Why are atheists afraid of the supernatural?
Jerry Vanderpelt
Why?
What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
V
wrote:
> Why?
>
> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
Yes, atheists are a very scared lot.
It is all about control...the atheist cannot be god any longer and
must admit higher powers than themselves are in charge of their
life...that is what scares them to death.
....my discussion of this topic from an earlier post.
BuddyThunder wrote:
"I've recently read a bunch of posts from the local theists of various
unsupportable beliefs calling atheists worshippers of this and
that.Darwin, science, money, rationalism, ourselves, and the senses
have all got the treatment, but non sequiturs like this simply make
the poster look hysterical and silly. For the theists among us: I am
an atheist. I worship nothing.... Incidentally, so do you!"
*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
V:
Thanks for your post BuddyThunder
I've noticed this phenomena many times at alt.atheism.
Atheists seem to think if they 'justify' something in their mind, then
the 'god of logic' will make it true in the real world.
Unfortunately they forget they are humans and not machines.
The nature of humans is that of imperfection - it is only the nature
of gods to be perfect.
As such, what is logical is not always practical when it comes to
humans.
And this fact is only magnified a hundred fold when the logic emanates
from the sick atheist's mind.
Whenever we take it upon ourselves to beat down others, we are headed
in a direction of destroying peace. We destroy our own peace as well
as others peace. It takes no energy from me to pass something by and
leave it alone in peace. But it takes my energy as well as my peace to
pick something up to destroy it.
When I posted this paragraph earlier, an atheist piped to call me a
liar and accuse me of hypocrisy, telling me that I destroy a potato
when I pick it up to eat it.
Natural law dictates I must eat, but there is no law that says I must
spew venom from my mouth to destroy others.
If atheists can get over fishing for red herrings and get onto bigger
fish to fry they will see a world of difference in their peace
practice.
The destruction of inner peace by destroying potatoes comes about when
I destroy my neighbors crop field of potatoes by poisoning them to
bankrupt him in order to take over his farmland...it does not come
about by eating a potato.
The God of Nature gives me potatoes to eat, the God of inner Peace
tells me to not eat potatoes in excess or to destroy others if I wish
to be at peace. I cannot see either God, I know not how they work, I
just know they are.
See:
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=342.0
Being truth based instead of ego based, I have no need for
justification, I just seek the truth BuddyThunder.
See:
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=532.0
I look impartially at theists as well as atheists. If I did otherwise,
I could not be truth based, but would be ego based.
Do I seek to destroy atheists?
No, to do so would destroy me as well.
But, I do seek to have an opinion and comment on their actions.
And if what I say is false, then refute me, so I may adopt the truth
BuddyThunder.
But, the facts show the more I write, the less the atheists refute
BuddyThunder.
Atheists are a sad lot. They have no answers for me. You would think
if they cannot answer a proposition, they would look into it for
aspects of truth.
But honor dies where the interest lies BuddyThunder.
And with atheists their interest is in 'claiming they do not worship
anything under the sun'...well except worshiping themselves it seems.
But as atheists are ego based and not truth based BuddyThunder, they
are run by confused passions and deceit, as their ego's spin webs to
make their delusional and toxic thoughts appear as truth to them.
How could they live otherwise? The toxicity would kill them!
So, I am afraid I must disagree and rest on 'what is' true and not
what 'you wish' to be true BuddyThunder.
Now, you don't have to rationalize and justify yourself to me my
friend, you are free to do and think as you like BuddyThunder.
Thoreau once said when people invited him to dinner they put their
pride in how fancy and expensive a meal they could make. Whereas he
put his pride in how simple and inexpensive a meal he could make.
Where do you put your pride BuddyThunder?
Don't put your pride in saying 'I am an atheist and worship nothing'.
May I be so bold as to suggest you put your pride in being at peace
BuddyThunder.
Thoreau also said a thousand will strike at the branches of evil, but
only one will strike at the roots...be that one atheist that strikes
with truth BuddyThunder
But, no matter how you slice it, the fact remains, the confused, mind
manacled, spiritually sick atheist do worship many false gods
BuddyThunder.
Atheists worship their intellect, atheists make the test tube their
god, atheists worship hatred, atheists worship ignorance and
deceit...and atheists deify themselves BuddyThunder.
But humans do not make good gods BuddyThunder.
For once they become a god in their mind, they think they are perfect
and lose that part of being human that distinguishes them from all
else...they lose their conscience BuddyThunder.
And in the process, these self defied atheist gods loose all touch
with humanity BuddyThunder.
We can see this come to life with the quote below from Enkidu. This
same thinking that Enkidu uses to convince itself that it knows
everything about everything is what fuels the delusional atheists
mind.
This ego based foundation of godlike knowledge tells the atheist that
they know the unknowable.
Such atheists are only haggard shells of a human, withering away in
their hate based, delusional stew they call a life.
And as they live on a diet of hate and self righteous deceit - over
time, this poison festers and yields them a putrid, cesspool of a life
that manifests itself as the tragedy upon humanity known as the
dogmatic, mind manacled, spiritually sick atheist.
The atheist that only has a foundation of ego and hate will never find
peace BuddyThunder.
Despite Neil's claims to the contrary..this is 'universal law'
BuddyThunder.
We can see what happened recently at alt.athesim when we had a
'potential atheist convert' questioning their faith wondered onto our
board.
They could see 'atheism in action' for themselves with many
spiritually sick example members and their projection of this
spiritual sickness and self hate onto others.
They left in a few days offering...thanks...but no thanks.
These potential 'atheist converts' soon go back to their priest or
minister begging them to be admitted back into the flock...and who
could blame them!
For the 'God delusion' at least delivers a modicum of peace
Whereas the hate fueled, toxic, cesspool of a mind that atheists rely
on yields zero peace.
But such a mind is good for one thing BuddyThunder...it is good for
poisoning the individual and everyone around them.
Be honest with yourself BuddyThunder. Can poison, hatred and
destruction that the atheist offer ever yield you inner peace?
See:
http://www.churcharson.com/act_now/
I submit that you all drop the pretense and lies that you have been
grasping onto for entire life BuddyThunder and rebuild your life
through a foundation of truth and testing and regenerate yourself into
a truth based agnostic freethinker.
I've run into many of toxic atheists over the last 10 years
BuddyThunder. And can tell you without any doubt, that the atheist
that only has a foundation of ego, delusion and hate can and will
never find peace.
When this self deification occurs, the result is always the
same...they all self-destruct...the poison gets to them sooner or
later.
Lets look at one such self deified atheist Enkidu.
Now Enkidu knows everything about everything and no one can tell 'it'
a thing.
