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vivapa...@aol.com
May 17, 2013, 9:35:12 AM5/17/13
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MarkA
May 17, 2013, 11:38:30 AM5/17/13
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... by the GOP controlled Congress, desperate to find ANY excuse to avoid
the bipartisanship that their constituents DEMAND.
--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock
the bipartisanship that their constituents DEMAND.
--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock
Mike Painter
May 17, 2013, 1:00:41 PM5/17/13
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:38:30 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
>On Fri, 17 May 2013 06:35:12 -0700, vivapa...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> A classic example of abuse of power.
>
>... by the GOP controlled Congress, desperate to find ANY excuse to avoid
>the bipartisanship that their constituents DEMAND.
Now there's a Real Conspiracy for you.
The GOP realized the tea party was a danger so got the IRS involved
and then blamed it on Obama.
wrote:
>On Fri, 17 May 2013 06:35:12 -0700, vivapa...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> A classic example of abuse of power.
>
>... by the GOP controlled Congress, desperate to find ANY excuse to avoid
>the bipartisanship that their constituents DEMAND.
The GOP realized the tea party was a danger so got the IRS involved
and then blamed it on Obama.
Free Lunch
May 17, 2013, 1:55:58 PM5/17/13
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 10:00:41 -0700, Mike Painter
<mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism:
Every political donation should be publicly reported. The law that
allows political groups to hide their sources of funds is the scandal,
not the fact that one employee of the IRS tried to make certain that
those hiding their sources of funds were actually following the law.
<mddotp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism:
allows political groups to hide their sources of funds is the scandal,
not the fact that one employee of the IRS tried to make certain that
those hiding their sources of funds were actually following the law.
linuxgal
May 17, 2013, 3:54:23 PM5/17/13
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Free Lunch wrote:
> Every political donation should be publicly reported.
In Washington State the right tried to get the government to reveal the
> Every political donation should be publicly reported.
list of donors to the anti-marriage equality referendum, and the left
successfully fended them off. I don't care which way it goes, so long
as the rules are the same for both parties.
--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0
Free Lunch
May 17, 2013, 5:42:03 PM5/17/13
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:54:23 -0800, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com>
wrote in alt.atheism:
>Free Lunch wrote:
>> Every political donation should be publicly reported.
>
>In Washington State the right tried to get the government to reveal the
>list of donors to the anti-marriage equality referendum, and the left
>successfully fended them off. I don't care which way it goes, so long
>as the rules are the same for both parties.
I don't want special rules for anyone. It's bad enough that we allow
money to corrupt our entire electoral system. It's worse that we don't
even have public accountability for those who have bought the
politicians.
wrote in alt.atheism:
>Free Lunch wrote:
>> Every political donation should be publicly reported.
>
>In Washington State the right tried to get the government to reveal the
>list of donors to the anti-marriage equality referendum, and the left
>successfully fended them off. I don't care which way it goes, so long
>as the rules are the same for both parties.
money to corrupt our entire electoral system. It's worse that we don't
even have public accountability for those who have bought the
politicians.
Don Kresch
May 17, 2013, 10:38:38 PM5/17/13
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:38:30 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
scrawled in blood:
>On Fri, 17 May 2013 06:35:12 -0700, vivapa...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> A classic example of abuse of power.
>
>... by the GOP controlled Congress, desperate to find ANY excuse to avoid
>the bipartisanship that their constituents DEMAND.
government, and, as such, gridlock is the only way for that to happen.
But then: you don't care. You want to be fucked by Big Daddy
Government. You're just as bad as the fundy christians who want to be
fucked by Big Daddy God.
Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.
MarkA
May 18, 2013, 11:52:57 AM5/18/13
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:38:38 -0500, Don Kresch wrote:
> On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:38:30 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
> scrawled in blood:
>
>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 06:35:12 -0700, vivapa...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> A classic example of abuse of power.
>>
>>... by the GOP controlled Congress, desperate to find ANY excuse to avoid
>>the bipartisanship that their constituents DEMAND.
>
> I think their constituents demand to not be fucked by
> government, and, as such, gridlock is the only way for that to happen.
>
> But then: you don't care. You want to be fucked by Big Daddy
> Government. You're just as bad as the fundy christians who want to be
> fucked by Big Daddy God.
>
You're right, Don. Quality of life was undoubtedly so much better when
> On Fri, 17 May 2013 11:38:30 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
> scrawled in blood:
>
>>On Fri, 17 May 2013 06:35:12 -0700, vivapa...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> A classic example of abuse of power.
>>
>>... by the GOP controlled Congress, desperate to find ANY excuse to avoid
>>the bipartisanship that their constituents DEMAND.
>
> I think their constituents demand to not be fucked by
> government, and, as such, gridlock is the only way for that to happen.
>
> But then: you don't care. You want to be fucked by Big Daddy
> Government. You're just as bad as the fundy christians who want to be
> fucked by Big Daddy God.
>
people lived as small bands of nomadic hunter-gatherers, with no central
government. Look at the Native Americans: they were so content and
peaceful, they just gave away their land to the European invaders.
--
MarkA
If you can read this, you can stop reading now.
linuxgal
May 18, 2013, 1:21:14 PM5/18/13
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MarkA wrote:
> You're right, Don. Quality of life was undoubtedly so much better when
> people lived as small bands of nomadic hunter-gatherers, with no central
> government. Look at the Native Americans: they were so content and
> peaceful, they just gave away their land to the European invaders.
They were at a disadvantage, they didn't have a concept of owning land.
> You're right, Don. Quality of life was undoubtedly so much better when
> people lived as small bands of nomadic hunter-gatherers, with no central
> government. Look at the Native Americans: they were so content and
> peaceful, they just gave away their land to the European invaders.
And the invaders only began speaking of the "eternal" principle of
private property after they had relocated the native people to the
shitty land. But there was a major adjustment when gold was discovered
under some of that shitty land in the Black Hills. That was what the
whole thing with Custer and Sitting Bull was all about.
vivapa...@aol.com
May 18, 2013, 4:52:41 PM5/18/13
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SkyEyes
May 18, 2013, 5:30:54 PM5/18/13
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On May 18, 9:21 am, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> MarkA wrote:
> > You're right, Don. Quality of life was undoubtedly so much better when
> > people lived as small bands of nomadic hunter-gatherers, with no central
> > government. Look at the Native Americans: they were so content and
> > peaceful, they just gave away their land to the European invaders.
>
> They were at a disadvantage, they didn't have a concept of owning land.
Some Native American nations did; some other didn't. Native American
> MarkA wrote:
> > You're right, Don. Quality of life was undoubtedly so much better when
> > people lived as small bands of nomadic hunter-gatherers, with no central
> > government. Look at the Native Americans: they were so content and
> > peaceful, they just gave away their land to the European invaders.
>
> They were at a disadvantage, they didn't have a concept of owning land.
culture is *not* monolithic. When the first British colonies were
established on the east coast of North America, there were 550-700
different Native American nations (depending on how you reckon what
constitutes a separate "tribe") in North and Mezo-America. Their
outlooks, spiritual viewpoints, and systems of governing and outlook
on owning things differed widely.
-
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Jeanne Douglas
May 18, 2013, 9:59:22 PM5/18/13
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In article <960e52fb-194f-4ae7...@googlegroups.com>,
You say that as if that's a bad thing. Why is that?
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
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"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
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vivapa...@aol.com
May 19, 2013, 4:59:33 PM5/19/13
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Free Lunch
May 19, 2013, 5:01:11 PM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:59:33 -0700 (PDT), "vivapa...@aol.com"
<vivapa...@aol.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
For the price difference, it should be.
<vivapa...@aol.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
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Stormin Mormon
May 19, 2013, 6:45:51 PM5/19/13
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Would Jesus leave 42 lines of old text, and then call
someone a name?
.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
.
"Brother Love" <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:cngip811nsrrrqggn...@4ax.com...
>>It's a well-known fact that Range Rovers are better than Cherokees.
>
>For the price difference, it should be.
Hint: There is no free lunch, fool.
Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
Yes! Each and every one of you!
someone a name?
.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
.
"Brother Love" <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:cngip811nsrrrqggn...@4ax.com...
>>It's a well-known fact that Range Rovers are better than Cherokees.
>
>For the price difference, it should be.
Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
Yes! Each and every one of you!
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Bob F
May 20, 2013, 9:49:38 AM5/20/13
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ChairMan
May 20, 2013, 10:16:45 AM5/20/13
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Brother Love <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote:
Jesus loves you too, but everyone else thinks you're an
asshole
<PLONK>
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 18:45:51 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
> <cayoung61**NOJUNK**@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Would Jesus leave 42 lines of old text, and then call
>> someone a name?
>> .
>> Christopher A. Young
>> Learn more about Jesus
>> www.lds.org
>> .
>
> <PLONK>
> <cayoung61**NOJUNK**@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Would Jesus leave 42 lines of old text, and then call
>> someone a name?
>> .
>> Christopher A. Young
>> Learn more about Jesus
>> www.lds.org
>> .
>
>
> Always remember:
> Jesus love's you and so do I!
> Every single one of you!
> Always remember:
> Jesus love's you and so do I!
Jesus loves you too, but everyone else thinks you're an
asshole
<PLONK>
Stormin Mormon
May 21, 2013, 7:25:14 AM5/21/13
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You love's me so much, that you plonk me?
That's not very excepting, of you. WWJP:
Who would Jesus plonk?
I think that you, sir, and your husband,
should be more excepting.
"Brother Love" <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in message news:5n5kp89gbu5vkagcm...@4ax.com...
That's not very excepting, of you. WWJP:
Who would Jesus plonk?
I think that you, sir, and your husband,
should be more excepting.
"Brother Love" <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in message news:5n5kp89gbu5vkagcm...@4ax.com...
>Would Jesus leave 42 lines of old text, and then call
>someone a name?
>.
>Christopher A. Young
>Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
>.
<PLONK>
>someone a name?
>.
>Christopher A. Young
>Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
>.
Jason
May 21, 2013, 2:33:56 PM5/21/13
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In article <KRImt.50487$lu5....@fe19.iad>, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61**NOJUNK**@hotmail.com> wrote:
> You love's me so much, that you plonk me?=20
> That's not very excepting, of you. WWJP:=20
> Who would Jesus plonk?=20
>
> I think that you, sir, and your husband,=20
> should be more excepting. =20
> .
> Christopher A. Young=20
> Learn more about Jesus=20
> www.lds.org =20
> .
> .
> "Brother Love" <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in message =
> >someone a name? =20
> >.
> >Christopher A. Young=20
> >Learn more about Jesus=20
> > www.lds.org =20
> >.
>
> <PLONK>
<http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audit-article-1.1349333>
<cayoung61**NOJUNK**@hotmail.com> wrote:
> You love's me so much, that you plonk me?=20
> That's not very excepting, of you. WWJP:=20
> Who would Jesus plonk?=20
>
> I think that you, sir, and your husband,=20
> should be more excepting. =20
> .
> Christopher A. Young=20
> Learn more about Jesus=20
> www.lds.org =20
> .
> .
> "Brother Love" <clove...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in message =
> news:5n5kp89gbu5vkagcm...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 18:45:51 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
> <cayoung61**NOJUNK**@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Would Jesus leave 42 lines of old text, and then call=20
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 18:45:51 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
> <cayoung61**NOJUNK**@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >someone a name? =20
> >.
> >Christopher A. Young=20
> >Learn more about Jesus=20
> > www.lds.org =20
> >.
