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vtand...@gmail.com

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Aug 21, 2017, 10:57:42 AM8/21/17
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On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 7:17:45 AM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 08:02:30 -0500, "Jeanne Douglas"
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgoogle.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >On 20 Aug 2017 05:43 PM ,Cloud Hobbit <youngbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 10:00:52 AM UTC-7, vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 6:30:13 PM UTC-7, Vincent Maycock wrote:
> >> > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 17:30:03 -0700 (PDT), vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 5:00:54 PM UTC-7, Vincent Maycock wrote:
> >> > > >> On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 15:16:45 -0700 (PDT), Joe Bruno
> >> > > >> <arthur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> >On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 1:09:05 PM UTC-7, Vincent Maycock wrote:
> >> > > >> >> On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 12:36:24 -0700 (PDT), vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> >On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 12:30:56 PM UTC-7, Vincent Maycock wrote:
> >> > > >> >> >> On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 12:13:07 -0700 (PDT), vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > >> >> >>
> >> > > >> >> >> >On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 12:01:55 PM UTC-7, Vincent Maycock wrote:
> >> > > >> >> >> >> On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 11:16:00 -0700 (PDT), vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > > >> >> >> >>
> >> > > >> >> >> >> >On Friday, August 18, 2017 at 11:02:28 AM UTC-7, Vincent Maycock wrote:
- show quoted text -


This is a hot one-Chrissy giving a lecture on manners.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

John Locke

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Aug 21, 2017, 11:50:11 AM8/21/17
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 07:57:39 -0700 (PDT), vtand...@gmail.com wrote:

> Anybody Need a Laugh?
>
...no Arty, you've given us enough to last a lifetime !

vtand...@gmail.com

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Aug 21, 2017, 12:03:38 PM8/21/17
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They don't need me for that-they have you.
I cannot remember any of your posts that actually inform us about anything.
All ya do is make wild claims that betray your ignorance.

Cloud Hobbit

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Aug 21, 2017, 6:15:53 PM8/21/17
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Like you have done Arty Joe every time you told people to call your school and ask for your records?

You forgot that would be against federal law.

Maybe you did flunk out.
Nothing you say about yourself has been shown to be true.

vtand...@gmail.com

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Aug 21, 2017, 6:52:02 PM8/21/17
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On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 3:15:53 PM UTC-7, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> Like you have done Arty Joe every time you told people to call your school and ask for your records?
>
> You forgot that would be against federal law.

Show us that law. You mean that all my civilian employers broke the law when they called to verify my resume? NAH! You can't be that stupid. NOBODY IS THAT STUPID.
>
> Maybe you did flunk out.
> Nothing you say about yourself has been shown to be true.

You mean you chickenshit atheists refused all my advice on how to verify it.

That's why I refuse to make any more attempts to prove anything about myself.
You sleazy motherfuckers don't want the truth. It's a waste of time to
help you scumbags with anything.


Cloud Hobbit

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Aug 21, 2017, 7:38:58 PM8/21/17
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You can not get that information it is a violation of federal law.

https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/focus/daca-education-records.pdf

You refuse to try and prove anything about yourself because you don't want to get in more lies.

You could always post redacted copies of anything that supports your claims.
But you never have and never will, because you know what a liar you are and what a liar we have discovered you to be.

vtand...@gmail.com

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Aug 21, 2017, 8:32:44 PM8/21/17
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You just told an obvious LIE. From the link:


Who can access education records?
7. Do I have a legal right to view my education records?
If you are under the age of 18, only your parent or guardian has the legal “right” under FERPA
to inspect and review your education records. If you are age 18 or over or enrolled in a
postsecondary institution (an “eligible student”), then you have a right to view your own
education records. Under FERPA, a parent includes any natural parent, guardian, or individual
(such as a foster parent) acting as parent in the absence of a parent or guardian. The right to
view the education records only covers a right to view the information in the student’s
education records that is about that student, and not information in the records that is about
any other student.
8. If I cannot understand English, or my parent does not understand English, do my parent(s) and I
have a right to get help from the school to understand the education records?
Yes. Federal civil rights laws require school districts to communicate effectively with students
and parents who do not understand English. This means that the school must provide
meaningful access to the information in the students’ education records. For example, if you
or your parent requests to view your education records, and you or your parent cannot
understand English, the school can provide meaningful assistance to you or your parent, by
providing a qualified interpreter or written translation, to help you understand the information in
the education records in a language you can understand.
9. Can anyone other than me or my parent view my education records?


