God Proof of Himself.
Frankie Lee
1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
exists
ME: It was an accepted knowledge and practice, that witnesses can be
formed as part of objective evidence, and whether or not Jurors
believe on it, that is a separate matter.
Information from the Bible reveals that Moses met God, and he
testifies for our world that God is the creator of the universe. This
God is dealing with Israel for a very long time, and credible witness
wrote down histories, so that we can be informed.
The time periods, places and people whom God was said to have
interacted with human were all written down. It was detailed.
2. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours is
the only deity there is .
Me:I told my daughter that her grandfather was a bottled drinks
employee,and he died young.Moses told me that God is the only Creator
in his accounts. These are objective evidences,but then objective
evidences can be discounted or accepted BY ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE, and
that doesn’t changed the fact that they were OBJECTIVE EVIDENCES.
Or perhaps you have in mind, a different type of Objective evidence.
You must elaborate your fantasy Objective Evidence definition,
according to your own mindset
****3. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
created the universe and life on Earth
****4. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
is
not a figment of your imagination
****Or keep running, you pathetic coward; it's what you do best,
after
all.
Budikka
Me:Since you charge me as one who runs, and here I demonstrate I did
not, so your comments are not valid, or noteworthy.
God is not a figment of imagination is because He is alive and real.
As I chose to obey Him and His words, He answers my prayers, performs
miracles for me and blesses me every day. God presented His case so
well, and so powerful, so bowed down and submit to His reasons and
rationales and commandments.
God told me that Peace can be found in Him, and when I tasted His
words, peace came, and joys too. Love came too. Help from Him came
too.There is an out-of-the-world experience of comfort and assurance
that I could never have known, except it is from God.
People may say my experience could be just some Psychologies,but since
I am the one who feel it,who could better analyse better than myself
who is actually going through the experience.
People may say I am hallucinating, but who knows better than myself?
It is a common practice that we accept people’s testimonies and words
and formed that as part of our life.Some may be lies and nonsense, but
some are truthful and real.
I testify to you that my God is true, and He is coming to judge the
world soon. The questions and problems you have is, do you believe in
me and my words.
One wise man declare’If God want to let us know Him,he should come
down and show us”.God came down,and God showed us,talk to man
directly,live among man,give His teachings and instructions.He told
His disciples to spread His words and do His works.
His teachings and deeds are to be compiled,and they did.”
The Biblical accounts are always very objective, and it relates the
stories accordingly. People can examine, study, accept or refused to
believe. God will back up his words, and promise to do what He said He
will do, so as to confirm His credibility and truthfulness. Since
Jesus is alive, He will need to show to those who hearken His words
that He is indeed alive. In fact, He had. He will do it again, and
again, and again.
When I was young, I was wondering why such great and marvellous things
not shown to the entire world, of the things I had seen and heard, and
those events were most convincing and dramatic.
Later on, I discover that obnoxious people will pervert what is good
and turn it upside down by their craftiness and deceits. Thus what is
great proof of God, become erratic before our world? I remember then
there are deceivers and there are those who don’t deserve to
experience such great things from the Lord.
General William booth was a lazy Christian, half- past- six one. Jesus
called him up to Heaven. Jesus displayed man and women who did great
deeds for Him, and many were martyred for Him, and great admiration of
looks Jesus cast upon them all.
He came back to this earth, founded the Salvation Army, and this
witness warmed the hearts of all human beings, and great respect and
honour were given to him and Salvation Army ever since.
Again, one can disrespect his Faith or works. How then can those
parents who abandoned their kids in the alleys, hoping they would die,
but was help by Salvation Army not hated Salvation Army?
How can the Red Cross be loved by people who wanted to cause havoc
and disasters? Only the rationale people would love the founder Jesus
Christ, and the Red Cross is so Red, signifying His Blood, His love
for the world, up till this day, none could erase the Redness of the
Red Cross.
Jesus shows love for all human beings, died on the cross to save
sinners. This is love, and according to God’s standard and critical
thinking, it is enough proof of Himself and His relations with the
world.
Can our world make insane demands, and erratic rationale to compel Him
to suit our fantasies and our devious definition as to what is
evidence?
Alex
the most High.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said,
Ye are gods?
1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that
the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
Davej
> [...]
> Me: I told my daughter that her grandfather was a bottled drinks
> Creator in his accounts.
Except that Moses is just a fictional character, not a real witness.
The story is just a fraud in a long line of frauds. Muhammad saw that
the story needed more rewriting. Joseph Smith saw that the story
needed more rewriting. L. Ron Hubbard wrote a whole different story.
Olrik
<insane rant snipped>
You've got nothing, creep. Better men tried and failed to "prove" "god".
They all failed.
Syd M.
> Here's what you're shrinking from like a limp Peter at the Passion:
>
> 1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
> exists
>
> ME: It was an accepted knowledge and practice, that witnesses can be
> formed as part of objective evidence, and whether or not Jurors
> believe on it, that is a separate matter.
>
> Information from the Bible
The bible is not proof, Franky.
No matter how many times you attempt it.
PDW
Wusong
(trash snipped)
Frankie Lee, you are a LIAR and a FRAUD!
These are irrefutable proofs that you are a liar, a fraud, a lunatic,
and that you have the mind of a ten-year-old child (oh yes, you are
also a bigot):
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/8fdc53c778da7b40?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/1a944cf708586e8c?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/f8878e7666137efb?hl=en
Everyone knows this, but you are simply too dumb to be aware of it,
because you can't see further than your nose at what is going on in
the world. Your are blinded by ignorance and superstition - you are
nothing but a false preacher.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
You can't pray or wangle your way out of this one.
Now then, which part of that could you not understand?
Frankie Lee
>
> - Show quoted text **Yes,you are spot on,but we are known as god,small"g:.
Frankie Lee
**So you say Muhammed who did re-writing is more credible than Moses?
Joseph Smith who showed those ficticious is more crdible?L.Ron is more
credible,who was discredited long ago!!
Muhammed has never been credible,and you know it.He claimed to be
possessed by demons,and this fact were well accepted by all Muslims.So
you would rather believed a demon possessed man rather than Moses?
The way you preferred renowned nuts to be your supporting witness,are
you not very dumb?In your logics,you try to make your comments
unacceptable,and mine superior?How else to explain you quote on
Nutty's words?
Frankie Lee
**Better man tried and prove God is real.I quote you.George Washington
was the man.Isaac Newton was the man.I have shown you both.Are their
testimonies not worth any grain of salt,but your assertions were?
Wusong
Wusong
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Frankie Lee
> On 4月3日, 下午10时41分, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> (trash snipped)
>
> Frankie Lee, you are a LIAR and a FRAUD!
>
> These are irrefutable proofs that you are a liar, a fraud, a lunatic,
> and that you have the mind of a ten-year-old child (oh yes, you are
> also a bigot):
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/1a944cf708586e8c...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/f8878e7666137efb...
>
> Everyone knows this, but you are simply too dumb to be aware of it,
> because you can't see further than your nose at what is going on in
> the world. Your are blinded by ignorance and superstition - you are
> nothing but a false preacher.
>
> Quod erat demonstrandum.
>
> You can't pray or wangle your way out of this one.
>
> Now then, which part of that could you not understand?
***Can you explain to all readers why you make reply,which is
irrelevent here?Is it not true you hope to discredit my messages,and
by using this underhand methods,hoping underhand-methods' nuts like
you would side along with you?
What can you possibly achieve by being erractic and display slanderous
habit?While you thought those silly posts will garner support,but it
will boomerang.People go for logics and reasons--not any-o-how make
slanders.
Futiles!
Frankie Lee
> On 4ÔÂ3ÈÕ, ÏÂÎç10ʱ41·Ö, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> (trash snipped)
>
> Frankie Lee, you are a LIAR and a FRAUD!
>
> These are irrefutable proofs that you are a liar, a fraud, a lunatic,
> and that you have the mind of a ten-year-old child (oh yes, you are
> also a bigot):
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/8fdc53c778da7b40...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/1a944cf708586e8c...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/f8878e7666137efb...
>
> Everyone knows this, but you are simply too dumb to be aware of it,
> because you can't see further than your nose at what is going on in
> the world. Your are blinded by ignorance and superstition - you are
> nothing but a false preacher.
>
> Quod erat demonstrandum.
>
> You can't pray or wangle your way out of this one.
>
> Now then, which part of that could you not understand?
*** Kan you ekthpwain to aww weadewth why you make wepwy,whitth ith
iwwewefent hewe?Ith it not twue you hope to dithkwedit my
methageth,and by uthing thith undewhand methodth,hoping
undewhand-methodth' nutth wike you wouwd thide awong with you?
What kan you pothibwy atthiefe by being ewwaktik and dithpway
thwandewouth habit?Whiwe you thought thothe thiwwy poftth wiww gawnew
thuppowt,but it wiww boomewang.Peopwe go fow wogith and weathonth--not
any-o-how make thwandewth.
Futiweth!
