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Budikka666
Sep 29, 2012, 10:47:56 AM9/29/12
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Andrew
Oct 1, 2012, 3:27:48 AM10/1/12
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"Budikka666" wrote in message news:k471ms$2up$1...@dont-email.me...
> http://preposterousuniverse.com/writings/dtung/
>
> Budikka
"The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
of the universe." -- ibid
Yes, it is really not that difficult to figure out, for those who
are not afraid of the truth.
Thanks again Budikka!
Andrew
> http://preposterousuniverse.com/writings/dtung/
>
> Budikka
"The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
of the universe." -- ibid
Yes, it is really not that difficult to figure out, for those who
are not afraid of the truth.
Thanks again Budikka!
Andrew
Jeanne Douglas
Oct 1, 2012, 4:24:47 AM10/1/12
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In article <4KmdnYxIDakM2PTN...@earthlink.com>,
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote:
> "Budikka666" wrote in message news:k471ms$2up$1...@dont-email.me...
> > http://preposterousuniverse.com/writings/dtung/
> >
> > Budikka
>
> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> of the universe." -- ibid
Why does it make it tempting?
> "Budikka666" wrote in message news:k471ms$2up$1...@dont-email.me...
> > http://preposterousuniverse.com/writings/dtung/
> >
> > Budikka
>
> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> of the universe." -- ibid
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
Devils Advocaat
Oct 1, 2012, 4:41:12 AM10/1/12
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On 1 Oct, 09:24, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <4KmdnYxIDakM2PTNnZ2dnUVZ_rOdn...@earthlink.com>,
>
> "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:k471ms$2up$1...@dont-email.me...
> In article <4KmdnYxIDakM2PTNnZ2dnUVZ_rOdn...@earthlink.com>,
>
> "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> > "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:k471ms$2up$1...@dont-email.me...
> > >http://preposterousuniverse.com/writings/dtung/
>
> > > Budikka
>
> > "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> > event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> > has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> > of the universe." -- ibid
>
> Why does it make it tempting?
Does Andrew think ibid is the name of a scientist?
>
> > > Budikka
>
> > "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> > event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> > has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> > of the universe." -- ibid
>
> Why does it make it tempting?
harry k
Oct 1, 2012, 9:23:41 AM10/1/12
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Harry K
The Magpie
Oct 1, 2012, 11:32:59 AM10/1/12
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On 01/10/2012 08:27, Andrew wrote:
>
> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> of the universe." -- ibid
>
> Yes, it is really not that difficult to figure out, for those who
> are not afraid of the truth.
>
Andrew, I have repeatedly asked you to stop taking this coward's way
>
> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> of the universe." -- ibid
>
> Yes, it is really not that difficult to figure out, for those who
> are not afraid of the truth.
>
out when *you* start a discussion by offering *evidence* of your
claims - but you *never* do offer evidence. just this ridiculous
cowardice.
Why do you neither stop it, nor even answer my polite requests.
John Locke
Oct 1, 2012, 4:33:09 PM10/1/12
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 00:27:48 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:
...sure, it's easy if you employ the "God did it" nonsense. Science
doesn't work by magic. We need evidence and we're getting there.
There's a lot of good ideas that explain the origin of the Universe
but unfortunately for you, none of them involve a magic god.
wrote:
doesn't work by magic. We need evidence and we're getting there.
There's a lot of good ideas that explain the origin of the Universe
but unfortunately for you, none of them involve a magic god.
Message has been deleted
Andrew
Oct 1, 2012, 7:57:18 PM10/1/12
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"Jeanne Douglas" wrote in message news:hlwdjsd2-F21A79...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
God had a crucial role to play in our origins.
> "Andrew" wrote:
>
>> "Budikka666" wrote in message news:k471ms$2up$1...@dont-email.me...
>> > http://preposterousuniverse.com/writings/dtung/
>> >
>> > Budikka
>>
>> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
>> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
>> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
>> of the universe." -- ibid
>
> Why does it make it tempting?
