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Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 23, 2012, 5:57:34 AM5/23/12
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And athiest hate God.

Waldo Tunnel

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May 23, 2012, 6:26:55 AM5/23/12
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And baldness is a hairdo.



Devils Advocaat

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May 23, 2012, 7:55:05 AM5/23/12
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On May 23, 10:57 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> And athiest hate God.

How about you provide a verbatim quote from a genuine atheist who has
actually said that they hate your alleged deity.

And how about you provide a reliable source that confirms your claim
that atheism is a religion.

By reliable, I mean unbiased, honest and easily verified as to it's
veracity.

Catpain 'Merca

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May 23, 2012, 1:09:56 PM5/23/12
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"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in
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> And athiest hate God.
>

One wonders if this posting is from a Zach forger, because by now the
multiple times this fallacy has been pointed out and explained to Zach should
have pentrated even his thick skull.

Catpain 'Merca
--
.

Mike Lovell

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May 23, 2012, 1:17:13 PM5/23/12
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On 2012-05-23, Catpain 'Merca <catpai...@nospam.net> wrote:
> One wonders if this posting is from a Zach forger, because by now the
> multiple times this fallacy has been pointed out and explained to Zach should
> have pentrated even his thick skull.
>
> Catpain 'Merca

Zach has been spoofed, but because of the provider the spoof is a lot
harder to detect.

Kill fill name/email will get all of them of course!

--
Jews, Christians & Muslims
The content of your posts will show how much you
really believe God is looking over your shoulder

Christopher A. Lee

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May 23, 2012, 1:53:05 PM5/23/12
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Anybody who says that about atheists is a liar or an idiot. Often
both.

And when it's a lie it marks the person doing it as a hate crime
wannabe.

If they say it to atheists it shows they are at least borderline
psychopathic, because they know we disagree with it so why say it
about us, to us?

Christopher A. Lee

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May 23, 2012, 1:54:40 PM5/23/12
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On Wed, 23 May 2012 12:17:13 -0500, Mike Lovell
<mike....@null.local> wrote:

>On 2012-05-23, Catpain 'Merca <catpai...@nospam.net> wrote:
>> One wonders if this posting is from a Zach forger, because by now the
>> multiple times this fallacy has been pointed out and explained to Zach should
>> have pentrated even his thick skull.
>>
>> Catpain 'Merca
>
>Zach has been spoofed, but because of the provider the spoof is a lot
>harder to detect.
>
>Kill fill name/email will get all of them of course!

It doesn't matter whether or not it is the "real" fishmug, either way
he is an obsessive bigot stalking a minority he hates.

Mike Lovell

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May 23, 2012, 2:01:07 PM5/23/12
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On 2012-05-23, Christopher A Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
> It doesn't matter whether or not it is the "real" fishmug, either way
> he is an obsessive bigot stalking a minority he hates.

A bigot stalking a minority --- And he's a Christian??? No, no, I won't
hear it. Impossible.

Christopher A. Lee

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May 23, 2012, 2:14:33 PM5/23/12
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On Wed, 23 May 2012 13:01:07 -0500, Mike Lovell
<mike....@null.local> wrote:

>On 2012-05-23, Christopher A Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> It doesn't matter whether or not it is the "real" fishmug, either way
>> he is an obsessive bigot stalking a minority he hates.
>
>A bigot stalking a minority --- And he's a Christian??? No, no, I won't
>hear it. Impossible.

If it were any other minority it would be a hate crime in the US.

Brian E. Clark

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May 23, 2012, 5:17:46 PM5/23/12
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In article
<slrnjrq6sp.53...@usenet.home.b0h0.com>,
mike....@null.local says...

> Zach has been spoofed, but because of the provider the spoof is a lot
> harder to detect.

If a spoofer spoofs a spoof, does that make the resulting
post earnest? And how would that result look in symbolic
logic?

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Brian E. Clark

tirebiter

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May 23, 2012, 5:21:16 PM5/23/12
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On May 23, 5:57 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> And athiest hate God.

What s this word "athiest" you keep using?

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a.a. #2273

Mike Lovell

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May 23, 2012, 5:51:19 PM5/23/12
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On 2012-05-23, Brian E Clark <brian...@newsgroup.reply.only> wrote:
>> Zach has been spoofed, but because of the provider the spoof is a lot
>> harder to detect.
>
> If a spoofer spoofs a spoof, does that make the resulting
> post earnest? And how would that result look in symbolic
> logic?