>
> <PLONK>
<http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audit-article-1.1349333>
Tom McDonald
May 21, 2013, 3:15:32 PM5/21/13
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http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts-of-the-case/
Or:
http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
Jason
May 21, 2013, 4:35:56 PM5/21/13
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In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
<kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
<http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audit-article-1.1349333>
> >
> >
> "The Tea Party, The IRS ‘Scandal’ — And The Actual Facts Of The Case"
I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.html>
This case is about freedom of the speech.
Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or the NAACP.
<kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
<http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audit-article-1.1349333>
> >
> >
> "The Tea Party, The IRS ‘Scandal’ — And The Actual Facts Of The Case"
>
>
http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts-of-the-case/
>
> Or:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
>
http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts-of-the-case/
>
> Or:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.html>
This case is about freedom of the speech.
Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or the NAACP.
Tom McDonald
May 21, 2013, 4:47:03 PM5/21/13
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On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audit-article-1.1349333>
>>>
>>>
>> "The Tea Party, The IRS �Scandal� � And The Actual Facts Of The Case"
> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audit-article-1.1349333>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts-of-the-case/
>>
>> Or:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
>
> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
>
> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
>
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.html>
>
> This case is about freedom of the speech.
>
> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
>
> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
>
> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or the NAACP.
>
>
The IRS has targeted the NAACP, and the ACLU, to the best of my
>>
> http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts-of-the-case/
>>
>> Or:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
>
> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
>
> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
>
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.html>
>
> This case is about freedom of the speech.
>
> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
>
> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
>
> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or the NAACP.
>
>
knowledge, isn't tax-exempt.
Read this. It shows how your buddies have misused the 501(c)(4) status,
thus making scrutiny of their political allies reasonable:
http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law?rel=emailNation%22#
Or:
http://tinyurl.com/n2nn2k3
"The real scandal has been the blatant abuse of 501(c)(4) status by
dozens of lobbyists and operatives who have set up such tax-exempt
organizations as political slush funds to conceal money in political
campaigns. Since the Citizens United decision, 501(c)(4) groups, have
operated as Super PACs�raising and spending tens of millions in
corporate funds�without disclosing a dime of their contributors. IRS
rules state that the primary activity of such groups cannot relate to
political advocacy, yet examples abound of 501(c)(4) groups spending
well over 50 percent of their funds on attack ads, political action
committees and other clearly political expenses. These potential
violations of the law have gone on for several years now, with very
little interest from the Beltway media or Capitol Hill Republicans, many
of whom owe their election to spending by bogus 501(c)(4) organizations."
Read more:
http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law#ixzz2Txie1oFK
Jason
May 21, 2013, 5:07:04 PM5/21/13
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In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
> corporate funds�without disclosing a dime of their contributors. IRS
current scandal, the IRS only focused on conservative groups that had
certain key words in their title such as these two: "tea party",
"patriot".
The above story appears to me to be about the IRS going after 501 groups.
That is far different than the current IRS scandal.
Are you trying to change the subject? yes or no
<http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
<kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
> > In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
<http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audit-article-1.1349333>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> "The Tea Party, The IRS �Scandal� � And The Actual Facts Of The Case"
> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
> > In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
<http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audit-article-1.1349333>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts-of-the-case/
> >>
> >> Or:
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
> >
> > Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
> >
> > I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
> >
> >
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.html>
> >
> > This case is about freedom of the speech.
> >
> > Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
> > want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
> >
> > The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
> > or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
> >
> > How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or
the NAACP.
> >
> >
> The IRS has targeted the NAACP, and the ACLU, to the best of my
> knowledge, isn't tax-exempt.
>
> Read this. It shows how your buddies have misused the 501(c)(4) status,
> thus making scrutiny of their political allies reasonable:
>
>
http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law?rel=emailNation%22#
>
> Or:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/n2nn2k3
>
> "The real scandal has been the blatant abuse of 501(c)(4) status by
> dozens of lobbyists and operatives who have set up such tax-exempt
> organizations as political slush funds to conceal money in political
> campaigns. Since the Citizens United decision, 501(c)(4) groups, have
> operated as Super PACs�raising and spending tens of millions in
> >>
> >
http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts-of-the-case/
> >>
> >> Or:
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
> >
> > Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
> >
> > I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
> >
> >
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.html>
> >
> > This case is about freedom of the speech.
> >
> > Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
> > want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
> >
> > The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
> > or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
> >
> > How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or
the NAACP.
> >
> >
> The IRS has targeted the NAACP, and the ACLU, to the best of my
> knowledge, isn't tax-exempt.
>
> Read this. It shows how your buddies have misused the 501(c)(4) status,
> thus making scrutiny of their political allies reasonable:
>
>
http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law?rel=emailNation%22#
>
> Or:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/n2nn2k3
>
> "The real scandal has been the blatant abuse of 501(c)(4) status by
> dozens of lobbyists and operatives who have set up such tax-exempt
> organizations as political slush funds to conceal money in political
> campaigns. Since the Citizens United decision, 501(c)(4) groups, have
> corporate funds�without disclosing a dime of their contributors. IRS
> rules state that the primary activity of such groups cannot relate to
> political advocacy, yet examples abound of 501(c)(4) groups spending
> well over 50 percent of their funds on attack ads, political action
> committees and other clearly political expenses. These potential
> violations of the law have gone on for several years now, with very
> little interest from the Beltway media or Capitol Hill Republicans, many
> of whom owe their election to spending by bogus 501(c)(4) organizations."
>
> Read more:
>
http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law#ixzz2Txie1oFK
The above seems to be a different issue than the current scandal. In the
> political advocacy, yet examples abound of 501(c)(4) groups spending
> well over 50 percent of their funds on attack ads, political action
> committees and other clearly political expenses. These potential
> violations of the law have gone on for several years now, with very
> little interest from the Beltway media or Capitol Hill Republicans, many
> of whom owe their election to spending by bogus 501(c)(4) organizations."
>
> Read more:
>
http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law#ixzz2Txie1oFK
current scandal, the IRS only focused on conservative groups that had
certain key words in their title such as these two: "tea party",
"patriot".
The above story appears to me to be about the IRS going after 501 groups.
That is far different than the current IRS scandal.
Are you trying to change the subject? yes or no
<http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
vivapa...@aol.com
May 21, 2013, 5:09:22 PM5/21/13
to
Tom McDonald
May 21, 2013, 5:42:13 PM5/21/13
to
On 5/21/2013 4:07 PM, Jason wrote:
> In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
>>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
>>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audit-article-1.1349333>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> "The Tea Party, The IRS �Scandal� � And The Actual Facts Of The Case"
> In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
>>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
>>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audit-article-1.1349333>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts-of-the-case/
>>>>
>>>> Or:
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
>>>
>>> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
>>>
>>> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
>>>
>>>
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.html>
>>>
>>> This case is about freedom of the speech.
>>>
>>> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
>>> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
>>>
>>> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
>>> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
>>>
>>> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or
> the NAACP.
>>>
>>>
>> The IRS has targeted the NAACP, and the ACLU, to the best of my
>> knowledge, isn't tax-exempt.
>>
>> Read this. It shows how your buddies have misused the 501(c)(4) status,
>> thus making scrutiny of their political allies reasonable:
>>
>>
> http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law?rel=emailNation%22#
>>
>> Or:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/n2nn2k3
>>
>> "The real scandal has been the blatant abuse of 501(c)(4) status by
>> dozens of lobbyists and operatives who have set up such tax-exempt
>> organizations as political slush funds to conceal money in political
>> campaigns. Since the Citizens United decision, 501(c)(4) groups, have
>> operated as Super PACs�raising and spending tens of millions in
>>>>
>>>
> http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts-of-the-case/
>>>>
>>>> Or:
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
>>>
>>> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
>>>
>>> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
>>>
>>>
> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.html>
>>>
>>> This case is about freedom of the speech.
>>>
>>> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
>>> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
>>>
>>> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
>>> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
>>>
>>> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or
> the NAACP.
>>>
>>>
>> The IRS has targeted the NAACP, and the ACLU, to the best of my
>> knowledge, isn't tax-exempt.
>>
>> Read this. It shows how your buddies have misused the 501(c)(4) status,
>> thus making scrutiny of their political allies reasonable:
>>
>>
> http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law?rel=emailNation%22#
>>
>> Or:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/n2nn2k3
>>
>> "The real scandal has been the blatant abuse of 501(c)(4) status by
>> dozens of lobbyists and operatives who have set up such tax-exempt
>> organizations as political slush funds to conceal money in political
>> campaigns. Since the Citizens United decision, 501(c)(4) groups, have
>> corporate funds�without disclosing a dime of their contributors. IRS
>> rules state that the primary activity of such groups cannot relate to
>> political advocacy, yet examples abound of 501(c)(4) groups spending
>> well over 50 percent of their funds on attack ads, political action
>> committees and other clearly political expenses. These potential
>> violations of the law have gone on for several years now, with very
>> little interest from the Beltway media or Capitol Hill Republicans, many
>> of whom owe their election to spending by bogus 501(c)(4) organizations."
>>
>> Read more:
>>
> http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law#ixzz2Txie1oFK
>
> The above seems to be a different issue than the current scandal. In the
> current scandal, the IRS only focused on conservative groups that had
> certain key words in their title such as these two: "tea party",
> "patriot".
>
> The above story appears to me to be about the IRS going after 501 groups.
> That is far different than the current IRS scandal.
>
> Are you trying to change the subject? yes or no
>
> <http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
>
>
Interesting you should ask that when your whole part of this thread was
>> political advocacy, yet examples abound of 501(c)(4) groups spending
>> well over 50 percent of their funds on attack ads, political action
>> committees and other clearly political expenses. These potential
>> violations of the law have gone on for several years now, with very
>> little interest from the Beltway media or Capitol Hill Republicans, many
>> of whom owe their election to spending by bogus 501(c)(4) organizations."
>>
>> Read more:
>>
> http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law#ixzz2Txie1oFK
>
> The above seems to be a different issue than the current scandal. In the
> current scandal, the IRS only focused on conservative groups that had
> certain key words in their title such as these two: "tea party",
> "patriot".
>
> The above story appears to me to be about the IRS going after 501 groups.
> That is far different than the current IRS scandal.
>
> Are you trying to change the subject? yes or no
>
> <http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
>
>
a change of subject from what went before.
No, I am not changing the subject; I'm giving broader context. Not the same.
Jason
May 21, 2013, 7:24:07 PM5/21/13
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In article <246454cd-86f1-4edf...@googlegroups.com>,
> > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs=
> -audit-article-1.1349333>
> >=20
> > > >
> >=20
> > > >
> >=20
> > > "The Tea Party, The IRS =91Scandal=92 =97 And The Actual Facts Of The C=
> ase"
> >=20
> > >=20
> >=20
> > >
> >=20
> > http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-=
> facts-of-the-case/
> >=20
> > >=20
> >=20
> > > Or:
> >=20
> > >=20
> >=20
> > > http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928=
> .html>
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or the=
I agree with you in regard to the founder of the Huffington Post.
"vivapa...@aol.com" <vivapa...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:35:56 PM UTC-7, Jason wrote:
> > In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> >=20
> On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:35:56 PM UTC-7, Jason wrote:
> > In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs=
> -audit-article-1.1349333>
> >=20
> > > >
> >=20
> > > >
> >=20
> > > "The Tea Party, The IRS =91Scandal=92 =97 And The Actual Facts Of The C=
> ase"
> >=20
> > >=20
> >=20
> > >
> >=20
> > http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-=
> facts-of-the-case/
> >=20
> > >=20
> >=20
> > > Or:
> >=20
> > >=20
> >=20
> > > http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928=
> .html>
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > This case is about freedom of the speech.