Simply because it is the best explanation.
>
>> "Budikka666" wrote in message news:k471ms$2up$1...@dont-email.me...
>> > http://preposterousuniverse.com/writings/dtung/
>> >
>> > Budikka
>>
>> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
>> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
>> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
>> of the universe." -- ibid
>
> Why does it make it tempting?
God had a crucial role to play in our origins.
Jeanne Douglas
Oct 1, 2012, 9:17:45 PM10/1/12
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In article <uLidnfTq2ZHnsPfN...@earthlink.com>,
How is it the best explanation?
> God had a crucial role to play in our origins.
Which you have yet to provide a shred of evidence for.
> God had a crucial role to play in our origins.
Barry OGrady
Oct 1, 2012, 9:32:30 PM10/1/12
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:57:18 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote:
Bullshit had a crucial role to play in God.
wrote:
Father Haskell
Oct 1, 2012, 10:29:12 PM10/1/12
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On Oct 1, 3:26 am, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
>
> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> of the universe." -- ibid
Argument from ignorance.
>
> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> of the universe." -- ibid
Christopher A. Lee
Oct 1, 2012, 10:40:53 PM10/1/12
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god AND that it did it.
Jeanne Douglas
Oct 1, 2012, 10:56:24 PM10/1/12
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In article <5vkk689eqmdq90v34...@4ax.com>,
No need to discuss whether it did anything until it's established that
it exists.
it exists.
Christopher A. Lee
Oct 1, 2012, 11:05:13 PM10/1/12
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granted that they cannot conceive of anybody else not doing the same.
harry k
Oct 1, 2012, 11:47:28 PM10/1/12
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On Oct 1, 4:55 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Jeanne Douglas" wrote in messagenews:hlwdjsd2-F21A79...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
> > "Andrew" wrote:
>
> >> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:k471ms$2up$1...@dont-email.me...
Harry K
> "Jeanne Douglas" wrote in messagenews:hlwdjsd2-F21A79...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
> > "Andrew" wrote:
>
> >> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:k471ms$2up$1...@dont-email.me...
> >> >http://preposterousuniverse.com/writings/dtung/
>
> >> > Budikka
>
> >> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> >> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> >> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> >> of the universe." -- ibid
>
> > Why does it make it tempting?
>
> Simply because it is the best explanation.
>
> God had a crucial role to play in our origins.
If basedless assertions were dimes, you would be rich.
>
> >> > Budikka
>
> >> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> >> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> >> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> >> of the universe." -- ibid
>
> > Why does it make it tempting?
>
> Simply because it is the best explanation.
>
> God had a crucial role to play in our origins.
Harry K
Andrew
Oct 2, 2012, 1:37:08 AM10/2/12
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"Father Haskell" wrote in message news:e821fd26-2969-4e54...@h4g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
- Argument from ignorance.
Dr. Sean Carroll ranks as one of the most intellligent people
on our planet. The above was from one of the better posts by
our friend Budikka.
"Andrew" wrote:
>
> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> of the universe." -- ibid
-
>
> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> of the universe." -- ibid
- Argument from ignorance.
Dr. Sean Carroll ranks as one of the most intellligent people
on our planet. The above was from one of the better posts by
our friend Budikka.
Andrew
Oct 2, 2012, 1:38:11 AM10/2/12
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"The Magpie" wrote in message news:MIias.118309$Nf1....@fx25.am4...
> Andrew wrote:
>>
>> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
>> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
>> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
>> of the universe." -- ibid
>>
>> Yes, it is really not that difficult to figure out, for those who
>> are not afraid of the truth.
>>
> Andrew, I have repeatedly asked you to stop taking this coward's way
> out when *you* start a discussion by offering *evidence* of your
> claims - but you *never* do offer evidence. just this ridiculous
> cowardice.
It appears that you are suffering from frustration.
>>
>> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
>> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
>> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
>> of the universe." -- ibid
>>
>> Yes, it is really not that difficult to figure out, for those who
>> are not afraid of the truth.
