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Kevrob
Feb 6, 2017, 7:11:55 PM2/6/17
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People are looking for the FAQ: Here's on version.
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Kevin R
On Wednesday, October 16, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, mathew wrote:
> Archive-name: atheism/overview
> Alt-atheism-archive-name: overview
> Last-modified: Tue Sep 10 10:07:20 1996
> Version: 3.2
>
> Welcome to alt.atheism/alt.atheism.moderated!
>
> This is the FAQ for the Usenet newsgroup alt.atheism. All are
> welcome in the newsgroup, whether they're atheists or not.
>
> Many newsgroups of a 'controversial' nature have noticed that new
> readers often come up with the same questions, mis-statements or
> misconceptions and post them to the net. In addition, people often
> request information which has been posted time and time again.
>
> In order to try and cut down on this, most newsgroups have Frequently
> Asked Questions files, or FAQ files. They are posted regularly, and
> generally aimed especially at new readers of the newsgroup in
> question. However, even long-time readers should browse the FAQs now
> and again.
>
> The atheism-related newsgroups on the net have a shared resource known
> as The Atheism Web. You are strongly advised to read the atheism web
> before posting to any atheist newsgroup! You'll find it at this URL:
> <URL:http://freethought.tamu.edu/news/atheism/>
>
> These FAQ files are ASCII conversions of part of the information from
> The Atheism Web. The web version is much better, and includes much
> extra material.
>
> If you are new to Usenet, you may also find it helpful to read the
> newsgroup news.announce.newusers. The articles titled "A Primer on How
> to Work With the Usenet Community", "Answers to Frequently Asked
> Questions about Usenet" and "Hints on writing style for Usenet" are
> particularly relevant. Questions concerning how news works are best
> asked innews.newusers.questions.
>
> Credits, corrections and copyrights
>
> Please send any changes or corrections to mathew <me...@pobox.com>
>
> The plain ASCII text versions of the alt.atheism FAQ files are free;
> you may distribute them to anyone you wish. The hypertext (HTML)
> versions are not free (yet), so please ask before distributing
> copies or mirroring them.
>
> Please do not re-post copies of the ASCII documents to alt.atheism; it
> does nobody any good to have multiple versions of the same document
> floating around the network.
>
> People sometimes ask whether the FAQ documents are original, and if
> so, who wrote them. It's not an easy question to answer. Some parts I
> wrote myself; many others were contributed by the readers of
> alt.atheism and of other Usenet newsgroups. The articles are therefore
> a massive collaborative effort, of a sort which would not have been
> possible without electronic networking.
>
> I have written, rewritten and edited a great deal of material, but
> these FAQ files would not have been possible without the efforts of
> hundreds of people. For a list of contributors, see
> <URL:http://freethought.tamu.edu/news/atheism/credits.html>.
>
> Disclaimer
>
> The editor of these FAQ documents has attempted to verify the accuracy
> and correctness of the information contained in them, as far as is
> metaphysically possible. Mistakes can and do happen, and so far it
> seems no omnipotent beings have intervened to correct them. If you use
> the information in these FAQ documents, you do so at your own risk.
>
> However, the editor hereby guarantees that reading these documents
> will not cause your soul to perish in eternal damnation. Offer void
> where prohibited by natural law.
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> For the latest version of this information, see
> <http://freethought.tamu.edu/news/atheism/>
> --
> me...@pobox.com content available at <URL:http://www.pobox.com/%7Emeta/>
> Help prevent bias on the net; see <URL:http://www.pobox.com/%7Emeta/rs/ot/>
> "There's safety in numbers... Large prime numbers." -- John Gilmore
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Kevin R
On Wednesday, October 16, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, mathew wrote:
> Archive-name: atheism/overview
> Alt-atheism-archive-name: overview
> Last-modified: Tue Sep 10 10:07:20 1996
> Version: 3.2
>
> Welcome to alt.atheism/alt.atheism.moderated!
>
> This is the FAQ for the Usenet newsgroup alt.atheism. All are
> welcome in the newsgroup, whether they're atheists or not.
>
> Many newsgroups of a 'controversial' nature have noticed that new
> readers often come up with the same questions, mis-statements or
> misconceptions and post them to the net. In addition, people often
> request information which has been posted time and time again.
>
> In order to try and cut down on this, most newsgroups have Frequently
> Asked Questions files, or FAQ files. They are posted regularly, and
> generally aimed especially at new readers of the newsgroup in
> question. However, even long-time readers should browse the FAQs now
> and again.
