Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome.
Atheists are fools
Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote would
attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill is
nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then he
would leave people like me alone. After all, if God did not exist, He and
His followers would be no enemy to the atheist. We'd just be deluded people.
Therefore IF the atheist REALLY believes there is no God and the fool
attacks a Christian, then he has the Don Quixote Syndrome because the
Christian is not his enemy. Nevertheless, God is real and THAT is why
atheists have all these organizations and debates to "prove" that God does
not exist. Atheist reader, if you would just be true to what you purport to
believe, then you wouldn't have the Don Quixote Syndrome.
My old pastor once ministered to an old atheist who had been a card-carrying
atheist for decades--but as he laid on his death bed, he wanted a pastor. I
don't know if he got saved or not. When it's time to die, many atheists are
understandably uneasy and those that aren't should be terrified.
There is hope for the atheist. He can be saved. In fact, there are plenty of
atheists that have come to Jesus Christ. I refuse to argue with them, but
will answer honest questions. Unfortunately, many atheists ignorantly say
hard things against the Lord Jesus Christ and His people. Don't let fancy
titles and big words shake your faith in the One who holds your eternal
destiny.
--
www.atheistfools.com
SPIRITUAL WARFARE HAS NEVER BEEN THIS MUCH FUN!
Levy Oates
<ath...@blindasabat.org> wrote:
>If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then he
>would leave people like me alone.
If you want to be left alone then go away.
>My old pastor once ministered to an old atheist who had been a card-carrying
>atheist for decades--but as he laid on his death bed, he wanted a pastor. I
>don't know if he got saved or not. When it's time to die, many atheists are
>understandably uneasy and those that aren't should be terrified.
Yep, I now, thousands of millions of squillions of atheists that got saved on
their death beds. They told me so.
>There is hope for the atheist. He can be saved. In fact, there are plenty of
>atheists that have come to Jesus Christ. I refuse to argue with them, but
>will answer honest questions. Unfortunately, many atheists ignorantly say
>hard things against the Lord Jesus Christ and His people. Don't let fancy
>titles and big words shake your faith in the One who holds your eternal
>destiny.
Worship Bumble. Come to know the truth and you will be at peace. As long as you
continue in your idolatry of your false god you will continue to be troubled.
---------
Archdeacom Levy Oates
On behalf of the Prophet Eric Peabody (pbuh)
Basingstoke, England
http://www.angelfire.com/alt/bumblism/
Lars Eighner
<ob_Oc.1145$wU5.1...@news.uswest.net>,
the lovely and talented Atheists are fools
broadcast on alt.atheism:
> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me explain.
> Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote would
> attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill is
> nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then he
> would leave people like me alone. After all, if God did not exist, He and
> His followers would be no enemy to the atheist.
History is repleat with evidence that christians will shed blood for
their delusion.
> We'd just be deluded people.
Trying to enforce their delusions on others at the point of a sword.
> Therefore IF the atheist REALLY believes there is no God and the fool
> attacks a Christian, then he has the Don Quixote Syndrome because the
> Christian is not his enemy.
Christians are the enemies of all humankind.
> Nevertheless, God is real and THAT is why
> atheists have all these organizations and debates to "prove" that God does
> not exist. Atheist reader, if you would just be true to what you purport to
> believe, then you wouldn't have the Don Quixote Syndrome.
God is not real. But the attempts of christians to subvert the state
to their own purposes are very real.
> My old pastor once ministered to an old atheist who had been a card-carrying
> atheist for decades--but as he laid on his death bed, he wanted a pastor. I
> don't know if he got saved or not. When it's time to die, many atheists are
> understandably uneasy and those that aren't should be terrified.
Bullshit.
--
Rev. Lars Eighner, ULC, Atheist #1965 eig...@io.com http://www.io.com/~eighner
"I hope I never get so old I get religious." --Ingmar Bergman
John Baker
"Atheists are fools" <ath...@blindasabat.org> wrote in message
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> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome.
And most theists have what I call the No Living Brain Cells Syndrome.
Fuck off, Raytard.
raven1
<ath...@blindasabat.org> wrote:
>Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me explain.
>Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote would
>attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill is
>nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then he
>would leave people like me alone.
As another Irony-o-meter dies a whimpering death...
Kate
wrote:
>In our last episode,
><ob_Oc.1145$wU5.1...@news.uswest.net>,
>the lovely and talented Atheists are fools
>broadcast on alt.atheism:
>
>> My old pastor once ministered to an old atheist who had been a card-carrying
>> atheist for decades--but as he laid on his death bed, he wanted a pastor. I
>> don't know if he got saved or not. When it's time to die, many atheists are
>> understandably uneasy and those that aren't should be terrified.
>
>Bullshit.
A card carrying atheist? All right, who issues cards? The
anti-theism Pope?
So apparently this idiot quaking about all the gods he didn't worship?
Must take a long time for him to die. Is that why he won't go away?
Dave Oldridge
"Atheists are fools" <ath...@blindasabat.org> wrote in
news:ob_Oc.1145$wU5.1...@news.uswest.net:
> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me
> explain. Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don
> Quixote would attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course
> a windmill is nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY
> his belief, then he would leave people like me alone. After all, if
Actually, since you're posting this crap to alt.atheism, it's not
surprising that they won't leave you alone. You are walking into a room
full of shooters with a target painted on you and a sign on your forehead
that says "Fundy Hypocrite, fire at will."
> God did not exist, He and His followers would be no enemy to the
> atheist. We'd just be deluded people. Therefore IF the atheist REALLY
Well, your delusions are many. Whether that particular belief is
actually a delusion is not provable.
> believes there is no God and the fool attacks a Christian, then he has
> the Don Quixote Syndrome because the Christian is not his enemy.
Now that's probably true. Most REAL Christians won't go around attacking
atheists deliberately like you do. But you see, you aren't a Christian.
Whatever you really are, you're only PLAYING a Christian on the internet.
Measured against the actual teachings of Jesus Christ, your behaviour
falls well short and there is no sign that you are actually even trying
to measure up.
> Nevertheless, God is real and THAT is why atheists have all these
> organizations and debates to "prove" that God does not exist. Atheist
> reader, if you would just be true to what you purport to believe, then
> you wouldn't have the Don Quixote Syndrome.