>>
> Andrew, I have repeatedly asked you to stop taking this coward's way
> out when *you* start a discussion by offering *evidence* of your
> claims - but you *never* do offer evidence. just this ridiculous
> cowardice.
Andrew
Oct 2, 2012, 1:38:57 AM10/2/12
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"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message news:hlwdjsd2-9B0E19...@news.giganews.com...
Budikka already did, in this very thread.
SkyEyes
Oct 2, 2012, 3:35:11 AM10/2/12
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On Oct 1, 10:36 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "The Magpie" wrote in messagenews:MIias.118309$Nf1....@fx25.am4...
Anybody who tries to have a conversation with you usually winds up
that way, yes.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
> "The Magpie" wrote in messagenews:MIias.118309$Nf1....@fx25.am4...
that way, yes.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
Father Haskell
Oct 2, 2012, 4:24:47 AM10/2/12
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On Oct 2, 1:35 am, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Father Haskell" wrote in messagenews:e821fd26-2969-4e54...@h4g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
arg from ignorance.
> "Father Haskell" wrote in messagenews:e821fd26-2969-4e54...@h4g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>
> > "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> > event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> > has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> > of the universe." -- ibid
>
> -
> - Argument from ignorance.
>
> Dr. Sean Carroll ranks as one of the most intellligent people
> on our planet.
Let Sean be the Queen of Pluto, that was still an
>
> > "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> > event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> > has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> > of the universe." -- ibid
>
> -
> - Argument from ignorance.
>
> Dr. Sean Carroll ranks as one of the most intellligent people
> on our planet.
arg from ignorance.
Jeanne Douglas
Oct 2, 2012, 4:25:36 AM10/2/12
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In article <maudnZgT-rES4PfN...@earthlink.com>,
"Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote:
> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-9B0E19...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <uLidnfTq2ZHnsPfN...@earthlink.com>,
> > "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote:
> >> "Jeanne Douglas" wrote in message
> >> news:hlwdjsd2-F21A79...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
> >> > "Andrew" wrote:
> >> >> "Budikka666" wrote in message news:k471ms$2up$1...@dont-email.me...
> >> >> > http://preposterousuniverse.com/writings/dtung/
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Budikka
> >> >>
> >> >> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> >> >> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> >> >> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> >> >> of the universe." -- ibid
> >> >
> >> > Why does it make it tempting?
> >>
> >> Simply because it is the best explanation.
> >
> > How is it the best explanation?
> >
> >> God had a crucial role to play in our origins.
> >
> > Which you have yet to provide a shred of evidence for.
>
> Budikka already did, in this very thread.
Of course she didn't.
> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-9B0E19...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <uLidnfTq2ZHnsPfN...@earthlink.com>,
> > "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net> wrote:
> >> "Jeanne Douglas" wrote in message
> >> news:hlwdjsd2-F21A79...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
> >> > "Andrew" wrote:
> >> >> "Budikka666" wrote in message news:k471ms$2up$1...@dont-email.me...
> >> >> > http://preposterousuniverse.com/writings/dtung/
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Budikka
> >> >>
> >> >> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> >> >> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> >> >> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> >> >> of the universe." -- ibid
> >> >
> >> > Why does it make it tempting?
> >>
> >> Simply because it is the best explanation.
> >
> > How is it the best explanation?
> >
> >> God had a crucial role to play in our origins.
> >
> > Which you have yet to provide a shred of evidence for.
>
> Budikka already did, in this very thread.
Jeanne Douglas
Oct 2, 2012, 4:26:39 AM10/2/12
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Jeanne Douglas
Oct 2, 2012, 4:30:05 AM10/2/12
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In article <bJKdnSNvBKa94PfN...@earthlink.com>,
Which does not mean what you apparently think it does.
He said it is tempting. He said absolutely nothing about yielding to
said temptation.
You know. Temptation like you bible talks about, which you are supposed
to resist. Since Carroll seems to understand this, he obviously IS
intelligent. Not sure what to do with your mistakenly thinking he HAD
given in to temptation.