>
> The atheism-related newsgroups on the net have a shared resource known
> as The Atheism Web. You are strongly advised to read the atheism web
> before posting to any atheist newsgroup! You'll find it at this URL:
> <URL:http://freethought.tamu.edu/news/atheism/>
>
> These FAQ files are ASCII conversions of part of the information from
> The Atheism Web. The web version is much better, and includes much
> extra material.
>
> If you are new to Usenet, you may also find it helpful to read the
> newsgroup news.announce.newusers. The articles titled "A Primer on How
> to Work With the Usenet Community", "Answers to Frequently Asked
> Questions about Usenet" and "Hints on writing style for Usenet" are
> particularly relevant. Questions concerning how news works are best
> asked innews.newusers.questions.
>
> Credits, corrections and copyrights
>
> Please send any changes or corrections to mathew <me...@pobox.com>
>
> The plain ASCII text versions of the alt.atheism FAQ files are free;
> you may distribute them to anyone you wish. The hypertext (HTML)
> versions are not free (yet), so please ask before distributing
> copies or mirroring them.
>
> Please do not re-post copies of the ASCII documents to alt.atheism; it
> does nobody any good to have multiple versions of the same document
> floating around the network.
>
> People sometimes ask whether the FAQ documents are original, and if
> so, who wrote them. It's not an easy question to answer. Some parts I
> wrote myself; many others were contributed by the readers of
> alt.atheism and of other Usenet newsgroups. The articles are therefore
> a massive collaborative effort, of a sort which would not have been
> possible without electronic networking.
>
> I have written, rewritten and edited a great deal of material, but
> these FAQ files would not have been possible without the efforts of
> hundreds of people. For a list of contributors, see
> <URL:http://freethought.tamu.edu/news/atheism/credits.html>.
>
> Disclaimer
>
> The editor of these FAQ documents has attempted to verify the accuracy
> and correctness of the information contained in them, as far as is
> metaphysically possible. Mistakes can and do happen, and so far it
> seems no omnipotent beings have intervened to correct them. If you use
> the information in these FAQ documents, you do so at your own risk.
>
> However, the editor hereby guarantees that reading these documents
> will not cause your soul to perish in eternal damnation. Offer void
> where prohibited by natural law.
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> For the latest version of this information, see
> <http://freethought.tamu.edu/news/atheism/>
> --
> me...@pobox.com content available at <URL:http://www.pobox.com/%7Emeta/>
> Help prevent bias on the net; see <URL:http://www.pobox.com/%7Emeta/rs/ot/>
> "There's safety in numbers... Large prime numbers." -- John Gilmore
hypatiab7
Feb 7, 2017, 2:40:28 PM2/7/17
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Kevrob
Mar 20, 2017, 9:54:40 AM3/20/17
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Here's the FAQ from an earlier post:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/alt-atheism-FAQ which is
http://tinyurl.com/alt-atheism-FAQ resolving to
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.atheism/lbGwK5XPCds
Message-ID: <1n0m6dvtg6vjb$.1mes5pe7...@40tude.net>
What is the purpose of alt.atheism?
Alt.atheism was created in 1990 as a place to discuss atheism and atheist
topics. All are welcome in the newsgroup, whether they're atheists or not.
The topics of the newsgroup include:
* Whether it is reasonable to pretend to be religious in order to avoid
upsetting your family
* Prayer in schools
* Discrimination against atheists
* Sunday trading laws
* The Satanic Child Abuse myth
* Whether you should be an overt atheist or 'stay in the closet'
* How religious societies prey (sic) on new college students
* How to get rid of unwanted proselytizers
* Whether religion is a danger to society and/or the individual
* Why people become atheists
Of course, inevitably alt.atheism tends to attract evangelical Christians
looking for someone to convert. Most readers of the newsgroup don't want to
be preached to, although a few seem to derive perverse pleasure from
tearing apart particularly ill-considered or uninformed postings.
The Cat-Herding Rules and Regulations of alt.atheism and Some Information
1. All are welcome in the newsgroup, whether they're atheists or not.
2. Proselytizing of ANY religion is NOT welcome! (Those guilty of this
bad nettiquette will be treated as they deserve!)
3. When responding to a long message, please try to remember to reprint
only the part you are responding to. Also, please don't respond to another
message without reprinting the part you are responding to. No one knows
WHAT you are responding to, if you don't do this. Also set your readers to
mark reprinted text as quoted and be sure to retain the attribution (that's
the > or >> in front of each line) to show who said what.
4. All subject threads with the letters aa in front of them are inte
nded for atheists only. If a theist should respond to one of these threads
and an atheist wants to respond to the theist in return, the atheist should
remove the aa to start a new thread. If the theist wants to remove the aa
first, that's okay, too.
