Now I Ask the Atheists...
Arthur
Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
this question, so please give it your best shot.
If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
(or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
- re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
-assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
- hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
what are your thoughts?
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"Arthur" <sirarthur1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
> Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>
> I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
> this question, so please give it your best shot.
>
>
> If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
> hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the
earth
> (or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>
> - re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
> -assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
> - hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
>
I would await a thorough scientific investigation.
dral...@farside.fr
<sirarthur1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
>Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>
>I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
>this question, so please give it your best shot.
>
>
>If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
>hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
>(or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>
>- re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
>-assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
>- hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
>
>
>
>what are your thoughts?
>
>
(drala)
if a real undeniable magical event was to happen, I would
reconsider my position on the various existing sects, but it would
take a lot for me to consider that some kind of magical pixies could
be peeping at us and waiting to judge us at our death...
since no magical event of any sort had never happened for all
known history, so I don't see any reason for anything to happen
know...
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Gregory Gadow
> Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
> Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>
> I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
> this question, so please give it your best shot.
>
> If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
> hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
> (or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>
> - re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
> -assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
> - hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
>
> what are your thoughts?
I would consider it sufficient proof of the fundamentalist pre-millenial
variant of Christianity and I would convert on the spot. But only AFTER the
fact. Lets see the Christians vanish, first.
--
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Bill Thacker
Arthur <sirarthur1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
>Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>
>I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
>this question, so please give it your best shot.
>
>
>If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
>hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
>(or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>
>- re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
Yep.
Now here's one for you. If I were to show you today that Jesus was
clearly not the son of God, but was some kind of false prophet,
what would you do:
- re-consider your faith in him as your savior?
- re-consider your faith in the Bible?
- go on worshipping as before?
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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socode
: Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
: Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
: If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
: hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the
earth
: (or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
Assuming that a true "supernatural" event occurred, and not some
mass decision to "vanish"...
Would it be right to assume that any of them attended by the vanishers
would be adequate? If so, you'd consider me converted. Obviously it
isn't going to happen.
socode
Adam Goodman
> hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the
earth
> (or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>
> - re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
> -assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
> - hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
>
I would think "how curious" and explore what had happened. Given a complete
disappearance with no explanations, I would rethink my world view.
Based on the bible, though, hundreds of millions is far too many if you were
thinking "ascended to heaven":
Mark 16:17-18 - believers will speak in tongues and drink poison without it
hurting them
haven't seen hundreds of millions doing that!
1 Timothy 2:9/1 Peter 3:3 - women shouldn't dress up or be happy
disqualifies most of the female half of those women
Leviticus 19:19: lets just pick out the "Mixed linen and woolen" part
massive disqualification's
Matthew 5:22: Calling someone a fool is a ticket to hell.
Galatians 5:21: Getting drunk disqualifies you for heaven
I guess you figure on hundreds of millions never having done those things
Perhaps you were just figuring on us waking up and hundreds of millions of
christians having been sucked into hell.
edvard_k
>Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
>Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>
>I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
>this question, so please give it your best shot.
>
>
>If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
>hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
>(or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>
>- re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
>-assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
>- hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
>
>
>
>what are your thoughts?
I would consider this as reasonable evidence that something like the
god as depicted in the Bible and as interpreted by certain Christian
sects exists. Being a moral person I would naturaly join Satans army
to defeat it.
--
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Packman
> If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
> hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
> (or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
Yay!
Arthur
"Bill Thacker" <w...@cbemi.cb.lucent.com> wrote in message
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> In article <LNP69.39068$Zl2.8531@sccrnsc02>,
> Arthur <sirarthur1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
> >Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
> >
> >I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
> >this question, so please give it your best shot.
> >
> >
> >If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
> >hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the
earth
> >(or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
> >
> >- re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
>
> Yep.
>
> Now here's one for you. If I were to show you today that Jesus was
> clearly not the son of God, but was some kind of false prophet,
> what would you do:
>
> - re-consider your faith in him as your savior?
> - re-consider your faith in the Bible?
> - go on worshipping as before?
>
i would stop being a christian (probably still be a theist though) Paul
himself addressed this in 1 Cor
15:17
If Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in
your sins.
15:18
Then those also who have died in Christ have perished
15:32 "If the dead are not raised, LET US EAT AND DRINK, FOR TOMORROW WE
DIE. "
Arthur
"edvard_k" <add...@sig.com> wrote in message
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this response, actually is probably very accurate regarding how many would
regard such an event. They would consider god immoral and attempt to seize
power. However, any finite attempt to overthrow infinite will certainly be
futile.
Elf Sternberg
"Arthur" <sirarthur1...@earthlink.net> writes:
>If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
>hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
>(or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
Let's see it happen first.
