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Nov 21, 2009, 10:31:34 PM11/21/09
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You will never see this type of scandal within the Catholic Church

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6600240/Wealthy-rabbi-accused-of-financing-drug-dealing-business.html


Wealthy Rabbi Accused of Financing Drug Dealing for Sex


A wealthy rabbi financed a drug dealing business and offered cocaine to
girls in exchange for sex, a court heard. Rabbi Baruch Chalomish, 54, rented
an apartment where he could ''relax and have a party'', Manchester Crown
Court heard. When police raided the apartment, and his home in an area of
Salford heavily populated with Orthodox Jews, they discovered a total of 101
grams (3.6oz) of cocaine and more than �17,000 in cash. Prosecutor Michael
Goldwater also told the jury of five men and seven women that Chalomish's
business partner, Nasir Abbas, 54, had failed to turn up for the trial and
is sought by police.

--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com

IAAH

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Nov 21, 2009, 10:46:59 PM11/21/09
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On 11/21/09 10:31 PM, * J wrote:
> You will never see this type of scandal within the Catholic Church

(Regarding the molestation scandal of the last 20
years)

"It was revealed that some bishops had facilitated
compensation payments to alleged victims on
condition that the allegations remained secret. In
addition, rather than being dismissed, the accused
were often instructed to undergo psychological
counseling and, on completion of counseling,
reassigned to other parishes where, in some cases,
they continued to abuse minors."

So, yeah, you're probably right. The Catholic
Church seems far more likely to indulge in hiding
and furthering these sorts of things at the
highest levels rather than actually allowing
justice to take its course.


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is no God. I equally cannot
prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god
may exist; so may the gods of
Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But
no one of these hypotheses is
more probable than any other: they lie outside the
region of even probable
knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to
consider any of them."
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Nov 21, 2009, 11:03:41 PM11/21/09
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:31:34 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
> You will never see this type of scandal within the Catholic Church
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6600240/Wealthy-rabbi-accused-of-financing-drug-dealing-business.html
>
> Wealthy Rabbi Accused of Financing Drug Dealing for Sex
>
> A wealthy rabbi financed a drug dealing business and offered cocaine to
> girls in exchange for sex, a court heard. Rabbi Baruch Chalomish, 54, rented
> an apartment where he could ''relax and have a party'', Manchester Crown
> Court heard. When police raided the apartment, and his home in an area of
> Salford heavily populated with Orthodox Jews, they discovered a total of 101
> grams (3.6oz) of cocaine and more than ?17,000 in cash. Prosecutor Michael
> Goldwater also told the jury of five men and seven women that Chalomish's
> business partner, Nasir Abbas, 54, had failed to turn up for the trial and
> is sought by police.

Channelling der F�hrer again, Junkie?

--
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NEXT GAME: Sunday, November 22 vs. Milwaukee, 4:05

William Smith

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:21:40 AM11/22/09
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J wrote:
> You will never see this type of scandal within the Catholic Church
>
>

Scandals with the Catholic Church involve child molestation and covering
it up. They were known at least as early as 19th century (mentioned in a
book written at the time) and probably much earlier.

Oh, and things like supporting various dictatorships including
celebrating Hitler's birthday - this is not, and never was, a scandal.
Ditto about helping Nazi criminals to escape - never a scandal.
A saintly deed perhaps.

J

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:57:36 AM11/22/09
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"William Smith" <smi...@truth.gov.oc> wrote in message
news:heahp4$igk$2...@news.eternal-september.org...

>J wrote:
>> You will never see this type of scandal within the Catholic Church
>>
>
> Scandals with the Catholic Church involve child molestation and covering
> it up. They were known at least as early as 19th century (mentioned in a
> book written at the time) and probably much earlier.


There are just as many perverts molesting boys in yeshivas than there is
priests molesting them. It's a gay thing, religion plays no part.


> Oh, and things like supporting various dictatorships including
> celebrating Hitler's birthday - this is not, and never was, a scandal.
> Ditto about helping Nazi criminals to escape - never a scandal.
> A saintly deed perhaps.

Why do you think so many Jews survived the war? If the Nazis wanted them
dead, they'd have been killed. They were saved through the efforts of the
Vatican. These lives were saved with the only thing the Vatican could offer,
passports for a handful of high officials. Golda Meir and David Ben-Guerin
knew this well. That's why they hailed His Holiness Pope Pius XII as a hero.

