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Let's see how funny it is in six months when Obama fucks his voters up the ass.

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Steve Fox

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Nov 8, 2012, 2:24:16 AM11/8/12
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You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
thing?

hypatiab7

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Nov 8, 2012, 2:56:24 AM11/8/12
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On Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:24:33 AM UTC-5, Steve Fox wrote:
> You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
> thing?

Awww, poor baby. You lost. Now, make like
an adult and learn to live with this.

Ubiquitous

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Nov 8, 2012, 4:54:00 AM11/8/12
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nob...@slug.sluggish.net wrote:

>You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>thing?

That's the thing about Obama's plan to destroy this country he failed to
take into account. The results are non-partisian.

And you posted this off-topic article here because?

--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the
iceberg a second time."

RogerN

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Nov 8, 2012, 6:49:50 AM11/8/12
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"Steve Fox" wrote in message
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>
>You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>thing?
>

The night of the election ABC News kept commenting on how accurate Obama's
committee predictions were and how Romney's was off. Perhaps the Obama
administration fixed the election? It wouldn't be the first time the
Democrats used voter fraud for Obama. Left wing groups, including an ACORN
group, requested U.N. monitors overseeing our election is some states, some
dictator in another country was supposedly concerned about our elections.

RogerN


cloud dreamer

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:12:16 AM11/8/12
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Oh the ACORN thing again. Why don't you actually check out what
happened. A canvasser falsified data. ACORN REPORTED HIM.

He wasn't found out by a third party. They self-reported the abuse.

But by law, they're still required to submit the data he collected.

Now, why are you not up in arms over the Republican worker who trashed
Democratic data...and was not turned in by his employer.

Why are you not up in arms over Republican poll watchers denying people
access to water????

ACORN wanted observers because your election system doesn't work.
Anywhere where you let the political parties have a hand in registering
voters or monitoring who lines up to vote is broken.

Why are Republicans not pushing for election reform? Because those
things benefit them more than it benefits the Democrats.

..

Davej

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Nov 8, 2012, 10:42:36 AM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 1:24 am, "Steve Fox" <nob...@slug.sluggish.net> wrote:
> You bitches know it's coming.  Why did you do such a stupid
> thing?

He'll limit it to you asshole TeaBaggers. Better move to Canada before
it's too late!

Dano

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Nov 8, 2012, 11:18:37 AM11/8/12
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"Steve Fox" wrote in message
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You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
thing?

==========================================

If you can't even run a decent campaign with 1.7 BILLION dollars...how are
you going to run this broke ass country? Eh genius?

Dano

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Nov 8, 2012, 11:21:02 AM11/8/12
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"RogerN" wrote in message
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=================================================

Oh I see. THAT explains why poor black voters in Florida waited up to THREE
fucking hours to vote the other day.

Sore losers and bigots...THAT'S why Mitt lost.

joseph harvey

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Nov 8, 2012, 11:29:38 AM11/8/12
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On Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:24:33 AM UTC-5, Steve Fox wrote:
> You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>
> thing?

Wish you could enjoy your life,the President certainly is .

tirebiter

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Nov 8, 2012, 11:42:42 AM11/8/12
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I had heard that in the early voting days, there were waits longer than 6
hours, and on Tuesday, people were still in line 3 hours after the polls
closed.

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raven1

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Nov 8, 2012, 11:44:13 AM11/8/12
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LOL! Really sucks to be you.

Malcolm McMahon

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Nov 8, 2012, 11:52:28 AM11/8/12
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On Thursday, 8 November 2012 07:24:33 UTC, Steve Fox wrote:
> You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>
> thing?

I think we're seeing the stages of bereavement. On the first day, very little posting from Republicans - the initial denial stage. Now we're seeing rage. I believe the next phase is grief, then acceptance.

Wonder how long it will take? Wonder if the Republicans will really be able to change? America clearly has.






Neumann

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Nov 8, 2012, 12:02:56 PM11/8/12
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Can you guess why he plans to decrease the defense budget by so much?

Less chance for an armed coup?


Malcolm McMahon

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Nov 8, 2012, 12:54:25 PM11/8/12
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That would be because America is on the edge of bankruptcy.

> Less chance for an armed coup?

Given the age distribution and the relationship to the vote, some of the
old generals might hate Obahma, though being micro managed by the amateur
blind optimists of the Bush administration may make them welcome the
change.

But the majority of the fighting forces are more likely to be liberal
leaning, simply because of their age.

Gunner

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Nov 8, 2012, 2:15:15 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 07:42:36 -0800 (PST), Davej <gal...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Odd...most of us have been telling you Teabaggers the same thing.

Got your move planned yet?

Gunner

--
""The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have
to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That�s why I
became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you
have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to
use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.

Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don�t have
a clue as to political reality.
What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard
workers and convince them that they should support social programs
that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a
little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you
want.

The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic
operative instead of a Republican was because there were more
Democrats that didn�t have a clue than there were Republicans."
James Carvell, DNC operative

Gunner

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Nov 8, 2012, 2:16:25 PM11/8/12
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<VBG>

With luck..someone will ask you how much it sucks, just before they
kick the lawn chair out from under you.

<VBG>

Neumann

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Nov 8, 2012, 2:17:24 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 12:54 PM, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 12:02:56 -0500, Neumann wrote:
>
>> On 11/8/2012 11:52 AM, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 8 November 2012 07:24:33 UTC, Steve Fox wrote:
>>>> You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>>>>
>>>> thing?
>>>
>>> I think we're seeing the stages of bereavement. On the first day, very
>>> little posting from Republicans - the initial denial stage. Now we're
>>> seeing rage. I believe the next phase is grief, then acceptance.
>>>
>>> Wonder how long it will take? Wonder if the Republicans will really be
>>> able to change? America clearly has.
>>
>> Can you guess why he plans to decrease the defense budget by so much?
>>
>
> That would be because America is on the edge of bankruptcy.

That is counter-productive if one were to give it enough thought.

The funding for our armed forces should be the very last thing to be
cut, if at all, especially if we're on the edge of bankruptcy, as you
say we are.

>> Less chance for an armed coup?
>
> Given the age distribution and the relationship to the vote, some of the
> old generals might hate Obahma, though being micro managed by the amateur
> blind optimists of the Bush administration may make them welcome the
> change.

And you're sure you have not been brainwashed into thinking that way?

Who exactly are those "amateur blind optimists" you are referring to?

> But the majority of the fighting forces are more likely to be liberal
> leaning, simply because of their age.

Just not liberal enough to keep them from enlisting and risking their
lives in their fight for freedom.

raven1

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Nov 8, 2012, 2:52:41 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:16:25 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:44:13 -0500, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 02:24:16 -0500 (EST), "Steve Fox"
>><nob...@slug.sluggish.net> wrote:
>>
>>>You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>>>thing?
>>
>>LOL! Really sucks to be you.
>
><VBG>
>
>With luck..someone will ask you how much it sucks, just before they
>kick the lawn chair out from under you.

*Yawn*. Bring it on, Sparky. We don't have much use for lawn chairs in
NYC, and the NYPD is not going to support a ragtag bunch of armed
yahoos against their fellow New Yorkers, no matter what your psychotic
delusions may be.

Dakota

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Nov 8, 2012, 3:02:13 PM11/8/12
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I think they'll be stuck in the anger stage for a long, long time.

Dakota

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Nov 8, 2012, 3:13:33 PM11/8/12
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President Obama does not plan to decrease the defense budget. The
president's 'horses and bayonets' response during the final debate
gave his reasons for maintaining the defense budget at present levels.

Watch it at this link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/horses-and-bayonets-debate-obama-video_n_2004038.html

Malcolm McMahon

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Nov 8, 2012, 3:33:25 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:17:24 -0500, Neumann wrote:

> On 11/8/2012 12:54 PM, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 12:02:56 -0500, Neumann wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/8/2012 11:52 AM, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 8 November 2012 07:24:33 UTC, Steve Fox wrote:
>>>>> You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>>>>>
>>>>> thing?
>>>>
>>>> I think we're seeing the stages of bereavement. On the first day,
>>>> very little posting from Republicans - the initial denial stage. Now
>>>> we're seeing rage. I believe the next phase is grief, then
>>>> acceptance.
>>>>
>>>> Wonder how long it will take? Wonder if the Republicans will really
>>>> be able to change? America clearly has.
>>>
>>> Can you guess why he plans to decrease the defense budget by so much?
>>>
>>>
>> That would be because America is on the edge of bankruptcy.
>
> That is counter-productive if one were to give it enough thought.
>
> The funding for our armed forces should be the very last thing to be
> cut, if at all, especially if we're on the edge of bankruptcy, as you
> say we are.

Well, if you intend to get your money back by armed robbery on the
national scale, but that doesn't work as well, these days, when us Brits
were doing it.


>
>>> Less chance for an armed coup?
>>
>> Given the age distribution and the relationship to the vote, some of
>> the old generals might hate Obahma, though being micro managed by the
>> amateur blind optimists of the Bush administration may make them
>> welcome the change.
>
> And you're sure you have not been brainwashed into thinking that way?

Pretty sure, yes. It's long been observed that if you don't lean to the
left when you're young there's something wrong with your heart, and if
you still do when you're old there's something wrong with your head.

Young people are naturally more optimistic and progressive. As the old
die off they take their prejudices with them.

It's clear that, for example, racism has been a generational thing.

>
> Who exactly are those "amateur blind optimists" you are referring to?
>

Rumsfeld, tops the list.