Frankie Lee
>
> - Show quoted text -
**Imposter.The above was not written by me.
Frankie Lee
news:c26f8b5a-f518-42c7...@j11g2000prn.googlegroups.com:
> @yahoo.comwrote:
Eat tiny portions and NEVER go back for seconds.
> **Imposter.The above was not written by me.
You don't have any diseases, do you?
Wusong
> ***Can you explain to all readers why you make reply,which is
> irrelevent here?Is it not true you hope to discredit my messages,and
> by using this underhand methods,hoping underhand-methods' nuts like
> you would side along with you?
>
> What can you possibly achieve by being erractic and display slanderous
> habit?While you thought those silly posts will garner support,but it
> will boomerang.People go for logics and reasons--not any-o-how make
> slanders.
>
> Futiles!
Your lies and fraudulent past will FOREVER haunt you till the day you
enter Hell.
DP
You really have a serious mental illness, Krankie Lee.
Want to end your mental illness?
It doesn't take much to realize that mental illness itself costs
society an unimaginable amount of money. Let us look at the USA
statistic, it is said that "Among all Americans, 36.2 million people
paid for mental health services totaling $57.5 billion in 2006
<mailbox:///P%7C/ThunderbirdPortable/Data/profile/Mail/Local%20Folders/
Templates?number=30801708&part=1.2&filename=mentalcost2006usa.html>.
" For Canada it is said that "On any given day, 500,000 Canadians are
absent from work due to a form of mental illness – half a million
people
– at a total cost to the Canadian economy of more than $50 billion a
year in lost productivity
<mailbox:///P%7C/ThunderbirdPortable/Data/profile/Mail/Local%20Folders/
Templates?number=30801708&part=1.3&filename=mentalcostcanada.html>."
Based on USA and Canada, mental illness costs $107.5 billion a YEAR
but
we know that there are other countries who also suffer from similar
financial burden due to the mental illness scam . Based on the fact
that
there are 195 countries
<http://geography.about.com/cs/countries/a/numbercountries.htm> in
the
world,, I will put in is range of trillions annually just to provide
a
figure to the interested audience.
It doesn't take much to realize that mental illness costs
people unnecessary suffering. I have offered to challenge the psych
industry
<mailbox:///P%7C/ThunderbirdPortable/Data/profile/Mail/Local%20Folders/
Templates?number=30801708&part=1.4&filename=index2.html>
and given proof
<mailbox:///P%7C/ThunderbirdPortable/Data/profile/Mail/Local%20Folders/
Templates?number=30801708&part=1.5&filename=selfprot.html>why
mental illness is a scam. As I have stated before, mental illness is
a
created illness. I find it unacceptable to allow people to be
financially burden and having to deal with unnecessary suffering.
Therefore, I will resort to using the public to help me end mental
illness. Why on earth would I take the trouble to do such a thing? I
am
tired of the people in charge of society who would sit and do nothing
while people are made mentally ill. This is why I do it. There are
ways
in which the public can help me amass the resource I need to end
mental
illness. In comparison to what mental illness costs society, the
amount
I ask is insignificant. Given what mental illness costs annually
worldwide, the amount I ask for is meaningless to end the whole
mental
illness scam. Your contribution to the cause of helping me end mental
illness will be documented so that the world will know that you care
about people. As I have stated above, the cost annually worldwide is
trillions but I will just assume a cost of $1 trillion worldwide
annually. Is it too much to ask for 1% of $1 trillion to end mental
illness worldwide which equals $10 billion? Also take into account
that
the mental illness scam has existed for so long that the money that
was
wasted would total to an astronomical amount. There are expense that
has
to be taken in to consideration and people that will be used in the
process in ending the mental illness scam. The mental illness scam is
a
global problem and people all over the world can contribute to the
cause
of ending it.
There are many ways in which the mental illness scam can end but
so
far it has not. If what I do can lead to the mental illness scam
ending
directly or indirectly, then what I do is a service to the world. But
I
don't need $10 billion to end the mental illness scam, $1 billion
will
be sufficient to cover the expense which is a bargain in any
perspective. If I had $1 billion I would have spent it to end the
mental illness scam but I do not so I am counting on the public. This
is
just a step in achieving my goal so any contribution would help
towards
that outcome. There are so many charitable causes in the world that
continue to operate without any resolution but this one is different
because the mental illness scam will end and people will benefit
financially and mentally. Some of you may wonder how come I cannot be
stopped from what I am doing since I do not a medical degree? The
method
which I have outline to rid oneself of mental illness works as long
as
someone does not tamper with what you are doing. The method works
because mental illness is a scam. The government watchdog, drug
companies, researchers in the field of mental health have not end the
mental illness scam so this is the solution which I propose;
financially
support me in my quest to end the mental illness scam.
The contribution that you are making is a step in ending the
mental
illness scam. It can trigger people 's awareness of mental illness
being
a scam. Those agencies which monitored the area of mental health, law
enforcement, etc, who have decided not to take action may take
action.
It can also give you the peace of mind that the end result of your
contribution will result in the ending of the mental illness scam as
it
will be used for that purpose. The mental illness scam continues to
operate because there is nobody like myself who existed that would
take
it this far to challenge the psych industry
<mailbox:///P%7C/ThunderbirdPortable/Data/profile/Mail/Local%20Folders/
Templates?number=30801708&part=1.4&filename=index2.html>.
We want to live life free from being made mentally ill. Your
contribution is to help me help society.
If you want to contribute to end the mental illness scam:
http://www.destroypsychiatry.org/endmental.html
Ghod Dhammit
Obviously, compared to your scrawlings, it almost makes sense.
Uncle Vic
a7f36b...@18g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
> Here's what you're shrinking from like a limp Peter at the Passion:
>
> 1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
> exists
>
> ME: It was an accepted knowledge and practice, that witnesses can be
> formed as part of objective evidence, and whether or not Jurors
> believe on it, that is a separate matter.
>
> Information from the Bible reveals that Moses met God, and he
> testifies for our world that God is the creator of the universe.
Biblestories are not evidence of Biblegod. Sorry, Crankie.
--
Uncle Vic
Christopher A. Lee
And they wonder why they get treated as idiots.
Why can't they grasp that the Bible is only special to Christians -
and only taken as "proof" of what it says to fundamentalists?
After all, they don't take eg the Hindu scriptures as "proof" that
Hinduism is the truth.
Frankie Lee
> Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:42a68873-0c95-4c72-9b69-
> a7f36bb07...@18g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Here's what you're shrinking from like a limp Peter at the Passion:
>
> > 1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
> > exists
>
> > ME: It was an accepted knowledge and practice, that witnesses can be
> > formed as part of objective evidence, and whether or not Jurors
> > believe on it, that is a separate matter.
>
> > Information from the Bible reveals that Moses met God, and he
> > testifies for our world that God is the creator of the universe.
>
> Biblestories are not evidence of Biblegod. Sorry, Crankie.
>
> --
> Uncle Vic
***Biblestories are not evidence of Biblegod. Sorry, Crankie.
Evolutions is not evidence of Atheisms.
Communisms is not evidence of Atheisms.
Frankie Lee
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 10:17:12 -0500, Uncle Vic
>
>
>
>
>
> >Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:42a68873-0c95-4c72-9b69-
> >a7f36bb07...@18g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> >> 1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
> >> exists
>
> >> ME: It was an accepted knowledge and practice, that witnesses can be
> >> formed as part of objective evidence, and whether or not Jurors
> >> believe on it, that is a separate matter.
>
> >> Information from the Bible reveals that Moses met God, and he
> >> testifies for our world that God is the creator of the universe.
>
> >Biblestories are not evidence of Biblegod. Sorry, Crankie.
>
> And they wonder why they get treated as idiots.
>
> Why can't they grasp that the Bible is only special to Christians -
> and only taken as "proof" of what it says to fundamentalists?
>
> After all, they don't take eg the Hindu scriptures as "proof" that
>
> - Show quoted text -
Me: No wonder Atheist like you always remain a fool.Of course the
Bible is special to Christians.Don't you know that Christians embraced
it as God's words?
If we take take the Bible as Truths,how is it that we can lied to
ourself and say Hinduism is the truth,when we believe it is not?
No wonder you always show yourself as an idiot,and then try to call me
one.
Frankie Lee
***Do you believe only when you are in a Hell?(Can you decipher my
meaning?)
Wusong
> ***Do you believe only when you are in a Hell?(Can you decipher my
> meaning?)
I don't believe in Hell, so what's the problem? But you do, don't you?
So there *is* a problem, because you will be thrown into Hell - very
soon! Bwahahahaha!!
Your meaning? Who gives a shit about your meaning? I don't. Are you
speaking in tongues or in parables now? I have proven that you are a
LIAR and a FRAUD:
These are irrefutable proofs that you are a liar, a fraud, a lunatic,
and that you have the mind of a ten-year-old child (oh yes, you are
also a bigot):
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/8fdc53c778da7b40?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/1a944cf708586e8c?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/f8878e7666137efb?hl=en
Everyone knows this, but you are simply too dumb to be aware of it,
Syd M.
