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Cloud Hobbit

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Dec 4, 2016, 5:40:50 PM12/4/16
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Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones.

The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are true.

Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
Nobody has proven or even found a shred of evidence for biblical creation.
Nobody has found a shred of evidence for a god or a creator.
Nobody has found a shred of evidence that Jesus ever lived.
Nobody has found any evidence of a Noah type flood.
In essence, none of the things these videos claim to prove is ever correct.
They are all propaganda pieces to try and fool stupid people without much science background.

There is also the problem of why a youtube video would be the place to hear about this stuff. The news is where you would here about any of this if it were true.
None of it is true. All of the people making these claims are liars or fools or both, mostly liars.

Forewarned is forearmed.

Saint Else Ware

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On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:40:50 PM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones.

And you need to know the above poster is the puppeteer of most of them, among most of the OP here.

Andrew

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"Cloud Hobbit" wrote in message news:7a81fd49-5f78-4e74...@googlegroups.com...

> Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being
> haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians
> and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones. The
> point is that these people are constantly making proclamations
> through links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things
> none of which are true.

If you know this to be a fact, then you need to specifically address
"exactly where" they are not true. If you cannot do this, then this
is evidence that you are deceived and are fighting against the truth.

You need to be specific.

Please!



Saint Else Ware

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i never have used this address yet

Old addresses

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Kevrob

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Dec 4, 2016, 7:10:00 PM12/4/16
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The newsgroup FAQ is here:

http://www.alt-atheism.org/

http://www.alt-atheism.org/atheism:faq

I consider posting an unidentified video link as your only content
to be spamming the group. In a text-based medium such as Usenet
newsgroups, at minimum writing a description is proper netiquette.

When all that's in the link is the poster's pet religious beliefs,
that's just off-charter proselytizing.

Kevin R


tHE NEWSGROUP faq

Saint Else Ware

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Dec 4, 2016, 7:15:54 PM12/4/16
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On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 4:10:00 PM UTC-8, Kevrob wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:40:50 PM UTC-5, Cloud Hobbit wrote:

> The newsgroup FAQ is here:

Stop posting to yourself, you fucking dufus ...

Cloud Hobbit

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Dec 4, 2016, 8:42:48 PM12/4/16
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And you need to know that you ae bat shit crazy and get yourself some mental health treatment. I do not now, nor have I ever had any sock puppets.

Cloud Hobbit

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Dec 4, 2016, 8:52:45 PM12/4/16
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On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 3:47:57 PM UTC-8, Andrew wrote:
> "Cloud Hobbit" wrote in message news:7a81fd49-5f78-4e74...@googlegroups.com...
>
> > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being
> > haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians
> > and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones. The
> > point is that these people are constantly making proclamations
> > through links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things
> > none of which are true.
>
> If you know this to be a fact, then you need to specifically address
> "exactly where" they are not true.

This is not the place for that. this is an atheist NG not a religious one. Go find some other people on a ng not for atheists and argue with them. This shit has been debunked here countless times. It is not our job to educate you. It is your job to not be stupid.

If you cannot do this, then this
> is evidence that you are deceived and are fighting against the truth.
>
No, it is evidence that I along with every other atheist on this NG is sick and tired of see crap that has no business here being posted for no other reason that to be annoying. It has nothing to do with atheism and you provide no evidence for any of your claims. There is nothing for me to point out. I am not making the religious belief claims. You are.

> You need to be specific.
>
> Please!

Specifically, you have not got a leg to stand on scientifically for any of the things you claim or link to.

You have no evidence of anything, no proof of anything and no interest from any of the atheists here. We've all heard it before and it's all been debunked before. It's you who has something to prove, not me and not any of the atheists here.

In short it's the same as always.
You have nothing.

jackpin...@gmail.com

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Dec 4, 2016, 9:23:17 PM12/4/16
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Cloud Hobbit
.......

You're trolling.

JTEM

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Cloud Hobbit wrote:

> Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.

Darwin's "Theory" was called "Pangenesis." It was
pseudo scientific garbage the likes of which you
would expect from a scientifically illiterate moron.

Oh. And he never used the word "Evolution" until
others corrected him. Darwin talked about "The
Transmutation of Species."

"Evolution" wasn't even Darwin's topic. Common
Descent was. And, "Evolution" was always a part of
Common Descent. Whales & Goat share a common
ancestor, so obviously they had both "Evolved" over
the time since that ancestor.

> Nobody has proven or even found a shred of evidence for biblical creation.

The collective itself has argued that the fact of
our existence *Is* "Evidence."

> Nobody has found a shred of evidence for a god or a creator.

Of course, you being mentally ill, you probably meant to say
"Proof" and only accidentally said "Evidence."

There's plenty of personal testimony, which meets or exceeds
the standard of evidence in every court of law on the planet,
as well as countless scientific studies.

> Nobody has found a shred of evidence that Jesus ever lived.

Again, you probably meant to say "Proof" and accidentally
typed "Evidence."

> Nobody has found any evidence of a Noah type flood.

You being an idiot I should probably tell you: NOBODY
except for religious fundamentalists believe in a
literally true bible.

> In essence, none of the things these videos claim to prove is ever correct.

Okay. And nothing you've said here is correct. So I
guess we can draw the exact same conclusion about you
as you do about the videos.

Congratulations.





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Irreverend Dave

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Dec 4, 2016, 11:51:32 PM12/4/16
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Saint Else Ware AKA Michael Yost has, in the last few weeks, posted with
at least four different nyms in this newsgroup and as such is an expert
on sockpuppets.



--
Only an idiot does not understand that religion is faith, not fact.
- Joe Bruno AKA Art Tandy


Christopher A. Lee

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Dec 5, 2016, 1:04:09 AM12/5/16
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On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 04:50:10 -0000 (UTC), Irreverend Dave
<revere...@ministerpants.com> wrote:

>Only an idiot does not understand that religion is faith, not fact.
>- Joe Bruno AKA Art Tandy

Which is why he talks as if Moses and the Exodus were fact.

Kevrob

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Dec 5, 2016, 5:42:20 AM12/5/16
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On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 11:51:32 PM UTC-5, Irreverend Dave wrote:
> Cloud Hobbit <youngbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 3:32:36 PM UTC-8, Saint Else Ware
> > wrote:
> >> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:40:50 PM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> >> > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being
> >> > haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians and
> >> > fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones.
> >>
> >> And you need to know the above poster is the puppeteer of most of
> >> them, among most of the OP here.
> >
> > And you need to know that you ae bat shit crazy and get yourself some
> > mental health treatment. I do not now, nor have I ever had any sock
> > puppets.
> >
>
> Saint Else Ware AKA Michael Yost has, in the last few weeks, posted with
> at least four different nyms in this newsgroup and as such is an expert
> on sockpuppets.
>

To trolls with a drawer full of sock puppets, any two posters who
tend to agree look like puppets. I am not C. Hobbit, nor is he me.

