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linuxgal

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Oct 27, 2012, 7:01:00 PM10/27/12
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Stanislaus Stewart wrote:
>
> You should check out the campaigning. When Romney speaks, its to
> 99.99% whites. When Obama speaks you have a rainbow coalition,
> all colors. At the RNC convention I saw, on TV just two blacks.

I don't look at the color of the skin of supporters, but the content of
their character, because I have the same dream as that famous Republican
Martin Luther King Jr.

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Beavis

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Oct 27, 2012, 7:07:00 PM10/27/12
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Buddhists don't necessarily believe in a god. You should probably
leave them out of your satirical sig.

Ramon F. Herrera

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Oct 27, 2012, 7:20:54 PM10/27/12
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On Oct 27, 6:00 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> Stanislaus Stewart wrote:
>
> >    You should check out the campaigning. When Romney speaks, its to
> > 99.99% whites. When Obama speaks you have a rainbow coalition,
> > all colors. At the RNC convention I saw, on TV just two blacks.
>

> I don't look at the color of the skin of supporters, but the content of
> their character, because

> I have the same dream as that famous Republican
> Martin Luther King Jr.

MLK was Republican for a short period of time AND those days the roles
were reversed, respect to racism.

Isn't it fascinating that every time Conservatives are accused of
being racists, their instinctive reaction is to refer to history books
(the older, the better)?

-Ramon

----------------
Alabama's immigration law: Jim Crow revisited
By Martin Luther King III and Richard Trumka, Special to CNN
updated 11:23 AM EST, Thu November 17, 2011

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

# Writers: MLK began fight for civil rights in Alabama; now state is
denying rights again

# Alabama's strict immigration law terrorizes families, they say;
conflicts with our values

# They urge Obama to end laws that use racial profiling, target
immigrant communities

# Writers: We need to focus on comprehensive immigration reform and
fixing economy

Editor's note: Martin Luther King III is president and chief executive
officer of The King Center in Atlanta. Richard Trumka is president of
the AFL-CIO.

"(CNN) -- It is one of the painful ironies of our time that in the
same season Martin Luther King Jr.'s memory is finally honored with a
memorial in our nation's capital, the state where he began to lead the
civil rights movement is once more the center of an ugly conflict over
racial injustice.

"The passage of Alabama's anti-immigrant legislation, HB 56, invokes
inhumanity reminiscent of the Jim Crow South. And the police state it
has created is equally cruel.

"If the law stands, children will be denied admission to public
schools if they can't prove their citizenship, and schools will be
turned into enforcement operations. Poor people of color will be
ripped from their families if they are caught in public without their
papers in order. Samaritans and people of conscience who employ,
harbor or help undocumented workers will be severely punished.

[...]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/17/opinion/trumka-king-civil-rights-alabama/

Ramon F. Herrera

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Oct 27, 2012, 7:27:22 PM10/27/12
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On Oct 27, 6:00 pm, linuxgal <linux...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
> I have the same dream as that famous Republican
> Martin Luther King Jr.

[1] It is almost certain that he broke whatever affiliation he had
with the Republican Party, inherited via his father, who had gone so
far as to endorse Richard M. Nixon. After the nomination of Barry
Goldwater for the presidency, King wrote in his Autobiography, "The
Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction,
and extremism. All people of good will viewed with alarm and concern
the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical
right. The best man at this ceremony was a senator whose voting
record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won
achievements of the past decade." Photographs exist of King
campaigning for LBJ in 1964.

http://www.nndb.com/people/085/000028998/#FN1

-Ramon



Alex W.

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Oct 27, 2012, 7:30:18 PM10/27/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:01:00 -0700, linuxgal wrote:

> Stanislaus Stewart wrote:
>>
>> You should check out the campaigning. When Romney speaks, its to
>> 99.99% whites. When Obama speaks you have a rainbow coalition,
>> all colors. At the RNC convention I saw, on TV just two blacks.
>
> I don't look at the color of the skin of supporters, but the content of
> their character, because I have the same dream as that famous Republican
> Martin Luther King Jr.

Which does not change the fact that the Republicans have a most
serious demographic problem on their hands. Your core voter is
white, male, above average age and with below average educational
attainments, social status and income level. IOW, they appeal
primarily to old blue-collar whites. Given the rapidly changing
face of the American electorate, that's a recipe for disaster.

hypatiab7

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Oct 27, 2012, 9:05:45 PM10/27/12
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On Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:00:56 PM UTC-4, linuxgal wrote:
> Stanislaus Stewart wrote:
>
> >
>
> > You should check out the campaigning. When Romney speaks, its to
>
> > 99.99% whites. When Obama speaks you have a rainbow coalition,
>
> > all colors. At the RNC convention I saw, on TV just two blacks.
>
>
>
> I don't look at the color of the skin of supporters, but the content of
>
> their character, because I have the same dream as that famous Republican
>
> Martin Luther King Jr.
>
Nothing new in Republicans claiming Democrats as one of theirs.
It shows how desperate they are about how rotten and incompetent
their current leaders are.