Idiot.
PDW
FreeThink
So we are in agreement. You have no evidence.
Mike Jones
I think you have all the evidence you need for that one. ;)
Starbuck
...and they do so on "faith"...not facts.
>
>If we take take the Bible as Truths,how is it that we can lied to
>ourself and say Hinduism is the truth,when we believe it is not?
And there in lies the problem Frankie. We don't care what you
"believe". The bible is not factual evidence.
>
>No wonder you always show yourself as an idiot,and then try to call me
>one.
And you continue to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
*$
TDNY
There is no one, nothing, floating around anywhere.
God and Satan exist in the human mind only.
Uncle Vic
1adf19...@d26g2000prn.googlegroups.com:
Does it hurt to be this stupid?
--
Uncle Vic
Uncle Vic
504b1c...@a19g2000prj.googlegroups.com:
> Me: No wonder Atheist like you always remain a fool.
You've been asked to put up or shut up. The evidence you supply is non-
empirical, like suggesting the Harry Potter books are evidence that wizards
exist. But when called on your error, all you can do is insult.
That has meaning, Crankie Lie.
It means you're spinning your wheels trying to satisfy our request, knowing
you can't. And that must have driven you crazy.
You *are* crazy, you know. At least with responses like the above, it's
the way you come off.
--
Uncle Vic
Uncle Vic
504b1c...@a19g2000prj.googlegroups.com:
> Me: No wonder Atheist like you always remain a fool.Of course the
> Bible is special to Christians.Don't you know that Christians embraced
> it as God's words?
How do you feel about the Quran? *That's* how we feel about all holy
books.
--
Uncle Vic
SkyEyes
> Here's what you're shrinking from like a limp Peter at the Passion:
>
> 1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
> exists
>
> ME: It was an accepted knowledge and practice, that witnesses can be
> formed as part of objective evidence, and whether or not Jurors
> believe on it, that is a separate matter.
No.
It used to be the "accepted knowledge and practice" that the sun and
the stars revolved around the earth.
It was wrong. So is this claim of yours.
>
> Information from the Bible reveals that Moses met God, and he
> testifies for our world that God is the creator of the universe. This
> God is dealing with Israel for a very long time, and credible witness
> wrote down histories, so that we can be informed.
Anybody can write anything in an old book. That they did does not
constitute evidence of a god.
> The time periods, places and people whom God was said to have
> interacted with human were all written down. It was detailed.
And yet there's no objective evidence that any of it ever happened.
Quelle surprise.
>
> 2. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours is
> the only deity there is .
>
> Me:I told my daughter that her grandfather was a bottled drinks
> employee,and he died young.Moses told me that God is the only Creator
> in his accounts. These are objective evidences,but then objective
> evidences can be discounted or accepted BY ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE, and
> that doesn’t changed the fact that they were OBJECTIVE EVIDENCES.
Surely, if a god exists and interacts with the world, there would be
objective evidence of it. Please point to some.
>
> Or perhaps you have in mind, a different type of Objective evidence.
> You must elaborate your fantasy Objective Evidence definition,
> according to your own mindset
Data. That which can be replicated.
>
> ****3. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
> created the universe and life on Earth
> ****4. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
> is
> not a figment of your imagination
> ****Or keep running, you pathetic coward; it's what you do best,
> after
> all.
> Budikka
>
> Me:Since you charge me as one who runs, and here I demonstrate I did
> not, so your comments are not valid, or noteworthy.
You run from us all the damn time, Frankie.
>
> God is not a figment of imagination is because He is alive and real.
I see no evidence of that. Bald assertions on your part do not
constitute evidence.
> As I chose to obey Him and His words, He answers my prayers, performs
> miracles for me and blesses me every day. God presented His case so
> well, and so powerful, so bowed down and submit to His reasons and
> rationales and commandments.
No, he doesn't.
>
> God told me that Peace can be found in Him, and when I tasted His
> words, peace came, and joys too. Love came too. Help from Him came
> too.There is an out-of-the-world experience of comfort and assurance
> that I could never have known, except it is from God.
I have plenty of "peace" without needing to believe in an unevidenced
supernatural being.
>
> People may say my experience could be just some Psychologies,but since
> I am the one who feel it,who could better analyse better than myself
> who is actually going through the experience.
No, since you're the one who had it, you're the *least* well-suited to
"analyze" it.
>
> People may say I am hallucinating, but who knows better than myself?
Everyone who doesn't experience the hallucination.
>
> It is a common practice that we accept people’s testimonies and words
> and formed that as part of our life.Some may be lies and nonsense, but
> some are truthful and real.
Er, *no*. I don't know what it's like in Singapore, but here you have
to back up your assertions with facts.
>
> I testify to you that my God is true, and He is coming to judge the
> world soon. The questions and problems you have is, do you believe in
> me and my words.
No, I do *not*.
>
> One wise man declare’If God want to let us know Him,he should come
> down and show us”.God came down,and God showed us,talk to man
> directly,live among man,give His teachings and instructions.He told
> His disciples to spread His words and do His works.
> His teachings and deeds are to be compiled,and they did.”
*If* a god exists, and wants me to "believe in" her/him/it, then s/he/
it knows *exactly* what it would take to convince me of its existence.
Inasmuch as nothing remotely convincing has ever happened to me, I can
only conclude that either no god exists, or a god exists but doesn't
care if I believe in her/him/it. Since Occam's Razor says take the
simplest answer, I must conclude that no god exists.
>
> The Biblical accounts are always very objective, and it relates the
> stories accordingly.
No, they are not. And recent archaeological research has pointed to
several of them as distinctly *untrue*.
People can examine, study, accept or refused to
> believe. God will back up his words, and promise to do what He said He
> will do, so as to confirm His credibility and truthfulness. Since
> Jesus is alive, He will need to show to those who hearken His words
> that He is indeed alive. In fact, He had. He will do it again, and
> again, and again.
<Yawn>
Still don't believe you, Frankie-stein.
>
> When I was young, I was wondering why such great and marvellous things
> not shown to the entire world, of the things I had seen and heard, and
> those events were most convincing and dramatic.
>
> Later on, I discover that obnoxious people will pervert what is good
> and turn it upside down by their craftiness and deceits. Thus what is
> great proof of God, become erratic before our world? I remember then
> there are deceivers and there are those who don’t deserve to
> experience such great things from the Lord.
Convenient excuse. Obviously your god doesn't want evil people to
change their ways. Otherwise, s/he/it would do something to convince
those evildoers, wouldn't s/he/it?
>
> General William booth was a lazy Christian, half- past- six one. Jesus
> called him up to Heaven. Jesus displayed man and women who did great
> deeds for Him, and many were martyred for Him, and great admiration of
> looks Jesus cast upon them all.
>
> He came back to this earth, founded the Salvation Army, and this
> witness warmed the hearts of all human beings, and great respect and
> honour were given to him and Salvation Army ever since.
Hallucinations again.
>
> Again, one can disrespect his Faith or works. How then can those
> parents who abandoned their kids in the alleys, hoping they would die,
> but was help by Salvation Army not hated Salvation Army?
>
> How can the Red Cross be loved by people who wanted to cause havoc
> and disasters? Only the rationale people would love the founder Jesus
> Christ, and the Red Cross is so Red, signifying His Blood, His love
> for the world, up till this day, none could erase the Redness of the
> Red Cross.
Uh, the Red Cross was *not* founded as a christian organization; the
cross in its logo is *not* the christian cross.
Lots of cultures produce crosses used as decorations. They don't all
refer to christianity.
>
> Jesus shows love for all human beings, died on the cross to save
> sinners. This is love, and according to God’s standard and critical
> thinking, it is enough proof of Himself and His relations with the
> world.
Why couldn't your god have just said, "I forgive all of you" and let
it go at that?
>
> Can our world make insane demands, and erratic rationale to compel Him
> to suit our fantasies and our devious definition as to what is
> evidence?
Yup, we can and we do. If he wants us to believe, he's gonna have to
pony up some hard evidence.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com
Don Martin
At this level, stupidity is anesthetic.
-
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
The Squeeky Wheel: http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
Frankie Lee
> Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:fba96d80-64ed-44a6-8e01-
> 504b1c3f9...@a19g2000prj.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Me: No wonder Atheist like you always remain a fool.
>
> You've been asked to put up or shut up. The evidence you supply is non-
> empirical, like suggesting the Harry Potter books are evidence that wizards
> exist. But when called on your error, all you can do is insult.
>
> That has meaning, Crankie Lie.
>
> It means you're spinning your wheels trying to satisfy our request, knowing
> you can't. And that must have driven you crazy.
>
> You *are* crazy, you know. At least with responses like the above, it's
> the way you come off.
>
> --
> Uncle Vic
** The evidence you supply is non-
empirical, like suggesting the Harry Potter books are evidence that
wizards
exist.
Frankie's reply: The book of Acts were written.The evidence is
empirical,because Acts continue till this day!
Do you know what I mean?