Yes. Under FERPA, a school or school district may disclose information from your education
records without your consent to specific entities, such as a State education office, or for
specific purposes, such as to comply with a court order. You may also ask someone else to
view your education records for you (see Question 10).


10.Can I ask someone else to view my education records for me?
Yes. Under FERPA, if your parent or you (if you are an “eligible student” (see Question 7)
would like someone else to view your education records, then your parent or you (if you are an
39759.1
eligible student) should provide written consent to the school or school district permitting that
person to access the record(s). Written consent includes all of the following:
 Signature of the eligible student or the parent of a non-eligible student consenting
to allow another person to see the education record(s);
 Date that the consent was signed;
 Name of the person(s) who may see the education record(s);
 Description of the education record(s) that may be disclosed (or the information
from the education record(s) that may be disclosed); and
 The reason for allowing the person or party to see the education record(s).
If you are a student covered by the IDEA, your parent or you (if you have reached the age of
majority in your State (generally over 18) and parental rights have transferred to you), does not
need to provide consent when asking someone else to view your education records. Instead,
under the IDEA a representative of your parent or you (if parental rights have transferred to
you) has a right to inspect and review your education records, and the school cannot require
written consent from your parent or you before granting this request.
11.If I give consent for someone else to view my education records, does the school have to
provide that person access to my education records?
It depends. Under FERPA, the school may choose to provide that person access based on
the consent you provided, but the school is not required to do so. Under the IDEA, however, if
you are a student covered by the IDEA, the school must provide a representative of your
parent (or you, if parental rights have transferred to you (see Question 10)) access to inspect
and review your education records, even without requiring your parent’s written consent (or
your consent, if parental rights have transferred to you).

hypatiab7

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Aug 21, 2017, 8:35:28 PM8/21/17
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Complain, complain, complain and kvetch. That's all you ever do. If you're
so unhappy here, feel free to leave. Youserve no purpose even to yourself.



vtand...@gmail.com

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Aug 21, 2017, 8:36:14 PM8/21/17
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HERE IT IS AGAIN:

Under FERPA, a school or school district may disclose information from your education
records without your consent to specific entities, such as a State education office, or for
specific purposes, such as to comply with a court order. You may also ask someone else to
view your education records for you (see Question 10).

See that, asshole: It says "without your consent." That's why my civilian employers did not ask for my permission. They didn't need it.

Yap Honghor

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Aug 21, 2017, 8:43:12 PM8/21/17
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You really can't read, Mad Joe.
You pick a phrase to state your own projection...."without your consent" is to comply with court order!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your language standard is worse than a 1st grader.

hypatiab7

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Aug 21, 2017, 8:44:28 PM8/21/17
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On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 6:52:02 PM UTC-4, vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 3:15:53 PM UTC-7, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > Like you have done Arty Joe every time you told people to call your school and ask for your records?
> >
> > You forgot that would be against federal law.
>
> Show us that law. You mean that all my civilian employers broke the law when they called to verify my resume? NAH! You can't be that stupid. NOBODY IS THAT STUPID.
> >
> > Maybe you did flunk out.
> > Nothing you say about yourself has been shown to be true.
>
> You mean you chickenshit atheists refused all my advice on how to verify it.

No one believes that you would write a letter giving permission to release information. We know how undependable you are.

>
> That's why I refuse to make any more attempts to prove anything about myself.
> You sleazy motherfuckers don't want the truth. It's a waste of time to
> help you scumbags with anything.

You never did mean it. You just proved it.

You sound like Jahnu. Bitch, moan and whine.