Beavis

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Oct 27, 2012, 9:12:42 PM10/27/12
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King was a Republican, Mickey, and that's a fact. Do you understand
the historical perspective, or do you need somebody to explain it to
you?

Ramon F. Herrera

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Oct 27, 2012, 9:17:25 PM10/27/12
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Let's see what they are doing about the incoming debacle, shall we?

GOP, don't alienate Latino voters - Frog - Scorpion - It is in my
nature

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/23/opinion/navarrette-gop-debate

-Ramon

Mitchell Holman

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Oct 27, 2012, 9:56:55 PM10/27/12
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hypatiab7 <hypa...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:07af4f53-2184-465e...@googlegroups.com:
It must gall Republicans when all of the
candidates whose backgrounds they crave - rags
to riches, smart, successful despite a hardship
upbringing (Clinton, Obama) are Democrats.






Jeanne Douglas

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Oct 27, 2012, 10:21:24 PM10/27/12
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In article <XnsA0F9D4E276414...@216.196.121.131>,
Biden.

--
JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

Frank Galikanokus

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Oct 28, 2012, 12:04:27 AM10/28/12
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"Democrats are proclaiming that anyone who votes against Obama is doing
so because he's black"

Got any proof of that?






I didn't think so.

JAM

Frank Galikanokus

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Oct 28, 2012, 12:15:07 AM10/28/12
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Let me explain it to you.

Lincoln was a republican.

The hate filled racist in the U.S. were democrats because of this.

Because desegregation, civil rights, and voting rights were passed and
enforced by democrats all the hate filled racist in the U.S. switched to
the republicans.

L.B.J. said that the democrats had lost the south for a generation, he
was wrong. It's been over half a century and the hate filled racist in
the U.S. are still republicans.

JAM

Tracey12

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Oct 28, 2012, 4:40:11 AM10/28/12
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On Oct 27, 11:04 pm, Frank Galikanokus <FrankGalikano...@nospam.net>
wrote:

> "Democrats are proclaiming that anyone who votes against Obama is doing
>  so because he's black"
>
> Got any proof of that?
>
> I didn't think so.


Frank, how long have you been around here? You've got to be kidding,
right?
Let me help you out just a little:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

FULL:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_AP_POLL_RACIAL_ATTITUDES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-10-27-04-13-34

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Racial attitudes have not improved in the four
years since the United States elected its first black president, an
Associated Press poll finds, as a slight majority of Americans now
express prejudice toward blacks whether they recognize those feelings
or not.

Those views could cost President Barack Obama votes as he tries for re-
election...

\


Al

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Oct 28, 2012, 10:36:05 AM10/28/12
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In article
<88d51660-c453-422d...@g4g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
To get the Latino vote, Republicans have to embrace big government, as
latinos do. They'll have to embrace socialism, as Latinos do, they'll have
to embrace segregated neighborhoods and preferential treatment for Latinos,
as Latinos do.

IOW, to get the Latino vote, Republicans have to become socialist democrats.

Isn't it great to know that to get the Latino vote, Republicans just have to
pursue the policies of the Blue Model that is collapsing globally, and
ensure the eventual destruction of the US?

Al

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Oct 28, 2012, 10:40:06 AM10/28/12
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In article <508CAECB...@nospam.net>,
There's plenty of proof that people vote for him strictly based on his skin
color, and nothing else.

After all, his past is as far removed from the American black experience as
Romney's, but he's a leftist black, and you can't be an authentic black
unless you march in lockstep with the left.

If you don't, you're just a house ni**er.

Ramon F. Herrera

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Oct 28, 2012, 11:08:44 AM10/28/12
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On Oct 28, 9:36 am, Al <albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <88d51660-c453-422d-85e7-ce1144ec7...@g4g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
>  "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 27, 6:30 pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:01:00 -0700, linuxgal wrote:
> > > > Stanislaus Stewart wrote:
>
> > > >> You should check out the campaigning. When Romney speaks, its to
> > > >> 99.99% whites. When Obama speaks you have a rainbow coalition,
> > > >> all colors. At the RNC convention I saw, on TV just two blacks.
>
> > > > I don't look at the color of the skin of supporters, but the content of
> > > > their character, because I have the same dream as that famous Republican
> > > > Martin Luther King Jr.
>
> >  > Which does not change the fact that the Republicans have a most
> >  > serious demographic problem on their hands. Your core voter is
> >  > white, male, above average age and with below average educational
> >  > attainments, social status and income level. IOW, they appeal
> >  > primarily to old blue-collar whites. Given the rapidly changing
> >  > face of the American electorate, that's a recipe for disaster.
>
> > Let's see what they are doing about the incoming debacle, shall we?
>
> > GOP, don't alienate Latino voters - Frog - Scorpion - It is in my
>
> To get the Latino vote, Republicans have to embrace big government, as
> latinos do. They'll have to embrace socialism, as Latinos do, they'll have
> to embrace segregated neighborhoods and preferential treatment for Latinos,
> as Latinos do.

Keep the prejudice, insults and hatred alive, Al!!

You people make my job too easy...

-Ramon

ps: Does your candidate agree with your assessment or is he lying????