He does seem like an excellent fellow, though.

SEWer? Not so much.

Kevin R

Tim

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Dec 5, 2016, 6:17:56 AM12/5/16
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AFAIK, you're the only known sockpuppet here.

duke

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Dec 5, 2016, 8:28:06 AM12/5/16
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On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 14:40:48 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit <youngbl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones.
>
>The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are true.

I for one am a devout Christian trying to help the atheists committing spiritual
suicide.

>Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
>Nobody has proven or even found a shred of evidence for biblical creation.
>Nobody has found a shred of evidence for a god or a creator.
>Nobody has found a shred of evidence that Jesus ever lived.
>Nobody has found any evidence of a Noah type flood.
>In essence, none of the things these videos claim to prove is ever correct.
>They are all propaganda pieces to try and fool stupid people without much science background.

Nobody has debunked God.

>There is also the problem of why a youtube video would be the place to hear about this stuff. The news is where you would here about any of this if it were true.
>None of it is true. All of the people making these claims are liars or fools or both, mostly liars.
>Forewarned is forearmed.

Ooooooooohhhhhhhhh. I'm scared.

the dukester, American-American

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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

duke

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Dec 5, 2016, 8:28:55 AM12/5/16
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On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 16:09:57 -0800 (PST), Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:40:50 PM UTC-5, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
>> Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones.
>>
>> The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are true.
>>
>> Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
>> Nobody has proven or even found a shred of evidence for biblical creation.
>> Nobody has found a shred of evidence for a god or a creator.
>> Nobody has found a shred of evidence that Jesus ever lived.
>> Nobody has found any evidence of a Noah type flood.
>> In essence, none of the things these videos claim to prove is ever correct.
>> They are all propaganda pieces to try and fool stupid people without much science background.
>>
>> There is also the problem of why a youtube video would be the place to hear about this stuff. The news is where you would here about any of this if it were true.
>> None of it is true. All of the people making these claims are liars or fools or both, mostly liars.
>>
>> Forewarned is forearmed
>
>The newsgroup FAQ is here:

h7 says I'm welcome to post here.

>http://www.alt-atheism.org/
>
>http://www.alt-atheism.org/atheism:faq
>
>I consider posting an unidentified video link as your only content
>to be spamming the group. In a text-based medium such as Usenet
>newsgroups, at minimum writing a description is proper netiquette.
>
>When all that's in the link is the poster's pet religious beliefs,
>that's just off-charter proselytizing.
>
>Kevin R
>
>
>tHE NEWSGROUP faq

Tim

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Dec 5, 2016, 8:42:04 AM12/5/16
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On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:28:06 AM UTC-5, duke wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 14:40:48 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit <youngbl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones.
> >
> >The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are true.
>
> I for one am a devout Christian trying to help the atheists committing spiritual
> suicide.

You did that yourself when you called your president "buckwheat". You can't help yourself let alone others.

Tim

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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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h7 also says that you're fat and stupid.


Saint Else Ware

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Dec 5, 2016, 12:46:30 PM12/5/16
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LOL.

Nobody forget these denials.

%

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there are lots of over weight people ,
right here in this group and you still have to ,
be racist against then

Tim

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LOL! You don't know what the word racist means, you fat, politically correct fluffer gimp.

%

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nice of you to call me correct foot face

We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews

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On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:40:50 PM UTC-5, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones.
>
> The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are true.
>
> Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.


You will die.... See evolution couldn't evolve you no matter how many kind words you say about Darwin



> Nobody has proven or even found a shred of evidence for biblical creation.



This is what Messiah was supposed to do and He did. He confirmed Moses and brought in new revelations.



> Nobody has found a shred of evidence for a god or a creator.



JESUS IS THE GOD CREATOR, THIS IS THE REVELATION FROM THE BIBLE YOU BELIEVE TO HAVE READ.



> Nobody has found a shred of evidence that Jesus ever lived.


The Messiah must be born into the world according to the Hebraic "Constitution" i.e the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an confirmed that He was born through the VIRGIN MARY.
Jerusalem was sacked and Jews scattered among nations as a punishment for violating the COVENANT because rejecting the Messiah was for God a violation of the TREATY(Covenant). Jews lost the promised land for doing so.
Now you cannot reject something that doesn't exist, can you?



> Nobody has found any evidence of a Noah type flood.



Why are you so immune to learning....




> In essence, none of the things these videos claim to prove is ever correct.


Like what?




> They are all propaganda pieces to try and fool stupid people without much science background.



Science cannot prove REVELATION OR DISPROVE IT. For something which happened in the past what we need is REVELATION OR HISTORY OR BOTH.


>
> There is also the problem of why a youtube video would be the place to hear about this stuff. The news is where you would here about any of this if it were true.



What News????? Ummmmmmm.......


> None of it is true. All of the people making these claims are liars or fools or both, mostly liars.


Or you are liar or fool or both.


>
> Forewarned is forearmed.



YOU ARE FOREWARNED THAT YOU WILL END UP IN HELL.

Kevrob

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Dec 5, 2016, 4:07:12 PM12/5/16
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I'm not fat. I'm gravitationally enhanced.

Earl, nobody is committing "spiritual suicide." The kind of "spirit"
you believe in would have to exist for that to be possible.

Since you are a troll, you are violating the charter of this group.
What mkes you a troll is your constant tub-thumping for your historically
important, but _untrue_ cult.

[quote]

"Proselytizing of ANY religion is NOT welcome!
(Those guilty of this bad nettiquette will be treated as they deserve!)

[/quote]

You've got a bad case of "the rules don't apply to me."

I don't stroll up the center aisle of a church on Sunday morning
and harangue the priest in his pulpit. I'd get arrested for
disturbing the peace, and I'd rather watch the political talking
head shows and eat a leisurely breakfast. What you do is the
electronic equivalent. And for what, to get us mentally enslaved
to a ridiculous belief system? No swutting thanks.

Kevin R



Kevin R

Saint Else Ware

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On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 1:07:12 PM UTC-8, Kevrob wrote:


> I'm not fat. I'm gravitationally enhanced.

stop soaking up all the gravity waves ...

Tim

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You're a correct foot face and a fluffer gimp. LOL!!!

Andrew

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"Kevrob" wrote in message news:a77dadba-70d8-4cdf...@googlegroups.com...

> I'm not fat. I'm gravitationally enhanced.

