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Andrew

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Aug 4, 2020, 9:55:06 PM8/4/20
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This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
livig God, loves you.

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg



LinuxGal

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Aug 4, 2020, 10:03:53 PM8/4/20
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On Tue, 4 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:

> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in the
> southern constellation of Piscis.

How can something 50 million light-years away be visible
when the universe is only six thousand years old? Light
only travels one light-year per year.

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Aug 4, 2020, 10:31:14 PM8/4/20
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LinuxGal (aka Teresita on Twitter) asked:
> Andrew wrote:
>
> > This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in the
> > southern constellation of Piscis (sic).

This reminds us of what is written about fish (i.e. Pisces) at Luke 24:42 as explicated at http://bit.ly/Lk2442

> How can something 50 million light-years away be visible
> when the universe is only six thousand years old? Light
> only travels one light-year per year.

The same way that Adam's hand though more than a foot away down his extended arm was visible to his visual cortex via his eyes when he was only a few minutes old. Human development, which includes fully functioning eyes and fully functioning visual cortex, seemingly only happens after months have elapsed from the start of human life.

It is written at Matthew 19:26 that with GOD, all things are possible.

In the interim, I am simply wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 ) and hope you, LinuxGal, also have a healthy appetite too.

So how are you ?








...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

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Bob

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Aug 4, 2020, 10:34:25 PM8/4/20
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On 8/4/2020 10:03 PM, LinuxGal wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
>
>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in
>> the southern constellation of Piscis.
>
> How can something 50 million light-years away be visible when the
> universe is only six thousand years old?  Light only travels one
> light-year per year.
>



So, by not showing exactly where I have said that I don't believe the
Bible when it says the gospel of salvation is for every creature, you
admit that you were lying.

You sure screwed that one up, didn't you?


<smirk>


Lucifer

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Aug 4, 2020, 11:46:57 PM8/4/20
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On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 19:12:35 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:

>This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
>galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
>livig God, loves you.

The problem is explained in Isaiah 55:8.

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.

John Locke

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Aug 5, 2020, 12:19:29 AM8/5/20
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On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 19:12:35 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:

>This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
>galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
>livig God, loves you.
>
....wrong !!..you have no creator, no "living God" and even if your
imaginary god were real, I wouldn't want the blasted thing loving on
me...that's just plain fucking weird...to say the least.


>https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg
>
>


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Andrew

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Aug 5, 2020, 4:28:05 AM8/5/20
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"LinuxGal" wrote in message news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2008041902040.4575@teresita-Latitude-D630...
> Andrew wrote:
>
>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in the
>> southern constellation of Piscis.
>
> How can something 50 million light-years away be visible
> when the universe is only six thousand years old?

Where is your evidence?

> Light only travels one light-year per year.

Do you know anything about the quantum world?

Andrew

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Aug 5, 2020, 4:28:19 AM8/5/20
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"John Locke" wrote in message news:j5ckif9sm27qkkdl5...@4ax.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>
>>This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>>in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
>>galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
>>living God, loves you.
>>
> ....wrong !!..you have no creator, no "living God"

I do. He is the awesome and wonderful One.

Our Creator. Glory to Him.

Amen.

Lucifer

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Aug 5, 2020, 5:17:30 AM8/5/20
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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 01:45:49 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:
The problem is explained in Isaiah 55:8.

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.

>Amen.

That should be aperson.

Peter Pan

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Aug 5, 2020, 5:43:09 AM8/5/20
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"Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net> wrote:

> Remember that our awesome Creator, the
> livig God, loves you.

God's livig! God's brillig!
He loves the slithy toves
That gyre and gimble in the wabe.
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Beware the Jabberwock, my son!

Peter Pan

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Aug 5, 2020, 5:49:15 AM8/5/20
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"Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net> wrote:

> "LinuxGal" wrote in message news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2008041902040.4575@teresita-Latitude-D630...
> > Andrew wrote:
> >
> >> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in the
> >> southern constellation of Piscis.
> >
> > How can something 50 million light-years away be visible
> > when the universe is only six thousand years old?
>
> Where is your evidence?

Is evidence required for asking a question?
Where is your evidence for asking that?

Don Martin

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Aug 5, 2020, 8:07:58 AM8/5/20
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On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 19:03:14 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 4 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
>
>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in the
>> southern constellation of Piscis.
>
>How can something 50 million light-years away be visible
>when the universe is only six thousand years old? Light
>only travels one light-year per year.

In the southern constellation of Piscis, years are very, very short?

--
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LinuxGal

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Aug 5, 2020, 10:21:23 AM8/5/20
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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:

> "LinuxGal" wrote in message
> news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2008041902040.4575@teresita-Latitude-D630...
>> Andrew wrote:
>>
>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in the
>>> southern constellation of Piscis.
>>
>> How can something 50 million light-years away be visible when the universe
>> is only six thousand years old?
>
> Where is your evidence?

https://badinage1.wordpress.com/age/

>> Light only travels one light-year per year.
>
> Do you know anything about the quantum world?

Yes and no.

"Sir Hømer Hall, Esq."

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Aug 5, 2020, 11:07:53 AM8/5/20
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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 07:20:58 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:

<...>

>> Do you know anything about the quantum world?
>
>Yes and no.

LOL!

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essential facts of life, and see if I could nøt learn what it had to teach, and
nøt, when I came to die, discover that I had nøt lived." __Henry David Thøreau

JWS

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Aug 5, 2020, 11:17:48 AM8/5/20
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On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 9:21:23 AM UTC-5, LinuxGal wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
>
> > "LinuxGal" wrote in message
> > news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2008041902040.4575@teresita-Latitude-D630...
> >> Andrew wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in the
> >>> southern constellation of Piscis.
> >>
> >> How can something 50 million light-years away be visible when the universe
> >> is only six thousand years old?
> >
> > Where is your evidence?
>
> https://badinage1.wordpress.com/age/
>
> >> Light only travels one light-year per year.
> >
> > Do you know anything about the quantum world?
>
> Yes and no.

That's a super position to hold.