I'll go for algebraic, I reckon, 'x' being spoof:

== x + (-x)
== 0

The spoofer of the spoof, cancels the original spoof out.

It looks like when spoof collides with anti-spoof they annihilate each
other. Releasing a lot of energy, in the form of rage.

The reaction could take many years though.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 23, 2012, 6:52:14 PM5/23/12
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"Mike Lovell" <mike....@null.local> wrote in message
news:slrnjrq9f3.53...@usenet.home.b0h0.com...
> On 2012-05-23, Christopher A Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> It doesn't matter whether or not it is the "real" fishmug, either way
>> he is an obsessive bigot stalking a minority he hates.
>
> A bigot stalking a minority --- And he's a Christian??? No, no, I won't
> hear it. Impossible.

I'm not stalking anybody. I'm trying to save your souls. And I've saved 19
souls so far from this chat board.

Mike Lovell

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May 23, 2012, 7:02:37 PM5/23/12
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On 2012-05-23, Zacharias Mulletstein <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>> It doesn't matter whether or not it is the "real" fishmug, either way
>>> he is an obsessive bigot stalking a minority he hates.
>>
>> A bigot stalking a minority --- And he's a Christian??? No, no, I won't
>> hear it. Impossible.
>
> I'm not stalking anybody. I'm trying to save your souls. And I've saved 19
> souls so far from this chat board.

Who?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking
"Cyberstalking is the use of the Internet or other electronic means
to stalk or harass an individual, a group of individuals, or an
organization. It may include false accusations, monitoring, making
threats, identity theft, damage to data or equipment, the
solicitation of minors for sex, or gathering information in order to
harass"

You boy are a cyber-stalker. Oh and a troll.

Joe Bruno

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May 23, 2012, 8:10:48 PM5/23/12
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On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:57:34 AM UTC-7, Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:
> And athiest hate God.

I would tend to agree with you.Since the atheists assert that G=d does not exist and they cannot prove it, their position is based on faith.
That makes it a religion.

What is dangerous about their position is that they disobey G-d.
If they are wrong and He does exist, they are risking serious consequences.

Long live Serbia:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtFfU7MFtzQ

Joe Bruno

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May 23, 2012, 8:15:17 PM5/23/12
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On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:57:34 AM UTC-7, Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:
> And athiest hate God.

I would tend to agree with you.Since the atheists assert that G-d does not exist but they cannot prove it, their position is based on faith. That makes it a religion.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 23, 2012, 8:56:40 PM5/23/12
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"Mike Lovell" <mike....@null.local> wrote in message
news:slrnjrqr4d.53...@usenet.home.b0h0.com...
> On 2012-05-23, Zacharias Mulletstein
> <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>>>> It doesn't matter whether or not it is the "real" fishmug, either way
>>>> he is an obsessive bigot stalking a minority he hates.
>>>
>>> A bigot stalking a minority --- And he's a Christian??? No, no, I won't
>>> hear it. Impossible.
>>
>> I'm not stalking anybody. I'm trying to save your souls. And I've saved
>> 19
>> souls so far from this chat board.

Why? So you can send them death threats?

Mike Lovell

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May 23, 2012, 9:10:40 PM5/23/12
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On 2012-05-24, Zacharias Mulletstein <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> Why? So you can send them death threats?

I send people death threats?

No, so your figures can be confirmed, lets see the message ID's

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 23, 2012, 9:26:05 PM5/23/12
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> On 2012-05-24, Zacharias Mulletstein <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> Why? So you can send them death threats?
>
> I send people death threats?
>
> No, so your figures can be confirmed, lets see the message ID's

They died of AIDS

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 23, 2012, 10:02:54 PM5/23/12
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"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in
message news:slrnjrr3hd.ae4.za...@world.is.local...
Great, I have a clone.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 23, 2012, 10:05:23 PM5/23/12
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So do I

Joe Bruno

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May 23, 2012, 11:14:53 PM5/23/12
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Hate crime???????

(1)A hate crime is one motivated by race,ethnic group,religion,sexual orientation or gender.

(2)Atheists are not a race, ethnic group,sexual orientation or gender.

You have therefore agreed that atheism is a religion.
Maybe Zach isn't as dumb as you claim he is.