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
> >=20
> > want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
> >=20
> > or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or the=
> NAACP.
>
> The Huffington Post is full of crap, just like its founder.
<http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
>
> The Huffington Post is full of crap, just like its founder.
I agree with you in regard to the founder of the Huffington Post.
Jason
May 21, 2013, 7:28:17 PM5/21/13
to
In article <1TRmt.8901$CG1...@newsfe21.iad>, Tom McDonald
> >> corporate funds—without disclosing a dime of their contributors. IRS
organizations since some of those those orgarizations were liberal and
some were conservative. The story would only be the same if they only
targeted liberal 501 organzations and totally ignored conservative 501
organizations.
<kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/21/2013 4:07 PM, Jason wrote:
> > In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
> >>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> >>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >
<http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audit-article-1.1349333>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> "The Tea Party, The IRS ‘Scandal’ — And The Actual Facts Of The Case"
> On 5/21/2013 4:07 PM, Jason wrote:
> > In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
> >>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> >>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >
<http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audit-article-1.1349333>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts-of-the-case/
> >>>>
> >>>> Or:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
> >>>
> >>> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
> >>>
> >>> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
> >>>
> >>>
> >
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.html>
> >>>
> >>> This case is about freedom of the speech.
> >>>
> >>> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
> >>> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
> >>>
> >>> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
> >>> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
> >>>
> >>> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or
> > the NAACP.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> The IRS has targeted the NAACP, and the ACLU, to the best of my
> >> knowledge, isn't tax-exempt.
> >>
> >> Read this. It shows how your buddies have misused the 501(c)(4) status,
> >> thus making scrutiny of their political allies reasonable:
> >>
> >>
> >
http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law?rel=emailNation%22#
> >>
> >> Or:
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/n2nn2k3
> >>
> >> "The real scandal has been the blatant abuse of 501(c)(4) status by
> >> dozens of lobbyists and operatives who have set up such tax-exempt
> >> organizations as political slush funds to conceal money in political
> >> campaigns. Since the Citizens United decision, 501(c)(4) groups, have
> >> operated as Super PACs—raising and spending tens of millions in
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts-of-the-case/
> >>>>
> >>>> Or:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
> >>>
> >>> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
> >>>
> >>> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
> >>>
> >>>
> >
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.html>
> >>>
> >>> This case is about freedom of the speech.
> >>>
> >>> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
> >>> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
> >>>
> >>> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
> >>> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
> >>>
> >>> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or
> > the NAACP.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> The IRS has targeted the NAACP, and the ACLU, to the best of my
> >> knowledge, isn't tax-exempt.
> >>
> >> Read this. It shows how your buddies have misused the 501(c)(4) status,
> >> thus making scrutiny of their political allies reasonable:
> >>
> >>
> >
http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law?rel=emailNation%22#
> >>
> >> Or:
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/n2nn2k3
> >>
> >> "The real scandal has been the blatant abuse of 501(c)(4) status by
> >> dozens of lobbyists and operatives who have set up such tax-exempt
> >> organizations as political slush funds to conceal money in political
> >> campaigns. Since the Citizens United decision, 501(c)(4) groups, have
> >> corporate funds—without disclosing a dime of their contributors. IRS
> >> rules state that the primary activity of such groups cannot relate to
> >> political advocacy, yet examples abound of 501(c)(4) groups spending
> >> well over 50 percent of their funds on attack ads, political action
> >> committees and other clearly political expenses. These potential
> >> violations of the law have gone on for several years now, with very
> >> little interest from the Beltway media or Capitol Hill Republicans, many
> >> of whom owe their election to spending by bogus 501(c)(4) organizations."
> >>
> >> Read more:
> >>
> >
http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law#ixzz2Txie1oFK
> >
> > The above seems to be a different issue than the current scandal. In the
> > current scandal, the IRS only focused on conservative groups that had
> > certain key words in their title such as these two: "tea party",
> > "patriot".
> >
> > The above story appears to me to be about the IRS going after 501 groups.
> > That is far different than the current IRS scandal.
> >
> > Are you trying to change the subject? yes or no
> >
> >
<http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
> >
> >
> Interesting you should ask that when your whole part of this thread was
> a change of subject from what went before.
>
> No, I am not changing the subject; I'm giving broader context. Not the same.
I don't believe it was against the law or the IRS rules to go after 501
> >> political advocacy, yet examples abound of 501(c)(4) groups spending
> >> well over 50 percent of their funds on attack ads, political action
> >> committees and other clearly political expenses. These potential
> >> violations of the law have gone on for several years now, with very
> >> little interest from the Beltway media or Capitol Hill Republicans, many
> >> of whom owe their election to spending by bogus 501(c)(4) organizations."
> >>
> >> Read more:
> >>
> >
http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-broken-law#ixzz2Txie1oFK
> >
> > The above seems to be a different issue than the current scandal. In the
> > current scandal, the IRS only focused on conservative groups that had
> > certain key words in their title such as these two: "tea party",
> > "patriot".
> >
> > The above story appears to me to be about the IRS going after 501 groups.
> > That is far different than the current IRS scandal.
> >
> > Are you trying to change the subject? yes or no
> >
> >
<http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
> >
> >
> Interesting you should ask that when your whole part of this thread was
> a change of subject from what went before.
>
> No, I am not changing the subject; I'm giving broader context. Not the same.
organizations since some of those those orgarizations were liberal and
some were conservative. The story would only be the same if they only
targeted liberal 501 organzations and totally ignored conservative 501
organizations.
Jeanne Douglas
May 21, 2013, 7:29:56 PM5/21/13
to
In article
<Jason-21051...@67-150-120-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Why are you reporting rumors again?
Why do you refuse to wait for the facts to come out before declaring
people guilty? Why do you hate America so much?
<Jason-21051...@67-150-120-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Why do you refuse to wait for the facts to come out before declaring
people guilty? Why do you hate America so much?
Jeanne Douglas
May 21, 2013, 7:30:41 PM5/21/13
to
Jeanne Douglas
May 21, 2013, 7:33:10 PM5/21/13
to
And the ONLY group they turned down was a liberal group. How do you fit
that into your libel?
Jason
May 21, 2013, 8:05:09 PM5/21/13
to
In article <hlwdjsd2-E11456...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
<http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
The above story was in dozens of newspapers today. I subscribe to the THE
SAN LUIS OBISPO TRIBUNE <sanluisobispo.com> and the above story was on the
front page of my newspaper.
I don't consider a front page newspaper story to be filled with rumors.
The above story was in dozens of newspapers today. I subscribe to the THE
SAN LUIS OBISPO TRIBUNE <sanluisobispo.com> and the above story was on the
front page of my newspaper.
I don't consider a front page newspaper story to be filled with rumors.
Jason
May 21, 2013, 8:08:49 PM5/21/13
to
In article <hlwdjsd2-7A9CD3...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
I suggest that you read this story:
<http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
You may be thinking about some other IRS scandal that took place a couple
of years ago.
<http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
You may be thinking about some other IRS scandal that took place a couple
of years ago.
Attila Iskander
May 21, 2013, 8:39:33 PM5/21/13
to
"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hlwdjsd2-9C38C3...@news.giganews.com...
by the IRS.
news:hlwdjsd2-9C38C3...@news.giganews.com...
> In article <Jason-21051...@66.53.222.235>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audi
>> t-article-1.1349333>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > "The Tea Party, The IRS �Scandal� � And The Actual Facts Of The Case"
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audi
>> t-article-1.1349333>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts
>> -of-the-case/
>> >
>> > Or:
>> >
>> > http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
>>
>> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
>>
>> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
>>
>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.html
>> >
>>
>> This case is about freedom of the speech.
>>
>> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
>> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
>>
>> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
>> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
>>
>> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or the
>> NAACP.
>
> They did.
>
Feel free to list the names of those ACLU & NAACP members that were targeted
>> >
>> http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts
>> -of-the-case/
>> >
>> > Or:
>> >
>> > http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
>>
>> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
>>
>> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
>>
>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.html
>> >
>>
>> This case is about freedom of the speech.
>>
>> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
>> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
>>
>> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
>> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
>>
>> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or the
>> NAACP.
>
> They did.
>
by the IRS.
tra...@optonline.net
May 21, 2013, 8:48:50 PM5/21/13
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On May 21, 7:33 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <Jason-2105131407540...@66.53.222.235>,
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> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62.9...@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > > > In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.13...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > > > <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-...
liberal 501's that applied and were targeted, given the run around for
two years? We know the IRS used
keywords that included "Tea party", and "patriot" to identify
conservative
organizations. And they went after groups that criticized how the
govt
is run. What were the keywords that they used to select the lib
organizations?
Where is the list of lib organizations complaining that they have been
denied 501 status for the last two years, like the conservative ones?
If what you claim is true, then Obama must really, really, be dumb
to not have the list of the lib organizations that were similarly
screwed.
>
> And the ONLY group they turned down was a liberal group. How do you fit
> that into your libel?
>
> --
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> JD
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> "Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden- Hide quoted text -
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> In article <Jason-2105131407540...@66.53.222.235>,
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> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62.9...@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > > > In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.13...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > > > <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-...
> > t-article-1.1349333>
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> > > >> "The Tea Party, The IRS Scandal And The Actual Facts Of The Case"
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> >http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-act...
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> > > >> "The Tea Party, The IRS Scandal And The Actual Facts Of The Case"
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> > -of-the-case/
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> > > >> Or:
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> > > >>http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
>
> > > > Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
>
> > > > I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
>
> > <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307...
>
> > > >> Or:
>
> > > >>http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
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> > > > Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
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> > > > I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
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> > > > This case is about freedom of the speech.
>
> > > > Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
> > > > want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
>
> > > > The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
> > > > or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
>
> > > > How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or
> > the NAACP.
>
> > > The IRS has targeted the NAACP, and the ACLU, to the best of my
> > > knowledge, isn't tax-exempt.
>
> > > Read this. It shows how your buddies have misused the 501(c)(4) status,
> > > thus making scrutiny of their political allies reasonable:
>
> >http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-bro...
> > > > This case is about freedom of the speech.
>
> > > > Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
> > > > want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
>
> > > > The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
> > > > or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
>
> > > > How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or
> > the NAACP.
>
> > > The IRS has targeted the NAACP, and the ACLU, to the best of my
> > > knowledge, isn't tax-exempt.
>
> > > Read this. It shows how your buddies have misused the 501(c)(4) status,
> > > thus making scrutiny of their political allies reasonable:
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> > el=emailNation%22#
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> > > Or:
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/n2nn2k3
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> > > "The real scandal has been the blatant abuse of 501(c)(4) status by
> > > dozens of lobbyists and operatives who have set up such tax-exempt
> > > organizations as political slush funds to conceal money in political
> > > campaigns. Since the Citizens United decision, 501(c)(4) groups, have
> > > operated as Super PACs raising and spending tens of millions in
> > > corporate funds without disclosing a dime of their contributors. IRS
> > > rules state that the primary activity of such groups cannot relate to
> > > political advocacy, yet examples abound of 501(c)(4) groups spending
> > > well over 50 percent of their funds on attack ads, political action
> > > committees and other clearly political expenses. These potential
> > > violations of the law have gone on for several years now, with very
> > > little interest from the Beltway media or Capitol Hill Republicans, many
> > > of whom owe their election to spending by bogus 501(c)(4) organizations."
>
> > > Read more:
>
> >http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-bro...
