Was Darwin Homosexual ?

[BroilJAB]

To be candid, it appears yes Darwin was homosexual.
And here is what I base this on. Darwin actually came
aboard ship (the Beagle) with the job description of
'Gentlemans Companion to the Captain' (Fitzroy). Then
for 5 solid years, Darwin shared intimate cabin space
exclusively with the young Capt Fitzroy. Neither of them,
during that time, was ever seen in the company of a
woman. While most all the other ship's crew would go
ashore and engage women, yet Darwin and the Captain
were inseparable. In all his journals and diaries and letters
Darwin never once speaks of dating or meeting or engaging
any woman --this in the vast space of a 5 year voyage.
Later on back in england, after the stint as 'Gentlemans
Companion', Darwin never once dated or saw or met any
women at all. Instead, he moved into an arranged marriage
with his sister --no, it was his own First Cousin. He married
his first cousin Emma Wedgwood solely to keep the vast
Wedgwood fortune in the family. His own mother also was
a Wedgwood. They had several children. The Captain also
married, but he committed suicide. And Darwin fell into a
lifelong languor and unspecified 'illness', himself. Remember
that in that time frame, that a man convicted of homosexuality
(as with Oscar Wilde) was put into prison. Likely, as ever more
Darwin notes and letters are released, more light will be thrown
and confirming Charles Darwin's homosexuality.

[Constance Knoring]

BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote in news:1f35b2df-9220-4318-
a60f-f4d...@b19g2000vbt.googlegroups.com:

stop progecting yore fucking shitfuck fantazies onto good poeple , you
are such a fucking asshat!!!!!!!! what the fuck is wrong with you are you
a depressed fucking closet homosexshewal in deniyal cuz the church fucked
you up to be a complete an dutter fucking loser??????? fuck you you
goof!!!

[Syd M.]

On Sep 28, 7:06 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> To be candid, it appears yes Darwin was homosexual.
>

And even if he was, it has NO effect of his theory, loser.

[Christopher A. Lee]

He married his childhood sweetheart and had ten children with her.

[harry k]

On Sep 28, 7:43 am, Christopher A. Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 07:22:56 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
>

> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Sep 28, 7:06 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> >> To be candid, it appears yes Darwin was homosexual.
>
> >And even if he was, it has NO effect of his theory, loser.
>
> He married his childhood sweetheart and had ten children with her.

Broil's just jealos as no woman has let him near enough to prticipate
in such things.

Harry K

[Ken]

They're trying to promote a sex tape of themselves with Larry Craig
and Ted Haggard

[Malcolm McMahon]

On Friday, 28 September 2012 12:06:30 UTC+1, BroilJAB wrote:
> To be candid, it appears yes Darwin was homosexual.
>
> And here is what I base this on. Darwin actually came
>
> aboard ship (the Beagle) with the job description of
>
> 'Gentlemans Companion to the Captain' (Fitzroy). Then
>
> for 5 solid years, Darwin shared intimate cabin space
>
> exclusively with the young Capt Fitzroy. Neither of them,
>
> during that time, was ever seen in the company of a
>
> woman. While most all the other ship's crew would go
>
> ashore and engage women, yet Darwin and the Captain
>
> were inseparable.

Thus you demonstrate that your understanding of 19th century culture, and that of the navy, is no better that your grasp of science.

A captain couldn't be seen whoring with the common sailors (and, in any case, may well have been a faithful husband). Darwin, apparently, had a sweetheart to think about.

And ships only have a very small number of officer's cabins.

Not that it matters. Darwin was a scientist, not a messiah. Actually he seems to have been a pretty devote Christian and have worried about the effects that the TOE would have on religion.

[BroilJAB]

For 5 solid years, Darwin shared intimate cabin space
exclusively with the young Capt Fitzroy. Neither of them,
during that time, was ever seen in the company of a

woman. Darwin never once dated or saw or met any

women at all. Instead, he moved into an arranged marriage

with his sister --no, it was his own First Cousin. Later
on, Darwin's 'Companion' Capt Fitzroy killed himself.