Since when is a difference of opinion "psychopathic"?I thought it was
enshrined in Western consciouness as free speech.The US Constitution has
a special amendment that guarrantees it.

sbalneav

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May 24, 2012, 12:06:42 AM5/24/12
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Mike Lovell <mike....@null.local> wrote:
> On 2012-05-23, Brian E Clark <brian...@newsgroup.reply.only> wrote:
>>> Zach has been spoofed, but because of the provider the spoof is a lot
>>> harder to detect.
>>
>> If a spoofer spoofs a spoof, does that make the resulting
>> post earnest? And how would that result look in symbolic
>> logic?
>
> I'll go for algebraic, I reckon, 'x' being spoof:
>
> == x + (-x)
> == 0
>
> The spoofer of the spoof, cancels the original spoof out.
>
> It looks like when spoof collides with anti-spoof they annihilate each
> other. Releasing a lot of energy, in the form of rage.
>
> The reaction could take many years though.
>

In honour of Richard Feynman:

S+
\
\
\
\~~~~~~~ R
/
/
/
/
S-

IF YOU'RE NOT VIEWING USENET IN FIXED POINT FONTS, YOU ARE DEAD TO ME.

There are only 2 fonts in the world. Courier-10 for fixed point, and Helvetica
for everthing else. All other fonts are superfluous.

Christopher A. Lee

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May 24, 2012, 12:09:13 AM5/24/12
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Especially the one in a church.

Joe Bruno

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May 24, 2012, 12:18:05 AM5/24/12
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On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:01:07 AM UTC-7, Mike Lovell wrote:
> On 2012-05-23, Christopher A Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
> > It doesn't matter whether or not it is the "real" fishmug, either way
> > he is an obsessive bigot stalking a minority he hates.
>
> A bigot stalking a minority --- And he's a Christian??? No, no, I won't
> hear it. Impossible.
>
> --
Since when is arguing from a great distance considered stalking???????

Zach doesn't even know where you live.

Joe Bruno

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May 24, 2012, 12:15:45 AM5/24/12
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The definition of "stalking" does not include posting on an Internet newsgroup.

In American courts, hate crimes are only crimes of violence motivated by
prejudice against a particular group.The conviction for violent crime must come
first. Then,the District Attorney can ask for a hate crime supplement to the
sentence.If the jury agrees, a maximum of five years can be added to the sentence imposed on the defendant.

Mike Lovell

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May 24, 2012, 12:27:51 AM5/24/12
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On 2012-05-24, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
> IF YOU'RE NOT VIEWING USENET IN FIXED POINT FONTS, YOU ARE DEAD TO ME.

Or if you're using tin.

:-O

sbalneav

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May 24, 2012, 12:41:18 AM5/24/12
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Ba-dum Bum <high hat>

sbalneav

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May 24, 2012, 12:43:15 AM5/24/12
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Mike Lovell <mike....@null.local> wrote:
> On 2012-05-24, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>> IF YOU'RE NOT VIEWING USENET IN FIXED POINT FONTS, YOU ARE DEAD TO ME.
>
> Or if you're using tin.

The one with the Good Netkeeping Seal of Approval!

> :-O

The only thing XWindows is good for is opening more xterms.

Mike Lovell

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May 24, 2012, 1:31:15 AM5/24/12
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On 2012-05-24, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
> Mike Lovell <mike....@null.local> wrote:
>> On 2012-05-24, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>> IF YOU'RE NOT VIEWING USENET IN FIXED POINT FONTS, YOU ARE DEAD TO ME.
>>
>> Or if you're using tin.
>
> The one with the Good Netkeeping Seal of Approval!

Poooo

>> :-O
>
> The only thing XWindows is good for is opening more xterms.

slrn man, slrn, console based. Not an XWindow in sight.

Jeanne Douglas

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May 24, 2012, 1:37:00 AM5/24/12
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In article <jpkc4i$vfc$1...@dont-email.me>, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net>
wrote:
I like "Georgia".

--
JD

"the lybian lier"

Devils Advocaat

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May 24, 2012, 1:55:00 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 3:05 am, Zacharias Mulletstein
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> > "Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:slrnjrr3hd.ae4.za...@world.is.local...
> >>> On 2012-05-24, Zacharias Mulletstein
> >>> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> >>>> Why?  So you can send them death threats?
>
> >>> I send people death threats?
>
> >>> No, so your figures can be confirmed, lets see the message ID's
>
> >> They died of AIDS
>
> > Great, I have a clone.
>
> So do I

I used to have a clone, but he used way too many swear words and was
always cussing.