>
> > > Or:
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/n2nn2k3
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> > > "The real scandal has been the blatant abuse of 501(c)(4) status by
> > > dozens of lobbyists and operatives who have set up such tax-exempt
> > > organizations as political slush funds to conceal money in political
> > > campaigns. Since the Citizens United decision, 501(c)(4) groups, have
> > > operated as Super PACs raising and spending tens of millions in
> > > corporate funds without disclosing a dime of their contributors. IRS
> > > rules state that the primary activity of such groups cannot relate to
> > > political advocacy, yet examples abound of 501(c)(4) groups spending
> > > well over 50 percent of their funds on attack ads, political action
> > > committees and other clearly political expenses. These potential
> > > violations of the law have gone on for several years now, with very
> > > little interest from the Beltway media or Capitol Hill Republicans, many
> > > of whom owe their election to spending by bogus 501(c)(4) organizations."
>
> > > Read more:
>
> > xzz2Txie1oFK
>
> > The above seems to be a different issue than the current scandal. In the
> > current scandal, the IRS only focused on conservative groups that had
> > certain key words in their title such as these two: "tea party",
> > "patriot".
>
> That's a lie. They also targeted liberal groups.
Well now, that's mighty odd. Where is the list of all the
>
> > The above seems to be a different issue than the current scandal. In the
> > current scandal, the IRS only focused on conservative groups that had
> > certain key words in their title such as these two: "tea party",
> > "patriot".
>
> That's a lie. They also targeted liberal groups.
liberal 501's that applied and were targeted, given the run around for
two years? We know the IRS used
keywords that included "Tea party", and "patriot" to identify
conservative
organizations. And they went after groups that criticized how the
govt
is run. What were the keywords that they used to select the lib
organizations?
Where is the list of lib organizations complaining that they have been
denied 501 status for the last two years, like the conservative ones?
If what you claim is true, then Obama must really, really, be dumb
to not have the list of the lib organizations that were similarly
screwed.
>
> And the ONLY group they turned down was a liberal group. How do you fit
> that into your libel?
>
> --
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> JD
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Jeanne Douglas
May 21, 2013, 9:24:36 PM5/21/13
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In article
<Jason-21051...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Which they did do.
I'm still waiting for your reaction to the fact that the only group that
the IRS turned down was a liberal one.
<Jason-21051...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
I'm still waiting for your reaction to the fact that the only group that
the IRS turned down was a liberal one.
Jeanne Douglas
May 21, 2013, 9:54:33 PM5/21/13
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In article
<Jason-21051...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
No, I'm thinking about THIS non-scandal.
<Jason-21051...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Jeanne Douglas
May 21, 2013, 9:58:00 PM5/21/13
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In article <knh422$bdj$1...@dont-email.me>,
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<http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/when_the_irs_targeted_liberals/>
<http://freakoutnation.com/2013/05/13/bam-two-years-after-the-naacp-criti
cized-bush-in-2004-the-irs-finally-cleared-their-tax-exempt-status/>
"Attila Iskander" <Attila....@live.com> wrote:
> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-9C38C3...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <Jason-21051...@66.53.222.235>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> >> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> >> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-a
> >> udi
> >> t-article-1.1349333>
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> >> > >
> >> > "The Tea Party, The IRS ŚScandalą ‹ And The Actual Facts Of The Case"
> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-9C38C3...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <Jason-21051...@66.53.222.235>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> >> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> >> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-a
> >> udi
> >> t-article-1.1349333>
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> >> http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-fa
> >> cts
> >> -of-the-case/
> >> >
> >> > Or:
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
> >>
> >> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
> >>
> >> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
> >>
> >> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.h
> >> tml
> >> >
> >>
> >> This case is about freedom of the speech.
> >>
> >> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
> >> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
> >>
> >> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
> >> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
> >>
> >> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or the
> >> NAACP.
> >
> > They did.
> >
>
> Feel free to list the names of those ACLU & NAACP members that were targeted
> by the IRS.
<http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/irs-targeted-naacp-in-2004-91284.h
> >> >
> >> http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-fa
> >> cts
> >> -of-the-case/
> >> >
> >> > Or:
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
> >>
> >> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
> >>
> >> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
> >>
> >> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307928.h
> >> tml
> >> >
> >>
> >> This case is about freedom of the speech.
> >>
> >> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
> >> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
> >>
> >> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
> >> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
> >>
> >> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or the
> >> NAACP.
> >
> > They did.
> >
>
> Feel free to list the names of those ACLU & NAACP members that were targeted
> by the IRS.
tml>
<http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/when_the_irs_targeted_liberals/>
<http://freakoutnation.com/2013/05/13/bam-two-years-after-the-naacp-criti
cized-bush-in-2004-the-irs-finally-cleared-their-tax-exempt-status/>
Jeanne Douglas
May 21, 2013, 9:58:43 PM5/21/13
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In article
<Jason-21051...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Since you've been given hundreds of examples of newspapers printing
rumors, that statement is a lie.
<Jason-21051...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
rumors, that statement is a lie.
zayton
May 21, 2013, 11:53:40 PM5/21/13
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You just can't recognize it without the Faux News spin.
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> Are you trying to change the subject? yes or no
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No.
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> Are you trying to change the subject? yes or no
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> <http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
Dakota
May 22, 2013, 12:30:00 AM5/22/13
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American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU Foundation or both. A
contribution to either organization will be used to support, promote
and defend civil liberties.
Both organizations support the ACLU's extensive litigation,
communications and public education programs. However, certain
important activities carried out by the ACLU cannot be supported with
tax-deductible gifts. This is primarily in the area of lobbying,
because federal law limits the amount that a tax-exempt organization
like the ACLU Foundation can spend on lobbying.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/pcca45s
Jason
May 22, 2013, 12:52:42 AM5/22/13
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In article <hlwdjsd2-FBC648...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
What portions of this story are rumors. Be specific:
<http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
<http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
Jason
May 22, 2013, 12:55:39 AM5/22/13
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In article <hlwdjsd2-1DEB19...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
This is info. about the current IRS scandal. Liberal groups such as the
NAACP and the ACLU are not mentioned in this story:
<http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
NAACP and the ACLU are not mentioned in this story:
<http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-aides-knew.html>
Jason
May 22, 2013, 12:59:46 AM5/22/13
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In article <hlwdjsd2-FAD3ED...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
There was a lady on Fox News earlier today. She works for a tea party
organization and said that the IRS harrassed that tea party group for over
a year. She said that the tea party group will be filing a lawsuit against
the IRS in the near future. If they harrassed a liberal organization, you
should tell them to file a lawsuit.
organization and said that the IRS harrassed that tea party group for over
a year. She said that the tea party group will be filing a lawsuit against
the IRS in the near future. If they harrassed a liberal organization, you
should tell them to file a lawsuit.
Jeanne Douglas
May 22, 2013, 1:08:00 AM5/22/13
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In article
<Jason-21051...@66-53-210-190.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
How is asking them to fill out a questionnaire harassment?
<Jason-21051...@66-53-210-190.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Jeanne Douglas
May 22, 2013, 1:08:57 AM5/22/13
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In article
<Jason-21051...@66-53-210-190.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
So what? I'm not talking about the NAACP & ACLU today.
Wow, your reading comprehension problems get worse and worse.
<Jason-21051...@66-53-210-190.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Wow, your reading comprehension problems get worse and worse.
Jason
May 22, 2013, 1:23:18 AM5/22/13
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In article <hlwdjsd2-E634C5...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
She had to send them file folder boxes filled with various types of records.
harry
May 22, 2013, 1:32:56 AM5/22/13
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On May 22, 12:29 am, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <Jason-2105131133560...@67-150-120-40.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> In article
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> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <KRImt.50487$lu5.33...@fe19.iad>, "Stormin Mormon"
> > <cayoung61**NOJUN...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > You love's me so much, that you plonk me?=20
> > > That's not very excepting, of you. WWJP:=20
> > > Who would Jesus plonk?=20
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> > > I think that you, sir, and your husband,=20
> > > should be more excepting. =20
> > > .
> > > Christopher A. Young=20
> > > Learn more about Jesus=20
> > > www.lds.org =20
> > > .
> > > .
> > > "Brother Love" <clovedoc...@mesotouri.edu> wrote in message =
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> > > You love's me so much, that you plonk me?=20
> > > That's not very excepting, of you. WWJP:=20
> > > Who would Jesus plonk?=20
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> > > I think that you, sir, and your husband,=20
> > > should be more excepting. =20
> > > .
> > > Christopher A. Young=20
> > > Learn more about Jesus=20
> > > www.lds.org =20
> > > .
> > > .
> > >news:5n5kp89gbu5vkagcm...@4ax.com...
> > > On Sun, 19 May 2013 18:45:51 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
> > > <cayoung61**NOJUN...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > >Would Jesus leave 42 lines of old text, and then call=20
> > > >someone a name? =20
> > > >.
> > > >Christopher A. Young=20
> > > >Learn more about Jesus=20
> > > > www.lds.org =20
> > > >.
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> > > <PLONK>
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> > <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-...
> > > On Sun, 19 May 2013 18:45:51 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
> > > <cayoung61**NOJUN...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >Would Jesus leave 42 lines of old text, and then call=20
> > > >someone a name? =20
> > > >.
> > > >Christopher A. Young=20
> > > >Learn more about Jesus=20
> > > > www.lds.org =20
> > > >.
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> > > <PLONK>
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> > t-article-1.1349333>
>
> Why are you reporting rumors again?
>
> Why do you refuse to wait for the facts to come out before declaring
> people guilty? Why do you hate America so much?
There are plenty of people have good reason to hate America.
>
> Why are you reporting rumors again?
>
> Why do you refuse to wait for the facts to come out before declaring
> people guilty? Why do you hate America so much?
Jeanne Douglas
May 22, 2013, 2:00:18 AM5/22/13
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On May 21, 9:58 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <knh422$bd...@dont-email.me>,
> "Attila Iskander" <Attila.Iskan...@live.com> wrote:
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> > "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:hlwdjsd2-9C38C3...@news.giganews.com...
> > > In article <Jason-2105131336460...@66.53.222.235>,
> > >> t-article-1.1349333>
>
> > >> > "The Tea Party, The IRS ŒScandal¹ ‹ And The Actual Facts Of The Case"
>
> > >>http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-act...
cases from years ago where it is ALLEGED that the IRS gave a few lib
organizations a hard time. There is no evidence they were
specifically targeted.
In the current case, you have the IRS ADMITTING that they targeted
HUNDREDS of conservative organizations after an Inspector General
investigation forced them to admit it. Oh, and if it's all just an
harmless
mistake that was made in
an attempt to group applications, why is it that Louis Lerner, who
headed
the 501 IRS group has told Congress she will plead the fifth today and
refuse to answer questions?
And why is it that with the IRS having been investigated for over a
year,
they denied there was any problem and lied to Congress the whole time?
Why is it that we only learned of this when Lerner answered a question
that just happened to come up at an American Bar Assoc. meeting in DC,
when she first told those there that the IRS had been targeting
conservatives,
using keywords "Tea Party" and "patriot", among others and she
apologized for it? Why on a conference call with the media later
that day,
when asked why she happened to disclose it there, did she say "Someone
asked a question and I answered it."? Why did we learn just a few
days
later, when the head of the IRS was put under oath in front of
Congress,
that the question was actually planted, the answer she would give
discussed
beforehand and that he, the IRS head, was part of that planting
operation?
Why is it that Obama, like Sgt Schultz, doesn't know anything about
anything?
He claims the white house only learned of this year long investigation
on April 21,
when his counsel was notified. Yet he claims he didn't know anything
about it
until he heard it last week on the news. Really, how dumb does he
think we
all are? And since then, we've already learned that not only did his
counsel
know about it since at least april 21, but also the Sec of Treasury
knew about
it in early March and the Deputy Treas. Secretary knew about it last
June.