When a high ranking general tried to bring a bit of realism into the
discussion on the Iraq invasion, into an atmosphere of delusional
"positive thinking" they fired him. The State Department spend years on a
post-invasion plan, based on an extensive analysis of the country. It
implied a successful operation would be expensive, so they tore it up.

Result: A campaign that was orders of magnitude more costly than even the
pessimists calculated. A major reason why America is on it's uppers.

That's a sure-fire way of pissing off professionals. Ignore their advice,
screw things up, then don't apologise afterwards.

>> But the majority of the fighting forces are more likely to be liberal
>> leaning, simply because of their age.
>
> Just not liberal enough to keep them from enlisting and risking their
> lives in their fight for freedom.

The last thing that's incompatible with being liberal is fighting for
your freedom.

It would be interesting to know how the military voted, wouldn't it?


Gunner

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Nov 8, 2012, 3:57:50 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 09:42:16 -0330, cloud dreamer
<reduce...@recycle.com> wrote:

>On 08/11/2012 8:19 AM, RogerN wrote:
>> "Steve Fox" wrote in message
>> news:6ce0c21b9a88f021...@slug.slugish.net...
>>>
>>> You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>>> thing?
>>>
>>
>> The night of the election ABC News kept commenting on how accurate Obama's
>> committee predictions were and how Romney's was off. Perhaps the Obama
>> administration fixed the election? It wouldn't be the first time the
>> Democrats used voter fraud for Obama. Left wing groups, including an ACORN
>> group, requested U.N. monitors overseeing our election is some states, some
>> dictator in another country was supposedly concerned about our elections.
>
>
>Oh the ACORN thing again. Why don't you actually check out what
>happened. A canvasser falsified data. ACORN REPORTED HIM.
>
>He wasn't found out by a third party. They self-reported the abuse.
>
>But by law, they're still required to submit the data he collected.
>
>Now, why are you not up in arms over the Republican worker who trashed
>Democratic data...and was not turned in by his employer.

Actually...he was a contractors employee..and the RNC DID report him.
They called the cops in fact.

>
>Why are you not up in arms over Republican poll watchers denying people
>access to water????

Why are you not up in arms about Acorn PHYSICALLY throwing out
Republcian election observers? It took a judge to get them back in.

>
>ACORN wanted observers because your election system doesn't work.
>Anywhere where you let the political parties have a hand in registering
>voters or monitoring who lines up to vote is broken.

How many convictions of ACORN criminals so far? Somewhere around 250
as I recall. And (1) Republican contractor.
>
>Why are Republicans not pushing for election reform? Because those
>things benefit them more than it benefits the Democrats.
>

How come Democrats use fraud as a normal part of their activities?

Want several hundred cites? Do ya?

Gunner

> ..

Michael A. Terrell

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Nov 8, 2012, 4:11:25 PM11/8/12
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Gunner wrote:
>
> How come Democrats use fraud as a normal part of their activities?


They want to be role models for the Ferengi.

Tom Gardner

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Nov 8, 2012, 4:27:58 PM11/8/12
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"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> =================================================
>
> Oh I see. THAT explains why poor black voters in Florida waited up to
> THREE fucking hours to vote the other day.
>
> Sore losers and bigots...THAT'S why Mitt lost.
>

Kinda'. Ideology looses to free cell phones EVERY TIME! The Republicans
are FOOLS! They should have been more in tune with what the majority of
people want. I'm a registered Democrat and a fiscal conservative...or at
least I was. Fiscal conservatism doesn't work and I'll be dead before it
comes time to pay the piper...so, if you can't beat 'em, JOIN 'em!


Gunner

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Nov 8, 2012, 4:29:31 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:52:41 -0500, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:16:25 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:44:13 -0500, raven1
>><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 02:24:16 -0500 (EST), "Steve Fox"
>>><nob...@slug.sluggish.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>>>>thing?
>>>
>>>LOL! Really sucks to be you.
>>
>><VBG>
>>
>>With luck..someone will ask you how much it sucks, just before they
>>kick the lawn chair out from under you.
>
>*Yawn*. Bring it on, Sparky. We don't have much use for lawn chairs in
>NYC, and the NYPD is not going to support a ragtag bunch of armed
>yahoos against their fellow New Yorkers, no matter what your psychotic
>delusions may be.

NYC? You actually live in the Asshole of the East?

Of course you do. That explains your posting style and content.

<VBG>

Oh yes indeed it does.

LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!!!!!!!!!

PrecisionmachinisT

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Nov 8, 2012, 4:38:24 PM11/8/12
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Obama sold his great grandmother into prostitution !!!

Gunner

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Nov 8, 2012, 4:40:31 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:52:41 -0500, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:16:25 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:44:13 -0500, raven1
>><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 02:24:16 -0500 (EST), "Steve Fox"
>>><nob...@slug.sluggish.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>>>>thing?
>>>
>>>LOL! Really sucks to be you.
>>
>><VBG>
>>
>>With luck..someone will ask you how much it sucks, just before they
>>kick the lawn chair out from under you.
>
>*Yawn*. Bring it on, Sparky. We don't have much use for lawn chairs in
>NYC, and the NYPD is not going to support a ragtag bunch of armed
>yahoos against their fellow New Yorkers, no matter what your psychotic
>delusions may be.

Speaking of Ragtag armed yahoos..hows the murder rate in NYC these
days? Better or worse than Chicagos?

Doesnt seem as though the cops can protect anyone in those two
cities..does it?

Say...look at this!!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/02/chicago-murder-rate-surges-as-new-york-s-drops-to-record-low.html

Oh oh...theres trouble......

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eli-b-silverman/low-crime-rates-nypd-eli-b-silverman-john-a-eterno_b_1772489.html


Manufacturing Low Crime Rates at the NYPD: Reputation Versus Safety
Under Bloomberg and Kelly
Posted: 08/13/2012 10:16 am


The practice of manufacturing artificially low crime rates increased
substantially after 2002 under Mayor Michael Bloomberg and his police
commissioner Raymond Kelly. New research based on interviews with
2,000 retired police officers from the NYPD reveals pervasive,
system-wide corruption of criminal records and police practices. This
research suggests that concern with the department's reputation for
reducing crime, much more than with public safety, drives police
policy.

Mountains of scientific evidence supporting this are explored in The
Crime Numbers Game. The bulk of the book's evidence came from a survey
of 500 retired police officers ranked captain and above, as well as
from in depth interviews with over 40 retired and active officers.

A new survey of former NYPD officers includes 10 police chiefs, 36
inspectors, 63 captains, 262 lieutenants, 382 sergeants, and 1,154
patrol officers and detectives. The survey asked officers if they had
witnessed words being changed in crime reports or observed other
unethical efforts to downgrade serious crimes to lesser offenses.
Using the officers who retired before 1995 as a baseline, the survey
found that 25 percent of those officers had personally observed
unethical crime reporting. Only 28 percent of those who retired
between 1995 and 2001 had observed these activities.

However, in the Kelly/Bloomberg era (2002 and after) over half the
officers -- 51 percent -- had observed the intentional
misclassification of serious crimes as petty offenses and other
unethical practices, typically multiple times. Officers also reported
that since 2002 they had experienced unusually strong pressures from
supervisors to downgrade crimes and keep crime numbers low.

The consequences of downgrading or not reporting crimes can be severe.
For example, in 2010 recently retired Detective Harold Hernandez
revealed to Village Voice reporter Graham Rayman that a series of
sexual assault-robberies in Washington Heights had been downgraded
from serious felonies to misdemeanors. As a result, the NYPD missed
the crime pattern and allowed a sexual predator to remain at large for
at least two months and to commit six more rapes.

More evidence came from numerous NYPD whistleblowers. Since 2010
officers Adrian Schoolcraft, Craig Matthews, Frank Polestro, Adyl
Polanco, and Vanessa Hicks have talked openly to reporters and TV
cameras about the routine downgrading of crimes and the use of illegal
arrest quotas by the NYPD. Not surprisingly, they have been punished
by the department for doing so. Other officers have discussed
confidentially the pressure to keep numbers low with reporters and
researchers (including the authors).

It is important to understand that the official crime rate is a
powerful indicator of crime in New York and a broader gauge of how the
city is doing. The mayor and other officials, the real estate and
tourist industries, and the top brass at the NYPD all have a strong
interest in keeping the crime numbers low.

This research also indicates that the corruption of crime reports is a
consequence of the misuse of Compstat (the NYPD's computerized crime
reporting and mapping system introduced in 1995). Ironically, this
innovative management accountability system, which was designed to
reduce crime, has become twisted. Compstat now serves as a powerful
mechanism to ensure that downgrading permeates the whole department.

At weekly Compstat crime strategy meetings, commanders are held
accountable for crime in their precincts. When used in a
community-oriented and problem-solving fashion, this makes great
sense. But when the upper echelon's ability to keep tabs on the crime
rate and closely monitor officers and precincts is coupled with
pressure to keep crime numbers low, the Compstat system is turned on
its head.

There is now a clear message emanating from the top commanders at
police headquarters: make many stop and frisks, write many summonses,
make many arrests for petty offenses, and downgrade serious crimes. In
other words, the NYPD seeks to keep the serious crime numbers low
while showing lots of officer activity. The NYPD's 50,000 marijuana
arrests, 600,000 summonses, and nearly 700,000 stop and frisks do
little or nothing to make the city safer. Indeed, this unnecessary
activity alienates communities and hurts the NYPD's ability to fight
serious and violent crimes.