--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com

Honest truth

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:33:02 AM11/22/09
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This is of course newsworthy because of its rarity: Jews have among the
smallest number of such criminals all over the world.

> You will never see this type of scandal within the Catholic Church
>
>
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6600240/Wealthy-rabbi-accused-of-financing-drug-dealing-business.html
>
>
> Wealthy Rabbi Accused of Financing Drug Dealing for Sex
>
>
>
>
> A wealthy rabbi financed a drug dealing business and offered cocaine to
> girls in exchange for sex, a court heard. Rabbi Baruch Chalomish, 54, rented
> an apartment where he could ''relax and have a party'', Manchester Crown
> Court heard. When police raided the apartment, and his home in an area of
> Salford heavily populated with Orthodox Jews, they discovered a total of 101

> grams (3.6oz) of cocaine and more than 嚙瘦17,000 in cash. Prosecutor Michael

> Goldwater also told the jury of five men and seven women that Chalomish's
> business partner, Nasir Abbas, 54, had failed to turn up for the trial and
> is sought by police.


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not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. 嚙皺 If the Jews are rich [these
fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it
is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells
in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to
his own land, he is prevented from doing so.嚙踝蕭

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:33:25 AM11/22/09
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In article <heac7j$e30$2...@news.eternal-september.org>, IAAH
<n...@email.exist> wrote:

> On 11/21/09 10:31 PM, * J wrote:
> > You will never see this type of scandal within the Catholic Church
>
> (Regarding the molestation scandal of the last 20
> years)

** molestation of boys by priests is known to have beeen taking place
>80-years ago. It was a miracle that "God's Holy Church" was able to
avoid justice until 2002.

>
> "It was revealed that some bishops had facilitated
> compensation payments to alleged victims on
> condition that the allegations remained secret.

** Indeed

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:38:27 AM11/22/09
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In article <heahp4$igk$2...@news.eternal-september.org>, William Smith
<smi...@truth.gov.oc> wrote:

** Pius XII apparently helped Nazis escape from Europe after WW-2 because
the Nazi movement was opposed by Communists, and
Communism is atheistic.

�R.L.Measures

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:47:34 AM11/22/09
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** Golda Mabovitch Meir and Ben Gurion were dead before the Argentine
Government press conference in February 1992 wherein it was revealed that
Pius XII provided Vatican passports to Nazi war criminals so that they
could escape to Peronist Argentina.

�R.L.Measures

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:48:32 AM11/22/09
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In article <3a79dj....@news.alt.net>, "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:

** Chortle

W.T.S.

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:54:15 AM11/22/09
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"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
news:3a70rn....@news.alt.net...Oh, gee, no! But, what you'll see is the forceable rape of minors on a mass
scale, then the covering up of said crimes and sins, then the protecting of
the perps. Not to mention finantial scandal on a mass scale, the taking of
funds meant for the relief of the poor and disaster victims to bank roll the
Vatican, to mention only a few. Promoting the oppression of women,
promoting the spread of AIDS, the list is rather long. The worst crime
continues to be the seeking of power and wealth by an institution from the
Dark Ages whose _only_ goal is power and wealth at the expense of ordinary
people. The best description of the RCC is a currupt, criminal
organization. Until the common man wises up, the RCC will be a drain on the
lives of everyone on Earth.
Church, bad. Abortion, good.


Alexander

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:04:53 AM11/22/09
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So what? You fucking Jews murdered millions in an insane Bolshevik drive
for world dominance. You bastards even murdered the Christians that
supported you. Those war crimes trials were a farce. Most of those
people were patriotic Germans that served valiantly in their countries
military. Hell, if we used your standards, we would be executing 90% of
the murderous IDF. Which really is a good idea to bring a lasting peace
to the ME. Jewish storm troupers and nuclear weapons should be destroyed
in Israel.
>

Alexander

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:09:27 AM11/22/09
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Thats a damned good reason right there to finish the job. A white
Russian General stated: Where you find a Jew, you find a Bolshevik.
Where you find a Bolshevik, you find a Jew. Bolshevik and Communist
are one and the same. Bolshevik Jews murdered 55 million Russians and 8
million Ukrainians. Not to mention the millions more they/you are
responsible for the Jewish hand in starting 2 world wars for fun and profit.
>

�R.L.Measures

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:57:58 AM11/22/09
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In article <7msk6jF...@mid.individual.net>, Alexander
<Alex...@thegreat.org> wrote:

� In the early 1960s I kew a guy named Robert Alexander who lived on
Meigs Rd. in Santa Barbara who was a rabid anti-Semite. Could this be
dejav u?

