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Aug 10, 2003, 3:39:39 PM8/10/03
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> > > > 2 Centuries Later, a Moment for Indians to Retell the Past
> > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/15/national/15LEWI.html?pagewanted=all&position=
> > > > By TIMOTHY EGAN
> > > > Those looking to find a link to Indians whose nations Lewis and Clark
> > > > passed through need only look at the reservations along the voyagers'
> > > > trail.
> > >
> > > Abuse Charges Hit Reservation
> > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1154-2003Jun1.html
> > > Church-Run Schools Cited In Wide-Ranging Lawsuit
> > > By Sharon Waxman, Page A01
> > > ROSEBUD RESERVATION, S.D. -- The day the Rev. Kenneth Walleman came
> > > to the front door, Lloyd "Sonny" One Star went to get his gun.
> > >
> > > Looking Out for the Lakota
> > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63039-2003Jun15.html
> > > Page A22
> > > I read with great sorrow Sharon Waxman's June 2 front-page article
> > > about allegations of physical and sexual abuse of Native Americans
> > > attending schools in South Dakota. These allegations, dating back 30
> > > to 50 years, are of great concern to the Wisconsin Province of the
> > > Society of Jesus, which operated some of the schools mentioned.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > OT: Forgotten Founders
> > > > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=18510aff.0212130217.34047bba%40posting.google.com
> > > >
> > > > and thread
> >
> > The Journey That Changed America
> > http://www.time.com/time/2002/lewis_clark/lessay.html
> > When they launched their wooden boats up the Missouri and into the
> > wilderness, Lewis and Clark were charting the future of America. Two
> > hundred years later, at a time when the U.S. again faces great
> > unknowns, their daring journey con tinues to offer lessons about how
> > America can find its way in the world

The Land of Lewis and Clark
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/10/opinion/10SUN1.html
The chronicles of these two men should be treated as more than dead
historical documents. In the right hands, they could be a blueprint
for the future.

Lewis Clark
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Clark&as_epq=Meriwether%20Lewis&safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&lr=&num=100&as_scoring=d&hl=en

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&scoring=d&q=Clark+%22Meriwether+Lewis%22&sa=N&tab=gw

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>
> Dances with Wolves (1990)
> http://us.imdb.com/Title?0099348
> Lt. John Dunbar is dubbed a hero after he accidentally leads Union
> troops to a victory during the Civil War. He requests a position on
> the western frontier, but finds it deserted. He soon finds out he is
> not alone, but meets a wolf he dubs "Two-socks" and a curious Indian
> tribe. Dunbar quickly makes friends with the tribe, and discovers a
> white woman who was raised by the Indians. He gradually earns the
> respect of these native people, and sheds his white-man's ways.
>
> Having been sent to a remote outpost in the wilderness of the Dakota
> territory during the American Civil War, Lieutenant John Dunbar
> encounters, and is eventually accepted into, the local Sioux tribe. He
> is known as "Dances with Wolves" to them and as time passes he becomes
> enamoured by the beautiful "Stands With a Fist". Not soon after, the
> frontier becomes the frontier no more, and as the army advances on the
> plains, John must make a decision that will not only affect him, but
> also the lives of the natives he now calls his people.
>
> Dances With Wolves
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0449134482/
> by Michael Blake
>
> "500 Nations" (1995) (mini)
> http://us.imdb.com/Title?0111868
> 500 Nations is an eight part documentary which explores the history of
> the indigenous peoples of North and Central America, from
> pre-Colombian times, through the period of European contact and
> colonization, to the end of the 19th century and the subjugation of
> the Plains Indians of North America. 500 Nations relies on historical
> texts, eyewitnesses accounts, pictorial sources and computer graphic
> reconstructions to explore the magnificent civilizations which
> flourished prior to contact with Western civilization, and to tell the
> dramatic and tragic story of the Native American nations' desperate
> attempts to retain their way of life against overwhelming odds.
>
> 500 Nations: An Illustrated History of North American Indians
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0517163942/
> by Alvin M., Jr. Josephy
>
> Soldier Blue (1970)
> http://us.imdb.com/Title?0066390
> After a cavalry group is massacred by the Cheyenne, only two survivors
> remain: Honus, a naive private devoted to his duty, and Cresta, a
> young woman who had lived with the Cheyenne two years and whose
> sympathies lie more with them than with the US government. Together,
> they must try to reach the cavalry's main base camp. As they travel
> onward, Honus is torn between his growing affection for Cresta, and
> his disgust for her anti-American beliefs. They reach the cavalry
> campsite on the eve of an attack on a Cheyenne village, where Honus
> will learn which side has really been telling him the truth.
>
> Arrow in the Sun
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0786257180/
> by Theodore V. Olsen
>
> Cheyenne Autumn (1964)
> http://us.imdb.com/Title?0057940
> Long before "Dances With Wolves", John Ford dramatized the plight of
> the Indian much more realistically and in a period when it was not PC
> to do so. In a class with Ulzana's Raid, this movie is a must. Still
> waiting for it to come out in DVD.
>
> Cheyenne Autumn
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0803292120/
> by Mari Sandoz (Paperback - September 1992)
>
> Broken Arrow (1950)
> http://us.imdb.com/Title?0042286
> By 1870, there has been 10 years of cruel war between settlers and
> Cochise's Apaches. Ex-soldier Tom Jeffords saves the life of an Apache
> boy and starts to wonder if Indians are human, after all; soon, he
> determines to use this chance to make himself an ambassador. Against
> all odds, his solitary mission into Cochise's stronghold opens a
> dialogue. Opportunely, the president sends General Howard with orders
> to conclude peace. But even with Jeffords' luck, the deep grievance
> and hatred on both sides make tragic failure all too likely...
>
> Blood Brother
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0803259018/
> by Elliott Arnold
>
> Apache (1954)
> http://us.imdb.com/Title?0046719
> Following the surrender of Geronimo, Massai, the last Apache warrior
> is captured and scheduled for transportation to a Florida reservation.
> Instead, he manages to escape and heads for his homeland to win back
> his girl and settle down to grow crops. His pursuers have other ideas
> though.
>
> >
> > > >
> > > > A Blueprint for the Future
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/9vga