This strategy does not involve intelligence gathering, surveillance,
or community involvement -- nor does it make good use of Compstat.
This is a policy created to maintain appearances, not to catch
dangerous criminals. When the NYPD protects and serves its reputation
for reducing crime, it does not protect and serve the people of New
York; these are conflicting priorities.

In the next year New Yorkers have an opportunity to effect change. The
mayoral race is heating up as opposition to the NYPD's racially-biased
stop and frisks, marijuana arrests, and other practices intensifies.
As the New York Times and others have suggested, this is an excellent
time to install a federal monitor or inspector general with powers to
investigate and supervise the NYPD's practices.

_____________
Eli B. Silverman is coauthor of The Crime Numbers Game: Management by
Manipulation and professor emeritus John Jay College of Criminal
Justice.

John A. Eterno is coauthor of The Crime Numbers Game: Management by
Manipulation and professor and associate dean of criminal justice at
Molloy College in Rockville Centre, New York.

Jesse P. Levine is a researcher for the Marijuana Arrest Research
Project and a student at City University of New York School of Law.

Tom Gardner

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"Gunner" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message > NYC? You actually live
in the Asshole of the East?
>
> Of course you do. That explains your posting style and content.
>
> <VBG>
>
> Oh yes indeed it does.
>
> LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Gunner
>

For a New Yorker, he's being extremely nice!


Dakota

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Nov 8, 2012, 4:49:44 PM11/8/12
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Romney supported the Vietnam War but not enough to enlist and risk his
life to fight. Romney got five draft deferments. Dick Cheney got five
deferments. None of Romney's sons have enlisted.

raven1

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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:29:31 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:52:41 -0500, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:16:25 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:44:13 -0500, raven1
>>><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 02:24:16 -0500 (EST), "Steve Fox"
>>>><nob...@slug.sluggish.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>>>>>thing?
>>>>
>>>>LOL! Really sucks to be you.
>>>
>>><VBG>
>>>
>>>With luck..someone will ask you how much it sucks, just before they
>>>kick the lawn chair out from under you.
>>
>>*Yawn*. Bring it on, Sparky. We don't have much use for lawn chairs in
>>NYC, and the NYPD is not going to support a ragtag bunch of armed
>>yahoos against their fellow New Yorkers, no matter what your psychotic
>>delusions may be.
>
>NYC? You actually live in the Asshole of the East?

You mean the financial engine that drives the rest of the world?
Absolutely. Where do you park your trailer, or is it perhaps a
double-wide?

>Of course you do. That explains your posting style and content.

Indeed it does: we generally have college educations here.

---
raven1
aa # 1096
EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
BAAWA Knight

raven1

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Nov 8, 2012, 5:21:41 PM11/8/12
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Probably because part of me feels sorry for his delusional ass.

raven1

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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:40:31 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:52:41 -0500, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:16:25 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:44:13 -0500, raven1
>>><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 02:24:16 -0500 (EST), "Steve Fox"
>>>><nob...@slug.sluggish.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>>>>>thing?
>>>>
>>>>LOL! Really sucks to be you.
>>>
>>><VBG>
>>>
>>>With luck..someone will ask you how much it sucks, just before they
>>>kick the lawn chair out from under you.
>>
>>*Yawn*. Bring it on, Sparky. We don't have much use for lawn chairs in
>>NYC, and the NYPD is not going to support a ragtag bunch of armed
>>yahoos against their fellow New Yorkers, no matter what your psychotic
>>delusions may be.
>
>Speaking of Ragtag armed yahoos..hows the murder rate in NYC these
>days? Better or worse than Chicagos?

Better than any other large city in the US, actually. In fact, it's
one of the safest cities in the world. (With *really* strict gun
control laws too. Imagine that!)

>Doesnt seem as though the cops can protect anyone in those two
>cities..does it?

Yes, it does. Crime is at historic lows in NYC. Has been for well over
a decade. Ray Kelly, the Police Commissioner, is a virtual shoo-in to
be the next Mayor, should he choose to run. Thanks for asking.

Now that I'm done wiping the tears of laughter from my eyes, here's a
clue: don't try to bullshit a New Yorker about their own city. That's
*really* comically stupid.

Dano

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"raven1" wrote in message
news:5qbo98h381ehstst7...@4ax.com...
=========================================

Why are you engaging with that drooling madman? Best to keep one's
distance. You might catch something or other.


Neumann

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On 11/8/2012 3:33 PM, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:17:24 -0500, Neumann wrote:
>
>> On 11/8/2012 12:54 PM, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
>>> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 12:02:56 -0500, Neumann wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/8/2012 11:52 AM, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, 8 November 2012 07:24:33 UTC, Steve Fox wrote:
>>>>>> You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thing?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we're seeing the stages of bereavement. On the first day,
>>>>> very little posting from Republicans - the initial denial stage. Now
>>>>> we're seeing rage. I believe the next phase is grief, then
>>>>> acceptance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wonder how long it will take? Wonder if the Republicans will really
>>>>> be able to change? America clearly has.
>>>>
>>>> Can you guess why he plans to decrease the defense budget by so much?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That would be because America is on the edge of bankruptcy.
>>
>> That is counter-productive if one were to give it enough thought.
>>
>> The funding for our armed forces should be the very last thing to be
>> cut, if at all, especially if we're on the edge of bankruptcy, as you
>> say we are.
>
> Well, if you intend to get your money back by armed robbery on the
> national scale, but that doesn't work as well, these days, when us Brits
> were doing it.

Thankfully, most of us Yankees don't see keeping up a strong national
defense as "armed robbery".

>>>> Less chance for an armed coup?
>>>
>>> Given the age distribution and the relationship to the vote, some of
>>> the old generals might hate Obahma, though being micro managed by the
>>> amateur blind optimists of the Bush administration may make them
>>> welcome the change.
>>
>> And you're sure you have not been brainwashed into thinking that way?
>
> Pretty sure, yes. It's long been observed that if you don't lean to the
> left when you're young there's something wrong with your heart, and if
> you still do when you're old there's something wrong with your head.
>
> Young people are naturally more optimistic and progressive. As the old
> die off they take their prejudices with them.

And are replaced by the maturing youth.

> It's clear that, for example, racism has been a generational thing.

Although the "race card" has been proven to be very effective as a
political
ploy in the last four years.

>> Who exactly are those "amateur blind optimists" you are referring to?
>
> Rumsfeld, tops the list.
>
> When a high ranking general tried to bring a bit of realism into the
> discussion on the Iraq invasion, into an atmosphere of delusional
> "positive thinking" they fired him. The State Department spend years on a
> post-invasion plan, based on an extensive analysis of the country. It
> implied a successful operation would be expensive, so they tore it up.
>
> Result: A campaign that was orders of magnitude more costly than even the
> pessimists calculated. A major reason why America is on it's uppers.
>
> That's a sure-fire way of pissing off professionals. Ignore their advice,
> screw things up, then don't apologise afterwards.

And now, as a matter of course, I would most certainly be interested in
finding
out the main source of your information. Newpaper? Radio? Television?
Local pub?

>>> But the majority of the fighting forces are more likely to be liberal
>>> leaning, simply because of their age.
>>
>> Just not liberal enough to keep them from enlisting and risking their
>> lives in their fight for freedom.
>
> The last thing that's incompatible with being liberal is fighting for
> your freedom.
>
> It would be interesting to know how the military voted, wouldn't it?

Aye!

Jeanne Douglas

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In article <00eb8352-3b49-43ff...@googlegroups.com>,
Monday AND Tuesday nights, some polling places in the Miami area were
open until 1am.

All the Republican efforts at voter suppression seem to have failed.
Whoda guessed?

--
JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

Jeanne Douglas

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Nov 8, 2012, 6:19:42 PM11/8/12
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In article <k7gojv$epn$1...@dont-email.me>,
You mean the defense budget he's increased every year he's been in
office?

Jeanne Douglas

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Nov 8, 2012, 6:23:25 PM11/8/12
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In article <JNKdnYVEsbs2MgbN...@supernews.com>,
cloud dreamer <reduce...@recycle.com> wrote:

> On 08/11/2012 8:19 AM, RogerN wrote:
> > "Steve Fox" wrote in message
> > news:6ce0c21b9a88f021...@slug.slugish.net...
> >>
> >> You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
> >> thing?
> >>
> >
> > The night of the election ABC News kept commenting on how accurate Obama's
> > committee predictions were and how Romney's was off. Perhaps the Obama
> > administration fixed the election? It wouldn't be the first time the
> > Democrats used voter fraud for Obama. Left wing groups, including an ACORN
> > group, requested U.N. monitors overseeing our election is some states, some
> > dictator in another country was supposedly concerned about our elections.
>
>
> Oh the ACORN thing again. Why don't you actually check out what
> happened. A canvasser falsified data. ACORN REPORTED HIM.
>
> He wasn't found out by a third party. They self-reported the abuse.
>
> But by law, they're still required to submit the data he collected.
>
> Now, why are you not up in arms over the Republican worker who trashed
> Democratic data...and was not turned in by his employer.
>
> Why are you not up in arms over Republican poll watchers denying people
> access to water????
>
> ACORN wanted observers because your election system doesn't work.
> Anywhere where you let the political parties have a hand in registering
> voters or monitoring who lines up to vote is broken.
>
> Why are Republicans not pushing for election reform? Because those
> things benefit them more than it benefits the Democrats.