Euphemisms won't save you from
the pathological consequences of
your condition.



%

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Jeanne Douglas

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Dec 5, 2016, 5:48:19 PM12/5/16
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In article <930eb4c2-1f49-4684...@googlegroups.com>,
We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews <maca...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:40:50 PM UTC-5, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by
> > several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and
> > maybe one or two actual ones.
> >
> > The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through
> > links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are
> > true.
> >
> > Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
>
>
> You will die.... See evolution couldn't evolve you no matter how many kind
> words you say about Darwin


What does death have to do with evolution?

--

JD


I'm a "nasty woman" and I vote.

Saint Else Ware

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Dec 5, 2016, 5:50:43 PM12/5/16
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If something didn't survive, or went extinct, it did not evolve.

Kevrob

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Dec 5, 2016, 5:53:46 PM12/5/16
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So, when you say "person of faith" and I hear "gullible sucker,"
yo know what I mean?

Kevin R

Kevrob

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Dec 5, 2016, 5:54:24 PM12/5/16
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Or something else evolved _more successfully_.

Kevin R

Saint Else Ware

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Dec 5, 2016, 5:58:04 PM12/5/16
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you mean it survived.

perhaps there is something which can fixate positive traits ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pea#Peas_in_science

Mendel chose peas for his experiments because he could grow them easily, develop pure-bred strains, protect them from cross-pollination, and control their pollination. Mendel cross-bred tall and dwarf pea plants, green and yellow peas, purple and white flowers, wrinkled and smooth peas, and a few other traits. He then observed the resulting offspring. In each of these cases, one trait is dominant and all the offspring, or Filial-1 (abbreviated F1) generation, showed the dominant trait. Then he crossed members of the F1 generation together and observed their offspring, the Filial-2 (abbreviated F2) generation. The F2 plants had the dominant trait in approximately a 3:1 ratio. Mendel reasoned that each parent had a 'vote' in the appearance of the offspring, and the non-dominant, or recessive, trait appeared only when it was inherited from both parents. He did further experiments that showed each trait is separately inherited. Unwittingly, Mendel had solved a major problem with Charles Darwin's theory of evolution: how new traits were preserved and not blended back into the population, a question Darwin himself did not answer

Tim

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Honest of you to admit that you're a foot face and a fluffer gimp.

Tim

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Dec 5, 2016, 8:03:49 PM12/5/16
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Death is evolution's way of making room.

Rick Johnson

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On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 9:17:03 PM UTC-6, JTEM wrote:
> Cloud Hobbit wrote:
[...]
> > Nobody has found a shred of evidence for a god or a
> > creator.
>
> [...] There's plenty of personal testimony, which meets or
> exceeds the standard of evidence in every court of law on
> the planet, as well as countless scientific studies.

"Personal testimony"? Hmm, is that the same kind of personal
testimony we hear from those who have been "allegedly"
abducted, and then anal-probed by gray aliens?

Andrew

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"Kevrob" wrote in message news:9ba6b725-ba0e-4d96...@googlegroups.com...
> Andrew wrote:
>> "Kevrob" wrote:
>>
>> > I'm not fat. I'm gravitationally enhanced.
>>
>> Euphemisms won't save you from
>> the pathological consequences of
>> your condition.
>
> So, when you say "person of faith"
> and I hear "gullible sucker,"
> yo know what I mean?

A Darwinist.



Andrew

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"Cloud Hobbit" wrote in message news:a7e6eac1-2fa8-4e54...@googlegroups.com...
> Andrew wrote:
>> "Cloud Hobbit" wrote:
>>
>> > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being
>> > haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians
>> > and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones. The
>> > point is that these people are constantly making proclamations
>> > through links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things
>> > none of which are true.
>>
>> If you know this to be a fact, then you need to specifically address
>> "exactly where" they are not true.
>
> This is not the place for that. this is an atheist NG

You therefore testify that you are 'unable' to defend your
position. Which is evidence that your worldview is false.


JTEM

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Rick Johnson wrote:

> "Personal testimony"? Hmm, is that

Oh wow you said that and now, suddenly, no court of
law anywhere on the planet accepts testimony as
evidence, and all scientific studies have likewise
forever banned it. That, or I'm being sarcastic and
you are a self-important idiot.




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JTEM

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Tim wrote:

> Death is evolution's way of making room.

You're describing Creationism/ID, you shit head.
Must admit though, I can't claim to be surprised.




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JTEM

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REMINDER: Darwin's "Theory" was called "Pangenesis,"
and it was pseudo scientific garbage, to put it
mildly.

Saint Else Ware wrote:
> Unwittingly, Mendel had solved a major problem with Charles
> Darwin's theory of evolution:

That was never his theory.

"Origin of Species" was about Common Descent. Common
Descent was NOT his idea. It was already old before
he made the mistake of writing about it.

It's true that "Evolution" was always a part of Common
Descent, but Darwin was clueless. He talked about "The
Transmutation of Species," and he believed that an
animal passed on traits it acquired in it's lifetime.

The fairy tale claims that Darwin was never ever
exposed to Mendel, but in reality he was,m and quite
early on it seems. Darwin was such a snob though, not
to mention scientifically illiterate, that he ignored
Mendel.





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http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/154057030866

Joe Bruno

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Dec 6, 2016, 4:39:32 AM12/6/16
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On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:40:50 PM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones.
>
> The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are true.
>
> Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
> Nobody has proven or even found a shred of evidence for biblical creation.
> Nobody has found a shred of evidence for a god or a creator.
> Nobody has found a shred of evidence that Jesus ever lived.
> Nobody has found any evidence of a Noah type flood.
> In essence, none of the things these videos claim to prove is ever correct.
> They are all propaganda pieces to try and fool stupid people without much science background.
>
> There is also the problem of why a youtube video would be the place to hear about this stuff. The news is where you would here about any of this if it were true.
> None of it is true. All of the people making these claims are liars or fools or both, mostly liars.
>
> Forewarned is forearmed.

Where is the evidence to support your claims?

Joe Bruno

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On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 10:04:09 PM UTC-8, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 04:50:10 -0000 (UTC), Irreverend Dave
> <revere...@ministerpants.com> wrote:
>
> >Only an idiot does not understand that religion is faith, not fact.
> >- Joe Bruno AKA Art Tandy
>
> Which is why he talks as if Moses and the Exodus were fact.

I supply evidence, something you don't understand.