He said it is tempting. He said absolutely nothing about yielding to
said temptation.
You know. Temptation like you bible talks about, which you are supposed
to resist. Since Carroll seems to understand this, he obviously IS
intelligent. Not sure what to do with your mistakenly thinking he HAD
given in to temptation.
The Magpie
Oct 2, 2012, 9:31:13 AM10/2/12
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Ken
Oct 2, 2012, 10:55:17 AM10/2/12
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On Oct 2, 12:35 am, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Oct 1, 10:36 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote this shit
> > It appears that you are suffering from frustration.
>
> Anybody who tries to have a conversation with you usually winds up
> that way, yes.
>
> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
> BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
I've known brick walls that are more responsive and intelligent than
Andrew (and Jason, LiarBoi, Puke, Davie Boi and u$z)
> On Oct 1, 10:36 pm, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote this shit
> > It appears that you are suffering from frustration.
>
> Anybody who tries to have a conversation with you usually winds up
> that way, yes.
>
> Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
> BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
> skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
Andrew (and Jason, LiarBoi, Puke, Davie Boi and u$z)
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Ralph
Oct 2, 2012, 12:40:51 PM10/2/12
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would require at least
some semblance of a process of building, other than by the sound of his
voice.
Ralph
Oct 2, 2012, 2:00:05 PM10/2/12
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lifted this quote we see this:
"Rather, science judges the merits of competing models in terms of their
simplicity, clarity, comprehensiveness, and fit to the data.Unsuccessful
theories are never disproven, as we can always concoct elaborate schemes
to save the phenomena; they just fade away as better theories gain
acceptance.Attempting to explain the natural world by appealing to God
is, by scientific standards, not a very successful theory.The fact that
we humans have been able to understand so much about how the natural
world works, in our incredibly limited region of space over a remarkably
short period of time, is a triumph of the human spirit, one in which we
can all be justifiably proud."
Dr. Carroll also infers that invoking a god in the 21st Century is
nothing more than ignorant superstition.
Joe Bruno
Oct 2, 2012, 2:16:15 PM10/2/12
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On Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:47:57 AM UTC-7, Budikka666 wrote:
> http://preposterousuniverse.com/writings/dtung/
>
>
>
> Budikka
It doesn't?You're gonna tell me that all these complex, intricate systems
happened by chance?
I'll bet you believe in the Tooth Fairy, too.
> http://preposterousuniverse.com/writings/dtung/
>
>
>
> Budikka
It doesn't?You're gonna tell me that all these complex, intricate systems
happened by chance?
I'll bet you believe in the Tooth Fairy, too.
Joe Bruno
Oct 2, 2012, 3:12:30 PM10/2/12
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Jeanne Douglas
Oct 2, 2012, 4:03:51 PM10/2/12
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In article <8bqdncJrfOw3tvbN...@giganews.com>,
"implies"
Sorry--pet peeve.
> that invoking a god in the 21st Century is
> nothing more than ignorant superstition.
Sorry--pet peeve.
> that invoking a god in the 21st Century is
> nothing more than ignorant superstition.
Free Lunch
Oct 2, 2012, 6:41:49 PM10/2/12
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 22:38:57 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
You really need to stop deluding yourself and taking God's name in vain.
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
Free Lunch
Oct 2, 2012, 6:43:55 PM10/2/12
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 22:38:11 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
It is quite frustrating to see someone who alleges that he is Christian
relying on lies day after day. Why do you blame God for the lies that
you knowingly tell?
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
relying on lies day after day. Why do you blame God for the lies that
you knowingly tell?
Free Lunch
Oct 2, 2012, 6:48:07 PM10/2/12
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 07:55:17 -0700 (PDT), Ken <flak...@aol.com> wrote
in alt.talk.creationism:
They have come to the point that they worship their own stubbornness,
even if it is clear to everyone that they must know they are preaching
falsehoods, that they know that they are lying and blaming God for the
lies they preach.
in alt.talk.creationism:
even if it is clear to everyone that they must know they are preaching
falsehoods, that they know that they are lying and blaming God for the
lies they preach.