(BTW Enkidu, what is your gender so I may address you properly. I know
you are a shame based individual and are predisposed to hiding. But
offering your gender should be not be that big of a deal?)
Enkidu writes: "You (V) have nothing to say that we haven't heard
before, nothing to say that hasn't been say better by others, and
nothing to say that was worth hearing when said better by others. Your
pathetic little turds of truth are unoriginal*, irrational, ill-
conceived, ill-received, and devoid of value. But no, with all the
understanding of diarrhoeic bull's ass, you continue to spray shit
with abandon. " (condensed)
When you become this mind manacled as Enkidu, you make yourself the
god, you know all there is to know about everything under the sun and
forget you are interdependent with others as well as the spirit.
See:
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=613.0
Enkidu is free to have an opinion and speak for itself, but Enkidu
also speaks for 'all' of alt.atheism as well!
Who do I tell you I speak for?
For myself, my sig line I have used in the past state..."any opinion
expressed here is that of my own and is not the opinion,
recommendation or belief of any group or organization."
This is the clue of self deification BuddyThunder.
When we think we 'control all' and 'can speak for' and 'know all'...we
think we are god.
Now, Enkidu is not alone.
There are a few more mind manacled atheist gods here... Raven,
Robibnikoff, Bilbo, Michael Gray, Kate, Floyd, Neil, Michelle,
Parsifa, Martin, Lucifer, Syd M, John #1782, Kate, Hollis,
Gail,...they are all good examples of this sickness of self
deification.
They pass their time by as perennial fiends of shame and hostility,
just more cowards behind their keyboards, provoking others through
their frantic efforts to bloat their ego by degrading people in their
misguided hopes of finding inner peace.
But peace eludes them at every step. The more they write, the sicker
they become.
Can it be any other way when we administer poison BuddyThunder?
It is just like drinking salt water to quench thirst - futile.
So are the efforts of these sad and hopeless individuals that think
maybe they can find inner peace by hurting and destroying others.
As James Allen tell us...
"Good thoughts and actions can never produce bad results. Bad thoughts
and actions can never produce good results. This is but saying that
nothing can come from corn but corn, nothing from nettles but nettles.
Men understand this law in the natural world, and work with it. But
few understand it in the mental and moral world...
and
"To think well of all, to be cheerful with all, to patiently learn to
find the good in all - such unselfish thoughts are the very portals of
heaven; and to dwell day by day in thoughts of peace toward every
creature will bring abounding peace to their possessor."
This doesn't mean we have to not be concerned with danger to our well
being by any particular group. but, it also reminds us we will never
be at peace by fostering hatred for another.
As Enkidu tells us above..all this is nothing original*....what I've
said nothing new - as Raven, Robibnikoff, Bilbo, Michael Gray, Kate,
Floyd, Neil, Michelle, Parsifa, Martin, Lucifer, Syd M, John #1782,
Enkidu, Kate, Hollis, Gail already knows everything about
everything.....
As I have told Raven and will tell the rest of you - we can change our
current life, a life that yields us nothing but pain and suffering,
into a new life of joy and inner peace. We transform ourselves by the
simple action of taking that first step in the opposite direction that
we have been headed in for so long...but I can't take that first step
for you my friend.
Also see:
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=509.0
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=614.0
*For your information Enkidu, a portion of what I write is original,
so you may wish to amend your words somewhat. But do not get stuck
with 'a thing being original or not original,' just look at it for
practical application for its truth with yielding peace Enkidu.
See:
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=4.0
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
Mark K. Bilbo
> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
How are we scared of something that doesn't exist?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
Richo
wrote:
> Why?
>
Why do you believe that atheists are afraid of the supernatural?
> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
Let us first establish that they are - don't get ahead of yourself.
Mark.
Jerry Vanderpelt
You seem to be afraid of anything that might control the universe if
that thing has an actual mind and will which is above yours.
Jerry Vanderpelt
>On Jul 28, 9:12?am, Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> Why?
>>
>> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>
>
>Yes, atheists are a very scared lot.
>
>It is all about control...the atheist cannot be god any longer and
>must admit higher powers than themselves are in charge of their
>life...that is what scares them to death.
Exactly! That's what I notice too!
Jerry Vanderpelt
Because they reject everything supernatural from what I can tell.
People reject things when they are afraid of them.
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:56:37 -0000, Richo <m.richa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo
> You seem to be afraid of anything that might control the universe if
> that thing has an actual mind and will which is above yours.
Says who?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Warned you we tried! Listen you did not! Now screwed
we will all be!"
http://www.sequentialpictures.com/moviestarwarsepisode3.html
Richo
> On Jul 28, 9:12?am, Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Why?
>
> > What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>
> Yes, atheists are a very scared lot.
>
> It is all about control...the atheist cannot be god any longer and
> must admit higher powers than themselves are in charge of their
> life...that is what scares them to death.
>
Poppycock.
Got it exactly backwards.
It is the god believers who are the control freaks - they believe they
have a direct communication channel to the creator and controller of
the universe - they are desperate to be the loyal pets of the Biggest
and Baddest force in the universe - so they can conquer even death!
This grand delusion is psychologically necessary because they are
aware of how small and finite and mortal they really are - so the god
thing is an attempt to control - via ritual flattery and begging
behavior (worship, prayer, sacrifice etc) - the great invisible
"Dominant Alpha Male" in the sky.
It's pretty obvious when (or if ) you think about it.
Of course one reason we construct these religious beliefs is to avoid
at all costs actually "thinking about it".
Mark.
Mark K. Bilbo
> Because they reject everything supernatural from what I can tell. People
> reject things when they are afraid of them.
Do you believe in Santa Claus?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"How come God gets credit whenever something good happens? Where was he
when her heart stopped?"
- Dr. House
raven1
<jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Why?
We aren't.
>
>What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
What is it that makes you think anything "supernatural" exists?
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
Mark K. Bilbo
Oh good, kook tag team action...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys
on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING
like Shakespeare!" - Blair Houghton
raven1
>
>You seem to be afraid of anything that might control the universe if
>that thing has an actual mind and will which is above yours.
No more so than we are afraid that Santa will put coal in our
stockings if we are naughty.
raven1
<jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Because they reject everything supernatural from what I can tell.
>People reject things when they are afraid of them.
Or when there's no good reason to think that they exist. Read a book
on critical thinking and get back to us.
And stop top-posting while you're at it.
Christopher A.Lee
<gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:12:09 +0000, Jerry Vanderpelt wrote:
>
>> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>
>How are we scared of something that doesn't exist?
Why are so many theists such slanderous liars?
raven1
Just to clue you in, "V" is a blithering idiot, whose reference to
"higher powers" comes from his participation in 12-step programs...
