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Michael McLean

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Jan 30, 2023, 2:43:11 AM1/30/23
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Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
whatever...thousands of denominations!

Why?

Well, they find a truth, and then they attach their personal doctrines,
dogmas, and theology to that truth, and what happens then is that they
follow those doctrines, dogmas, and theology off into their own personal
religious Lalaland.

You want proof of that?  Thousands, and thousands, and guess what, there
is only One.







Mike

--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

hhya...@gmail.com

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Jan 30, 2023, 3:59:43 AM1/30/23
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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 3:43:11 PM UTC+8, Michael McLean wrote:
> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
> whatever...thousands of denominations!

They exist because the lead cons of those sects want to scam money and gain control of their members!

Viktor Tandofsky

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Jan 30, 2023, 7:02:02 AM1/30/23
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On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 11:43:11 PM UTC-8, Michael McLean wrote:
> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
> whatever...thousands of denominations!
>
> Why?
>
> Well, they find a truth, and then they attach their personal doctrines,
> dogmas, and theology to that truth, and what happens then is that they
> follow those doctrines, dogmas, and theology off into their own personal
> religious Lalaland.
>
> You want proof of that? Thousands, and thousands, and guess what, there
> is only One.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> --


Because there are different interpretations of biblical passages.

Mitchell Holman

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Jan 30, 2023, 9:03:49 AM1/30/23
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Viktor Tandofsky <vtand...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:55812a16-23cc-414b...@googlegroups.com:
Because there are so many contradictions of biblical passages.



https://thoughtcatalog.com/jim-goad/2014/05/30-pairs-of-bible-verses-that-
contradict-one-another/

JWS

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Jan 30, 2023, 9:19:17 AM1/30/23
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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 1:43:11 AM UTC-6, Michael McLean wrote:
> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
> whatever...thousands of denominations!
>
> Why?
>
> Well, they find a truth, and then they attach their personal doctrines,
> dogmas, and theology to that truth, and what happens then is that they
> follow those doctrines, dogmas, and theology off into their own personal
> religious Lalaland.
>
> You want proof of that?
I got proof. Your glurge is plenty of proof.
Thanks for your service.

Tim

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Jan 30, 2023, 1:33:05 PM1/30/23
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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
> whatever...thousands of denominations!
>
> Why?

Because christers can't agree on anything, derp.

<remaining shit snipped>

Viktor Tandofsky

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Jan 30, 2023, 3:12:39 PM1/30/23
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There are also different denoms of Jews, Moslems and Hindus.
Different people have different views. Lots of people don't believe in
evolution, either. People disagree on abortion, gay marriage, gun control,
legal drugs. That is life.

Mitchell Holman

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Jan 30, 2023, 9:26:08 PM1/30/23
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Viktor Tandofsky <vtand...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:0eccd35b-3131-443c...@googlegroups.com:
Imagine you were god, you created a race
of people, and you had a moral code you wanted
all of them to follow.

Would you personally tell all the people
the same thing at the same time, or would you
give contradictory "revelations" to a series
of illiterate prophets at intervals and watch
them go to war over what you meant?



Michael McLean

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Jan 30, 2023, 10:37:25 PM1/30/23
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Tim is in a world of his own, where he decides what reality is, what the
facts are; his beliefs determine it all for all.

:-).

Michael McLean

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Jan 30, 2023, 10:42:43 PM1/30/23
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An atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit pretending he is the
meaning of life.

Like Carlin.

Frank Lee

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Jan 31, 2023, 2:34:50 AM1/31/23
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Michael McLean wrote:
> On 31/01/2023 7:12 am, Viktor Tandofsky wrote:
> > On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:33:05 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
> >> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> >>> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
> >>> whatever...thousands of denominations!
> >>>
> >>> Why?
> >> Because christers can't agree on anything, derp.
> >>
> >> <remaining shit snipped>
> >
> > There are also different denoms of Jews, Moslems and Hindus.
> > Different people have different views. Lots of people don't believe in
> > evolution, either. People disagree on abortion, gay marriage, gun control,
> > legal drugs. That is life.
>
> Tim is in a world of his own, where he decides what reality is, what the
> facts are; his beliefs determine it all for all.

Captain Projection rides again.

Michael McLean

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Jan 31, 2023, 3:26:07 AM1/31/23
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Wow, deep.

The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life.

Yeah, right, I'll call you.

Viktor Tandofsky

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Jan 31, 2023, 5:54:43 AM1/31/23
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You cannot expect people separated by thousands of miles and speaking different languages to develop the same religion.Judaism originated among the Hebrews in the Middle East, Islam began in Saudi Arabia among Arabs and Hinduism began in India. Even the Vikings had a separate religion.