[Syd Maniac]

Repeating your lies will not make them true.

--
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[Syd Maniac]

Now, Chris, you know how bringing facts into the discussion is unfair...

;->

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:04:56 +0000 (UTC), Syd Maniac
<pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 07:22:56 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
>> <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sep 28, 7:06 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>>>> To be candid, it appears yes Darwin was homosexual.
>>>
>>>And even if he was, it has NO effect of his theory, loser.
>>
>> He married his childhood sweetheart and had ten children with her.
>
>Now, Chris, you know how bringing facts into the discussion is unfair...

Yeah, but the liar needs his lies correcting...

While she was his cousin, at that time cousin marriages were common
and nobody saw anything wrong with them.

In small communities everybody of the same class was related to
everybody else because nobody travelled.

And higher up the social scale, while people _did_ travel it wasn't
far, they still married within their own class so the end result was
still cousin marriages.


>
>;->

[MarkA]

On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:06:30 -0700, BroilJAB wrote:

> To be candid, it appears yes Darwin was homosexual.

If I were a student of Darwin's life and times, I might care. I'm not; I
don't.

Alan Turing most certainly WAS a homosexual. His development of methods
to break German encryption during World War II is one of the reasons that
German isn't the universal language today. In return for his heroic
service to his country, he was convicted of homosexuality, a criminal
offense in the UK at the time. He was later able to "cure" his
homosexuality by committing suicide at the age of 41.

--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock

[Malcolm McMahon]

BroilJAB wrote:

> For 5 solid years, Darwin shared intimate cabin space
> exclusively with the young Capt Fitzroy.

That's what you had to do, back then, to sail all over the world.

> Neither of them,
> during that time, was ever seen in the company of a
> woman.

So, you condem them for not going to whores?

I seriously doubt Darwin even knew what homosexuality was.

[linuxgal]

Sure, what with all the opportunities for dating the opposite sex on the
Beagle.


--
Because I am an 1337 h4x0r and don't want to use anything that you n00bs
might be able to understand.

[Mitchell Holman]

linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote in
news:H8KdnY2kwLE8hPvN...@giganews.com:

> Malcolm McMahon wrote:
>> BroilJAB wrote:
>>
>>> For 5 solid years, Darwin shared intimate cabin space
>>> exclusively with the young Capt Fitzroy.
>>
>> That's what you had to do, back then, to sail all over the world.
>>
>>> Neither of them,
>>> during that time, was ever seen in the company of a
>>> woman.
>>
>> So, you condem them for not going to whores?
>>
>> I seriously doubt Darwin even knew what homosexuality was.
>
> Sure, what with all the opportunities for dating the opposite sex on the
> Beagle.
>
>

"Rum, sodomy and the lash"

[Ken]

On Sep 28, 12:56 pm, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:06:30 -0700, BroilJAB wrote:
> > To be candid, it appears yes Darwin was homosexual.
>
> If I were a student of Darwin's life and times, I might care.  I'm not; I
> don't.
>
> Alan Turing most certainly WAS a homosexual.

> MarkA

And so was LiarBoi's mommy, J. Edgar Hoover

[Uirgil]

In article
<22057793-b88d-410a...@c19g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,

BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> For 5 solid years, Darwin shared intimate cabin space
> exclusively with the young Capt Fitzroy.

Most of the crewmen on the HMS Beagle were living in much more intimate
contact with their fellows than Darwin and Fitzroy.

So if mere prolonged propinquity produced homosexuality, Most navies and
armies would be predominantly homosexual.

But the thriving of prostitution near military and naval bases disproves
that.

So that, once again, Liarboi Broiljab proves himself totally
incompetent, even in the contructing of creationist lies.

[Syd M.]