Richo
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:00:27 -0500, Jerry Vanderpelt wrote:
> > On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:32:16 -0700, V <vf...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Jul 28, 9:12?am, Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> Why?
>
> >>> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>
> >>Yes, atheists are a very scared lot.
>
> >>It is all about control...the atheist cannot be god any longer and must
> >>admit higher powers than themselves are in charge of their life...that
> >>is what scares them to death.
>
> > Exactly! That's what I notice too!
>
> Oh good, kook tag team action...
>
I'll make popcorn!
(Although V is not usually a very entertaining Kook...)
Mark.
Scott Richter
> Why?
>
> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
We're not scared of the supernatural. We're scared of religious
douchebags who use *their* delusional beliefs about the supernatural to
fly airplanes into buildings. Do you understand the difference, little
fella?
Robibnikoff
"Jerry Vanderpelt" <jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:12gma31l6emshpbfq...@4ax.com...
>
> Why?
>
> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
Nothing.
WTF are you talking about?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
Robibnikoff
>
> You seem to be afraid of anything that might control the universe if
> that thing has an actual mind and will which is above yours.
You seem to be an idiot who likes making things up as he babbles merrily
along.
Christopher A.Lee
<gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:59:26 -0500, Jerry Vanderpelt wrote:
>
>> You seem to be afraid of anything that might control the universe if
>> that thing has an actual mind and will which is above yours.
>
>Says who?
Lying theists who amateur psychologise their own bigoted falsehoods
about us to come up with yet more slanderous nastiness.
Jerry Vanderpelt
Why are so many atheists cowards who are afraid of a higher power?
You want to be your own god, don't you?
de_menezes
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message news:8OSdnVJrGtAX0zbb...@giganews.com...
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:59:26 -0500, Jerry Vanderpelt wrote:
>
>> You seem to be afraid of anything that might control the universe if
>> that thing has an actual mind and will which is above yours.
>
> Says who?
Oh, little Bilbo doesn't trust anyone but himself.
It is so saaad.
de_menezes
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message news:8OSdnUxrGtCH0jbb...@giganews.com...
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:02:06 -0500, Jerry Vanderpelt wrote:
>
>> Because they reject everything supernatural from what I can tell. People
>> reject things when they are afraid of them.
>
> Do you believe in Santa Claus?
I don't, but I also don't believe in Mark K. Bilbo.
What's your point?
de_menezes
"Scott Richter" <scottri...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1i1y9uw.1dx8jag1j3310mN%scottri...@yahoo.com...
Hm, hm, airplanes into buildings? Wasn't that like NOT a religious
thing, but somekind of a payback? Punishment for all the bad things
US has done to the Middle East?
de_menezes
"raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message news:0sjma3pif6movtd33...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:02:06 -0500, Jerry Vanderpelt
> <jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Because they reject everything supernatural from what I can tell.
>>People reject things when they are afraid of them.
>
> Or when there's no good reason to think that they exist. Read a book
> on critical thinking and get back to us.
Hohoho, little raven has read a book and now he is 'zmart'.
de_menezes
"raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message news:7njma3h9sd571h951...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:12:09 GMT, Jerry Vanderpelt
> <jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Why?
>
> We aren't.
JAWOHL, Mein Fuhrer!
>>What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>
> What is it that makes you think anything "supernatural" exists?
Your stupidity.
Mark K. Bilbo
V reminds me of Lieberman, he can suck the life out a room by just
walking into it...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Arrogance has to be earned. Tell me what you've done to earn yours."
- Dr. House
Mark K. Bilbo
Ah, yes, them...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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TRUECRISTIAN
of
life,and they continue inspired hatred and rage among Islamic
people.This is
no isolated incidence,but widespread,and one could just scant through
for
the past 50 years to see how violent and evil they had been.These
people are
only restraint by the Laws of the Land.
,All terrorists are Muslims.It is a religion based on hate,and never
on
forgiveness and never showed tolerance,not until Laws of the land
step
in to
educate them.
,It is a religion that despised women,and held women under
bondage,and
made
them wear clothes that is unheathy to living normally,and a man could
have
up to 4 wives.This ridiculous notion satisfy the appetite of lusts in
the
fallen nature of man.
Without the West influence upon them,through education and common-
sense
they would have turn the world into uncivilised world,one which
borders
on
Mark K. Bilbo
> Why are so many atheists cowards who are afraid of a higher power?
What higher power? You mean the power lines up there? Yeah, I'm afraid of
them, they can kill you.
> You want to be your own god, don't you?
Why would I want to not exist?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
de_menezes
"raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message news:qpjma395qjga2ejdr...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:59:26 -0500, Jerry Vanderpelt
> <jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>You seem to be afraid of anything that might control the universe if
>>that thing has an actual mind and will which is above yours.
>
> No more so than we are afraid that Santa will put coal in our
> stockings if we are naughty.
So, you guys are evil?
Oh, oh. I get it. I must trust the good ol' atheist 'responsibility
for their actions' Sky Pixie to come in and handle that, riiight?
de_menezes
"Christopher A.Lee" <ca...@optonline.net> wrote in message news:stjma3lcfpeeduqo9...@4ax.com...
Are they any different than you? Or Uncle Vic? Robbibnikoff? raven?
Bob
<jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Why are so many atheists cowards who are afraid of a higher power?
>You want to be your own god, don't you?
I would submit that it's the *theists* that in effect "are their own
gods", in that whether or not any gods actually exist, theists just
unintentionally project their own existing points of view onto their
gods. After all, when's the last time you heard a theist say they
disagree with their god?
William Wingstedt
<jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Why?
>
>What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>
What is it about natural that isn't good enough for you that you have
to invent "supernatural?"
TRUECRISTIAN
> > here, make yourself out to be some Nazi, making racial slurs about
> > negros, calling on God to infect people with Cancer, you write >
with > > very little english Grammer, and have numerous spelling
mistakes, > > then have the nerve to call me unintelligent, I
shouldn't even > begin > > to respond to this, as its becoming more
and more obvious you are > > ethier a arrogant liberal, coming on to
MY site, and insulting us, > > when we are doing nothing to you, not
bothering you in the > > slightest, not forcing our views down your
throat. Or if not some > > liberal, then you are mentally retarded or
are quite disturbed. > ok, > > here is what is going to happen, you
WILL apologise to me and > > everyone else you have insulted on this
board, or you will be > > banned, I am not going to put up with some
moronic fool coming on > to > > my site, and acting like you own the
place. When did I ever come to your site to say anything?
GreyHairedFart
news:1185632690.1...@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
Cue the guitar and fiddle. Later we'll make 'em squeal like a pig.