They know they're losing the demographics, so their only response is to
limit access to the vote to all the groups they know are against them.
So much easier to suppress their vote than consider their needs.

Jeanne Douglas

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Nov 8, 2012, 6:23:47 PM11/8/12
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In article <3c2dndWKxKLGuwHN...@scnresearch.com>,
Did you actually think you were being clever when you typed that?

whoyakidding

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Nov 8, 2012, 6:22:48 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:21:04 -0500, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:29:31 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:

>>NYC? You actually live in the Asshole of the East?
>
>You mean the financial engine that drives the rest of the world?
>Absolutely. Where do you park your trailer, or is it perhaps a
>double-wide?

It is in fact a double wide on a foundation. He's posted pictures and
the place is REALLY fucking sad. Furnishings that look like they were
salvaged from the dump, and all the pride of housekeeping of a
homeless person. The funny thing is he has 3 decades of liens because
he's never been able to afford the few hundred per year in property
taxes! All documented here many times but here's a sample photo that
says it all.
https://plus.google.com/photos/104042282269066802602/albums/5530249340297373905/5530249581753681666?banner=pwa

whoyakidding

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Nov 8, 2012, 6:24:38 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:21:04 -0500, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:29:31 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:

>>NYC? You actually live in the Asshole of the East?
>
>You mean the financial engine that drives the rest of the world?
>Absolutely. Where do you park your trailer, or is it perhaps a
>double-wide?

Gunner

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Nov 8, 2012, 6:55:15 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:45:20 -0500, "Tom Gardner" <mars@tacks> wrote:

>
I actually think he is a "she". Or at the least..a he/she

suzeeq

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:03:57 PM11/8/12
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Yahoo news had an article on 'why Mitt lost'. They say that he spent so
much in the primaries that he didn't have enough left for the big vote
relying just on big money donations.

Dakota

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:25:41 PM11/8/12
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And the excuses keep coming.

Tom Gardner

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:37:41 PM11/8/12
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They are a race of heroes to me! (you like sci-fi?)

Tom Gardner

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:43:34 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 8:03 PM, suzeeq wrote:
> Tom Gardner wrote:
>> "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:k7gm5g$u0i$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> ================================================
>>> Oh I see. THAT explains why poor black voters in Florida waited up
>>> to THREE fucking hours to vote the other day.
>>>
>>> Sore losers and bigots...THAT'S why Mitt lost.
>>>
>>
>> Kinda'. Ideology looses to free cell phones EVERY TIME! The
>> Republicans are FOOLS! They should have been more in tune with what
>> the majority of people want. I'm a registered Democrat and a fiscal
>> conservative...or at least I was. Fiscal conservatism doesn't work
>> and I'll be dead before it comes time to pay the piper...so, if you
>> can't beat 'em, JOIN 'em!
>
> Yahoo news had an article on 'why Mitt lost'. They say that he spent so
> much in the primaries that he didn't have enough left for the big vote
> relying just on big money donations.

And I thought he couldn't spend it fast enough. In Ohio, the
commercials were in full saturation mode, none BUT political ads on the
TV. And the robo-calls...oh my GOD! We were getting 30 a day and
another 30 hang-ups. I assume the computer calls a bunch of numbers at
once so the phone worker wouldn't have to wait for the ringing.

Michael A. Terrell

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:44:08 PM11/8/12
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I have over 1000 Science fiction books. A couple hundred movies on
VHS & DVD, and and tracking down & collecting Old Time Radio programs
like Flash Gordon, Tom Corbet Space Cadet & Buck Rogers. I have all but
two books of the English translation of Perry Rhodan that were published
in the US. I'm too old & tired to learn German to read the thousands of
originals.

Tom Gardner

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:45:57 PM11/8/12
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Yep, I feel sorry for part of his delusional ass too!

Tom Gardner

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:47:01 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 6:55 PM, Gunner wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 16:45:20 -0500, "Tom Gardner" <mars@tacks> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Gunner" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message > NYC? You actually live
>> in the Asshole of the East?
>>>
>>> Of course you do. That explains your posting style and content.
>>>
>>> <VBG>
>>>
>>> Oh yes indeed it does.
>>>
>>> LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> Gunner
>>>
>>
>> For a New Yorker, he's being extremely nice!
>>
> I actually think he is a "she". Or at the least..a he/she
>
> Gunner
>
It's not politically correct to even THINK that way!

Michael A. Terrell

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:48:33 PM11/8/12
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I had one woman wake me up to tell me what a great man Obama was, an
wanted to tell me all about his platform. I told her that he was a
moron, and had no platform. She tried again, so I told her that she was
a fool for swallowing his lies, and not to call back and wake me again.
She yelled at me, and hung up. Some women!

Michael A. Terrell

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:50:40 PM11/8/12
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Tom Gardner wrote:
>
> It's not politically correct to even THINK that way!


It's no longer politically correct to think at all.

Tom Gardner

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Seems like Deja-vu

Tom Gardner

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Nov 8, 2012, 8:53:26 PM11/8/12
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On 11/8/2012 5:32 PM, raven1 wrote:

> Now that I'm done wiping the tears of laughter from my eyes, here's a
> clue: don't try to bullshit a New Yorker about their own city. That's
> *really* comically stupid.
>
> ---
> raven1

I REALLY hate driving in NYC...almost as much as Boston but no where
near as much as Chicago.

emoneyjoe

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:29:28 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:21:04 -0500, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:29:31 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:52:41 -0500, raven1
>><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:16:25 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:44:13 -0500, raven1
>>>><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 02:24:16 -0500 (EST), "Steve Fox"
>>>>><nob...@slug.sluggish.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>>>>>>thing?
>>>>>
>>>>>LOL! Really sucks to be you.
>>>>
>>>><VBG>
>>>>
>>>>With luck..someone will ask you how much it sucks, just before they
>>>>kick the lawn chair out from under you.
>>>
>>>*Yawn*. Bring it on, Sparky. We don't have much use for lawn chairs in
>>>NYC, and the NYPD is not going to support a ragtag bunch of armed
>>>yahoos against their fellow New Yorkers, no matter what your psychotic
>>>delusions may be.
>>
>>NYC? You actually live in the Asshole of the East?
>
>You mean the financial engine that drives the rest of the world?

You mean pass money chits around
without actually producing anything?

And call it adding to the GDP?



>Absolutely. Where do you park your trailer, or is it perhaps a
>double-wide?
>
>>Of course you do. That explains your posting style and content.
>
>Indeed it does: we generally have college educations here.
>
>---
>raven1
>aa # 1096
>EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
>BAAWA Knight

So that excuses getting paid for just
showing up and signing in?








suzeeq

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:40:37 PM11/8/12
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Part of it explained he spend some of his campaign time in CA and other
states with wealthy voters and had to cut out some of the more up in the
air spots.

Gunner

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:41:52 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:21:04 -0500, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:29:31 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:52:41 -0500, raven1
>><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:16:25 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:44:13 -0500, raven1
>>>><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 02:24:16 -0500 (EST), "Steve Fox"
>>>>><nob...@slug.sluggish.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>>>>>>thing?
>>>>>
>>>>>LOL! Really sucks to be you.
>>>>
>>>><VBG>
>>>>
>>>>With luck..someone will ask you how much it sucks, just before they
>>>>kick the lawn chair out from under you.
>>>
>>>*Yawn*. Bring it on, Sparky. We don't have much use for lawn chairs in
>>>NYC, and the NYPD is not going to support a ragtag bunch of armed
>>>yahoos against their fellow New Yorkers, no matter what your psychotic
>>>delusions may be.
>>
>>NYC? You actually live in the Asshole of the East?
>
>You mean the financial engine that drives the rest of the world?

I thought you said New York, not Switzerland?

>Absolutely. Where do you park your trailer, or is it perhaps a
>double-wide?

I own my home and my property outright. How much is your lease?

Humm?
>
>>Of course you do. That explains your posting style and content.
>
>Indeed it does: we generally have college educations here.

So what did you major in? 16th Century Art or Applied Basketweaving?

My degree was from Michigan Tech (Houghton) Soumi Soumi!!!!


Next question?

Gunner

>
>---
>raven1
>aa # 1096
>EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
>BAAWA Knight

Gunner

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:44:54 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:32:57 -0500, raven1
Odd...some 300+ killings and 10,000 woundings, 100,000 rapes and
armed robberies up the ass..and you call that "safest city in the
world"?

Snicker...You watch a lot of Seinfeld...dont you?

>
>>Doesnt seem as though the cops can protect anyone in those two
>>cities..does it?
>
>Yes, it does. Crime is at historic lows in NYC. Has been for well over
>a decade. Ray Kelly, the Police Commissioner, is a virtual shoo-in to
>be the next Mayor, should he choose to run. Thanks for asking.

Im curious..why you snipped out the link about the New York cops lying
about the crime rate for 2 decades? Hummmm?
>
>Now that I'm done wiping the tears of laughter from my eyes, here's a
>clue: don't try to bullshit a New Yorker about their own city. That's
>*really* comically stupid.

Dont try to bullshit those who arent blinded by the smog.

<VBG>

Gunner

>
>---
>raven1
>aa # 1096
>EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
>BAAWA Knight

Gunner

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So you do admit to supressing Republican votes!