Gosh. Do you suppose? Maybe God isn't real (or isn't what you think)
and that's why fundies have all these organizations and debates to
"prove" that God does exist. Frankly, most atheists I know are quite
happy to leave me to my Christianity. Sure, there's a few lunatics who
are just as fundamentalist as you are, but they are few and far between,
whereas people like you are all too common and there seems to be a whole
collection of teachers turning you out, like pimps turning out
prostitutes.
> My old pastor once ministered to an old atheist who had been a
> card-carrying atheist for decades--but as he laid on his death bed, he
> wanted a pastor. I don't know if he got saved or not. When it's time
> to die, many atheists are understandably uneasy and those that aren't
> should be terrified.
I can't speak for atheists, not being one. I can only tell you that the
atheists I've conversed with over the years do not seem as terrified as
you seem to wish they were.
> There is hope for the atheist. He can be saved. In fact, there are
In my view, there is hope for you, too. Perhaps less than for the
atheist, though, since you, knowing God, defy His will directly, while
the atheist doesn't know Him and merely doesn't believe. I'd much rather
deal with an honest atheist than a fundy hypocrite who tries to put down
everone who won't sign on to his own pet pack of lies.
> plenty of atheists that have come to Jesus Christ. I refuse to argue
> with them, but will answer honest questions. Unfortunately, many
> atheists ignorantly say hard things against the Lord Jesus Christ and
> His people. Don't let fancy titles and big words shake your faith in
> the One who holds your eternal destiny.
I won't. But you don't have faith in Jesus Christ. Your faith, as
demonstrated by your overt behaviour is placed in repeating lies about
science and other such nonsense. Those lies won't even save you from
embarrasment, never mind rescue you from bondage to your sins.
Perhaps if you restricted your posts to questions delivered respectfully
in echoes where such questions are actually relevant for a while, you'd
get some feel for actual spiritual discipline.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
Christopher A. Lee
<ath...@blindasabat.org> wrote:
<plonk> yet another deliberately nasty, lying theist.
Pastor Dave
Sun, 01 Aug 2004 00:35:22 -0500, Lars Eighner
>In our last episode,
><ob_Oc.1145$wU5.1...@news.uswest.net>,
>the lovely and talented Atheists are fools
>broadcast on alt.atheism:
>
>> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me explain.
>> Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote would
>> attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill is
>> nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then he
>> would leave people like me alone. After all, if God did not exist, He and
>> His followers would be no enemy to the atheist.
>
>History is repleat with evidence that christians will shed blood for
>their delusion.
You assume it's a delusion. And history is filled with
evidence that people kill for many reasons. Look to
China, et al, to see what atheism does.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"Were they ashamed when they made an abomination?
They were not at all ashamed, nor did they know
to blush. So they shall fall among those who fall.
At the time I visit them, they shall be cast down,
says Jehovah." - Jeremiah 6:15
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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Mark Nutter
"Atheists are fools" <ath...@blindasabat.org> wrote:
> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me explain.
> Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote would
> attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill is
> nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then he
> would leave people like me alone.
Why? People like you don't leave atheists alone. Just look at your
"From" line.
> After all, if God did not exist, He and
> His followers would be no enemy to the atheist.
If His followers did not exist, then indeed the atheist would have no
enemy.
> We'd just be deluded people.
> Therefore IF the atheist REALLY believes there is no God and the fool
> attacks a Christian, then he has the Don Quixote Syndrome because the
> Christian is not his enemy.
It doesn't matter what the Christian believes, if the Christian attacks
the atheist, then the Christian is making themselves the atheist's
enemy, regardless of God's existence or not.
> Nevertheless, God is real and THAT is why
> atheists have all these organizations and debates to "prove" that God does
> not exist. Atheist reader, if you would just be true to what you purport to
> believe, then you wouldn't have the Don Quixote Syndrome.
If your God were real, it would be the atheist who was deluded, and you
who would have no need to attack the atheist. *My* God is real, to you
and to me and to the atheist, and we all know that She is real, even if
we don't all acknowledge Her as God. So I have no need to attack
atheists.
When the little boy said, "Hey, the Emperor has no clothes," everybody
tried to shut him up. They didn't want the boy blurting out the truth,
because it exposed the foolishness of their own pride-based beliefs. I
have no fear of atheists, because my God actually is real, and everybody
can see that. Only those who have Gods that aren't really there, like
the Emperor's new clothes weren't really there, need fear what atheists
might say about their God. That is why they try to mock and silence the
atheists.
> My old pastor once ministered to an old atheist who had been a card-carrying
> atheist for decades--but as he laid on his death bed, he wanted a pastor. I
> don't know if he got saved or not. When it's time to die, many atheists are
> understandably uneasy and those that aren't should be terrified.
That's what the ancient pagan prophet Zoroaster said. Do you believe
ancient pagan prophets, and/or those that follow the teachings of
ancient pagan prophets? The real God does not blackmail people the way
Zoroaster's judgmental deity is supposed to.
> There is hope for the atheist. He can be saved. In fact, there are plenty of
> atheists that have come to Jesus Christ. I refuse to argue with them, but
> will answer honest questions.
Ok, here's an honest question. If Jesus loves us enough to die for us,
why does he not tell us so himself, in person?
> Unfortunately, many atheists ignorantly say
> hard things against the Lord Jesus Christ and His people. Don't let fancy
> titles and big words shake your faith in the One who holds your eternal
> destiny.
Fancy titles like "reverend" and "apostle"? Big words like
substitutionary atonement and eschatology? They don't shake my faith,
because my faith is grounded in reality itself, not in the mere stories,
superstitions, and subjective feelings of men. It is no faith in God to
put your trust in what men tell you about God, even if those men claim
titles like "Prophet" or "Apostle" or "Savior." Nor is it faith in God
to put your trust in your own subjective, unverifiable feelings about
God.
The true God reveals Herself equally to all men, though of course not
all are able to understand Her equally. But we can all see how
perfectly self-consistent She is, and we can detect lies, delusions, and
fantasies by their failure to manifest the same self-consistency as God
Herself. When men tell stories about God, or jump to superstitious
conclusions about God, or share subjective feelings about God, in ways
that are self-contradictory and inconsistent with the truth we see in
the real world, we can tell that these stories and superstitions and
feelings are not the truth.