Kevrob

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Dec 6, 2016, 5:27:49 AM12/6/16
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"Darwinist" makes about as much sense as calling someone who
accepts atomic theory a "Leucippite."*

Kevin R

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucippus

Tim

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On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 12:19:04 AM UTC-5, JTEM wrote:
> Tim wrote:
>
> > Death is evolution's way of making room.
>
> You're describing Creationism/ID, you shit head.
> Must admit though, I can't claim to be surprised.
>
>

You're talking shit, as usual, dowser faggot.

Mitchell Holman

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Joe Bruno <ajtan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a3bbe839-5019-4c92...@googlegroups.com:
"There simply is no evidence that would
give a rational person, any reason to
believe in a deity."
Joe Bruno Dec 20 2015
http://tinyurl.com/zfjxx98

Mitchell Holman

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Joe Bruno <ajtan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:303d71f9-8f95-4a9c...@googlegroups.com:
There is no evidence of Exodus.






Exodus: Evidence that Demands a Verdict
04-01-2015

"I hate to disappoint people, but we have no
evidence of a mass migration of people from
one people coming into another country,"
University of Haifa archaeologist Norma
Franklin states in the film. "I don't believe
there was a single event that we can call the
Exodus."

Egyptologist Maarten Raven, curator of the Leiden
Museum in the Netherlands, also doubts the biblical
account. "This person [Moses] could not have seen
all this. He imagined it"

"I'm very much against chronicle revisionism," said
James K. Hoffmeier, Egyptologist and professor of
Old Testament and Near Eastern Archaeology at
Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield,
Illinois.

Egyptologist Mansour Boraik, director general of
Antiquities at Luxor, maintains "there's no
documented evidence about the Exodus."

And Tel Aviv University archaeologist Israel
Finkelstein concludes "[The] Exodus did not happen
in the way that it is described in the text."

http://tinyurl.com/p2kkqmz


Odd Bodkin

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Just to be clear, you are speaking strictly for yourself, not for me or
any other atheist on the group unless a particular person specifically
agrees with you.

What is certainly true is that any given atheist can specify that in
order to be convinced, evidence backing up the assertion needs to be
presented in a compelling way before the truth of the proposition would
be believed. However, if I were the one saying that, I would be speaking
about what would be needed for ME to believe that proposition.

What is incorrect is to say that there is consensus that the proposition
is FALSE if the compelling evidence is not presented. It is just not a
universally accepted "law" that things are false unless there is
evidence compelling enough to convince everyone that they are true.
That's an unrealistic and extreme line to draw.

So in this particular case, his being unable to defend his position is
NOT evidence that his worldview is false. It is enough to say that he
has not made enough of a case that his worldview should be accepted by you.


--
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Christopher A. Lee

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On Tue, 06 Dec 2016 07:29:54 -0600, Mitchell Holman
<noe...@verizont.net> wrote:

>Joe Bruno <ajtan...@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:303d71f9-8f95-4a9c...@googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 10:04:09 PM UTC-8, Christopher A. Lee
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 04:50:10 -0000 (UTC), Irreverend Dave
>>> <revere...@ministerpants.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Only an idiot does not understand that religion is faith, not fact.
>>> >- Joe Bruno AKA Art Tandy
>>>
>>> Which is why he talks as if Moses and the Exodus were fact.
>>
>> I supply evidence, something you don't understand.

The proven serial liar has done no such thing, because he pretends
that a mention in literature a thousand years after the claimed
events, is somehow evidence for them.
He's been given this sort of thing over and over again - both the
statements of Israeli archaeologists and the obvious logistic
problems,

But instead of addressing any of these, he simply repeats his same old
nonsense, laced with personal lies.

He Kicked Their Jewish Butts Out Of The Land

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It could evolve you in other species and still make room, couldn't it?
We have no problem with death per se, mind you, because for us it's a door to another life.
It's those evolutionist loonies who complain constantly why people die If God is so just. Now you have an answer for them. Still we would like to know
WHY EVOLUTION NEEDS TO MAKE ROOM IN THE LIMITLESS UNIVERSE?

Malcolm McMahon

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On Sunday, 4 December 2016 23:47:57 UTC, Andrew wrote:
> "Cloud Hobbit" wrote in message news:7a81fd49-5f78-4e74...@googlegroups.com...
>
> > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being
> > haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians
> > and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones. The
> > point is that these people are constantly making proclamations
> > through links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things
> > none of which are true.
>
> If you know this to be a fact, then you need to specifically address
> "exactly where" they are not true. If you cannot do this, then this
> is evidence that you are deceived and are fighting against the truth.
>

I've never known _you_ to address any evidence presented _against_ creationism. You just ignore any argument and restate your position unaltered.

I've never seen you admit you were wrong, granted not many do around here.

Tim

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Dec 6, 2016, 11:47:24 AM12/6/16
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On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 10:56:18 AM UTC-5, He Kicked Their Jewish Butts Out Of The Land wrote:
> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:03:49 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
> > On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 5:48:19 PM UTC-5, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > > In article <930eb4c2-1f49-4684...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews <maca...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:40:50 PM UTC-5, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > > > > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by
> > > > > several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and
> > > > > maybe one or two actual ones.
> > > > >
> > > > > The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through
> > > > > links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are
> > > > > true.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You will die.... See evolution couldn't evolve you no matter how many kind
> > > > words you say about Darwin
> > >
> > >
> > > What does death have to do with evolution?
> > >
> >
> > Death is evolution's way of making room.
>
>
>
> It could evolve you in other species and still make room, couldn't it?

Individuals don't evolve. Why is it that people like you, i.e. rabid anti-evolution theist nutters, never have a clue about evolution?

> We have no problem with death per se, mind you, because for us it's a door to another life.

No, see it's real simple. Death is the end of life, not a new one. Just ask any dead person, you'll see.

> It's those evolutionist loonies who complain constantly why people die If God is so just. Now you have an answer for them. Still we would like to know
> WHY EVOLUTION NEEDS TO MAKE ROOM IN THE LIMITLESS UNIVERSE?

Go find some room in space and see how well you fare.

Saint Else Ware

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Evolution has no monopoly on anything else.

You have brain damage.

Death would exist whether evolution occurs or doesn't.

Tim

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Says kook man.

>
> Death would exist whether evolution occurs or doesn't.

Where? What's alive that didn't evolve, kook?

Saint Else Ware

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Whatever, light speed.

Fidem Turbāre

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On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 3:32:36 PM UTC-8, Saint Else Ware wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:40:50 PM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones.
>
> And you need to know the above poster is the puppeteer of most of them, among most of the OP here.