Malte Runz

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Aug 5, 2020, 1:22:52 PM8/5/20
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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 08:17:46 -0700 (PDT), JWS <jld...@skybeam.com>
wrote:
Don't jump to conclusions.

--
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Siri Cruise

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Aug 5, 2020, 4:37:42 PM8/5/20
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In article <omqlif1sooev49572...@4ax.com>,
Malte Runz <nob...@busine.ss> wrote:

> >> >>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> southern constellation of Piscis.
> >> >>
> >> >> How can something 50 million light-years away be visible when the
> >> >> universe
> >> >> is only six thousand years old?

Look up Jason 'Twerp' Lisle.

> >> >> Light only travels one light-year per year.
> >> >
> >> > Do you know anything about the quantum world?
> >>
> >> Yes and no.
> >
> >That's a super position to hold.
>
> Don't jump to conclusions.

The starcluster NGC 2442, on 50 million year mission to seek out
new worlds, discover new civilisations, and to boldly confront
creationists once again (ugh).

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duckg...@cox.net

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Aug 5, 2020, 4:50:30 PM8/5/20
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On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 19:03:14 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 4 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
>
>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in the
>> southern constellation of Piscis.
>
>How can something 50 million light-years away be visible
>when the universe is only six thousand years old? Light
>only travels one light-year per year.

Haahaahaa. Lg, I thought you were smarter than that. Where did you get 6000
years from.

Do you need some help.
the dukester, American-American

LinuxGal

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Aug 5, 2020, 4:56:24 PM8/5/20
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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, duckg...@cox.net wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 19:03:14 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 4 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
>>
>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in the
>>> southern constellation of Piscis.
>>
>> How can something 50 million light-years away be visible
>> when the universe is only six thousand years old? Light
>> only travels one light-year per year.
>
> Haahaahaa. Lg, I thought you were smarter than that. Where did you get 6000
> years from.

I did the workup here.

https://badinage1.wordpress.com/age/

Andrew

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Aug 5, 2020, 4:58:55 PM8/5/20
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"LinuxGal" wrote in message news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2008050720190.4575@teresita-Latitude-D630...
> Andrew wrote:
>> "LinuxGal" wrote:
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in the
>>>> southern constellation of Piscis.
>>>
>>> How can something 50 million light-years away be visible when the universe
>>> is only six thousand years old?
>>
>> Where is your evidence?
>
> https://badinage1.wordpress.com/age/

Nothing there about the age of the Universe.

Thanks anyway.

LinuxGal

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Aug 5, 2020, 5:01:24 PM8/5/20
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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:

It sez:

"In 4163 BCE Adam was made from a mudpie, since he begat
Seth when he was 130 years of age (Gen. 5:3). God gave
mouth-to-mouth to the mudpie on the sixth day of creation
week, so the Earth dates back to 4163 BCE as well."

The rest of the universe was made on the fourth day of
creation week, again, in 4163 BCE.

QED.

Andrew

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Aug 5, 2020, 5:07:34 PM8/5/20
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"LinuxGal" wrote in message news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2008051355040.4575@teresita-Latitude-D630...
> duckg...@cox.net wrote:
>> LinuxGal wrote:
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in the
>>>> southern constellation of Piscis.
>>>
>>> How can something 50 million light-years away be visible
>>> when the universe is only six thousand years old? Light
>>> only travels one light-year per year.
>>
>> Haahaahaa. Lg, I thought you were smarter than that. Where did you get 6000
>> years from.
>
> I did the workup here.
>
> https://badinage1.wordpress.com/age/

The age of the Earth is not the age of the Universe.

You failed.

Recant.

Andrew

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Aug 5, 2020, 5:26:57 PM8/5/20
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"LinuxGal" <tere...@aqua.net> wrote in message news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2008051359080.4575@teresita-Latitude-D630...
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
>
>> "LinuxGal" wrote in message
>> news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2008050720190.4575@teresita-Latitude-D630...
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>> "LinuxGal" wrote:
>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in
>>>>>> the southern constellation of Piscis.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can something 50 million light-years away be visible when the
>>>>> universe is only six thousand years old?
>>>>
>>>> Where is your evidence?
>>>
>>> https://badinage1.wordpress.com/age/
>>
>> Nothing there about the age of the Universe.
>>
>> Thanks anyway.
>
> It sez:
>
> "In 4163 BCE Adam was made from a mudpie, since he begat
> Seth when he was 130 years of age (Gen. 5:3). God gave
> mouth-to-mouth to the mudpie on the sixth day of creation
> week, so the Earth dates back to 4163 BCE as well."
>
> The rest of the universe was made on the fourth day of
> creation week, again, in 4163 BCE.

No, the Universe was here already.

"He made the stars also" (v.16) is a parenthetical statement.

When this world was created there were many "sons of God"
already in existence (Job 38:7). That is a term also given to
Adam, our first parent.

Peter Pan

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Aug 5, 2020, 5:58:25 PM8/5/20
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Don Martin <drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 19:03:14 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 4 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
> >
> >> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in the
> >> southern constellation of Piscis.
> >
> >How can something 50 million light-years away be visible
> >when the universe is only six thousand years old? Light
> >only travels one light-year per year.
>
> In the southern constellation of Piscis, years are very, very short?

Scripturally, a thousand light-years to God is like one
light-day to man. This shortens the trip considerably,
so the light from NGC 2442 arrives at earth by 4026 BCE.

It also makes it convenient if the Piscisianoids should
ever want to visit the earth.

LinuxGal

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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:

> "LinuxGal" wrote in message
>>
>> https://badinage1.wordpress.com/age/
>
> The age of the Earth is not the age of the Universe.

The heavens is the universe, and the Earth is the Earth.
Both were created in the same week.

GEN.1:8 - And God called the firmament Heaven. And the
evening and the morning were the second day.

GEN.1:9 - And God said, Let the waters under the
heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry
land appear, and it was so.

GEN.1:10 - And God called the dry land Earth; and the
gathering together of the waters called he Seas, and God saw
that it was good.