Do not fear to let skeptics and unbelievers test your beliefs. Those
that are true will be upheld by God Herself, and those She does not
uphold, you shouldn't believe anyway.
God bless you.
Mark Nutter
manut...@alethian.org
http://www.alethian.org/ -- Information about Alethea, the God even
unbelievers can see, and about Alethian faith and practice.
Jez
> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me explain.
Bullshite snipped.............
> There is hope for the atheist.
Indeed !
>He can be saved.
Unlike the believers, who have no hope of ever living in the
real world.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
Denis Loubet
"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:34spg0p8kp9vftm4i...@4ax.com...
> While skydiving off of the Empire State Building on
> Sun, 01 Aug 2004 00:35:22 -0500, Lars Eighner
> <eig...@io.com> screamed out:
>
> >In our last episode,
> ><ob_Oc.1145$wU5.1...@news.uswest.net>,
> >the lovely and talented Atheists are fools
> >broadcast on alt.atheism:
> >
> >> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me
explain.
> >> Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote
would
> >> attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill is
> >> nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then
he
> >> would leave people like me alone. After all, if God did not exist, He
and
> >> His followers would be no enemy to the atheist.
> >
> >History is repleat with evidence that christians will shed blood for
> >their delusion.
>
> You assume it's a delusion.
And Pastor Fuckhead misses the point. The drooling idiot that started this
thread was trying to suggest that a world full of deluded morons was a
harmless thing. Lars described just one reason why that boneheaded idea is
completely stupid.
> And history is filled with
> evidence that people kill for many reasons.
And religion is a particular favorite.
> Look to
> China, et al, to see what atheism does.
You spelled "lust for power" wrong.
And look to the middle east, the dark ages, northern Ireland, et al, to see
what theism does.
--
Denis Loubet
dlo...@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
Mark Nutter
Pastor Dave <nospam*-*pastor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> While skydiving off of the Empire State Building on
> Sun, 01 Aug 2004 00:35:22 -0500, Lars Eighner
> <eig...@io.com> screamed out:
> >
> >History is repleat with evidence that christians will shed blood for
> >their delusion.
>
> You assume it's a delusion.
No, there is evidence that it is a delusion. Reality is perfectly
self-consistent, and therefore we can detect delusions by examining how
consistent the story is with itself and with the real world.
Christianity fails that test badly.
For example, reality stays the same no matter who observes it. Even if
people have errors in their perception of reality, and even if the true
nature of reality is hard to decipher, there is an underlying objective
truth that is the focus of our observations. The longer we study
reality, using good, reliable scientific methods, the more our
perception of reality tends to converge on the single, self-consistent
underlying truth about what is really there.
Christianity, by contrast, varies greatly depending on who is observing
it, and the longer men study Christianity, the more their beliefs about
Christianity tend to diverge along paths that map out the full spectrum
of human fears and desires and biases and cultures and fantasies and
personalities and so on. There is no methodology, scientific or
otherwise, that allows every believer to converge on a common,
verifiable "truth" of Christianity--everyone believes whatever
Christianity (or whatever interpretation of Scripture) seems right in
their own eyes. That's characteristic of delusion, not truth.
Christianity contains many internal inconsistencies and
self-contradictions, as well as inconsistencies with the real world we
can all observe. For instance, the Bible tells stories about God's
willingness to appear and speak in front of unbelievers and skeptics,
but these stories do not match any divine behavior we can actually
observe in the real world. Moreover, God is supposed to be
all-powerful, all-wise, and all-loving, and to want all of His children
(i.e. us) to be saved by knowing Him, and yet He supposedly hides
Himself from us until *after* we believe in Him. And even then, He
reveals Himself only in the stories, superstitions, and subjective
feelings of men--three of the most UNreliable ways we have of knowing
about anything.
An omniscient God ought to know that it is not faith in *God* to put our
trust in the stories, superstitions, and subjective feelings of men. If
we are to have faith in God, God must present Himself to us in person,
so that we can believe the truth about Him or not. Men wrote the Bible,
and if we put our trust in what men have written, then we have faith in
men, but that's not faith in God. Men say that the Bible is inspired,
and if we put our trust in that saying, then that's faith in what men
say, not faith in God. But if we look for God outside the stories,
superstitions, and subjective feelings of men, He's not there.
Faith in men is the only option available to us. That's a major
inconsistency, and it's not the only one. I would not claim *proof*
that Christianity is a delusion, but there is a great deal of evidence
in favor of that conclusion. So it's not just an assumption.
> And history is filled with
> evidence that people kill for many reasons. Look to
> China, et al, to see what atheism does.
If we look at the history of violence, it is clear that you cannot
predict violence or non-violence by examining whether or not a person
believes in God. If you assume that God is supposed to have some kind
of influence over a person's behavior, and that He promotes peace and
harmony, then it's rather odd that there is so little evidence in
history to suggest that faith produces any noticeable reduction in
violence.
What history tells us is that God does not, in fact, inspire any
particular genius for pacifism, but leaves us to figure out for
ourselves that violence and conflict do more harm than good. It's a
harsh and even unloving stance for God to take, but ultimately it does
work--we have evolved a belief in the virtue of religious freedom, for
instance. But we have a lot of work left to do, and God isn't going to
do it for us.
Mark Nutter
manut...@alethian.org
http://www.alethian.org/ -- Information about Alethea, the God even
unbelievers can see, and about Alethian faith and practice.
Steve Knight
<nospam*-*pastor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>You assume it's a delusion. And history is filled with
>evidence that people kill for many reasons. Look to
>China, et al, to see what atheism does.
And look to Washington to see three years of endless warfare from a
born again christian.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
The Jester
> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me explain.
> Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote would
> attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill is
> nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then he
> would leave people like me alone.
Leave *you* alone? Wait now, *WHO* is spamming alt.atheism with off
topic Christian nonsense?
Hypocracy, much?
-The Jester, 774
kathryn
> Sun, 01 Aug 2004 00:35:22 -0500, Lars Eighner
> <eig...@io.com> screamed out:
>
> >In our last episode,
> ><ob_Oc.1145$wU5.1...@news.uswest.net>,
> >the lovely and talented Atheists are fools
> >broadcast on alt.atheism:
> >
> >> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me
explain.
> >> Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote
would
> >> attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill is
> >> nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then
he
> >> would leave people like me alone. After all, if God did not exist, He
and
> >> His followers would be no enemy to the atheist.