5. The Party thread or aa Party Thread is for discussion of any topic
that is off-topic for the newsgroup. These can be funny or serious. This
thread originated with a discussion of a virtual party.
6. Cross-posting to more than five newsgroups at any one time is very
poor nettiquette and extremely rude.
7. Killfiles are our friends. Forte Agent, Gravity and other companies
offer this delightful way to block out the static and noise of trolls and
religious proselytizers who deliberately ignore this FAQ and plain
old-fashioned common courtesy. Many killfiles also come with a
spell-checker which is a great help to the more fumble-fingered or spelling
handicapped among us (I use my spell-checker....religiously?) Killfiles
generally cost a one-time fee of $29 with no charge at all for upgrades.
8. The alt.atheism atheist/agnostic number list is a list of
atheists/agnostic from anywhere on the Internet. As long as you are an
atheist/agnostic who is involved in any aspect of the Internet (newsgroups,
WWW, lists, chats, etc., you are welcome to join they may think. Stand up
and be counted! The current count is 1851! To join the list, send the
following information to Michelle Malkin:
1. The name and/or nickname you want on the list.
2. Are you an atheist, atheist agnostic, atheist freethinker or
Buddhist atheist?
3. Your year of birth.
4. The country you live in.
5. Your gender.
9. The atheist questions are a collection of questions one of which is
posted in alt.atheism on a weekly basis as a way to liven up the
discussion. New questions are always welcome and each will be posted to the
newsgroup in turn. Send any suggestions for new questions to Michelle
Malkin. The first 150 questions and up to ten answers to each can be found
at: http://www2.50megs.com/questioner/Questions.html.
10. A list of atheistic/freethought music is being kept by Nikitta Riber
#1759 and will be posted monthly or if requested. Suggestions and/or
additions to the list are welcome and must include titles, artists, why
each suggestion should be added to the list and a short quote. Please
e-mail all suggestions/additions directly to: nik...@mail.tele.dk.
11. This forum is not a conversation with a few at a party, but a free
for all among hundreds of people with a wide range of interests and
attitudes, so don't feel compelled to respond to every reply. Pick a few
representative or unique ones that look like they might lead to interesting
conversation and try to stay focused, at least until you get a sense of
some of the respondents, and they you. Keep your sense of humor and don't
take any of this too personally. You may be here to learn, to teach or
simply to enjoy yourself, so don't be shy.
Trolls will be reported.
Kevrob
Apr 2, 2017, 2:59:16 AM4/2/17
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On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 9:54:40 AM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
> > > Beware dead links.
FAQ is archived here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20161015200301/http://alt-atheism.org/atheism:faq
[quote]
The Cat-Herding Rules and Regulations of alt.atheism and Some Information
1 All are welcome in the newsgroup, whether they're atheists or not, as long as they are not trolls.
2 Proselytizing of ANY religion is NOT welcome! (Those guilty of this bad nettiquette will be treated as they deserve!)
3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be treated as what they are.
4 When responding to a long message, please try to remember to reprint only the part you are responding to. Also, please don't respond to another message without reprinting the part you are responding to. No one knows WHAT you are responding to, if you don't do this. Also set your readers to mark reprinted text as quoted and be sure to retain the attribution (that's the > or » in front of each line) to show who said what.
5 All subject threads with the letters aa in front of them are intended for atheists only. If a theist should respond to one of these threads and an atheist wants to respond to the theist in return, the atheist should remove the aa to start a new thread. If the theist wants to remove the aa first, that's okay, too.
6 The Party thread or aa Party Thread is for discussion of any topic that is off-topic for the newsgroup. These can be funny or serious. This thread originated with a discussion of a virtual party.
7 Cross-posting to more than five newsgroups at any one time is very poor nettiquette and extremely rude.
8 Killfiles are our friends. Forte Agent, Gravity and other companies offer this delightful way to block out the static and noise of trolls and religious proselytizers who deliberately ignore this FAQ and plain old-fashioned common courtesy. Many killfiles also come with a spell-checker which is a great help to the more fumble-fingered or spelling handicapped among us (I use my spell-checker….religiously?) Killfiles generally cost a one-time fee of $29 with no charge at all for upgrades.
9 This forum is not a conversation with a few at a party, but a free for all among hundreds of people with a wide range of interests and attitudes, so don't feel compelled to respond to every reply. Pick a few representative or unique ones that look like they might lead to interesting conversation and try to stay focused, at least until you get a sense of some of the respondents, and they you. Keep your sense of humor and don't take any of this too personally. You may be here to learn, to teach or simply to enjoy yourself, so don't be shy.