On Sep 28, 3:13 pm, Christopher A. Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:04:56 +0000 (UTC), Syd Maniac
>

> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>
> >> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 07:22:56 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
> >> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On Sep 28, 7:06 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> >>>> To be candid, it appears yes Darwin was homosexual.
>
> >>>And even if he was, it has NO effect of his theory, loser.
>
> >> He married his childhood sweetheart and had ten children with her.
>
> >Now, Chris, you know how bringing facts into the discussion is unfair...
>
> Yeah, but the liar needs his lies correcting...
>

Oh, your no fun anymore.
;->

> While she was his cousin, at that time cousin marriages were common
> and nobody saw anything wrong with them.
>
> In small communities everybody of the same class was related to
> everybody else because nobody travelled.
>
> And higher up the social scale, while people _did_ travel it wasn't
> far, they still married within their own class so the end result was
> still cousin marriages.
>

Totally.
Different cultures, different times, all these kind of things mean
nothing to a typical fundy.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <k44sb4$ph0$1...@news.albasani.net>,

Syd Maniac <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> BroilJAB wrote:
>
> > For 5 solid years, Darwin shared intimate cabin space
> > exclusively with the young Capt Fitzroy. Neither of them,
> > during that time, was ever seen in the company of a
> > woman. Darwin never once dated or saw or met any
> > women at all. Instead, he moved into an arranged marriage
> > with his sister --no, it was his own First Cousin. Later
> > on, Darwin's 'Companion' Capt Fitzroy killed himself.
>
> Repeating your lies will not make them true.

I continue to wonder what difference it would make even if it were true.

--
JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[Uirgil]

In article
<1f35b2df-9220-4318...@b19g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:


Probably still is!

[Syd Maniac]

I have tried to correct the troll numerous times, but, as usual, it just
doesn't take.

[linuxgal]

Mitchell Holman wrote:

>
> "Rum, sodomy and the lash"

All up side for gay masochistic alcoholics, and no down side.

[BroilJAB]

www.broilJAB.archives.org/

[Devils Advocaat]

On Sep 28, 3:43 pm, Christopher A. Lee <chrislee95...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 07:22:56 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
>

> <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Sep 28, 7:06 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> >> To be candid, it appears yes Darwin was homosexual.
>
> >And even if he was, it has NO effect of his theory, loser.
>
> He married his childhood sweetheart and had ten children with her.

And truth be known, she was his cousin.

But that was a common practise of the day.

And the vast majority of their children lived to a ripe old age.

Those that passed away very young died of what were incurable diseases
back then.

[BroilJAB]

In his 20s, Darwin's 'partner' was Fitzroy.
After Darwin later entered an arranged marriage,
Fitzroy killed himself.

[hypatiab7]

You were doing fine until you got to the devout Christian part. Actually, Darwin
became a deist during that voyage. Later on, after the death of a beloved child,
Darwin became an agnostic (he mentioned this in one of his books and a son who
organized his letters also backed this up with examples from his writings). He
wasn't worried about how the Theory of Evolution would affect religion. He was
worried about how the religious fanatics would react to the idea of evolution.

[Jo Stein]

On 29.09.2012 10:34, BroilJAB wrote:
> In his 20s, Darwin's 'partner' was Fitzroy. After Darwin later
> entered an arranged marriage, Fitzroy killed himself.
>