Smiler

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Aug 21, 2017, 8:44:36 PM8/21/17
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:38:55 -0700, Cloud Hobbit wrote:

> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 3:52:02 PM UTC-7, vtand...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 3:15:53 PM UTC-7, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
>> > Like you have done Arty Joe every time you told people to call your
>> > school and ask for your records?
>> >
>> > You forgot that would be against federal law.
>>
>> Show us that law. You mean that all my civilian employers broke the law
>> when they called to verify my resume? NAH! You can't be that stupid.
>> NOBODY IS THAT STUPID.
>> >
>> > Maybe you did flunk out.
>> > Nothing you say about yourself has been shown to be true.
>>
>> You mean you chickenshit atheists refused all my advice on how to
>> verify it.
>>
>> That's why I refuse to make any more attempts to prove anything about
>> myself.
>> You sleazy motherfuckers don't want the truth. It's a waste of time to
>> help you scumbags with anything.
>
> You can not get that information it is a violation of federal law.
>
> https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/focus/daca-education-records.pdf
>
> You refuse to try and prove anything about yourself because you don't
> want to get in more lies.

Telling lies doesn't bother him. It's getting caught telling them that he
doesn't want.

> You could always post redacted copies of anything that supports your
> claims.
> But you never have and never will, because you know what a liar you are
> and what a liar we have discovered you to be.

--
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

Ted

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Aug 21, 2017, 8:47:39 PM8/21/17
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He has a very low IQ.

Cloud Hobbit

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Aug 21, 2017, 8:48:38 PM8/21/17
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Nothing there says a random person calling your school is going to get access to your records.

Nothing there says an employer or prospective employer can access those records without your consent.

Face it Victor/Artie/Joe we all know you could prove your education claims if you wanted to. Innocent people are usually happy to prove they are not guilty of making up their CV. It's your "reputation" on the line and all you do is tell people to break the law instead of posting a redacted copy that has all of the personal info that might allow someone you don't want to know where you live or work.

You are a fraud.

Christopher A. Lee

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Aug 21, 2017, 9:32:53 PM8/21/17
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 00:44:31 +0000 (UTC), Smiler <smi...@jo.king>
wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:38:55 -0700, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
>
>> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 3:52:02 PM UTC-7, vtand...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 3:15:53 PM UTC-7, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
>>> > Like you have done Arty Joe every time you told people to call your
>>> > school and ask for your records?
>>> >
>>> > You forgot that would be against federal law.
>>>
>>> Show us that law. You mean that all my civilian employers broke the law
>>> when they called to verify my resume? NAH! You can't be that stupid.
>>> NOBODY IS THAT STUPID.
>>> >
>>> > Maybe you did flunk out.
>>> > Nothing you say about yourself has been shown to be true.
>>>
>>> You mean you chickenshit atheists refused all my advice on how to
>>> verify it.
>>>
>>> That's why I refuse to make any more attempts to prove anything about
>>> myself.
>>> You sleazy motherfuckers don't want the truth. It's a waste of time to
>>> help you scumbags with anything.
>>
>> You can not get that information it is a violation of federal law.
>>
>> https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/focus/daca-education-records.pdf
>>
>> You refuse to try and prove anything about yourself because you don't
>> want to get in more lies.
>
>Telling lies doesn't bother him. It's getting caught telling them that he
>doesn't want.

Yet they're so bloody obvious.

Mitchell Holman

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Aug 21, 2017, 10:11:57 PM8/21/17
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vtand...@gmail.com wrote in
news:8be576cf-bab1-456e...@googlegroups.com:
>> parentâ
> �™s written consent (or
>> your consent, if parental rights have transferred to you).
>
> HERE IT IS AGAIN:
>
> Under FERPA, a school or school district may disclose information from
> your education records without your consent to specific entities, such
> as a State education office, or for specific purposes, such as to
> comply with a court order. You may also ask someone else to view your
> education records for you (see Question 10).


That "specific entities" does not include Usenet posters.