I threw him off of a cliff and my case comes up next week.

Mike Lovell

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May 24, 2012, 2:11:19 AM5/24/12
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>> On 2012-05-23, Christopher A Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> > It doesn't matter whether or not it is the "real" fishmug, either way
>> > he is an obsessive bigot stalking a minority he hates.
>>
>> A bigot stalking a minority --- And he's a Christian??? No, no, I won't
>> hear it. Impossible.
>>
>> --
> Since when is arguing from a great distance considered stalking???????
>
> Zach doesn't even know where you live.

He's not arguing anything, it definitely fits under "cyberstalking"

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 24, 2012, 3:07:33 AM5/24/12
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"Devils Advocaat" <manky...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b2919471-65c3-4c01...@z19g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> On May 23, 10:57 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
>> And athiest hate God.
>
> How about you provide a verbatim quote from a genuine atheist who has
> actually said that they hate your alleged deity.

Somebody said they hated God on this here chat board the other day.

Yap

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May 24, 2012, 4:05:48 AM5/24/12
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On May 23, 5:57 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> And athiest hate God.

Why?

Where is your pixie for people to hate?

Just one question: "What happened to your pixie when it was needed to
prevent the 9/11?"

Yap

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May 24, 2012, 4:08:54 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 6:52 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Mike Lovell" <mike.lov...@null.local> wrote in message
Who has the soul for you to save?

Yap

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May 24, 2012, 4:13:06 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 9:26 am, Zacharias Mulletstein
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> > On 2012-05-24, Zacharias Mulletstein <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> >> Why?  So you can send them death threats?
>
> > I send people death threats?
>
> > No, so your figures can be confirmed, lets see the message ID's
>
> They died of AIDS

Are they all priests?

Yap

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May 24, 2012, 4:11:29 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 8:10 am, Joe Bruno <ajta...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:57:34 AM UTC-7, Zacharias Mulletstein wrote:
> > And athiest hate God.
>
> I would tend to agree with you.Since the atheists assert that G=d does not exist and they cannot prove it, their position is based on faith.

You mean a pixie is a real thing?

> That makes it a religion.
>
> What is dangerous about their position is that they disobey G-d.

And there is a pixie to obey?
What authority a pixie has? Who gave it authority?

> If they are wrong and He does exist, they are risking serious consequences.

What possibility it can exist when Katrina or hurricanes or 9/11
happened?

>
> Long live Serbia:

Short life Serbia.\
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtFfU7MFtzQ

Yap

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May 24, 2012, 5:20:50 AM5/24/12
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It is not a physical stalking....

>
> Zach doesn't even know where you live.

Shit, how would you know this information, liar?

Joe Bruno

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On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:11:19 PM UTC-7, Mike Lovell wrote:
> >> On 2012-05-23, Christopher A Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> > It doesn't matter whether or not it is the "real" fishmug, either way
> >> > he is an obsessive bigot stalking a minority he hates.
> >>
> >> A bigot stalking a minority --- And he's a Christian??? No, no, I won't
> >> hear it. Impossible.
> >>
> >> --
> > Since when is arguing from a great distance considered stalking???????
> >
> > Zach doesn't even know where you live.
>
> He's not arguing anything, it definitely fits under "cyberstalking"

WRONG.Here is the law from Washington state:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.61.260

Cyberstalking requires threats of violence or obscene language.
>
> --

linuxgal

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May 24, 2012, 7:17:19 AM5/24/12
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Mike Lovell wrote:
> On 2012-05-24, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>> Mike Lovell <mike....@null.local> wrote:
>>> On 2012-05-24, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>>> IF YOU'RE NOT VIEWING USENET IN FIXED POINT FONTS, YOU ARE DEAD TO ME.
>>> Or if you're using tin.
>> The one with the Good Netkeeping Seal of Approval!
>
> Poooo
>
>>> :-O
>> The only thing XWindows is good for is opening more xterms.
>
> slrn man, slrn, console based. Not an XWindow in sight.
>

I've got some console apps online for anyone to use if they have ssh.

http://www.cleanposts.com/index.php/Cliapps

Mitchell Holman

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May 24, 2012, 8:45:28 AM5/24/12
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Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote in
news:45bc1223-f1b9-4b8e...@googlegroups.com:

> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:57:34 AM UTC-7, Zacharias Mulletstein
> wrote:
>> And athiest hate God.
>
> I would tend to agree with you.Since the atheists assert that G-d does
> not exist but they cannot prove it, their position is based on faith.
> That makes it a religion.