--
My atheism, like that of Spinoza, is true piety towards the universe
and denies only gods fashioned by men in their own image,
to be servants of their human interests.
George Santayana
Josef Balluch
> Because they reject everything supernatural from what I can tell.
> People reject things when they are afraid of them.
What is it about atheism that frightens you?
raven1
<de_me...@gmail.com> wrote:
What an obnoxious prick you are.
<plonk>
Medusa
wrote:
> Why are so many atheists cowards who are afraid of a higher power?
> You want to be your own god, don't you?
We are not afraid of a "higher power," as we don't believe in any
higher powers.
What scares me is the religious nuts who will kill others who do not
share their beliefs. Some are so crazy, they will blow themselves up
to kill others.
That's what I'm afraid of.
Medusa
Greywolf
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:32:16 -0700, V <vf...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jul 28, 9:12?am, Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>> Why?
>>>
>>> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>>
>>
>>Yes, atheists are a very scared lot.
>>
>>It is all about control...the atheist cannot be god any longer and
>>must admit higher powers than themselves are in charge of their
>>life...that is what scares them to death.
>
> Exactly! That's what I notice too!
>
Think about who's *really* scared. We atheists have examined the question as
to whether or not there's a 'God' on a level the theists can only *dream*
about. (The theist is too scared to examine their faith with a critical eye
because they *believe* that somehow a 'God' would punish them for doing so
for having too little 'faith'.) We have discovered that there is no 'God' of
*any* flavor or stripe. Otherwise, we would be Christians or some other type
of 'God believer'.
Scared to death, you say? Well why do you often call yourselves, 'God
fearing' and not 'God loving'? Face it, many of you are so scared of the
unknown that I'm surprised many of you don't waddle around with poo-poo
filled pant trousers, and jogging pants just stained with you-know-what. The
atheist, by way of contrast, is free from that fear and can go around
behaving in a morally upright way that would put many a so-called
'Christian' to envious shame.
You Christians *fear* 'God', not 'love' him.
Greywolf
Medusa
> > We're not scared of the supernatural. We're scared of religious
> > douchebags who use *their* delusional beliefs about the supernatural to
> > fly airplanes into buildings. Do you understand the difference, little
> > fella?
>
> Hm, hm, airplanes into buildings? Wasn't that like NOT a religious
> thing, but somekind of a payback? Punishment for all the bad things
> US has done to the Middle East?
Ah, duh. It was an extreme act of religious belief; their religious
leaders instructed them to do this act. The murders were promised
instant entry into paradise for committing this heinious crime.
Now you are scaring me.
Medusa
de_menezes
"Josef Balluch" <josef....@sympatico.can> wrote in message news:f8fq6j$7cg$1...@aioe.org...
Atheists. There is nothing wrong with atheism itself, atheists are the ones
to be afraid. Since atheists are the ones lying in the name of their beliefs.
de_menezes
"William Wingstedt" <William_...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:46ab6840....@Newsgroups.Comcast.net...
While your precious science cannot and never will be able to explain
every single little thing in the Universe (although they would love it if they
could, because, then they could control it), there will always be supernatural
things.
Supernatural has always been with us, and always will be.
de_menezes
"raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message news:20rma3d72od5rbj3c...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:55:14 +0200, "de_menezes"
> <de_me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What an obnoxious prick you are.
Oh, so in other words; you hate me, because I am right, riiight?
AND you hate me, because I take an unorthodox approach in criticizing
atheism and atheists. For presenting them as just another brainwashed
bunch of scared little people who need something to hold on to. WHILE,
on the other hand, those same atheists have no problem at all with lying
in order to support their beliefs. In this case, atheism aka godlessness.
In even 'otherer' (lol) words; I am not afraid to say it out loud that atheists
are also lying sacks of shit, just like those religion ridden inbred morons are.
In even 'othererer' words (lmao); I am treating atheists the same way atheists
treat theists, and it seems to me you guys don't like that. Since, obviously, the
'prickness' and 'obnoxiousness' is reserved for little atheists who got hurt when
they were kids because they were made to believe that there is God who is
going to smite them if they would touch their pee-pee.
> <plonk>
OMG, a fu*king GEEK!
Medusa
> All across the world,today's world Muslims practice violence as a way
> of
> life,and they continue inspired hatred and rage among Islamic
> people.This is
> no isolated incidence,but widespread,and one could just scant through
> for
> the past 50 years to see how violent and evil they had been.These
> people are
> only restraint by the Laws of the Land.
>
> ,All terrorists are Muslims.
You are an idiot. There are terrorists of many delusions. Irish
terrorists are not Muslims. Anarchist terrorists are not Muslims.
Anti-goverment terrorists are not Muslims. Read a fucking history
book or two.
Medusa
de_menezes
"Medusa" <Medus...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1185640102.5...@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 28, 10:48 am, "de_menezes" <de_mene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > We're not scared of the supernatural. We're scared of religious
>> > douchebags who use *their* delusional beliefs about the supernatural to
>> > fly airplanes into buildings. Do you understand the difference, little
>> > fella?
>>
>> Hm, hm, airplanes into buildings? Wasn't that like NOT a religious
>> thing, but somekind of a payback? Punishment for all the bad things
>> US has done to the Middle East?
>
> Ah, duh. It was an extreme act of religious belief; their religious
> leaders instructed them to do this act.
So? So what? Isn't it true that your country has been pillaging the
Middle East, installing puppet governments all over it, funding Al
Q'aida, selling the arms to the taleban, and then using those same
people as a universal boogeymen in order to spread and strenghten
their own selfish, american agendas?
The murders were promised
> instant entry into paradise for committing this heinious crime.
So are your american soldiers. Kill an Iraqi, and you'll get a lot of money!
So, terrorists are promised a safe passage into heaven, and to sit next
to God, and little american soldiers are promised a sack o' golden coins
and the most powerful thing in the Universe; PRIDE!
What's the difference?
Oh, yes. Terrorists are bad, and american cover ops and corporate
managers are a blessing, I guess.
Sorry, MY bad.
> Now you are scaring me.
You can't be scared, 'medusa'. So, don't act.
Medusa
WTF?!?
I couldn't even read this mess.
Medusa
de_menezes
"Medusa" <Medus...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1185639705.9...@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 28, 10:23 am, Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Why are so many atheists cowards who are afraid of a higher power?
>> You want to be your own god, don't you?
>
> We are not afraid of a "higher power," as we don't believe in any
> higher powers.
Do you believe in jail? Court? Police? Are you afraid of them?
> What scares me is the religious nuts who will kill others who do not
> share their beliefs. Some are so crazy, they will blow themselves up
> to kill others.