> >
> >History is repleat with evidence that christians will shed blood for
> >their delusion.
>
> You assume it's a delusion. And history is filled with
> evidence that people kill for many reasons. Look to
> China, et al, to see what atheism does.
>
>
> --
>
> Pastor Dave Raymond
>
kathryn
christians and vice versa.
Joe Blow
> While skydiving off of the Empire State Building on
> Sun, 01 Aug 2004 00:35:22 -0500, Lars Eighner
> <eig...@io.com> screamed out:
>
>
>>In our last episode,
>><ob_Oc.1145$wU5.1...@news.uswest.net>,
>>the lovely and talented Atheists are fools
>>broadcast on alt.atheism:
>>
>>
>>>Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me explain.
>>>Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote would
>>>attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill is
>>>nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then he
>>>would leave people like me alone. After all, if God did not exist, He and
>>>His followers would be no enemy to the atheist.
>>
>>History is repleat with evidence that christians will shed blood for
>>their delusion.
>
>
> You assume it's a delusion. And history is filled with
> evidence that people kill for many reasons. Look to
> China, et al, to see what atheism does.
So you are saying that Christianity is no better than Atheism.
Why do you often pretend that Christianity is superior?
Joe
Ichimusai
> I wonder how many atheists send death threats to christians for
> being christians and vice versa.
I haven't heard of one.
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"W. Syme" <Winston.Syme....@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 21:19:34 -0700, "Atheists are fools"
> <ath...@blindasabat.org> wrote:
>
> > If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then he
> >would leave people like me alone. After all, if God did not exist, He and
> >His followers would be no enemy to the atheist.
>
> If the xtians really believe what they say, then they would leave
> atheists alone. After all, if God exists, he would be almighty and not
> threatened by mere mortals such as us.
So I see you have the dreaded syndrome.
Atheists spend too much time shaking
their tiny little fists toward heaven, and
spitting into the wind, for us not to infer
that they believe in God.
"Its even funnier how you atheists read
christian groups and *still* gripe. No
one is preaching at you Willy"
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So I see you have the dreaded syndrome.
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Ichimusai
You are so stupid you do not even understand the way a crosspost
works. I am not "reading" your pathetic group. I am reading a
completely different group to which you are crossposting, you twat.
But, since you have made it so obvious you have no idea how Usenet
works I am not surprised.
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box, you just need to work on it.
Ichimusai
Look guys, this idiot has the parrot syndrome now.
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Religion is like your appendix, often infected and easy to do without.
Levy Oates
false God jesus is entirely your affair. Come the day of reckoning I shall be
sitting at the right hand of Bumble, while unbelievers like you are burning in
eternal torment.
I shall then say, "I told you so," and go "Na, na, na-na, na..."
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On behalf of the Prophet Eric Peabody (pbuh)
Basingstoke, England
http://www.angelfire.com/alt/bumblism/
R. Gregg Reed
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> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me
> explain. Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don
> Quixote would attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course
> a windmill is nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY
> his belief, then he would leave people like me alone. After all, if
> God did not exist, He and His followers would be no enemy to the
> atheist. We'd just be deluded people. Therefore IF the atheist REALLY
> believes there is no God and the fool attacks a Christian, then he has
> the Don Quixote Syndrome because the Christian is not his enemy.
Most people that post here aren't really atheists. They're anti-Christian
liberals. Notice that while most here will attack Christianity without
reserve, they avoid criticizing any other religion. I started reading a
thread that asked was atheism anti-semitic. Most just ignored the question
and started bashing Christians. The ones that did try to answer made for
interesting reading. It brought a whole new meaning to the phrase "tap
dancing".
> Nevertheless, God is real and THAT is why atheists have all these
> organizations and debates to "prove" that God does not exist. Atheist
> reader, if you would just be true to what you purport to believe, then
> you wouldn't have the Don Quixote Syndrome.
>
> My old pastor once ministered to an old atheist who had been a
> card-carrying atheist for decades--but as he laid on his death bed, he
> wanted a pastor. I don't know if he got saved or not. When it's time
> to die, many atheists are understandably uneasy and those that aren't
> should be terrified.
>
Mad Scientist
theories promoted as facts. One technique of propagandists is to
perpetually repeat the same phrase over and over again. Coca Cola
realized this decades ago in their marketing campaigns. That is why we
also get advertising from them.
R. Gregg Reed wrote:
> "Atheists are fools" <ath...@blindasabat.org> wrote in
> news:ob_Oc.1145$wU5.1...@news.uswest.net:
>
>
>>Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me
>>explain. Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don
>>Quixote would attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course
>>a windmill is nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY
>>his belief, then he would leave people like me alone. After all, if
>>God did not exist, He and His followers would be no enemy to the
>>atheist. We'd just be deluded people. Therefore IF the atheist REALLY
>>believes there is no God and the fool attacks a Christian, then he has
>>the Don Quixote Syndrome because the Christian is not his enemy.
>
>
> Most people that post here aren't really atheists. They're anti-Christian
> liberals. Notice that while most here will attack Christianity without
> reserve, they avoid criticizing any other religion. I started reading a
> thread that asked was atheism anti-semitic. Most just ignored the question
> and started bashing Christians. The ones that did try to answer made for
> interesting reading. It brought a whole new meaning to the phrase "tap
> dancing".
Mankind is a slave to hypnotic trances produced by thought-forms or ways
of thinking that keep mankind locked into mental and spiritual slavery.
Take for example the astronomical notion that the moon causes tides,
whether it be low tide or high tide. But gravity is never described as
a tidal force in any textbook you can find. THus the astronomers who
say the moon's gravity causes tidal force are plainly hypnotized to
answer that way, because the model is repeated like a mantra over and
over again.
The number one rule of propaganda is if you repeat it enough, then
everyone is going to believe it eventually. Doesn't make it correct.
Atheists are fools
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"Levy Oates" <levy_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Why don't you take a break from being a Professional Internet idiot, and go
juggle pin-less grenades? Or how about a career change and become a
Professional Suicide Bomber? Either option is fine by me, although I
actually prefer the latter
Desdinova
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Hey Levi, I think a small bug just smashed against your windshield.
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Desdinova aa #2182
EAC Director of Research and Destroy, Black Helicopter Pilot
Zaphod Beeblebrox for President. Why not, he's already President of the
Galaxy.