Gunner

Gunner

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:58:37 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:23:47 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>> >
>> > Why are Republicans not pushing for election reform? Because those
>> > things benefit them more than it benefits the Democrats.
>> >
>>
>> Obama sold his great grandmother into prostitution !!!
>
>Did you actually think you were being clever when you typed that?
>
>--

Grandmother was only one of 3 wives Grandpa Obama had at the same
time. Along with a half dozen concubines.

Kenya..thats legal.

Like West Hollywood and Fire Island

hypatiab7

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Nov 8, 2012, 10:39:58 PM11/8/12
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On Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:42:37 AM UTC-5, Davej wrote:
> On Nov 8, 1:24 am, "Steve Fox" <nob...@slug.sluggish.net> wrote:
>
> > You bitches know it's coming.  Why did you do such a stupid
> > thing?
>
> He'll limit it to you asshole TeaBaggers. Better move to Canada before
> it's too late!

Canada wouldn't have him. He might have better luck moving to Iran. He
seems to want a dictator.

Dakota

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Nov 8, 2012, 11:03:50 PM11/8/12
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Oh my god indeed! Those calls are annoying. I thought they'd never
stop. I received a total of SIX campaign calls this year. Only two of
which were robo calls though. None of the presidential or vice
presidential candidates visited South Dakota. I would have gone to see
Paul Ryan pretend to wash dishes at the local homeless shelter.

Too_Many_Tools

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On Nov 8, 7:04 pm, suzeeq <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
> Tom Gardner wrote:
> > "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> relying just on big money donations.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL...yeah just one more freaking excuse from the conservative
cowards.

The man has HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS,,,,,AND STILL HAS.

If he REALLY WANTED TO BE PRESIDENT, he could downsized his assets,
sold the horse, got rid of the mansions, the cars, the planes...and
like any American who is trying to start a business spend HIS money
for the job effort.

He just didn't want it bad enough...he is just one of his conservative
47% like Little Tommy and Gummer...he wanted it given to him.

TMT

pyotr filipivich

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Nov 9, 2012, 12:06:26 AM11/9/12
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> on Thu, 08 Nov 2012
16:11:25 -0500 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
>
>Gunner wrote:
>>
>> How come Democrats use fraud as a normal part of their activities?
>
> They want to be role models for the Ferengi.

I doubt the Ferengi are as crooked as the DNC. I mean, after
all, the Ferengi are businessmen, not political hacks.


tschus
pyotr

--
pyotr filipivich
Most journalists these days couldn't investigate a missing chocolate cake
at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for,
where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault.

Too_Many_Tools

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Nov 9, 2012, 12:09:15 AM11/9/12
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On Nov 8, 5:24 pm, whoyakidding <whoyakidd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:21:04 -0500, raven1
>
> <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:29:31 -0800, Gunner <gunnera...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >>NYC?  You actually live in the Asshole of the East?
>
> >You mean the financial engine that drives the rest of the world?
> >Absolutely. Where do you park your trailer, or is it perhaps a
> >double-wide?
>
> It is in fact a double wide on a foundation. He's posted pictures and
> the place is REALLY fucking sad. Furnishings that look like they were
> salvaged from the dump, and all the pride of housekeeping of a
> homeless person. The funny thing is he has 3 decades of liens because
> he's never been able to afford the few hundred per year in property
> taxes! All documented here many times but here's a sample photo that
> says it all.https://plus.google.com/photos/104042282269066802602/albums/553024934...

LOL...it's much, much worse now.

Ask the Kern County zoning department.

TMT

Michael A. Terrell

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pyotr filipivich wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> on Thu, 08 Nov 2012
> 16:11:25 -0500 typed in misc.survivalism the following:
> >
> >Gunner wrote:
> >>
> >> How come Democrats use fraud as a normal part of their activities?
> >
> > They want to be role models for the Ferengi.
>
> I doubt the Ferengi are as crooked as the DNC. I mean, after
> all, the Ferengi are businessmen, not political hacks.


The Ferengi trimmed the DNC's list of rules from 666 to 285. :)

emoneyjoe

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Right, it should be tee hee she/he. :-)








SkyEyes

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:32:10 AM11/9/12
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On Nov 8, 4:23 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <JNKdnYVEsbs2MgbNnZ2dnUVZ_rqdn...@supernews.com>,
>  cloud dreamer <reduce.re...@recycle.com> wrote:

> > Why are Republicans not pushing for election reform? Because those
> > things benefit them more than it benefits the Democrats.
>
> They know they're losing the demographics, so their only response is to
> limit access to the vote to all the groups they know are against them.
> So much easier to suppress their vote than consider their needs.

Easier to suppress the vote than it is to come to grips with reality.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

SkyEyes

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:32:56 AM11/9/12
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On Nov 8, 4:23 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <3c2dndWKxKLGuwHNnZ2dnUVZ_gSdn...@scnresearch.com>,

>  "PrecisionmachinisT" <123machin...@notmail.com> wrote:

> > Obama sold his great grandmother into prostitution !!!
>
> Did you actually think you were being clever when you typed that?

He *undoubtedly* did. It's what passes for humor on the political far
right.

SkyEyes

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On Nov 8, 9:03 pm, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/8/2012 7:43 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 11/8/2012 8:03 PM, suzeeq wrote:
> >> Tom Gardner wrote:
> >>> "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Last election - 2010 - I got robo calls as well, from the
Republicans. They still had my mother's name, never mind that she
passed away in 2004. No matter how many times I told them that I was
a liberal democrat and would *not* be voting for any Republicans, they
continued to call back. Would *not* take "no" for an answer.

This year I ditched the land-line for everyday use, and use only my
cell. No robocalls. Bliss.

SkyEyes

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:37:14 AM11/9/12
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He thought he was - you should excuse the term - *entitled* to it.

SkyEyes

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:40:09 AM11/9/12
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Kern County? Oh, that explains *so much*. I lived in Kern County for
11 months. It was the longest decade of my life.

Dakota

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:41:42 AM11/9/12
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I got calls only on my cell phone. My NetTALK Duo VOIP phone has a
local number but must not be on their lists.

SkyEyes

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:43:02 AM11/9/12
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On Nov 8, 2:49 pm, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/8/2012 1:17 PM, Neumann wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 11/8/2012 12:54 PM, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
> >> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 12:02:56 -0500, Neumann wrote:
>
> >>> On 11/8/2012 11:52 AM, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, 8 November 2012 07:24:33 UTC, Steve Fox  wrote:
> >>>>> You bitches know it's coming.  Why did you do such a stupid
>
> >>>>> thing?
>
> >>>> I think we're seeing the stages of bereavement. On the first day,
> >>>> very
> >>>> little posting from Republicans - the initial denial stage. Now we're
> >>>> seeing rage. I believe the next phase is grief, then acceptance.
>
> >>>> Wonder how long it will take? Wonder if the Republicans will
> >>>> really be
> >>>> able to change? America clearly has.
>
> >>> Can you guess why he plans to decrease the defense budget by so much?
>
> >> That would be because America is on the edge of bankruptcy.
>
> > That is counter-productive if one were to give it enough thought.
>
> > The funding for our armed forces should be the very last thing to be
> > cut, if at all, especially if we're on the edge of bankruptcy, as you
> > say we are.
>
> >>> Less chance for an armed coup?
>
> >> Given the age distribution and the relationship to the vote, some of
> >> the
> >> old generals might hate Obahma, though being micro managed by the
> >> amateur
> >> blind optimists of the Bush administration may make them welcome the
> >> change.
>
> > And you're sure you have not been brainwashed into thinking that way?
>
> > Who exactly are those "amateur blind optimists" you are referring to?
>
> >> But the majority of the fighting forces are more likely to be liberal
> >> leaning, simply because of their age.
>
> > Just not liberal enough to keep them from enlisting and risking their
> > lives in their fight for freedom.
>
> And you're sure you have not been brainwashed into thinking that way?
>
> Romney supported the Vietnam War but not enough to enlist and risk his
> life to fight. Romney got five draft deferments. Dick Cheney got five
> deferments. None of Romney's sons have enlisted.

And George Romney, Mitt's father, did not serve, either. The Romneys,
it seems, prefer to "lead from behind." Or, as it's known in the U.S.
military, "they stay in the rear with the gear."

SkyEyes

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:43:38 AM11/9/12
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On Nov 8, 4:19 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <k7gojv$ep...@dont-email.me>,
>
>  Neumann <noneum...@invalid.inv> wrote:
> > On 11/8/2012 11:52 AM, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 8 November 2012 07:24:33 UTC, Steve Fox  wrote:
> > >> You bitches know it's coming.  Why did you do such a stupid
>
> > >> thing?
>
> > > I think we're seeing the stages of bereavement. On the first day, very
> > > little posting from Republicans - the initial denial stage. Now we're
> > > seeing rage. I believe the next phase is grief, then acceptance.
>
> > > Wonder how long it will take? Wonder if the Republicans will really be able
> > > to change? America clearly has.
>
> > Can you guess why he plans to decrease the defense budget by so much?
>
> You mean the defense budget he's increased every year he's been in
> office?

Now, Jeanne. No point in confusing them with facts.

Dakota

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:43:50 AM11/9/12
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If he wanted it bad enough he would have brought his money home from
all the foreign banks.