So why don't atheists get a religious tax deduction?



Mitchell Holman

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Joe Bruno <ajt...@cox.net> wrote in
news:53f89272-b811-4a4f...@googlegroups.com:

> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:14:33 AM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 May 2012 13:01:07 -0500, Mike Lovell
>> <mike....@null.local> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2012-05-23, Christopher A Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >> It doesn't matter whether or not it is the "real" fishmug, either
>> >> way he is an obsessive bigot stalking a minority he hates.
>> >
>> >A bigot stalking a minority --- And he's a Christian??? No, no, I
>> >won't hear it. Impossible.
>>
>> If it were any other minority it would be a hate crime in the US.
>
> The definition of "stalking" does not include posting on an Internet
> newsgroup.
>
> In American courts, hate crimes are only crimes of violence motivated
> by prejudice against a particular group.The conviction for violent
> crime must come first. Then,the District Attorney can ask for a hate
> crime supplement to the sentence.



Jewish headstones vandalized, could be considered hate crime
Mar 7, 2012
BUSHNELL, Fla. (AP) - Detectives in central Florida are
investigating as a hate crime the vandalism of Jewish
headstones in a veterans' cemetery.

http://tinyurl.com/6w9muxj




tirebiter

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May 24, 2012, 9:41:31 AM5/24/12
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Good luck. The courts can be very strict on people who make an
obscene clone fall.

---
a.a. #2273

Mike Lovell

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Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 24, 2012, 10:30:48 AM5/24/12
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It wasn't me.

Mike Lovell

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May 24, 2012, 10:28:09 AM5/24/12
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Do we all reside in Washington state?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberstalking
"Cyberstalking is the use of the Internet or other electronic means
to stalk or harass an individual, a group of individuals, or an
organization. It may include false accusations, monitoring, making
threats, identity theft, damage to data or equipment, the
solicitation of minors for sex, or gathering information in order to
harass. The definition of "harassment" must meet the criterion that
a reasonable person, in possession of the same information, would
regard it as sufficient to cause another reasonable person
distress.[1] Cyberstalking is different from spatial or offline
stalking. However, it sometimes leads to it, or is accompanied by
it.[2]"

And what is harassment you ask?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment
"Harassment covers a wide range of behaviors of an offensive nature.
It is commonly understood as behaviour intended to disturb or upset,
and it is characteristically repetitive. In the legal sense, it is
intentional behaviour which is found threatening or disturbing.
Sexual harassment refers to persistent and unwanted sexual advances,
typically in the workplace, where the consequences of refusing are
potentially very disadvantageous to the victim."


He's a cyberstalker... Whether he's breaking the law in a single state in
a single country is irrelevant, I never said he was breaking any law.

You say I'm an idiot, well it's not illegal for me to be an idiot
either.

Although I do enjoy the crayon allowance.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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>> > >>> No, so your figures can be confirmed, lets see the message ID's
>>
>> > >> They died of AIDS
>>
>> > > Great, I have a clone.
>>
>> > So do I
>>
>> I used to have a clone, but he used way too many swear words and was
>> always cussing.
>>
>> I threw him off of a cliff and my case comes up next week.
>
> Good luck. The courts can be very strict on people who make an
> obscene clone fall.

This is how you spot the fake Zach. He's violent and without God.

I'm trying to say his soul though.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 24, 2012, 10:32:40 AM5/24/12
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Correction, I do.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 24, 2012, 10:32:57 AM5/24/12
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On 2012-05-24, Yap <hhya...@gmail.com> wrote:
Fox priests.

sbalneav

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May 24, 2012, 11:07:55 AM5/24/12
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Mike Lovell <mike....@null.local> wrote:
> On 2012-05-24, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>> Mike Lovell <mike....@null.local> wrote:
>>> On 2012-05-24, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>>> IF YOU'RE NOT VIEWING USENET IN FIXED POINT FONTS, YOU ARE DEAD TO ME.
>>>
>>> Or if you're using tin.
>>
>> The one with the Good Netkeeping Seal of Approval!
>
> Poooo
>
>>> :-O
>>
>> The only thing XWindows is good for is opening more xterms.
>
> slrn man, slrn, console based. Not an XWindow in sight.