Frankie Lee
> On Apr 3, 7:41 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:> It > > > One wise man declare’If God want to let us know Him,he should come
> > down and show us”.God came down,and God showed us,talk to man>
> >
> EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> On Apr 3, 7:41 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Here's what you're shrinking from like a limp Peter at the Passion:
>
> > 1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
> > exists
>
> > ME: It was an accepted knowledge and practice, that witnesses can be
> > formed as part of objective evidence, and whether or not Jurors
> > believe on it, that is a separate matter.
>
> No.
>
> It used to be the "accepted knowledge and practice" that the sun and
> the stars revolved around the earth.
@ As I have said before, Witnesses can formed part of the Objective
Evidence.
We mean “Objective Evidence” that is still accepted in our day.
Eg...A prosecutor can call up an Objective witness to state his views
and points, or rely in his professional expertise on a particular
matter.
This in essence is an Objective Evidence, given by the fellow in
questions.Again, whether in actuality were his views correct, the
jurors still got to decide.
You see, you made analogies to the “accepted knowledge and practice”on
stars and sun doesn’t connect to the issue of what is “Objective
Evidence”.
> It was wrong. So is this claim of yours.
>
>
>
> > Information from the Bible reveals that Moses met God, and he
> > testifies for our world that God is the creator of the universe. This
> > God is dealing with Israel for a very long time, and credible witness
> > wrote down histories, so that we can be informed.
>
> Anybody can write anything in an old book. That they did does not
> constitute evidence of a god.
@ Anybody can write anything in any book. If they write about flying
spagheti, it has evidence about Flying spaghetti. Whether or not you
believe in it that is a different issue. But that is evidence.
The Bible writers wrote about God’s dealings with man. There are
plenty of evidences in it. Whether you believe it is true or not, you
cannot negate that as not “Evidential”.
The Bible authors gave evidence of the Creator God, and gave evidences
by writing His accounts.Again,it is still evidence, and whether you
accept it or not, you cannot call that’non-evidence”.You can only say,
“I do not accept the evidences as credible, or make sense to me”.
How little is your grasp on English languages!
> > The time periods, places and people whom God was said to have
> > interacted with human were all written down. It was detailed.
>
> And yet there's no objective evidence that any of it ever happened.
> Quelle surprise.
@ I had already stated that there are a lot of Objective evidences,
and it is just that you do not accept it as proof, and it doesn’t
negate that as Objective Evidence.
Why you must as an atheist made a fool out of yourself, and I must
school you on such simple things again?
Wusong
(trash snipped)
Frankie Lee, you are a LIAR and a FRAUD!
Frankie Lee
Yup, we can and we do. If he wants us to believe, he's gonna have to
pony up some hard evidence
Frankie's reply: Now you grasp a little bit,and you want **hard**
evidence.Now I see you as being wiser than before here.Yes,you need
hard evidence,objective evidence and credible evidence in order for
you to place your bet on it right?
This concerns our eternity.This is one bet we cannot afford to lose
because it hinges on eternal sufferings or eternal bliss.
Then go and do your research,dude!Go and find the hard evidence,and
not just mere evidence.
Seek and ye shall find...Jesus.
Wusong
> Seek and ye shall find...Jesus.
Why Lee Ah Kwee ? Is Jesus lost? Haven't you found him yet?
Yap
> On Apr 4, 6:45 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.cum> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apw 4, 6:18 pm, Wuthong <wuth...@wokketmaiw.kom> wote:
>
> > > (trash snipped)
>
> > > Frankie Lee, you are a LIAR and a FRAUD!
>
> > > These are irrefutable proofs that you are a liar, a fraud, a lunatic,
> > > and that you have the mind of a ten-year-old child (oh yes, you are
> > > also a bigot):
>
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/1a944cf708586e8c...
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/f8878e7666137efb...
>
> > > because you can't see further than your nose at what is going on in
> > > the world. Your are blinded by ignorance and superstition - you are
> > > nothing but a false preacher.
>
> > > Quod erat demonstrandum.
>
> > > You can't pray or wangle your way out of this one.
>
> > > Now then, which part of that could you not understand?
>
> > iwwewefent hewe?Ith it not twue you hope to dithkwedit my
> > methageth,and by uthing thith undewhand methodth,hoping
> > undewhand-methodth' nutth wike you wouwd thide awong with you?
>
> > What kan you pothibwy atthiefe by being ewwaktik and dithpway
> > thwandewouth habit?Whiwe you thought thothe thiwwy poftth wiww gawnew
> > thuppowt,but it wiww boomewang.Peopwe go fow wogith and weathonth--not
> > any-o-how make thwandewth.
>
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
What is the difference....you are just as insane and a real sucker.
You can't even acknowledge that the bible was written by goat herders
for the Middle-eastern people and the Jews.
Your wish to become one of them will not be successful since medical
fraternity has not invented color change for human yet....you stupid
yellow species.
Yap
The name Saddam Hussein existed until today....so he must be alive?
What an idiot this Crankie can be !!
Yap
Idiot.
Do you even know that hell is only reserved for Christians bastards
like you?
Yap
You don't even have the white skin to call jesus.....you yellow
scumbag.
Andre Lieven
> On Apr 5, 6:21 am, Uncle Vic <urkiddingri...@nonono.com> wrote:
>
> > Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:fba96d80-64ed-44a6-8e01-
> > 504b1c3f9...@a19g2000prj.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > Me: No wonder Atheist like you always remain a fool.
>
> > You've been asked to put up or shut up. The evidence you supply is non-
> > empirical, like suggesting the Harry Potter books are evidence that wizards
> > exist. But when called on your error, all you can do is insult.
>
> > That has meaning, Crankie Lie.
>
> > It means you're spinning your wheels trying to satisfy our request, knowing
> > you can't. And that must have driven you crazy.
>
> > You *are* crazy, you know. At least with responses like the above, it's
> > the way you come off.
>
>
> ** The evidence you supply is non-
> empirical, like suggesting the Harry Potter books are evidence that
> wizards exist.
>
> Frankie's reply: The book of Acts were written.
Yes, and fiction is written, as well.
> The evidence is
> empirical, because Acts continue till this day!
-That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed
without evidence.
Your Score: Epic Fail.
> Do you know what I mean?
Yes; Your meds have totally failed.
Andre
Wusong
(trash snipped)
You are not doing well at all in responding to others' posts, are you,
Ah Kwee? But then, you are not really trying to defend Christianity,
are you, Ah Kwee, but to ridicule it. You name is, after all 亚鬼 - the
Devil himself.
Uncle Vic
>
>
> ** The evidence you supply is non-
> empirical, like suggesting the Harry Potter books are evidence that
> wizards
> exist.
>
> Frankie's reply: The book of Acts were written.The evidence is
> empirical,because Acts continue till this day!
> Do you know what I mean?
>
No. Please expand on this.
--
Uncle Vic
Uncle Vic
news:iunkp6do2qujdmn65...@4ax.com:
>>Does it hurt to be this stupid?
>
> At this level, stupidity is anesthetic.
It's mind-numbing, to say the very least.
--
Uncle Vic
Uncle Vic
4ad8d4...@l2g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
> On Apr 5, 8:20 am, SkyEyes <skyey...@
>
> Yup, we can and we do. If he wants us to believe, he's gonna have to
> pony up some hard evidence
>
> Frankie's reply: Now you grasp a little bit,and you want **hard**
> evidence.Now I see you as being wiser than before here.Yes,you need
> hard evidence,objective evidence and credible evidence in order for
> you to place your bet on it right?
>
> This concerns our eternity.This is one bet we cannot afford to lose
> because it hinges on eternal sufferings or eternal bliss.
Sounds fishy to me. Gee, Crankie, what's that smell? Why, it's Pascal's
dead Wager.
>
> Then go and do your research,dude!Go and find the hard evidence,and
> not just mere evidence.
It's your claim, you supply the evidence.
>
> Seek and ye shall find...Jesus.
>
Next time try seeking whilst sober.
--
Uncle Vic
Wusong
Jimbo
> On Apr 4, 11:17 pm, Uncle Vic <urkiddingri...@nonono.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:42a68873-0c95-4c72-9b69-
> > a7f36bb07...@18g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > Here's what you're shrinking from like a limp Peter at the Passion:
>
> > > 1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
> > > exists
>
> > > ME: It was an accepted knowledge and practice, that witnesses can be
> > > formed as part of objective evidence, and whether or not Jurors
> > > believe on it, that is a separate matter.
>
> > > testifies for our world that God is the creator of the universe.
>
>
> > --
> > Uncle Vic
>
> ***Biblestories are not evidence of Biblegod. Sorry, Crankie.
>
> Evolutions is not evidence of Atheisms.
>
LOL! You're completely daft!
Jimbo
> On Apr 4, 11:46 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > <urkiddingri...@nonono.com> wrote:
> > >Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:42a68873-0c95-4c72-9b69-
> > >a7f36bb07...@18g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > >> Here's what you're shrinking from like a limp Peter at the Passion:
>
> > >> 1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
> > >> exists
>
> > >> ME: It was an accepted knowledge and practice, that witnesses can be
> > >> formed as part of objective evidence, and whether or not Jurors
> > >> believe on it, that is a separate matter.