Sock puppets are likely to outlive everyone.

http://www.lumbercartel.ca/glossary/sockpuppet.pl

--
Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
http://www.atheistgoddess.com/
"Deuteronomy 25:11 is like one of those bizarre blue laws still on the books in 400 year old New England towns, like 'You can't play the flute [on] Tuesday wearing one red sock.' You know there's got to be one hell of a story behind it."
-- John Bennett (September 12, 2013; regarding silly passages in the Holy Bible)

Saint Else Ware

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On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 1:05:53 PM UTC-8, Fidem Turbāre wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 3:32:36 PM UTC-8, Saint Else Ware wrote:
> > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 2:40:50 PM UTC-8, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones.
> >
> > And you need to know the above poster is the puppeteer of most of them, among most of the OP here.
>
> Sock puppets are likely to outlive everyone.
>
> http://www.lumbercartel.ca/glossary/sockpuppet.pl

They won't outlive the destruction of the planet ...

Evolve This

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On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 11:47:24 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 10:56:18 AM UTC-5, He Kicked Their Jewish Butts Out Of The Land wrote:
> > On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:03:49 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
> > > On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 5:48:19 PM UTC-5, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > > > In article <930eb4c2-1f49-4684...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > > We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews <maca...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:40:50 PM UTC-5, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > > > > > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by
> > > > > > several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and
> > > > > > maybe one or two actual ones.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through
> > > > > > links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are
> > > > > > true.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You will die.... See evolution couldn't evolve you no matter how many kind
> > > > > words you say about Darwin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What does death have to do with evolution?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Death is evolution's way of making room.
> >
> >
> >
> > It could evolve you in other species and still make room, couldn't it?
>
> Individuals don't evolve. Why is it that people like you, i.e. rabid anti-evolution theist nutters, never have a clue about evolution?



How did the individual lose its tail?




>
> > We have no problem with death per se, mind you, because for us it's a door to another life.
>
> No, see it's real simple. Death is the end of life, not a new one. Just ask any dead person, you'll see.



Jesus came back to life and before ascending into heaven told us that death was NOT the end. That's revelation. I go with JESUS




>
> > It's those evolutionist loonies who complain constantly why people die If God is so just. Now you have an answer for them. Still we would like to know
> > WHY EVOLUTION NEEDS TO MAKE ROOM IN THE LIMITLESS UNIVERSE?


>
> Go find some room in space and see how well you fare.




Just answer my question, WHY YOU GUYS ARE SO AFRAID OF DEATH If it is a mandate from evolution to make room?
Wouldn't that be better to decimate the Syrians to make room for better species? And you think that evolution is not responsible for the cruelties around the wold? The survival of the fittest is NO damn science. Get over it.




Tim

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On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 11:13:42 AM UTC-5, Evolve This wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 11:47:24 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 10:56:18 AM UTC-5, He Kicked Their Jewish Butts Out Of The Land wrote:
> > > On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 8:03:49 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
> > > > On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 5:48:19 PM UTC-5, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > > > > In article <930eb4c2-1f49-4684...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews <maca...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:40:50 PM UTC-5, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > > > > > > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by
> > > > > > > several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and
> > > > > > > maybe one or two actual ones.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through
> > > > > > > links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are
> > > > > > > true.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You will die.... See evolution couldn't evolve you no matter how many kind
> > > > > > words you say about Darwin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What does death have to do with evolution?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Death is evolution's way of making room.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It could evolve you in other species and still make room, couldn't it?
> >
> > Individuals don't evolve. Why is it that people like you, i.e. rabid anti-evolution theist nutters, never have a clue about evolution?
>
>
>
> How did the individual lose its tail?

It evolved into a tail bone.

>
>
>
>
> >
> > > We have no problem with death per se, mind you, because for us it's a door to another life.
> >
> > No, see it's real simple. Death is the end of life, not a new one. Just ask any dead person, you'll see.
>
>
>
> Jesus came back to life and before ascending into heaven told us that death was NOT the end. That's revelation. I go with JESUS
>

You can go with any myth you like. I go with reality.

>
>
>
> >
> > > It's those evolutionist loonies who complain constantly why people die If God is so just. Now you have an answer for them. Still we would like to know
> > > WHY EVOLUTION NEEDS TO MAKE ROOM IN THE LIMITLESS UNIVERSE?
>
>
> >
> > Go find some room in space and see how well you fare.
>
>
>
>
> Just answer my question, WHY YOU GUYS ARE SO AFRAID OF DEATH If it is a mandate from evolution to make room?

I'm not afraid of it.

> Wouldn't that be better to decimate the Syrians to make room for better species? And you think that evolution is not responsible for the cruelties around the wold? The survival of the fittest is NO damn science. Get over it.

Well, if you're correct, then your god is responsible. Deal with it.

JTEM

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Kevrob wrote:

> "Darwinist" makes about as much sense as calling someone who
> accepts atomic theory a "Leucippite."*

No it doesn't. "Atomic Theory" actually exists.

Darwin didn't discover much less invent evolution. The
man struck out to assert his ownership/claim of "Common
Descent," which he did a remarkably poor job at
DESCRIBING. He never said "Evolution," not until others
corrected him, he spoke of "The Transmutation of Species."

And, no, "Transmutation" does *Not* translate to "Evolution,"
not in the case of Darwin. He did not mean what modern
people mean.

Next, having unsuccessfully described Common Descent he
tried to EXPLAIN it. *This* is where evolution would fit
in. WOULD fit in, if Darwin had a goddamn clue but he
didn't so instead he invented his "Theory of Pangenesis,"
which was scientific illiteracy incarnate.

So, quite literally, if we say that a person who believes
in Darwin & "Darwinian Evolution" is a Darwinist, then
we are saying that morons who believe in a fairy tale are
"Darwinists."




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http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/154138516212

JTEM

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Obsessed with JTEM, Tim wrote:

> You're

*Everything* is about me, isn't it?






-- --

http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/154138516212

Tim

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On Wednesday, December 7, 2016 at 2:42:56 PM UTC-5, JTEM wrote:
> Obsessed with JTEM, Tim wrote:
>
> > You're
>
> *Everything* is about me, isn't it.

According to you, but not in reality. You're mad at your make believe god for making you gay, you silly faggot.

JTEM

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Obsessed with JTEM, Tim wrote:

> According to you

It always comeone back to me... always.