>
> That's what I'm afraid of.
Fair enough, but there are a lot of other things you should be afraid of,
and there a lot of other things you could engage yourself against, instead
spending your precious time coming in here and 'making fun of theists'.
But, I guess, it takes a bit more of them balls in order to fight against
those 'other things', than to make fun of theists and their 'imaginary Sky
Pixie'.
Greywolf
"Greywolf" <grey...@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
news:13amrk1...@news.supernews.com...
>
> "Jerry Vanderpelt" <jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2uima39j1h4tc9lbn...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:32:16 -0700, V <vf...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Jul 28, 9:12?am, Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>> Why?
>>>>
>>>> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, atheists are a very scared lot.
>>>
>>>It is all about control...the atheist cannot be god any longer and
>>>must admit higher powers than themselves are in charge of their
>>>life...that is what scares them to death.
>>
>> Exactly! That's what I notice too!
>>
>
> Think about who's *really* scared. We atheists have examined the question
> eye because they *believe* that somehow a 'God' would punish them for
> doing so for having too little 'faith'.) We have discovered that there is
> no 'God' of *any* flavor or stripe. Otherwise, we would be Christians or
> some other type of 'God believer'.
Let me correct myself a wee bit. I should have said, 'We have discovered no
undeniable evidence *whatsoever* for any 'God' of *any* flavor or stripe.'
(Or a 'Son' of one either!)
Lucifer
wrote:
> Why?
>
> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
I'm not scared of the supernatural, I know it doesn't exist.
Same goes for the Jub Jub Bird and the Frumious Bandersnatch.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
Lucifer
wrote:
> Why are so many atheists cowards who are afraid of a higher power?
> You want to be your own god, don't you?
You dare call me a coward?
Shows how little you know, doesn't it. Why are you too scared to stand
on your own feet, facing the world as an equal. Why are you scared,
why do you need "the supernatural" to reassure you?
The Chief Instigator
>Why?
>What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
It doesn't scare me, since it has yet to actually show proof of its
existence. (You're doing the typical shabby job of "proving" it.)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
Kate
Maybe on your planet.
Here, it never shows up or does anything which is a good reason not to
bother with it.
Scott Richter
Fools like him don't scare me, but like so many religionists he is
uncomfortable contemplating the connection between faith and violence.
That's why they shut out the fact that at the moment these heinous acts
are carried out, the suicide killers scream "God is Great!"
That's why they falsely convince themselves that Christians would never
harm innocent people, that their religion is a "religion of peace".
That's why they euphemistically refer to it as the "War on Terror"
rather than the "War on Fundamentalism".
They avert their eyes because in the midst of this death and
destruction, it is themselves gazing back at them on their television
screens.
Ash
> You seem to be afraid of anything that might control the universe if
> that thing has an actual mind and will which is above yours.
>
> <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:12:09 +0000, Jerry Vanderpelt wrote:
>>
>>> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>
As evidenced by what?
Ash
"if"
The Chief Instigator
>Why?
>What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
Why is it that theist whackjobs like you hang around the Little
Cluster of Mud Huts on the Trinity?
The Chief Instigator
>Because they reject everything supernatural from what I can tell.
>People reject things when they are afraid of them.
Maybe that's how you assume it to be, but you'd be better off not
assuming that all of us share your defective reasoning abilities.
raven1
wrote:
>On Jul 28, 2:12 pm, Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> Why?
>>
>> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>
>
>I'm not scared of the supernatural, I know it doesn't exist.
>
>Same goes for the Jub Jub Bird and the Frumious Bandersnatch.
Scoff as you will, but I'm keeping my vorpal sword nearby just in
case!
parsi...@gmail.com
> Why?
>
> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
What do you know about atheism?
Why are theists so eager to label us and decide for us what we are or
what we think?
Could it be that they're afraid of us?
Christopher A.Lee
wrote:
>On Jul 28, 4:23 pm, Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> Why are so many atheists cowards who are afraid of a higher power?
>> You want to be your own god, don't you?
>
>You dare call me a coward?
>
>Shows how little you know, doesn't it. Why are you too scared to stand
>on your own feet, facing the world as an equal. Why are you scared,
>why do you need "the supernatural" to reassure you?
That's both why and because he's a Christian - the two go together. It
also makes him a cowardly, bullying psychopath who thinks it's fun to
rub his shit in people's faces.
A generation ago he would have been bashing gays. Two generations and
he would have been burning crosses outside African American homes.
Three and he would have been scrawling swastikas on the walls of
Jewish homes.
de_menezes
"Ash" <ash.a...@virgin.net> wrote in message news:pDKqi.10976$sI3....@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
So, you are an 'ifist'? Well, that's pretty calculated, if you ask me.
Andres64
wrote:
> Why?
>
> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
Why are you a moron?
jem
wrote:
>All across the world,today's world Muslims practice violence as a way
>of
>life,and they continue inspired hatred and rage among Islamic
>people.This is
>no isolated incidence,but widespread,and one could just scant through
>for
>the past 50 years to see how violent and evil they had been.These
>people are
>only restraint by the Laws of the Land.
>
>
>,All terrorists are Muslims.It is a religion based on hate,and never
>on
>
>
>forgiveness and never showed tolerance,not until Laws of the land
>step
>in to
>educate them.
>
>
>,It is a religion that despised women,and held women under
>bondage,and
>made
>them wear clothes that is unheathy to living normally,and a man could
>have
>up to 4 wives.This ridiculous notion satisfy the appetite of lusts in
>the
>fallen nature of man.
>
>
>Without the West influence upon them,through education and common-
>sense
>
>
>they would have turn the world into uncivilised world,one which
>borders
>on
isn't jealousy a sin? don't you feel badly now?
Brian E. Clark
4ax.com>, Jerry Vanderpelt said...
> Why are so many atheists cowards who are afraid of a higher power?
> You want to be your own god, don't you?
That is a Christian canard, a persistent piece of
prejudice directed against atheists by people who
have no conception of atheism.
Some believers are so devoid of imagination, and
so thoroughly indoctrinated, that they are
incapable even of imagining a life without God at
its center. They foolishly assume that someone
who doesn't accept their God has "a God-shaped
hole" and must emplace some other god as
substitute.
It's all very childish, and sensible Christians
have nothing to do with such nonsense.
People like you, however, find it to be a
compelling idea.
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
jem
wrote:
>On Jul 28, 11:32 pm, V <vf...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 28, 9:12?am, Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Why?
>>
>> > What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>>
>> Yes, atheists are a very scared lot.
>>
>> It is all about control...the atheist cannot be god any longer and
>> must admit higher powers than themselves are in charge of their
>> life...that is what scares them to death.
>>
>
>Poppycock.