Frank Galikanokus

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Oct 28, 2012, 11:14:15 AM10/28/12
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Tracey12 wrote:
>
> On Oct 27, 11:04 pm, Frank Galikanokus <FrankGalikano...@nospam.net>
> wrote:
>
> > "Democrats are proclaiming that anyone who votes against Obama is doing
> > so because he's black"
> >
> > Got any proof of that?
> >
> > I didn't think so.
>
> Frank, how long have you been around here?

Longer than you.

You've got to be kidding,
> right?
> Let me help you out just a little:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> FULL:
>
> http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_AP_POLL_RACIAL_ATTITUDES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-10-27-04-13-34
>
> WASHINGTON (AP) -- Racial attitudes have not improved in the four
> years since the United States elected its first black president, an
> Associated Press poll finds, as a slight majority of Americans now
> express prejudice toward blacks whether they recognize those feelings
> or not.
>
> Those views could cost President Barack Obama votes as he tries for re-
> election...
>
> \

So you do not have any facts to back up your original statement quoted
above.

JAM

Frank Galikanokus

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Oct 28, 2012, 11:16:47 AM10/28/12
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Al wrote:
>
> In article <508CAECB...@nospam.net>,
> Frank Galikanokus <FrankGal...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
> > linuxgal wrote:
> > >
> > > Stanislaus Stewart wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You should check out the campaigning. When Romney speaks, its to
> > > > 99.99% whites. When Obama speaks you have a rainbow coalition,
> > > > all colors. At the RNC convention I saw, on TV just two blacks.
> > >
> > > I don't look at the color of the skin of supporters, but the content of
> > > their character, because I have the same dream as that famous Republican
> > > Martin Luther King Jr.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Need a spiritual home? Consider joining us at Mary Queen of the Universe
> > > Latter-day Buddhislamic Free Will Christian UFO Synagogue of Vishnu
> >
> > "Democrats are proclaiming that anyone who votes against Obama is doing
> > so because he's black"
> >
> > Got any proof of that?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I didn't think so.
> >
> > JAM
>
> There's plenty of proof that people vote for him strictly based on his skin
> color, and nothing else.

And you have some to show?

>
> After all, his past is as far removed from the American black experience as
> Romney's, but he's a leftist black, and you can't be an authentic black
> unless you march in lockstep with the left.
>
> If you don't, you're just a house ni**er.

If you vote against the President because of his skin color then you are
just a white nigger.

JAM

Al

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Oct 28, 2012, 11:36:49 AM10/28/12
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In article
<a142069b-15a8-4886...@4g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
Oh, and I almost forgot - to get the Latino vote, republicans must embrace
the tradition of answering supportable facts and empirical data with
accusations of racism and hate.

Is it the facts you hate, or do you just hate people who state those facts?



>
> You people make my job too easy...

You suck at you "job", amigo.

Al

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Oct 28, 2012, 11:43:19 AM10/28/12
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In article <508D4C5F...@nospam.net>,
I vote against him because his socialist, collective ideology is opposite my
ideology, and he's tremendously unqualified for the job having no life
experience, education or successes that he can draw from to run the world's
largest economy and military.

If that makes me a racist, kit doesn't matter, because the accusation has
jumped the shark, everyone now knows it's just plain bullshit.

Al

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Oct 28, 2012, 12:01:03 PM10/28/12
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In article
<a142069b-15a8-4886...@4g2000yql.googlegroups.com>,
"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:


>
> ps: Does your candidate agree with your assessment or is he lying????

I didn't offer an "assesdment", I offered "facts". You can't agree or
disagree with facts.

You can however dance around them or ignore them, or refrain from stating
these facts because the brownshirts will come after you, but you can;t agree
or disagree with them.

George Kerby

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Oct 28, 2012, 12:40:01 PM10/28/12
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On 10/28/12 10:16 AM, in article 508D4C5F...@nospam.net, "Frank
And what if you vote FOR him because of his skin color, Einstein? What does
THAT make someone, snookums?!?

Alex W.

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Oct 28, 2012, 2:14:26 PM10/28/12
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Rubbish.
Latinos are natural Republican voters. They are socially
conservative. They are also big on religion, family values,
small business, and hard work. The one reason why they will not
vote Republican is because at every turn all they hear from the
candidates is trash talk to the point of outright hate speech.
Latinos are welfare spongers, Lations are criminals, Latinos
steal jobs, Latinos are out to destroy the United States, Latinos
are single-handedly responsible for the ruinous state of
educziton and healthcare, and so on. Throw in some xenophobic
legislation ("driving while hispanic") or policy proposals, and
that's enough to persuade the Hispanic voter that however
sympatico Republican policies may otherwise be, they are simply
unelectable.

Jeanne Douglas

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Oct 28, 2012, 3:00:26 PM10/28/12
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In article <albert.finney000-59...@news.giganews.com>,
How can someone to the right of Richard Nixon have a "socialist,
collective ideology"?

duke

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Oct 28, 2012, 3:11:35 PM10/28/12
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:01:00 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:

>Stanislaus Stewart wrote:
>>
>> You should check out the campaigning. When Romney speaks, its to
>> 99.99% whites. When Obama speaks you have a rainbow coalition,
>> all colors. At the RNC convention I saw, on TV just two blacks.
>
>I don't look at the color of the skin of supporters, but the content of
>their character, because I have the same dream as that famous Republican
>Martin Luther King Jr.