If you make a claim about your background then YOU have
to prove it. "Go look up my records" is the cowards way out
esp. when you refuse to even post your name, much less the
Social Security number that all college transcripts are
indexed by.




Jeanne Douglas

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Aug 22, 2017, 6:45:25 AM8/22/17
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> > l â??rightâ?? under FERPA
> >> to inspect and review your education records. If you are age 18 or
> >> over o
> > r enrolled in a
> >> postsecondary institution (an â??eligible studentâ??), then y
> > ou have a right to view your own
> >> education records. Under FERPA, a parent includes any natural parent,
> >> gua
> > rdian, or individual
> >> (such as a foster parent) acting as parent in the absence of a parent
> >> or
> > guardian. The right to
> >> view the education records only covers a right to view the
> >> information in
> > the studentâ??s
> >> education records that is about that student, and not information in
> >> the
> > records that is about
> >> any other student.
> >> 8. If I cannot understand English, or my parent does not understand
> >> Engli
> > sh, do my parent(s) and I
> >> have a right to get help from the school to understand the education
> >> reco
> > rds?
> >> Yes. Federal civil rights laws require school districts to
> >> communicate ef
> > fectively with students
> >> and parents who do not understand English. This means that the school
> >> mus
> > t provide
> >> meaningful access to the information in the studentsâ?? education r
> > ecords. For example, if you
> >> or your parent requests to view your education records, and you or
> >> your p
> > arent cannot
> >> understand English, the school can provide meaningful assistance to
> >> you o
> > r your parent, by
> >> providing a qualified interpreter or written translation, to help you
> >> und
> > erstand the information in
> >> the education records in a language you can understand.
> >> 9. Can anyone other than me or my parent view my education records?
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes. Under FERPA, a school or school district may disclose
> >> information fr
> > om your education
> >> records without your consent to specific entities, such as a State
> >> educat
> > ion office, or for
> >> specific purposes, such as to comply with a court order. You may also
> >> ask
> > someone else to
> >> view your education records for you (see Question 10).
> >>
> >>
> >> 10.Can I ask someone else to view my education records for me?
> >> Yes. Under FERPA, if your parent or you (if you are an â??eligible
> > studentâ?? (see Question 7)
> >> would like someone else to view your education records, then your
> >> parent
> > or you (if you are an
> >> 39759.1
> >> eligible student) should provide written consent to the school or
> >> school
> > district permitting that
> >> person to access the record(s). Written consent includes all of the
> >> follo
> > wing:
> >> ï?§ Signature of the eligible student or the parent of a non-eligib
> > le student consenting
> >> to allow another person to see the education record(s);
> >> ï?§ Date that the consent was signed;
> >> ï?§ Name of the person(s) who may see the education record(s);
> >> ï?§ Description of the education record(s) that may be disclosed (o
> > r the information
> >> from the education record(s) that may be disclosed); and
> >> ï?§ The reason for allowing the person or party to see the educatio
> > ??s written consent (or
> >> your consent, if parental rights have transferred to you).
> >
> > HERE IT IS AGAIN:
> >
> > Under FERPA, a school or school district may disclose information from
> > your education records without your consent to specific entities, such
> > as a State education office, or for specific purposes, such as to
> > comply with a court order. You may also ask someone else to view your
> > education records for you (see Question 10).
>
>
> That "specific entities" does not include Usenet posters.
>
> If you make a claim about your background then YOU have
> to prove it. "Go look up my records" is the cowards way out
> esp. when you refuse to even post your name, much less the
> Social Security number that all college transcripts are
> indexed by.
>
>
>
Seriously, people, why are you all still beating this dead horself?




--
Posted by Mimo Usenet Browser v0.2.5
http://www.mimousenet.com/mimo/post


Cloud Hobbit

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Aug 22, 2017, 4:44:28 PM8/22/17
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I get a laugh every time I see how you don't understand the difference between evidence and opinion.

Or how poor your reading skills are.

Or rereading how you claimed to be a lawyer.

I suppose I should feel sorry for you that you are so desperate to pretend you are more than you really are.