>
>Got it exactly backwards.
>
>It is the god believers who are the control freaks - they believe they
>have a direct communication channel to the creator and controller of
>the universe - they are desperate to be the loyal pets of the Biggest
>and Baddest force in the universe - so they can conquer even death!
>This grand delusion is psychologically necessary because they are
>aware of how small and finite and mortal they really are - so the god
>thing is an attempt to control - via ritual flattery and begging
>behavior (worship, prayer, sacrifice etc) - the great invisible
>"Dominant Alpha Male" in the sky.
>
>It's pretty obvious when (or if ) you think about it.
>
>Of course one reason we construct these religious beliefs is to avoid
>at all costs actually "thinking about it".
>
>Mark.
>
<piggybacking>
well said,
And it seems they think if they can force everybody else to act
according to their beliefs, they will earn super brownie points.
That's the part that pisses me off, I don't want them forcing their
shit on me.
jem
by zero evidence for starters
Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister
> On Jul 28, 9:12?am, Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Why?
>
>
HO! <whack>
Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister
wrote:
> Why?
>
> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
Who says we're scared? Why do theists have to make up lies about us in
order to sustain their own beliefs? Pretty fucking insecure lot,
aren't you? What are YOU scared of? The truth?
Thought so.
jem
<jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Why are so many atheists cowards who are afraid of a higher power?
Wrong for more than one reason, here's a start:
It's insane to fear what one thinks is nonexistant.
The nonbeliever has the courage to think that there is no being that
is responsible for us, guides us, created us etc, the nonbeliever does
not need a supernatural daddy/boss/gawd like a skeered little fundy,
after all, you fear your gawd, you delusionists say that shit all the
time.
Humankind is on its own, and we are not afraid to face that fact
square on, you are frickin quaking in your booties, pussy.
>You want to be your own god, don't you?
Are you projecting? Are you so stupid that you think an atheist is
competing with or wants to be something that he/she thinks doesn't
exist?
>
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:16:58 -0400, Christopher A.Lee
><ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:53:59 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
>><gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:12:09 +0000, Jerry Vanderpelt wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>>>
>>>How are we scared of something that doesn't exist?
>>
>>Why are so many theists such slanderous liars?
Practice.
jem
wrote:
fix the format before you post, idjit
Denis Loubet
>
> Why?
Because people act on their beliefs in the supernatural.
> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
Ask the victims of 9/11. Beliefs can kill.
--
Denis Loubet
dlo...@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
jem
<jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Because they reject everything supernatural from what I can tell.
>People reject things when they are afraid of them.
What is this bullshit about "fear of the lord"?
Explain how you don't reject gawd, you are in the group "people"
right? Fearing the lord is a popular spouting of fundies, tell me
"afraid" and "fear" are not related.
What makes you and all other believers exceptions to your statement?
>
>
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:56:37 -0000, Richo <m.richa...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Jul 28, 11:12 pm, Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>> Why?
>>>
>>
>>Why do you believe that atheists are afraid of the supernatural?
>>
>>> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>>
>>Let us first establish that they are - don't get ahead of yourself.
>>
>>Mark.
>>
Syd M.
wrote:
> Why are so many atheists cowards who are afraid of a higher power?
>
You are wrong, inquasition breath.
PDW
Syd M.
> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in messagenews:8OSdnVJrGtAX0zbb...@giganews.com...
>
> > On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:59:26 -0500, Jerry Vanderpelt wrote:
>
> >> You seem to be afraid of anything that might control the universe if
> >> that thing has an actual mind and will which is above yours.
>
>
> Oh, little Bilbo doesn't trust anyone but himself.
>
> It is so saaad.
Well, we have reasons not to trust religious bigots like you..
PDW
jem
<de_me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message news:8OSdnUxrGtCH0jbb...@giganews.com...
>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:02:06 -0500, Jerry Vanderpelt wrote:
>>
>>> Because they reject everything supernatural from what I can tell. People
>>> reject things when they are afraid of them.
>>
>> Do you believe in Santa Claus?
>
>I don't, but I also don't believe in Mark K. Bilbo.
>
>What's your point?
>
I find a difference, I have never seen santa post anything anywhere,
but I've seen tons from Mark.
Santa is a commonly known fantasy, but I have no evidence that there
is no Mark Bilbo.
I can also find a point from the poster you don't believe in: assuming
you don't believe in Santa, what is your reason for rejecting Santa?
Are you afraid of Santa? hmmmm, probably not.
DO you have reasonable grounds to think that Santa in fact does not
exist? hmmmmmm, maybe getting somewhere?
Have you ever seen believable evidence there is a real Santa?
jem
<de_me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>"raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message news:7njma3h9sd571h951...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:12:09 GMT, Jerry Vanderpelt
>> <jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Why?
>>
>> We aren't.
>
>JAWOHL, Mein Fuhrer!
>
>>>What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>>
>> What is it that makes you think anything "supernatural" exists?
>
>Your stupidity.
>
so proud of you for finding the keyboard, now if you can get a second
synapse to fire in unison with the first one(that found the keyboard
for you), try again when you work up to that ok?
les_on_usenet
<jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Why?
>
>What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
How daft can they get?
Just when you think you have seen it all some new stupidity
emerges.
What is it about alt.atheism that it attracts such silly comments
like this? My guess is fear. These twits are scared to death of
us.
Yes they may tell us this post is just a 'joke' to provoke us and
they may laugh at us jumping in with responces but it is the
underlying reason why they do this that matters here because
in reality they are deadly serious. Their laughter is the
nervous laughter of those in deep fear.
We do not need to do anything other than exist to be in their
worst nightmares. The shivering gnawing aching ever present
fear of losing their precious absolute faith which is
everything to them. They 'pray' night and day with all
their might with a vain hope all doubt is taken away by
some all loving god and all they get in return is silence
which they even interpret as a test of this faith.
The very fact that more and more people are no longer swallowing
their stupidity whole (or even in part) undermines that faith and
makes them think - a truly awfull thing to do as far as they are
concerned. Absolute faith requires no thought, no questioning
and no answers just a fervent desire to banish doubt. They probably
wish their brains were smaller so it would be harder to think and
easier to get into their precious Kingdom of heaven.
They must be deeply in despair knowing that as long as we are
around they cannot achieve their nirvana and truly believe.
They know that what they believe is only mere belief and could
easily be wrong and they cannot make this thought go away no
matter how hard they try. A thousand prayers, a thousand
self-infliced lashes, vigiils, love-ins, happy clappy sing songs, a
thousand, ten thousand penances, a lifetime locked in a monastery,
and yet they still have this nagging doubt that this god may not
actually exist after all and there is no heaven. The best they
can do is pretend to themselves but then they know they
are pretending.
