it's not "most likely".
> > Damn you are stupid!!!
>
> Uh, the crime data is readily available about homicide stats on
> pregnant women. It was posted already, several times, in threads
> you've been on, Heishman.
> This one is interesting, it shows a high risk of suicide among women
> who have given birth.http://blog.chron.com/momhouston/2011/10/homicide-and-suicide-leading...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_pregnant_womenhttp://www.jrrobertssecurity.com/security-news/security-crime-news004...http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2003.029868http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/411212
>
> Is that enough for you? Now, read them, sound out the words you don't
> understand and look them up.
>
> And get back when you admit you once again were proven wrong,
> Heishman.
Not one single source you posted proves that "men are most likely to
> Is that enough for you? Now, read them, sound out the words you don't
> understand and look them up.
>
> And get back when you admit you once again were proven wrong,
> Heishman.
kill a woman when she's pregnant", in fact, they don't even state
that.
Just more of your drama and exaggeration.
Not the first time you've been wrong and certainly will not be the
last.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > ....
>
> > Snipping your drama.
Dino
Mar 30, 2012, 12:31:30 AM3/30/12
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On Mar 29, 7:36 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 5:34 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 28, 7:56 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 27, 7:44 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 26, 4:01 pm, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mar 26, 2:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/im-going-to-kill-our-baby-a-fathers-...
>
> > > > > In other words -- women are property and should do as they are told.
> > > > > Men are in charge.
>
> > > > No, you got it wrong.
> > > > Men are nothing except sperm donors. That's all.
> > > > EXCEPT...
> > > > When she delivers.
> > > > Then he becomes a walking pay check. That's all.
>
> Oh, my .. .
Oh my...Frantes desperate for attention again.
> On Mar 28, 5:34 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 28, 7:56 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 27, 7:44 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 26, 4:01 pm, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Mar 26, 2:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/im-going-to-kill-our-baby-a-fathers-...
>
> > > > > In other words -- women are property and should do as they are told.
> > > > > Men are in charge.
>
> > > > No, you got it wrong.
> > > > Men are nothing except sperm donors. That's all.
> > > > EXCEPT...
> > > > When she delivers.
> > > > Then he becomes a walking pay check. That's all.
>
> Oh, my .. .
>
> > > And you're not even a walking paycheck!
>
> > Correct, I am a father and a husband!
>
> So you don't get a paycheck? And have you gotten a DNA test? A woman
> who would fuck you would fuck a wildebeast.
>
> > Too bad you couldn't even make a good whore.- Hide quoted text -
>
> No, I'm not like your daughter at all.
to try to attack other people who are not even involved.
Typical for scum like you.
Obviously the fact that you couldn't make a good whore for sailors on
shore vacation after having a lot to drink, bothers you.
<snicker>
SkyEyes
Mar 30, 2012, 12:41:18 AM3/30/12
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On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/im-going-to-kill-our-baby-a-fathers-...
>
> http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/im-going-to-kill-our-baby-a-fathers-...
>
> BY KRISTI BURTON BROWN
>
> March 20, 2012 (LiveActionNews.org) - I can’t recall if I first heard
> about him through an e-mail or a phone call. But I know that when I
> spoke to him on the phone, he was desperate. A normal working father who
> already had three other children, he wanted to know if there was
> something he could do to stop his wife from killing one of their children.
No, she wanted an abortion. Not the same thing as "killing one of
>
> March 20, 2012 (LiveActionNews.org) - I can’t recall if I first heard
> about him through an e-mail or a phone call. But I know that when I
> spoke to him on the phone, he was desperate. A normal working father who
> already had three other children, he wanted to know if there was
> something he could do to stop his wife from killing one of their children.
their children."
>
> Now, if I stopped here with the details of my story and let you ponder
> the paragraph above, you would understandably be horrified. Why would a
> mother want to kill her youngest child? Why would the father have to
> call for outside help to stop her? Do nightmares like this actually happen?
>
> In the abortion issue, men are often treated as faceless, voiceless
> individuals.
Yeah: that's because they don't carry the baby, have to face the
>
> Now, if I stopped here with the details of my story and let you ponder
> the paragraph above, you would understandably be horrified. Why would a
> mother want to kill her youngest child? Why would the father have to
> call for outside help to stop her? Do nightmares like this actually happen?