Yet, nobody told Obama about what even a moron would know is a major
problem with huge repercussions? Sure, I believe that.......
And then Obama sends his minions out to tell the press that:
A - a president shouldn't know anything that's going on at the IRS
B- when it's discovered that something is very wrong like this, going
back
2 years, that the right thing to do is just wait until someone starts
an
investigation
C - while that investigation is going on, neither the president, nor
sec of
treasury, IRS head, no one should take any action to fix what is an
obvious
serious abuse of power, because it's "still under investigation".
D - the president should just wait until he hears about it on the
news,
good grief!
And if that isn't bad enough, after firing the head of the IRS who was
retiring in 2 months anyway, Obama appoints the #2 guy to take over?
Really? The #2 guy in the same corrupt organization? In private
industry
what would be done is to bring in a CEO from the outside, someone
squeaky clean, to clean up the mess and restore respect. I think
eventually we are gonna get there. So far, the response has been
going down the path of Nixon.
BTW, where is Joe Biden? I hear he's locked up in his bedroom,
staying far, far away from the stench of all Obama's scandals, while
rehearsing
the oath of office so maybe, just maybe he can get through it without
saying something dumb.
> In article <knh422$bd...@dont-email.me>,
> "Attila Iskander" <Attila.Iskan...@live.com> wrote:
>
>
>
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> > "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:hlwdjsd2-9C38C3...@news.giganews.com...
> > > In article <Jason-2105131336460...@66.53.222.235>,
> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > >> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.13...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > >> <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-...
> > >> udi
>
> > >> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.13...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > >> <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-...
> > >> t-article-1.1349333>
>
> > >> > "The Tea Party, The IRS ŒScandal¹ ‹ And The Actual Facts Of The Case"
>
> > >>http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-act...
> > >> cts
> > >> -of-the-case/
>
> > >> > Or:
>
> > >> >http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
>
> > >> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
>
> > >> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
>
> > >> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307...
> > >> -of-the-case/
>
> > >> > Or:
>
> > >> >http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
>
> > >> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
>
> > >> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative organization:
>
> > >> tml
>
> > >> This case is about freedom of the speech.
>
> > >> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
> > >> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
>
> > >> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
> > >> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
>
> > >> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or the
> > >> NAACP.
>
> > > They did.
>
> > Feel free to list the names of those ACLU & NAACP members that were targeted
> > by the IRS.
>
> <http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/irs-targeted-naacp-in-2004-91284.h
> tml>
>
> <http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/when_the_irs_targeted_liberals/>
>
> <http://freakoutnation.com/2013/05/13/bam-two-years-after-the-naacp-criti
> cized-bush-in-2004-the-irs-finally-cleared-their-tax-exempt-status/>
>
> --
>
More Bush Derangement Syndrome. What you have there are a couple of
>
> > >> This case is about freedom of the speech.
>
> > >> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told them they
> > >> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
>
> > >> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible to resign
> > >> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
>
> > >> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of the ACLU or the
> > >> NAACP.
>
> > > They did.
>
> > Feel free to list the names of those ACLU & NAACP members that were targeted
> > by the IRS.
>
> <http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/irs-targeted-naacp-in-2004-91284.h
> tml>
>
> <http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/when_the_irs_targeted_liberals/>
>
> <http://freakoutnation.com/2013/05/13/bam-two-years-after-the-naacp-criti
> cized-bush-in-2004-the-irs-finally-cleared-their-tax-exempt-status/>
>
> --
>
cases from years ago where it is ALLEGED that the IRS gave a few lib
organizations a hard time. There is no evidence they were
specifically targeted.
In the current case, you have the IRS ADMITTING that they targeted
HUNDREDS of conservative organizations after an Inspector General
investigation forced them to admit it. Oh, and if it's all just an
harmless
mistake that was made in
an attempt to group applications, why is it that Louis Lerner, who
headed
the 501 IRS group has told Congress she will plead the fifth today and
refuse to answer questions?
And why is it that with the IRS having been investigated for over a
year,
they denied there was any problem and lied to Congress the whole time?
Why is it that we only learned of this when Lerner answered a question
that just happened to come up at an American Bar Assoc. meeting in DC,
when she first told those there that the IRS had been targeting
conservatives,
using keywords "Tea Party" and "patriot", among others and she
apologized for it? Why on a conference call with the media later
that day,
when asked why she happened to disclose it there, did she say "Someone
asked a question and I answered it."? Why did we learn just a few
days
later, when the head of the IRS was put under oath in front of
Congress,
that the question was actually planted, the answer she would give
discussed
beforehand and that he, the IRS head, was part of that planting
operation?
Why is it that Obama, like Sgt Schultz, doesn't know anything about
anything?
He claims the white house only learned of this year long investigation
on April 21,
when his counsel was notified. Yet he claims he didn't know anything
about it
until he heard it last week on the news. Really, how dumb does he
think we
all are? And since then, we've already learned that not only did his
counsel
know about it since at least april 21, but also the Sec of Treasury
knew about
it in early March and the Deputy Treas. Secretary knew about it last
June.
Yet, nobody told Obama about what even a moron would know is a major
problem with huge repercussions? Sure, I believe that.......
And then Obama sends his minions out to tell the press that:
A - a president shouldn't know anything that's going on at the IRS
B- when it's discovered that something is very wrong like this, going
back
2 years, that the right thing to do is just wait until someone starts
an
investigation
C - while that investigation is going on, neither the president, nor
sec of
treasury, IRS head, no one should take any action to fix what is an
obvious
serious abuse of power, because it's "still under investigation".
D - the president should just wait until he hears about it on the
news,
good grief!
And if that isn't bad enough, after firing the head of the IRS who was
retiring in 2 months anyway, Obama appoints the #2 guy to take over?
Really? The #2 guy in the same corrupt organization? In private
industry
what would be done is to bring in a CEO from the outside, someone
squeaky clean, to clean up the mess and restore respect. I think
eventually we are gonna get there. So far, the response has been
going down the path of Nixon.
BTW, where is Joe Biden? I hear he's locked up in his bedroom,
staying far, far away from the stench of all Obama's scandals, while
rehearsing
the oath of office so maybe, just maybe he can get through it without
saying something dumb.
John Q. Public
May 22, 2013, 5:53:33 AM5/22/13
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On 5/20/2013 9:49 AM, Bob F wrote:
>> .
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>> Learn more about Jesus
>> www.lds.org
>> .
>> .
>> "Brother Love" <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:cngip811nsrrrqggn...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> It's a well-known fact that Range Rovers are better than Cherokees.
>>>
>>> For the price difference, it should be.
>>
>>
>> Hint: There is no free lunch, fool.
>>
>> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
>> Yes! Each and every one of you!
>
> Would Jesus top-post?
>
Verily I say unto thee, posteth not to the top and to the top
shalt thou not posteth. For he who posteth to the bottom
shall be truly blessed.
> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>> Would Jesus leave 42 lines of old text, and then call
>> someone a name?
>> Would Jesus leave 42 lines of old text, and then call
>> .
>> Christopher A. Young
>> Learn more about Jesus
>> www.lds.org
>> .
>> .
>> "Brother Love" <BrotherLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:cngip811nsrrrqggn...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> It's a well-known fact that Range Rovers are better than Cherokees.
>>>
>>> For the price difference, it should be.
>>
>>
>> Hint: There is no free lunch, fool.
>>
>> Always remember: Jesus love's you and so do I!
>> Yes! Each and every one of you!
>
> Would Jesus top-post?
>
Verily I say unto thee, posteth not to the top and to the top
shalt thou not posteth. For he who posteth to the bottom
shall be truly blessed.
tra...@optonline.net
May 22, 2013, 5:54:08 AM5/22/13
to
On May 22, 2:00 am, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <Jason-2105132223180...@66-53-210-190.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> In article
>
>
>
>
>
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <hlwdjsd2-E634C5.22075921052...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
> > Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article
> > > <Jason-2105132159460...@66-53-210-190.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>
> > > In article
> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > In article <hlwdjsd2-FAD3ED.18243621052...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
> > > > Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <Jason-2105131628170...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>
> > > > > In article
> > > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> > > > > > In article <1TRmt.8901$CG1....@newsfe21.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > > > > > > > In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62.9...@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > > > > > > >>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.13...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > > > > > > >>> <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-...
> > > > > > > >>> <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-...
> > > > > > t-article-1.1349333>
>
> > > > > > > >>>> "The Tea Party, The IRS Scandal And The Actual Facts Of
> > > > > > > >>>> The
> > > > > > > >>>> Case"
>
> >http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-act...
>
> > > > > > > >>>> "The Tea Party, The IRS Scandal And The Actual Facts Of
> > > > > > > >>>> The
> > > > > > > >>>> Case"
>
> > > > > > -of-the-case/
>
> > > > > > > >>>> Or:
>
> > > > > > > >>>>http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
>
> > > > > > > >>> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
>
> > > > > > > >>> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative
> > organization:
>
> > <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/white-house-irs-probe_n_3307...
>
> > > > > > > >>>> Or:
>
> > > > > > > >>>>http://tinyurl.com/pj8j7hy
>
> > > > > > > >>> Some people can't handle the truth. This is more of the truth:
>
> > > > > > > >>> I don't believe the Huffington Post is a conservative
> > organization:
>
>
> > > > > > > >>> This case is about freedom of the speech.
>
> > > > > > > >>> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told
> > > > > > > >>> them
> > > > > > > >>> they
> > > > > > > >>> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
>
> > > > > > > >>> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible
> > > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > > >>> resign
> > > > > > > >>> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
>
> > > > > > > >>> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of
> > the ACLU
> > > > > > > >>> or
> > > > > > > > the NAACP.
>
> > > > > > > >> The IRS has targeted the NAACP, and the ACLU, to the best of my
> > > > > > > >> knowledge, isn't tax-exempt.
>
> > > > > > > >> Read this. It shows how your buddies have misused the 501(c)(4)
> > > > > > > >> status,
> > > > > > > >> thus making scrutiny of their political allies reasonable:
>
> >http://www.thenation.com/blog/174458/five-501c4-groups-might-have-bro...
> > > > > > > >>> This case is about freedom of the speech.
>
> > > > > > > >>> Some tea party groups are saying that various members have told
> > > > > > > >>> them
> > > > > > > >>> they
> > > > > > > >>> want to resign so that the IRS will NOT harrass them.
>
> > > > > > > >>> The end goal may have been to cause as many people as possible
> > > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > > >>> resign
> > > > > > > >>> or not joint conservative organizations like tea party groups.
>
> > > > > > > >>> How would you feel if the IRS has targeted the members of
> > the ACLU
> > > > > > > >>> or
> > > > > > > > the NAACP.
>
> > > > > > > >> The IRS has targeted the NAACP, and the ACLU, to the best of my
> > > > > > > >> knowledge, isn't tax-exempt.
>
> > > > > > > >> Read this. It shows how your buddies have misused the 501(c)(4)
> > > > > > > >> status,
> > > > > > > >> thus making scrutiny of their political allies reasonable:
>
> > > > > > xzz2Txie1oFK
>
> > > > > > > > The above seems to be a different issue than the current
> > scandal. In
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > current scandal, the IRS only focused on conservative groups
> > that had
> > > > > > > > certain key words in their title such as these two: "tea party",
> > > > > > > > "patriot".
>
> > > > > > > > The above story appears to me to be about the IRS going after 501
> > > > groups.
> > > > > > > > That is far different than the current IRS scandal.
>
> > > > > > > > Are you trying to change the subject? yes or no
>
> > <http://www.centredaily.com/2013/05/20/3623214/white-house-more-top-ai...