Elf
--
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Craig Pennington
> Arthur wrote:
>> Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
>> Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>> I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
>> this question, so please give it your best shot.
>> If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
>> hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
>> (or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>> - re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
>> -assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
>> - hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
>> what are your thoughts?
> I would consider it sufficient proof of the fundamentalist pre-millenial
> variant of Christianity and I would convert on the spot. But only AFTER the
> fact. Lets see the Christians vanish, first.
To the degree that the event was consistent with fundamentalist pre-millenial
expectations, I agree that I would probably swing to the side of belief in
a god that inspired the beliefs of that branch of Christianity. Would I
convert to the now post-millenial variant of Christianity? I don't know. I'm
not sure I consider the god that they follow worthy of worship. But I'd take
what the pre-millenialists had to say a lot more seriously.
Cheers,
Craig
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advanced.
Wayne Aiken
: Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
: Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
:
: I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
: this question, so please give it your best shot.
:
:
: If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
: hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
: (or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
:
: - re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
: -assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
: - hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
- assume that mischievious aliens had beamed them up?
There's a problem with supernatural claims. The only things we can
experience or know about are purely natural. There isn't anything
in the natural realm that necessarily points to anything supernatural,
as opposed to something simply unknown but natural.
If there is a god, then surely he/she/it would know what non-believers
would find convincing.
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dral...@farside.fr
(drala)
you are perfectly right: any attempt to overthrow an imaginary
invisible pixy is bound to fail for obvious reasons...
but not necessarily: the christians managed to overthrow
various pagans deities and transform them into christians deities.
they even stole quite a number of babylonnians legends and even the
concept of monotheism: they lacked a bit of imagination perhaps???
Fatman
> Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>
> I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
> this question, so please give it your best shot.
>
>
> If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
> hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the
earth
> (or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>
> - re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
> -assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
> - hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
>
>
>
> what are your thoughts?
>
Lets see here, people vanish without trace. All denominations of
Christianity are gone.
Does that mean all are correct?
The in-fighting between Catholics, Methodist, Lutherans, Baptists, ect. is
for nothing?
Why would all the bodies vanish?
If the Christians were taken to heaven, why take the bodies with them?
Maybe Muhammad is right, and God destroyed all the Christians?
Maybe Jews were right, and God destroyed all the Christians?
Maybe God(s) "X" was right, and it/they destroyed all the Christians?
Maybe those patterns in fields mean something?
Who is next?
Why did they disappear?
The world is still as it was otherwise, so this isn't the "Apocalypse."
Who is left to thank God for allowing them to score the winning points in a
sporting event?
A mass disappearance leaves more questions that need to be answered before a
rational decision can be made.
Fatman
LP
<sirarthur1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Seize power?
That makes no sense.
There is not now, nor has there ever been any evidence that any
supernatural powers even exist.
The myth that you hold in such high regard has as its central icon,
an entity that has every characteristic of something that does not
exist. Not just some of the characteristics. It is EXACTLY like
something that does not exist. Could this just be a coincidence? Or
maybe your desire to believe has overwhelmed your ability to follow
this fact through to its logical conclusion.
Whirl_pool
#1439
edvard_k
Unless we have iron chariots:
"...The LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of
the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley,
because they had chariots of iron." -- Judges 1:19
L. Raymond
>Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
>Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>
>I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
>this question, so please give it your best shot.
>
>
>If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
>hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
>(or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>
>- re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
>-assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
>- hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
If millions of Christians literally disappeared off the face of the
Earth, it could not be their rapture since only 144,000 virgin males
are supposed to be included in that (Rev 7:4, 14:4). Since it could
not be the Christian god manifesting itself, one would have to examine
other possibilities equally likely:
- The Alpha Centurians returned to claim their own.
- Satan decided hell was too empty and claimed his people.
- The entire population of the world hallucinated millions of extra
people, and we suddenly came to our senses.
- Carl Sagan was really channeling Son!thry when he wrote _Contact_
and the missing folks have gone to tour Vega.
--
L. Raymond
Adam Marczyk
Oh, I dunno. Granted that, if God exists and is omnipotent as the Bible
describes him, attempting to actually overthrow him would be doomed to fail. But
consider - according to the millennialist view of the Bible, after Judgment Day
comes, only a relatively small handful of people will have made it to Heaven,
while the vast, overwhelming majority of all humans who have ever lived will be
in Hell, eternally separated from their creator, burning forever in the flame
without purpose or hope.
I think, by any rational standard, that means that Satan won after all.