Gunner

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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 20:48:33 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>Tom Gardner wrote:
>>
>> On 11/8/2012 8:03 PM, suzeeq wrote:
>> > Tom Gardner wrote:
>> >> "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:k7gm5g$u0i$1...@dont-email.me...
>> >>> ================================================
>> >>> Oh I see. THAT explains why poor black voters in Florida waited up
>> >>> to THREE fucking hours to vote the other day.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sore losers and bigots...THAT'S why Mitt lost.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Kinda'. Ideology looses to free cell phones EVERY TIME! The
>> >> Republicans are FOOLS! They should have been more in tune with what
>> >> the majority of people want. I'm a registered Democrat and a fiscal
>> >> conservative...or at least I was. Fiscal conservatism doesn't work
>> >> and I'll be dead before it comes time to pay the piper...so, if you
>> >> can't beat 'em, JOIN 'em!
>> >
>> > Yahoo news had an article on 'why Mitt lost'. They say that he spent so
>> > much in the primaries that he didn't have enough left for the big vote
>> > relying just on big money donations.
>>
>> And I thought he couldn't spend it fast enough. In Ohio, the
>> commercials were in full saturation mode, none BUT political ads on the
>> TV. And the robo-calls...oh my GOD! We were getting 30 a day and
>> another 30 hang-ups. I assume the computer calls a bunch of numbers at
>> once so the phone worker wouldn't have to wait for the ringing.
>
>
> I had one woman wake me up to tell me what a great man Obama was, an
>wanted to tell me all about his platform. I told her that he was a
>moron, and had no platform. She tried again, so I told her that she was
>a fool for swallowing his lies, and not to call back and wake me again.
>She yelled at me, and hung up. Some women!

I had one call me up and I reminded her that Democrats formed and
maintained the KKK as its terrorist arm for 150 yrs and then told her
I was a registered Democrat and a Klan member. By the sound of her
voice..she was black. <VBG> I asked her if I could send her an
application to join the Klan here in California and be a real
Democrat.

She didnt know what to say and hung up on me.

Gunner

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LOL...that list is much smaller and has been getting smaller for 3
yrs. I only owe a bit less than $8k in property taxes now and will be
sending another check Monday. So that drops it down to about $5k

I own my place lock stock and barrel. So how much do you pay each
month for rent? Hummm?

<VBG>

raven1

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Nov 9, 2012, 9:03:10 AM11/9/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:41:52 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
I own a real house - we don't generally do the trailer/double-wide
thing in an actual city.

>>>Of course you do. That explains your posting style and content.
>>
>>Indeed it does: we generally have college educations here.
>
>So what did you major in? 16th Century Art or Applied Basketweaving?

Dual major in Music and Computer Science with a minor in Comparative
Religion. Summa cum Laude from a Tier I college. And you?

>My degree was from Michigan Tech (Houghton) Soumi Soumi!!!!

A pity you didn't bother to learn anything.

>Next question?

None at all, you've more than satisfied my sociological interest in
your rather odd mindset.

raven1

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Nov 9, 2012, 9:09:13 AM11/9/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:44:54 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
In a city of 8 million. Are you on crack, or just *really* bad at
basic math that you don't grasp that this is a pretty amazing
statistic?

>and 10,000 woundings, 100,000 rapes

Laughably false. Where did you pull that stat from, Weekly World News?

> and
>armed robberies up the ass..

I notice you didn't even bother to make up a number for this claim.

>and you call that "safest city in the
>world"?

Yep. Because it is, if you don't pull ridiculous claims out of your
ass.

Michael A. Terrell

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Nov 9, 2012, 10:30:28 AM11/9/12
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Gunner wrote:
>
> I had one call me up and I reminded her that Democrats formed and
> maintained the KKK as its terrorist arm for 150 yrs and then told her
> I was a registered Democrat and a Klan member. By the sound of her
> voice..she was black. <VBG> I asked her if I could send her an
> application to join the Klan here in California and be a real
> Democrat.
>
> She didnt know what to say and hung up on me.


I used to work second shift at a small defense contractor in Ohio.
The president of the company would come back a few hours after the shift
stared and stand on the landing for the second floor and stare at people
as the worked. A couple guys who worked in the Environmental testing
building took their wives out to dinner, and a KKK recruiter shoved an
application through their open car window so one of them filled it out
in the guy's name, and had his membership card mailed to him at the
plant. His secretary was black. Hilarity ensued.

MarkA

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Nov 9, 2012, 11:22:05 AM11/9/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 02:24:16 -0500, Steve Fox wrote:

> You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid thing?

Because Obama's dick will feel a whole lot better than Romney's would have.

--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock

MarkA

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Nov 9, 2012, 11:23:18 AM11/9/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 02:24:16 -0500, Steve Fox wrote:

> You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid thing?

At least Obama will give you a reach-around. Romney will fuck you in the
ass, then throw you out on the street, and won't return your calls!

Mike Painter

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Nov 9, 2012, 12:10:48 PM11/9/12
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 22:36:30 -0800 (PST), SkyEyes <skye...@cox.net>
wrote:

>> Oh my god indeed! Those calls are annoying. I thought they'd never
>> stop. I received a total of SIX campaign calls this year. Only two of
>> which were robo calls though. None of the presidential or vice
>> presidential candidates visited South Dakota. I would have gone to see
>> Paul Ryan pretend to wash dishes at the local homeless shelter.
>
>Last election - 2010 - I got robo calls as well, from the
>Republicans. They still had my mother's name, never mind that she
>passed away in 2004. No matter how many times I told them that I was
>a liberal democrat and would *not* be voting for any Republicans, they
>continued to call back. Would *not* take "no" for an answer.


I got a few calls and just said I make my own decisions and hung up.
I'm not sure who they were from.

I also got a call saying I had won a drawing of some sort. $250,000.
All I had to do was send a money order (she used a different term, one
I'd not heard before) for $500.00 to them.

After about ten minutes of being *real* excited and *Really, really*
confused I asked her how long she would talk before she realized that
I was never going to buy into her con job.
Apparently the answer was never as she just started asking if I didn't
want the money and that a delivery team was going to be in my area
that day.
--
"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." ~ Robert Pirsig

tirebiter

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:14:36 PM11/9/12
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On Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:24:33 AM UTC-5, Steve Fox wrote:
> You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
> thing?

For the last 4 years, Obama has fulfilled my biggest requirement each and
every day.

We don't have a President and VP named McCain/Palin.

For the next 4 years, he will fulfill my next biggest requirement each and
every day.

We won't have a President and VP named Romney/Ryan.

For all the charges that Obama is a socialist and a liberal, I wish it were
really true. But the reality is he's a right leaning centerist.

He tried to depolarize the political landscape by ceding to nearly every GOP
backed plan. But the moment he did, they abandoned their own work. I hope
he doesn't feel the need to kowtow to them in his second term.

In 2009, Mitch McConnell promised to never be bipartisan, even at the risk of
damaging the country, and the party backed him. That game has to end soon.

---
a.a. #2273

PrecisionmachinisT

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:22:38 PM11/9/12
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"SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote in message news:a895b693-08a0-4bc8...@jl13g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 8, 4:23 pm, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <3c2dndWKxKLGuwHNnZ2dnUVZ_gSdn...@scnresearch.com>,

> "PrecisionmachinisT" <123machin...@notmail.com> wrote:

> > > Obama sold his great grandmother into prostitution !!!
>
> > Did you actually think you were being clever when you typed that?

> He *undoubtedly* did. It's what passes for humor on the political far
right.

No, my point is, the majority of Romney supporters seem to be basing their decision from information that is patently absurd.

It's as though they are incapable of looking up raw data from sources like the white house budget office or BLS and insist on listening to political commentary instead.

For instance, they insist that Obama has been on a four-year spending spree, and when you point them to the actual spending data that proves otherwise, the response is predictable--they instead point to some chart listing spending as a percentage of GDP...

Then, when you point out to them that you don't purchase gasoline by "miles per gallon" their brains suddenly shift into neutral and then they change the subject and start claiming that Obama is a Muslim or something else equally stupid.



Christopher A. Lee

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:31:11 PM11/9/12
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:14:36 -0800 (PST), tirebiter
<dontsp...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 8, 2012 2:24:33 AM UTC-5, Steve Fox wrote:
>> You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>> thing?
>
>For the last 4 years, Obama has fulfilled my biggest requirement each and
>every day.
>
>We don't have a President and VP named McCain/Palin.
>
>For the next 4 years, he will fulfill my next biggest requirement each and
>every day.
>
>We won't have a President and VP named Romney/Ryan.
>
>For all the charges that Obama is a socialist and a liberal, I wish it were
>really true. But the reality is he's a right leaning centerist.

Yes. Every Democrat President has been further to the right than every
post WW2 British Prime Minister before Thatcher.

>He tried to depolarize the political landscape by ceding to nearly every GOP
>backed plan. But the moment he did, they abandoned their own work. I hope
>he doesn't feel the need to kowtow to them in his second term.

They will do anything to try and make him ineffective, even lf it
damages the country.

>In 2009, Mitch McConnell promised to never be bipartisan, even at the risk of
>damaging the country, and the party backed him. That game has to end soon.

Hopefully.

But with the GOP now standing for God's Own Party and imagining they
have a divine right to rule on its behalf, there can be no compromise.

They would rather have no Presidency at all than no right wing
fundamentalist.

duke

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:53:42 PM11/9/12
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 02:24:16 -0500 (EST), "Steve Fox" <nob...@slug.sluggish.net>
wrote:

>You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid
>thing?