Dey lakes dem frebes.

The dukester, American - American
********************************************
A vote for obama is a vote for the end of
democracy in America as we know it. Let the
rolling thunder guide your decision at the
ballot box to put an end to Imperial Obama.
May God bless America.
********************************************

Al

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Oct 28, 2012, 3:14:01 PM10/28/12
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In article <jan67r5iy8fu$.l11kjyt788uy$.d...@40tude.net>,
But they are NOT natural republican voters due to that which I cite.



> The one reason why they will not
> vote Republican is because at every turn all they hear from the
> candidates is trash talk to the point of outright hate speech.

Basically, your non-response is "Latinos re hard workes, and the facts you
present are hate speech".

George Kerby

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Oct 28, 2012, 3:26:53 PM10/28/12
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On 10/28/12 1:14 PM, in article jan67r5iy8fu$.l11kjyt788uy$.d...@40tude.net,
Al was talking about illegals from south of the border.

The Republican Latinos are not law-breakers and have entered the county the
right way, usually are from Cuba and love this country, not want to suck
it's teat for free.

Al

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Oct 28, 2012, 3:48:18 PM10/28/12
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In article <CCB2F12D.91B16%ghost_...@hotmail.com>,
The only problem with Latinos in this country is that the left has taken
control of that community, is working to create an unsustainable situation
using Latinos as a power base, and of course anyone that points out the
unsustainability, or any related problems is a HERETIC!!

That is how it came to pass that facts, when stated, can be classified by
them as hate speech.

And since hate speech deserves no discussion, only condemnation and stern
lecturing, they never actually confront the problems, and when the
inevitable problems slap them in the ass they just blame others and move on.

hypatiab7

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Oct 28, 2012, 7:30:34 PM10/28/12
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60 or 70 years ago? Sure. He became a Democrat around the same time the Southern Dems became Republicans. So?

RedDog

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Oct 28, 2012, 7:44:38 PM10/28/12
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King was never a Democrat, Hypatia, and since he (unfortunately) died
less than 50 years ago, WTF is wrong with your arithmetic? (I mean, I
always knew you were dumb, but THIS dumb???)

Alex W.

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Oct 28, 2012, 9:05:48 PM10/28/12
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That's a useful little misrepresentation. So you are saying that
if "Republican Latinos" are not law-breakers, why, that must mean
that the 80-odd per cent of Democrat-voting Latino citizens must
be law-breakers, illegals, aliens! And of course the right-wing
demagogues preaching fear and loathing of anyone with a Hispanic
background have nothing at all to do with this, right? So it's
OK to paint an entire community as sleazy, conniving leeches,
right?

Well, bub, you are being presented the bill for that
indiscriminate stereotyping at the polling booths. Just you keep
beating that drum, all the way into electoral irrelevance --
Latino citizens voting you out of office will show you the error
of your ways....

FirstPost

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Oct 28, 2012, 9:21:52 PM10/28/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 01:05:48 +0000, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk>
Always funny to see limey dumbasses that think they know more about
the US than those that live here.Hell you British morons don;t know
your asses from a hole in the ground when it comes to your own
politics.
BTW I don't believe the poster you're responding to holds any office
to be voted out of. But then you've always shown yourself to be a
babbling idiot.
Try doing something useful for a change like going to the dentist.

Al

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Oct 28, 2012, 9:27:38 PM10/28/12
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In article <hv10vbysbebu$.g5wxb6u7tch2$.d...@40tude.net>,
"Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


>
> That's a useful little misrepresentation. So you are saying that
> if "Republican Latinos" are not law-breakers, why, that must mean
> that the 80-odd per cent of Democrat-voting Latino citizens must
> be law-breakers, illegals, aliens! And of course the right-wing
> demagogues preaching fear and loathing of anyone with a Hispanic
> background have nothing at all to do with this, right? So it's
> OK to paint an entire community as sleazy, conniving leeches,
> right?


How do you propose to solve the issue of foreign nationals who come here and
stay here illegally? Considering the economic cost in both welfare and
suppression of wages for legal low-wage immigrants, can we possibility put
the interests of Americans above that of the illegal, foreign black market?

FirstPost

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Oct 28, 2012, 9:31:16 PM10/28/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:27:38 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hell, the stupid son of a bitch doesn't know and doesn't care.
People like him are the reason that the UK is being over ran by
radical Islamists.
He's more than willing to sell his own nation down the toilet so
there's no reason that he'd want to see the US do any better.
He can't vote in US elections and has no dog in the hunt, thus his
opinion means jack shit.