Thus their desparate need to revile mock and demonise us into
hiding away so they are safer in their unchallenged delusion
without the need to think.
We are here, we are growing in numbers and we are here to
stay.
Les Hellawell
Greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
Les Hellawell
Greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
jem
<de_me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>"raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message news:20rma3d72od5rbj3c...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:55:14 +0200, "de_menezes"
>> <de_me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What an obnoxious prick you are.
>
>Oh, so in other words; you hate me, because I am right, riiight?
I'm not speaking for raven, but I suggest that hating people because
of an opposing opinion is the hallmark of a close-minded religionist,
like you perhaps?
>
>AND you hate me, because I take an unorthodox approach in criticizing
>atheism and atheists.
Actually, being a hostile jerk is rather normal. Insulting people is
just an expected thing from religious zealots. You would have been
comfortable with torturing people for gawd a few centuries ago, do you
feel like you missed the good old days?
>For presenting them as just another brainwashed
>bunch of scared little people who need something to hold on to. WHILE,
>on the other hand, those same atheists have no problem at all with lying
>in order to support their beliefs. In this case, atheism aka godlessness.
Wow, full tilt stupidity really is your "strong suit".
>
>In even 'otherer' (lol) words; I am not afraid to say it out loud that atheists
>are also lying sacks of shit, just like those religion ridden inbred morons are.
It appears you are including yourself, with the possible exception of
inbred? I'm trying to be nice.......
>
>In even 'othererer' words (lmao); I am treating atheists the same way atheists
>treat theists, and it seems to me you guys don't like that. Since, obviously, the
>'prickness' and 'obnoxiousness' is reserved for little atheists who got hurt when
>they were kids because they were made to believe that there is God who is
>going to smite them if they would touch their pee-pee.
only a matter of time before you'd bring up "pee-pee"
>
>> <plonk>
>
>OMG, a fu*king GEEK!
>
What a shock, somebody used a usenet term on usenet, you're really
grasping at anything to insult aren't you.
OMG, afraid to spell out FUCK! what a PUSSY!
>
Fun Tyme
> Face it, many of you are so scared of the
> unknown that I'm surprised many of you don't waddle around with poo-poo
> filled pant trousers, and jogging pants just stained with you-know-what.
>
> Greywolf
Some push-bike riding theists are using "bike clips" for this very reason ?
And I thought it was to prevent damage to the pants leg by contact with
the greasy chain !
jem
wrote:
>I'm not scared of the supernatural, I know it doesn't exist.
>
>Same goes for the Jub Jub Bird and the Frumious Bandersnatch.
DAMN!
Now my hunting trip has to be cancelled!
Uncle Vic
> Why?
>
> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>
Why do Christians invent the stupidest strawmen?
--
Uncle Vic
#2011
jem
My compliments sir, beautifully written.
Lucifer
> de_menezes wrote:
> > "raven1" <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote in messagenews:qpjma395qjga2ejdr...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:59:26 -0500, Jerry Vanderpelt
> >> <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> You seem to be afraid of anything that might control the universe if
> >>> that thing has an actual mind and will which is above yours.
> >> stockings if we are naughty.
>
> > So, you guys are evil?
>
> > Oh, oh. I get it. I must trust the good ol' atheist 'responsibility
> > for their actions' Sky Pixie to come in and handle that, riiight?
>
> I'll introduce you to a new word
> "if"
How very Laconic of you :p
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and General Purpose Igor
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of Doom
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(Top-posting fixed. You're welcome.)
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:53:59 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
> <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:12:09 +0000, Jerry Vanderpelt wrote:
>>
>>> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>> How are we scared of something that doesn't exist?
>
> You seem to be afraid of anything that might control the universe if
> that thing has an actual mind and will which is above yours.
>
We're afraid of the Master Cylinder?
LOL.
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#2011
Uncle Vic
> "raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message news:qpjma395qjga2ejdr...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:59:26 -0500, Jerry Vanderpelt
>>
>>> You seem to be afraid of anything that might control the universe if
>>> that thing has an actual mind and will which is above yours.
>> stockings if we are naughty.
>
> So, you guys are evil?
Hide your children.
>
> Oh, oh. I get it. I must trust the good ol' atheist 'responsibility
> for their actions' Sky Pixie to come in and handle that, riiight?
>
>
Whatever.
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Uncle Vic
#2011
Uncle Vic
> "raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message news:20rma3d72od5rbj3c...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:55:14 +0200, "de_menezes"
>> <de_me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What an obnoxious prick you are.
>
> Oh, so in other words; you hate me, because I am right, riiight?
>
> bunch of scared little people who need something to hold on to. WHILE,
> on the other hand, those same atheists have no problem at all with lying
> in order to support their beliefs. In this case, atheism aka godlessness.
>
> are also lying sacks of shit, just like those religion ridden inbred morons are.
>
> treat theists, and it seems to me you guys don't like that. Since, obviously, the
> 'prickness' and 'obnoxiousness' is reserved for little atheists who got hurt when
> they were kids because they were made to believe that there is God who is
> going to smite them if they would touch their pee-pee.
>
>
> OMG, a fu*king GEEK!
>
>
>
Wow, that was one of the more important posts I've seen this week. Now
show us your tits.
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Uncle Vic
#2011
Douglas Berry
> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
LOL! Dude, I've spent years working with ghost hunting groups. My
brother is deeply involved in the OTO, and I've read Crowley at his
urging. I've attended dozens of religious services for just as many
religions, including a Voodun ceremony.
I'm not scared of the supernatural. I want to understand it, the same
way I want to understand the dynamics of the Europan oceans. A lot of
it is bunk. But I look for the scientific explanations.
Why does science scare you?
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Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
Uncle Vic
> "William Wingstedt" <William_...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:46ab6840....@Newsgroups.Comcast.net...
>>>
>> to invent "supernatural?"
>
> While your precious science cannot and never will be able to explain
> every single little thing in the Universe (although they would love it if they
> could, because, then they could control it), there will always be supernatural
> things.
>
> Supernatural has always been with us, and always will be.
>
>
I see you have a new definition of supernatural, which apparently means
"something I dearly wish existed so I don't have to be afraid of reality".
You are right, though, Meningitis. Science may never be able to explain
everything in the universe. But that doesn't mean we should make up
answers to fill the gaps.
Douglas Berry
<de_me...@gmail.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
>"raven1" <quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote in message news:20rma3d72od5rbj3c...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:55:14 +0200, "de_menezes"
>> <de_me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What an obnoxious prick you are.
>
>Oh, so in other words; you hate me, because I am right, riiight?