Free Lunch
Oct 2, 2012, 6:50:07 PM10/2/12
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 22:37:08 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
You selectively misrepresent what both of them say and then compliment
them on the way you have misrepresented them. You are a shameless liar.
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
them on the way you have misrepresented them. You are a shameless liar.
Andrew
Oct 2, 2012, 7:16:08 PM10/2/12
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"SkyEyes" wrote in message news:5229d4ac-c334-4442...@v19g2000pbt.googlegroups.com...
"Andrew" wrote:
- Anybody who tries to have a conversation with
- you usually winds up that way, yes.
Those who fight against the truth
usually become frustrated.
Andrew
"Andrew" wrote:
> "The Magpie" wrote:
> > Andrew wrote:
>
> >> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> >> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> >> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> >> of the universe." -- ibid
>
> >> Yes, it is really not that difficult to figure out, for those who
> >> are not afraid of the truth.
>
> > Andrew, I have repeatedly asked you to stop taking this coward's way
> > out when *you* start a discussion by offering *evidence* of your
> > claims - but you *never* do offer evidence. just this ridiculous
> > cowardice.
>
> It appears that you are suffering from frustration.
-
> > Andrew wrote:
>
> >> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
> >> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
> >> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
> >> of the universe." -- ibid
>
> >> Yes, it is really not that difficult to figure out, for those who
> >> are not afraid of the truth.
>
> > Andrew, I have repeatedly asked you to stop taking this coward's way
> > out when *you* start a discussion by offering *evidence* of your
> > claims - but you *never* do offer evidence. just this ridiculous
> > cowardice.
>
> It appears that you are suffering from frustration.
- Anybody who tries to have a conversation with
- you usually winds up that way, yes.
Those who fight against the truth
usually become frustrated.
Andrew
Andrew
Oct 2, 2012, 7:17:37 PM10/2/12
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"The Magpie" wrote in message news:C0Cas.143522$jS5.1...@fx27.am4...
> Andrew wrote:
to be produced inside of your body, which have been proven to increase
ones susceptibility to a list of degenerative diseases as well as shortening
your life span?
If in your daily life you have surrendered yourself to the truth, whatever it
may be and wherever it may lead, then whatever anyone else thinks, believes
or says will not effect your stress level because if they are in error then that
is their problem, not yours.
> Andrew wrote:
>> "The Magpie" wrote:
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
>>>> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
>>>> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
>>>> of the universe." -- ibid
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is really not that difficult to figure out, for those who
>>>> are not afraid of the truth.
>>>>
>>> Andrew, I have repeatedly asked you to stop taking this coward's way
>>> out when *you* start a discussion by offering *evidence* of your
>>> claims - but you *never* do offer evidence. just this ridiculous
>>> cowardice.
>>
>> It appears that you are suffering from frustration.
>>
> Yes Andrew - your continual dishonest cowardice frustrates me.
Why do you give me (or anyone else) the power to cause stress hormones
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
>>>> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
>>>> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
>>>> of the universe." -- ibid
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is really not that difficult to figure out, for those who
>>>> are not afraid of the truth.
>>>>
>>> Andrew, I have repeatedly asked you to stop taking this coward's way
>>> out when *you* start a discussion by offering *evidence* of your
>>> claims - but you *never* do offer evidence. just this ridiculous
>>> cowardice.
>>
>> It appears that you are suffering from frustration.
>>
> Yes Andrew - your continual dishonest cowardice frustrates me.
to be produced inside of your body, which have been proven to increase
ones susceptibility to a list of degenerative diseases as well as shortening
your life span?
If in your daily life you have surrendered yourself to the truth, whatever it
may be and wherever it may lead, then whatever anyone else thinks, believes
or says will not effect your stress level because if they are in error then that
is their problem, not yours.