JWS

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Jan 31, 2023, 6:46:35 AM1/31/23
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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:37:25 PM UTC-6, Michael McLean wrote:
> On 31/01/2023 7:12 am, Viktor Tandofsky wrote:
> > On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:33:05 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
> >> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> >>> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
> >>> whatever...thousands of denominations!
> >>>
> >>> Why?
> >> Because christers can't agree on anything, derp.
> >>
> >> <remaining shit snipped>
> >
> > There are also different denoms of Jews, Moslems and Hindus.
> > Different people have different views. Lots of people don't believe in
> > evolution, either. People disagree on abortion, gay marriage, gun control,
> > legal drugs. That is life.
> Tim is in a world of his own, where he decides what reality is, what the
> facts are; his beliefs determine it all for all.
ROFLMAO!

JWS

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Jan 31, 2023, 6:47:33 AM1/31/23
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On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 2:26:07 AM UTC-6, Michael McLean wrote:
> On 31/01/2023 6:34 pm, Frank Lee wrote:
> > Michael McLean wrote:
> >> On 31/01/2023 7:12 am, Viktor Tandofsky wrote:
> >>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:33:05 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
> >>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> >>>>> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
> >>>>> whatever...thousands of denominations!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why?
> >>>> Because christers can't agree on anything, derp.
> >>>>
> >>>> <remaining shit snipped>
> >>>
> >>> There are also different denoms of Jews, Moslems and Hindus.
> >>> Different people have different views. Lots of people don't believe in
> >>> evolution, either. People disagree on abortion, gay marriage, gun control,
> >>> legal drugs. That is life.
> >>
> >> Tim is in a world of his own, where he decides what reality is, what the
> >> facts are; his beliefs determine it all for all.
> >
> > Captain Projection rides again.
> Wow, deep.

> The definition of MX: A man full of bluster and bullshit

JWS

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Jan 31, 2023, 6:54:20 AM1/31/23
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Then you can not be expected to to believe in the
all powerful GOB who can manage to create a
universe, but the earth is too big for him to
handle, who himself caused people to speak
different languages and thereby screwed up his
own message. GOB is all knowing, all powerful,
but can't figure out that his stupid plans will not
produce reliable results. This is the "designer"
who can't do anything right. What a joke.

Tim

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Jan 31, 2023, 6:58:28 AM1/31/23
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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:37:25 PM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> On 31/01/2023 7:12 am, Viktor Tandofsky wrote:
> > On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:33:05 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
> >> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> >>> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
> >>> whatever...thousands of denominations!
> >>>
> >>> Why?
> >> Because christers can't agree on anything, derp.
> >>
> >> <remaining shit snipped>
> >
> > There are also different denoms of Jews, Moslems and Hindus.
> > Different people have different views. Lots of people don't believe in
> > evolution, either. People disagree on abortion, gay marriage, gun control,
> > legal drugs. That is life.
> Tim is in a world of his own, where he decides what reality is, what the
> facts are; his beliefs determine it all for all.

stevie lives in a world of lies and distortions where he quotes his own stupidity and attributes it to others.

Tim

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Jan 31, 2023, 6:59:17 AM1/31/23
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Just answer the question you dodgy fucker.

Mitchell Holman

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Jan 31, 2023, 9:03:54 AM1/31/23
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Viktor Tandofsky <vtand...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:4c6b971b-3eff-465c...@googlegroups.com:
That is just the point.

If god want his moral code to be followed
by all societies why didn't he reveal it to
all societies? Why WASN'T the Ten Commandments
given to the Vikings and the Chinese or the
Sumarians or the Mayans or the Aboriginies?











Viktor Tandofsky

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Jan 31, 2023, 10:14:55 AM1/31/23
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ROTFL! Bob Duncan is right. You atheists are not interested in actual religion. You make up your own. You are immune to reality.

Viktor Tandofsky

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Jan 31, 2023, 10:16:09 AM1/31/23
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The Viks, Chinese and Mayans don't use the Ten.; HAHAHAHA

Mitchell Holman

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Jan 31, 2023, 10:18:40 AM1/31/23
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Viktor Tandofsky <vtand...@gmail.com> wrote in
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If you cannot explain the biggest lapse
of logic in your religion just say so.





Viktor Tandofsky

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Jan 31, 2023, 10:36:05 AM1/31/23
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What I say is explaining anything to you athies is impossible.