Dakota

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Oct 28, 2012, 9:31:59 PM10/28/12
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The Tea Party has transformed the Republican Party into a extreme
right-wing caricature of what it once was.

hypatiab7

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Oct 28, 2012, 9:46:21 PM10/28/12
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In 1956, Dr. King said that he had always voted Democratic, though he
wasn't sure whether to vote for Eisenhower or Stevenson. He voted for
Kennedy in 1960 and said that he would have voted for him again in 1964.
He also said that he would have endorsed Kennedy in 1964. Sounds like a Democrat to me, though I guess he could have been considered a current
day Independent. That is not a Republican. The sources of this material
are The Papers of Martin Luther King, Jr. and The Autobiography of Martin Luther King, Jr. ISBN 978-0-446-52412-4.

King died in 1968. That's 44 years ago. But, King said himself that
he always voted Democratic, though he wasn't happy with the Democrats or the Republicans. Still, he voted Democratic and would have endorsed JFK in 1964
if he'd lived to run again. King was born in 1929 which means he started
voting in 1950. That is 62 years ago. He was never a Republican.

Happy now? I know you aren't.

Al

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Oct 28, 2012, 9:53:42 PM10/28/12
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In article <etmr88th7290b8nsa...@4ax.com>,
FirstPost <AIOE_posters_...@AIOE.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:27:38 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <hv10vbysbebu$.g5wxb6u7tch2$.d...@40tude.net>,
> > "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> That's a useful little misrepresentation. So you are saying that
> >> if "Republican Latinos" are not law-breakers, why, that must mean
> >> that the 80-odd per cent of Democrat-voting Latino citizens must
> >> be law-breakers, illegals, aliens! And of course the right-wing
> >> demagogues preaching fear and loathing of anyone with a Hispanic
> >> background have nothing at all to do with this, right? So it's
> >> OK to paint an entire community as sleazy, conniving leeches,
> >> right?
> >
> >
> >How do you propose to solve the issue of foreign nationals who come here and
> >stay here illegally? Considering the economic cost in both welfare and
> >suppression of wages for legal low-wage immigrants, can we possibility put
> >the interests of Americans above that of the illegal, foreign black market?
>
> Hell, the stupid son of a bitch doesn't know and doesn't care.
> People like him are the reason that the UK is being over ran by
> radical Islamists.

The trouble is, once it's discovered that the multicultural approach to a
democracy is a recipe for failure, it's too late.

And now Europe gets to host, yet again, a clash of civilizations. That's
what the left wants in America.


> He's more than willing to sell his own nation down the toilet so
> there's no reason that he'd want to see the US do any better.
> He can't vote in US elections and has no dog in the hunt, thus his
> opinion means jack shit.

International opinion is much like "popular" opinion in the US, the left
always screams the loudest, they have to. Just like they have to lie, that's
why they are so good at it.

It's hard to understand how a leftist can look at the huge pile of bodies
their ideology leaves behind, and say "yeah, that's for me!".

Frank Galikanokus

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Oct 28, 2012, 10:23:05 PM10/28/12
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The President is not a socialist and you are a fool.

JAM

Frank Galikanokus

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Oct 28, 2012, 10:27:46 PM10/28/12
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I'll vote for him because I believe he is our best bet to stop the right
wing fascist from destroying our nation with hate and ignorance. I'll
vote for him because I believe he and the democrats are our best bet to
tax and regulate the wealthy and to big to fail into submission the the
will of a free people.

JAM

Frank Galikanokus

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Oct 28, 2012, 10:28:24 PM10/28/12
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duke wrote:
>
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:01:00 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com> wrote:
>
> >Stanislaus Stewart wrote:
> >>
> >> You should check out the campaigning. When Romney speaks, its to
> >> 99.99% whites. When Obama speaks you have a rainbow coalition,
> >> all colors. At the RNC convention I saw, on TV just two blacks.
> >
> >I don't look at the color of the skin of supporters, but the content of
> >their character, because I have the same dream as that famous Republican
> >Martin Luther King Jr.
>
> Dey lakes dem frebes.
>
> The dukester, American embarasment

JAM

Al

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Oct 28, 2012, 11:14:44 PM10/28/12
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In article <508DE889...@nospam.net>,
Until the presidency, that's all he knew, read his own words, fool.

Jeanne Douglas

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Oct 28, 2012, 11:36:57 PM10/28/12
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In article <hv10vbysbebu$.g5wxb6u7tch2$.d...@40tude.net>,
The denial about the impending demographic change in this country is
unbelievable.

Alex W.

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Oct 29, 2012, 5:15:53 AM10/29/12
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The "economic cost" of cheaper consumer goods and services as
well as bigger corporate profits is something that Americans have
been living with quite happily for decades now. Ditto the
"economic cost" of hiring a Mexican maid or nanny so the wife can
go and earn an American-sized salary to pay for that big
lifestyle. Not to forget the "economic cost" of the millions of
illegals who work legal jobs using a fake SS numer and whose
payroll taxes therefore subsidise Social Security, Medicare and
unemployment schemes without actually ever using those services
themselves, being illegals.

Here's a thought. Next time you sit down and work out the family
budget for the month, just double the expenses for fruit and veg,
for meat, for your cleaner. Then, next weekend, drive round and
look at new-build homes. Imagine paying 10-15% more for each and
every one. And while you're at it, you may as well give your
local taxes a hike because services like garbage, sewerage or
street-cleaning all depend on illegal labour. Now tot it all up
and see what that does to your income and lifestyle.