Used to use slrn years ago. I had some problem with it, which escapes me now,
and I moved to tin/rtin. I should give it a try again.

Joe Bruno

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May 24, 2012, 11:02:42 AM5/24/12
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You only get a deduction of you contribute to a recognized charity.

Joe Bruno

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May 24, 2012, 11:03:52 AM5/24/12
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Vandalism is a violent crime.

Mike Lovell

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May 24, 2012, 11:27:01 AM5/24/12
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You should, it's amazingly good.

Especially the scoring system.

sbalneav

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May 24, 2012, 11:33:54 AM5/24/12
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Thanks! Calcurse was a new one for me. Doesn't (yet) support caldav. I might
have to help out with the project.

sbalneav

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May 24, 2012, 11:36:08 AM5/24/12
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No, it's a property crime.

A lawyer should understand that VERY well.

Mike Lovell

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May 24, 2012, 12:05:05 PM5/24/12
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On 2012-05-24, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>> Jewish headstones vandalized, could be considered hate crime
>>> Mar 7, 2012
>>> BUSHNELL, Fla. (AP) - Detectives in central Florida are
>>> investigating as a hate crime the vandalism of Jewish
>>> headstones in a veterans' cemetery.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/6w9muxj
>>
>> Vandalism is a violent crime.
>
> No, it's a property crime.
>
> A lawyer should understand that VERY well.

Could this be another quote Joe Bruno would like to forget :-)

Devils Advocaat

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May 24, 2012, 12:24:00 PM5/24/12
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On May 24, 8:07 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Devils Advocaat" <mankygo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b2919471-65c3-4c01...@z19g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On May 23, 10:57 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> > <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> >> And athiest hate God.
>
> > How about you provide a verbatim quote from a genuine atheist who has
> > actually said that they hate your alleged deity.
>
> Somebody said they hated God on this here chat board the other day.

Which means you cannot defend your claim.

Oh dear.

I guess that means.

You lied.

Devils Advocaat

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May 24, 2012, 12:25:30 PM5/24/12
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But that's not all.

He started screaming before I even touched him.

You'll never guess why?
>
> ---
> a.a. #2273

sbalneav

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May 24, 2012, 12:41:51 PM5/24/12
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Mike Lovell <mike....@null.local> wrote:
> On 2012-05-24, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
>>>> Jewish headstones vandalized, could be considered hate crime
>>>> Mar 7, 2012
>>>> BUSHNELL, Fla. (AP) - Detectives in central Florida are
>>>> investigating as a hate crime the vandalism of Jewish
>>>> headstones in a veterans' cemetery.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/6w9muxj
>>>
>>> Vandalism is a violent crime.
>>
>> No, it's a property crime.
>>
>> A lawyer should understand that VERY well.
>
> Could this be another quote Joe Bruno would like to forget :-)

I think he forgot his supposed law degree.

ilbe...@gmail.com

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May 24, 2012, 11:30:30 AM5/24/12
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On May 23, 4:57 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> And athiest hate God.

God doesnt believe in Atheists. Theres no such thing. Everyone
knows instrincally that a personal theistic Creator is ALWAYS needed
for a personal outcome and entity such as ourselves. Unless a Pet
Rock can display personality traits....mine never did so i tossed it
in the swamp . So far, it hasnt returned or shouted obscenities at
me. Which proves my point....nothing comes out of rocks !

Brian E. Clark

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May 24, 2012, 1:46:54 PM5/24/12
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In article <l2drr7p33g4rpev79...@4ax.com>,
ca...@optonline.net says...

> >There are only 2 fonts in the world. Courier-10 for fixed point, and Helvetica
> >for everthing else. All other fonts are superfluous.
>
> Especially the one in a church.

Is holy water a superfluid?

--
-----------
Brian E. Clark

Joe Bruno

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May 24, 2012, 1:44:13 PM5/24/12
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1.I'm not a lawyer

2.Vandalism is destruction of property. That is a violent process.