-- --

http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/153183253078

Tim

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"JTEM" <jte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fbdd16b7-562d-4812...@googlegroups.com...
> Obsessed with JTEM, Tim wrote:
>
>> According to you
>
> It always comeone back to me... always.
>

Who comes on your back? You tell me. Take that pillow out of you mouth and
turn around. That's who comes on your back, faggot.

duke

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On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 12:28:58 -0500, "Tim" <a...@qwe.com> wrote:

>
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:grqa4c1p0tujpcb5n...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 16:09:57 -0800 (PST), Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:40:50 PM UTC-5, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
>>>> Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted
>>>> by several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists
>>>> and maybe one or two actual ones.
>>>>
>>>> The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations
>>>> through links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of
>>>> which are true.
>>>>
>>>> Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
>>>> Nobody has proven or even found a shred of evidence for biblical
>>>> creation.
>>>> Nobody has found a shred of evidence for a god or a creator.
>>>> Nobody has found a shred of evidence that Jesus ever lived.
>>>> Nobody has found any evidence of a Noah type flood.
>>>> In essence, none of the things these videos claim to prove is ever
>>>> correct.
>>>> They are all propaganda pieces to try and fool stupid people without
>>>> much science background.
>>>>
>>>> There is also the problem of why a youtube video would be the place to
>>>> hear about this stuff. The news is where you would here about any of
>>>> this if it were true.
>>>> None of it is true. All of the people making these claims are liars or
>>>> fools or both, mostly liars.
>>>>
>>>> Forewarned is forearmed
>>>
>>>The newsgroup FAQ is here:
>>
>> h7 says I'm welcome to post here.
>
>h7 also says that you're fat and stupid.

She went into the hospital and had 90 pounds of fat removed. I truly hope it
makes her feel better.

the dukester, American-American

*****
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Pope Paul VI
*****

Tim

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You could lose 300 lbs and you'd still be fat.

JTEM

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I am what gives life a purpose.




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Tim

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On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 10:20:31 AM UTC-5, JTEM wrote:
> I am what gives life a purpose.

How does being a faggot give life a purpose?

Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus

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On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 5:48:19 PM UTC-5, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <930eb4c2-1f49-4684...@googlegroups.com>,
> We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews <maca...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:40:50 PM UTC-5, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by
> > > several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and
> > > maybe one or two actual ones.
> > >
> > > The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through
> > > links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are
> > > true.
> > >
> > > Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
> >
> >
> > You will die.... See evolution couldn't evolve you no matter how many kind
> > words you say about Darwin
>
>
> What does death have to do with evolution?
>



What does evolution have in common with procreation?



> --
>
> JD
>
>
> I'm a "nasty woman" and I vote.

Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus

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Now evolution is about individual? I thought you said individual doesn't evolve? Individual cannot evolve but he can still lose his tail?

Tim

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Procreation allows two different sets of genes to combine into a third set. So it's essential to the evolutionary process. How you can not know that and at the same time be critical of evolution is beyond me.

Tim

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Who said that and where'd they say it?

> I thought you said individual doesn't evolve?

Where did I say that an individual evolves?


>Individual cannot evolve but he can still lose his tail?

Where did you lose yours? Falling out of a stupid tree?

Saint Else Ware

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_reproduction

Asexual reproduction is a type of reproduction by which offspring arise from a single organism, and inherit the genes of that parent only; it does not involve the fusion of gametes, and almost never changes the number of chromosomes. Asexual reproduction is the primary form of reproduction for single-celled organisms such as the Archaea and bacteria. Many plants and fungi reproduce asexually as well.

Tim

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendicant

A mendicant (from Latin: mendicans, "begging") is one who practices mendicancy (begging) and relies chiefly or exclusively on charitable donations to survive. In principle, mendicant religious orders do not own property, either individually or collectively, and members have taken a vow of poverty, in order that all their time and energy could be expended on practicing or preaching and serving the poor. It is a form of asceticism.

Saint Else Ware

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On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 9:58:50 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
> On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 12:52:52 PM UTC-5, Saint Else Ware wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 8:08:00 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 10:46:33 AM UTC-5, Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus wrote:
> > > > On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 5:48:19 PM UTC-5, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > > > > In article <930eb4c2-1f49-4684...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews <maca...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:40:50 PM UTC-5, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > > > > > > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by
> > > > > > > several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and
> > > > > > > maybe one or two actual ones.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through
> > > > > > > links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are
> > > > > > > true.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You will die.... See evolution couldn't evolve you no matter how many kind
> > > > > > words you say about Darwin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What does death have to do with evolution?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What does evolution have in common with procreation?
> > >
> > > Procreation allows two different sets of genes to combine into a third set. So it's essential to the evolutionary process. How you can not know that and at the same time be critical of evolution is beyond me.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_reproduction
> >
> > Asexual reproduction is a type of reproduction by which offspring arise from a single organism, and inherit the genes of that parent only; it does not involve the fusion of gametes, and almost never changes the number of chromosomes. Asexual reproduction is the primary form of reproduction for single-celled organisms such as the Archaea and bacteria. Many plants and fungi reproduce asexually as well.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendicant

What does that word have anything to do with your being wrong about science ?

Tim

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Where was I wrong?

Saint Else Ware

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I know you lack comprehension, donkey brained gimp fluffer ...

duke

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Dec 8, 2016, 1:16:25 PM12/8/16
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H7 lost 90.

Tim

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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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That won't help you, fat boy. If you're right about god then you're off to
hell for being a glutton, deadly sinner.


Tim

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Dec 8, 2016, 2:49:44 PM12/8/16
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"Saint Else Ware" <t2jud...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0125a330-014a-4b92...@googlegroups.com...
> On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 10:07:19 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:

>> Where was I wrong?
>
> I know you lack comprehension, donkey brained gimp fluffer ...

Your evasion is noted, kook.

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Dec 8, 2016, 2:55:17 PM12/8/16
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hi foot face

Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus

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Dec 8, 2016, 2:57:11 PM12/8/16
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On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 11:12:30 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:

>
> >Individual cannot evolve but he can still lose his tail?
>
> Where did you lose yours? Falling out of a stupid tree?




You are asking me? Seriously? When did I ever tell you that I believe that man evolved from a drunk monkey?

Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus

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Dec 8, 2016, 3:00:44 PM12/8/16
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Either you believe in procreation or in Evolution. Not both. See how stupid you can get trying hard to make your dogma fits?
SCIENCE shouldn't be about Dogmas....

John Locke

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Dec 8, 2016, 3:24:42 PM12/8/16
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On Mon, 05 Dec 2016 07:28:00 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 14:40:48 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit <youngbl...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by several people
> pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones.
>>
>>The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through links to YouTube
> videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are true.
>
>I for one am a devout Christian trying to help the atheists committing spiritual
>suicide.
>
>>Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
>>Nobody has proven or even found a shred of evidence for biblical creation.
>>Nobody has found a shred of evidence for a god or a creator.
>>Nobody has found a shred of evidence that Jesus ever lived.
>>Nobody has found any evidence of a Noah type flood.
>>In essence, none of the things these videos claim to prove is ever correct.
>>They are all propaganda pieces to try and fool stupid people without much science background.
>
>Nobody has debunked God.
>
...well, actually we have but we don't really need to. The total lack
of evidence makes it blatantly self-evident that the probability for
the existence of your god is near zero. Place your bet. The bookies
will give you a billion to one odds.