Andrew

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"LinuxGal" wrote in message news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2008051456380.4575@teresita-Latitude-D630...
> Andrew wrote:
>> "LinuxGal" wrote:
>>>
>>> https://badinage1.wordpress.com/age/
>>
>> The age of the Earth is not the age of the Universe.
>
> The heavens is the universe, and the Earth is the Earth.
> Both were created in the same week.
>
> GEN.1:8 - And God called the firmament Heaven. And the
> evening and the morning were the second day.

"The definition of the firmament can be essentially
summarized as the arch or vault over the earth and
sky that separates the earthly realm from what is
beyond." https://tinyurl.com/y3w6gg7x

The "firmament" therefore is not the whole Universe.


> GEN.1:9 - And God said, Let the waters under the
> heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry
> land appear, and it was so.
>
> GEN.1:10 - And God called the dry land Earth; and the
> gathering together of the waters called he Seas, and God saw
> that it was good.


Glory to our awesome Creator.

He is the One who loves you.

Amen.

aaa

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Aug 5, 2020, 8:36:41 PM8/5/20
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On 2020-08-04 10:03 p.m., LinuxGal wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
>
>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in
>> the southern constellation of Piscis.
>
> How can something 50 million light-years away be visible when the
> universe is only six thousand years old?  Light only travels one
> light-year per year.
>

Because you mistook the age of civilization as the age of the universe.

--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!

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Aug 5, 2020, 8:51:47 PM8/5/20
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On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 19:12:35 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:

>This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
>galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
>livig God, loves you.

Is this an alien mega structure? EPIC 249706694 or HD 139139 ?

Mitchell Holman

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Aug 5, 2020, 9:38:33 PM8/5/20
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"Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net> wrote in
news:rgf86s$9sd$1...@gioia.aioe.org:

>
>
> When this world was created



1) When WAS this world "created"?

2) Why do you keep dodging this question?



Mitchell Holman

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Aug 5, 2020, 9:39:15 PM8/5/20
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"Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net> wrote in
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What IS the age of the Earth, in your opinion?



Andrew

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"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsAC10D0ADE4B...@216.166.97.131...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>>
>> When this world was created
>
> 1) When WAS this world "created"?

Do you believe that it was?

Andrew

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<bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:b0385d1b-2dbf-42c1...@googlegroups.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>
>>This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>>in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
>>galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
>>livig God, loves you.
>
> Is this an alien mega structure? EPIC 249706694 or HD 139139 ?

Interesting hypothesis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWqd6CK9f2I

Michael Cole

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Aug 6, 2020, 12:13:50 AM8/6/20
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Why don't you answer the question? Last I heard, YOU claim to believe that the universe was created. We, of course, know that is nonsense. When do you believe the world was created? A "don't know" is fine if you don't claim to know.. But you should answer the question instead of being evasive.

Lucifer

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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 14:44:27 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:

>"LinuxGal" <tere...@aqua.net> wrote in message news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2008051359080.4575@teresita-Latitude-D630...
>> On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
>>
>>> "LinuxGal" wrote in message
>>> news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2008050720190.4575@teresita-Latitude-D630...
>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>> "LinuxGal" wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in
>>>>>>> the southern constellation of Piscis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can something 50 million light-years away be visible when the
>>>>>> universe is only six thousand years old?
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is your evidence?
>>>>
>>>> https://badinage1.wordpress.com/age/
>>>
>>> Nothing there about the age of the Universe.
>>>
>>> Thanks anyway.
>>
>> It sez:
>>
>> "In 4163 BCE Adam was made from a mudpie, since he begat
>> Seth when he was 130 years of age (Gen. 5:3). God gave
>> mouth-to-mouth to the mudpie on the sixth day of creation
>> week, so the Earth dates back to 4163 BCE as well."
>>
>> The rest of the universe was made on the fourth day of
>> creation week, again, in 4163 BCE.
>
>No, the Universe was here already.

Complete with life.

>"He made the stars also" (v.16) is a parenthetical statement.

The stars were tiny lights in the solid firmament.

>When this world was created there were many "sons of God"
>already in existence (Job 38:7). That is a term also given to
>Adam, our first parent.

At what point in our evolution were we considered humans?

Lucifer

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Aug 6, 2020, 12:38:02 AM8/6/20
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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 16:22:26 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:

>Glory to our awesome Creator.
>
>He is the One who loves you.

Is there some way we can stop it loving us?

>Amen.

Should be aperson.

Andrew

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Aug 6, 2020, 12:50:46 AM8/6/20
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"Michael Cole" wrote in message news:cbb74a6e-e07a-42ad...@googlegroups.com...
Andrew wrote:
> "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
> > "Andrew" wrote:
> >>
> >> When this world was created
> >
> > 1) When WAS this world "created"?
>
> Do you believe that it was?
-
- Why don't you answer the question?

Because we have been told...

"Answer not a fool."
~ Proverbs 26:4

- Last I heard, YOU claim to believe
- that the universe was created.

I just follow the evidence.

- We, of course, know that is nonsense.

That it created itself is not 'nonsense'?

Lol!

If you understood about the laws of
science, you would not be deceived.

- When do you believe the world was created?

In the Beginning.

- A "don't know" is fine if you don't claim to know..

See above.

- But you should answer the question instead
- of being evasive.

And you should not have been so gullible.

Michael Cole

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Aug 6, 2020, 1:08:38 AM8/6/20
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Evasion noted. But of course a religious kook is intellectually dishonest. I had hoped you were just dumb instead of hypocritical and willfully deceitful. Oh well. What else should one expect from a theist? If you wonder why atheists regard theists as scum, intellectually speaking, rather than just mistaken, just look in the mirror. Evasion is the hallmark of the charlatan.

Christopher A. Lee

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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 21:13:48 -0700 (PDT), Michael Cole
<patzer...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 10:52:25 PM UTC-4, Andrew wrote:
>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsAC10D0ADE4B...@216.166.97.131...
>> > "Andrew" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> When this world was created
>> >
>> > 1) When WAS this world "created"?
>>
>> Do you believe that it was?