Now you can learn a lot about science by studying
Charles Darwin's Papers Online:
http://darwin-online.org.uk/manuscripts_announcement.html
> For decades available only to scholars at Cambridge University
> Library, the private papers of Charles Darwin, one of the most
> influential scientists in history, can now be seen by anyone online
> and free of charge. This is the largest ever publication of Darwin
> papers and manuscripts, totalling about 20,000 items in over 100,000
> electronic images.
>
> This vast and varied collection of papers includes the first draft of
> his theory of evolution, notes from the voyage of the Beagle and Emma
> Darwin's recipe book.
>
> We are extremely grateful for the kind permission of Cambridge
> University Library to reproduce these online. (See the Cambridge
> University Library Order Form for Digital Images.) They are presented
> in the same sequence as the original catalogue, which was divided
> mostly into bound volumes, each with a library classmark.
>
> History of the material: The Darwin family and the Pilgrim Trust
> presented a magnificent collection of Darwin's papers to Cambridge
> University Library in 1942; they were delivered after the war. As the
> 1960 Handlist describes:
>
> They were in parcels each containing small packets of manuscript
> wrapped in tissue paper on which the subjects had been noted in
> Darwin's hand. They were presumably just as Darwin left them, and
> accordingly this arrangement was preserved when they were bound, the
> volumes now representing as closely as possible Charles Darwin's
> papers in the order in which he left them. Beside the original papers
> there were copies of a large number of letters to Darwin, collections
> of press-cuttings, etc.
>
> These online images are scans from copies
> of early black and white microfilms produced by the Cambridge
> University Library Imaging Service, mostly in the 1990s. For online
> publication now a slight colour tint has been added to many and the
> brightness and contrast have been digitally enhanced. (To compare a
> document with and without the colour tint click here and here.)
> Please note that many of the Darwin papers have been re-catalogued
> since microfilming in the 1990s. In some cases items have been
> re-ordered or moved to other volumes in the archive. In such cases
> the electronic images may not match the current arrangement of the
> papers in Cambridge University Library.
>
> The immense value of this vast collection of material far exceeds the
> disadvantages of the occasional unreadable image and the lack of full
> colour. Several million pounds and years of production would be
> needed to produce colour digital images of the Darwin Archive.
> Hopefully this will eventually be achieved. In the meantime, most of
> the world's finest collection of Darwin's original manuscripts is now
> available for all to read, study and explore online and free of
> charge.
>
> For an overview of Darwin's papers click here.
--
jo
"A man may imagine things that are false,
but he can only understand things that are true,
for if the things be false, the apprehension of
them is not understanding." -- Isaac Newton

[Peter Webb]

"BroilJAB" <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message
news:40f6187a-52a0-4b52...@o8g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...

> In his 20s, Darwin's 'partner' was Fitzroy.
> After Darwin later entered an arranged marriage,
> Fitzroy killed himself.

Seems pretty thin evidence that he was a homosexual, and there seems to be
no other supporting evidence.

Interestingly, Isaac Newton is widely believed to have died a virgin. Read
into that what you will.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <efa158a3-be2f-4857...@googlegroups.com>,

What he WAS worried about was the effect it would have on his beloved
wife, who still was a devout Christian. He didn't want to hurt her.

[Jeanne Douglas]

We should be keeping a log of when liarboi breaks out his stories. See
if there's an actual pattern to it or if it's actually random. Hmmm,
just need to keep track of the date each one appears again.

[Jo Stein]

Fitzroy may have been a great help for Darwin who
took the Bible pretty seriously at
> that point, while Fitzroy actually entertained doubts about its
> accuracy.
Later Fitzroy became orthodox religious and killed himself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_FitzRoy
> FitzRoy had evidently undergone a religious conversion.[6] He was
> clearly dissociating himself from the new ideas of Charles Lyell
> which he had accepted during the voyage, and from Darwin's account
> which embraced these ideas, instead asserting a new commitment under
> the influence of his very religious wife to the doctrine of the
> established Church of England.