>>There is also the problem of why a youtube video would be the place to hear about this stuff.
> The news is where you would here about any of this if it were true.
>>None of it is true. All of the people making these claims are liars or fools or both, mostly liars.
>>Forewarned is forearmed.
>
>Ooooooooohhhhhhhhh. I'm scared.
>
...you would be if that imaginary pyscho monster god of
yours were real. Just be glad it's all a bunch of hokum.

Saint Else Ware

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Dec 8, 2016, 3:40:40 PM12/8/16
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Get back in the box, fluffer gimp, until your mom learns to fuck kangaroos ...

hypatiab7

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Dec 8, 2016, 4:11:22 PM12/8/16
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> >> >>>The newsgroup FAQ is here:

http://alt-atheism.org/atheism:faq

> >> >>
> >> >> h7 says I'm welcome to post here.

Who wrote this? I can't tell if the attributions are correct anymore.
If it's Tim, of course he's welcome - as an atheist regular, just like
any other atheist regular. If it's Earl, he is NOT welcome, since he is
a well known troll who ignores what the current FAQ says. Trolls are NOT
welcome and are to be treated as they deserve.
> >> >
> >> >h7 also says that you're fat and stupid.
> >>
> >> She went into the hospital and had 90 pounds of fat removed. I truly hope it makes her feel better.
> >
> >You could lose 300 lbs and you'd still be fat.
>
> H7 lost 90.
>
That's right. I did. It took five years to do it. And my hospitalizations
had nothing to do with it. Poor Earl is simply jealous. (Actually, I gained
weight when I was in the hospital due to all the liquids they pumped into my veins. I had to take that off again every time.)

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Dec 8, 2016, 4:36:48 PM12/8/16
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are you still fat you sound fat

Tim

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Dec 8, 2016, 4:39:42 PM12/8/16
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Just admit that you couldn't answer and keep your beastiality fantasies to yourself, sock-puppet kook.

Tim

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Dec 8, 2016, 4:42:41 PM12/8/16
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You're still a fluffer gimp, plonky. Does your girl friend still smell like a fish?

Tim

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Dec 8, 2016, 4:43:06 PM12/8/16
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Fat earl did.

>I can't tell if the attributions are correct anymore.
> If it's Tim, of course he's welcome - as an atheist regular, just like
> any other atheist regular. If it's Earl, he is NOT welcome, since he is
> a well known troll who ignores what the current FAQ says. Trolls are NOT
> welcome and are to be treated as they deserve.
> > >> >
> > >> >h7 also says that you're fat and stupid.

I wrote that.

> > >>
> > >> She went into the hospital and had 90 pounds of fat removed. I truly hope it makes her feel better.

Fat earl.

> > >
> > >You could lose 300 lbs and you'd still be fat.

Me.
> >
> > H7 lost 90.
> >
> That's right. I did. It took five years to do it. And my hospitalizations
> had nothing to do with it. Poor Earl is simply jealous. (Actually, I gained
> weight when I was in the hospital due to all the liquids they pumped into my veins. I had to take that off again every time.)

earl's just got weight loss envy

hypatiab7

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Dec 8, 2016, 4:43:20 PM12/8/16
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On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 5:08:04 PM UTC-5, Andrew wrote:
> "Kevrob" wrote in message news:a77dadba-70d8-4cdf...@googlegroups.com...
>
> > I'm not fat. I'm gravitationally enhanced.
>
> Euphemisms won't save you from
> the pathological consequences of
> your condition.

It's a shame that Mike Yost's religious gravity waves have destroyed your mind.
And his. And Earl's. And Johnboi's.

And, kevrob's 'gravitationally enhanced' is a very clever way of saying
overweight. At least he has a good sense of humor about it. Earl won't
even admit that he's a tub of lard. I was, too, 6 years ago. I had hit 237
pounds when I learned that I finally was diabetic. That was what convinced
me to lose the gravitational enhancement. After awhile I was off the insulin shots, then my metformin pills were cut in half. Even better, my pemphigus
was cured! Losing that damned weight probably saved my life. Thank you
medical science. Again. Fictional gods need not apply.


hypatiab7

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Dec 8, 2016, 4:45:38 PM12/8/16
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On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 9:07:24 PM UTC-5, Andrew wrote:
> "Kevrob" wrote in message news:9ba6b725-ba0e-4d96...@googlegroups.com...
> > Andrew wrote:
> >> "Kevrob" wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'm not fat. I'm gravitationally enhanced.
> >>
> >> Euphemisms won't save you from
> >> the pathological consequences of
> >> your condition.
> >
> > So, when you say "person of faith"





> > and I hear "gullible sucker,"
> > yo know what I mean?
>
> A Darwinist.

No such thing, creationist website parasite.

hypatiab7

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Dec 8, 2016, 5:02:57 PM12/8/16
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On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 4:06:53 PM UTC-5, We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:40:50 PM UTC-5, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones.
> >
> > The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are true.
> >
> > Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
>
>
> You will die.... See evolution couldn't evolve you no matter how many kind words you say about Darwin

It is incredible how ignorant poor Cody is about everything.
>
>
>
> > Nobody has proven or even found a shred of evidence for biblical creation.
>
>
>
> This is what Messiah was supposed to do and He did. He confirmed Moses and brought in new revelations.

Mythology. Your religion has imprisoned whatever mind you ever had. It has
turned you into a loon.
>
>
>
> > Nobody has found a shred of evidence for a god or a creator.
>
>
>
> JESUS IS THE GOD CREATOR, THIS IS THE REVELATION FROM THE BIBLE YOU BELIEVE TO HAVE READ.

The Bible is a collection of myths, outdated laws an rules and ancient
Egyptian love poems. There is no evidence that your god and your Jesus
ever existed. And, your screaming in capital letters proves nothing.
Neither does your making up obscene stories about me and others. But,
go right ahead and write them. They're probably the only thing that
makes you feel like a man. And, after all, you ARE a pity troll.
>
>
>
> > Nobody has found a shred of evidence that Jesus ever lived.
>
>
> The Messiah must be born into the world according to the Hebraic "Constitution" i.e the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an confirmed that He was born through the VIRGIN MARY.
> Jerusalem was sacked and Jews scattered among nations as a punishment for violating the COVENANT because rejecting the Messiah was for God a violation of the TREATY(Covenant). Jews lost the promised land for doing so.
> Now you cannot reject something that doesn't exist, can you?
>
>
>
> > Nobody has found any evidence of a Noah type flood.
>
>
>
> Why are you so immune to learning....