"Religion is what the common people see as true,
the wise people see as false, and the rulers see as useful."
-Seneca
Pastor Dave
<b...@bob.com> screamed out:
Both are atheistic societies.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"Were they ashamed when they made an abomination?
They were not at all ashamed, nor did they know
to blush. So they shall fall among those who fall.
At the time I visit them, they shall be cast down,
says Jehovah." - Jeremiah 6:15
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
/
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\
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that
genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
Pastor Dave
<b...@bob.com> screamed out:
>I wonder how many atheists send death threats to christians for being
>christians and vice versa.
I've received them.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"Were they ashamed when they made an abomination?
They were not at all ashamed, nor did they know
to blush. So they shall fall among those who fall.
At the time I visit them, they shall be cast down,
says Jehovah." - Jeremiah 6:15
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
/
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In a company of literary gentlemen, Daniel Webster
was asked if he could comprehend how Jesus Christ
could be both God and man. "No, sir," he replied,
and added, "I should be ashamed to acknowledge Him
as my Savior if I could comprehend Him. If I could
comprehend Him, He could be no greater than myself.
Such is my sense of sin, and consciousness of my
inability to save myself, that I feel I need a
superhuman Savior, one so great and glorious that
I cannot comprehend Him."
Atheists are fools
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www.atheistfools.com
SPIRITUAL WARFARE HAS NEVER BEEN THIS MUCH FUN!
"Desdinova" <desd...@nospam.org> wrote in message
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Good God! Why don't modems come with mandatory IQ testing? Really, I should
sue modem manufacturers for the damage inflicted on my IQ by having to read
your garbage. That being said, let's address your 'problem.' Basically, you
are overly-sensitive to superiority of others. In words you cannot
understand without tilting your head, straining to see your screen, and
mouthing the words: you need to firm up.
Atheists are fools
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SPIRITUAL WARFARE HAS NEVER BEEN THIS MUCH FUN!
"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastor...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Pastor Dave,
They are atheists which make them wicked to the bone.
Just look at the history books.
N'vok
> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me explain.
> Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote would
> attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill is
> nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then he
> would leave people like me alone. After all, if God did not exist, He and
> Therefore IF the atheist REALLY believes there is no God and the fool
> attacks a Christian, then he has the Don Quixote Syndrome because the
> atheists have all these organizations and debates to "prove" that God does
> not exist. Atheist reader, if you would just be true to what you purport to
> believe, then you wouldn't have the Don Quixote Syndrome.
<irony-meter supernovas>
> My old pastor once ministered to an old atheist who had been a card-carrying
> atheist for decades--but as he laid on his death bed, he wanted a pastor. I
> don't know if he got saved or not. When it's time to die, many atheists are
> understandably uneasy and those that aren't should be terrified.
Yes, I can understand that people get uneasy as they know they are
just about to slip into non-existence. I do not believe that many
atheists I know would ask for a pastor in this situation.
If I _really_ wanted to be saved, I'd get a wider selection.
Seriously, how d'you know? It would be really embarrassing to get up
there and have 'the big guy' say to me, 'Sorry, mate, but Zarathustra
was right, you shoulda been a neo-zoroastrian!' Or what about
Mithrism? Or all the religions in 'Neverwinter Nights?"
By Mystra!
> There is hope for the atheist. He can be saved.
Why is it that you people always say 'He can be saved.' Never "She."
Never "S/He." Religious bigotry.
> In fact, there are plenty of
> atheists that have come to Jesus Christ. I refuse to argue with them, but
> will answer honest questions. Unfortunately, many atheists ignorantly say
> hard things against the Lord Jesus Christ and His people. Don't let fancy
> titles and big words shake your faith in the One who holds your eternal
> destiny.
Reminds me of a quote from Karl Rove I once heard -
"As people get richer, they tend to vote republican, unless they've
had too much education, when they vote democratic. Which shows that
there can be too much of a good thing."
Mad Scientist
N'vok wrote:
The Fall in to the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil led to hypnotic
entrainment which effects everything mankind does from a mental and
spiritual perspective. Hypnotic theology and linear cosmology are but
two examples of the fallen consciousness.
Mark Nutter
"Atheists are fools" <ath...@blindasabat.org> wrote:
> They are atheists which make them wicked to the bone.
> Just look at the history books.
This is the kind of unreasoning prejudice which alarms atheists, for
reasons which are recorded in those history books. Many Christians have
found it a very short step from declaring atheists "wicked," to overt
acts of aggression and violence against them.
There are two theories about how to get on God's good side. One is that
you win God's favor by humbling yourself, serving others, and obeying
God's will. The other theory is that you get on God's good side by
harassing God's enemies, on the theory that "the enemy of my enemy is my
friend." Apparently, those who follow the latter theory think God is
dim enough to actually be fooled by this kind of shallow,
self-righteous, and abusive behavior, and that the more insults and
abuse they heap on atheists, the better off they are in God's eyes.
Such blasphemous patronization of God will not go unpunished, of course.
m
Mark Nutter
Pastor Dave <nospam*-*pastor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> ...And history is filled with
> >> evidence that people kill for many reasons. Look to
> >> China, et al, to see what atheism does.
> >>
> >Right China and uh Russia - which was to do with Communism not atheism.
>
> Both are atheistic societies.
And both are Asian societies, but that doesn't mean that being Asian
makes one violent. Being Asian is as irrelevant as what you believe
about God, in terms of indicating whether or not one is likely to be
violent.
Mark Nutter
manut...@alethian.org
http://www.alethian.org/ -- Information about Alethea, a God even
unbelievers can see, and about Alethian faith and practice.
Tom
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This must have been written by a Christian who was filled to overflowing
with the love of god.
Tom
There has to be something there to suffer damage, before you can have a
successful suit.
Jos Flachs
<nospam*-*pastor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Right China and uh Russia - which was to do with Communism not atheism.
>
>Both are atheistic societies.
So is the USA. Seperation between state and church. Even you must have
heard about that one.
Desdinova
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If he keeps up his losing battle of wits with atheists, he'll have an IQ
lower than most species of vegetation.
Levy Oates
> juggle pin-less grenades? Or how about a career change and become a
> Professional Suicide Bomber? Either option is fine by me, although I
> actually prefer the latter
Is this the official Christian view, or have you run out cheeks to turn today?