Deliberate, weaseling dishonesty because he needed to say something
and it didn't matter how stupid as long as it shuts Michael up - which
it only does until he responds..

>Why don't you answer the question? Last I heard, YOU claim to believe
>that the universe was created. We, of course, know that is nonsense.
>When do you believe the world was created? A "don't know" is fine if
>you don't claim to know.. But you should answer the question instead
>of being evasive.

He's psychologically incapable of admitting he doesn't know - it's
another facet of his neverending, made up bullshit, and it would
acknowledge that.

Over the years, he's just dug himself in too deep, and it's getting
deeper all the time. He's got too much to lose if he admits anything.

Andrew

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Michael Cole wrote in message news:854b1c8e-3fa6-4917...@googlegroups.com...On Thursday, August 6, 2020 at 12:50:46
> Andrew wrote:
Yes, but not by me.

> But of course a religious kook is intellectually dishonest.

Here comes the 'ad hom' since he cannot address any
of the above. A characteristic of one who vainly tries
to fight against the truth.

> I had hoped you were just dumb instead of hypocritical
> and willfully deceitful.

The 'subtle insult', another tactic used by one who argues
from a position of falsehood.

> Oh well.

He finally concedes the fight.

> What else should one expect from a theist?

Here we see that he is also a bigot.

> If you wonder why atheists regard theists as scum,

Because they cannot refute the truth they
say that exposes the atheists foolishness.

Don Martin

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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 15:00:32 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
>
>> "LinuxGal" wrote in message
>>>
>>> https://badinage1.wordpress.com/age/
>>
>> The age of the Earth is not the age of the Universe.
>
>The heavens is the universe, and the Earth is the Earth.
>Both were created in the same week.
>
> GEN.1:8 - And God called the firmament Heaven. And the
>evening and the morning were the second day.
>
> GEN.1:9 - And God said, Let the waters under the
>heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry
>land appear, and it was so.
>
> GEN.1:10 - And God called the dry land Earth; and the
>gathering together of the waters called he Seas, and God saw
>that it was good.

Androol could not possibly be expected to know these fine details . .
.

--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

Christopher A. Lee

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On Thu, 06 Aug 2020 08:41:41 -0400, Don Martin
<drdon...@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 15:00:32 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
>>
>>> "LinuxGal" wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> https://badinage1.wordpress.com/age/
>>>
>>> The age of the Earth is not the age of the Universe.
>>
>>The heavens is the universe, and the Earth is the Earth.
>>Both were created in the same week.

What a fucking moron.

[irrelevant bronze age mythology deleted]

>Androol could not possibly be expected to know these fine details . .

Religion makes people stupid.

Mitchell Holman

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"Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net> wrote in
news:rgfr92$hbk$1...@gioia.aioe.org:
Just answer the question.



Don Martin

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And Androol is the poster child of its success.

duckg...@cox.net

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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 13:55:26 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, duckg...@cox.net wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 19:03:14 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away in the
>>>> southern constellation of Piscis.
>>>
>>> How can something 50 million light-years away be visible
>>> when the universe is only six thousand years old? Light
>>> only travels one light-year per year.
>>
>> Haahaahaa. Lg, I thought you were smarter than that. Where did you get 6000
>> years from.
>
>I did the workup here.
>
>https://badinage1.wordpress.com/age/

Tough luck. Jericho was built by human hands 11,000 years ago.
the dukester, American-American

duckg...@cox.net

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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 15:00:32 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
>
>> "LinuxGal" wrote in message
>>>
>>> https://badinage1.wordpress.com/age/
>>
>> The age of the Earth is not the age of the Universe.
>
>The heavens is the universe, and the Earth is the Earth.
>Both were created in the same week.

Uh, nooooo.

> GEN.1:8 - And God called the firmament Heaven. And the
>evening and the morning were the second day.
>
> GEN.1:9 - And God said, Let the waters under the
>heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry
>land appear, and it was so.
>
> GEN.1:10 - And God called the dry land Earth; and the
>gathering together of the waters called he Seas, and God saw
>that it was good.

And there was light before light makers.
the dukester, American-American

Lucifer

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Aug 6, 2020, 7:21:46 PM8/6/20
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2020 07:52:06 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<c....@fairpoint.net> wrote:

Or does stupid make people religious?

LinuxGal

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Tough luck for your Bible. Every link in that chain is
cross-referenced.

michelle...@gmail.com

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Aug 6, 2020, 11:38:18 PM8/6/20
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On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 9:55:06 PM UTC-4, Andrew wrote:
> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
> in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
> galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
> livig God, loves you.
>
> https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg

Is there a giant black hole or another larger galaxy nearby? It looks like this galaxy is being pulled apart

michelle...@gmail.com

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Aug 6, 2020, 11:41:08 PM8/6/20
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On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 4:28:19 AM UTC-4, Andrew wrote:
> "John Locke" wrote in message news:j5ckif9sm27qkkdl5...@4ax.com...
> > "Andrew" wrote:
> >
> >>This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
> >>in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
> >>galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
> >>living God, loves you.
> >>
> > ....wrong !!..you have no creator, no "living God"
>
> I do. He is the awesome and wonderful One.
>
> Our Creator. Glory to Him.
>
> Amen.

Bibbity bobbity boo!

michelle...@gmail.com

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Aug 6, 2020, 11:44:48 PM8/6/20
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Because they can't answer it. Faith keeps them happily ignorant.

michelle...@gmail.com

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Homo Heidelbergensis. Both the Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens descend from them.

John Locke

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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 01:45:49 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:

>"John Locke" wrote in message news:j5ckif9sm27qkkdl5...@4ax.com...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>
>>>This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>>>in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
>>>galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
>>>living God, loves you.
>>>
>> ....wrong !!..you have no creator, no "living God"
>
>I do. He is the awesome and wonderful One.
>
...no, you don't. There's nothing really "awesome and wonderful"
about a fictional deity.

>Our Creator. Glory to Him.
>
..no, not "our"..it's YOUR creator..it's YOUR
delusion..not ours.