Why are you so deliberately ignorant? Were you home-schooled?
>
>
>
>
> > In essence, none of the things these videos claim to prove is ever correct.
>
>
> Like what?
>
>
>
>
> > They are all propaganda pieces to try and fool stupid people without much science background.
>
>
>
> Science cannot prove REVELATION OR DISPROVE IT. For something which happened in the past what we need is REVELATION OR HISTORY OR BOTH.
>
>
> >
> > There is also the problem of why a youtube video would be the place to hear about this stuff. The news is where you would here about any of this if it were true.
>
>
>
> What News????? Ummmmmmm.......
>
>
> > None of it is true. All of the people making these claims are liars or fools or both, mostly liars.
>
>
> Or you are liar or fool or both.
>
>
> >
> > Forewarned is forearmed.
>
>
>
> YOU ARE FOREWARNED THAT YOU WILL END UP IN HELL.

hypatiab7

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Dec 8, 2016, 5:04:34 PM12/8/16
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On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 4:06:53 PM UTC-5, We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews wrote:
> On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:40:50 PM UTC-5, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted by several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists and maybe one or two actual ones.
> >
> > The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations through links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which are true.
> >
> > Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
>
>
> You will die.... See evolution couldn't evolve you no matter how many kind words you say about Darwin
>
>
>
> > Nobody has proven or even found a shred of evidence for biblical creation.
>
>
>
> This is what Messiah was supposed to do and He did. He confirmed Moses and brought in new revelations.
>
>
>
> > Nobody has found a shred of evidence for a god or a creator.
>
>
>
> JESUS IS THE GOD CREATOR, THIS IS THE REVELATION FROM THE BIBLE YOU BELIEVE TO HAVE READ.
>
>
>
> > Nobody has found a shred of evidence that Jesus ever lived.
>
>
> The Messiah must be born into the world according to the Hebraic "Constitution" i.e the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an confirmed that He was born through the VIRGIN MARY.
> Jerusalem was sacked and Jews scattered among nations as a punishment for violating the COVENANT because rejecting the Messiah was for God a violation of the TREATY(Covenant). Jews lost the promised land for doing so.
> Now you cannot reject something that doesn't exist, can you?
>
>
>
> > Nobody has found any evidence of a Noah type flood.
>
>
>
> Why are you so immune to learning....
>
>
>
>
> > In essence, none of the things these videos claim to prove is ever correct.
>
>
> Like what?
>
>
>
>
> > They are all propaganda pieces to try and fool stupid people without much science background.
>
>
>
> Science cannot prove REVELATION OR DISPROVE IT. For something which happened in the past what we need is REVELATION OR HISTORY OR BOTH.
>
>
> >
> > There is also the problem of why a youtube video would be the place to hear about this stuff. The news is where you would here about any of this if it were true.
>
>
>
> What News????? Ummmmmmm.......
>
>
> > None of it is true. All of the people making these claims are liars or fools or both, mostly liars.
>
>
> Or you are liar or fool or both.
>
>
> >
> > Forewarned is forearmed.
>
>
>
> YOU ARE FOREWARNED THAT YOU WILL END UP IN HELL.


You have yet to provide evidence that your hell exists.


Melzzzzz

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Dec 8, 2016, 5:09:40 PM12/8/16
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 14:02:54 -0800 (PST)
hypatiab7 <hypa...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 4:06:53 PM UTC-5, We Will Always Hang
> >
> > JESUS IS THE GOD CREATOR, THIS IS THE REVELATION FROM THE BIBLE YOU
> > BELIEVE TO HAVE READ.
>
> The Bible is a collection of myths, outdated laws an rules and
> ancient Egyptian love poems. There is no evidence that your god and
> your Jesus ever existed. And, your screaming in capital letters
> proves nothing. Neither does your making up obscene stories about me
> and others. But, go right ahead and write them. They're probably the
> only thing that makes you feel like a man. And, after all, you ARE a
> pity troll.
> >
Man born of virgin, that is his own father and resurrected and flew in
the sky ...

--
press any key to continue or any other to quit

Saint Else Ware

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Dec 8, 2016, 5:29:28 PM12/8/16
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On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 1:39:42 PM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
> On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 3:40:40 PM UTC-5, Saint Else Ware wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 11:49:44 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
> > > "Saint Else Ware" <t2jud...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:0125a330-014a-4b92...@googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 10:07:19 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Where was I wrong?
> > > >
> > > > I know you lack comprehension, donkey brained gimp fluffer ...
> > >
> > > Your evasion is noted, kook.
> >
> > Get back in the box, fluffer gimp, until your mom learns to fuck kangaroos ...
>
> Just admit that you couldn't answer

Anyone can look and see how you stuck your foot in your mouth with your quick replies, retardo.

Tim

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Dec 8, 2016, 5:40:52 PM12/8/16
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Show me where I was wrong or just admit that you can't, gimp.

Saint Else Ware

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Dec 8, 2016, 5:54:31 PM12/8/16
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both you and your mother now need to fuck kangaroos ...

Jeanne Douglas

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Dec 8, 2016, 7:51:02 PM12/8/16
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In article <1a7e9307-1666-4e1f...@googlegroups.com>,
And we all know that when one of the theists brings up The Threat, he
knows he's lost the argument and is resorting to an idiotic desperate
tactic.

--

JD


I'm a "nasty woman" and I vote.

Jeanne Douglas

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Dec 8, 2016, 7:53:33 PM12/8/16
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In article <0926d3aa-5c9e-44fe...@googlegroups.com>,
Africa-Has-No-Boss-But-Jesus <africahas...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 5:48:19 PM UTC-5, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > In article <930eb4c2-1f49-4684...@googlegroups.com>,
> > We Will Always Hang FagZ And Castrate Jews <maca...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:40:50 PM UTC-5, Cloud Hobbit wrote:
> > > > Please be aware that although this is an atheist NG it is being haunted
> > > > by
> > > > several people pretending to be devout Christians and fundamentalists
> > > > and
> > > > maybe one or two actual ones.
> > > >
> > > > The point is that these people are constantly making proclamations
> > > > through
> > > > links to YouTube videos that claim all sorts of things none of which
> > > > are
> > > > true.
> > > >
> > > > Nobody has debunked Darwin's Theory of evolution.
> > >
> > >
> > > You will die.... See evolution couldn't evolve you no matter how many
> > > kind
> > > words you say about Darwin
> >
> >
> > What does death have to do with evolution?

<snippage of irrelevant non sequitur>


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