http://www.strangescience.net/darwin.htm
> FitzRoy had a good reason to select his co-traveler with care. The
> real role that person had to fill was saving him from suicidal
> despair. The need for such a lifeline wasn't as melodramatic as it
> might sound. A previous captain of the ship had killed himself at
> Tierra del Fuego, depressed by worthless charts, a sickly crew, and
> relentlessly miserable weather. And despite his own privileged
> background, FitzRoy feared he might do what some of his relatives
> had done; the family had a history of suicide. He arrived home
> intact, but many years after the voyage, FitzRoy did indeed take his
> own life.
>
> Many descriptions of Darwin and FitzRoy have portrayed FitzRoy as
> pious and disapproving of the unorthodox young Darwin, but that
> really wasn't the case. Darwin took the Bible pretty seriously at
> that point, while Fitzroy actually entertained doubts about its
> accuracy. The captain also presented Darwin with the first volume of
> Lyell's Principles of Geology. Early on, the biggest obstacle to the
> young men's friendship appeared to be Darwin's nose. A fervent
> phrenologist, FitzRoy suspected that Darwin's nose revealed a
> constitution too weak for an extended voyage, but Darwin later
> recalled that he persuaded FitzRoy that "my nose had spoken
> falsely," and the captain relented.
>
> The noise from the insects is so loud, that it may be heard even in
> a vessel anchored several hundred yards from the shore; yet within
> the recesses of the forest a universal silence appears to reign. To
> a person fond of natural history, such a day as this, brings with it
> a deeper pleasure than he ever can hope again to experience.
>
> So wrote the happy young Darwin after coming ashore in South
> America. Part of his ecstasy might have been from getting his queasy
> stomach off a rocking boat.
>
> Darwin enjoyed considerable favoritism under FitzRoy's command. The
> ship's senior surgeon, Robert McCormick, was supposed to serve as
> the official naturalist, but Darwin slowly edged him out. On one
> occasion, FitzRoy sent a couple small boats to inspect a tiny
> island. Darwin got to ride in the first boat with FitzRoy and see all
> the delicious sights. Arriving in the second boat, McCormick only got
> an order to catch some fish for dinner. Even worse, Darwin started
> assembling his own collection of natural history specimens and,
> unlike the surgeon, he could retain ownership of what he collected
> because he was wealthy enough to pay his own way on the ship. (And
> Darwin collected with relish, bringing back more than 1,500 bottled
> specimens and nearly 4,000 dried specimens.) McCormick eventually
> quit the Beagle in disgust. It wasn't the only time Darwin enjoyed
> preferential treatment; some of his fellow students at Cambridge had
> resented the favor bestowed on him by Henslow, but Darwin's
> enthusiasm likely matched the favorable treatment.
>
> Although Darwin once described the captain as "affected with strong
> peculiarities of temper," the two remained good friends throughout
> the voyage and for years afterwards. The worst argument Darwin and
> FitzRoy ever did have was over slavery. Darwin was a passionate
> abolitionist. FitzRoy, at the time of the voyage, was not. To
> tolerate sharing such close quarters, the two later avoided
> discussing the topic. It wasn't until FitzRoy got orthodox religion
> that he and Darwin had a falling out. The relationship also soured
> over FitzRoy's feeling that Darwin gave him too little credit for
> the Beagle trip when the two were publishing their memoirs of the
> voyage.
--
jo
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you
would have good people doing good things and evil people
doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things,
that takes religion. ”— Steven Weinberg

[Budikka666]

On Sep 28, 6:06 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> To be candid,

To be a necrophiliac, you mean, paying obsessive-compulsive interest
to dead people. What's up with that? Why dio you worship Darwin so
devoutly?

> it appears yes Darwin was homosexual.

No, it doesn't. And even if he was, what the hell difference does
that make to anything? Why are you so jealous that he had a life and
a career and was a fine, respected person during his lifetime, and
that he left his indelible mark upon the world, turning biology into a
solid science? Is it that you know that unlike Charles Darwin, you
will be completely forgotten as soon as you quit spamming the
newsgroups, and that even your own family will breath a sigh of relief
that you're no longer a daily embarrassment to them?

> And here is what I base this on.

You base it on jealousy and a mental disorder for which your nursing
home quite obviously isn't doing anywhere near enough.

> Darwin actually came

Indeed he did - at least ten times as his offspring illustrated
admirably. Whassup LiarBoi? You couldn't generate even one
offspring? Is that what this is all about? You still shrinking away
at the passion like a limp Peter?

> aboard ship (the Beagle) with the job description of
> 'Gentlemans Companion to the Captain' (Fitzroy).

Of which you quite obviously don't have the first idea, do you?
Aren't you thoroughly ashamed of your appalling ignorance? Of your
tightly-sheltered and oppressively boxed-in view of the world that
fills you with such a hypocritical hatred and such an obsessive
interest in the long-dead?

Clearly you need medical attention, but your condition is quite
understandable. It's not at all a surprise that you would feel this
way, dumped into a old folks home as you were, abandoned by your
family, and left to rot. It's pitiful, but it's no excuse to vent
your spleen in dishonoring decent people and bringing even more shame
upon Christianity than it has already merited.