>
> > > > > > > > The above seems to be a different issue than the current
> > scandal. In
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > current scandal, the IRS only focused on conservative groups
> > that had
> > > > > > > > certain key words in their title such as these two: "tea party",
> > > > > > > > "patriot".
>
> > > > > > > > The above story appears to me to be about the IRS going after 501
> > > > groups.
> > > > > > > > That is far different than the current IRS scandal.
>
> > > > > > > > Are you trying to change the subject? yes or no
>
IRS and found that they were targeting conservative groups unfairly.
Because
the IRS, specifically Louis Lerner, who heads the 501 group, publicly
stated
that the IRS had targeted conservative groups, using keywords like
"Tea Party" and "patriot" and apologized for it. What you are trying
to do
is like blaming a rape victim for an attack because they were in the
wrong place at the wrong time.
Oh, and you can stop with the BS that the IRS only denied one
application
and that was for a lib organization. I'm not even sure that's true,
but it matters
not a wit. They didn't have to DENY anything. All they had to do
was NOT
APPROVE the application, while asking endless irrelevant and intrusive
questions for two plus years. Questions like give us a list of all
your members.
Provide us with a list of all your contacts with the media and
transcripts or
videotapes of all interviews. Provide us with a list of all
politicians you've
spoken with...... Provide us a list of the names of all your board
members,
there family members, where those family members work, etc.
BTW, if nothing is wrong, why is Louis Lerner, head of the IRS 501
group going to plead the fifth today before Congress?
>
> --
>
> JD
>
> "Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Where is old Joe? I hear he's hiding in his bedroom, where the
>
> - Show quoted text -
stench
of Benghazi, AP, and IRS can't reach him. He's busy reciting the
presidential
oath of office, hoping he can make it through, without saying
something dumb,
when Obama goes......
Attila Iskander
May 22, 2013, 11:20:16 AM5/22/13
to
"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hlwdjsd2-FAD3ED...@news.giganews.com...
> In article
> <Jason-21051...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>> In article <1TRmt.8901$CG1...@newsfe21.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 5/21/2013 4:07 PM, Jason wrote:
>> > > In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
>> > >>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> > >>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >
>> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audi
>> t-article-1.1349333>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>> "The Tea Party, The IRS �Scandal� � And The Actual Facts Of The
> <Jason-21051...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>> In article <1TRmt.8901$CG1...@newsfe21.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 5/21/2013 4:07 PM, Jason wrote:
>> > > In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
>> > >>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> > >>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >
>> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audi
>> t-article-1.1349333>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >> corporate funds�without disclosing a dime of their contributors. IRS
Or was it turned down because it didn't qualify ?
Just a minor niggly detail that you seem to conveniently ignore
Attila Iskander
May 22, 2013, 11:21:03 AM5/22/13
to
"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hlwdjsd2-E634C5...@news.giganews.com...
> In article
> <Jason-21051...@66-53-210-190.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>> In article <hlwdjsd2-FAD3ED...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>> Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In article
>> > <Jason-21051...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> >
>> > > In article <1TRmt.8901$CG1...@newsfe21.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On 5/21/2013 4:07 PM, Jason wrote:
>> > > > > In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> > > > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
>> > > > >>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> > > > >>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audi
>> > > t-article-1.1349333>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>> "The Tea Party, The IRS �Scandal� � And The Actual Facts Of
> <Jason-21051...@66-53-210-190.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>> In article <hlwdjsd2-FAD3ED...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>> Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In article
>> > <Jason-21051...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> >
>> > > In article <1TRmt.8901$CG1...@newsfe21.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On 5/21/2013 4:07 PM, Jason wrote:
>> > > > > In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> > > > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
>> > > > >>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> > > > >>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audi
>> > > t-article-1.1349333>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >> corporate funds�without disclosing a dime of their contributors.
But once again, a lie by half-truth is still a lie
Attila Iskander
May 22, 2013, 11:23:19 AM5/22/13
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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hlwdjsd2-FBC648...@news.giganews.com...
Funny how as soon as something goes against your ideology, it's
automatically a lie.
k...@attt.bizz
May 22, 2013, 11:37:14 AM5/22/13
to
On Tue, 21 May 2013 22:08:00 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
You're clearly ignorant of the facts in the case. Lefties always are.
Kurt Ullman
May 22, 2013, 12:42:27 PM5/22/13
to
In article <ggppp8l8unrri6e7h...@4ax.com>, k...@attt.bizz
wrote:
>
> >How is asking them to fill out a questionnaire harassment?
>
> You're clearly ignorant of the facts in the case. Lefties always are.
Heck my question in this instance would be how is asking them to fillout
a questionnaire NOT harassment?
--
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late
to work within the system, but too early to shoot
the bastards."-- Claire Wolfe
wrote:
>
> >How is asking them to fill out a questionnaire harassment?
>
> You're clearly ignorant of the facts in the case. Lefties always are.
a questionnaire NOT harassment?
--
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late
to work within the system, but too early to shoot
the bastards."-- Claire Wolfe
k...@attt.bizz
May 22, 2013, 1:11:15 PM5/22/13
to
On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:42:27 -0400, Kurt Ullman <kurtu...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>In article <ggppp8l8unrri6e7h...@4ax.com>, k...@attt.bizz
>wrote:
>
>>
>> >How is asking them to fill out a questionnaire harassment?
>>
>> You're clearly ignorant of the facts in the case. Lefties always are.
>
>Heck my question in this instance would be how is asking them to fillout
>a questionnaire NOT harassment?
You mean like "Name everyone you associate with?" or "What is the
content of your prayers?"? "Innocent little things like that?
wrote:
>In article <ggppp8l8unrri6e7h...@4ax.com>, k...@attt.bizz
>wrote:
>
>>
>> >How is asking them to fill out a questionnaire harassment?
>>
>> You're clearly ignorant of the facts in the case. Lefties always are.
>
>Heck my question in this instance would be how is asking them to fillout
>a questionnaire NOT harassment?
content of your prayers?"? "Innocent little things like that?
tra...@optonline.net
May 22, 2013, 1:37:14 PM5/22/13
to
On May 22, 1:11 pm, k...@attt.bizz wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:42:27 -0400, Kurt Ullman <kurtull...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <ggppp8l8unrri6e7hcco5g7466gfboj...@4ax.com>, k...@attt.bizz
some of the examples I've heard were "provide us with a list
of all your media contacts and transcripts or video tapes of
any interviews". Or, "list all politicians that your organization
has had contact with". It's really, really funny
to watch the libs, who are the first ones to scream bloody
murder over any intrusion on civil rights, either real or
imagined, sit there and defend what's going on here.
And then you have Benghazi, where 8 months later, we
still don't know anything about what Obama did or did not
do after 5PM, which was the time the attack on the
consulate started. If they aren't hiding something, like
that he was completely uninvolved for the duration, then
why don't we have a simple timeline from 5PM for the
next 8 hours or so of who he talked to, any orders given,
etc?
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:42:27 -0400, Kurt Ullman <kurtull...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <ggppp8l8unrri6e7hcco5g7466gfboj...@4ax.com>, k...@attt.bizz
> >wrote:
>
> >> >How is asking them to fill out a questionnaire harassment?
>
> >> You're clearly ignorant of the facts in the case. Lefties always are.
>
> >Heck my question in this instance would be how is asking them to fillout
> >a questionnaire NOT harassment?
>
> You mean like "Name everyone you associate with?" or "What is the
> content of your prayers?"? "Innocent little things like that?
If the questions were routine, that would be one thing. But
>
> >> >How is asking them to fill out a questionnaire harassment?
>
> >> You're clearly ignorant of the facts in the case. Lefties always are.
>
> >Heck my question in this instance would be how is asking them to fillout
> >a questionnaire NOT harassment?
>
> You mean like "Name everyone you associate with?" or "What is the
> content of your prayers?"? "Innocent little things like that?
some of the examples I've heard were "provide us with a list
of all your media contacts and transcripts or video tapes of
any interviews". Or, "list all politicians that your organization
has had contact with". It's really, really funny
to watch the libs, who are the first ones to scream bloody
murder over any intrusion on civil rights, either real or
imagined, sit there and defend what's going on here.
And then you have Benghazi, where 8 months later, we
still don't know anything about what Obama did or did not
do after 5PM, which was the time the attack on the
consulate started. If they aren't hiding something, like
that he was completely uninvolved for the duration, then
why don't we have a simple timeline from 5PM for the
next 8 hours or so of who he talked to, any orders given,
etc?
Attila Iskander
May 22, 2013, 2:28:29 PM5/22/13
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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hlwdjsd2-E95C7A...@news.giganews.com...
> In article
> <Jason-21051...@66-53-210-190.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
>> In article <hlwdjsd2-E634C5...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>> Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In article
>> > <Jason-21051...@66-53-210-190.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>>
>> > In article
>> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> >
>> > > In article <hlwdjsd2-FAD3ED...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>> > > Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > In article
>> > >
>> > > > In article
>> > > > <Jason-21051...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > In article <1TRmt.8901$CG1...@newsfe21.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> > > > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On 5/21/2013 4:07 PM, Jason wrote:
>> > > > > > > In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> > > > > > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
>> > > > > > >>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom
>> > > > > > >>> McDonald
>> > > > > > >>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audi
>> > > > > t-article-1.1349333>
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > >>>> "The Tea Party, The IRS �Scandal� � And The Actual Facts
>> > > > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On 5/21/2013 4:07 PM, Jason wrote:
>> > > > > > > In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
>> > > > > > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
>> > > > > > >>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom
>> > > > > > >>> McDonald
>> > > > > > >>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> <http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audi
>> > > > > t-article-1.1349333>
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > > >> in
>> > > > > > >> corporate funds�without disclosing a dime of their
>> > How is asking them to fill out a questionnaire harassment?
>>
>>
>> She had to send them file folder boxes filled with various types of
>> records.
>
> How do you know she wasn't trying to break the law on 501(c)s?
>
Why do you presume she was..
>> records.
>
> How do you know she wasn't trying to break the law on 501(c)s?
>
After all the only group that was actually turned down was a liberal one.
Most likely an ACORN spinoff too..
k...@attt.bizz
May 22, 2013, 2:30:44 PM5/22/13
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the Stinger missiles *STATE* had given to Al Quida, who ended up
killing them).
Jason
May 22, 2013, 6:27:49 PM5/22/13
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In article <kninjd$cm$1...@dont-email.me>, "Attila Iskander"
> >> > >> operated as Super PACs—raising and spending tens of millions in
> >> > >> corporate funds—without disclosing a dime of their contributors. IRS
Don't confuse liberals with facts. It causes them to get migraine headaches.
<Attila....@live.com> wrote:
> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-FAD3ED...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article
> > <Jason-21051...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> >> In article <1TRmt.8901$CG1...@newsfe21.iad>, Tom McDonald
> >> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 5/21/2013 4:07 PM, Jason wrote:
> >> > > In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
> >> > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
> >> > >>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> >> > >>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >
> >>
<http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audi
> >> t-article-1.1349333>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>> "The Tea Party, The IRS ‘Scandal’ — And The Actual Facts Of The
> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-FAD3ED...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article
> > <Jason-21051...@66-53-208-138.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >
> >> In article <1TRmt.8901$CG1...@newsfe21.iad>, Tom McDonald
> >> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 5/21/2013 4:07 PM, Jason wrote:
> >> > > In article <l3Rmt.10657$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
> >> > > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> On 5/21/2013 3:35 PM, Jason wrote:
> >> > >>> In article <vJPmt.17550$nm.1...@newsfe14.iad>, Tom McDonald
> >> > >>> <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >
> >>
<http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/top-white-house-aides-obama-irs-audi
> >> t-article-1.1349333>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >> corporate funds—without disclosing a dime of their contributors. IRS
Jason
May 22, 2013, 6:33:42 PM5/22/13
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In article <CpWdnX4NGOnsaAHM...@earthlink.com>, Kurt Ullman
send the IRS file folder boxes filled with various types of data that the
IRS demanded. That means she had to make millions of copies of various
documents.