>You fucking Jews murdered millions in an insane Bolshevik drive
> for world dominance. You bastards even murdered the Christians that
> supported you. Those war crimes trials were a farce. Most of those
> people were patriotic Germans that served valiantly in their countries
> military. Hell, if we used your standards, we would be executing 90% of
> the murderous IDF. Which really is a good idea to bring a lasting peace
> to the ME. Jewish storm troupers and nuclear weapons should be destroyed
> in Israel.
> >

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�R.L.Measures

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:58:57 AM11/22/09
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In article <7mskf5F...@mid.individual.net>, Alexander
<Alex...@thegreat.org> wrote:

� bananas

Kenny McCormack

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:14:03 AM11/22/09
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In article <r-2211090...@10.0.1.7>, R.L.Measures <r...@somis.org> wrote:
...

>** Golda Mabovitch Meir and Ben Gurion were dead before the Argentine
>Government press conference in February 1992 wherein it was revealed that
>Pius XII provided Vatican passports to Nazi war criminals so that they
>could escape to Peronist Argentina.

Not that I am disagreeing with your point-of-view on this discussion,
but, to be fair, isn't it true that everyone knew about it well before
the press conference? I.e., everybody (who was at all tuned in) knew
about the ratlines pretty much from when it happened.

These government press conferences always come several decades later,
and serve (the very noble and important) function of finally saying
officially what everyone knew all along. I'm waiting patiently for the
US government to admit to its role in the Kennedy assasination. I
almost thought we were there when E Howard Hunt died recently. Maybe we
just need one or two more key people to die.

�R.L.Measures

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:17:45 PM11/22/09
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In article <hebkfr$jdr$1...@news.xmission.com>, gaz...@shell.xmission.com
(Kenny McCormack) wrote:

> In article <r-2211090...@10.0.1.7>, R.L.Measures <r...@somis.org> wrote:
> ...
> >** Golda Mabovitch Meir and Ben Gurion were dead before the Argentine
> >Government press conference in February 1992 wherein it was revealed that
> >Pius XII provided Vatican passports to Nazi war criminals so that they
> >could escape to Peronist Argentina.
>
> Not that I am disagreeing with your point-of-view on this discussion,
> but, to be fair, isn't it true that everyone knew about it well before
> the press conference? I.e., everybody (who was at all tuned in) knew
> about the ratlines pretty much from when it happened.
>

** All were guessing until Feb. 1992. After that everyone knew.

> These government press conferences always come several decades later,
> and serve (the very noble and important) function of finally saying
> officially what everyone knew all along. I'm waiting patiently for the
> US government to admit to its role in the Kennedy assasination.

** My guess is that it was a J. Edgar Hoover project. The reason JFK had
to go was because Attorney General RFK was going full throttle after the
Mafia and the best way to stop him was to assassinate his brother. The
reason Hoover needed to protect the Mafia was because Meyer Lansky had the
foresight to arrange for taking a camera obscura picture of Hoover in
flagrante delicto with his boyfriend Clyde Tolson in a Miami Beach Hotel.


> almost thought we were there when E Howard Hunt died recently. Maybe we
> just need one or two more key people to die.

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Syd M.

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:40:21 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 21, 10:31 pm, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> You will never see this type of scandal within the Catholic Church
>

Bullshit.

PDW

LC

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:45:47 PM11/22/09
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Another Saturday night with nothing but trolling on his agenda, "J"
<Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message news:3a70rn....@news.alt.net...

> You will never see this type of scandal within the Catholic Church

1.5/10 on the troll-o-meter.

�R.L.Measures

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:20:38 PM11/22/09
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In article
<8895c92c-6b29-408f...@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, "Syd
M." <pdwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Nov 21, 10:31=A0pm, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> > You will never see this type of scandal within the Catholic Church
> >
>
> Bullshit.
>
> PDW

** 0.23% of the settlement paid to sexually abused children in the
Archdioceses of Los Angeles went to girls and 99.77% went to boys.

J

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:23:35 PM11/22/09
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"Honest truth" <Honest...@Wisdom.net> wrote in message
news:5eet3z1r2i9q$.99ki72p9cr1l$.dlg@40tude.net...

> This is of course newsworthy because of its rarity: Jews have among the
> smallest number of such criminals all over the world.
>
>


The entire state of Israel is a criminal entity, in light of their behaviour
towards the Palestinians. Anywhere the IDF occupies there is reports of
forced prostitution and wanton drug abuse. "Rarity"? Ask the citizens of
Lebanon about Jewish criminal activity.