People who shout about those dastardly illegals are exactly like
guys who rant about the dangers of their kids smoking weed while
downing a few shots of Jack Daniels. Eejits.


Don Martin

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Oct 29, 2012, 9:02:29 AM10/29/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:21:52 -0500, FirstPost
<AIOE_posters_...@AIOE.org> wrote to Alex W.:

>BTW I don't believe the poster you're responding to holds any office
>to be voted out of.

Anyone capable of reading Mr W's post with comprehension is aware that
it is not a person, but the Republican party he writes of as being
addicted to thick-headed stereotypes.

You are apparently a Republican.

--

aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
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Don Martin

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Oct 29, 2012, 9:02:29 AM10/29/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:31:59 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
wrote:
And they weren't all _that_ savory under Harding.

Don Martin

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Oct 29, 2012, 9:02:29 AM10/29/12
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:36:57 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>> > The Republican Latinos are not law-breakers and have entered the county the
>> > right way, usually are from Cuba and love this country, not want to suck
>> > it's teat for free.
>>
>> That's a useful little misrepresentation. So you are saying that
>> if "Republican Latinos" are not law-breakers, why, that must mean
>> that the 80-odd per cent of Democrat-voting Latino citizens must
>> be law-breakers, illegals, aliens! And of course the right-wing
>> demagogues preaching fear and loathing of anyone with a Hispanic
>> background have nothing at all to do with this, right? So it's
>> OK to paint an entire community as sleazy, conniving leeches,
>> right?
>>
>> Well, bub, you are being presented the bill for that
>> indiscriminate stereotyping at the polling booths. Just you keep
>> beating that drum, all the way into electoral irrelevance --
>> Latino citizens voting you out of office will show you the error
>> of your ways....
>
>The denial about the impending demographic change in this country is
>unbelievable.

But, but, but, aren't white people _supposed_ to be in charge here?

George Kerby

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Oct 29, 2012, 11:24:28 AM10/29/12
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On 10/28/12 8:05 PM, in article hv10vbysbebu$.g5wxb6u7tch2$.d...@40tude.net,
> Well, bub, you are being presented the bill for that
> indiscriminate stereotyping at the polling booths. Just you keep
> beating that drum, all the way into electoral irrelevance --
> Latino citizens voting you out of office will show you the error
> of your ways....

I'm not in any office, but it WOULD be nice if those voters are UNITED
STATES citizens, Bubba.

George Kerby

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Oct 29, 2012, 11:37:21 AM10/29/12
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On 10/28/12 9:27 PM, in article 508DE9A2...@nospam.net, "Frank
Frankie, my boy, if you buy that crap, let me get you a deal on some
oceanfront property in Arizona.

Let me ask you, just HOW MUCH TIME have the DimRats had in the Congress and
now four years in the Oval Office to present and pass a Budget?!? HOW MUCH
MORE DEBT can this bunch put our Nation in the hole?

BUT all your ilk can come up with is "the wealthy are too rich" and "hate
and ignorance". BULLSHIT WORDS and phrases to pacify you proles.

Say "Bah-haa-haaaa", sheep...

Alex W.

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Oct 29, 2012, 2:15:54 PM10/29/12
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:02:29 -0500, Don Martin wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:36:57 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> > The Republican Latinos are not law-breakers and have entered the county the
>>> > right way, usually are from Cuba and love this country, not want to suck
>>> > it's teat for free.
>>>
>>> That's a useful little misrepresentation. So you are saying that
>>> if "Republican Latinos" are not law-breakers, why, that must mean
>>> that the 80-odd per cent of Democrat-voting Latino citizens must
>>> be law-breakers, illegals, aliens! And of course the right-wing
>>> demagogues preaching fear and loathing of anyone with a Hispanic
>>> background have nothing at all to do with this, right? So it's
>>> OK to paint an entire community as sleazy, conniving leeches,
>>> right?
>>>
>>> Well, bub, you are being presented the bill for that
>>> indiscriminate stereotyping at the polling booths. Just you keep
>>> beating that drum, all the way into electoral irrelevance --
>>> Latino citizens voting you out of office will show you the error
>>> of your ways....
>>
>>The denial about the impending demographic change in this country is
>>unbelievable.
>
> But, but, but, aren't white people _supposed_ to be in charge here?

Erm, no, they are not.
Generic white people are mongrels. You need to be more specific.

Us white *British* people have more or less given up on the
notion of being in charge of thelesser part of North America, so
we're out.

Depending on who you talk to, white *Protestant* people are
supposed to be in charge.

Or white *Jewish* banker-type people.

Or whiter-than-white Aryan white people.

Or possibly white *Amish* people, according to a very persuasive
cnspiracy website I ran across once.

It's all very confusing, really....

Alex W.

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Oct 29, 2012, 2:17:46 PM10/29/12
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Which comment just goes to show how you lot think in stereotypes
only. Apparently, the phenomenal growth of American citizens of
Latio extraction has very much passed you by in your obsession
with illegals.