Jeanne Douglas
Oct 2, 2012, 7:31:22 PM10/2/12
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In article <iJidnXGgiojI6PbN...@earthlink.com>,
I notice that you never responded to my post about your
misinterpretation of what Carroll said in the above quote.
I wonder why that is.
misinterpretation of what Carroll said in the above quote.
I wonder why that is.
Free Lunch
Oct 2, 2012, 7:36:16 PM10/2/12
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:16:08 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
Then why do you continue to lie?
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
Free Lunch
Oct 2, 2012, 7:37:37 PM10/2/12
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:17:37 -0700, "Andrew" <andrew....@usa.net>
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
I have accepted truth. You have chosen to preach lies, nothing but lies,
indefensible lies, lies you blame God for. Clearly you have chosen to
take God's name in vain. That is why no one believes you when you claim
to be Christian.
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
indefensible lies, lies you blame God for. Clearly you have chosen to
take God's name in vain. That is why no one believes you when you claim
to be Christian.
Ralph
Oct 2, 2012, 8:15:31 PM10/2/12
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long as you use a book of lies to support your worldview you won't be
able to recognize the truth
Ralph
Oct 2, 2012, 8:18:37 PM10/2/12
to
this country from falling into
religious dark ages again. It would be catastrophic to allow ignorant
scientific illiterates to control
this country.
Ralph
Oct 2, 2012, 8:39:01 PM10/2/12
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On 10/2/2012 1:38 AM, Andrew wrote:
> "Jeanne Douglas"<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in messagenews:hlwdjsd2-9B0E19...@news.giganews.com...
a central role in his creation? I can tell you but you won't like the
answer.
Man did!!!
> "Jeanne Douglas"<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in messagenews:hlwdjsd2-9B0E19...@news.giganews.com...
>> In article<uLidnfTq2ZHnsPfN...@earthlink.com>,
>> "Andrew"<andrew....@usa.net> wrote:
>>> "Jeanne Douglas" wrote in message
>>> news:hlwdjsd2-F21A79...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>> "Budikka666" wrote in messagenews:k471ms$2up$1...@dont-email.me...
>> "Andrew"<andrew....@usa.net> wrote:
>>> "Jeanne Douglas" wrote in message
>>> news:hlwdjsd2-F21A79...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>> http://preposterousuniverse.com/writings/dtung/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Budikka
>>>>> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
>>>>> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
>>>>> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
>>>>> of the universe." -- ibid
>>>> Why does it make it tempting?
>>> Simply because it is the best explanation.
>> How is it the best explanation?
>>
>>> God had a crucial role to play in our origins.
>> Which you have yet to provide a shred of evidence for.
> Budikka already did, in this very thread.
>
Where???? If god had a crucial role to play in our origins, then who played
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Budikka
>>>>> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
>>>>> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
>>>>> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
>>>>> of the universe." -- ibid
>>>> Why does it make it tempting?
>>> Simply because it is the best explanation.
>> How is it the best explanation?
>>
>>> God had a crucial role to play in our origins.
>> Which you have yet to provide a shred of evidence for.
> Budikka already did, in this very thread.
>
a central role in his creation? I can tell you but you won't like the
answer.
Man did!!!
Ralph
Oct 2, 2012, 8:40:30 PM10/2/12
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On 10/2/2012 1:38 AM, Andrew wrote:
> "The Magpie" wrote in messagenews:MIias.118309$Nf1....@fx25.am4...
>> Andrew wrote:
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
>>> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
>>> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
>>> of the universe." -- ibid
>>>
>>> event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
>>> has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
>>> of the universe." -- ibid
>>>
>>> Yes, it is really not that difficult to figure out, for those who
>>> are not afraid of the truth.
>>>
>> Andrew, I have repeatedly asked you to stop taking this coward's way
>> out when *you* start a discussion by offering *evidence* of your
>> claims - but you *never* do offer evidence. just this ridiculous
>> cowardice.
> It appears that you are suffering from frustration.
