God will not punish you for choosing not to love Him.

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Michael McLean

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Jan 28, 2023, 2:30:25 AMJan 28
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He can't.  It is outside His nature.  What is the alternative?  Making
you a robot?  Forcing you to love Him?  What would be the point of that,
what would be the worth of that??!!

That is not love; loving is a choice.

The Lord Jesus Christ paid the price for your failing to adhere to the
knowledge of good and evil, right and wrong before the face of a holy God.

What?  He's now going to punish you for exercising the freedom He gave
you – choosing NOT to love Him.

As I said, it is outside His nature.

Religious sinners have stolen the narrative of God's nature for hundreds
of years.  For hundreds of years, religious sinners have claimed that if
you are out of step with their flawed church doctrines and ways, you are
out of step with God.

No! No! No!

God decides who is out of step, not those who seek to set themselves up
in the holy place with their Bibles; the place of GOD ALONE.

No wonder they scoff when told to put down their bibles and seek the
will of the Lord, Messiah, Savior, and Deliverer in their daily lives
and do what He says.




Mike

--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

Tim

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Jan 28, 2023, 7:10:57 AMJan 28
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On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:30:25 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> He can't.

Because that which is not has no power, no effect, and no being other than in those imagining it.

P.S. Pay close attention to the _fact_ that no two christers agree on anything. That's because they all imagine different things about their imaginary god.

You can't win, nurse nash.

You can only imagine otherwise.

HTH.

Michael McLean

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Jan 28, 2023, 6:31:09 PMJan 28
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On 28/01/2023 11:10 pm, Tim wrote:
> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:30:25 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>> He can't.
>
> Because that which is not has no power, no effect, and no being other than in those imagining it.
>

Then you have to go with the impossible: you created yourself.

Great job, by the way. :-).



> P.S. Pay close attention to the _fact_ that no two christers agree on anything. That's because they all imagine different things about their imaginary god.
>
> You can't win, nurse nash.
>
> You can only imagine otherwise.
>
> HTH.

It is not about men agreeing. They are not God.

You centre everything on the grandstand of man/self/me/I; there is way
more and higher. And so your understanding is like an ant who looks up
and sees a plane flying by and thinks to itself, what's being high up
there worth anyway?

Well, for one thing, we can see everything you do and where you are going.

hhya...@gmail.com

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Jan 29, 2023, 4:03:47 AMJan 29
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On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 7:31:09 AM UTC+8, Michael McLean wrote:
> On 28/01/2023 11:10 pm, Tim wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:30:25 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> >> He can't.
> >
> > Because that which is not has no power, no effect, and no being other than in those imagining it.
> >
> Then you have to go with the impossible: you created yourself.

There is no such fucking pixie to create anything in this universe...
Otherwise, it would have created the Moonlings, you bloody sick moron!

Tim

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Jan 29, 2023, 2:55:35 PMJan 29
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On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 6:31:09 PM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> On 28/01/2023 11:10 pm, Tim wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:30:25 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> >> He can't.
> >
> > Because that which is not has no power, no effect, and no being other than in those imagining it.
> >
> Then you have to go with the impossible: you created yourself.

No, evolution created me.

>
> Great job, by the way. :-).

That's a fact. Why isn't your motorbike? :-)

> > P.S. Pay close attention to the _fact_ that no two christers agree on anything. That's because they all imagine different things about their imaginary god.
> >
> > You can't win, nurse nash.
> >
> > You can only imagine otherwise.
> >
> > HTH.
> It is not about men agreeing.

Actually, it is.

> They are not God.

There is no evidence for Thor, Odin, Vishnu, or any of the others, you silly devil.

>
> You centre everything on the grandstand of man/self/me/I; there is way
> more and higher.

You keep assuming facts that are not in evidence.

> And so your understanding is like an ant who looks up
> and sees a plane flying by and thinks to itself, what's being high up
> there worth anyway?

You're an imbecile ranting about an assumed paradise. My understanding revolves around the facts presented to me by my senses in the real world.

>
> Well, for one thing, we can see everything you do and where you are going.