>
> > >> Information from the Bible reveals that Moses met God, and he
> > >> testifies for our world that God is the creator of the universe.
>
> > >Biblestories are not evidence of Biblegod. Sorry, Crankie.
>
>
> > Why can't they grasp that the Bible is only special to Christians -
> > and only taken as "proof" of what it says to fundamentalists?
>
> > After all, they don't take eg the Hindu scriptures as "proof" that
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
The only fool here is you.
Jimbo
> On Apr 4, 7:02 pm, Wusong <wus...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 4月4日, 上午6时40分, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > ***Can you explain to all readers why you make reply,which is
> > > irrelevent here?Is it not true you hope to discredit my messages,and
> > > by using this underhand methods,hoping underhand-methods' nuts like
> > > you would side along with you?
>
> > > What can you possibly achieve by being erractic and display slanderous
> > > habit?While you thought those silly posts will garner support,but it
> > > will boomerang.People go for logics and reasons--not any-o-how make
> > > slanders.
>
> > > Futiles!
>
> > Your lies and fraudulent past will FOREVER haunt you till the day you
> > enter Hell.
>
> ***Do you believe only when you are in a Hell?(
Ah yes, the religion of threat and fear. You idiots have been
spouting that crap for a very long time. Do you have any evidence (of
the scientific, empirical variety( that hell exists? (Outside of a
small town in Michigan, that is..)
Jimbo
No they don't.
Jimbo
> On Apr 5, 8:20 am, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 3, 7:41 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:> It > > > One wise man declare’If God want to let us know Him,he should come
> > > down and show us”.God came down,and God showed us,talk to man>
>
> > Still don't believe you, Frankie-stein.>
> > Hallucinations again.> > Red Cross.> > BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> > EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> > On Apr 3, 7:41 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Here's what you're shrinking from like a limp Peter at the Passion:
>
> > > 1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
> > > exists
>
> > > ME: It was an accepted knowledge and practice, that witnesses can be
> > > formed as part of objective evidence, and whether or not Jurors
> > > believe on it, that is a separate matter.
>
> > No.
>
> > It used to be the "accepted knowledge and practice" that the sun and
> > the stars revolved around the earth.
>
> @ As I have said before, Witnesses can formed part of the Objective
> Evidence.
>
> We mean “Objective Evidence” that is still accepted in our day.
>
Accepted by nutballs and lunatics. Anyone that has studied the bible
knows that your "witnesses" were undocumented by any real scientific
methos. The "four gospels" were unsigned manuscripts whose authorship
was unknown, so the early church simply assigned authors to them.
These manuscripts, written decades after the alleged death of your
alleged "savior", are not clear evidence of anything other than early
fiction writers. They are not objective evidence.
Frankie Lee
> On Apr 4, 10:16 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 8:20 am, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
> > Accepted by nutballs and lunatics. Anyone that has studied the bible
> knows that your "witnesses" were undocumented by any real scientific
> methos.
Reply: Do you know you sound dumb?The disciples live and walk with
Jesus.They just relate what happened and simply tell the stories.You
mean they needed academic license and to go through scientific courses
as to how best to write their stories?A witness just say what he sees
and hears.Why is it such simple things you can get muddied headed?
There are many people reading all these things.How come atheists
people like you always want to exalt your foolishness before me?
The "four gospels" were unsigned manuscripts whose authorship
> was unknown, so the early church simply assigned authors to them.
Matthew wrote the story,and how it can be wrong for those who had this
infos ,those who were close to Matthew,attribute it to him?Luke wrote
Luke,and he was writing to someone.So how ignorant were your any-o-how
suggestions!
Hebrews had no Author ascribe to it.Paul and Peter,or the rest they do
leave their distinct mark as the original author/writer.
> These manuscripts, written decades after the alleged death of your
> alleged "savior", are not clear evidence of anything other than early
> fiction writers. They are not objective evidence.- Hide quoted text -
>
Didn't Jesus rose from the dead and commune with them for many days?
What rationale can you give,just because it was decades after Jesus
death,so it was fiction?You mean during those days they cannot record
things down through various means?After decades had gone by,so those
records about Holocaust became a fiction,is that so?
I really don't like to reply to fools like you.
SkyEyes
> On Apr 5, 8:20 am, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 3, 7:41 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:> It > > > One wise man declare’If God want to let us know Him,he should come
> > > down and show us”.God came down,and God showed us,talk to man>
>
> > Still don't believe you, Frankie-stein.>
> > Hallucinations again.> > Red Cross.> > BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> > EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> > On Apr 3, 7:41 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Here's what you're shrinking from like a limp Peter at the Passion:
>
> > > 1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
> > > exists
>
> > > ME: It was an accepted knowledge and practice, that witnesses can be
> > > formed as part of objective evidence, and whether or not Jurors
> > > believe on it, that is a separate matter.
>
> > No.
>
> > It used to be the "accepted knowledge and practice" that the sun and
> > the stars revolved around the earth.
>
> @ As I have said before, Witnesses can formed part of the Objective
> Evidence.
But "witnesses" are highly fallible. Unless their testimony is backed
up with forensics, their testimony is worthless.
> We mean “Objective Evidence” that is still accepted in our day.
>
> Eg...A prosecutor can call up an Objective witness to state his views
> and points, or rely in his professional expertise on a particular
> matter.
> This in essence is an Objective Evidence, given by the fellow in
> questions.Again, whether in actuality were his views correct, the
> jurors still got to decide.
> You see, you made analogies to the “accepted knowledge and practice”on
> stars and sun doesn’t connect to the issue of what is “Objective
> Evidence”.
You still haven't presented any "objective evidence." I reject
"testimony" written down in old books because (1) the authorship of
most of those books are in doubt and (2) anybody can write anything in
a book.
>
> > It was wrong. So is this claim of yours.
>
> > > Information from the Bible reveals that Moses met God, and he
> > > testifies for our world that God is the creator of the universe. This
> > > God is dealing with Israel for a very long time, and credible witness
> > > wrote down histories, so that we can be informed.
>
> > Anybody can write anything in an old book. That they did does not
> > constitute evidence of a god.
>
> @ Anybody can write anything in any book. If they write about flying
> spagheti, it has evidence about Flying spaghetti. Whether or not you
> believe in it that is a different issue. But that is evidence.
There's *exactly* as much evidence for the Flying Spaghetti Monster as
there is for your god.
>
> The Bible writers wrote about God’s dealings with man.
The bible writers wrote *myths*, just like the Greeks did, and the
Japanese, and the Norse people, and the Native Americans.
Myths are stories meant to resonate in the human mind; they are
stories of the human condition.
They are *not* meant to be taken literally.
> There are
> plenty of evidences in it.
If there are, why do you never present any?
> Whether you believe it is true or not, you
> cannot negate that as not “Evidential”.
Watch me: what is written in the bible is "evidence" only that the
Hebrews/Israelites wrote their own mythology.
>
> The Bible authors gave evidence of the Creator God,
Bible stories are *not* evidence of any god.
> and gave evidences by writing His accounts
Ah, yes, the great christian circular argument: "The Bible is God's
word, therefore, the Bible proves God exists."
No, it doesn't.
Try finding some evidence of the existence of a god *outside* of the
bible.
> Again,it is still evidence, and whether you
> accept it or not, you cannot call that’non-evidence”.
Watch me: IT'S NON-EVIDENCE.
> You can only say,
> “I do not accept the evidences as credible, or make sense to me”.
No, I say IT'S NOT EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING - other than that the Hebrews
wrote mythology.
> How little is your grasp on English languages!t
>
> > > The time periods, places and people whom God was said to have
> > > interacted with human were all written down. It was detailed.
>
> > And yet there's no objective evidence that any of it ever happened.
> > Quelle surprise.
>
> @ I had already stated that there are a lot of Objective evidences,
But yet you never produce any.
> and it is just that you do not accept it as proof, and it doesn’t
> negate that as Objective Evidence.
Stuff written in old books is *not* "objective evidence."
> Why you must as an atheist made a fool out of yourself, and I must
> school you on such simple things again?
You don't know what "objective evidence" is, Frankie. I'll give you a
hint: it's not crap written in an old book, much of which is
demonstrably wrong, untrue, and contrary to the way reality works.
However, I have a way for you to provide some objective evidence:
pray to your god to heal my Significant Other, who is an amputee.
Modern medicine cannot accomplish that; if his missing limbs reappear,
it would be pretty solid evidence that some supernatural agency was at
work.
Are you up for the challenge?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
Michael Gray
<wus...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>On 4??4??, ????7??24??, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Seek and ye shall find...Jesus.
>
>Why Lee Ah Kwee ? Is Jesus lost? Haven't you found him yet?
Look behind the sofa cushions.