Must be a great religion of yours that inspires you to say such things, you must
be a minister of some kind.
Never fear, Bumble loves you and forgives you.
raven1
<ath...@blindasabat.org> wrote:
>SPIRITUAL WARFARE HAS NEVER BEEN THIS MUCH FUN!
Or so clearly indicative that you need serious psychiatric help.
Ensjo
> atheist for decades--but as he laid on his death bed, he wanted a pastor.
Yeah, sure. And you never heard of Christians that looked for comfort
in other religions/superstitions when facing death or a long disease,
I suppose.
That occurs in a person-by-person basis. Don't generalize.
Ensjo.
JessHC
It's really simple; atheists don't do that. What atheists *do* get
tired of is idiot theists like you telling us we're angry at a god we
don't believe in. Now take your scarecrow and tinman and cowardly
lion and skip off to Oz. Oh, and your little dog, too.
> "Its even funnier how you atheists read
> christian groups and *still* gripe. No
> one is preaching at you Willy"
It's even funnier how you're preaching to an atheist newsgroup. Now,
do like your bible says and go talk to yourself in a closet.
Preferably one with no doorknob on the inside.
Atheists are fools
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www.atheistfools.com
SPIRITUAL WARFARE HAS NEVER BEEN THIS MUCH FUN!
"Desdinova" <desd...@nospam.org> wrote in message
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Now, I realize that as you sit there stuck to your seat from last night's
uncontrolled fecal emission with flies swarming around your glasses made
from polished Coke bottle bottoms, wire coat hanger, and sticky tape, that
you could have mistaking me for someone who cares. However, you should dip
your glasses in a little ammonia to clean the fly ejaculate off them; and
then, rather like your rainbow-colored V-neck sweater, you will observe that
you have it the wrong way round.
Levy Oates
<nospam*-*pastor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>You assume it's a delusion. And history is filled with
>evidence that people kill for many reasons. Look to
>China, et al, to see what atheism does.
...and the only country in the western world that still executes its citizens?
Good ol' Christian, "thou shalt not kill", USA.
Levy Oates
wrote:
> I ...asked was atheism anti-semitic...
>Notice that while most here will attack Christianity without
>reserve, they avoid criticizing any other religion.
I think that's merely because most atheists who post here are ex-xians. They
tend to be from the western world where education, news and open debate are more
prevalent - most of these are so-called xian countries.
Most of the anti-atheists appear to be people who think they are xians, although
it's often a variety that Jesus of Nazareth would have difficulty recognising.
If a fundamentalist muslim or jew were to post the way some of the xian nutters
do then s/he would get similar treatment.
There's also a double meaning to your question about anti-semitism.
Anti-semitism implies a degree of racial prejudice which few people would wish
to be associated with. I would be perfectly happy to dismiss the jewish faith as
just as nonsensical as its xian and muslim derivatives, but I don't think most
people would regard that as anti-semitic.
JPG
Now I know why they're called fundies - the fun dies.
It appears that some theists are so god-soaked they have no room left for a
sense of humour.
Piss off, Raymond.
JPG
FFS, he even has to copy and paste insults, just like his OP.
Eric Pepke
> On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 20:38:29 GMT, "R. Gregg Reed" <r...@blazonsolutions.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I ...asked was atheism anti-semitic...
> >Notice that while most here will attack Christianity without
> >reserve, they avoid criticizing any other religion.
> Most of the anti-atheists appear to be people who think they are xians, although
> it's often a variety that Jesus of Nazareth would have difficulty recognising.
> If a fundamentalist muslim or jew were to post the way some of the xian nutters
> do then s/he would get similar treatment.
I think that R. Greg Reed has a stronger point than you are giving him
credit for, although probably weaker than he thinks. Back when
alt.atheism.moderated was active, we got the occasional aggressive,
stupid Muslim, and they were indeed treated much the same way as
aggressive, stupid Christians were. (We also got non-stupid Christians,
too, and they were treated with courtesy, but we don't seem to get so
many in alt.atheism.
Here in alt.atheism, though, I perceive a definite Islam-protection
process. The number of postings criticizing Islam is *miniscule*
compared to the number of postings criticizing Christianity. However,
any time a posting criticizes Islam, it inevitably elicits a barrage
of responses saying, "Hey! Why are you singling out Islam? It isn't
necessarily any worse than Christianity!" Many accuse people who are
well known as atheists here of bashing Islam to defend Christianity,
which is about as stupid an argument as any I've seen on USENET.
It's reasonable to assume that these people, at the very least, are
motivated by something other than atheism. Furthermore, there are
plenty of them, and there are a few self-appointed guardians who do
it all the time. So it's reasonable to percieve that a significant
portion of people here are not motivated primarily by atheism.
I wouldn't go so far as to call it "anti-Christian liberalism," as
I think that cheapens the meaning of the word "liberalism." However,
it's quite likely that it is related to the Edward Said/Noam Chomsky
Islamocentrism that is a big part of the academic left these days.
I think it may largely be not so much an ideology as a party line;
no more essential to the beliefs than lighting up a bong at a G-8
protest, but just a part of the culture that people parrot
unthinkingly.
> There's also a double meaning to your question about anti-semitism.
> Anti-semitism implies a degree of racial prejudice which few people would wish
> to be associated with. I would be perfectly happy to dismiss the jewish faith as
> just as nonsensical as its xian and muslim derivatives, but I don't think most
> people would regard that as anti-semitic.
It would be an interesting discussion. I think that R. Greg Reed is
being a bit whiney and presumptuous here. This is a large-volume
newsgroup, and the majority of traffic is bullshit. It's difficult
to find interesting discussions here. Just because someone hasn't
responded is never a justification for making judgements about the
entire readership. It's entirely common on USENET for people to miss
95% of what they might be interested in; it's just the nature of the
beast.
Furthermore, many people who are interested in serious discussion use
heuristics. Many people refuse to read ANY CROSSPOSTED ARTICLES.
Therefore, if you crosspost to soc.culture.jewish, it won't get read
here by a lot of people. Furthermore, there is an art to writing titles.
A title that says, "Are atheists anti-semitic?" or "Is atheism anti-
semitic?" is likely to suggest to people that it's a rant by some Cohen
who uses the word "Torah" without an article. A title like "Atheism
and anti-semitism," or even better, "Atheism, Judaism, and anti-semitism"
is far more likely to be read.