maff

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Society > Ethnicity > Indigenous People > Native Americans > Tribes,
Nations and Bands
http://directory.google.com/Top/Society/Ethnicity/Indigenous_People/Native_Americans/Tribes,_Nations_and_Bands/


Curtis Collection Index of the North American Indian -
http://www.curtis-collection.com/tribalindex.html
Comprehensive 20-volume work of fact sheets and images for 80 Native
American tribes collected by Edward Sherrif Curtis from 1890 to 1930.

Virginia's Indians, Past & Present -
http://falcon.jmu.edu/~ramseyil/vaindians.htm
Some historical information on Native American tribes in Virginia from
the Ice Age to today.

United States Indian Tribes: Index by State -
http://www.kstrom.net/isk/maps/tribesbystate.html
Clickable map for state reservations, tribal web links, general
information. Nonstatus tribes included by states.

Pacific Northwest Coastal Indians -
http://members.aol.com/Donnclass/NWIndianlife.html
Describes the daily life of the Puget Sound Indian tribes in
prehistoric times.

Native Population in the United States -
http://www.americanwest.com/pages/indrank.htm
Raw number and percentage of total native population for the 30
largest tribes in the United States, according to the 1990 census.

Texas Indians - http://www.texasindians.com/
Information on history and origins, religion and ceremony, oral
literature, territories, and treaties of the 25 Native American tribes
of Texas. Also a curriculum for teachers and information for children.

Four Corners Postcard - http://www.ausbcomp.com/redman/index.htm
Portal to fact sheets about the Navajo, Hopi, Jicarilla Apache, Ute
Mountain and Southern Utes. Articles and links to Native American
periodicals, and large directory of other sites.

Indigenous Nations of North America -
http://www.indians.org/welker/nations.htm
Portal to websites for Native Nations of Canada and the United States.

California's Lost Tribes: A Special Report -
http://www.sacbee.com/static/archive/news/projects/native/day3_side.html
Articles and interviews with members of the "invisible" tribes of
California.

Montana Reservations - http://lewisandclark.state.mt.us/visitres.htm
Tourism and background information about the seven Indian reservations
of Montana.

Native American Tribes - http://www.intertribal.net/NAT/NATribes.htm
Links to websites about individual tribes and nations.

Ohio's Indians Learning Links -
http://www.oplin.lib.oh.us/products/PPF/ohioans/indians/links.html
Portraits of a few famous American Indians of Ohio, with links.

Biloxi-Chitimacha-Choctaw of Louisiana -
http://www.biloxi-chitimacha.com/
The most accurate history of the Indians of Lafourche and Terrebonne
Parishes. Bayou Lafourche Band of Biloxi-Chitimacha, Grand
Caillou/Dulac Band of Biloxi-Chitimacha, Isle de Jean Charles Band of
Biloxi-Chitimacha, and the Biloxi-Chitimacha Confederation of
Muskogees, Inc.

Tribal Website Directory -
http://home.t-online.de/home/Wontolla/16tribes.htm
A comprehensive collection of links to tribal websites in North
America. In English and German.

Alaska Native Online -
http://groups.msn.com/Alaska/nativealaska.msnw?pgmarket=en-us
Alaska native online discussion community.

Clatsop-Nehalem Confederated Tribes - http://www.clatsop-nehalem.com
Membership and photo gallery for the Clatsop, Nehalem and Tillmook
tribes in Oregon.