The dukester, American - American
********************************************
You can't fix stupid.
********************************************

Gunner

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Nov 9, 2012, 2:08:50 PM11/9/12
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:03:10 -0500, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>>
>>I thought you said New York, not Switzerland?
>>
>>>Absolutely. Where do you park your trailer, or is it perhaps a
>>>double-wide?
>>
>>I own my home and my property outright. How much is your lease?
>>
>>Humm?
>
>I own a real house - we don't generally do the trailer/double-wide
>thing in an actual city.

You mean you and your mortage company own a "real house". And
worse..you live in an actual city.

My manufactured home..and the land it sits on..is fully paid for. No
monthly nut. Nada. Deeds for both are in my safe.

Property taxes are $240 a year. In California.
On nearly an acre.

<VBG>

>
>>>>Of course you do. That explains your posting style and content.
>>>
>>>Indeed it does: we generally have college educations here.
>>
>>So what did you major in? 16th Century Art or Applied Basketweaving?
>
>Dual major in Music and Computer Science with a minor in Comparative
>Religion. Summa cum Laude from a Tier I college.

"A pity you didnt bother to learn anything"

Major in music and a minor in religion. I thought Leftwingers didnt
put any stock in religion? And that computer science thingy...hows
that working out for you? We know you toot your own horn nicely....

When I got my Novell CE..I was sooo proud. Too bad it was only good
for about 2 year before the bottom fell out of Novell and it didnt
mean anything anymore. Then I got my Microsoft Engineer ticket...then
that went into the toilet.

Now days..I run Linux and dont worry about computer "science" as it
changes so rapidly its impossible to keep up with unless one is
directly involved in it.

IM curious..what do you do for a living? Obviously its not computers,
music or religion. Im betting you are either a paper shuffler for a
school, a prostitute or a hair dresser.

Which one is it?


>>My degree was from Michigan Tech (Houghton) Soumi Soumi!!!!
>
>A pity you didn't bother to learn anything.

You mean its "a pity you didnt become a brainwashed leftwinger"
Correct?

>
>>Next question?
>
>None at all, you've more than satisfied my sociological interest in
>your rather odd mindset.

And you somehow think you are "normal"?

ROFLMAO!!!

LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!!!
LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!!
LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!!!!!!!!!!

Tom Gardner

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Nov 9, 2012, 2:35:49 PM11/9/12
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:CuOdncP-tpb4_AHN...@earthlink.com...
>
> Tom Gardner wrote:
>>
>> It's not politically correct to even THINK that way!
>
>
> It's no longer politically correct to think at all.

WINNER!


Tom Gardner

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"Gunner" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:tbro985l9l8ei1ipt...@4ax.com...>

> Odd...some 300+ killings and 10,000 woundings, 100,000 rapes and
> armed robberies up the ass..and you call that "safest city in the
> world"?
>

In NYC, that isn't considered "crime", that's considered "SPORT"!


Gunner

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Nov 9, 2012, 2:41:12 PM11/9/12
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:09:13 -0500, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>>
>>Odd...some 300+ killings
>
>In a city of 8 million. Are you on crack, or just *really* bad at
>basic math that you don't grasp that this is a pretty amazing
>statistic?

Its pretty amazing for New York. But you guys did clean most of the
hookers and drug dealers out of Times Square. But they now ply their
trade in other locations.

>
>>and 10,000 woundings, 100,000 rapes
>
>Laughably false. Where did you pull that stat from, Weekly World News?
>
>> and
>>armed robberies up the ass..
>
>I notice you didn't even bother to make up a number for this claim.
>
>>and you call that "safest city in the
>>world"?
>
>Yep. Because it is, if you don't pull ridiculous claims out of your
>ass.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/nycrime.htm

However..thats somewhat in dispute by the fact the NY government has
consistantly lied about its crime rates.....

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2012/07/ny-times-notices-compstat-lies.html


Sunday, July 01, 2012
NY Times Notices CompStat Lies
The Gray Lady discovers all may not be what it seems in crime
statistics:

An anonymous survey of nearly 2,000 retired officers found that
the manipulation of crime reports — downgrading crimes to lesser
offenses and discouraging victims from filing complaints to make crime
statistics look better — has long been part of the culture of the New
York Police Department.

The results showed that pressure on officers to artificially
reduce crime rates, while simultaneously increasing summonses and the
number of people stopped and often frisked on the street, has
intensified in the last decade, the two criminologists who conducted
the research said in interviews this week.

“I think our survey clearly debunks the Police Department’s
rotten-apple theory,” said Eli B. Silverman, one of the
criminologists, referring to arguments that very few officers
manipulated crime statistics. “This really demonstrates a rotten
barrel.”

So is it only a matter of time before McCompStat himself is tossed out
on his ear for bringing this totally corrupt and bullshit system to
Chicago? Rahm hates being lied to although he seems to have no problem
if he's the one spreading the manure. But being sold a bill of goods
on an entire policing system as the homicide numbers continue to climb
makes it harder to stick with the lie that "crime is down across the
board."
Crime isn't down - it's being "massaged" for a political end.

http://www.businessinsider.com/nypd-alleged-crime-report-manipulation-2012-6

The NYPD Is Lying About Its Police Reports To Make Crime Stats Look
Better: Survey
Alex Mikoulianitch | Jun. 29, 2012, 11:44 AM | 123 |

An anonymous survey of retired New York police officers has reportedly
found rampant crime-report manipulation at the NYPD.

The survey refutes the NYPD's defense that it has just a few rotten
apples, Eli Silverman, one of the criminologists who conducted the
survey, told The New York Times.

"This really demonstrates a rotten barrel," he said.

The NYPD's focus on cutting down on major felonies started a "number's
game" to downplay serious crimes, according to Silverman and an
ex-police captain, John Eterno, who conducted the survey.

One officer said he heard a deputy commissioner tell a commanding
officer to "just consolidate burglaries that occurred in an apartment
building and count as one," the Times reported.

NYPD Spokesman Paul Browne reportedly called the survey junk science
because it involved a very small sample of roughly 2,000 responses
from retired officers.

http://gothamist.com/2010/02/02/cops_comes_forward_says_crime_stati.php

Brooklyn Cop: Crime Statistics Are Lies

2010_2_serpico.jpg

A Brooklyn cop has accused the NYPD of under-reporting and refusing to
investigate crimes in order to keep crime statistics down. Officer
Adrian Schoolcraft alleges that cops in the Bedford-Stuyvesant's 81st
Precinct have deliberately recorded felonies as misdemeanors and
turned some victims away so crime rates at Ralph Avenue stationhouse
appear lower. "I wanted to become a police officer, chase the bad
guys, and I thought the NYPD was the best police department in the
world," said the Texas native, who joined the NYPD in 2002 because he
wanted to serve after the Sept. 11 attacks. "I never thought it would
turn out like this."

To back up his claims, Schoolcraft gave the Daily News the names of 14
crime victims who tried to report crimes at the 81st Precinct, where
the crime rate has dropped 17 percent over the past two years. In
interviews, five victims backed up Schoolcraft's allegations, three
said police responded correctly, four could not be reached, and two
initially agreed that police had erred, though they couldn't be
reached for follow-up interviews. Here are some of the allegations:

Even though burglars left a hole in his door, police allegedly
wouldn't take a 79-year-old man's report because there was "no
evidence."

After thieves stole a 65-year-old woman's car, cops purportedly
refused to file a report.

Though perps "kicked, pummeled and even tried to suffocate" a
27-year-old man in a mugging, officers apparently classified the
attack as "lost property."

The Internal Affairs Bureau and the Quality Assurance Division are now
investigating Schoolcraft's allegations, which he claims have made him
quite unpopular on the force. The seven-year veteran has been
suspended since Halloween for leaving work an hour early without
permission, then getting into an altercation with other cops about
that suspension.

After the confrontation, he was deemed unstable and committed to a
psychiatric unit at Jamaica Center for more than six days—a move he
told the Post was payback for coming forward. A person reportedly
"familiar with a psychiatric assessment" of Schoolcraft told the News:
"He doesn't understand the police culture. Is he insane? Is he
psychotic? Is he manic? Absolutely not. I think he can be believed."

That well known Thin Blue Line thingy that nearly killed Serpico as I
recall.

NYC cops...corrupt as the day is long.

And you believe you live in the safest city in the world...ROFLMAO!!

How many homicides has Tokyo had this year? Bonn? Geneva?
London? (well..they lie about their crime stats in London too..)

Really need me to rub your nose it it? Id be happy as hell to do just
that.

raven1

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On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:08:50 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:03:10 -0500, raven1
><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>I thought you said New York, not Switzerland?
>>>
>>>>Absolutely. Where do you park your trailer, or is it perhaps a
>>>>double-wide?
>>>
>>>I own my home and my property outright. How much is your lease?
>>>
>>>Humm?
>>
>>I own a real house - we don't generally do the trailer/double-wide
>>thing in an actual city.
>
>You mean you and your mortage company own a "real house". And
>worse..you live in an actual city.

For definitions of "worse" that mean "much better".

>My manufactured home..and the land it sits on..is fully paid for. No
>monthly nut. Nada. Deeds for both are in my safe.
>
>Property taxes are $240 a year. In California.
>On nearly an acre.

So why are you having trouble paying them?
>
><VBG>
>
>>
>>>>>Of course you do. That explains your posting style and content.
>>>>
>>>>Indeed it does: we generally have college educations here.
>>>
>>>So what did you major in? 16th Century Art or Applied Basketweaving?
>>
>>Dual major in Music and Computer Science with a minor in Comparative
>>Religion. Summa cum Laude from a Tier I college.
>
>"A pity you didnt bother to learn anything"
>
>Major in music

What of it? And Computer Science as well. Did you manage to misread a
simple sentence?