>
>
>
>
When you discuss anything with an ignorant god worshiper, it is
>>> are not afraid of the truth.
>>>
>> Andrew, I have repeatedly asked you to stop taking this coward's way
>> out when *you* start a discussion by offering *evidence* of your
>> claims - but you *never* do offer evidence. just this ridiculous
>> cowardice.
> It appears that you are suffering from frustration.
>
>
>
>
frustrating!
Budikka666
Oct 2, 2012, 9:18:03 PM10/2/12
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Congratulations on once again getting all the atheists to dance to
your tune using *your* header. I freely admit here that you have them
trained like Pavlov's dogs, but now it's time for you to pay the price
for the free ride you get on *my* back.
Now it's time for you to dance to *my* tune, and the dance is the
quick-step as you once again flee from me, thereby openly admitting
that your creator god isn't worth shit.
Thanks ever-so for proving, every time I ask you to, that you have
ZERO faith in your creator! lol! I freely admit this also: you and
your cowardly ilk do far more damage to your creationist cause than I
ever could.
Here's the tune:
Please present your five best evidences - and I am *not* *even*
*asking* that they be objective, or indepenent, or scientific. In
short, this debate will be on your turf using only evidence that *you*
choose, and I *guarantee you* that I will win it.
Go ahead, post *any* *five* *evidences* that you care to pull out of
your ass and commit to formally debating them with me right here, and
we'll start, *and* as a bonus offer, I will support my transitional
claim above using solid scientific evidence.
Here's my cast-iron guarantee to every one else: ANDREW WILL RUN LIKE
DIARRHEA, because he knows as well as we do that there is no
omnipotent god to help him against me in debate and he knows that he
and his fellow cowardly creationists prove this statement *every*
*time* *they* *run*!
Budikka
your tune using *your* header. I freely admit here that you have them
trained like Pavlov's dogs, but now it's time for you to pay the price
for the free ride you get on *my* back.
Now it's time for you to dance to *my* tune, and the dance is the
quick-step as you once again flee from me, thereby openly admitting
that your creator god isn't worth shit.
Thanks ever-so for proving, every time I ask you to, that you have
ZERO faith in your creator! lol! I freely admit this also: you and
your cowardly ilk do far more damage to your creationist cause than I
ever could.
Here's the tune:
Please present your five best evidences - and I am *not* *even*
*asking* that they be objective, or indepenent, or scientific. In
short, this debate will be on your turf using only evidence that *you*
choose, and I *guarantee you* that I will win it.
Go ahead, post *any* *five* *evidences* that you care to pull out of
your ass and commit to formally debating them with me right here, and
we'll start, *and* as a bonus offer, I will support my transitional
claim above using solid scientific evidence.
Here's my cast-iron guarantee to every one else: ANDREW WILL RUN LIKE
DIARRHEA, because he knows as well as we do that there is no
omnipotent god to help him against me in debate and he knows that he
and his fellow cowardly creationists prove this statement *every*
*time* *they* *run*!
Budikka
Andrew
Oct 3, 2012, 11:44:27 AM10/3/12
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"Jeanne Douglas" wrote in message news:hlwdjsd2-CFBFFA...@news.giganews.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
and to come out of darkness and accept the light of truth.
> Since Carroll seems to understand this, he obviously IS
> intelligent. Not sure what to do with your mistakenly
> thinking he HAD given in to temptation.
I didn't say that. But what he said here was the truth.
> "Andrew" wrote:
>> "Father Haskell" wrote:
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>> >
>> > "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
>> > event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
>> > has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
>> > of the universe." -- ibid
>> -
>> - Argument from ignorance.
>>
>> Dr. Sean Carroll ranks as one of the most intellligent people
>> on our planet. The above was from one of the better posts by
>> our friend Budikka.
>
> Which does not mean what you apparently think it does.
>
> He said it is tempting. He said absolutely nothing about
> yielding to said temptation.
>
> You know. Temptation like you bible talks about, which you
> are supposed to resist.