Tim

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Jan 31, 2023, 10:48:23 AM1/31/23
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You are yet to explain how avoiding combat constitutes fighting for your country.

Mitchell Holman

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Jan 31, 2023, 1:23:57 PM1/31/23
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Viktor Tandofsky <vtand...@gmail.com> wrote in
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And why not?

Is God's moral code just for Jews and Christians?



Ted

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Jan 31, 2023, 3:52:55 PM1/31/23
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But the Sumerians and Aborigines do?

Michael McLean

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Jan 31, 2023, 5:38:30 PM1/31/23
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Changing a man's words; a great wrong. What's the matter, haven't you
got any of your own, Hollow Boy?

Deceit and lies is all you atheists have where the rubber meets the
road, Wubblu Wobblu.

And you are going to get away with it?

Sure, you will.

You are already paying for it.
"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit

Jeffrey Rubard

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Jan 31, 2023, 5:42:38 PM1/31/23
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"Which see: St. Paul."
(An answer given to many, once.)

Michael McLean

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Jan 31, 2023, 5:42:42 PM1/31/23
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On 31/01/2023 10:58 pm, Tim wrote:
> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:37:25 PM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>> On 31/01/2023 7:12 am, Viktor Tandofsky wrote:
>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:33:05 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
>>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>>>>> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
>>>>> whatever...thousands of denominations!
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?
>>>> Because christers can't agree on anything, derp.
>>>>
>>>> <remaining shit snipped>

Viktor commented:
>>> There are also different denoms of Jews, Moslems and Hindus.
>>> Different people have different views. Lots of people don't believe in
>>> evolution, either. People disagree on abortion, gay marriage, gun control,
>>> legal drugs. That is life.

Mike said:
>> Tim is in a world of his own, where he decides what reality is, what the
>> facts are; his beliefs determine it all for all.

Tim the dickhead life arrives:
> stevie lives in a world of lies and distortions where he quotes his own stupidity and > attributes it to others.

Yes, flawed Tim decides, he is reality, he is fact, because he likes to
believe that. I already know.

You see, viktor, they always run and hide from the truth. Spineless
truth deserters. But it is going to catch up...tick...tock.

Jeffrey Rubard

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Jan 31, 2023, 5:43:34 PM1/31/23
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"Do you ever wonder whether 'freethinkers' think you make them look bad?"

Michael McLean

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Jan 31, 2023, 5:50:21 PM1/31/23
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(snip)
Jeffery wrote:
> "Do you ever wonder whether 'freethinkers' think you make them look bad?"

Is that what you are?

The truth doesn't bend to the preference of a lie.

Frank Lee

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Jan 31, 2023, 6:14:36 PM1/31/23
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Michael McLean <michaelm...@outlook.com> wrote:

> On 31/01/2023 6:34 pm, Frank Lee wrote:
> > Michael McLean wrote:
> >> On 31/01/2023 7:12 am, Viktor Tandofsky wrote:
> >>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:33:05 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
> >>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> >>>>> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
> >>>>> whatever...thousands of denominations!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why?
> >>>> Because christers can't agree on anything, derp.
> >>>>
> >>>> <remaining shit snipped>
> >>>
> >>> There are also different denoms of Jews, Moslems and Hindus.
> >>> Different people have different views. Lots of people don't believe in
> >>> evolution, either. People disagree on abortion, gay marriage, gun control,
> >>> legal drugs. That is life.
> >>
> >> Tim is in a world of his own, where he decides what reality is, what the
> >> facts are; his beliefs determine it all for all.
> >
> > Captain Projection rides again.
>
> Wow, deep.
>
> The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
> pretending he is the meaning of life.

MX is in a world of his own, where he decides what
reality is, what the facts are; his beliefs determine it
all for all.

<snip>

Frank Lee

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Jan 31, 2023, 6:23:41 PM1/31/23
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"Give all the glory to Christ Mike, and I will pass it on
to God, like a good Christ does." 覧MX

<snip>

Ted

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Jan 31, 2023, 6:29:07 PM1/31/23
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I know the Bible much better than do you
and the other christers here. How does that
prove lack of interest in religion?

Mitchell Holman

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Jan 31, 2023, 9:08:35 PM1/31/23
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Viktor Tandofsky <vtand...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:cf5b94b4-83e0-44ba...@googlegroups.com:
Why can't you answer a single question
about your own religion?





Michael McLean

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Feb 1, 2023, 3:14:13 AM2/1/23
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God determines reality, and not some stupid, nothingness, meaningless
self-made monkey atheist! :-).