[/quote]
Kevin R
> > > Beware dead links.
FAQ is archived here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20161015200301/http://alt-atheism.org/atheism:faq
[quote]
The Cat-Herding Rules and Regulations of alt.atheism and Some Information
2 Proselytizing of ANY religion is NOT welcome! (Those guilty of this bad nettiquette will be treated as they deserve!)
3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be treated as what they are.
4 When responding to a long message, please try to remember to reprint only the part you are responding to. Also, please don't respond to another message without reprinting the part you are responding to. No one knows WHAT you are responding to, if you don't do this. Also set your readers to mark reprinted text as quoted and be sure to retain the attribution (that's the > or » in front of each line) to show who said what.
5 All subject threads with the letters aa in front of them are intended for atheists only. If a theist should respond to one of these threads and an atheist wants to respond to the theist in return, the atheist should remove the aa to start a new thread. If the theist wants to remove the aa first, that's okay, too.
6 The Party thread or aa Party Thread is for discussion of any topic that is off-topic for the newsgroup. These can be funny or serious. This thread originated with a discussion of a virtual party.
7 Cross-posting to more than five newsgroups at any one time is very poor nettiquette and extremely rude.
8 Killfiles are our friends. Forte Agent, Gravity and other companies offer this delightful way to block out the static and noise of trolls and religious proselytizers who deliberately ignore this FAQ and plain old-fashioned common courtesy. Many killfiles also come with a spell-checker which is a great help to the more fumble-fingered or spelling handicapped among us (I use my spell-checker….religiously?) Killfiles generally cost a one-time fee of $29 with no charge at all for upgrades.
9 This forum is not a conversation with a few at a party, but a free for all among hundreds of people with a wide range of interests and attitudes, so don't feel compelled to respond to every reply. Pick a few representative or unique ones that look like they might lead to interesting conversation and try to stay focused, at least until you get a sense of some of the respondents, and they you. Keep your sense of humor and don't take any of this too personally. You may be here to learn, to teach or simply to enjoy yourself, so don't be shy.
[/quote]
Kevin R
Astero...@yahoo.com
Apr 2, 2017, 3:41:49 AM4/2/17
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Kadaitcha Man
Apr 2, 2017, 4:09:11 AM4/2/17
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Kevrob, thou, butcher's cur, art venom mouthed. Ye balloon-headed
inbreed, ye reproached:
> 3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest
> to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested
> in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be
> treated as what they are
Real meaning: All non-atheists are trolls.
--
Before you fucking well complain about the fucking swearing in my
fucking posts, read this fucking article, you fucking dipshit whiner:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170117105107.htm
inbreed, ye reproached:
> 3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest
> to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested
> in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be
> treated as what they are
--
Before you fucking well complain about the fucking swearing in my
fucking posts, read this fucking article, you fucking dipshit whiner:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170117105107.htm
Siri Cruise
Apr 2, 2017, 7:55:25 AM4/2/17
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In article <AC85AF4A...@Osteomorpha.Bovistum.Morganii>,
literalist protestant creationists
and child raping catholic witch burning.
--
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Free the Amos Yee one.
Yeah, too bad about your so-called life. Ha-ha.
Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kevrob, thou, butcher's cur, art venom mouthed. Ye balloon-headed
> inbreed, ye reproached:
>
> > 3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest
> > to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested
> > in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be
> > treated as what they are
>
> Real meaning: All non-atheists are trolls.
Where non-atheists = superposition of
> Kevrob, thou, butcher's cur, art venom mouthed. Ye balloon-headed
> inbreed, ye reproached:
>
> > 3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest
> > to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested
> > in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be
> > treated as what they are
>
> Real meaning: All non-atheists are trolls.
literalist protestant creationists
and child raping catholic witch burning.
--
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
Free the Amos Yee one.
Yeah, too bad about your so-called life. Ha-ha.
hypatiab7
Apr 2, 2017, 3:55:52 PM4/2/17
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On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 9:54:40 AM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
some don't. I don't know what happened to Scott who was running it and paying
for it. I know he was having medical problems and may not have paid the fee for
the website. I hope he's okay. He was only here for a short time, but he did a lot. Where was it and how did you find it? I may switch it back to HTML.
hypatiab7
Apr 2, 2017, 3:59:49 PM4/2/17
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On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:09:11 AM UTC-4, Kadaitcha Man wrote:
> Kevrob, thou, butcher's cur, art venom mouthed. Ye balloon-headed
> inbreed, ye reproached:
>
> > 3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest
> > to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested
> > in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be
> > treated as what they are
>
> Real meaning: All non-atheists are trolls.