>and a minor in religion. I thought Leftwingers didnt
>put any stock in religion?

A list of the misconceptions you have about leftists would fill a
rather large book.

>And that computer science thingy...hows
>that working out for you?

Well enough to afford a house in NYC, obviously. Thanks for asking.

>We know you toot your own horn nicely....

Whereas you just blow on your tuneless kazoo.

>When I got my Novell CE..I was sooo proud. Too bad it was only good
>for about 2 year before the bottom fell out of Novell and it didnt
>mean anything anymore. Then I got my Microsoft Engineer ticket...then
>that went into the toilet.
>
>Now days..I run Linux and dont worry about computer "science" as it
>changes so rapidly its impossible to keep up with unless one is
>directly involved in it.
>
>IM curious..what do you do for a living? Obviously its not computers,
>music or religion. Im betting you are either a paper shuffler for a
>school, a prostitute or a hair dresser.
>
>Which one is it?

Computers and music, actually.

>>>My degree was from Michigan Tech (Houghton) Soumi Soumi!!!!
>>
>>A pity you didn't bother to learn anything.
>
>You mean its "a pity you didnt become a brainwashed leftwinger"
>Correct?

Wow, you didn't even get as far as reading for comprehension. It's
worse than I thought.

>>>Next question?
>>
>>None at all, you've more than satisfied my sociological interest in
>>your rather odd mindset.
>
>And you somehow think you are "normal"?
>
>ROFLMAO!!!
>
>LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!!!
>LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!!
>LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!!!!!!!!!!

Umm, *that* is decidedly not a "normal" response. It's actually pretty
off-the-scale looney.

Don Martin

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Tom Gardner <Mars@Tacks> wrote:
> On 11/8/2012 8:03 PM, suzeeq wrote:
>> Tom Gardner wrote:
>>> "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:k7gm5g$u0i$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>> ================================================
>>>> Oh I see. THAT explains why poor black voters in Florida waited up
>>>> to THREE fucking hours to vote the other day.
>>>>
>>>> Sore losers and bigots...THAT'S why Mitt lost.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Kinda'. Ideology looses to free cell phones EVERY TIME! The
>>> Republicans are FOOLS! They should have been more in tune with what
>>> the majority of people want. I'm a registered Democrat and a fiscal
>>> conservative...or at least I was. Fiscal conservatism doesn't work
>>> and I'll be dead before it comes time to pay the piper...so, if you
>>> can't beat 'em, JOIN 'em!
>>
>> Yahoo news had an article on 'why Mitt lost'. They say that he spent so
>> much in the primaries that he didn't have enough left for the big vote
>> relying just on big money donations.
>
> And I thought he couldn't spend it fast enough. In Ohio, the commercials
> were in full saturation mode, none BUT political ads on the TV. And the
> robo-calls...oh my GOD! We were getting 30 a day and another 30
> hang-ups. I assume the computer calls a bunch of numbers at once so the
> phone worker wouldn't have to wait for the ringing.

I believe the computers dial in batches of four sequentially (block by
block: 254-0001, 254-0002, etc. to cover sneaks with unlisted numbers)
transferring the first pick up to the operater or the canned tart and
disconnecting on the other three. I am getting more silent calls than ever
before; used to be this was a burglar's ploy to make sure no one was home,
but the burglars seem to have since become too decent to use telemarketers
tricks.

--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/

raven1

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Nov 9, 2012, 3:23:07 PM11/9/12
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Actually, it's considered bullshit. The only number he has remotely
right is the number of murders. Which for a city of 8 million people,
is actually an astoundingly *low* figure, something he manages to
overlook, probably due to the poor math skills one needs to support
the GOP's economic plan. He needs to move on from the image of NYC in
the bad old days back in the 1970's: we've been the safest large city
in the US for nearly two decades now, and one of the safest in the
world.

Gunner

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Nov 9, 2012, 3:34:04 PM11/9/12
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:45:05 -0500, raven1
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:08:50 -0800, Gunner <gunne...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:03:10 -0500, raven1
>><quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>I thought you said New York, not Switzerland?
>>>>
>>>>>Absolutely. Where do you park your trailer, or is it perhaps a
>>>>>double-wide?
>>>>
>>>>I own my home and my property outright. How much is your lease?
>>>>
>>>>Humm?
>>>
>>>I own a real house - we don't generally do the trailer/double-wide
>>>thing in an actual city.
>>
>>You mean you and your mortage company own a "real house". And
>>worse..you live in an actual city.
>
>For definitions of "worse" that mean "much better".
>

So you are admitting you dont actually own your home. Is that correct?

>>My manufactured home..and the land it sits on..is fully paid for. No
>>monthly nut. Nada. Deeds for both are in my safe.
>>
>>Property taxes are $240 a year. In California.
>>On nearly an acre.
>
>So why are you having trouble paying them?

Because the wife screwed them up and then lied about it. For years.

She is a Democrat too. And dumb. And greedy.

>>
>><VBG>
>>
>>>
>>>>>>Of course you do. That explains your posting style and content.
>>>>>
>>>>>Indeed it does: we generally have college educations here.
>>>>
>>>>So what did you major in? 16th Century Art or Applied Basketweaving?
>>>
>>>Dual major in Music and Computer Science with a minor in Comparative
>>>Religion. Summa cum Laude from a Tier I college.
>>
>>"A pity you didnt bother to learn anything"
>>
>>Major in music
>
>What of it? And Computer Science as well. Did you manage to misread a
>simple sentence?

See below. Snicker.....
>
>>and a minor in religion. I thought Leftwingers didnt
>>put any stock in religion?
>
>A list of the misconceptions you have about leftists would fill a
>rather large book.

What...Im a Democrat! I cant be wrong!!
>
>>And that computer science thingy...hows
>>that working out for you?
>
>Well enough to afford a house in NYC, obviously. Thanks for asking.

Renting then.
>
>>We know you toot your own horn nicely....
>
>Whereas you just blow on your tuneless kazoo.

Mines in key. Yours...not so much.

>
>>When I got my Novell CE..I was sooo proud. Too bad it was only good
>>for about 2 year before the bottom fell out of Novell and it didnt
>>mean anything anymore. Then I got my Microsoft Engineer ticket...then
>>that went into the toilet.
>>
>>Now days..I run Linux and dont worry about computer "science" as it
>>changes so rapidly its impossible to keep up with unless one is
>>directly involved in it.
>>
>>IM curious..what do you do for a living? Obviously its not computers,
>>music or religion. Im betting you are either a paper shuffler for a
>>school, a prostitute or a hair dresser.
>>
>>Which one is it?
>
>Computers and music, actually.

So you are a hooker. Shrug. Its easy work and it probably pays well.

>
>>>>My degree was from Michigan Tech (Houghton) Soumi Soumi!!!!
>>>
>>>A pity you didn't bother to learn anything.
>>
>>You mean its "a pity you didnt become a brainwashed leftwinger"
>>Correct?
>
>Wow, you didn't even get as far as reading for comprehension. It's
>worse than I thought.

Thats what happens when you are a brainwashed Lefty. That "thought"
part obviously was a face saver.

>
>>>>Next question?
>>>
>>>None at all, you've more than satisfied my sociological interest in
>>>your rather odd mindset.
>>
>>And you somehow think you are "normal"?
>>
>>ROFLMAO!!!
>>
>>LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!!!
>>LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!!
>>LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Umm, *that* is decidedly not a "normal" response. It's actually pretty
>off-the-scale looney.

Why? You told a very funny and incredibly absurd joke.

Michael A. Terrell

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Nov 9, 2012, 3:35:10 PM11/9/12
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Gunner wrote:
>
> Its pretty amazing for New York. But you guys did clean most of the
> hookers and drug dealers out of Times Square. But they now ply their
> trade in other locations.


Like at City Hall?

Michael A. Terrell

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Nov 9, 2012, 3:36:13 PM11/9/12
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SHHHHH! The last time I won something the prize was six years in the
Army, and I'm too old to go back!!!

Don Kresch

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Nov 9, 2012, 5:30:36 PM11/9/12
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 11:22:05 -0500, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid>
scrawled in blood:

>On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 02:24:16 -0500, Steve Fox wrote:
>
>> You bitches know it's coming. Why did you do such a stupid thing?
>
>Because Obama's dick will feel a whole lot better than Romney's would have.

Rape is still rape, regardless.


Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.

Dakota

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Nov 9, 2012, 7:27:13 PM11/9/12
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But is it "legitimate�" rape?

Gunner

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Nov 9, 2012, 10:28:46 PM11/9/12
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There too.

Professor Bubba

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Nov 9, 2012, 11:16:05 PM11/9/12
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In article <4fir989gdnq7lrtfq...@4ax.com>, Gunner
<gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ""The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have
> to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I
> became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you
> have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to
> use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.
>
> Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don’t have
> a clue as to political reality.
> What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard
> workers and convince them that they should support social programs
> that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a
> little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you
> want.
>
> The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic
> operative instead of a Republican was because there were more
> Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans."
> James Carvell, DNC operative


The "Carvell" quote is a lie. James Carville has never said it or
written it, or anything like it. Somebody posted it last month at
ThinkExist.com, which appears to be where it started. People who don't
seem to understand that it doesn't sound or read anything like James
Carville have been carrying on and reposting it ever since. I guess it
makes them feel better about having been blown away in the election.
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