You're clearly too stupid to understand the massive damage you're
doing to your own cause. You're not doing any damage at all to the
Theory of Evolution, which will become ever more pervasive even as you
are *long* forgotten.

> for 5 solid years, Darwin shared intimate cabin space
> exclusively with the young Capt Fitzroy.

No, he didn't. Fitzroy was a Republican (or the Birtish equivalent of
one). So, numbnuts, you're trashing one of your own, you abysmal
dimwit! It was Fitzroy who *gave* Darwin a copy of the first volume
of Charles Lyell's 'Principles of Geology' which was of immense value
in helping Darwin to formulate his theory! lol!

> Neither of them,
> during that time, was ever seen in the company of a
> woman.

Since women weren't allowed on ships back then for this kind of
voyage, this is entirely *un*surprising to anyone except for a
shameful ignoramus like you! lol!

> While most all the other ship's crew would go
> ashore and engage women

And you have this from where? It's obviously escaped your laughable
excuse for a brain that Darwin and Fitzroy were not sailors in the
same sense that the crew were. Fitzroy was an aristocrat. Darwin was
a gentleman. Victorian gentlemen did not disport themselves in the
same fashion in which the press-gangees did, you pathetic excuse for a
human being.

>, yet Darwin and the Captain
> were inseparable.

Lie!

> In all his journals and diaries and letters
> Darwin never once speaks of dating or meeting or engaging
> any woman --this in the vast space of a 5 year voyage.

Why is this not a surprise on a five year geographical expedition on a
ship populated, as was the custom, entirely by men visiting places
which were hardly populated at all, and certainly not populated by
Victorian women?

> Later on back in england, after the stint as 'Gentlemans
> Companion', Darwin never once dated or saw or met any
> women at all.

Lie. You really are as ignorant as you look, aren't you?

In his youth, Charles Darwin was a doctor's assistant to his father,
working with his older brother helping the poor of Shropshire. Yes,
he was doing *precisely* what your fake Jesus told people to do, and
here you are, hypcoritically trashing him, as do all you Christian
hypocrite creationists. You are all of you scum.

Around that time, Darwin learned taxidermy from John Edmonstone, a
freed black slave who became his friend. There goes your "Darwin was
a racist" LIE, you worthless piece of hateful creationist trash.

> Instead, he moved into an arranged marriage
> with his sister --no, it was his own First Cousin.

As was customary back then. Emma Wedgwood was a Chrsitian who was
nursing her aunt back to health when Darwin joined them because *he*
as becoming sick from over-work. Wedgewood is described as charming,
intelligent, and cultured, everythign you are not, and she was doing
precisely what your fake Jesus told her to do - help others.

How are *you* helping others LiarBoi, by spreading absurd and
transparent LIES like these?

> his first cousin Emma Wedgwood solely to keep the vast
> Wedgwood fortune in the family.

Republicans all. And why are you not getting on the case of your
creationist friend Thomas Malthus? He also married his cousin as did
many other creationists of the Victorian era.

Adam married his own clone. Cain married one of his sisters. How
come you don't get on their cases? Is it because you know as well as
we do that Adam & Eve are purest fiction?

> His own mother also was
> a Wedgwood. They had several children

Darwin had children with his own mother? You're seriously losing it,
Loonbag. Either that, or you need a good lesson in grammar.

But why don't you and I formally debate your charges against Charles
Darwin right here in this thread? Or you can RUN AWAY from me as you
have done over one hundred times before:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.talk.creationism/msg/c69a90d07c0a4d79

Your current demonstration of extreme fleeing is taking place in the
thread below, but I'd be happy to move it here to get it updated:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e8b50cdfc13197e8?scoring=d&

Budikka

[BroilJAB]

For 5 solid years, Darwin shared intimate cabin space

exclusively with the young Capt Fitzroy. Neither of them,

during that time, was ever seen in the company of a

woman. While most all the other ship's crew would go
ashore and engage women, yet Darwin and the Captain
were inseparable. Darwin later had an arranged marriage.
His 'lover' Fitzroy then committed suicide.