George Kerby

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Oct 29, 2012, 3:25:53 PM10/29/12
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On 10/29/12 1:17 PM, in article sanlid93y0jo$.txdyf2dawipj$.d...@40tude.net,
Yes it has. Bingo! When they kill the citizens and take off for the Border
to escape prosecution, it tends to piss me off. Noticing that you are
British, I can see why you can look down your bigassed nose at us 'heathens'
over here and cluck like a hen. You have never had illegals stealing
hospital facilities, collide with your automobile, vote in your elections
and take benefits from your government. ALL without bothering to apply for
citizenship like most immigrants do that DO care about the country they are
adopting. I have many friends from all over the world have done it right, or
their forefathers had. I have little tolerance for those who do not RESPECT
THE LAW.

But I forgot: You must embrace your illegal Muslim brothers that are
overrunning your island with open arms, do you not? Go take care of your own
business before sticking that honker in other peoples' business!

Al

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:10:37 PM10/29/12
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In article <13kgncsbae1do.g...@40tude.net>,
Oh so it all works out economically then!

Until you figure in the cost associated with births, medical care for life,
education, food and all the taxpayer chpsin for. Amd the chances they will
become anything more than net tax recipients are very, very slim.




>
> Here's a thought. Next time you sit down and work out the family
> budget for the month, just double the expenses for fruit and veg,
> for meat,

No, not really.

Most of not all produce can be harvested by machine. Producers won't make
that capital investment when they have cheap labor that receives more in
benefits than pay.

A business model that factors in illegal, black-market labor is not a
sustainable business model. Time for this agricultural subsidy to end, time
to progressively modernize.


> for your cleaner.


Plenty of services that use legal workers, a non-issue.



> Then, next weekend, drive round and
> look at new-build homes. Imagine paying 10-15% more for each and
> every one.

And jobs that paid 17-20 bucks an hour in California in the 70's and 80's
in now pay $10 hr.

It's all Mexicans now. Taxpayer-sunsidized.




> And while you're at it, you may as well give your


Blah blah blah.

Basically uou're arguing for outsourcing, but in the way that costs the
taxpayer the maximum amount possible while lowering their standard of living.

It's amazing that the standards of immigration have been completely
discarded for one demographic, and they are the most costly, and the costs
will grow.

There's a real reason for those laws, and has nothing to do with oppressing
foreign nationals.

Tracey12

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Oct 29, 2012, 7:18:50 PM10/29/12
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On Oct 29, 1:17 pm, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Which comment just goes to show how you lot think in stereotypes
> only.  Apparently, the phenomenal growth of American citizens of
> Latio extraction has very much passed you by in your obsession
> with illegals.

It would be interesting to know just how many "latinos", or Americans
with ancestry from south of the border nations there really are.

I do believe, but I dont have the facts at hand to support this, but I
believe that the majority of "latinos" in America are either totally
illegal, or the products of illegals who have busted in our doors over
the past couple of decades when illegal immigration has been at its
peak.

Certainly, there is no reason to be angry with Americans of any skin
color, or race. But Americans have every right to be angry about
illegal immigration and those who are illegal and their supporters.

hypatiab7

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Oct 29, 2012, 8:36:50 PM10/29/12
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On Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:44:38 PM UTC-4, RedDog wrote:
> On Oct 28, 11:30 pm, hypatiab7 <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 27, 2012 9:12:42 PM UTC-4, Beavis wrote:
> > > On Oct 28, 1:05 am, hypatiab7 <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:00:56 PM UTC-4, linuxgal wrote:
> > > > > Stanislaus Stewart wrote:
>
> > > > > >    You should check out the campaigning. When Romney speaks, its to
> > > > > > 99.99% whites. When Obama speaks you have a rainbow coalition,
> > > > > > all colors. At the RNC convention I saw, on TV just two blacks.
>
> > > > > I don't look at the color of the skin of supporters, but the content of their character, because I have the same dream as that famous Republican
>
> > > > Nothing new in Republicans claiming Democrats as one of theirs.
>
> > > > It shows how desperate they are about how rotten and incompetent
>
> > > > their current leaders are.
>
> > > King was a Republican, Mickey, and that's a fact.  Do you understand
> > > the historical perspective, or do you need somebody to explain it to
> > > you?

>
> > 60 or 70 years ago? Sure. He became a Democrat around the same time the Southern Dems became Republicans. So?
>
> King was never a Democrat, Hypatia, and since he (unfortunately) died
> less than 50 years ago, WTF is wrong with your arithmetic? (I mean, I
> always knew you were dumb, but THIS dumb???)

King said himself that he always voted Democratic and would have
endorsed President Kennedy if he had lived to run for re-election.
This is backed up by his Autobiography and Papers. Also, King
started voting in 1950. That was 62 years ago. Perhaps you are the
one with an intelligence problem. Or maybe you are simply a bully
who doesn't like being proved wrong about anything..