>Amen.


---------------------------------------------------------------------
"Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the
gallery of ignorance" - Robert Green Ingersoll

"Nothing could be more idiotic and absurd than the
doctrine of the trinity" - Robert Green Ingersoll
---------------------------------------------------------------------

----------- A t h e i s t ------------

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John Locke wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 01:45:49 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>"John Locke" wrote in message news:j5ckif9sm27qkkdl5...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>"Andrew" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>>>>in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
>>>>galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
>>>>living God, loves you.
>>>>
>>>
>>>....wrong !!..you have no creator, no "living God"
>>
>>I do. He is the awesome and wonderful One.
>>
>
> ...no, you don't. There's nothing really "awesome and wonderful"
> about a fictional deity.
>
>
>>Our Creator. Glory to Him.
>>
>
> ..no, not "our"..it's YOUR creator..it's YOUR
> delusion..not ours.

He has no evidence of it. None whatsoever.




> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the
> gallery of ignorance" - Robert Green Ingersoll
>
> "Nothing could be more idiotic and absurd than the
> doctrine of the trinity" - Robert Green Ingersoll
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------


--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

Don Martin

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On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 20:44:46 -0700 (PDT), michelle...@gmail.com
wrote:
If ignorance is bliss, Androol is in a constant state of hysteria.

Andrew

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"----------- A t h e i s t ------------" wrote in message news:wf-dnd6LNPY-f7HC...@supernews.com...
> John Locke wrote:
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>
>>>"John Locke" wrote in message news:j5ckif9sm27qkkdl5...@4ax.com...
>>>>"Andrew" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>>>>>in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
>>>>>galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
>>>>>living God, loves you.
>>>>
>>>>....wrong !!..you have no creator, no "living God"
>>>
>>>I do. He is the awesome and wonderful One.
>>
>> ...no, you don't. There's nothing really "awesome and wonderful"
>> about a fictional deity.
>>
>>>Our Creator. Glory to Him.
>>
>> ..no, not "our"..it's YOUR creator..it's YOUR
>> delusion..not ours.
>
> He has no evidence of it. None whatsoever.

The entire Creation is all the evidence you need.

Furthermore, you have no excuse.

None whatsoever.

Andrew

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Aug 7, 2020, 6:43:15 AM8/7/20
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"John Locke" wrote in message news:8nlpifpgaeli783ep...@4ax.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>>"John Locke" wrote:
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>
>>>>This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>>>>in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
>>>>galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
>>>>living God, loves you.
>>>>
>>> ....wrong !!..you have no creator, no "living God"
>>
>>I do. He is the awesome and wonderful One.
>>
> ...no, you don't. There's nothing really "awesome and wonderful"
> about a fictional deity.
>
>>Our Creator. Glory to Him.
>>
> ..no, not "our"..it's YOUR creator..it's YOUR
> delusion..not ours.

Why don't you like Him?

He is sooooo wonderful!

Andrew

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<michelle...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ca73380a-9b23-4914...@googlegroups.com...
> Lucifer wrote:
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>> >"LinuxGal" wrote:
>> >> Andrew wrote:
We descended from our first parents who themselves
were directly created by...our Creator, the living God.

Andrew

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<michelle...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:f4d1076f-3fcc-4ce3...@googlegroups.com...
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>
>> 1) When WAS this world "created"?
>>
>> 2) Why do you keep dodging this question?
>
> Because they can't answer it. Faith keeps them happily ignorant.

It was created ---> at the Beginning.

Write this down and paste it on the wall.

Because you keep asking this.

Andrew

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<michelle...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:a4839963-b89e-48b4...@googlegroups.com...
> Andrew wrote:
>> "John Locke" wrote:
>> > "Andrew" wrote:
>> >
>> >>This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>> >>in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
>> >>galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
>> >>living God, loves you.
>> >>
>> > ....wrong !!..you have no creator, no "living God"
>>
>> I do. He is the awesome and wonderful One.
>>
>> Our Creator. Glory to Him.
>>
>> Amen.
>
> Bibbity bobbity boo!

I always appreciate your special comments, Michelle.

Really I do.

Thank you.

Andrew

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<michelle...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:6da281c0-947f-4b4e...@googlegroups.com...
There are distant galaxies in the background.
True it looks distorted. I don't know why.

kry...@gmail.com

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On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 4:55:06 AM UTC+3, Andrew wrote:
> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
> in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
> galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
> livig God, loves you.
>
> https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg

Galaxies and stars are wonderful view, but there is no god out there.

KRYOEL

LinuxGal

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Aug 7, 2020, 8:37:36 AM8/7/20
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:

> <michelle...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> There are distant galaxies in the background. True it looks distorted. I
> don't know why.

An intervening pool of dark matter can act as a
gravitational lens and throw the image out of whack. That's
one way to FIND dark matter.

Mitchell Holman

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Aug 7, 2020, 8:59:32 AM8/7/20
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"Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net> wrote in
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How long ago was that?


Lucifer

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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 04:00:55 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:
So our first parents were dinosaurs, or further back?
I thought you said like only comes from like.

Lucifer

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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 05:37:05 -0700, LinuxGal <tere...@aqua.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 7 Aug 2020, Andrew wrote:
>
>> <michelle...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> There are distant galaxies in the background. True it looks distorted. I
>> don't know why.
>
>An intervening pool of dark matter can act as a
>gravitational lens and throw the image out of whack. That's
>one way to FIND dark matter.

Riiiight! Dark matter and black holes have not been shown to exist.

John Locke

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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 04:00:55 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:

...hogwash ! ..population genetics DOES NOT support the existence
of a Biblical Adam & Eve:
https://tinyurl.com/yxmm6o8u
"Sscientific evidence shows that Adam and Eve could not have existed,
at least in the way they’re portrayed in the Bible. Genetic data show
no evidence of any human bottleneck as small as two people: there are
simply too many different kinds of genes around for that to be true.
There may have been a couple of “bottlenecks” (reduced population
sizes) in the history of our species, but the smallest one not
involving recent colonization is a bottleneck of roughly 10,000-15,000
individuals that occurred between 50,000 and 100,000 years ago. That’s
as small a population as our ancestors had, and—note—it’s not two
individuals.

