Is "The West" in terminal decline?

[Malcolm McMahon]

Is the current dire economic situation a crisis, or a decline? The new
reality? How will we make a living in a world full of people who work
harder, and cheaper, and and are often better educated than we are? Do
you know where the highest concentration of Ph.D.s per capital is? South
Korea.

[Irreverend Dave]

What percentage of them are actually working in the field that they studied
in? What percentage are driving taxis?


--
Men become civilized, not in proportion to their willingness to believe,
but in proportion to their readiness to doubt - Ambrose Bierce

[Dakota]

On 4/27/2013 8:46 AM, Irreverend Dave wrote:
> Malcolm McMahon <mal...@theriomorph.me.uk> wrote:
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>> Is the current dire economic situation a crisis, or a decline? The new
>> reality? How will we make a living in a world full of people who work
>> harder, and cheaper, and and are often better educated than we are? Do
>> you know where the highest concentration of Ph.D.s per capital is? South
>> Korea.
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> What percentage of them are actually working in the field that they studied
> in? What percentage are driving taxis?
>

It seems to me that the GOP's ill-conceived sequestration scheme will
put plenty of Ph.Ds behind the wheels of taxis here in the USA as well.

[linuxgal]

Dakota wrote:
> It seems to me that the GOP's ill-conceived sequestration scheme will
> put plenty of Ph.Ds behind the wheels of taxis here in the USA as well.

It was Obama's idea to reduce spending $85 billion below the budgeted
baseline, but the GOP will take what they can get.

--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0

[Malcolm McMahon]

On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:46:16 +0000, Irreverend Dave wrote:

> Malcolm McMahon <mal...@theriomorph.me.uk> wrote:
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>> Is the current dire economic situation a crisis, or a decline? The new
>> reality? How will we make a living in a world full of people who work
>> harder, and cheaper, and and are often better educated than we are? Do
>> you know where the highest concentration of Ph.D.s per capital is?
>> South Korea.
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> What percentage of them are actually working in the field that they
> studied in? What percentage are driving taxis?

It seems the me that Ph.Ds only wind up driving taxis when they emigrate
to the West where we're to racist for them to get a more serious job, but
where taxi driving pays more than being an engineering specialist back
home.

[linuxgal]

Malcolm McMahon wrote:
> It seems the me that Ph.Ds only wind up driving taxis when they emigrate
> to the West where we're to racist for them to get a more serious job, but
> where taxi driving pays more than being an engineering specialist back
> home.

Not much demand here for a PhD in Qu'ran Studies.

[Irreverend Dave]

What exactly is that you imagine that PhD's do for a living?

By the way, most engineers aren't PhD's.

[vivapa...@aol.com]

Why are we busy trying to leave cleaner air and cleaner water for our grandchildren when we're also going to be leaving them with a $25 trillion deficit?

Which is better, to be sick and rich or healthy and poor? Confucious say: Beats me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

But to answer your question, the world is in terminal decline.

[Les]

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:38:02 -0700, linuxgal <linu...@cleanposts.com>
wrote:

>Malcolm McMahon wrote:
>> It seems the me that Ph.Ds only wind up driving taxis when they emigrate
>> to the West where we're to racist for them to get a more serious job, but
>> where taxi driving pays more than being an engineering specialist back
>> home.
>
>Not much demand here for a PhD in Qu'ran Studies.

Know thine enemy

--
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"When you are in a crowd and you stand out from the
crowd it's ususually because you are being carried on
the shoulders of others."
- Desmond Tutu

[Malcolm McMahon]

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:07:08 +0000, Irreverend Dave wrote:

> Malcolm McMahon <mal...@theriomorph.me.uk> wrote:
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>> On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:46:16 +0000, Irreverend Dave wrote:
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>>> Malcolm McMahon <mal...@theriomorph.me.uk> wrote:
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>>>> Is the current dire economic situation a crisis, or a decline? The
>>>> new reality? How will we make a living in a world full of people who
>>>> work harder, and cheaper, and and are often better educated than we
>>>> are? Do you know where the highest concentration of Ph.D.s per
>>>> capital is? South Korea.
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>>> What percentage of them are actually working in the field that they
>>> studied in? What percentage are driving taxis?
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>> It seems the me that Ph.Ds only wind up driving taxis when they
>> emigrate to the West where we're to racist for them to get a more
>> serious job, but where taxi driving pays more than being an engineering
>> specialist back home.
>
> What exactly is that you imagine that PhD's do for a living?

Well, around here quite a lot of them seem to wind up in banking.

A more productive exercise is research.

What I'm trying to illustrate is that the advantage we once had in
education is pretty much over, and hence the idea that we can keep
ourselves in the style to which we've become accustomed in the "knowledge
economy" is probably a non-starter.

And even when living standards in places like South Korea rise, there
will be further waves of poor countries snapping at _their_ heals.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <286a0dd3-e0e4-4ac1...@googlegroups.com>,

You're a moron. And selfish and lazy.

The world may be in trouble and what's your response? Throw up your
hands and declare doom. Seriously? What the fuck is wrong with you?

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[Malcolm McMahon]

Actually, the world is doing pretty well. Believe it or not violence is at something approaching an all-time low. A larger fraction of the population have food security probably than at any point in the history of the human race. Irrational hatreds still exist, of course, but there's a pretty wide consensus that they are a bad idea. That would never have occurred to most people a couple of centuries ago.

And our problems in the West are largely a matter of the rest of the world catching up and, likely, overtaking us.

[vivapa...@aol.com]

It's that 'irrational' hatred that threatens to launch the nuclear missiles, or germ or chemical. Pick your poison. You can look at minor issues and say things are improving, but it's the big picture that counts.

Unfortunately you also have TOS, like Josef and Jeanne, but that's because of fear of the real world. Bad upbringing, I guess. If you can get me in touch with your parents I'll have a talk with them.

[Malcolm McMahon]

Which is why, since I judge those hatreds to be becoming less dominant, I think the world is a safer place today than it's been since the 60s.

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> Unfortunately you also have TOS, like Josef and Jeanne, but that's because of fear of the real world. Bad upbringing, I guess. If you can get me in touch with your parents I'll have a talk with them.

Actually it's the bunker mentality that's much more dangerous. Do unto others as they would do unto you, but do it _first_.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <e4e79a4b-62a6-4714...@googlegroups.com>,

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> , like Josef and Jeanne, but that's because of
> fear of the real world. Bad upbringing, I guess. If you can get me in touch
> with your parents I'll have a talk with them.

What fear of the real worl?

[vivapa...@aol.com]

The Ostrich Syndrome. If you don't see it, it's not really happening.

[David Canzi]

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I've seen the Google and the damage done...

--
David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. |

[Malcolm McMahon]

The conspiracy theory syndrome. It there's no evidence for it, then someone is hiding it.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <20987232-6868-437a...@googlegroups.com>,

Deflection noted. Deflection rejected. Why didn't you answer my question?

Try again:

> > What fear of the real world?