I can't because you are also such a pompous ass.

Kevrob

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Aug 22, 2017, 4:57:18 PM8/22/17
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Educational_Rights_and_Privacy_Act

This was called the "Buckley Amendment" when it was being debated.
As in Senator James L Buckley (Conservative-NY)* later a Federal judge.
The "sainted brother" of William F Buckley, Jr.

He beat Rockefeller's appointee to the seat Bobby Kennedy /b/o/u/g/h/t/
won in 1964, at the 1970 election. It was a 3-way race between a Democrat,
a Republican and a Conservative. Buckley caucused with the Republicans,
the way Sanders of VT and King of Maine caucus with the Dems.

Theoretically, Arty could arrange a transcript release to anyone
interested in his collegiate records. I am not up on the bureaucratic
hoops one must jump through for that.

Kevin R

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_L._Buckley

Jeanne Douglas

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On 22 Aug 2017 01:57 PM ,Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 10:11:57 PM UTC-4, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > vtand...@gmail.com wrote in
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> > >> have=20
> > > reached the age of
> > >> majority in your State (generally over 18) and parental rights have
> > >> trans=20
> > > ferred to you), does not
> > >> need to provide consent when asking someone else to view your
> > >> education r=20
> > > ecords. Instead,
> > >> under the IDEA a representative of your parent or you (if parental
> > >> rights=20
> > > have transferred to
> > >> you) has a right to inspect and review your education records, and
> > >> the sc=20
> > > hool cannot require
> > >> written consent from your parent or you before granting this request.
> > >> 11.If I give consent for someone else to view my education records,
> > >> does=20
> > > the school have to
> > >> provide that person access to my education records?
> > >> It depends. Under FERPA, the school may choose to provide that person
> > >> acc=20
> > > ess based on
> > >> the consent you provided, but the school is not required to do so.
> > >> Under=20
> > > the IDEA, however, if
> > >> you are a student covered by the IDEA, the school must provide a
> > >> represen=20
> > > tative of your
> > >> parent (or you, if parental rights have transferred to you (see
> > >> Question=20
> > > 10)) access to inspect
> > >> and review your education records, even without requiring your
> > >> parent=C3=A2=20
> > > =EF=BF=BD=E2=84=A2s written consent (or
> > >> your consent, if parental rights have transferred to you).
> > >=20
> > > HERE IT IS AGAIN:
> > >=20
> > > Under FERPA, a school or school district may disclose information from
> > > your education records without your consent to specific entities, such
> > > as a State education office, or for specific purposes, such as to
> > > comply with a court order. You may also ask someone else to view your
> > > education records for you (see Question 10).=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > That "specific entities" does not include Usenet posters.=20
> >=20
> > If you make a claim about your background then YOU have
> > to prove it. "Go look up my records" is the cowards way out
> > esp. when you refuse to even post your name, much less the=20
> > Social Security number that all college transcripts are=20
> > indexed by.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Educational_Rights_and_Privacy_Act
>
> This was called the "Buckley Amendment" when it was being debated.
> As in Senator James L Buckley (Conservative-NY)* later a Federal judge.
> The "sainted brother" of William F Buckley, Jr.
>
> He beat Rockefeller's appointee to the seat Bobby Kennedy /b/o/u/g/h/t/
> won in 1964, at the 1970 election. It was a 3-way race between a Democrat,
> a Republican and a Conservative. Buckley caucused with the Republicans,
> the way Sanders of VT and King of Maine caucus with the Dems.
>
> Theoretically, Arty could arrange a transcript release to anyone
> interested in his collegiate records. I am not up on the bureaucratic
> hoops one must jump through for that.


All he needs to do is get his own copy of the documents and post them somewhere for all to see.

vtand...@gmail.com

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! So you and the other atheist scumbags could start telling lies about them???? My education records are none of your business, you ignorant cunt.