Further, looking at different genes, we find that they trace back to
different times in our past. Mitochondrial DNA points to the genes in
that organelle tracing back to a single female ancestor who lived
about 140,000 years ago, but that genes on the Y chromosome trace back
to one male who lived about 60,000-90,000 years ago. Further, the bulk
of genes in the nucleus all trace back to different times—as far back
as two million years. This shows not only that any “Adam” and “Eve”
(in the sense of mitochondrial and Y-chromosome DNA alone) must have
lived thousands of years apart, but also that there simply could not
have been two individuals who provided the entire genetic ancestry of
modern humans. Each of our genes “coalesces” back to a different
ancestor, showing that, as expected, our genetic legacy comes from
many different individuals. It does not go back to just two
individuals, regardless of when they lived."

LinuxGal

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Aug 7, 2020, 11:11:20 AM8/7/20
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Dark matter is evidenced by the doppler-measured velocity of
stars in the limbs of galaxies, which does not fall off with
the square root of the radius from the center. The curve of
the function is remarkably flat, implying that most of the
matter in a galaxy lies outside of the part we can see. We
can't directly see dark matter, though, because it's, uh,
dark.

Andrew

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<kry...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3e333a29-e479-4077...@googlegroups.com...
> Andrew wrote:
>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>> in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
>> galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
>> livig God, loves you.
>>
>> https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg
>
> Galaxies and stars are wonderful view, but there is no god out there.

There is no 'god' period. There is only ---> the living God.

Our Creator.

>
> KRYOEL
>

Andrew

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Aug 7, 2020, 1:03:20 PM8/7/20
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"LinuxGal" wrote in message news:alpine.DEB.2.21.2008070535360.4575@teresita-Latitude-D630...
> Andrew wrote:
>> <michelle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> There are distant galaxies in the background. True it looks
>> distorted. I don't know why.
>
> An intervening pool of dark matter can act as a
> gravitational lens and throw the image out of whack
> That's one way to FIND dark matter.

Are you saying the "image" was distorted rather than the galaxy itself?

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg

Andrew

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Aug 7, 2020, 1:03:49 PM8/7/20
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"John Locke" wrote in message news:tdqqifdm4bd8i653q...@4ax.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
> as small a population as our ancestors had, and-note-it's not two
> individuals.
>
> Further, looking at different genes, we find that they trace back to
> different times in our past. Mitochondrial DNA points to the genes in
> that organelle tracing back to a single female ancestor who lived
> about 140,000 years ago, but that genes on the Y chromosome trace back
> to one male who lived about 60,000-90,000 years ago.

How could they have sex living so far apart?

It would be important for our first parents to
have sex.

Otherwise we would not be here.

Mitchell Holman

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Aug 7, 2020, 2:06:35 PM8/7/20
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"Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net> wrote in
news:rgk1dj$1cqu$1...@gioia.aioe.org:
Where did your god claim to be the only god?



Michael Cole

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Aug 7, 2020, 2:20:48 PM8/7/20
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Saying that the world is "evidence" for a creator is like saying that lightning is evidence for Zeus who sits on his mountain throne throwing the thunderbolts.

Andrew

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Aug 7, 2020, 2:57:18 PM8/7/20
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"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsAC12840D928...@216.166.97.131...
> "Andrew wrote:
>> <kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>>>> in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more
>>>> distant galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome
>>>> Creator, the livig God, loves you.
>>>>
>>>> https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg
>>>
>>> Galaxies and stars are wonderful view, but there is no god out there.
>>
>> There is no 'god' period. There is only ---> the living God.
>
> Where did your god claim to be the only god?

I made the claim. You don't have to believe it.

However it is the truth.

John Locke

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Aug 7, 2020, 3:19:53 PM8/7/20
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 04:00:36 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:
...there was NO creation. The universe we live in does not
in any way, shape or form support your silly notion of a god creator.
Positing your "creation" nonsense is an indignation to nature,
rational humankind and science. Go monger your beads and rattles in a
witchcraft or paseudo-science newsgroup.

>Furthermore, you have no excuse.
>
>None whatsoever.
>
...yes Andrew, you have no excuse for your stone age mentality...this
is the 21rst century. You no longer need to dance around an open fire
chanting and tossing chicken bones !

Peter Pan

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Aug 7, 2020, 5:33:38 PM8/7/20
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"Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net> wrote:

> "John Locke" wrote in message news:tdqqifdm4bd8i653q...@4ax.com...

> > Further, looking at different genes, we find that they trace back to
> > different times in our past. Mitochondrial DNA points to the genes in
> > that organelle tracing back to a single female ancestor who lived
> > about 140,000 years ago, but that genes on the Y chromosome trace back
> > to one male who lived about 60,000-90,000 years ago.
>
> How could they have sex living so far apart?
>
> It would be important for our first parents to
> have sex.
>
> Otherwise we would not be here.

Back in those days, people had very long lives.
It says so in the bible.

Peter Pan

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Aug 7, 2020, 5:41:02 PM8/7/20
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The universe and everything in it came about naturally.

The entire Nature is all the evidence you need.

Lucifer

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Aug 7, 2020, 7:11:21 PM8/7/20
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 04:00:36 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:

We need evidence for creation.

>Furthermore, you have no excuse.
>
>None whatsoever.

Evolution selects for the fittest to breed, not the smartest.

Lucifer

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Aug 7, 2020, 7:13:14 PM8/7/20
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 04:00:46 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:
Could God be any more wonderful, say by ensuring all life is
happy and healthy?

Lucifer

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Aug 7, 2020, 7:14:54 PM8/7/20
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 10:19:15 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:
Does life only come from life?

>Our Creator.

I didn't vote for him.

Mitchell Holman

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Aug 7, 2020, 9:55:38 PM8/7/20
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"Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net> wrote in
news:rgk869$aba$1...@gioia.aioe.org:
The Bible proves you wrong. Even
God says there are other gods.