The definition of an atheist: A full grown adult "rebellious child" full
of noisy chatter and infantile googoo gaagaa; the little fella
pretending he is the meaning of life.

Serves you right. Nobody gets away wiff it!

Michael McLean

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Feb 1, 2023, 3:41:37 AM2/1/23
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Frank the Wank atheist lied:
> "Give all the glory to Christ Mike, and I will pass it on
> to God, like a good Christ does." ——MX

Atheists lie, they have nothing else.

Nobody gets away wiff it. They have to live in a lie.

Serves you right.

Nuff said.
"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit

Tim

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Feb 1, 2023, 7:22:32 AM2/1/23
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Again, you assume facts that are not in evidence, nurse nash.

>
> The definition of an atheist: A full grown adult "rebellious child" full
> of noisy chatter and infantile googoo gaagaa; the little fella
> pretending he is the meaning of life.
> Serves you right. Nobody gets away wiff it!

Oh, the irony!

JWS

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Feb 1, 2023, 8:39:48 AM2/1/23
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That's what interpretation IS. You make up your own!
That was your first response in this thread. You
admitted it right off the bat. THAT'S WHAT RELIGION
IS. You roll your own idea of what what religion is
by INTERPRETING the word. By bending the word of
GOB to your own end.
And atheist here asked an honest question. You get
into your Dodge and drive away. Why can't you
answer Mitchell's question? Because it reveals a
truth of your "actual religion". Your religion was made
up by the tribes of the Jews. It's not for anyone else.
Everyone else make up THEIR own religion. An
atheist can READ the word of GOB without any
interpretation at all. An atheist understands actual
religion better than any theist.
If that's not true -- ANSWER THE QUESTION.
(A Calvinist will help you here -- ROFLMAO)

Michael McLean

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Feb 1, 2023, 4:40:16 PM2/1/23
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Oh, the motorbike! :-).

Get your own dirt, "me power" man.

Hear O Israel, Jesus Is The Messiah, i. e. Christ.

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Feb 1, 2023, 4:53:07 PM2/1/23
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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:

Why is there so many denominations in Christianity?

Because the Law on religious conscience in the West actually privatizes ownership of the place of worship.
This Law is rooted in the erroneous understanding of Christianity from the atheist obscurantists falsely called Enlightenment
philosophers.

Crooks took advantage of that LAW to voice their opinion and make money under this liberalism.

By the Way, Islam is a Christian Tradition as opposed to the Trinitarian One and the best interpreter of the Bible.

Michael McLean

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On 2/02/2023 8:53 am, Hear O Israel, Jesus Is The Messiah, i. e. Christ.
wrote:
They are all false, my friend, because they all think they have power.

Hear O Israel, Jesus Is The Messiah, i. e. Christ.

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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 7:02:02 AM UTC-5, vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 11:43:11 PM UTC-8, Michael McLean wrote:
> > Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
> > whatever...thousands of denominations!
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > Well, they find a truth, and then they attach their personal doctrines,
> > dogmas, and theology to that truth, and what happens then is that they
> > follow those doctrines, dogmas, and theology off into their own personal
> > religious Lalaland.
> >
> > You want proof of that? Thousands, and thousands, and guess what, there
> > is only One.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > --
> Because there are different interpretations of biblical passages.


There should not be various interpretations of the Law in one Country.

Christianity is the belief that Jesus is actually the Christ meaning Messiah(HaMaschiak)
foretold in the Hebraic Oracles, the Torah, the Prophets, and the Psalms.

The question therefore remains: Does the belief in Jesus as the Son Of God qualify as Christianity?

Paul defines Christianity as the belief that Jesus-Christ was the Son Of God.
But the Gentiles in the Greco-Roman world in the aftermath of the Council of Nicaea
defined Christianity as the Belief that Jesus and NOT Jesus-Christ was the Son Of God
and the second person of TRINITY.

WE SMELL THE RAT HERE: THIS NEWLY FOUND DEFINITION WAS MEANT TO HIDE THE CONTEXT OF THE NEW
TESTAMENT...
The White man is a friend of deceit !

Hear O Israel, Jesus Is The Messiah, i. e. Christ.

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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 9:26:08 PM UTC-5, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Viktor Tandofsky <vtand...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:0eccd35b-3131-443c...@googlegroups.com:
> > On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:33:05 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
> >> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean
> >> wrote:
> >> > Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists,
> >> > Presbyterian, whatever...thousands of denominations!
> >> >
> >> > Why?
> >> Because christers can't agree on anything, derp.
> >>
> >> <remaining shit snipped>
> >
> > There are also different denoms of Jews, Moslems and Hindus.
> > Different people have different views. Lots of people don't believe in
> > evolution, either. People disagree on abortion, gay marriage, gun
> > control, legal drugs. That is life.
> >
> Imagine you were god, you created a race


BUT YOU ARE NOT GOD, SO WHY SHALL WE CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT AND HOW YOU WANT IT?