Sour grapies.
> Kevrob, thou, butcher's cur, art venom mouthed. Ye balloon-headed
> inbreed, ye reproached:
>
> > 3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest
> > to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested
> > in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be
> > treated as what they are
>
> Real meaning: All non-atheists are trolls.
Christopher A. Lee
Apr 2, 2017, 4:12:42 PM4/2/17
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On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 12:59:44 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
<hypa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:09:11 AM UTC-4, Kadaitcha Man wrote:
>> Kevrob, thou, butcher's cur, art venom mouthed. Ye balloon-headed
>> inbreed, ye reproached:
>>
>> > 3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest
>> > to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested
>> > in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be
>> > treated as what they are
>>
>> Real meaning: All non-atheists are trolls.
>
>Sour grapies.
Most of the ones who come here _are_ trolls. They're not interested in
<hypa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:09:11 AM UTC-4, Kadaitcha Man wrote:
>> Kevrob, thou, butcher's cur, art venom mouthed. Ye balloon-headed
>> inbreed, ye reproached:
>>
>> > 3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest
>> > to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested
>> > in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be
>> > treated as what they are
>>
>> Real meaning: All non-atheists are trolls.
>
>Sour grapies.
discussing atheist issues from any other perspective that their
religious beliefs are fact even when they are directly refuted by
objective reality.
>> Before you fucking well complain about the fucking swearing in my
>> fucking posts, read this fucking article, you fucking dipshit whiner:
>>
>> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170117105107.htm
she is.
%
Apr 2, 2017, 4:28:53 PM4/2/17
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and anyone new here should ignore it for the troll it is
%
Apr 2, 2017, 4:30:06 PM4/2/17
to
then i'll get to explain people like this again
hypatiab7
Apr 2, 2017, 4:53:36 PM4/2/17
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newsgroup or other kind of group or LoCs for the purpose of being annoying,
insulting, attacking, stalking or trying to start flamewars between different
groups. Trolls are well-known for invading newsgroups looking for people to
convert to their peculiar religion. Most trolls are mentally ill in one way or another. Many trolls are ill educated and deliberately ignorant, especially
the fanatically religious ones. Others are narcissistic and ill-tempered.
Many trolls also change their nyms (pseudonyms) quite often, though their writing styles are very recognizable. Other trolls forge messages under other peoples' names or nyms. A troll thread is a thread either started by trolls or taken over by trolls. In both cases, the threads end up with two or more trolls insulting each other ending up with all the trolls looking like total idiots.
I'm sure that others could give a shorter definition, but I wanted to cover
as much of current day trolldom as possible.
%
Apr 2, 2017, 5:00:02 PM4/2/17
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Kadaitcha Man
Apr 2, 2017, 5:44:56 PM4/2/17
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hypatiab7, damn thee, shameless grease stain. Thou art a shrill-gorged
cullion, a blackguardly butcher's cur, a broken-down winter cricket
thou, a loathed common gamester, ye nattered:
> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:09:11 AM UTC-4, Kadaitcha Man wrote:
>> Kevrob, thou, butcher's cur, art venom mouthed. Ye balloon-headed
>> inbreed, ye reproached:
>>
>>> 3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest
>>> to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested
>>> in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be
>>> treated as what they are
>>
>> Real meaning: All non-atheists are trolls.
>
> Sour grapies.
Not at all. Some of us are actually interested in genuine discussion. I
do what I do to quickly weed out the fuckwits. In my latest incarnation
I have determined that the only person with enough nous to discuss
anything at all is Kevrob.
cullion, a blackguardly butcher's cur, a broken-down winter cricket
thou, a loathed common gamester, ye nattered:
> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:09:11 AM UTC-4, Kadaitcha Man wrote:
>> Kevrob, thou, butcher's cur, art venom mouthed. Ye balloon-headed
>> inbreed, ye reproached:
>>
>>> 3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest
>>> to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested
>>> in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be
>>> treated as what they are
>>
>> Real meaning: All non-atheists are trolls.
>
> Sour grapies.
do what I do to quickly weed out the fuckwits. In my latest incarnation
I have determined that the only person with enough nous to discuss
anything at all is Kevrob.
Wictor Ontiegelijke Melkmuil
Apr 2, 2017, 5:56:17 PM4/2/17
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Christopher A. Lee <c....@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> are fact even when they are directly refuted by
> objective reality.
There's more than enough evidence to refute objective reality; more than
> are fact even when they are directly refuted by
> objective reality.
100 years of contemporary science, which you lot have to toss out the
window in order to maintain your religious beliefs.