Wrong.
>AND you hate me, because I take an unorthodox approach in criticizing
>atheism and atheists. For presenting them as just another brainwashed
>bunch of scared little people who need something to hold on to. WHILE,
>on the other hand, those same atheists have no problem at all with lying
>in order to support their beliefs. In this case, atheism aka godlessness.
No, we pity you. You aren't unorthodox, you are just insultiung and
rude.
>In even 'otherer' (lol) words; I am not afraid to say it out loud that atheists
>are also lying sacks of shit, just like those religion ridden inbred morons are.
Are you are the final arbiter of truth? You, sir, have been caught
lying.
>In even 'othererer' words (lmao); I am treating atheists the same way atheists
>treat theists, and it seems to me you guys don't like that. Since, obviously, the
>'prickness' and 'obnoxiousness' is reserved for little atheists who got hurt when
>they were kids because they were made to believe that there is God who is
>going to smite them if they would touch their pee-pee.
You have ceased making sense.
>> <plonk>
>
>OMG, a fu*king GEEK!
Damn right, and proud of it. Of course, I'm a trucker geek, and could
beat you into a fine paste if it ever came to that, but you being an
internet coward means that's not likely.
Douglas Berry
<X...@OPERAMAIL.COM> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
>,All terrorists are Muslims.
Really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
Try again, moron.
Fun Tyme
> Why?
>
> What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>
Show me something - *anything* - supernatural, and I absolutely
*promise* that I will be scared. This will of course not happen due to
the fact that I am non-delusional.
It's *you* sad theist types who show all the symptoms of fear.
Douglas Berry
<de_me...@gmail.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
>"William Wingstedt" <William_...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:46ab6840....@Newsgroups.Comcast.net...
>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:12:09 GMT, Jerry Vanderpelt
>>
>>>
>>>Why?
>>>
>>>What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>>>
>>
>> to invent "supernatural?"
>
>While your precious science cannot and never will be able to explain
>every single little thing in the Universe (although they would love it if they
>could, because, then they could control it), there will always be supernatural
>things.
Wrong. There will always be things we don't understand fully, but
that doesn't make them supernatural.
>Supernatural has always been with us, and always will be.
Yeah, like the Black Death. Obviously caused by witches. Or Jews. Or
God being really angry.
When science found that the Bubonic plague was caused by Yersinia
pestis, and that it was easily cured, the plague moved from a
supernatural event to a minor disease.
That's the wonder of science. We find answers. You prefer myths and
ignorance.
Douglas Berry
>> On Jul 28, 10:23 am, Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why are so many atheists cowards who are afraid of a higher power?
>>> You want to be your own god, don't you?
>>
>> higher powers.
>
>Do you believe in jail? Court? Police? Are you afraid of them?
Those are governmental agencies run by humans according to laws
written by humans. No supernatural power involved.
When my bike was stolen a few years back, a human police officer took
the report. No prayers, spells, mystical abilities, and my bike was
not recovered by magical means.
>> What scares me is the religious nuts who will kill others who do not
>> share their beliefs. Some are so crazy, they will blow themselves up
>> to kill others.
>>
>> That's what I'm afraid of.
>
>Fair enough, but there are a lot of other things you should be afraid of,
>and there a lot of other things you could engage yourself against, instead
>spending your precious time coming in here and 'making fun of theists'.
I spend maybe six hours a week on Usenet. The rest I spend working
for a living, time with my wife, reading, or watching my Giants.
Oh, I'm also active in local politics.
>But, I guess, it takes a bit more of them balls in order to fight against
>those 'other things', than to make fun of theists and their 'imaginary Sky
>Pixie'.
And your real name is? How many years of active duty? Ever worked for
a political campaign?
John Baker
<jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Why?
>
>What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
Can't be afraid of what isn't there, Skippy. Why do *you* need to lie
to reinforce your silly beliefs?
Jerry Vanderpelt
<de_me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>"William Wingstedt" <William_...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:46ab6840....@Newsgroups.Comcast.net...
>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:12:09 GMT, Jerry Vanderpelt
>> <jerryva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Why?
>>>
>>>What is it about the supernatural that scares atheists?
>>>
>>
>> What is it about natural that isn't good enough for you that you have
>> to invent "supernatural?"
>
>While your precious science cannot and never will be able to explain
>every single little thing in the Universe (although they would love it if they
>could, because, then they could control it), there will always be supernatural
>things.
>
>Supernatural has always been with us, and always will be.
Exactly, like the weather and volcanos erupting, they are beyond
natural control by us. Only God can control them.
Jerry Vanderpelt
They will burn in hell for killing innocent people!
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:28:22 -0700, Medusa <Medus...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>On Jul 28, 10:48 am, "de_menezes" <de_mene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > We're not scared of the supernatural. We're scared of religious
>> > douchebags who use *their* delusional beliefs about the supernatural to
>> > fly airplanes into buildings. Do you understand the difference, little
>> > fella?
>>
>> Hm, hm, airplanes into buildings? Wasn't that like NOT a religious
>> thing, but somekind of a payback? Punishment for all the bad things
>> US has done to the Middle East?
>
>Ah, duh. It was an extreme act of religious belief; their religious
>leaders instructed them to do this act. The murders were promised
>instant entry into paradise for committing this heinious crime.
>
>Now you are scaring me.
>
>Medusa
>
Jerry Vanderpelt
You'll be sorry when your time comes.
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:04:13 -0500, The Chief Instigator
<pat...@io.com> wrote:
>Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryva...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>>Because they reject everything supernatural from what I can tell.
>>People reject things when they are afraid of them.
>
>Maybe that's how you assume it to be, but you'd be better off not
>assuming that all of us share your defective reasoning abilities.
Jerry Vanderpelt
I don't have to bash gays, they'll get what they deserve when they
die and meet God.
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:04:44 -0400, Christopher A.Lee
<ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:53:26 -0700, Lucifer <wyrd...@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Jul 28, 4:23 pm, Jerry Vanderpelt <jerryvanderp...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>> Why are so many atheists cowards who are afraid of a higher power?
>>> You want to be your own god, don't you?
>>
>>You dare call me a coward?
>>
>>Shows how little you know, doesn't it. Why are you too scared to stand
>>on your own feet, facing the world as an equal. Why are you scared,
>>why do you need "the supernatural" to reassure you?
>
>That's both why and because he's a Christian - the two go together. It
>also makes him a cowardly, bullying psychopath who thinks it's fun to
>rub his shit in people's faces.
>
>A generation ago he would have been bashing gays. Two generations and
>he would have been burning crosses outside African American homes.
>Three and he would have been scrawling swastikas on the walls of
>Jewish homes.