"God has taken his place in the divine council;
in the midst of the gods he holds judgment"
Psalm 82:1



"And God said, Let us make man in OUR image,
after OUR likeness"
Genesis 1:26



"You shall have no other gods before me."
Exodus 20:3


"For the Lord is the great God,
the great King above all gods."
(Ps 95:3)


"For you, Lord, are the Most High over
all the earth; you are exalted far above
all gods."
(Ps 97:9)


"All the gods bow down before the Lord"
(Ps. 97:7).


"I know the Lord is great, and our Lord
is superior to all gods." (Ps. 135:5)


They have driven me today from my share
in the Lord’s inheritance and have said,
‘Go, serve other gods.’
1 Samuel 26:19


Andrew

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Aug 7, 2020, 10:21:04 PM8/7/20
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"Peter Pan" wrote in message news:igiriflraok9q8jc0...@4ax.com...
It did after Creation.

> The entire Nature is all the evidence you need.

Because it points to our Creator.

Who is ---> the living God.

Andrew

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Aug 7, 2020, 10:53:30 PM8/7/20
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"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsAC12D3942AA...@216.166.97.131...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>> "Andrew wrote:
>>>> <kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years
>>>>>> away in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see
>>>>>> more distant galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome
>>>>>> Creator, the livig God, loves you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Galaxies and stars are wonderful view, but there is no god out there.
>>>>
>>>> There is no 'god' period. There is only ---> the living God.
>>>
>>> Where did your god claim to be the only god?
>>
>> I made the claim. You don't have to believe it.
>
> The Bible proves you wrong. Even
> God says there are other gods.

What are called 'other gods' are not real.

As opposed to the real God, who is God..

*******************************
"Our God is in heaven-
he can do whatever he wants!
Their gods are just silver and gold-
things made by human hands.
They have mouths, but they can't speak.
They have eyes, but they can't see.
They have ears, but they can't hear.
They have noses, but they can't smell.
They have hands, but they can't feel.
They have feet, but they can't walk.
They can't even make a noise in their throats!
Let the people who made these gods
and all who trust in them
become just like them!"
~ Psalm 115:3-8

John Locke

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Aug 8, 2020, 12:54:59 AM8/8/20
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 10:19:15 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:

..no Andrew...your god is just as dead as all the other thousands of
"one true living gods". If you really want to prusue this
"living god" thing, then try a highly advanced alien..at least you'll
have a tiny glimmer of hope.

>Our Creator.
>
..onnce again. It's not "Our" creator...it's YOUR delusion, it's
YOUR creator. We want nothing to do with your silly,
childish fairy tale !

>> KRYOEL

John Locke

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Aug 8, 2020, 12:57:05 AM8/8/20
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 12:14:50 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:
..me too !! There's a Bigfoot living in my back yard.
You don't have to believe it, however it is the truth !

John Locke

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Aug 8, 2020, 1:00:22 AM8/8/20
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On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 20:11:01 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:

>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsAC12D3942AA...@216.166.97.131...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>>> "Andrew wrote:
>>>>> <kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years
>>>>>>> away in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see
>>>>>>> more distant galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome
>>>>>>> Creator, the livig God, loves you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Galaxies and stars are wonderful view, but there is no god out there.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no 'god' period. There is only ---> the living God.
>>>>
>>>> Where did your god claim to be the only god?
>>>
>>> I made the claim. You don't have to believe it.
>>
>> The Bible proves you wrong. Even
>> God says there are other gods.
>
>What are called 'other gods' are not real.
>
>As opposed to the real God, who is God..
>
..nope. That's where you're all fucked up. My god
JuJu is the only real god...your "God" is a phony
and so are all the other alleged gods. See how that works ?

Michael Cole

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Aug 8, 2020, 1:08:15 AM8/8/20
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On Saturday, August 8, 2020 at 12:57:05 AM UTC-4, John Locke wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 12:14:50 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
> wrote:
>
> >"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsAC12840D928...@216.166.97.131...
> >> "Andrew wrote:
> >>> <kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Andrew wrote:
> >>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
> >>>>> in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more
> >>>>> distant galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome
> >>>>> Creator, the livig God, loves you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> Galaxies and stars are wonderful view, but there is no god out there.
> >>>
> >>> There is no 'god' period. There is only ---> the living God.
> >>
> >> Where did your god claim to be the only god?
> >
> >I made the claim. You don't have to believe it.
> >
> >However it is the truth.
>
> ..me too !! There's a Bigfoot living in my back yard.
> You don't have to believe it, however it is the truth !
>
It is a matter of faith. Some people just don't have faith in your Bigfoot.

John Locke

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Aug 8, 2020, 1:27:04 AM8/8/20
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...heh, heh...I have evidence..I'll send Androol a bag of scat !

Andrew

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Aug 8, 2020, 6:54:43 AM8/8/20
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"John Locke" wrote in message news:q1csifl9gsj5c8hpo...@4ax.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>> "Andrew wrote:
>>>> <kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>>>>>> in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more
>>>>>> distant galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome
>>>>>> Creator, the livig God, loves you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Galaxies and stars are wonderful view, but there is no god out there.
>>>>
>>>> There is no 'god' period. There is only ---> the living God.
>>>
>>> Where did your god claim to be the only god?
>>
>>I made the claim. You don't have to believe it.
>>
>>However it is the truth.
>
> ..me too !! There's a Bigfoot living in my back yard.
> You don't have to believe it, however it is the truth !

Are you on a friendly basis with him?

And did you give him a name?

Do you feed him?

Andrew

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Aug 8, 2020, 6:55:09 AM8/8/20
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"John Locke" wrote in message news:okbsifp5g59n23dtd...@4ax.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>><kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>>>> in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more distant
>>>> galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome Creator, the
>>>> livig God, loves you.
>>>>
>>>> https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg
>>>
>>> Galaxies and stars are wonderful view, but there is no god out there.
>>
>>There is no 'god' period. There is only ---> the living God.
>>
> ..no Andrew...your god is just as dead as all the other thousands of
> "one true living gods".