--
"Science is organized common sense where many a beautiful theory was killed by an ugly fact"
TH Huxley
Andre Lieven
> On Apr 4, 12:01 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 4, 7:02 pm, Wusong <wus...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 4月4日, 上午6时40分, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > ***Can you explain to all readers why you make reply,which is
> > > > by using this underhand methods,hoping underhand-methods' nuts like
> > > > you would side along with you?
> >
> > > > What can you possibly achieve by being erractic and display slanderous
> > > > will boomerang. People go for logics and reasons--not any-o-how make
> > > > slanders.
> >
> > > > Futiles!
> >
> > > Your lies and fraudulent past will FOREVER haunt you till the day you
> > > enter Hell.
> >
> > ***Do you believe only when you are in a Hell?(
>
> Ah yes, the religion of threat and fear. You idiots have been
> spouting that crap for a very long time. Do you have any evidence (of
> the scientific, empirical variety( that hell exists? (Outside of a
> small town in Michigan, that is..)
Amusing that Hell is about 85 KM from Climax... :-)
Andre
Wusong
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 20:12:00 -0700 (PDT), Wusong
>
> Look behind the sofa cushions.
Did, nope, ain't there. Is Lee Ah Kwee looking as well?
Wusong
Does that mean Lee Ah Kwee goes to Hell, if and when he comes to
Climax, or vice versa?
Wusong
> I really don't like to reply to fools like you.
>
You mean you *cannot* reply to "fools" like him, who dare think and
formulate for themselves, instead of blindly following your
superstitious nonsense. Keep your sermons for the sheep in your
church, 亚鬼. No one listens to your crap on the internet.
M.Gambon
To what sort of "fools" do you really like to reply then, Frankie Lee?
If you want to talk about how wonderful Jesus is and what he has done
for you and what he can do for others, you have to do it in your
church or in the privacy of your home - behind closed doors. These are
public Usenet groups, where people are allowed, and encouraged, to
speak out their minds openly and freely without any fear of being
persecuted. You have written many posts that encouraged others to
respond in a way that they believe to be true, but you then turned
around and accused them of all sorts of sacrilegious stupidity. I
think everyone is well aware that your poor English prevents you from
fully understanding what the responses truly meant, and that your hard-
headedness would simply not open to other people's ideas other than
those with which you have been brainwashed. So as long as you post
your ideas on public Usenet groups, you will get replies that you
don't like to hear. "If you can't stand the heat, get the fuck out of
the kitchen" - pardon my French.
Mike Jones
Joking aside, you could be onto something here.
Only those completely numbed to reality could possibly be as idiotic
about it as the average godbot, so maybe we're seeing some kind of
psychological program running that works like intellectual anesthetic?
What Dennet called a "toxic meme" might actually be meme anesthetic?
Colanth
<lu...@dasteem.invalid> wrote:
>Only those completely numbed to reality could possibly be as idiotic
>about it as the average godbot, so maybe we're seeing some kind of
>psychological program running that works like intellectual anesthetic?
>
>What Dennet called a "toxic meme" might actually be meme anesthetic?
Just as morphine clogs up certain receptors in nerve cells, religion
clogs up certain receptors in the thinking parts of the brain.
Religion = thought morphine.
--
3 out of 4 Americans make up 75% of the population.
Uncle Vic
news:qh2np6p1n3b3pgd7n...@4ax.com:
> Religion = thought morphine.
Yup. I like that.
--
Uncle Vic
Wakalukong
>
> - Show quoted text -
Careful now, when you refuse to join his circus, Frankie gets angry
and gets all heated up and starts farting in all directions. Also,
his poor English is only part of his problem. His biggest problems
are his poor state of mind and character.
Wakalukong
Yap
Not just that.
Why would a yellow species in the Far East has anything to do with the
blood religion meant for the Whites and the Middle-eastern people,
especially the Jews/Israelites?
Specifically, the scripture talked about Israelites being the only
chosen people.....not even the Whites are included, although they had
adopted the fantasy long ago.
>
> Wakalukong
Alex
kewkahfat...@hotmail.com
http://www.kewkahfatt.9f.com/index.html
http://members.multimania.co.uk/alexkew/index.html
http://kewkahfatt.blogspot.com/index.html
Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the
coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: 4:6 And he shall
turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the
children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a
curse.
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of
the most High.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said,
Ye are gods?
1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that
the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
FRANKIE LEE
>
***It is my prerogatives as to who I would choose to reply.Out of my
patience and kindness,I showed you on which points you erred,and which
were nonsensicals.How little you have known about Christianity,for you
mentioned that I should share Jesus' goodness behind closed doors,and
only in a Church.Christ gave all Christians the mandate to share His
good news outside the Church,and not just behind closed doors.How come
you showed your extreme ignorance here again?
I showed many folks their follies by rebuttals and common sense.I
don't give hot-air and not back up with rationales.Picking on my
English only make you actually look lame in the midst of it all.Trying
to argue your way out,poking at my English,supposing such condecending
style would make your points shine better than mine,well,it won't
stick.
I have shown that I do tolerate idiotic ideas,and even to make
corrections with care as to why yours were foolish,and why mine is far
superior.
You can shoot at my points,but I will also hammer yours with real
reasons,and condemn you with force and show why yours were immorally
evil.
FRANKIE LEE
>
> - Show quoted text -
**For a fact --you cannot give one proper analysis to the state of my
mind,and tell me which part of my English became unclear to
you,perhaps seeking clarifications from me as to what I actually meant
in my words--you are babblings nonsense,isn't it?
FRANKIE LEE
***Did you not listen to my "crap"again and again?
Jimbo
> On Apr 5, 7:27 pm, Jimbo <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 4, 10:16 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 5, 8:20 am, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > Accepted by nutballs and lunatics. Anyone that has studied the bible
> > knows that your "witnesses" were undocumented by any real scientific
> > methos.
>
> Reply: Do you know you sound dumb?
lol! The fact remains that the four gospels were unsigned manuscripts
and the church simply assigned authorship to them. Pure and simple,
no one knows who wrote them. Once again, you're attempting to use
the contradictory and error filled bible to prove the contradictory
and error filled bible.
It simply doesn't wash.
Jimbo
lol! The only thing you've thus far succeeded in doing is confirming
that he is correct. You're a godbotian idiot of the first order.
Wusong
These are irrefutable proofs that you are a liar, a fraud, a lunatic,
and that you have the mind of a ten-year-old child (oh yes, you are
also a bigot):
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/8fdc53c778da7b40?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/1a944cf708586e8c?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/f8878e7666137efb?hl=en
Everyone knows this, but you are simply too dumb to be aware of it,
because you can't see further than your nose at what is going on in
the world. Your are blinded by ignorance and superstition - you are
nothing but a false preacher.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
You can't pray or wangle your way out of this one.
Wusong
Like I asked you before, whatever gave you the idea that I read your
posts "again and again"? Once was enough to know that your posts are
crap. You are so ignorant that you can only think with your
superstitious mind-set.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/8fdc53c778da7b40?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/1a944cf708586e8c?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/f8878e7666137efb?hl=en
Quod erat demonstrandum.
Now then, which part of that could you not understand?
M.Gambon
You call those "real reasons", do you? Your profile has shown that you
have written over 10,989 posts to date, in no less than 217 different
newsgroups, including alt.support.boy-lovers and
alt.politics.homosexuality (!!), right from way back in September,
2006:
You have been saying the same trash over and over again, showing your
inability to learn that no one in public Usenet groups appreciates
your religious lies. So, what do you think you have achieved other
than being ridiculed and proven to be a liar and a fraud? Has Jesus
told you to do this, or have you merely convinced yourself that Jesus
told you to do this? Your stupidity brings only shame to other
Christians who are living useful lives as Christians instead of making
fools of themselves the way you do.
Yap
Yes, and we also see that you have thrown your ancestor name to
Frankie as well....wait till you meet up with your great grandpa who
is more likely to clobber you daily until you find hell is a better
place.
Wakalukong
>
> - Show quoted text -
I sure could tell you which part of your "English" was er... not
English: the part from start to finish in every post of yours. As to
the state of your mind, it's deranged.
Wakalukong
Wusong
I believe in neither Heaven nor Hell, so that doesn't bother me the
slightest bit.
Pepsi
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 08:56:56 -0700 (PDT), Frankie Lee
> <leea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 4, 11:46 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 10:17:12 -0500, Uncle Vic
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <urkiddingri...@nonono.com> wrote:
>>> >Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> >news:42a68873-0c95-4c72-9b69-
>>> >a7f36bb07...@18g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>> >> Here's what you're shrinking from like a limp Peter at the Passion:
>>>
>>> >> 1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
>>> >> exists
>>>
>>> >> ME: It was an accepted knowledge and practice, that witnesses can be
>>> >> formed as part of objective evidence, and whether or not Jurors
>>> >> believe on it, that is a separate matter.
It WAS, until investigation showed that "eye-witnesses" were the least
reliable form of evidence.
"Can be" does NOT equal "are".
No rational support or evidence here!