It was harrassment to the max. That is why she is planning to file a
lawsuit since the IRS spokesman had admitted they were harrassing
conservative organizations.
<kurtu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <ggppp8l8unrri6e7h...@4ax.com>, k...@attt.bizz
> wrote:
>
> >
> > >How is asking them to fill out a questionnaire harassment?
> >
> > You're clearly ignorant of the facts in the case. Lefties always are.
>
> Heck my question in this instance would be how is asking them to fillout
> a questionnaire NOT harassment?
The lady that worked for a tea party organization claimed that she had to
> In article <ggppp8l8unrri6e7h...@4ax.com>, k...@attt.bizz
> wrote:
>
> >
> > >How is asking them to fill out a questionnaire harassment?
> >
> > You're clearly ignorant of the facts in the case. Lefties always are.
>
> Heck my question in this instance would be how is asking them to fillout
> a questionnaire NOT harassment?
send the IRS file folder boxes filled with various types of data that the
IRS demanded. That means she had to make millions of copies of various
documents.
It was harrassment to the max. That is why she is planning to file a
lawsuit since the IRS spokesman had admitted they were harrassing
conservative organizations.
HeyBub
May 22, 2013, 6:38:45 PM5/22/13
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Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>
>> I don't believe it was against the law or the IRS rules to go after
>> 501 organizations since some of those those orgarizations were
>> liberal and some were conservative. The story would only be the same
>> if they only targeted liberal 501 organzations and totally ignored
>> conservative 501 organizations.
>
> Which they did do.
>
> I'm still waiting for your reaction to the fact that the only group
> that the IRS turned down was a liberal one.
Approval delayed is approval denied.
>>
>> I don't believe it was against the law or the IRS rules to go after
>> 501 organizations since some of those those orgarizations were
>> liberal and some were conservative. The story would only be the same
>> if they only targeted liberal 501 organzations and totally ignored
>> conservative 501 organizations.
>
> Which they did do.
>
> I'm still waiting for your reaction to the fact that the only group
> that the IRS turned down was a liberal one.
Some applicants have been waiting up to three years for a determination.
Tom McDonald
May 22, 2013, 6:43:57 PM5/22/13
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What was the average wait time before then? What was the average work
load of case investigators, before and after that date?
These things are necessary to understand the situation.
Jason
May 22, 2013, 6:48:37 PM5/22/13
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In article <yuudnW0RnrX11QDM...@earthlink.com>, "HeyBub"
We need more info. about that liberal group. For example, did they
complete the proper forms? Did they do everything that they were required
to do to be labelled a 501 organization?
The IRS made have had a good reason for turning down the liberal
organization. If the liberal organization believes the IRS should have
approved them, they should file a lawsuit.
complete the proper forms? Did they do everything that they were required
to do to be labelled a 501 organization?
The IRS made have had a good reason for turning down the liberal
organization. If the liberal organization believes the IRS should have
approved them, they should file a lawsuit.
Tom McDonald
May 22, 2013, 6:51:44 PM5/22/13
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butt-hurt about? If we need more info on the liberal group to understand
if it was properly denied a tax-exempt status, shouldn't we also need to
know more about the radical right-wing crazies' situations to know
whether they needed the scrutiny they got?
Yes or no.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Jason
May 22, 2013, 7:02:54 PM5/22/13
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In article <b_bnt.14671$cD1....@newsfe29.iad>, Tom McDonald
That's a good question. As a result of your question, I re-read the
article that was in yesterday's newspaper. I copied this line from the
article:
"The inspector general's audit..."
That means to me that the inspector general examined the IRS records and
found evidence that conservative groups such as tea party organizations
were targeted.
That's good enough for me. Is it good enough for you?
The IRS spokesman apologized for targeting conservative organizations.
That is an indication of guilt.
The article did not discuss the liberal organization mentioned in the
above post so we don't know about that case.
article that was in yesterday's newspaper. I copied this line from the
article:
"The inspector general's audit..."
That means to me that the inspector general examined the IRS records and
found evidence that conservative groups such as tea party organizations
were targeted.
That's good enough for me. Is it good enough for you?
The IRS spokesman apologized for targeting conservative organizations.
That is an indication of guilt.
The article did not discuss the liberal organization mentioned in the
above post so we don't know about that case.
Tom McDonald
May 22, 2013, 7:18:59 PM5/22/13
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k...@attt.bizz
May 22, 2013, 8:29:53 PM5/22/13
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wallet?".
k...@attt.bizz
May 22, 2013, 8:32:16 PM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 17:43:57 -0500, Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The delay was negative in the case of Milhouse Obama's brother.
>These things are necessary to understand the situation.
Keep spinning. Your obviously quite dizzy already, though.
wrote:
>These things are necessary to understand the situation.
Jason
May 22, 2013, 8:58:28 PM5/22/13
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In article <Jncnt.8835$bK1...@newsfe11.iad>, Tom McDonald
Yes. I clearly stated that the inspector general's audit examined the
files of the IRS and got this information from those files:
files of the IRS and got this information from those files:
Jason
May 22, 2013, 9:00:20 PM5/22/13
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k...@attt.bizz
May 22, 2013, 9:13:27 PM5/22/13
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bells start ringing.
Tom McDonald
May 22, 2013, 9:29:28 PM5/22/13
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agreed we needed when you wrote 'Yes", above.
Jeanne Douglas
May 22, 2013, 9:45:18 PM5/22/13
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In article <0poqp8td3m70kg0pi...@4ax.com>, k...@attt.bizz
wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 17:43:57 -0500, Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 5/22/2013 5:38 PM, HeyBub wrote:
> >> Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't believe it was against the law or the IRS rules to go after
> >>>> 501 organizations since some of those those orgarizations were
> >>>> liberal and some were conservative. The story would only be the same
> >>>> if they only targeted liberal 501 organzations and totally ignored
> >>>> conservative 501 organizations.
> >>>
> >>> Which they did do.
> >>>
> >>> I'm still waiting for your reaction to the fact that the only group
> >>> that the IRS turned down was a liberal one.
> >>
> >> Approval delayed is approval denied.
> >>
> >> Some applicants have been waiting up to three years for a determination.
> >>
> >>
> >So what is the average wait time overall for all applicants since 2009?
> >What was the average wait time before then? What was the average work
> >load of case investigators, before and after that date?
>
> The delay was negative in the case of Milhouse Obama's brother.
Who the hell is Milhouse Obama?
wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 17:43:57 -0500, Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 5/22/2013 5:38 PM, HeyBub wrote:
> >> Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't believe it was against the law or the IRS rules to go after
> >>>> 501 organizations since some of those those orgarizations were
> >>>> liberal and some were conservative. The story would only be the same
> >>>> if they only targeted liberal 501 organzations and totally ignored
> >>>> conservative 501 organizations.
> >>>
> >>> Which they did do.
> >>>
> >>> I'm still waiting for your reaction to the fact that the only group
> >>> that the IRS turned down was a liberal one.
> >>
> >> Approval delayed is approval denied.
> >>
> >> Some applicants have been waiting up to three years for a determination.
> >>
> >>
> >So what is the average wait time overall for all applicants since 2009?
> >What was the average wait time before then? What was the average work
> >load of case investigators, before and after that date?
>
> The delay was negative in the case of Milhouse Obama's brother.
k...@attt.bizz
May 22, 2013, 10:05:23 PM5/22/13
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Attila Iskander
May 22, 2013, 11:17:37 PM5/22/13
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"HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:yuudnW0RnrX11QDM...@earthlink.com...
Many quit trying too.
news:yuudnW0RnrX11QDM...@earthlink.com...
Jeanne Douglas
May 22, 2013, 11:29:57 PM5/22/13
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Jeanne Douglas
May 23, 2013, 2:02:10 AM5/23/13
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In article <knk1jm$rd0$1...@dont-email.me>,
See, though, it's all completely irrelevant. It turns out it's not
necessary to petition the IRS for approval. Watch an actual lawyer
expert in the subject explain it:
<http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/426445/may-20-201
3/mazda-scandal-booth---the-irs---trevor-potter>
or
<http://bit.ly/16IDlOv>
necessary to petition the IRS for approval. Watch an actual lawyer
expert in the subject explain it:
<http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/426445/may-20-201
3/mazda-scandal-booth---the-irs---trevor-potter>
or
<http://bit.ly/16IDlOv>
Jason
May 23, 2013, 3:26:02 AM5/23/13
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In article <3ient.11576$T62....@newsfe08.iad>, Tom McDonald
We don't have the information but the inspector general's audit team DID
have the information that you are discussing.
have the information that you are discussing.
Jason
May 23, 2013, 3:29:27 AM5/23/13
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applying for the Social Security Disability program. I know at least three
people that had to wait over three years before getting approved. All
three of those people are totally disabled. They probably have experts
that have told them that if they wait three or more years before approving
patients that about 50% of the applicants will give up and drop out.
Kurt Ullman
May 23, 2013, 9:11:11 AM5/23/13
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> >Who the hell is Milhouse Obama?
>
> How the hell dumb are you?
Oh man, just enlighten the dude so the rest of us don't have to go
>
> How the hell dumb are you?
through the back and forth until the lightbulb goes on (grin).
--
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late
to work within the system, but too early to shoot
the bastards."-- Claire Wolfe
Attila Iskander
May 23, 2013, 9:31:27 AM5/23/13
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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hlwdjsd2-B92FF1...@news.giganews.com...
> In article <knk1jm$rd0$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "Attila Iskander" <Attila....@live.com> wrote:
>
>> "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:yuudnW0RnrX11QDM...@earthlink.com...
>> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't believe it was against the law or the IRS rules to go after
>> >>> 501 organizations since some of those those orgarizations were
>> >>> liberal and some were conservative. The story would only be the same
>> >>> if they only targeted liberal 501 organzations and totally ignored
>> >>> conservative 501 organizations.
>> >>
>> >> Which they did do.
>> >>
>> >> I'm still waiting for your reaction to the fact that the only group
>> >> that the IRS turned down was a liberal one.
>> >
>> > Approval delayed is approval denied.
>> >
>> > Some applicants have been waiting up to three years for a
>> > determination.
>> >
>>
>> Many quit trying too.
>
>
> "Attila Iskander" <Attila....@live.com> wrote:
>
>> "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:yuudnW0RnrX11QDM...@earthlink.com...
>> > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't believe it was against the law or the IRS rules to go after
>> >>> 501 organizations since some of those those orgarizations were
>> >>> liberal and some were conservative. The story would only be the same
>> >>> if they only targeted liberal 501 organzations and totally ignored
>> >>> conservative 501 organizations.
>> >>
>> >> Which they did do.
>> >>
>> >> I'm still waiting for your reaction to the fact that the only group
>> >> that the IRS turned down was a liberal one.
>> >
>> > Approval delayed is approval denied.
>> >
>> > Some applicants have been waiting up to three years for a
>> > determination.
>> >
>>
>> Many quit trying too.
>
>
> See, though, it's all completely irrelevant. It turns out it's not
> necessary to petition the IRS for approval. Watch an actual lawyer
> expert in the subject explain it:
>
> <http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/426445/may-20-201
> 3/mazda-scandal-booth---the-irs---trevor-potter>
>
> or
>
> <http://bit.ly/16IDlOv>
>
colbertnation ???