In this case it is a temptation to acknowledge the obvious
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>> >
>> > "The inability of established physics to describe the Big Bang
>> > event makes it tempting to consider the possibility that God
>> > has a crucial role to play at this unique moment in the history
>> > of the universe." -- ibid
>> -
>> - Argument from ignorance.
>>
>> Dr. Sean Carroll ranks as one of the most intellligent people
>> on our planet. The above was from one of the better posts by
>> our friend Budikka.
>
> Which does not mean what you apparently think it does.
>
> He said it is tempting. He said absolutely nothing about
> yielding to said temptation.
>
> You know. Temptation like you bible talks about, which you
> are supposed to resist.
and to come out of darkness and accept the light of truth.
> Since Carroll seems to understand this, he obviously IS
> intelligent. Not sure what to do with your mistakenly
> thinking he HAD given in to temptation.
Jeanne Douglas
Oct 3, 2012, 3:13:45 PM10/3/12
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In article <k4hmdj$kfe$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
Sure it was. People are tempted all the time by stupid things. Don't
know why you're finding this so profound.
know why you're finding this so profound.
Andrew
Oct 3, 2012, 6:29:47 PM10/3/12
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"Jeanne Douglas" wrote in message news:hlwdjsd2-E6D4D5...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
> "Andrew" wrote:
Yes.
> People are tempted all the time by stupid things.
Yes.
> Don't know why you're finding this so profound.
Yes.
> "Andrew" wrote:
> People are tempted all the time by stupid things.
> Don't know why you're finding this so profound.
Budikka666
Oct 3, 2012, 8:20:04 PM10/3/12
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Thanks for once proving what a fundamental hypocrite you are by openly
admitting that you have ZERO faith in your pissant little tinpot god's
ability to help you beat me in a formal debate.
And especial thanks for admitting that you have ZERO evidence for this
fictional god of yours.
That's all I wanted, and once again you delivered.
In closing, let me add that it's noteworhty that I gave everyone a
*cast-iron guarantee* of yoru behavior, and you once again did not let
me down. Thanks for trashing your own cause irreparably! I knew I
could count on you.
Budikka
admitting that you have ZERO faith in your pissant little tinpot god's
ability to help you beat me in a formal debate.
And especial thanks for admitting that you have ZERO evidence for this
fictional god of yours.
That's all I wanted, and once again you delivered.
In closing, let me add that it's noteworhty that I gave everyone a
*cast-iron guarantee* of yoru behavior, and you once again did not let
me down. Thanks for trashing your own cause irreparably! I knew I
could count on you.
Budikka
Seth lePod
Oct 3, 2012, 8:52:17 PM10/3/12
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On Oct 3, 8:42 am, "Andrew" <andrew.321re...@usa.net> wrote:
> "Jeanne Douglas" wrote in messagenews:hlwdjsd2-CFBFFA...@news.giganews.com...
Yes it was. In fact, it's so tempting to consider the
possibility of god that countless have succumbed to
that temptation.
And having thus succumbed, have then considered Ganesh,
Sidhe, Thor, Mog Ruith, Aphrodite, Govannon, Neptune,
Fomore, Krishna, Matres, Sedna, Neit, Lir, Medb, the
Titans, Luxovius, Hermes, Goibniu, Sith, Edain, and
literally tens of thousands of other considerations.
Which pretty much demonstrates the usefulness of
yielding to that particular temptation.
Seth
> "Jeanne Douglas" wrote in messagenews:hlwdjsd2-CFBFFA...@news.giganews.com...
possibility of god that countless have succumbed to
that temptation.
And having thus succumbed, have then considered Ganesh,
Sidhe, Thor, Mog Ruith, Aphrodite, Govannon, Neptune,
Fomore, Krishna, Matres, Sedna, Neit, Lir, Medb, the
Titans, Luxovius, Hermes, Goibniu, Sith, Edain, and
literally tens of thousands of other considerations.
Which pretty much demonstrates the usefulness of
yielding to that particular temptation.
Seth
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