>>>
>>> >> Information from the Bible reveals that Moses met God, and he
>>> >> testifies for our world that God is the creator of the universe.
You must now prove that the bible is a reliable source of totally
supportable facts.
No rational support or evidence here!
>>>
>>> >Biblestories are not evidence of Biblegod. Sorry, Crankie.
>>>
>>> And they wonder why they get treated as idiots.
>>>
>>> Why can't they grasp that the Bible is only special to Christians -
>>> and only taken as "proof" of what it says to fundamentalists?
>>>
>>> After all, they don't take eg the Hindu scriptures as "proof" that
>>> Hinduism is the truth.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>Me: No wonder Atheist like you always remain a fool.Of course the
>>Bible is special to Christians.Don't you know that Christians embraced
>>it as God's words?
??????? Atheists are fools because they know that there is no difference
between a Christian's belief in the bible, and a Muslim's belief in the
Koran?
No rational thought here, at all.
Wusong
"Rational thought"? Frankie 亚鬼 Lee rational? ROTFL! Come on, gimme a
break. If Frankie 亚鬼 Lee were rational, he wouldn't have dumped all
that religious garbage here in these newsgroups all those years since
he started. What he wants is attention, because he doesn't get any of
it in his real miserable life, and he gets it here.
Mike Jones
Apostate
alt.atheism:
>Responding to: Uncle Vic
>
>> Colanth <col...@pern.invalid> wrote in
>> news:qh2np6p1n3b3pgd7n...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Religion = thought morphine.
>>
>> Yup. I like that.
>
>
>Memephine?
Nah, I can quit any time I want to.
--
Apostate alt.atheist #1931 plonktheist #1
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer freelance Minion #'e'
EAC Deputy Director in Charge of Getting Paid,
Department of Redundancy Department
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure
and the intelligent are full of doubt." -- Bertrand Russell
"Mr. Worf, set phasers on "Fuck You" and fire at will."
-- Doc Smartass
"Nature has a dark sense of humor, but life is certainly
one of the things it laughs at."
-- Rinaldo of Capadoccia
e-mail to %mynick%periodaaperiod%myAA#%@gee!mail!dottedcommie
M.Gambon
So, according to you, anything anyone else writes that does not concur
with your ignorant mind is "immorally evil". That just about sums up
your ability to reason, and your state of mind, Frankie Lee - you are
a lunatic.
Your profile has shown that you have written over 10,989 posts to
date, in no less than 217 different newsgroups, including
alt.support.boy-lovers and alt.politics.homosexuality (!!), right from
way back in September, 2006:
You have been saying the same trash over and over again, showing your
inability to learn that no one in public Usenet groups appreciates
your religious lies. So, what do you think you have achieved other
than being ridiculed and proven to be a liar and a fraud? Has Jesus
told you to do this, or have you merely convinced yourself that Jesus
told you to do this? Your stupidity brings only shame to other
Christians who are living useful lives as Christians instead of making
fools of themselves the way you do.
The reason for the low percentage of Christians in Singapore (17.5% -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Singapore ) can be
attributed to ignorant people like yourself, who literally scare away
would-be converts by your sheer stupidity and hardheadedness. No one
wants to be a Christian, if being a Christian means that he/she
becomes as ignorant and stupid in the real world that he/she lives in.
Your "ministry" on the Internet has failed - miserably.
Colanth
<leea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>By swearing one will tell the truths on a Holy Bible,thus it is on
>outset an asssumption that the person is telling the truths
Only by Christians. Others don't consider the Bible to be anything
more than a book of nonsense.
>otherwise why doubt him if he needs to swear on the Book stating that he will
>not to tell lies?
Moral people don't need to swear on a book to tell the truth - they
just do. Amoral people, like Christians, need to be made afraid of a
make-believe god to tell the truth.
>Unless one can point to the error or lies the witness
>give,the testimony is accepted neutrally or can be said/asssume to be
>credible.
Only if it appears credible. Moral people don't assume that by
swearing on a book, testimony becomes credible.
>> You still haven't presented any "objective evidence." I reject
>> "testimony" written down in old books because (1) the authorship of
>> most of those books are in doubt and (2) anybody can write anything in
>> a book.
>
>@ Hebrew's authorship and a few others were in question.The Compilers
>guarantee that it is of the utmost credibility that the person/or
>persons who wrote that can be trusted.
The New Testament was written by unknown authors. The Council of
Nicaea gave names to the books, sometimes based on who the authors
followed. But in 325 AD, there was no way they could know who had
authored a manuscript that was written in 200 AD. They guessed.
(As far as the Old Testament is concerned, there are at least TWO of
them, the Yawist and the Elohist. They were combined later - maybe as
late as 400 BC - into what we now call the Old Testament.)
>
>One fact is certain.The contents are there
The contents of the history of Superman are there too - but that
doesn't mean that Superman actually exists.
>You cannot reject,or accept the Book's testimony
>base on your reasons of the Authorship which is unknown--- as reasons
>to support your views.
Okay, let's reject it on this basis. The Bible claims that Jesus came
from Nazareth. Jesus died around 33 AD. Nazareth didn't exist until
135 AD. So the story is nonsense.
>You can be neutral only.Making conclusion before
>a case is studied and investigate ,that sound premature,and is an
>uninformed judgment.
And, since the case was just studied, and the story was found to be
totally impossible, we can make a valid conclusion that it's nonsense.
>
>Anybody can write anybook,and our world has,with nonsense etc...That
>is why credible people lend their support,with their names,and their
>personal integrity to vouch its goodness or greatness of the book.
But the Bible, as I've just shown, *isn't* credible.
>> Watch me: what is written in the bible is "evidence" only that the
>> Hebrews/Israelites wrote their own mythology.
>
>@ The people,the Jews said it was documents of God and they didn't say
>it is mythology.
MANY people in those days claimed that their god stories were "written
by" their god. Are you going to accept all of them? If not, why not?
>You see,you made unwise assumptions that it was mythology
Assertions without evidence (not testimony) can be dismissed without
evidence. What's unwise is to accept assertion without evidence as
fact.
>
>The places which were written were real
Superman has New York City in it - that's real, but Superman isn't.
Real places, even real events, don't guarantee that everything in a
book is fact.
>and till this day those places
>still bore the same name.Some may have changed it,but the Biblical
>times of places and events remain historically accurate.
Of course Nazareth DIDN'T exist at the time the Bible claimed it did.
The Exodus DIDN'T happen. The Flood COULDN'T HAVE happened.
So just more CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that the Bible is nonsense.
>Do you accept my terms and conditions?
>
>....I have to summon an Angel to find a suitable limbs for your
>friend,and the courst of Heaven will then decide.The cost of doing
>this rescue operations take alot of time,resources and Angelic
>power.Perhaps I need to fast 40 days,and wait on God for the details
>to map it out for me.Then I need to tell the recipients to do all that
>is neccessary to receive the miracles,and he must accept to my
>methods,and conform to my demands,say ,he must repent of his sins,get
>right with God,confessed all his secret sins,and he also must be a
>witness for God after the miracle.
An all-powerful god can't just do it? Then your claims are false.
>
>"A women in Taiwan,she was a Buddhist.She wanted the Pastor to pray
>for her to be healed of cancers miraculoulsy.She got well but want to
>remain a buddhist.what's the use of healing a sick body but her soul
>still got(go) to Hell.?
Evidence that hell actually exists?
--
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as
false, and by rulers as useful."- Seneca the Younger (4? BC - 65 AD)
SkyEyes
> On Apr 5, 8:20 am, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > down and show us”.God came down,and God showed us,talk to man>
>
> > Still don't believe you, Frankie-stein.>
> > Hallucinations again.> > Red Cross.> > BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
> > EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
> > On Apr 3, 7:41 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Here's what you're shrinking from like a limp Peter at the Passion:
>
> > > 1. Demonstrate with objective evidence that this deity of yours
> > > exists
>
> > > ME: It was an accepted knowledge and practice, that witnesses can be
> > > formed as part of objective evidence, and whether or not Jurors
> > > believe on it, that is a separate matter.
>
>
> > It used to be the "accepted knowledge and practice" that the sun and
> > the stars revolved around the earth.
>
> @ As I have said before, Witnesses can formed part of the Objective
> Evidence.
And as I (and others) have pointed out, eye witnesses are THE LEAST
RELIABLE form of evidence.
>
> We mean “Objective Evidence” that is still accepted in our day.
>
> Eg...A prosecutor can call up an Objective witness to state his views
> and points, or rely in his professional expertise on a particular
> matter.
> This in essence is an Objective Evidence,
You don't know the meaning of "objective" and "subjective," do you,
Frankie-stein?
given by the fellow in
> questions.Again, whether in actuality were his views correct, the
> jurors still got to decide.
> You see, you made analogies to the “accepted knowledge and practice”on
> stars and sun doesn’t connect to the issue of what is “Objective
> Evidence”.
<Eye roll>
Frankie, stop posting here and go take some English and logic
courses. Your language skills and reasoning abilities just aren't up
to taking on this group.