Yap Honghor

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Hmmmmm....your record is no business of ours?
Then why did you ask us to look it up ourselves???????

vtand...@gmail.com

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I notice you answered NONE of my quiz questions. That means YOU are the stupid one.

vtand...@gmail.com

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LIAR:

Cloud Hobbit

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Aug 23, 2017, 3:32:08 AM8/23/17
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Thanks Arty Joe for proving you are ashamed of your records or lack thereof.

People falsely accused are always eager to prove it.

Of course, your reputation is already shot to he'll, so I guess it doesn't matter.

Sad.

Jeanne Douglas

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And there's all the evidence we need that ArtieJoe KNOWS that we can never get those records from the school.

Jeanne Douglas

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Which is proof that his demand that we do that was nothing but a dishonest smokescreen.

Jeanne Douglas

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On 23 Aug 2017 12:13 AM ,vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 5:47:39 PM UTC-7, Fred wrote:
> > Yap Honghor <hhya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 22, 2017 at 8:36:14 AM UTC+8, vtand...@gmail.com wro=
> te:
> > >> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 5:32:44 PM UTC-7, vtand...@gmail.com wro=
> te:
> > >>> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 4:38:58 PM UTC-7, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > >>>> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 3:52:02 PM UTC-7, vtand...@gmail.com w=
> rote:
> > >>>>> On Monday, August 21, 2017 at 3:15:53 PM UTC-7, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > >>>>>> Like you have done Arty Joe every time you told people to call you=
> r
> > >>>>>> school and ask for your records?
> > >>>>>>=20
> > >>>>>> You forgot that would be against federal law.
> > >>>>>=20
> > >>>>> Show us that law. You mean that all my civilian employers broke the
> > >>>>> law when they called to verify my resume? NAH! You can't be that
> > >>>>> stupid. NOBODY IS THAT STUPID.
> > >>>>>>=20
> > >>>>>> Maybe you did flunk out.
> > >>>>>> Nothing you say about yourself has been shown to be true.
> > >>>>>=20
> > >>>>> You mean you chickenshit atheists refused all my advice on how to v=
> erify it.
> > >>>>>=20
> > >>>>> That's why I refuse to make any more attempts to prove anything abo=
> ut myself.
> > >>>>> You sleazy motherfuckers don't want the truth. It's a waste of time=
> to
> > >>>>> help you scumbags with anything.
> > >>>>=20
> > >>>> You can not get that information it is a violation of federal law.
> > >>>>=20
> > >>>> https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/focus/daca-education-records.pdf
> > >>>>=20
> > >>>> You refuse to try and prove anything about yourself because you don'=
> t
> > >>>> want to get in more lies.
> > >>>>=20
> > >>>> You could always post redacted copies of anything that supports your=
> claims.
> > >>>> But you never have and never will, because you know what a liar you
> > >>>> are and what a liar we have discovered you to be.
> > >>>=20
> > >>> You just told an obvious LIE. From the link:
> > >>>=20
> > >>>=20
> > >>> Who can access education records?
> > >>> 7. Do I have a legal right to view my education records?
> > >>> If you are under the age of 18, only your parent or guardian has the
> > >>> legal =E2=80=9Cright=E2=80=9D under FERPA
> > >>> to inspect and review your education records. If you are age 18 or ov=
> er or enrolled in a
> > >>> postsecondary institution (an =E2=80=9Celigible student=E2=80=9D), th=
> en you have a right to view your own
> > >>> education records. Under FERPA, a parent includes any natural parent,
> > >>> guardian, or individual
> > >>> (such as a foster parent) acting as parent in the absence of a parent
> > >>> or guardian. The right to
> > >>> view the education records only covers a right to view the informatio=
> n in the student=E2=80=99s
> > >>> education records that is about that student, and not information in
> > >>> the records that is about
> > >>> any other student.
> > >>> 8. If I cannot understand English, or my parent does not understand
> > >>> English, do my parent(s) and I
> > >>> have a right to get help from the school to understand the education =
> records?
> > >>> Yes. Federal civil rights laws require school districts to communicat=
> e
> > >>> effectively with students