[Syd M.]

Stop lying.
And even if it was true, it still does not in any way invalidate his
theory.
You must be getting desperate.

[Syd M.]

Judging from today's fanatics and their lies, he was correct to worry.

[linuxgal]

This of course contradicted his theory of the survival of the Fitz.

[Budikka666]

On Sep 28, 6:06 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> To be candid,

To be a necrophiliac, you mean, paying obsessive-compulsive interest
to dead people. What's up with that? Why dio you worship Darwin so
devoutly?

> it appears yes Darwin was homosexual.

No, it doesn't. And even if he was, what the hell difference does
that make to anything? Why are you so jealous that he had a life and
a career and was a fine, respected person during his lifetime, and
that he left his indelible mark upon the world, turning biology into a
solid science? Is it that you know that unlike Charles Darwin, you
will be completely forgotten as soon as you quit spamming the
newsgroups, and that even your own family will breath a sigh of relief
that you're no longer a daily embarrassment to them?

> And here is what I base this on.

You base it on jealousy and a mental disorder for which your nursing
home quite obviously isn't doing anywhere near enough.

> Darwin actually came

Indeed he did - at least ten times as his offspring illustrated
admirably. Whassup LiarBoi? You couldn't generate even one
offspring? Is that what this is all about? You still shrinking away
at the passion like a limp Peter?

> aboard ship (the Beagle) with the job description of
> 'Gentlemans Companion to the Captain' (Fitzroy).

Of which you quite obviously don't have the first idea, do you?
Aren't you thoroughly ashamed of your appalling ignorance? Of your
tightly-sheltered and oppressively boxed-in view of the world that
fills you with such a hypocritical hatred and such an obsessive
interest in the long-dead?

Clearly you need medical attention, but your condition is quite
understandable. It's not at all a surprise that you would feel this
way, dumped into a old folks home as you were, abandoned by your
family, and left to rot. It's pitiful, but it's no excuse to vent
your spleen in dishonoring decent people and bringing even more shame
upon Christianity than it has already merited.

You're clearly too stupid to understand the massive damage you're
doing to your own cause. You're not doing any damage at all to the
Theory of Evolution, which will become ever more pervasive even as you
are *long* forgotten.

> for 5 solid years, Darwin shared intimate cabin space

> exclusively with the young Capt Fitzroy.

No, he didn't. Fitzroy was a Republican (or the Birtish equivalent of
one). So, numbnuts, you're trashing one of your own, you abysmal
dimwit! It was Fitzroy who *gave* Darwin a copy of the first volume
of Charles Lyell's 'Principles of Geology' which was of immense value
in helping Darwin to formulate his theory! lol!

> Neither of them,
> during that time, was ever seen in the company of a
> woman.

Since women weren't allowed on ships back then for this kind of
voyage, this is entirely *un*surprising to anyone except for a
shameful ignoramus like you! lol!

> While most all the other ship's crew would go

> ashore and engage women

And you have this from where? It's obviously escaped your laughable
excuse for a brain that Darwin and Fitzroy were not sailors in the
same sense that the crew were. Fitzroy was an aristocrat. Darwin was
a gentleman. Victorian gentlemen did not disport themselves in the
same fashion in which the press-gangees did, you pathetic excuse for a
human being.

>, yet Darwin and the Captain
> were inseparable.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/e8b50cdf...

Budikka

[BroilJAB]

For 5 solid years, Darwin shared intimate cabin space
exclusively with the young Capt Fitzroy. Neither of them,
during that time, was ever seen in the company of a
woman. While most all the other ship's crew would go
ashore and engage women, yet Darwin and the Captain

were inseparable. Darwin later had an arranged marriage.
His 'lover' Fitzroy then committed suicide.

www.conservapedia.com/

[Joe Bruno]