Hey, this is probably unfair, but there are only so many hours in a
day to try to wade through several million gallons of septic bathwater
to try to find a baby.
Jez
> Nothing new. Mankind lives in a dark ages because of 'scientific'
> theories promoted as facts. One technique of propagandists is to
> perpetually repeat the same phrase over and over again. Coca Cola
> realized this decades ago in their marketing campaigns. That is why we
> also get advertising from them.
Go read up on Edward Bernays.....the 'father' of advertising.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
Lord Calvert
>Here in alt.atheism, though, I perceive a definite Islam-protection
>process. The number of postings criticizing Islam is *miniscule*
>compared to the number of postings criticizing Christianity. However,
>any time a posting criticizes Islam, it inevitably elicits a barrage
>of responses saying, "Hey! Why are you singling out Islam? It isn't
>necessarily any worse than Christianity!" Many accuse people who are
>well known as atheists here of bashing Islam to defend Christianity,
>which is about as stupid an argument as any I've seen on USENET.
The reason for the difference is more than likely two-fold:
1) The majority of the posters in alt.atheism are in English speaking
countries, particularly the United States, where Muslims comprise a small
minority while Christians comprise a large majority.
2) In the time since alt.atheism.moderated was active there has been an
enormous increase in the political power of totalitarian extremist religious
groups, particularly in the United States. Atheists are more willing to defend
their rights and principles against fundamentalist Christians because we see
the political power of fundamentalist Christians as more dangerous and a bigger
threat to freedom than we do Islam.
Islamic radicals have the capacity to cause horiffic damage, as they did on 11
Sep 2001 and 11 Mar 2004, but they lack the power to transform our basic way of
life. In the United States, fundamentalist Christians DO have that power and
they are using it, supporting and enacting platforms and positions which are
idelogically in lockstep with the terrorists they claim to be opposing.
While I agree with you that Islam does not merit defending by atheists, I
think, due to events in the political world over the last several years (and in
the US over the last century and a half) that atheists in the United States are
growing more and more hostile to Christianity because Christians are growing
more and more hostile to us...and throwing around their political weight and
power to show it. When a presidential candidate makes a political speech about
how atheists should be stripped of the franchise, it is easy to understand our
fear of and anger at religious totalitarianism.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
Mad Scientist
Jez wrote:
> Mad Scientist wrote:
>
>> Nothing new. Mankind lives in a dark ages because of 'scientific'
>> theories promoted as facts. One technique of propagandists is to
>> perpetually repeat the same phrase over and over again. Coca Cola
>> realized this decades ago in their marketing campaigns. That is why
>> we also get advertising from them.
>
>
> Go read up on Edward Bernays.....the 'father' of advertising.
>
Here is a quote from him and it seems as if both the scientific
community and the religious community (not to mention governments as
well) employ his type of 'science':
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and
opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society.
Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an
invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...
We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas
suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical
result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast
numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to
live together as a smoothly functioning society. ... In almost every act
of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in
our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the
relatively small number of persons ... who understand the mental
processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the
wires which control the public mind."
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Edward_Bernays
I could offer the insight that atheists are also hypnotized but that
would also mean that religion is hypnotized as well. At least those
claiming a religion can be victims of hypnotic brain-washing techniques
just as easily as the atheist.
Joe Blow
Not if you can read the paper. The Russian Orthodox Church seemed to have
survived. There are a number of Chinese sects as well. Cuba is another fine
example of a Communist society in which religion flourishes.
Joe
Joe Blow
> While skydiving off of the Empire State Building on
> Sun, 1 Aug 2004 16:48:43 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn"
> <b...@bob.com> screamed out:
>
>
>>I wonder how many atheists send death threats to christians for being
>>christians and vice versa.
>
>
> I've received them.
But not because you are thought to be a Christian. But then again,
everybody else is an atheist, according to you.
Joe
Lord Calvert
>
>Not if you can read the paper. The Russian Orthodox Church seemed to have
>survived.
Not only have they survived, they are now the dominant political force within
Russia. Within a couple of years they will be just as dominant and feared as
the KGB was. No Russian politician or private citizen will be able to take a
dump without approval from the Orthodox Church.
>There are a number of Chinese sects as well. Cuba is another fine
>example of a Communist society in which religion flourishes.
Don't forget North Korea who went and formed their own religion called "Juche."
Billy Goat
> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me explain.
> Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote would
> attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill is
> nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then he
> would leave people like me alone. After all, if God did not exist, He and
So *that's* why you God-believers keep trying to kill us. God's
existence tells you to become our enemy. Thanks for the warning,
psycho.
--Billy
Desdinova
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He claims he wants to be left alone, yet he posts his hate in alt.atheism.
He used to do the same in UFO and bigfoot newsgroups. He is just looking for
a target for his hatred, as that is all he has in life. Pathetic really.
ShrikeBack
That's rigth. Separation of church and state: love it or leave it.
In fact, I'd be willing to contribute to a fund for one way tickets
to Saudi Arabia for those who don't. They'd probably like that though.
Jeff Thomas
"Atheists are fools" <ath...@blindasabat.org> wrote in message
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> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me explain.
> Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote
would
> attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill is
> nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then he
> would leave people like me alone. After all, if God did not exist, He and
> His followers would be no enemy to the atheist. We'd just be deluded
people.
> attacks a Christian, then he has the Don Quixote Syndrome because the
> Christian is not his enemy. Nevertheless, God is real and THAT is why
> atheists have all these organizations and debates to "prove" that God does
> not exist. Atheist reader, if you would just be true to what you purport
to
> believe, then you wouldn't have the Don Quixote Syndrome.
>
> My old pastor once ministered to an old atheist who had been a
card-carrying
> atheist for decades--but as he laid on his death bed, he wanted a pastor.
I
> don't know if he got saved or not. When it's time to die, many atheists
are
> understandably uneasy and those that aren't should be terrified.
>
of
> atheists that have come to Jesus Christ. I refuse to argue with them, but
> will answer honest questions. Unfortunately, many atheists ignorantly say
> hard things against the Lord Jesus Christ and His people. Don't let fancy
> titles and big words shake your faith in the One who holds your eternal
> destiny.