Viktor Tandofsky

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Feb 1, 2023, 9:25:40 PM2/1/23
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I am fed up with your stupid games.

Viktor Tandofsky

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Feb 1, 2023, 9:50:05 PM2/1/23
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FUCK YOU, LYING SCUM

Viktor Tandofsky

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Feb 1, 2023, 9:51:37 PM2/1/23
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I went where the Navy sent me, idiot.

Tim

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You went to the navy to avoid combat while you claimed to have fought for your country:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/ldfjp4f_aRs/0Y_KyW-5DQAJ

"You really think the USA will deport a man who fought for her in the Navy for 6 years? YOU ARE ONE SILLY MOTHERFUCKER"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.atheism/ldfjp4f_aRs/Fyki5R2fCwAJ

"I guess you are too stupid to know that North Vietnam didn't have much of a navy. That's why I missed combat."


http://tinyurl.com/oovvzzc

"I joined the Navy Reserve at first to avoid going to Vietnam."

Michael McLean

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Feb 2, 2023, 3:18:58 AM2/2/23
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That might be a bit deep for Tim to understand.
"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

Tim

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Feb 2, 2023, 5:14:48 AM2/2/23
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http://tinyurl.com/oovvzzc

"I joined the Navy Reserve at first to avoid going to Vietnam."

What part of that don't you understand?

Viktor Tandofsky

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Feb 2, 2023, 7:42:16 AM2/2/23
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Tim is not interested in the truth. He and Holman just play dumb games.

Bob Duncan

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Feb 2, 2023, 8:21:51 AM2/2/23
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On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
> whatever...thousands of denominations!
>
> Why?


Satan knows that Christianity is the only true religion. He wants to make it
seem so confusing to new converts.

If you were a born-again Christian, you would already know the answer to that question.

--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.

Mitchell Holman

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Feb 2, 2023, 9:04:33 AM2/2/23
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Viktor Tandofsky <vtand...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:da2bc406-fc20-4be6...@googlegroups.com:
John Kerry was in the Navy too. Only HE
volunteered for Swiftboat duty, where the
combat was.

You know, the "coward" Kerry.






Viktor Tandofsky

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Feb 2, 2023, 9:30:20 AM2/2/23
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Kerry is a stupid jackass just like you and stupid fools do stupid things.

Viktor Tandofsky

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Feb 2, 2023, 9:32:01 AM2/2/23
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Right and you, big fuck refused to serve at all. You hypocritical piece of shit.

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Feb 2, 2023, 12:35:42 PM2/2/23
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the part where you are lying

Mitchell Holman

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Feb 2, 2023, 1:58:56 PM2/2/23
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Viktor Tandofsky <vtand...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:356e06c2-a7e0-4b82...@googlegroups.com:
Kerry volunteered for combat, got into
combat, got wounded in combat, and his crew
loved him. The way your crew does not love
you.



"The decisions that he made saved our lives.
He had unfailing instinct and unchallengable
leadership."
Kerry Vietnam crewmate Del Sandusky


"He took care of all of us. He really did."
Kerry Vietnam crewmate Gene Thorson.


"We were in a lot of firefights. You learn
a lot about people. After a firefight, John
would come up to me and he would put his hand
on me and he'd say, 'David, are you all right?’
'I didn't know then that I had a man of God on
my boat"
Kerry Vietnam crewmate David Alston



"Next thing I knew, John Kerry came out in the
middle of all this. I couldn't believe it. He
was going to get killed. He ran to the edge,
reached over with his good arm [Kerry had been
wounded in his right arm] and pulled me over
the lip."
Kerry Vietnam crewmate Jim Rassmann







Tim

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Feb 2, 2023, 2:07:44 PM2/2/23
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On your girlfriend? Not a fucking chance! I wouldn't fuck that fat drunk pig with the drunk dude's dick who is fucking her now and you pushing, you stinky little piss stain!

Mitchell Holman

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Feb 2, 2023, 2:09:16 PM2/2/23
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Viktor Tandofsky <vtand...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:c0d9eb0a-2d18-4429...@googlegroups.com:
Refused to serve? When I got out of
college in 1974 the military was *turning
away* volunteers. The war was over, the
draft was over and "downsizing" was the
order of the day.