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Fatman
"Adam Marczyk" <ebon...@hotmailNOTexcite.com> wrote in message
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> while the vast, overwhelming majority of all humans who have ever lived
will be
> in Hell, eternally separated from their creator, burning forever in the
flame
> without purpose or hope.
Just a comment on a different tangent.
I have yet to figure out how a "soul" can burn, since it is not of physical
substance, let alone, how can it burn forever without exhausting its "fuel".
Pain is a physical manifestation via. nerve receptors that not all humans
possess (i.e. nerve damage), so how could a "soul" even show discomfort if
it was burning?
Fatman
Bill Thacker
Arthur <sirarthur1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>"Bill Thacker" <w...@cbemi.cb.lucent.com> wrote in message
>news:ajgk0a$s...@nntpb.cb.lucent.com...
>>
>> clearly not the son of God, but was some kind of false prophet,
>> what would you do:
>>
>himself addressed this in 1 Cor
Mark 9
1 And he [Jesus]said to them, "I tell you the truth, some who are
standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of
God come with power."
That was 2000 years ago, and the kingdom of God has not come with
power. Your choice would seem to be between accepting that Jesus'
prophecy failed to come true, or claiming that somewhere in the world
there still lives one of the people who were standing there that day,
twice as old as Methuselah.
Do you have another explanation for Jesus' apparent false prophesy?
John Hattan
>Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
>Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>
>I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
>this question, so please give it your best shot.
>
>
>If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
>hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
>(or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>
>- re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
>-assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
>- hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
>
>
>
>what are your thoughts?
Dunno. I'll wait until it happens and worry about it then. It's coming
within 24 years according to Georgann, so there's not long to wait.
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Scott
"Wayne Aiken" <ai...@unity.ncsu.edu> wrote in message
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> Arthur (sirarthur1...@earthlink.net) wrote:
> : Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
> : Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
> :
> : I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers
to
> : this question, so please give it your best shot.
> :
> :
> : If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
> : hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the
earth
> : (or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
> :
> : - re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
> : -assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
> : - hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
>
> - assume that mischievious aliens had beamed them up?
>
What would aliens want from millions of Christians?
Scott
Michael Painter
> Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
> Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>
> I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
> this question, so please give it your best shot.
>
>
> If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
> hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the
earth
> (or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>
I doubt that hundreds of millions believe in the rapture.
It is questionable that hundreds of millions believe in the concept of
being "saved" to obtain heaven.
If the concept is valid then the means are "clearly" laid out in the bible.
I doubt that any two sects agree on what this "clearly" is.
If hundreds of millions were gone tomorrow I'd probably call the pope. He's
the only one with a crowd that large.
I'd also try to find a car with a rapture sticker on it...
Apostate
alt.atheism:
>Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
>Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>
>I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
>this question, so please give it your best shot.
>
>
>If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
>hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
>(or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>
That there is a gawd after all, and she's so generous that she's
granted our wish, without our having to pray for it.
--
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ejaculated:
>Arthur wrote:
>
>> Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
>> Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>>
>> I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
>> this question, so please give it your best shot.
>>
>> If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
>> hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
>> (or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>>
>> - re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
>> -assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
>> - hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
>>
>> what are your thoughts?
>
>I would consider it sufficient proof of the fundamentalist pre-millenial
>variant of Christianity and I would convert on the spot. But only AFTER the
>fact. Lets see the Christians vanish, first.
Pre-millenial fundies (I used to be one) say that if you have heard
the Gospel don't convert pre-Rapture then you are going to be sent
deluding spirits post-Rapture that will prevent you from converting.
There's a bible passage that hints at this vaguely. I can hunt it
down, if you want.
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>From: "Arthur" sirarthur1...@earthlink.net
>Date: 8/15/02 10:29 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <LNP69.39068$Zl2.8531@sccrnsc02>
>
>Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
>Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>
>I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
>this question, so please give it your best shot.
>
>
>If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
>hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
>(or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
Good riddance.
Gregory Gadow
> In article <cMQ69.39460$Zl2.8705@sccrnsc02>,
> Arthur <sirarthur1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >"Bill Thacker" <w...@cbemi.cb.lucent.com> wrote in message
> >news:ajgk0a$s...@nntpb.cb.lucent.com...
> >>
> >> Now here's one for you. If I were to show you today that Jesus was
> >> clearly not the son of God, but was some kind of false prophet,
> >> what would you do:
> >>
> >i would stop being a christian (probably still be a theist though) Paul
> >himself addressed this in 1 Cor
>
> Mark 9
>
> 1 And he [Jesus]said to them, "I tell you the truth, some who are
> standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of
> God come with power."
>
> That was 2000 years ago, and the kingdom of God has not come with
> power.