--
I don't even think about not having a leg; Natalie Du Toit, South
African Olympic distance swimmer, and the first amputee to qualify for
the Olympics, 21Aug2008
Kevrob
Apr 2, 2017, 6:05:09 PM4/2/17
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> Since a troll is a defender of a system (case in point, the trolls that defend OZ) only atheists can be trolls in alt. atheism. So when you say someone is trolling you are actually dissing yourselves. Not to mention the fact that you troll a lot.
A troll is "one who trolls," as in the fisherman trolling for
his catch. Derivation, here:
From "The Jargon File" -
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/troll.html
[quote]
Troll
1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a
posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames;
or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase “trolling for newbies” which
in turn comes from mainstream “trolling”, a style of fishing in which one
trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed
troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves
look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the
more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you
don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it. See also YHBT.
2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly
posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup,
discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone
or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have
no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to
utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit
no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower
form of life on the net, as in, “Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll.”
Compare kook.
[/quote]
The theists posting flames here are the trolls.
Also, I don't believe Baum used trolls in the Oz books. Maybe
they crop up in the later works by other hands.
Now, Tolkien had trolls in his books.
Kevin R
Kevrob
Apr 2, 2017, 6:51:46 PM4/2/17
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to find the last active FAQ web page for alt-atheism.org.
http://web.archive.org/web/20160314200548/http://alt-atheism.org/atheism:faq
Kevin R
Don Martin
Apr 2, 2017, 7:09:23 PM4/2/17
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On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com>
wrote:
And Trump has dominated the national and international news for months
by trolling with specious arguments, flames or personal attacks. It
works!
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
wrote:
by trolling with specious arguments, flames or personal attacks. It
works!
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
Christopher A. Lee
Apr 2, 2017, 7:22:13 PM4/2/17
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On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 21:56:10 GMT, Wictor Ontiegelijke Melkmuil
<loud.thre...@linux.skinny-tamales> wrote:
>Christopher A. Lee <c....@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
>> are fact even when they are directly refuted by
>> objective reality.
>
>There's more than enough evidence to refute objective reality; more than
>100 years of contemporary science, which you lot have to toss out the
>window in order to maintain your religious beliefs.
What a fucking moron.
<loud.thre...@linux.skinny-tamales> wrote:
>Christopher A. Lee <c....@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
>> are fact even when they are directly refuted by
>> objective reality.
>
>There's more than enough evidence to refute objective reality; more than
>100 years of contemporary science, which you lot have to toss out the
>window in order to maintain your religious beliefs.
Zenobio Andreoulakis
Apr 2, 2017, 7:26:38 PM4/2/17
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Christopher A. Lee <c....@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 21:56:10 GMT, Wictor Ontiegelijke Melkmuil
> <loud.thre...@linux.skinny-tamales> wrote:
>
>> Christopher A. Lee <c....@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>>
>>> are fact even when they are directly refuted by
>>> objective reality.
>>
>> There's more than enough evidence to refute objective reality; more than
>> 100 years of contemporary science, which you lot have to toss out the
>> window in order to maintain your religious beliefs.
>
> What a fucking moron.
Would you like to debate it?
> On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 21:56:10 GMT, Wictor Ontiegelijke Melkmuil
> <loud.thre...@linux.skinny-tamales> wrote:
>
>> Christopher A. Lee <c....@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>>
>>> are fact even when they are directly refuted by
>>> objective reality.
>>
>> There's more than enough evidence to refute objective reality; more than
>> 100 years of contemporary science, which you lot have to toss out the
>> window in order to maintain your religious beliefs.
>
> What a fucking moron.
--
Life is a series of collisions with the future; it is not the sum of
what we have been, but what we yearn to be; Jose Ortega y Gasset
hypatiab7
Apr 2, 2017, 8:22:22 PM4/2/17
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So, his trolls have nothing to do with computers. Of course, this could be
a Johnboi attempt at humor. Could he really be that ignorant?
raven1
Apr 2, 2017, 8:28:01 PM4/2/17
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>On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 3:41:49 AM UTC-4, Astero...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Since a troll is a defender of a system (case in point, the trolls that defend OZ) only atheists can be trolls in alt. atheism. So when you say someone is trolling you are actually dissing yourselves. Not to mention the fact that you troll a lot.
>
>A troll is "one who trolls," as in the fisherman trolling for
>his catch. Derivation, here:
>
>From "The Jargon File" -
Just wanted to note that you're explaining what a troll is to a
>
>> Since a troll is a defender of a system (case in point, the trolls that defend OZ) only atheists can be trolls in alt. atheism. So when you say someone is trolling you are actually dissing yourselves. Not to mention the fact that you troll a lot.