>
> In the abortion issue, men are often treated as faceless, voiceless
> individuals.
health consequences thereof, or endure a birth.
When men can push something the size of a water melon out of an
opening the size of a lemon, they'll get a vote on abortion. Until
then, it isn't any man's business unless a particular woman chooses to
involve him.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
SkyEyes
Mar 30, 2012, 12:44:01 AM3/30/12
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On Mar 28, 6:51 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
of death for pregnant women. The statistics are right out there,
Google them if you don't believe Elizabeth.
Dino
Mar 30, 2012, 7:10:08 AM3/30/12
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On Mar 30, 12:44 am, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mar 28, 6:51 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 28, 7:59 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
> > > sbnip lifesite lies
> > > ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
> > > Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege.
>
> > Only to the loons. It's not that common and it's not "most likely".
> > Damn you are stupid!!!
>
> Actually, homicide by the father of her baby is the most common cause
> of death for pregnant women.
Now, with that wording, I can believe that. BUT...the way loonie
> On Mar 28, 6:51 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 28, 7:59 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
> > > sbnip lifesite lies
> > > ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
> > > Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege.
>
> > Only to the loons. It's not that common and it's not "most likely".
> > Damn you are stupid!!!
>
> Actually, homicide by the father of her baby is the most common cause
> of death for pregnant women.
Elizabeth worded it, no.
I doubt you will see the difference in the wording and meaning, but it
is different between the two of you.
>The statistics are right out there,
> Google them if you don't believe Elizabeth.
lefties will ignore each other when one lies, so I learned to not
expect lefties to
hold each other up to the same standards they hold everyone else up
too.
elizabeth
Mar 31, 2012, 7:32:21 PM3/31/12
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On Mar 29, 9:30 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 7:42 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 28, 6:51 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 28, 7:59 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:> jdyou...@ymail.com
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> > Oh, my . ..
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> > > > sbnip lifesite lies
> > > > ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
> > > > Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege.
Care to retract? Or didn't you understand the point?
> On Mar 29, 7:42 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 28, 6:51 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 28, 7:59 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:> jdyou...@ymail.com
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> > Oh, my . ..
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> > > > sbnip lifesite lies
> > > > ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
> > > > Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege.
> > > Only to the loons. It's not that common and it's not "most likely".
> > > Damn you are stupid!!!
>
> > Uh, the crime data is readily available about homicide stats on
> > pregnant women. It was posted already, several times, in threads
> > you've been on, Heishman.
> > This one is interesting, it shows a high risk of suicide among women
> > who have given birth.http://blog.chron.com/momhouston/2011/10/homicide-and-suicide-leading...
Read them and provide any critiques.
> > who have given birth.http://blog.chron.com/momhouston/2011/10/homicide-and-suicide-leading...
> > Is that enough for you? Now, read them, sound out the words you don't
> > understand and look them up.
>
> > And get back when you admit you once again were proven wrong,
> > Heishman.
>
> Not one single source you posted proves that "men are most likely to
> kill a woman when she's pregnant", in fact, they don't even state
> that.
or who has studied criminal justice knows that in America, women are
most likely killed by intimate partners. You didn't know that? How
odd. What hasn't been spoken about was how many of those murders
occur during pregnancy, and as the cites relate, we don't have really
accurate stats because of differing reporting rules. Women are killed
when they are leaving or have recently left abusers. And so on.
Heishman, if all you can do is rewrite what a person says and then
claim they are wrong, when you don't even bother to read and
comprehend the evidence presented, well, that's why you should have
killed yourself a long time ago for the good of your family, your
community, your nation, and the world.
> Just more of your drama and exaggeration.
> Not the first time you've been wrong and certainly will not be the
> last.
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elizabeth
Mar 31, 2012, 7:36:16 PM3/31/12
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didn't, he either doesn't understand and rewrites things wrong or he's
deliberately misleading with strawmen and the like.
elizabeth
Mar 31, 2012, 7:35:23 PM3/31/12
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On Mar 29, 9:31 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 7:36 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 28, 5:34 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 28, 7:56 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 27, 7:44 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Mar 26, 4:01 pm, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Mar 26, 2:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > >http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/im-going-to-kill-our-baby-a-fathers-...
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> > > > > > In other words -- women are property and should do as they are told.
> > > > > > Men are in charge.
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> > > > > No, you got it wrong.