Jesus' tomb is empty.

> If you really want to prusue this
> "living god" thing, then try a highly advanced alien..at least you'll
> have a tiny glimmer of hope.

For instance. . .

>>Our Creator.
>>
> ..onnce again. It's not "Our" creator...it's YOUR delusion, it's
> YOUR creator.

Then explain where did you come from? No fantasy either.

Andrew

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Aug 8, 2020, 6:55:41 AM8/8/20
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"John Locke" wrote in message news:p5csifphjrrnpmq2c...@4ax.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>>>> "Andrew wrote:
>>>>>> <kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years
>>>>>>>> away in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see
>>>>>>>> more distant galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome
>>>>>>>> Creator, the livig God, loves you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Galaxies and stars are wonderful view, but there is no god out there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no 'god' period. There is only ---> the living God.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where did your god claim to be the only god?
>>>>
>>>> I made the claim. You don't have to believe it.
>>>
>>> The Bible proves you wrong. Even
>>> God says there are other gods.
>>
>>What are called 'other gods' are not real.
>>
>>As opposed to the real God, who is God..
>>
> ..nope. That's where you're all fucked up. My god
> JuJu is the only real god...your "God" is a phony
> and so are all the other alleged gods. See how that
> works ?

Can JuJu fix your leg?

JWS

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Aug 8, 2020, 7:11:35 AM8/8/20
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His name is Darryl.
>
> Do you feed him?

Don Martin

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Aug 8, 2020, 8:43:11 AM8/8/20
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2020 21:57:03 -0700, John Locke
<johnnyd...@demonmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 12:14:50 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
>wrote:
>
>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:XnsAC12840D928...@216.166.97.131...
>>> "Andrew wrote:
>>>> <kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years away
>>>>>> in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see more
>>>>>> distant galaxies in the background. Remember that our awesome
>>>>>> Creator, the livig God, loves you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Galaxies and stars are wonderful view, but there is no god out there.
>>>>
>>>> There is no 'god' period. There is only ---> the living God.
>>>
>>> Where did your god claim to be the only god?
>>
>>I made the claim. You don't have to believe it.
>>
>>However it is the truth.
>
>..me too !! There's a Bigfoot living in my back yard.
>You don't have to believe it, however it is the truth !

And my unicorn, Flossy, daily shits a 50 gram gold ingot of Credit
Suisse, and she only eats broccoli: this really helps the household
budget!

--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.

Don Martin

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Aug 8, 2020, 8:43:12 AM8/8/20
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THAT's certainly carrying coals to Newcastle.

Mitchell Holman

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Aug 8, 2020, 9:17:41 AM8/8/20
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"Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net> wrote in
news:rgl433$1hce$1...@gioia.aioe.org:

> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> news:XnsAC12D3942AA...@216.166.97.131...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>>> "Andrew wrote:
>>>>> <kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>> This is galaxy NGC 2442, which is about 50 million light-years
>>>>>>> away in the southern constellation of Piscis. You can also see
>>>>>>> more distant galaxies in the background. Remember that our
>>>>>>> awesome Creator, the livig God, loves you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2008/NGC2442_HstGendler_2400.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Galaxies and stars are wonderful view, but there is no god out
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no 'god' period. There is only ---> the living God.
>>>>
>>>> Where did your god claim to be the only god?
>>>
>>> I made the claim. You don't have to believe it.
>>
>> The Bible proves you wrong. Even
>> God says there are other gods.
>
> What are called 'other gods' are not real.


So the Bible is wrong?

----------- A t h e i s t ------------

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Aug 8, 2020, 1:35:32 PM8/8/20
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Andrew wrote:
>
> Who is ---> the living God.

It has chosen to perpetually hide itself up your ass.

LOL.


--
There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
A Jesus is as useful as a Zeus.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is _THE_ foundation of Christianity.
sycophant - an ass kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

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Aug 8, 2020, 1:45:59 PM8/8/20
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Andrew wrote:
>
> Jesus' tomb is empty.

There is no evidence that your Jesus existed; anonymous fairy-tale
Jesus stories are _not_ evidence.

Good evidence, of which you have _none_, would include:
- Contemporaneous writings of non-anonymous eye-witnesses.
- Contemporaneous official Roman government records about
the miracle worker.
- Contemporaneous other government records about the miracle
worker in Palestine.
- Today, [imaginary] Jesus himself appears and tells us.
- Verifiable evidence of miracles/devils/angels/heaven/hell/etc existing.

You've got _none_ of that. _None_ whatsoever.
----------------------------------------------------------

----------- A t h e i s t ------------

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Aug 8, 2020, 1:57:52 PM8/8/20
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
> "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net> wrote in
>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>"Andrew" wrote:
>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>>>>"Andrew wrote:
>>>>>><kry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> , the livig God, loves you.
>>>>>>>
And there is the [imaginary] Christian god 'Satan' with supernatural powers.

But I agree with Andrew, it too is not real.

LOL.

Lucifer

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Aug 8, 2020, 10:12:38 PM8/8/20
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 04:12:16 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:
If you feed your god you will not be able to get rid of it.

Lucifer

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Aug 8, 2020, 10:19:39 PM8/8/20
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On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 04:12:43 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net>
wrote:
Is there an explanation that is not a fantasy?

michelle...@gmail.com

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Aug 9, 2020, 12:51:02 AM8/9/20
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On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 6:43:40 AM UTC-4, Andrew wrote:
> <michelle...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:f4d1076f-3fcc-4ce3...@googlegroups.com...
> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>
> >> 1) When WAS this world "created"?
> >>
> >> 2) Why do you keep dodging this question?
> >
> > Because they can't answer it. Faith keeps them happily ignorant.
>
> It was created ---> at the Beginning.
>
> Write this down and paste it on the wall.
>
> Because you keep asking this.

Only if you put this plaque on your wall - 'Religious faith is not an answer.
You have no answer because you simply don't know. You just accept.'

By the way, pasting papers on your wall can be destructive to the wall
or wallpaper.
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