>> You will never see this type of scandal within the Catholic Church
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6600240/Wealthy-rabbi-accused-of-financing-drug-dealing-business.html
>>
>>
>> Wealthy Rabbi Accused of Financing Drug Dealing for Sex
>>


--
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Lefty

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:11:22 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 21, 10:31 pm, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> You will never see this type of scandal within the Catholic Church. We only have scandals that involve boy-fucking and the cover-ups of same.
>Imagine the nerve of this guy, having sex with girls instead of boys. What a weirdo!

> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6600240/Wealthy-rabbi-accused-...


>
> Wealthy Rabbi Accused of Financing Drug Dealing for Sex
>
> A wealthy rabbi financed a drug dealing business and offered cocaine to
> girls in exchange for sex, a court heard. Rabbi Baruch Chalomish, 54, rented
> an apartment where he could ''relax and have a party'', Manchester Crown
> Court heard. When police raided the apartment, and his home in an area of
> Salford heavily populated with Orthodox Jews, they discovered a total of 101
> grams (3.6oz) of cocaine and more than £17,000 in cash. Prosecutor Michael
> Goldwater also told the jury of five men and seven women that Chalomish's
> business partner, Nasir Abbas, 54, had failed to turn up for the trial and
> is sought by police.
>
> --
> J Young

> Jvisi...@live.com

W.T.S.

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"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
news:3a9kop....@news.alt.net...

> "Honest truth" <Honest...@Wisdom.net> wrote in message
> news:5eet3z1r2i9q$.99ki72p9cr1l$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> This is of course newsworthy because of its rarity: Jews have among the
>> smallest number of such criminals all over the world.
> The entire state of Israel is a criminal entity, in light of their
> behaviour towards the Palestinians. Anywhere the IDF occupies there is
> reports of forced prostitution and wanton drug abuse. "Rarity"? Ask the
> citizens of Lebanon about Jewish criminal activity.
"J" is a lying sack of shit. Either that, or he can't tell the difference
between truth and fiction, or between right and wrong.


William Smith

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:11:55 AM11/23/09
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J wrote:
> "William Smith" <smi...@truth.gov.oc> wrote in message
> news:heahp4$igk$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> J wrote:
>>> You will never see this type of scandal within the Catholic Church
>>>
>> Scandals with the Catholic Church involve child molestation and covering
>> it up. They were known at least as early as 19th century (mentioned in a
>> book written at the time) and probably much earlier.
>
>
> There are just as many perverts molesting boys in yeshivas than there is
> priests molesting them.

You wish. Evidence is to the contrary.

> It's a gay thing, religion plays no part.

It's celibacy thing, silly.


>
>
>
>> Oh, and things like supporting various dictatorships including
>> celebrating Hitler's birthday - this is not, and never was, a scandal.
>> Ditto about helping Nazi criminals to escape - never a scandal.
>> A saintly deed perhaps.
>
>
>
> Why do you think so many Jews survived the war? If the Nazis wanted them
> dead, they'd have been killed.

Because the Nazis have been defeated. If that had not happened Nazis
would get them all.

> They were saved through the efforts of the
> Vatican. These lives were saved with the only thing the Vatican could offer,
> passports for a handful of high officials.

You mean passports for high officials of Nazi government? Yes, we know
that.

Golda Meir and David Ben-Guerin
> knew this well. That's why they hailed His Holiness Pope Pius XII as a hero.
>

It's politics. Israel can ill afford total alienation of Vatican.

LC

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:26:08 AM11/23/09
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Ku Klux Kook "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
news:3a9kop....@news.alt.net...

> "Honest truth" <Honest...@Wisdom.net> wrote in message
> news:5eet3z1r2i9q$.99ki72p9cr1l$.dlg@40tude.net...

>> This is of course newsworthy because of its rarity: Jews have among the
>> smallest number of such criminals all over the world.

> The entire state of Israel is a criminal entity, in light of their
> behaviour towards the Palestinians. Anywhere the IDF occupies there is
> reports of forced prostitution and wanton drug abuse. "Rarity"? Ask the
> citizens of Lebanon about Jewish criminal activity.

Or just ask insane "J":

"America, with the exception of the jews and niggers, are not a
nation of pigs."
From: "J" <b...@ass.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:18:20 -0500
Message-ID: <1f4mfa....@news.alt.net>


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