> > > > > Men are nothing except sperm donors. That's all.
> > > > > EXCEPT...
> > > > > When she delivers.
> > > > > Then he becomes a walking pay check. That's all.
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> > Oh, my .. .
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> Oh my...Frantes desperate for attention again.
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> > > > And you're not even a walking paycheck!
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> > > Correct, I am a father and a husband!
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> > So you don't get a paycheck? And have you gotten a DNA test? A woman
> > who would fuck you would fuck a wildebeast.
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So you admit your daughter is a whore?
> On Mar 29, 7:36 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 28, 5:34 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 28, 7:56 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 27, 7:44 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Mar 26, 4:01 pm, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Mar 26, 2:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > >http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/im-going-to-kill-our-baby-a-fathers-...
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> > > > > > In other words -- women are property and should do as they are told.
> > > > > > Men are in charge.
>
> > > > > No, you got it wrong.
> > > > > Men are nothing except sperm donors. That's all.
> > > > > EXCEPT...
> > > > > When she delivers.
> > > > > Then he becomes a walking pay check. That's all.
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> > Oh, my .. .
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> Oh my...Frantes desperate for attention again.
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> > > > And you're not even a walking paycheck!
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> > > Correct, I am a father and a husband!
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> > So you don't get a paycheck? And have you gotten a DNA test? A woman
> > who would fuck you would fuck a wildebeast.
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> > > Too bad you couldn't even make a good whore.- Hide quoted text -
> > No, I'm not like your daughter at all.
>
> Aww...can't keep it to just between us.
yourselves??????????
> Like most low lifes, you have
> to try to attack other people who are not even involved.
So, you say that you're just a walking wallet? Because you implied
that all women see all men like that. Care to be a bit more
specific? And did you ever pay child support to your first wife?
> Typical for scum like you.
> Obviously the fact that you couldn't make a good whore for sailors on
> shore vacation after having a lot to drink, bothers you.
sound like that family on Dr Phil the other day .. . daddy sold his
daughter to his friends . .. . ..
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elizabeth
Mar 31, 2012, 7:42:33 PM3/31/12
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On Mar 30, 4:10 am, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 12:44 am, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
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> > On Mar 28, 6:51 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 28, 7:59 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:> jdyou...@ymail.com
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> > > > sbnip lifesite lies
> > > > ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
> > > > Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege.
So, Heishman is getting picky about words. BTW, when are you going to
> On Mar 30, 12:44 am, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
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> > On Mar 28, 6:51 pm, Dino <whate...@homemail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 28, 7:59 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 26, 12:03 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
> > > > sbnip lifesite lies
> > > > ya know, men are most likely to kill a woman when she's pregnant, like
> > > > Laci Peterson, and this is common knowlege.
present your evidence you have, and how you got it, about your
constant allegations about my mental health and your libel about me
having a criminal past?
> > > Only to the loons. It's not that common and it's not "most likely".
> > > Damn you are stupid!!!
>
> > Actually, homicide by the father of her baby is the most common cause
> > of death for pregnant women.
>
> Now, with that wording, I can believe that. BUT...the way loonie
> Elizabeth worded it, no.
thanks for admitting you were wrong, and that your attack was on me,
not the facts, and you didn't bother to read any of them.
> I doubt you will see the difference in the wording and meaning, but it
> is different between the two of you.
putridity, Oopsey. So, you going to admit she's rignt about her other
posts that you've attacked?
> >The statistics are right out there,
> > Google them if you don't believe Elizabeth.
>
> You can't believe a word she says, she lies so much.
allegations that I have a criminal record? And since you lie about
who we all know you are, Heishman, do you really think you crying
someone is a liar has any impact on anyone in the ng?
But again, you
> lefties will ignore each other when one lies, so I learned to not
> expect lefties to
> hold each other up to the same standards they hold everyone else up
> too.
my wording . .. like some didn't like your wording where you called
yourself a combat soldier . .. but then insist that since us lefties
all stick together, she is still a lyin'librul . .. wow . .. if you
were saved from terrorists by the Israeli Army, would you yap about
how Hitler was right about the Jewish Problem?
SkyEyes
Apr 1, 2012, 2:05:40 AM4/1/12
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just doesn't have a high-octane engine under his hood. All he knows
how to do is ad hominems and dime-store psychology.
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