In any event, vandalism is one of the crimes that can be punished as a hate crime.Others include murder, arson, battery, and assault.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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May 24, 2012, 1:47:38 PM5/24/12
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> God doesnt believe in Atheists. Theres no such thing. Everyone
> knows instrincally that a personal theistic Creator is ALWAYS needed
> for a personal outcome and entity such as ourselves. Unless a Pet
> Rock can display personality traits....mine never did so i tossed it
> in the swamp . So far, it hasnt returned or shouted obscenities at
> me. Which proves my point....nothing comes out of rocks !

Fox Christian. Jesus will torture you.

Joe Bruno

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May 24, 2012, 1:45:12 PM5/24/12
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Don't have one.

Never finished law school, idiot. I already told you that.

tirebiter

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May 24, 2012, 1:50:10 PM5/24/12
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I'm definitely having trouble with this one. I'm guessing he was an
ice scream clone, but can't quite get it to fit.

---
a.a. #2273

>
> > ---
> > a.a. #2273

sbalneav

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May 24, 2012, 2:48:56 PM5/24/12
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Oh, yeah, that's right, I forgot. You punked out of that, didn't you?

> 2.Vandalism is destruction of property.

Yes.

> That is a violent process.

No. Go read some law books. They did teach you that in the one year you did
complete, didn't they? How to do research?

Here's a hint: there's a reason why laws (especially those derived from the
English Common Law tradition) separate laws into "Crimes against Persons" and
"Crimes against Property". Here's an even bigger hint: Is property fungible
and/or liquid? Are people?

> In any event,

Capitulation noted.

> vandalism is one of the crimes that can be punished as a hate crime.Others include murder, arson, battery, and assault.

Wrong, again.

If you murder someone because of a hate crime, you are not charged with a "hate
crime". You are charged with murder. Depending on your jurisdiction, you may
be ADDITIONALLY charged with "hate crime", if such laws are inscribed in your
criminal code. In other jurisdictions, it may only go towards mitigating
factors in deciding the punishment of the convicted felon.

ANY crime could *potentially* be a hate crime, if the purpose of the crime was
racial in nature.

HOWEVER:

There are certain activities which are protected under 18 USC § 245:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/245

However, the maximum penalties for these is not more than one year.

Mike Lovell

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May 24, 2012, 2:55:14 PM5/24/12
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On 2012-05-24, sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote:
It's nice to see Joe Bruno, who's constantly trying to flaunt his
knowledge of the law and constantly bringing it into situations where it
isn't remotely relevant, schooled like this.

+1

Jeanne Douglas

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May 24, 2012, 3:17:01 PM5/24/12
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In article <jpkmnm$ev1$1...@dont-email.me>,
"Zacharias Mulletstein" <zachariasm...@isalwaysright.com>
wrote:

> "Devils Advocaat" <manky...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b2919471-65c3-4c01...@z19g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> > On May 23, 10:57 am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> > <zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> >> And athiest hate God.
> >
> > How about you provide a verbatim quote from a genuine atheist who has
> > actually said that they hate your alleged deity.
>
> Somebody said they hated God on this here chat board the other day.

Then it should be very easy for you to provide a citation.

--
JD

"the lybian lier"

Jeanne Douglas

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May 24, 2012, 3:16:17 PM5/24/12
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In article
<bd8126a3-bbb2-4ab3...@t35g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Wow. That's delusional and crazy even for you.

sbalneav

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May 24, 2012, 3:25:38 PM5/24/12
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>> There are certain activities which are protected under 18 USC ᅵ 245:
>>
>> http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/245
>>
>> However, the maximum penalties for these is not more than one year.
>
> It's nice to see Joe Bruno, who's constantly trying to flaunt his
> knowledge of the law and constantly bringing it into situations where it
> isn't remotely relevant, schooled like this.
>
> +1

Thanks. It isn't friggin' hard. If Tandy/Bruno attended law school for even a
DAY, he'd know if he's going to spout off about laws, you CITE THE SOURCE. The
US code is WELL documented online.

There's additional US hate crime legislation as well:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/13981

Mitchell Holman

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May 24, 2012, 5:51:05 PM5/24/12
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sbalneav <sbal...@alburg.net> wrote in news:jplkh7$o3k$2...@dont-email.me:
Art flunked out of law school - and it shows.....;)




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