Show me where getting turned away
from a military that doesn't need you
is "refused to serve".










Africa-Has-No-Other-Boss-But-Jesus

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Feb 2, 2023, 3:08:35 PM2/2/23
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On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 2:09:16 PM UTC-5, Mitchell Holman wrote:

> > Right and you, big fuck refused to serve at all.
> Refused to serve? When I got out of
> college in 1974 the military was *turning
> away* volunteers. The war was over, the
> draft was over and "downsizing" was the
> order of the day.
>
> Show me where getting turned away
> from a military that doesn't need you
> is "refused to serve".


WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR COLLEGE DEGREE IN ATHEISM?

Michael McLean

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Feb 2, 2023, 3:14:02 PM2/2/23
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Wise move.

He still went where the Navy sent him!

All men in the Navy during conflicts are heroes.

You stayed home in your chicken coop.

What part of that don't you understand?

Think, Dickhead.

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Feb 2, 2023, 3:19:12 PM2/2/23
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i'm single

Michael McLean

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Feb 2, 2023, 5:21:26 PM2/2/23
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On 3/02/2023 12:21 am, Bob Duncan wrote:
> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
>> whatever...thousands of denominations!
>>
>> Why?
>

Deceitful Bob wrote:
> Satan knows that Christianity is the only true religion. He wants to make it
> seem so confusing to new converts.

So you can make them twice the sinning sons of hell?


> If you were a born-again Christian, you would already know the answer to that question.
>

So clever to snip, holy sinner, because in your convenient snip I
answered my question.

Deceitful, Bob. Sinful, Bob, but you are saved because you are a special
sinner, right? There is a reason Jesus said the prostitutes and the
publicans enter the kingdom before you do, religious sinner.

You are never going to learn, it seems, until it is too late.

Viktor Tandofsky

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Feb 2, 2023, 5:26:06 PM2/2/23
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On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 3:54:20 AM UTC-8, JWS wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:54:43 AM UTC-6, vtand...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 6:26:08 PM UTC-8, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > > Viktor Tandofsky <vtand...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > > news:0eccd35b-3131-443c...@googlegroups.com:
> > > > On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 10:33:05 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
> > > >> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists,
> > > >> > Presbyterian, whatever...thousands of denominations!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Why?
> > > >> Because christers can't agree on anything, derp.
> > > >>
> > > >> <remaining shit snipped>
> > > >
> > > > There are also different denoms of Jews, Moslems and Hindus.
> > > > Different people have different views. Lots of people don't believe in
> > > > evolution, either. People disagree on abortion, gay marriage, gun
> > > > control, legal drugs. That is life.
> > > >
> > > Imagine you were god, you created a race
> > > of people, and you had a moral code you wanted
> > > all of them to follow.
> > >
> > > Would you personally tell all the people
> > > the same thing at the same time, or would you
> > > give contradictory "revelations" to a series
> > > of illiterate prophets at intervals and watch
> > > them go to war over what you meant?
> > You cannot expect people separated by thousands of miles and speaking different languages to develop the same religion.Judaism originated among the Hebrews in the Middle East, Islam began in Saudi Arabia among Arabs and Hinduism began in India. Even the Vikings had a separate religion.
> Then you can not be expected to to believe in the
> all powerful GOB who can manage to create a
> universe, but the earth is too big for him to
> handle, who himself caused people to speak
> different languages and thereby screwed up his
> own message. GOB is all knowing, all powerful,
> but can't figure out that his stupid plans will not
> produce reliable results. This is the "designer"
> who can't do anything right. What a joke.

The Hindus don't have one god. They have several.What are you talking about?

Viktor Tandofsky

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Feb 2, 2023, 5:47:22 PM2/2/23
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The Viking religion also has multiple gods.

Michael McLean

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Feb 2, 2023, 6:04:05 PM2/2/23
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His own God. Himself. :-).

Bob Duncan

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Feb 2, 2023, 6:39:51 PM2/2/23
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On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:21:26 PM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> On 3/02/2023 12:21 am, Bob Duncan wrote:
> > On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> >> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
> >> whatever...thousands of denominations!
> >>
> >> Why?
> >
> Deceitful Bob wrote:
> > Satan knows that Christianity is the only true religion. He wants to make it
> > seem so confusing to new converts.
> So you can make them twice the sinning sons of hell?
> > If you were a born-again Christian, you would already know the answer to that question.
> >
> So clever to snip, holy sinner, because in your convenient snip I
> answered my question.
>
> Deceitful, Bob. Sinful, Bob, but you are saved because you are a special
> sinner, right? There is a reason Jesus said the prostitutes and the
> publicans enter the kingdom before you do, religious sinner.
>
> You are never going to learn, it seems, until it is too late.