>
>A troll is "one who trolls," as in the fisherman trolling for
>his catch. Derivation, here:
>
>From "The Jargon File" -
genuine kook and crank of truly epic proportions. "Asteroid Seven" is
also known as John McCoy, a Young Earth Creationist and believer in
Noah's Ark, who has been spouting his nonsense here and on
talk.origins since the early 1990s. He's also known as "McNameless",
"McIdiot", "McWelcher" (there's a hilarious talk.origins story
attached to that particular epithet that I'll be happy to share), et
al. He's perfectly well aware of what a troll is, he's just seeking
attention.
Kevrob
Apr 2, 2017, 8:55:33 PM4/2/17
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On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 8:22:22 PM UTC-4, hypatiab7 wrote:
> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 6:05:09 PM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 3:41:49 AM UTC-4, Astero...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > Since a troll is a defender of a system (case in point, the trolls that defend OZ) only atheists can be trolls in alt. atheism. So when you say someone is trolling you are actually dissing yourselves. Not to mention the fact that you troll a lot.
> >
> > A troll is "one who trolls," as in the fisherman trolling for
> > his catch. Derivation, here:
> >
> > From "The Jargon File" -
> >
> > http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/troll.html
> >
> > [quote]
> >
> > Troll
> >
> > 1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a
> > posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames;
......
> On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 6:05:09 PM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 3:41:49 AM UTC-4, Astero...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > Since a troll is a defender of a system (case in point, the trolls that defend OZ) only atheists can be trolls in alt. atheism. So when you say someone is trolling you are actually dissing yourselves. Not to mention the fact that you troll a lot.
> >
> > A troll is "one who trolls," as in the fisherman trolling for
> > his catch. Derivation, here:
> >
> > From "The Jargon File" -
> >
> > http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/troll.html
> >
> > [quote]
> >
> > Troll
> >
> > 1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a
> > posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames;
> > 2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1;
> > [/quote]
> >
> > The theists posting flames here are the trolls.
> >
> > Also, I don't believe Baum used trolls in the Oz books. Maybe
> > they crop up in the later works by other hands.
> >
> > Now, Tolkien had trolls in his books.
> >
> > Kevin R
>
> Didn't Tolkien shuffle off this mortal coil before there was an Internet.
to do with computers. Both the US ARPANET and the UK's NPL launched
in 1969. So it wouldn't be _temporally_ impossible, just in every
other conceivable way. :)
> So, his trolls have nothing to do with computers. Of course, this could be
> a Johnboi attempt at humor. Could he really be that ignorant?
Kevin R
Aetherius IV
Apr 2, 2017, 9:32:05 PM4/2/17
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Kadaitcha Man
Apr 2, 2017, 10:14:58 PM4/2/17
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Aetherius IV, thou bawd, thou broker, thou all changing word. Ye
blackguardly foolish cur, ye piped:
Why? Did cunt face object?
blackguardly foolish cur, ye piped:
Archbishop Don Kool - Making America Great Again!
Apr 2, 2017, 11:35:00 PM4/2/17
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--
Try God!
Don
See you in church.
Shoot straight, not fast.
Siri Cruise
Apr 3, 2017, 4:10:24 AM4/3/17
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In article <FF35F73E...@Adenostoma.Alneum.Rubricaulis>,
Besides the small hands, Donny's mouth doesn't look a normal human mouth. I've
likenned it to a wound, but now you've made think of another explanation. He has
a goatse mouth.
Besides the small hands, Donny's mouth doesn't look a normal human mouth. I've
likenned it to a wound, but now you've made think of another explanation. He has
a goatse mouth.
Kadaitcha Man
Apr 3, 2017, 4:16:50 AM4/3/17
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Siri Cruise, ye detestable bones. Thou art a paunchy caterpillar, a
light-fingered moral fool, a pragging figure pedantical, a dankish
monsieur mock-water, ye repined:
> In article <FF35F73E...@Adenostoma.Alneum.Rubricaulis>,
> Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why? Did cunt face object?
>
> Besides the small hands, Donny's mouth doesn't look a normal human mouth. I've
> likenned it to a wound, but now you've made think of another explanation. He has
> a goatse mouth.
urgh
light-fingered moral fool, a pragging figure pedantical, a dankish
monsieur mock-water, ye repined:
> In article <FF35F73E...@Adenostoma.Alneum.Rubricaulis>,
> Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why? Did cunt face object?
>
> Besides the small hands, Donny's mouth doesn't look a normal human mouth. I've
> likenned it to a wound, but now you've made think of another explanation. He has
> a goatse mouth.