> necessary to petition the IRS for approval. Watch an actual lawyer
> expert in the subject explain it:
>
> <http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/426445/may-20-201
> 3/mazda-scandal-booth---the-irs---trevor-potter>
>
> or
>
> <http://bit.ly/16IDlOv>
>
Are you really this dumb ??
Oh wait,
....
tra...@optonline.net
May 23, 2013, 9:34:57 AM5/23/13
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On May 22, 6:51 pm, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/22/2013 5:48 PM, Jason wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <yuudnW0RnrX11QDMnZ2dnUVZ_h6dn...@earthlink.com>, "HeyBub"
> On 5/22/2013 5:48 PM, Jason wrote:
>
>
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Ask the Insepctor General, who looked into the whole thing for
over a year and concluded that had unfairly targeted conservative
groups.
Or ask the IRS themselves, who admitted they unfairly targeted
conservative groups and issued an apology. You remember....
The apology that just happened to come at the American Bar Assoc.
conference in DC in response to a question from someone in the
audience. It only took about a week for it to be discovered the
question and answer were planted and planned by the IRS,
including the head of the IRS.
And just another few days more to learn that the planting and
planning of that fake question involved not only IRS, but senior
White House staff. Gee, I wonder what we'll find out in the
next week, month and year?
was not just the
tra...@optonline.net
May 23, 2013, 9:46:44 AM5/23/13
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On May 23, 3:29 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <knk1jm$rd...@dont-email.me>, "Attila Iskander"
> patients that about 50% of the applicants will give up and drop out.- Hide quoted text -
He's paid into the system for 30+ years and never collected a dime.
He worked in NYC, but lives in NJ. First they gave him incorrect info
as to which state to apply in. Then, because he applied in NJ,
instead
of someone simply telling him to apply in NY, they essentailly just
kept saying, we're working on it, just wait. That went on for months.
Then they finally said "Oh, you need to apply in NY". Then NY
started
jerking him around. They finally set up an interview for him to come
in
to speak with them. He couldn't make the meeting, so he told them
he needed to reschedule it. They asked why and he told them
the truth, which was that he was going to a job interview overseas.
Well, guess what happens then? Now you go into the special pile
for an investigation..... wtf? You would think they would be happy
that one is looking for a job anywhere..... He just had his
interview,
but that is just the normal interview. He still has no meeting
scheduled
with those conducting the "investigation" and hasn't received a dime,
nor will he until the "investigators" say he's eligible. This BS has
been going on for over 8 months now....
I think the real issue here is they know this guy was making
a six figure salary, so they figure screw him. On the other hand,
you have people sitting on their asses, choosing not to work, who
know exactly how to game the system, collecting...... Collecting
that and all kinds of handouts, eg welfare, food stamps.....
> In article <knk1jm$rd...@dont-email.me>, "Attila Iskander"
>
> - Show quoted text -
A friend of mine is trying to qualify for unemployment benefits in NY.
> - Show quoted text -
He's paid into the system for 30+ years and never collected a dime.
He worked in NYC, but lives in NJ. First they gave him incorrect info
as to which state to apply in. Then, because he applied in NJ,
instead
of someone simply telling him to apply in NY, they essentailly just
kept saying, we're working on it, just wait. That went on for months.
Then they finally said "Oh, you need to apply in NY". Then NY
started
jerking him around. They finally set up an interview for him to come
in
to speak with them. He couldn't make the meeting, so he told them
he needed to reschedule it. They asked why and he told them
the truth, which was that he was going to a job interview overseas.
Well, guess what happens then? Now you go into the special pile
for an investigation..... wtf? You would think they would be happy
that one is looking for a job anywhere..... He just had his
interview,
but that is just the normal interview. He still has no meeting
scheduled
with those conducting the "investigation" and hasn't received a dime,
nor will he until the "investigators" say he's eligible. This BS has
been going on for over 8 months now....
I think the real issue here is they know this guy was making
a six figure salary, so they figure screw him. On the other hand,
you have people sitting on their asses, choosing not to work, who
know exactly how to game the system, collecting...... Collecting
that and all kinds of handouts, eg welfare, food stamps.....
k...@attt.bizz
May 23, 2013, 1:04:26 PM5/23/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:29:57 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
Oh, you're *THAT* dumb.
http://spectator.org/blog/2013/05/15/richard-milhouse-obama
http://spectator.org/blog/2013/05/15/richard-milhouse-obama
Tom McDonald
May 23, 2013, 2:39:52 PM5/23/13
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Hard as it may be to believe, there are some people in the world who
don't hang on every word that comes out of the mouths of your operators.
Hell, there are even a few people in the world who aren't American!
Oh, sorry. Here's a smelling salts ampule.
Attila Iskander
May 23, 2013, 2:52:29 PM5/23/13
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"Tom McDonald" <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4otnt.3837$Ju6....@newsfe22.iad...
Tom
I would suspect that your advice is even more applicable to all on the left
of the spectrum, no matter which label, progressive, liberal, etc. they hide
under
news:4otnt.3837$Ju6....@newsfe22.iad...
I would suspect that your advice is even more applicable to all on the left
of the spectrum, no matter which label, progressive, liberal, etc. they hide
under
Tom McDonald
May 23, 2013, 3:01:06 PM5/23/13
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left as I do on the right. Take a look at how most right-wingers
actually thought Romney would win, right up until the night of the
election.
If you look at the relative rate of Koolaide-drinking, I suspect
(there's that word again!) that the right drinks a bunch more of it than
the left.
k...@attt.bizz
May 23, 2013, 4:18:37 PM5/23/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:39:52 -0500, Tom McDonald <kil...@gmail.com>
Facts are always painful to lefties.
>Hard as it may be to believe, there are some people in the world who
>don't hang on every word that comes out of the mouths of your operators.
>Hell, there are even a few people in the world who aren't American!
Hard as it is for you to believe, some of us learn from history.
>Oh, sorry. Here's a smelling salts ampule.
Sorry, won't work for you. All lefties are brain-dead.
>Hard as it may be to believe, there are some people in the world who
>don't hang on every word that comes out of the mouths of your operators.
>Hell, there are even a few people in the world who aren't American!
>Oh, sorry. Here's a smelling salts ampule.
Syd M.
May 23, 2013, 4:27:22 PM5/23/13
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On May 23, 4:18 pm, k...@attt.bizz wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:39:52 -0500, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com>
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> >>> In article <hauqp8dgokc84r32o0roqojb5olnofd...@4ax.com>, k...@attt.bizz
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> >>>>> In article <0poqp8td3m70kg0picpugeghb51pd38...@4ax.com>, k...@attt.bizz
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> >>>>>> On Wed, 22 May 2013 17:43:57 -0500, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com>
You misspelled 'rightards', rightard.
PDW
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:39:52 -0500, Tom McDonald <kilt...@gmail.com>
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> >On 5/23/2013 12:04 PM, k...@attt.bizz wrote:
> >> On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:29:57 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
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> >On 5/23/2013 12:04 PM, k...@attt.bizz wrote:
> >> On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:29:57 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
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> >>> In article <hauqp8dgokc84r32o0roqojb5olnofd...@4ax.com>, k...@attt.bizz
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> >>>> On Wed, 22 May 2013 18:45:18 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> >>>> <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
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> >>>>> In article <0poqp8td3m70kg0picpugeghb51pd38...@4ax.com>, k...@attt.bizz
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PDW
k...@attt.bizz
May 23, 2013, 4:42:47 PM5/23/13
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Free Lunch
May 23, 2013, 7:02:06 PM5/23/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 22:17:37 -0500, "Attila Iskander"
<Attila....@live.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
The interpretation of the law is absurd. No political organization
should be able to get a 501(c) exemption.
<Attila....@live.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
should be able to get a 501(c) exemption.
tra...@optonline.net
May 23, 2013, 7:10:58 PM5/23/13
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On May 23, 7:02 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 22:17:37 -0500, "Attila Iskander"
> <Attila.Iskan...@live.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 22:17:37 -0500, "Attila Iskander"
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> - Show quoted text -
Does that include Planned Parent Hood and Move On.Org?
> - Show quoted text -
Tom McDonald
May 23, 2013, 7:49:14 PM5/23/13
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operation?
Jason
May 23, 2013, 7:55:28 PM5/23/13
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In article
<a2f97063-cfa7-4554...@g7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
"tra...@optonline.net" <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On May 23, 3:29=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <knk1jm$rd...@dont-email.me>, "Attila Iskander"
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> > <Attila.Iskan...@live.com> wrote:
> > > "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:yuudnW0RnrX11QDM...@earthlink.com...
> > > > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
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> > > >>> I don't believe it was against the law or the IRS rules to go after
> > > >>> 501 organizations since some of those those orgarizations were
> > > >>> liberal and some were conservative. The story would only be the sam=
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> > patients that about 50% of the applicants will give up and drop out.- Hid=
It's a effort to cause him to get so frustrated that he will give up and
drop out. The experts have advised them they can save millions of dollars
by not granting their clients with disability payments. The end goal is to
cause at least 50% of their clients to drop out and give up. You should
advise him to keep trying and to not give up.
<a2f97063-cfa7-4554...@g7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
"tra...@optonline.net" <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On May 23, 3:29=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <knk1jm$rd...@dont-email.me>, "Attila Iskander"
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> > <Attila.Iskan...@live.com> wrote:
> > > "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:yuudnW0RnrX11QDM...@earthlink.com...
> > > > Jeanne Douglas wrote:
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> > > >>> I don't believe it was against the law or the IRS rules to go after
> > > >>> 501 organizations since some of those those orgarizations were
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> > > >>> if they only targeted liberal 501 organzations and totally ignored
> > > >>> conservative 501 organizations.
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> > > >> Which they did do.
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> > > >> I'm still waiting for your reaction to the fact that the only group
> > > >> that the IRS turned down was a liberal one.
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> > > > Approval delayed is approval denied.
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> > > > Some applicants have been waiting up to three years for a determinati=
> > > >>> if they only targeted liberal 501 organzations and totally ignored
> > > >>> conservative 501 organizations.
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> > > >> Which they did do.
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> > > >> I'm still waiting for your reaction to the fact that the only group
> > > >> that the IRS turned down was a liberal one.
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> > > > Approval delayed is approval denied.
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> on.
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> > > Many quit trying too.
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> > The Social Security staff members do the exact same thing with people
> > applying for the Social Security Disability program. I know at least thre=
> >
> > > Many quit trying too.
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> > The Social Security staff members do the exact same thing with people
> e
> > people that had to wait over three years before getting approved. All
> > three of those people are totally disabled. They probably have experts
> > that have told them that if they wait three or more years before approvin=
> > people that had to wait over three years before getting approved. All
> > three of those people are totally disabled. They probably have experts
> g
> > patients that about 50% of the applicants will give up and drop out.- Hid=
drop out. The experts have advised them they can save millions of dollars
by not granting their clients with disability payments. The end goal is to
cause at least 50% of their clients to drop out and give up. You should
advise him to keep trying and to not give up.
Attila Iskander
May 23, 2013, 7:52:42 PM5/23/13
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"Tom McDonald" <kil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ZHtnt.19421$KM4....@newsfe25.iad...
> Take a look at how most right-wingers actually thought Romney would win,
> right up until the night of the election.
>
And they haven't got over it and a great many still suffer from Bush
Derangement Syndrome
> If you look at the relative rate of Koolaide-drinking, I suspect (there's
> that word again!) that the right drinks a bunch more of it than the left.
LOL
Myopia, thy name is pinky..
<snicker>
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