<mode='satire'>
He has. The Book of Revelations was not a prophesy, it was a first hand
account. We and our world are the remnant of those who were left behind. You
weren't expecting a *literal* Lake of Fire, were you?
</mode>
Bill Thacker
Good point.
On today's "What If?", we examine the hypothetical scenario, "What
if the the USA sends a tank division to the Apocalypse?"
(James Earl Jones voiceover to artistic renderings of the Apocalypse)
When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for
about half an hour. And I saw the seven angels who stand before
God, and to them were given seven trumpets. Another angel, who had
a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much
incense to offer, with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden
altar before the throne. The smoke of the incense, together with
the prayers of the saints, went up before God from the angel's
hand. Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the
altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder,
rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake. Then the seven
angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to sound them.
But before they made a sound, the angels were beset by all manner
of fires and winds and arrows. For the thunder was not thunder, but
siege engines fully a third of a cubit in caliber, and their shells
did fall like the rains of spring. And the flashes were not of
lightning, but were the Hellfires, sallied forth from the
four-winged Apache beasts. And the earthquake was no earthquake,
for the dusts of the air did part and the iron chariots of the King
of the West appeared; from his command chariot their captain
cried, "Gunner, HEAT! Angel of God, fifteen hundred!" For his
legions were Abrams and they knew no fear. Like demons didst they
come on, spitting fire and shrieking, and inscribed upon them in cruel
runes were the words, "Second Armored Division - Hell on Wheels".
And the angels did pause but briefly, then they raised a finger
in curse and began to blow their trumpets. And as the first note
rent the air, then did the captain of the chariots cry, "All units,
commence firing, kick ass and take names!" Then as one did the
chariots fire their mighty bows, and flaming arrows screamed
across the land. And each arrow struck an angel, and every angel was
struck seven times seven times, and they did cry out, "O Holy Father,
what the fuck were you thinking of? Jesus Christ!"
And the angels did drop their trumpets with a mighty thud, and took
wing, trailing blood and their own waters as they sped hastily to
the heavens. As they ascended were they again beset by the Falcons
and Eagles and Hornets, and mightily they did suffer from missiles
up the kiester. At last they found refuge in God's bosom, and His
voice rang from the heavens like thunder. God spake, saying, "Son
of a bitch."
Then did the chariots turn upon the Four Riders, and Death, their
leader, spake saying, "My momma didn't raise no fools. We hashed out
this whole horses-versus-tanks thing back in 1939, so we'll just be
moseying along now. Have a nice eternity."
Jim Cowling
>hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the earth
>(or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>
I wouldn't trust the news alone; I'd have to have personal experience (my
sister and her family are gone? And most of the rest of her church? And eight
people didn't show up for work and there's no sign of them? Uh-oh.)
A few weeks of panicky news reports plus the above would do it for me. Yes,
I'd reconsider. However, I don't think the scenario is likely. :)
--
Spamblock: There is no 'p' in my address.
Beowulf
>"edvard_k" <add...@sig.com> wrote in message
>news:3d5bd393...@news.ntlworld.com...
>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:29:47 GMT, "Arthur"
><sirarthur1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Having answered a question in a thread below: "what would it take a
>> >Christian not to believe" I now pose a similar question to atheists.
>> >
>> >I was honest in my answer to this, and I am looking for honest answers to
>> >this question, so please give it your best shot.
>> >
>> >
>> >If you were to wake up tomorrow morning and you hear on the news that
>> >hundreds of millions of Christians have vanished from the face of the
>earth
>> >(or at least they seem to be), what would you think?
>> >
>> >- re-consider your position on the Judeo-Christian God?
>> >-assume a giant worldwide conspiracy?
>> >- hit the streets and celebrate Pakistani 9/11 style?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >what are your thoughts?
>>
>> I would consider this as reasonable evidence that something like the
>> god as depicted in the Bible and as interpreted by certain Christian
>> sects exists. Being a moral person I would naturaly join Satans army
>> to defeat it.
>>
>this response, actually is probably very accurate regarding how many would
>regard such an event. They would consider god immoral and attempt to seize
>power.
There's nothing to consider it is blatantly obvious to anyone with a
modicum of moral sense that the Christian god as it's depicted in the
Bible is immoral.
<URL:http://www20.brinkster.com/beowulf9/Gottod/Jesus%20Hates%20The%20Little%20Children.html>
>However, any finite attempt to overthrow infinite will certainly be
>futile.
So we should just go along with a murdering thug because he can hurt
us and we can't hurt him. Were you this "moral" before you became a
Christian?
-
"Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is no
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifiying to man, more repugnant
to reason, and more contradictory to itself than this thing called
Christianity."
--Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason)