You get to see my posts. I get to see yours - repeated christer drivel while you pound your tits and claim that your god's good little god bothered bitch. You're going around in the same circle you've been stuck in since you convinced yourself to be god bothered.

Michael McLean

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Jan 29, 2023, 4:05:37 PMJan 29
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On 30/01/2023 6:55 am, Tim wrote:
> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 6:31:09 PM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>> On 28/01/2023 11:10 pm, Tim wrote:
>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:30:25 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>>>> He can't.
>>>
>>> Because that which is not has no power, no effect, and no being other than in those imagining it.
>>>
>> Then you have to go with the impossible: you created yourself.
>
> No, evolution created me.

Then you did create yourself, unless you can point me to this "being" of
self-design?

Superficiality is like watching a child play with his toy car. That's
okay, but we are on the freeway of life here.

What you are saying is ridiculous.


>> Great job, by the way. :-).
>
> That's a fact. Why isn't your motorbike? :-)

Superficial. Nice toy car.


>
>>> P.S. Pay close attention to the _fact_ that no two christers agree on anything. That's because they all imagine different things about their imaginary god.
>>>
>>> You can't win, nurse nash.
>>>
>>> You can only imagine otherwise.
>>>
>>> HTH.
>> It is not about men agreeing.
>
> Actually, it is.

No, because men are imperfect; they are not God. What they think and
what they do is flawed, and reality is not flawed.

There is a simple reality for you, Mr Superficial.


>> They are not God.
>
> There is no evidence for Thor, Odin, Vishnu, or any of the others, you silly devil.

Superficial. No one is God but God, no one is Creator but the Creator.

There is no evidence evolution created itself, though; I hope that helps.

You are a spineless deserter of truth, and that is what makes you a
dickhead.

What you sow is what you reap.

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that
shall he also reap.

That is a law, like gravity.

You didn't create that law. A big bang didn't, a process of difference
didn't (evolution), an animal didn't.

What you sow is what you reap, and what you choose, is the consequence.

Fact.





Mike


>> You centre everything on the grandstand of man/self/me/I; there is way
>> more and higher.
>
> You keep assuming facts that are not in evidence.
>
>> And so your understanding is like an ant who looks up
>> and sees a plane flying by and thinks to itself, what's being high up
>> there worth anyway?
>
> You're an imbecile ranting about an assumed paradise. My understanding revolves around the facts presented to me by my senses in the real world.
>
>>
>> Well, for one thing, we can see everything you do and where you are going.
>
> You get to see my posts. I get to see yours - repeated christer drivel while you pound your tits and claim that your god's good little god bothered bitch. You're going around in the same circle you've been stuck in since you convinced yourself to be god bothered.
>

Tim

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Jan 29, 2023, 7:59:44 PMJan 29
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On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 4:05:37 PM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> On 30/01/2023 6:55 am, Tim wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 6:31:09 PM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> >> On 28/01/2023 11:10 pm, Tim wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:30:25 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> >>>> He can't.
> >>>
> >>> Because that which is not has no power, no effect, and no being other than in those imagining it.
> >>>
> >> Then you have to go with the impossible: you created yourself.
> >
> > No, evolution created me.
> Then you did create yourself,

No, I'm a product of evolution, not evolution itself. Big difference if you have a brain.

> unless you can point me to this "being" of
> self-design?

It's called evolution. Try a google search.

>
> Superficiality is like watching a child play with his toy car. That's
> okay, but we are on the freeway of life here.

You're the picture of superficiality.

>
> What you are saying is ridiculous.

Oh, the irony!

> >> Great job, by the way. :-).
> >
> > That's a fact. Why isn't your motorbike? :-)
> Superficial. Nice toy car.

Evasion noted.

> >
> >>> P.S. Pay close attention to the _fact_ that no two christers agree on anything. That's because they all imagine different things about their imaginary god.
> >>>
> >>> You can't win, nurse nash.
> >>>
> >>> You can only imagine otherwise.
> >>>
> >>> HTH.
> >> It is not about men agreeing.
> >
> > Actually, it is.
> No, because men are imperfect;

That does not mean they can't agree on anything.