The First Long Islanders - http://www.lihistory.com/2/hs201a.htm
History of Long Island Indians.

The Flags of the Native Peoples of the United States -
http://hometown.aol.com/Donh523/navapage/index.htm
Pictures and descriptions of flags used by US Indian tribes. Sites
doesn't feature flags for sale.

Tribe Finder - http://www.ilt.columbia.edu/k12/naha/maps/findtrib.html
Clickable map indicating tribal lands in the United States, with fact
sheets on various tribes.

Forgotten Founders
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=18510aff.0212130217.34047bba%40posting.google.com

and thread

Mark K. Bilbo

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Aug 18, 2003, 3:41:44 PM8/18/03
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 12:26:32 -0700, maff wrote:

>
> Texas Indians - http://www.texasindians.com/ Information on history and
> origins, religion and ceremony, oral literature, territories, and treaties
> of the 25 Native American tribes of Texas. Also a curriculum for teachers
> and information for children.

Not always accurate though. Like here:

http://www.texasindians.com/albam.htm

They at least have Clayton pictured. And quote him. But get some things
rather off. Such as:

"This land used to be part of a reservation. But, the Government dissolved
the reservation many years ago."

Uh, sorry but they regained federal recognition in the '80s. Almost two
decades ago. Also, calling Clayton "...Chief of both tribes." is *dead
wrong. The Coushatta are a separate tribe. The Alabama-Coushatta are a
*single tribe (as per federal recognition). True, they came into being
because *some Coushatta moved onto Alabama land (by invitation) after
losing theirs in Texas but the two are distinct entities. Clayton is
certainly not recognized as chief of the Coushatta.

(In fact, claiming an Alabama is chief of the Coushattas could start some
rather heated arguments. <wry-g>)

--
Mark K. Bilbo

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Pact Gives Canadian Tribe Wide Powers
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44666-2003Aug25.html
As Resource-Rich Territory Gets Self-Rule, Chretien Hails Aboriginal
Rights
By DeNeen L. Brown, Page A01
RAE-EDZO, Northwest Territories, Aug. 25 -- Prime Minister Jean
Chretien signed a historic land settlement today, granting the
4,000-member Dogrib tribe, an aboriginal people in Canada's western
Arctic, broad-ranging powers to preserve their culture, govern
themselves and receive tax revenue in a territory bigger than Belgium.

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Canada's forgotten people
http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,1048041,00.html
Canadians of mixed European and native ancestry have won a major
victory in their 130-year-old battle for recognition, writes Anne
McIlroy

Tuesday September 23, 2003

For years, they called themselves the "forgotten people". Last week,
Canada's supreme court ruled that the Métis - descendants of early
white settlers and natives - are in fact a distinct people with
significant rights.

The high court ruled that the Métis have the same hunting rights as
native Indians and the Inuit. That decision will likely force federal
and provincial governments to negotiate with the Métis on other rights
enjoyed by Canada's aboriginal people, including access to other
natural resources and special government services.

Métis
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&scoring=d&cat=&q=M%C3%A9tis&sa=N&tab=dn

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Inuit
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&scoring=d&q=Inuit&sa=N&tab=gn

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&scoring=d&q=Inuit&sa=N&tab=nw

http://groups.google.com/groups?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&scoring=d&q=Inuit&sa=N&tab=wg

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&scoring=d&q=Inuit&sa=N&tab=gd&cat=gwd%2FTop

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It's Gas vs. Heritage in Navajo Country
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/14/business/14GAS.html?pagewanted=all&position=
By SIMON ROMERO
Energy companies desire an area in northwestern New Mexico for its
natural gas reserves. But many Navajo people have other ideas.

Navajo
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Navajo&sa=N&tab=gn

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Navajo&sa=N&tab=nw

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Navajo&sa=N&tab=wd&cat=gwd%2FTop

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Navajo&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en

Calif. Tribes' Clout Carries Political Risk
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25309-2003Sep30.html
Casino Money Is a Force, And Issue, in Recall Fight

By William Booth
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 1, 2003; Page A01

ALPINE, Calif. -- Before they opened their splashy Vegas-style casino
in the waterless ranchlands east of San Diego, the Viejas Band of
Kameyaay Indians were just another small struggling tribe living in
rusty trailers on the reservation, trying to get by. "Too poor to buy
cars," recalled Bobby Barrett, the tribal council vice chairman.

Kameyaay
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Kameyaay&sa=N&tab=gn

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Kameyaay&sa=N&tab=nw

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Kameyaay&sa=N&tab=wd&cat=gwd%2FTop

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Kameyaay&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en

Indian Casinos California
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Indian+Casinos+California&sa=N&tab=gn

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Indian+Casinos+California&sa=N&tab=nw

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Indian+Casinos+California&sa=N&tab=wd&cat=gwd%2FTop

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Indian%20Casinos%20California&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en

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