You cannot prove one word of what you just wrote.
It's all just your sinful totally depraved Satanic opinion.
And I'll bet you're proud of that fact too.

There is no doubt in my mind that you are not a regenerated born-again Christian.

Michael McLean

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Feb 2, 2023, 6:55:13 PM2/2/23
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On 3/02/2023 10:39 am, Bob Duncan wrote:
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:21:26 PM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>> On 3/02/2023 12:21 am, Bob Duncan wrote:
>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>>>> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
>>>> whatever...thousands of denominations!
>>>>
>>>> Why?
>>>
>> Deceitful Bob wrote:
>>> Satan knows that Christianity is the only true religion. He wants to make it
>>> seem so confusing to new converts.
>> So you can make them twice the sinning sons of hell?

>>> If you were a born-again Christian, you would already know the answer to that question.
>>>

Mike wrote:
>> So clever to snip, holy sinner, because in your convenient snip I
>> answered my question.
>>
>> Deceitful, Bob. Sinful, Bob, but you are saved because you are a special
>> sinner, right? There is a reason Jesus said the prostitutes and the
>> publicans enter the kingdom before you do, religious sinner.
>>
>> You are never going to learn, it seems, until it is too late.

Bob wrote:
> You cannot prove one word of what you just wrote.

What you did was dishonest and deceitful. And, you are not The Proofer
of Reality, Oh Great Sinning Calvinist!

> It's all just your sinful totally depraved Satanic opinion.
> And I'll bet you're proud of that fact too.
>
> There is no doubt in my mind that you are not a regenerated born-again Christian.

The mind of a deceitful dishonest person has no power to judge in truth.

Off you go now on your perfect sinner religious way.

Bob Duncan

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Feb 2, 2023, 8:19:19 PM2/2/23
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You still cannot prove one single word of anything you've written.

Whereas, I have got the Word of God to back up everything I've said.

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are
ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from
thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad
tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good
fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Therefore by their fruits you will know them." [Matthew 7:15-20]

I'd be more than glad to go through everything you've posted here in the last year, and
list everything that proves that you cannot be a born-again regenerated Christian.
Your fruit stinks.

Ted

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Feb 2, 2023, 8:48:29 PM2/2/23
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You might as well have "Pharisee" tattooed
on your forehead, Duncan.

Tim

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Feb 2, 2023, 8:58:38 PM2/2/23
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On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:21:26 PM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> On 3/02/2023 12:21 am, Bob Duncan wrote:
> > On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:43:11 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> >> Mormon, JWs, Charismatics, Pentes, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian,
> >> whatever...thousands of denominations!
> >>
> >> Why?
> >
> Deceitful Bob wrote:

Is he lying about god too or is it just you?

Don't go anywhere. I'll grab some popcorn for the christer fight!

:-)

Say, if the world is god's word as you claim, then so is this christer fight!

> > Satan knows that Christianity is the only true religion. He wants to make it
> > seem so confusing to new converts.
> So you can make them twice the sinning sons of hell?
> > If you were a born-again Christian, you would already know the answer to that question.
> >
> So clever to snip, holy sinner, because in your convenient snip I
> answered my question.
>
> Deceitful, Bob. Sinful, Bob, but you are saved because you are a special
> sinner, right? There is a reason Jesus said the prostitutes and the
> publicans enter the kingdom before you do, religious sinner.
>
> You are never going to learn, it seems, until it is too late.

It's distorter stevie vs deceitful boob! The piss ant vs adipose earl's favorite protest ant.

LOL!

Like I said, you christers don't agree on anything. Your christeranity is about as coherent and honest as George Santos and the US repugnicunt party.

Tim

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Feb 2, 2023, 9:00:07 PM2/2/23
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It's a religion. You can make up as many gods as you want.

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christer is not a word

Viktor Tandofsky

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Feb 2, 2023, 10:54:12 PM2/2/23
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All Christians agree that the Bible is their scripture and that Jesus is Messiah.
That is alot of law and faith. Honest? Faith is not fact.

Viktor Tandofsky

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Feb 2, 2023, 10:57:47 PM2/2/23
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Christians make up more than 30% of the Earth population. Moslems are about 25%.

Frank Lee

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Feb 3, 2023, 2:19:28 AM2/3/23
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Bob Duncan wrote:
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 6:55:13 PM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>
> > The mind of a deceitful dishonest person has no power to judge in truth.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> You still cannot prove one single word of anything you've written.