> they are not God. What they think and
> what they do is flawed, and reality is not flawed.

I'm not interested in your anti-life attitude.

>
> There is a simple reality for you, Mr Superficial.

A reality you deny, anti-lifer.

> >> They are not God.
> >
> > There is no evidence for Thor, Odin, Vishnu, or any of the others, you silly devil.
> Superficial. No one is God but God, no one is Creator but the Creator.

Circular arguments are superficial. And that's all you have.

>
> There is no evidence evolution created itself, though; I hope that helps.

There is no evidence that a god did it.

>
> You are a spineless deserter of truth, and that is what makes you a
> dickhead.

You're just a closed minded bigot who can't fathom the fact that the rest of the world thinks you are full of shit. Even the other christers here call you out on your bullshit, stevie.

>
> What you sow is what you reap.

Reapeth away, princess:

https://tinyurl.com/ycacv2ax

>
> Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that
> shall he also reap.

Hey god: Mock, mock, mock. I beg to differ.

>
> That is a law, like gravity.

In your addled mind. Meanwhile, back in reality... .

>
> You didn't create that law. A big bang didn't, a process of difference
> didn't (evolution), an animal didn't.

The law of mock! LOL!

>
> What you sow is what you reap, and what you choose, is the consequence.
>
> Fact.

Reap some more:

https://tinyurl.com/ycacv2ax

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you're a boner

Tim

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You're not the topic.

Michael McLean

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Jan 29, 2023, 9:37:01 PMJan 29
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On 30/01/2023 11:59 am, Tim wrote:
> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 4:05:37 PM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>> On 30/01/2023 6:55 am, Tim wrote:
>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 6:31:09 PM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>>>> On 28/01/2023 11:10 pm, Tim wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:30:25 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
>>>>>> He can't.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because that which is not has no power, no effect, and no being other than in those imagining it.
>>>>>
>>>> Then you have to go with the impossible: you created yourself.
>>>
>>> No, evolution created me.
>> Then you did create yourself,
>
> No, I'm a product of evolution, not evolution itself. Big difference if you have a brain.
>

Word salad.

"No, evolution created me" and "I'm a product of evolution, not
evolution itself."

You don't know what you are saying.

How can you be a product of evolution and not be evolution? Did you
recreate yourself out of something else? Y'know, like a Canadian
dolphin? :-).

THERE IS NO GOD EVOLUTION, YOU DICKHEAD! "Evolution is change in the
heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive
generations," it is just a thing, like gravity is just a thing.

That is like saying gravity gave you feet!

Sheesh, unbelievable!


>> unless you can point me to this "being" of
>> self-design?
>
> It's called evolution. Try a google search.

So you are a..."Evolution is change in the heritable characteristics of
biological populations over successive generations."



>> Superficiality is like watching a child play with his toy car. That's
>> okay, but we are on the freeway of life here.
>
> You're the picture of superficiality.
>
>>
>> What you are saying is ridiculous.
>
> Oh, the irony!
>
>>>> Great job, by the way. :-).
>>>
>>> That's a fact. Why isn't your motorbike? :-)
>> Superficial. Nice toy car.
>
> Evasion noted.

A motorbike is a motorbike, that is why we call it a motorbike; there is
a fact.




>
>>>
>>>>> P.S. Pay close attention to the _fact_ that no two christers agree on anything. That's because they all imagine different things about their imaginary god.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can't win, nurse nash.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can only imagine otherwise.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH.
>>>> It is not about men agreeing.
>>>
>>> Actually, it is.
>> No, because men are imperfect;
>
> That does not mean they can't agree on anything.

Sure, but reality is not determined by "men agreeing" because reality is
not flawed.

In that way, reality is a higher order than men.

Uh oh, danger Will Robertson! Spineless deserter of truth alert!
Spineless deserter of truth alert!


>> they are not God. What they think and
>> what they do is flawed, and reality is not flawed.
>
> I'm not interested in your anti-life attitude.

Evasion noted.

Spineless deserter of truth alert!