Unfortunately, I think Christians want to convert people to their false
proposition. In fact most religions state that this is one of their prime
objectives. Islam probably won't be happy until they control the world.
Should we let them because they are harmless? We atheists feel we have to
protect people from the hidden agenda of convincing people that blind faith
makes sense. I want religion to stay out of science class. That's all I can
hope for. If it means trying to convince people that creationism does not
make any scientific sense, so be it. I suggest that religious people should
stop trying to make religion scientific. It can never happen. A scientific
hypothesis has to be falsifiable: religion is not. When science does falsify
a hypothesis, creationists junp all over it for years, yet this is a natural
process in science. Such things never happen in religion. There is no point
experimenting with religion. There is no experiment which can convince a
believer that there is no God who can do anything if he wants to. This is
not science. Science tries to stay away from religion.
It is only because fundamentalist Christians want to make their faith
scientific that this newsgroup exists. I realise that creation is one of
the last rational gaps that god can fill so it is important to religious
people that they make a stand regardless of merit. Not having much in the
way of scientific evidence, religious people try to attack atheism and the
methodology of science and try a put doubt in people's minds that scientists
can be trusted. How low. The more that religious people attack science for
flawed reasons, the more I am inclined to attack the more basic tenants of
religion. Religion stands on pretty shaky ground. Isn't it extraordinary
that the two qualities out of the thousands of qualities that exist, that
the two most necessary to maintain religion are also the two qualities that
God demands; belief and faith. What's wrong with goodness and truth alone as
two qualities that god might cherish most? Such religions do not survive,
that's what. They have evolved over time by survival of the "faithiest". I
would stay away from any argument, if I were religious.
Jeff (99% atheist) You cannot prove a negative.
Mark K. Bilbo
<ob_Oc.1145$wU5.1...@news.uswest.net> we saw our hero "Atheists are
fools" <ath...@blindasabat.org>:
> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me explain.
> Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote
> would attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill
> is nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then
> he would leave people like me alone. After all, if God did not exist, He
> and His followers would be no enemy to the atheist. We'd just be deluded
> people.
Deluded people can be dangerous.
> Therefore IF the atheist REALLY believes there is no God and the
> fool attacks a Christian, then he has the Don Quixote Syndrome because the
> Christian is not his enemy.
Nonsense. Christians are real. They are actual, existing human beings
whose actions have real world consequences. Whether the object of their
belief is "real" or not is irrelevant.
> Nevertheless, God is real and THAT is why
> atheists have all these organizations and debates to "prove" that God does
> not exist.
Except, of course, you're lying.
> Atheist reader, if you would just be true to what you purport
> to believe, then you wouldn't have the Don Quixote Syndrome.
Nonsense. You--and I mean YOU--work hard at being a prick. Which is why
people "attack" you on newsgroups. Because you provoke them. You *want to
be attacked. It helps you inflate your sad, lame, pathetic little ego.
This has *nothing to do with Christianity, nor Christians in general, nor
atheism, nor religion, nor *ANY* of bullshit veneer you slather on it.
It's about *you, just you, yes *you and you alone being a prick.
That's what it's about. That's all it's about. Nothing else.
> My old pastor once ministered to an old atheist who had been a
> card-carrying atheist for decades--but as he laid on his death bed, he
> wanted a pastor. I don't know if he got saved or not. When it's time to
> die, many atheists are understandably uneasy and those that aren't should
> be terrified.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same old "death bed conversion" bullshit claims. I could
just as easily claim that there are tons of Christians who become atheist
right before they die and, conveniently, in such manner there's just no
way to confirm the story.
Yawn.
> There is hope for the atheist. He can be saved. In fact, there are plenty
> of atheists that have come to Jesus Christ.
There are plenty of Christians who became atheist. I'm one.
> I refuse to argue with them,
You just lamely troll their newsgroups because you think that means you
have a big penis.
> but will answer honest questions. Unfortunately, many atheists ignorantly
> say hard things against the Lord Jesus Christ and His people. Don't let
> fancy titles and big words shake your faith in the One who holds your
> eternal destiny.
Yeah, yeah. The troll tries to make it sound like he's in some Grand
Battle when the truth is, he's just a minor, irrelevant little gnat
posting pointlessly on Usenet...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
Mark K. Bilbo
<9xcPc.105295$vJ6....@cyclops.nntpserver.com> we saw our hero "R. Gregg
Reed" <r...@blazonsolutions.com>:
> Most people that post here aren't really atheists. They're anti-Christian
> liberals. Notice that while most here will attack Christianity without
> reserve, they avoid criticizing any other religion.
Oh that old canard again.
In case you haven't noticed, the bulk of the Usenet is populated by the
English speaking peoples of Earth (not exclusively but we're a seriously
big component right?). Notice what religion is dominant in the English
speaking world and is having major, local impact.
You expect people to rattle on about a religion that doesn't have much of
anything to do with them?
What you are *actually seeing is that atheists don't really *care about
the religious beliefs of others *if those beliefs are not being shoved
down everybody's throats. There are a *lot of religions I don't have
anything to say about because they aren't *bothering me.
Sheesh.
Mark K. Bilbo
<caednZev6MN...@comcast.com> we saw our hero Joe Blow
<joe...@volcanomail.com>:
And, anyway, we're to believe this "on faith" apparently...
Mark K. Bilbo
<30eb24ae.04080...@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
jest...@my-deja.com (The Jester):
> "Atheists are fools" <ath...@blindasabat.org> wrote in message
> news:<ob_Oc.1145$wU5.1...@news.uswest.net>...
>> Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me explain.
>> Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote
>> would attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill
>> is nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief,
>> then he would leave people like me alone.
>
>
> Leave *you* alone? Wait now, *WHO* is spamming alt.atheism with off topic
> Christian nonsense?
We're just supposed to ignore that *he is the one who came *here to
harass *us.
Mark K. Bilbo
<59b8bc96.0408...@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
hewpi...@hotmail.com (ShrikeBack):
Funny they bitch about separation and the secular state but they don't
ever want to move to the theistic states.
You know, like Iran...
stoney
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> Most people that post here aren't really atheists.
Thank you, Mrs. Reed (you have no balls) being so kind as
to highlight the Christian depravity which is called;
honesty, compassion, empathy, and terminal deliberate
ignorance.
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