Are you claiming the mind of a deceitful person really
does have the power to judge in truth, whatever that
means?

> Whereas, I have got the Word of God to back up everything I've said.

You can't "back up" fiction with fiction.

Frank Lee

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% <purse...@gmail.com> wrote:

> christer is not a word

Stop being a stupid christer.


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Christer

Christer
noun
Christ·?er 'krist?(r)
plural-s
US slang, usually disparaging
1
: a Christian who is perceived as being overly pious or self-righteous or who proselytizes frequently
2
: one who is overly pious or prudish

Michael McLean

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Feb 3, 2023, 3:47:59 AM2/3/23
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<You can't hide what you did from the Lord>

<smirk off in your sinner glory, Bobby Dumps>

Nobody has to prove anything to you.

Truth sorts you out, sinner, not the other way around.

Bob Duncan

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Feb 3, 2023, 9:43:52 AM2/3/23
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On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 3:47:59 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:

> Nobody has to prove anything to you.



Correction: You cannot prove anything to me.

You've never proved anything you've posted.

Most everything you post is a lie.

I can prove you are not a born-again Christian.

--
God exists, uncreated and transcendental to space and time.
.


JWS

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Feb 3, 2023, 11:36:25 AM2/3/23
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On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:43:52 AM UTC-6, Bob Duncan wrote:
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 3:47:59 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>
> > Nobody has to prove anything to you.
> Correction: You cannot prove anything to me.
>
> You've never proved anything you've posted.
>
> Most everything you post is a lie.
>
> I can prove you are not a born-again Christian.
It's a real shame then that MX
has never even seen $50.

Viktor Tandofsky

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Feb 3, 2023, 2:03:33 PM2/3/23
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I had 6 different posts in the Navy. That was 50 years ago. How the fuck do you know how my crews felt, you stupid fraud?

Mitchell Holman

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Viktor Tandofsky <vtand...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:b1a61748-fb37-4c5d...@googlegroups.com:
You cannot even prove you WERE in the
Navy, much less what your alleged crewmates
thought about you.












Michael McLean

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Feb 3, 2023, 7:21:16 PM2/3/23
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On 4/02/2023 1:43 am, Bob Duncan wrote:
> On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 3:47:59 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>
>> Nobody has to prove anything to you.
>
>
>
> Correction: You cannot prove anything to me.
>
> You've never proved anything you've posted.
>
> Most everything you post is a lie.
>
> I can prove you are not a born-again Christian.

You are not born again, sinner; the sinners lied to you. However, you
will have the opportunity to prove to us all before the Lord Jesus soon
enough, Sinner of Magnificence.

Everyone will get the opportunity to see you prove yourself. What you
proudly demand of others will be demanded of you.

What you sow is what you reap.

Tim

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Feb 4, 2023, 9:25:35 AM2/4/23
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That is not a sentence.

Tim

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Feb 4, 2023, 9:28:28 AM2/4/23
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Evidence?

> That is alot of law and faith.

That is a lot of shit.

>Honest?


No, you are not honest.

>Faith is not fact.

No shit. You keep saying that and then foam at the mouth when you're told that the Exodus is a myth based on the same faith you keep yammering about.

You are an idiot. You can't read, you can't write, and you can't even count to thirty!

Tim

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Feb 4, 2023, 9:29:43 AM2/4/23
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And what does that have to do with the mating habits of squirrels, derp?

Tim

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Feb 4, 2023, 9:30:56 AM2/4/23
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So obviously you were not very good at any of them.

Bob Duncan

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Feb 4, 2023, 9:52:06 AM2/4/23
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On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 7:21:16 PM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> On 4/02/2023 1:43 am, Bob Duncan wrote:
> > On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 3:47:59 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> >
> >> Nobody has to prove anything to you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Correction: You cannot prove anything to me.
> >
> > You've never proved anything you've posted.
> >
> > Most everything you post is a lie.
> >
> > I can prove you are not a born-again Christian.
>
> You are not born again, sinner; the sinners lied to you.


Prove it.
If you don't, that's even more proof that you're a perpetual liar,
and also more proof that you are not a born-again Christian.

You don't just sin one time. You sin continually, and evidently
never seek forgiveness. You're not a Christian.

%

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Feb 4, 2023, 12:03:54 PM2/4/23
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only because christer is not a word

%

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so you ignore yourself

%

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so you ignore yourself

%

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so you ignore yourself

Tim

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Feb 4, 2023, 2:02:49 PM2/4/23
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You "want ant" because that other bug skeeter left you.
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