Kevrob
Apr 3, 2017, 5:38:29 AM4/3/17
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Kevin R
hypatiab7
Apr 3, 2017, 1:28:08 PM4/3/17
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control. He knows he's never going to be anything but an annoyance
troll in alt.atheism. If he ever admits this to himself, he'll have
another breakdown - maybe worse than the first. It's a pity. He was
a nice kid when he was 16. Since he turned 18, he's been a mess.
Religious adulthood hasn't been good for him. He's now in his 30s.
Yes, he's Johnboi, John McCoy, nameless, JM, J McCoy and Asteroid7.
hypatiab7
Apr 3, 2017, 1:32:19 PM4/3/17
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of Noah's Ark.
Martinelli
Apr 3, 2017, 11:54:14 PM4/3/17
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On 02 Apr 2017, Archbishop Don Kool - Making America Great Again!
<old...@comcast.net> posted some news:obsfms$i9c$1...@dont-email.me:
Given what she and Jeanne were up to recently, we could probably call her
"Oreo" too.
<old...@comcast.net> posted some news:obsfms$i9c$1...@dont-email.me:
"Oreo" too.
Archbishop Don Kool - Making America Great Again!
Apr 4, 2017, 10:51:01 AM4/4/17
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Kevrob
Apr 4, 2017, 11:14:31 AM4/4/17
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On Tuesday, April 4, 2017 at 10:51:01 AM UTC-4, Archbishop Don Kool - Making America Great Again! wrote:
> On 4/3/2017 11:54 PM, Martinelli wrote:
> > On 02 Apr 2017, Archbishop Don Kool - Making America Great Again!
> > <old...@comcast.net> posted some news:obsfms$i9c$1...@dont-email.me:
> >
> >> On 4/2/2017 9:31 PM, Aetherius IV wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:53:33 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
> >>> <hypa...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Then stop trolling.............
> On 4/3/2017 11:54 PM, Martinelli wrote:
> > On 02 Apr 2017, Archbishop Don Kool - Making America Great Again!
> > <old...@comcast.net> posted some news:obsfms$i9c$1...@dont-email.me:
> >
> >> On 4/2/2017 9:31 PM, Aetherius IV wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 13:53:33 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
> >>> <hypa...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >> We call her Meth Head or Shit for Brains.
> >
> > Given what she and Jeanne were up to recently, we could probably call her
> > "Oreo" too.
> >
> Most of us have a life. Fat Jeanne and hypatiab7 have each other.
You have a life? The self-described "Archbishop" who thinks it
> >> We call her Meth Head or Shit for Brains.
> >
> > Given what she and Jeanne were up to recently, we could probably call her
> > "Oreo" too.
> >
> Most of us have a life. Fat Jeanne and hypatiab7 have each other.
is "kool" for a so-called clergyman to insult people, and troll
on Usenet? It is to laugh.
People were nominating Donald "Don Kool" McDonald for Usenet
Kook of the Month over 20 years ago - back when he was a wasn't
even a "Rev" let alone an "Archbishop!"
Twenty-plus years of this nonsense!
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.usenet.kooks/ch-NnSoYL10/v5Ffb66khCcJ
Kevin R
Cloud Hobbit
Apr 4, 2017, 7:02:57 PM4/4/17
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Joe Bruno
Apr 5, 2017, 4:12:46 AM4/5/17
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On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 1:12:42 PM UTC-7, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> discussing atheist issues from any other perspective that their
> religious beliefs are fact even when they are directly refuted by
> objective reality.
Show us those refutations.
>
> On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 12:59:44 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
> <hypa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:09:11 AM UTC-4, Kadaitcha Man wrote:
> >> Kevrob, thou, butcher's cur, art venom mouthed. Ye balloon-headed
> >> inbreed, ye reproached:
> >>
> >> > 3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest
> >> > to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested
> >> > in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be
> >> > treated as what they are
> >>
> >> Real meaning: All non-atheists are trolls.
> >
> >Sour grapies.
>
> Most of the ones who come here _are_ trolls. They're not interested in
> <hypa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 4:09:11 AM UTC-4, Kadaitcha Man wrote:
> >> Kevrob, thou, butcher's cur, art venom mouthed. Ye balloon-headed
> >> inbreed, ye reproached:
> >>
> >> > 3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest
> >> > to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested
> >> > in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be
> >> > treated as what they are
> >>
> >> Real meaning: All non-atheists are trolls.
> >
> >Sour grapies.
>
> discussing atheist issues from any other perspective that their
> religious beliefs are fact even when they are directly refuted by
> objective reality.
Show us those refutations.
>
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