On Friday, September 28, 2012 4:06:30 AM UTC-7, BroilJAB wrote:
> To be candid, it appears yes Darwin was homosexual. And here is what I base this on. Darwin actually came aboard ship (the Beagle) with the job description of 'Gentlemans Companion to the Captain' (Fitzroy). Then for 5 solid years, Darwin shared intimate cabin space exclusively with the young Capt Fitzroy. Neither of them, during that time, was ever seen in the company of a woman. While most all the other ship's crew would go ashore and engage women, yet Darwin and the Captain were inseparable. In all his journals and diaries and letters Darwin never once speaks of dating or meeting or engaging any woman --this in the vast space of a 5 year voyage. Later on back in england, after the stint as 'Gentlemans Companion', Darwin never once dated or saw or met any women at all. Instead, he moved into an arranged marriage with his sister --no, it was his own First Cousin. He married his first cousin Emma Wedgwood solely to keep the vast Wedgwood fortune in the family. His own mother also was a Wedgwood. They had several children. The Captain also married, but he committed suicide. And Darwin fell into a lifelong languor and unspecified 'illness', himself. Remember that in that time frame, that a man convicted of homosexuality (as with Oscar Wilde) was put into prison. Likely, as ever more Darwin notes and letters are released, more light will be thrown and confirming Charles Darwin's homosexuality.

Actually, in one point of his life, he was a clergyman.

[Budikka666]

I guess it's "Run Awayyyyyy" yet again for BrailJOB the LiarBoi.

Kepe running you Chickenshit for Christt™, it's what you do best,
after all.

Budikka

[BroilJAB]

He adored his 'companion', Darwin and the Captain

were inseparable. In all his journals and diaries and letters
Darwin never once speaks of dating or meeting or engaging
any woman --this in the vast space of a 5 year voyage.

After Darwin had an arranged marriage to his Aunt Emma,
'his treasured companion' Fitzroy committed suicide.

[Freedom Man]

"BroilJAB" <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote in message

news:845548cb-072c-4e3e...@r10g2000vby.googlegroups.com...

Why are you religious LOONS so homophobic?

See what RELIGION does to peoples' minds?

Adults no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy - but they still torture and
kill each other over ancient myths and superstitions.

"We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion of love
and gentleness; how many bodies were burned alive with the genuinely kind
intention of saving souls from the eternal fire of hell." --- Karl Popper

"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many
people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion."
--- Robert M. Pirsig

Either God wants to abolish evil and cannot, or he can but does not want to.
If he wants to but cannot he is impotent. If he can but does not want to, he
is wicked. If he neither can nor wants to, then he is both powerless and
wicked.
--- Epicurus, Greek philosopher, circa 300 B.C.

"Act of God" disasters like the Japanese earthquake expose the myth. Either
God can do nothing to stop catastrophes like this, or he doesn't care to, or
he doesn't exist. He is thus either impotent, evil, or imaginary.
--- CNN Belief Blog, 3-20-11

"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and

evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that
takes religion."

--- Steven Weinberg, quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false,
and by rulers as useful."
--- Seneca the Younger (4? BC - 65 AD)

"Religion once ruled the world. It was called the Dark Ages." --- Ruth
Green.

"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings." ---
Victor Stenger.

"I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose." ---
Clarence Darrow

"As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of
religion." --- Butterfly McQueen

"Religion was invented when the first con-man met the first fool." - Mark
Twain

"Faith is believing what you know ain't so." --- Mark Twain

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in
all fiction." --- Richard Dawkins

"Cult today, religion tomorrow."

The Freedom From Religion Foundation: http://ffrf.org/
The Secular Coalition for America: www.secular.org
Secular Student Alliance: www.secularstudents.org
www.infidels.org
www.humaniststudies.org
www.atheistalliance.org
www.americanhumanist.org

[One Eyed Jerry]

So what if he was? Doesn't affect me in the least if he was gay or he
wasn't. I don't give a crap.

[BroilJAB]

As I began to review the bizarre history of
Charles Darwin, I was much struck: this man
was a Queer, no doubt of it. --W.Chambers

[Budikka666]

Still running, BrailJOB the LiarBoi?

Keep running you Chickenshit for Christ™, it's what you do best, after
all. And it proves that even you admit that there is no omnipotent
creator to help you.

Budikka

[Budikka666]