Frank Galikanokus

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Oct 29, 2012, 8:50:39 PM10/29/12
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The democrats had 2 years. In that time they passed Healthcare Reform
and began the process of re-regulation the finical marks, ended the war
in Iraq that cost the lives of more than 4 thousand of our troops and
over 100 thousand innocent people. A war that had no justification. We
were suckered into this war by the republican feeding the nation lies
and hate. In the 2 years since then the republicans nearly brought down
our economy, prevented any significant legislation passing and a
minority of them in the Senate have brought the work of our government
to a halt. The republicans of the previous administration wiped out a
surplus and rack up the largest deficit in U.S. history with 2 wars, the
poison pill of a Medicare prescription "benefit" and tax cuts for people
that didn't need one. The democrats added to the deficit by spending our
money on people, the republicans deficit spending was used to kill
people.


>
> BUT all your ilk can come up with is "the wealthy are too rich" and "hate
> and ignorance". BULLSHIT WORDS and phrases to pacify you proles.
>
> Say "Bah-haa-haaaa", sheep...

The Bush tax cuts for "job creators" have been in effect for a while
now, where are the jobs? How many more times does this nation have to go
through the disaster of trickle down, supply side, voodoo economics?
This has been proven to be a failure and has wrecked our economy 3 times
in the last century.

Do you pay any attention to the hate, lies, and ignorance that the
republicans have been broadcasting on TV, radio, and on the internet?

Do you recall why the 20th century is called the American Century? Do
you remember when the U.S. became the greatest nation on earth? How
about when our public education system was the envy of the world? Maybe
you can remember when we had the highest standard of living in the
world?

It was when democrats dominated federal and state governments from the
1930s the the 1970s.

JAM

Tracey12

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Oct 29, 2012, 9:27:46 PM10/29/12
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On Oct 29, 7:50 pm, Frank Galikanokus <FrankGalikano...@nospam.net>
wrote:
> George Kerby wrote:
>
> > On 10/28/12 9:27 PM, in article 508DE9A2.473EE...@nospam.net, "Frank
> > Galikanokus" <FrankGalikano...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
> > > George Kerby wrote:
>
> > >> On 10/28/12 10:16 AM, in article 508D4C5F.C787A...@nospam.net, "Frank
> > >> Galikanokus" <FrankGalikano...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
> > >>> Al wrote:
>
> > >>>> In article <508CAECB.538B1...@nospam.net>,
Manifest Destiny. Not democrats.

Frank Galikanokus

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Oct 29, 2012, 11:03:06 PM10/29/12
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Manifest Destiny was the belief in the 1800s that the United States was
destined to expand across the continent.

You cannot even get the century correct let alone understand the
concept.

JAM

Don Martin

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:10:37 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Most of not all produce can be harvested by machine. Producers won't make
>that capital investment when they have cheap labor that receives more in
>benefits than pay.

While we have harvesting machines for durable crops (grains, potatoes,
dry corn, cotton) can you point us to machines that successfully
harvest _fresh_ fruits and vegetables, like strawberries, tomatoes,
sweet corn, asparagus. lettuce, etc., or even tobacco? Working URLs
will do nicely, thanks.

Alex W.

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Oct 30, 2012, 8:25:28 PM10/30/12
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:22:44 -0500, Don Martin wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:10:37 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Most of not all produce can be harvested by machine. Producers won't make
>>that capital investment when they have cheap labor that receives more in
>>benefits than pay.
>
> While we have harvesting machines for durable crops (grains, potatoes,
> dry corn, cotton) can you point us to machines that successfully
> harvest _fresh_ fruits and vegetables, like strawberries, tomatoes,
> sweet corn, asparagus. lettuce, etc., or even tobacco? Working URLs
> will do nicely, thanks.

The Dutch have mechanised harvesting for tomatoes, I believe.
Although they first had to breed hard-skinned tomatoes that would
survive the experience. The downside of that is that Dutch
tomatoes are renowned throughout Europe as cheap but almost
entirely tasteless. Shops have taken to selling them with their
stalks still attached (for added smell) and even with spraying
artificial "tomato" scent in order to fool customers into
believing they were buying a tasty vegetable.

FWIW, cotton-picking was not successfully mechanised until after
WWII.

Don Martin

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Oct 31, 2012, 8:45:53 AM10/31/12
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Cotton was the last of the major crops to be mechanized. In the American
south, this event fuelled the civil rights movement: all of a sudden
blacks, who had formerly enjoyed the job security of peasants, were
unemployed and collected in the towns in larger numbers to compare notes
about their generally shitty treatment. As soon as they moved off the
plantations, the owners thereof destroyed the shacks on their home places
of 1.5 acres and converted that acreage to cotton production. The blacks
who remained on these home places were not evicted and could extract a
subsistence from that 1.5 acres (in the Mississippi Delta, you can get
three crops a year of veggies to sustain chickens, a pig or two, and a
family on that bit of land): the south is nothing if not traditional about
"the family's blacks."

The displaced peasantry in town got increasingly desperate and repeated the
unrest and uprisings that similar populations elsewhere had demonstrated
during the Industrial Revolution, but in an age of mass media were more
visible to the rest of the country. The north was sympathetic to the
plight of the blacks in the south, as was willing to support them _there_
if only to keep them from moving north. Legislation was passed, and the
rest is, as they say, history.
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