>> There is a simple reality for you, Mr Superficial.
>
> A reality you deny, anti-lifer.

Spineless bullshitter alert!


>
>>>> They are not God.
>>>
>>> There is no evidence for Thor, Odin, Vishnu, or any of the others, you silly devil.
>> Superficial. No one is God but God, no one is Creator but the Creator.
>
> Circular arguments are superficial. And that's all you have.
>
>>
>> There is no evidence evolution created itself, though; I hope that helps.
>
> There is no evidence that a god did it.

So, you have nothing but a circular argument. Well done.


>
>>
>> You are a spineless deserter of truth, and that is what makes you a
>> dickhead.
>
> You're just a closed minded bigot who can't fathom the fact that the rest of the world thinks you are full of shit. Even the other christers here call you out on your bullshit, stevie.
>

Oh, so I should live as you tell me to live and they tell me to live? :-).

Yeah, sure! Hold the line!

I don't need your or their approval, Mr Marvellous Self-created
Evolution Thingy!


>>
>> What you sow is what you reap.
>
> Reapeth away, princess:
>
> https://tinyurl.com/ycacv2ax

What you sow, you reap.

It isn't going to change because it doesn't get your approval.


>> Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that
>> shall he also reap.
>
> Hey god: Mock, mock, mock. I beg to differ.

As above.

>
>>
>> That is a law, like gravity.
>
> In your addled mind. Meanwhile, back in reality... .

You don't determine reality. You know why.

You're flawed.



>> You didn't create that law. A big bang didn't, a process of difference
>> didn't (evolution), an animal didn't.
>
> The law of mock! LOL!

Sow whatever you like, it is your privilege and your consequence.



>
>>
>> What you sow is what you reap, and what you choose, is the consequence.
>>
>> Fact.
>
> Reap some more:
>
> https://tinyurl.com/ycacv2ax

You are not the dispenser of reality; you're flawed. Sorry, no
employment here.

At the end of the day, Tim, you have a choice. If you do not choose God
or say there is no God to choose, what difference does it make?

Eh?


Mike

PS: No one can hide from their conscience.

Dexter

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Jan 29, 2023, 10:27:18 PMJan 29
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Michael McLean wrote:

> On 28/01/2023 11:10 pm, Tim wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 2:30:25 AM UTC-5, Michael McLean wrote:
> > > He can't.
> >
> > Because that which is not has no power, no effect, and no being other than
> > in those imagining it.
> >
>
> Then you have to go with the impossible: you created yourself.
>
> Great job, by the way. :-).
>
>
>
> > P.S. Pay close attention to the fact that no two christers agree on
> > anything. That's because they all imagine different things about their
> > imaginary god.
> >
> > You can't win, nurse nash.
> >
> > You can only imagine otherwise.
> >
> > HTH.
>
> It is not about men agreeing. They are not God.
>
> You centre everything on the grandstand of man/self/me/I; there is way more
> and higher. And so your understanding is like an ant who looks up and sees a
> plane flying by and thinks to itself, what's being high up there worth anyway?
>
> Well, for one thing, we can see everything you do and where you are going.
>
----------------------------------

So, as a man then, you are not god. But who is this "we" that you speak of?
Unless you are god (a laughable idea) you don't have that power.

Michael McLean

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Jan 30, 2023, 2:54:38 AMJan 30
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True, but I walk in the light as He is in the light.

> But who is this "we" that you speak of?
> Unless you are god (a laughable idea) you don't have that power.

No problem, let's all get enlightened - God's ultimate goal for all.
For one thing, I am not after power (that is a fallen man's hunger), and
for another, God is always "we".

Gen_1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over
the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and
over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Gen_3:22  And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,
to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take
also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Look for the word "us."

Thank you for your question but can you be a little less insinuatingly
condemnatory? Please leave that for the perfect, sinner, religious
hypocrites with da Bible in their teeth and blood in their eyeballs.

Cheers.

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you're still a boner

Tim

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You're still not the topic.

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then why am i all you're talking about , boner

Tim

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I talk about what I like. You're not the topic, so I'm not talking about you, shorty.
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