> > >>> and parents who do not understand English. This means that the school=
> must provide
> > >>> meaningful access to the information in the students=E2=80=99 educati=
> on
> > >>> records. For example, if you
> > >>> or your parent requests to view your education records, and you or yo=
> ur parent cannot
> > >>> understand English, the school can provide meaningful assistance to y=
> ou
> > >>> or your parent, by
> > >>> providing a qualified interpreter or written translation, to help you
> > >>> understand the information in
> > >>> the education records in a language you can understand.
> > >>> 9. Can anyone other than me or my parent view my education records?
> > >>>=20
> > >>>=20
> > >>> Yes. Under FERPA, a school or school district may disclose informatio=
> n
> > >>> from your education
> > >>> records without your consent to specific entities, such as a State
> > >>> education office, or for
> > >>> specific purposes, such as to comply with a court order. You may also=
> ask someone else to
> > >>> view your education records for you (see Question 10).
> > >>>=20
> > >>>=20
> > >>> 10.Can I ask someone else to view my education records for me?
> > >>> Yes. Under FERPA, if your parent or you (if you are an =E2=80=9Celigi=
> ble
> > >>> student=E2=80=9D (see Question 7)
> > >>> would like someone else to view your education records, then your
> > >>> parent or you (if you are an=20
> > >>> 39759.1
> > >>> eligible student) should provide written consent to the school or
> > >>> school district permitting that
> > >>> person to access the record(s). Written consent includes all of the f=
> ollowing:
> > >>> =EF=82=A7 Signature of the eligible student or the parent of a non-el=
> igible student consenting
> > >>> to allow another person to see the education record(s);
> > >>> =EF=82=A7 Date that the consent was signed;
> > >>> =EF=82=A7 Name of the person(s) who may see the education record(s);
> > >>> =EF=82=A7 Description of the education record(s) that may be disclose=
> d (or the information
> > >>> from the education record(s) that may be disclosed); and
> > >>> =EF=82=A7 The reason for allowing the person or party to see the educ=
> ation record(s).
> > >>> If you are a student covered by the IDEA, your parent or you (if you
> > >>> have reached the age of
> > >>> majority in your State (generally over 18) and parental rights have
> > >>> transferred to you), does not
> > >>> need to provide consent when asking someone else to view your educati=
> on records. Instead,
> > >>> under the IDEA a representative of your parent or you (if parental
> > >>> rights have transferred to
> > >>> you) has a right to inspect and review your education records, and th=
> e
> > >>> school cannot require
> > >>> written consent from your parent or you before granting this request.
> > >>> 11.If I give consent for someone else to view my education records,
> > >>> does the school have to
> > >>> provide that person access to my education records?
> > >>> It depends. Under FERPA, the school may choose to provide that person=
> access based on
> > >>> the consent you provided, but the school is not required to do so.
> > >>> Under the IDEA, however, if
> > >>> you are a student covered by the IDEA, the school must provide a repr=
> esentative of your
> > >>> parent (or you, if parental rights have transferred to you (see
> > >>> Question 10)) access to inspect
> > >>> and review your education records, even without requiring your parent=
> =E2=80=99s
> > >>> written consent (or
> > >>> your consent, if parental rights have transferred to you).
> > >>=20
> > >> HERE IT IS AGAIN:
> > >>=20
> > >> Under FERPA, a school or school district may disclose information from=
> your education=20
> > >> records without your consent to specific entities, such as a State
> > >> education office, or for=20
> > >> specific purposes, such as to comply with a court order. You may also =
> ask someone else to=20
> > >> view your education records for you (see Question 10).=20
> > >>=20
> > >> See that, asshole: It says "without your consent." That's why my
> > >> civilian employers did not ask for my permission. They didn't need it.
> > >=20
> > > You really can't read, Mad Joe.
> > > You pick a phrase to state your own projection...."without your consent=
> "
> > > is to comply with court order!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >=20
> > > Your language standard is worse than a 1st grader.
> >=20
> > He has a very low IQ.
>
> I notice you answered NONE of my quiz questions. That means YOU are the stu=
> pid one.


Of course it doesn't, you silly boy.
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