>
> > It was wrong. So is this claim of yours.
>
> > > Information from the Bible reveals that Moses met God, and he
> > > testifies for our world that God is the creator of the universe. This
> > > God is dealing with Israel for a very long time, and credible witness
> > > wrote down histories, so that we can be informed.
>
> > Anybody can write anything in an old book. That they did does not
> > constitute evidence of a god.
>
> @ Anybody can write anything in any book. If they write about flying
> spagheti, it has evidence about Flying spaghetti. Whether or not you
> believe in it that is a different issue. But that is evidence.
Exactly. And I do *not* believe in anything written in ancient "holy"
books. That includes the bible.
>
> The Bible writers wrote about God’s dealings with man. There are
> plenty of evidences in it. Whether you believe it is true or not, you
> cannot negate that as not “Evidential”.
What are the "evidences" that what the bible writers wrote about
"God's dealings with man" is factual? There *aren't any*. In fact,
large portions of the bible have been shown to be false through
archaeological studies.
>
> The Bible authors gave evidence of the Creator God,
No. They only gave evidence that *they* believed in a creator god,
not that one actually exists.
> and gave evidences by writing His accounts.
There's no evidence that what they wrote down is the account of *any*
god. They wrote *myth*.
>Again,it is still evidence, and whether you
> accept it or not, you cannot call that’non-evidence”.
Yes, I can. And I do. What is written in the bible is no different
than what is written in other religions' holy books. It is not
evidence that any god exists.
>You can only say,
> “I do not accept the evidences as credible, or make sense to me”.
> How little is your grasp on English languages!
I grasp English far better than you do, Frankie-stein. And that goes
for logic as well.
>
> > > The time periods, places and people whom God was said to have
> > > interacted with human were all written down. It was detailed.
>
> > And yet there's no objective evidence that any of it ever happened.
> > Quelle surprise.
>
> @ I had already stated that there are a lot of Objective evidences,
...but again, you have failed to produce any.
> and it is just that you do not accept it as proof, and it doesn’t
> negate that as Objective Evidence.
Yes, it *does*. Look up "objective" on Dictionary.com. You'll find
that the adjective "objective" means:
" not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or
prejudice; based on facts; unbiased: an objective opinion."
" intent upon or dealing with things external to the mind rather
than with thoughts or feelings, as a person or a book."
Nothing in the bible is "objective," since it's all about the god the
Hebrews believed in. Q.E.D.
> Why you must as an atheist made a fool out of yourself, and I must
> school you on such simple things again?
We'll let the group decide who is *really* getting "schooled" here,
Frankie-stein.
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Mike Jones
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 12:19:15 +0000 (UTC), Mike Jones
> <lu...@dasteem.invalid> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
>>Responding to: Uncle Vic
>>
>>> Colanth <col...@pern.invalid> wrote in
>>> news:qh2np6p1n3b3pgd7n...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Religion = thought morphine.
>>>
>>> Yup. I like that.
>>
>>
>>Memephine?
>
> Nah, I can quit any time I want to.
You think so?
Wusong
> On Apr 6, 10:54 am, FRANKIE LEE <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=283293
>
> > When Wiki-leaks leak out secret information, information that exists,
> > many people involved in the scandals, or persons involved in the
> > secret affairs, they began to damn Assange, pursuing him with the zeal
> > as if chasing on Terrorists. The enemies of USA like the information
> > so do many Countries desiring to know what others are planning against
> > them, be it evil or good.
>
> > Every News agencies want to have that access of Information Assange
> > had, but at the same time they must pretend, and be a hypocrite, going
> > along with others to condemn him.
>
> > It is interesting to watch General Petrause, Hillary, Obama and
> > Liberal Medias,CNN condemning Terry Jones because they believe his
> > lone actions had the power to cause damage to US soldiers in
> > Afghanistan.However,the Liberal Medias establishments don't really
> > think so."If we don't publish such news, and not make it sensational,
> > how can the matters be multiplied to an enormous issues?"
>
> > Hamid Karzai took this golden opportunity to lecture USA
> > administrations, to show to the Islamic world that he too despise the
> > Americans, and those USA marines are dumb fools helping them for re-
> > construction and nation building.
>
> > He told US government what to do, that is to bring Terry Jones to
> > criminal punishment.Karzai made it the top News for all his Muslims
> > brotherhood to show anger at American policies, practicing free-speech
> > is not allowed anymore because our Shariah Law and our hatred against
> > USA must be the sentiments as of now.
> > Who actually inflame and adds fuel to the issues? Who bears the
> > apportion of blame greater?
>
> > US military and Pentagon did research about the Koran, and Harvard
> > University professor (Samuel Huntington) also did his research. The
> > Koran is incompatible to Western Civilisation, and is truly evil and
> > it inspires Terrorisms in the heart and minds of the Muslims.
>
> > All the honest reports were made known publicly, but was quickly
> > marginalized by many political leaders and Liberal Medias because they
> > believe in breaking the Commandments of God -which is bearing false
> > witnesses, be a hypocrite like the Pharisees of the Bible, be a liar
> > so that honest and decent folks will judge them as Crooks, but the
> > Deceived ones supposed it was a wise political moves.
>
> > General Petraeus killed many Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan, and
> > since the Medias did not sectionalize it, therefore the repercussion
> > is not felt in the Islamic countries. Do you think Muslim Terrorists
> > would be more anger and inflames because of the burning of the Koran
> > or American soldiers killing and maiming their Islamic comrades?
>
> > The Islamic countries and world are still slaughtering Christians.
> > They burnt the Bibles. They torch Churches after Churches. They showed
> > no respect to human dignity, women and Westernized Laws.
>
> > They practice intolerance and hatred.Everyday,Mullahs and their
> > Preachers encourage and inspire hatred among all Muslim's minds
> > through their schools,Madrasahs,Medias,and Mosques.
>
> > They demand that our world must respect,kow-tow and be intimidated by
> > them, and to their biddings. Their sensitiveness are in hyper- state,
> > and (Infidel) others' feelings should be despised.Their visions and
> > plan were Shariah Law for all,and they should reign supreme in our
> > world.
>
> > They openly declare that they want to oust the Western Democracies,
> > and replace it with their form of rules, and Jihad. These are all
> > known facts and datas.On the other hands, non-muslims who make a
> > simple research will find that the book of Koran is indeed wicked and
> > evil.
>
> > Must the Western World give up their cultures, their Freedom of speech
> > and Declaration of human rights? Europe and the Democrats in USA
> > believe that such trends should continue, and that Western world
> > should collapse because it was believed to be inferior to Islamic
> > Cultures. If you cave in to one unreasonable demand, two unreasonable
> > demands and accept the ideas of appeasement as a policy, who would be
> > surprised if the Camel dwell inside the Tent and you are outside in
> > the cold?
>
> > Muslims, whether they are moderate or sincere, extremists or
> > terrorists, they all agree that Muhammad their prophet had sex with a
> > nine year old little girl, married many women.
>
> > He was a rapist, a murderer crook, a thief and an uneducated person.
> > On top of that they know that Muhammed,the lone man who claimed to
> > have direct revelations from God,Verbatim,told Karthijah his spouse
> > that he was possessed by Demons.Muhammed claimed that he was demon
> > possessed. He fall into fits. He foamed.However,Karthijah,who received
> > no revelation from God was superior to Muhammed,and she told him that
> > it was from God, and those'demons'were "angels".
>
> > His wife was better and know much better than Muhammad's Muhammad
> > listen to his wife, then changed his story.
>
> > Muhammed then became an Infallible human being according to the
> > Muslim,greater than the Lord Jesus who alone is infallible in this
> > world.Interestingly,the Koran reveals that Jesus is divine,and Muslims
> > believe the Koran.Was divinity ascribe to Muhammed?No.
>
> > Obviously Muhammed was never an infallible human being nor is a divine
> > person, therefore his new claims that he had received revelation from
> > Gabriel Angel, and Koran Verbatim, word of God to him, CANNOT HOLD
> > WATER. Gabriel Angel met Mary, told her that she would be pregnant
> > with a child, whose name was Jesus, the Son of the Highest.
>
> > Since these accounts of Jesus was so great then, clearly Muhammad
> > wanted come credibility by making ridiculous claims of meeting with
> > Gabriel.
>
> > Unfortunately,his concoctions of tales lack common sense-his own birth
> > was ordinary.1.5 billions Muslims are clearly being conned, and since
> > it was known that their deceits can never hold waters, therefore they
> > should use force, intimidations and death punishments to Muslims who
> > dare to apostate.
> > Therefore no criticisms or burning of Koran because in order to hide
> > deceits, there is no better way to do it, but the strategies to use
> > evil and underhand methods became necessary to perpetuate the Religion
> > of Nonsense.
>
> > On the other hand, the use of Intimiation,Fear and Threats became part
> > and parcel of their Faith.So,it is only the Brave would dare to
> > apostate, and the Dumb and weaker ones, remain.
>
> > Therefore the events and deeds of the Islamic world only allow those
> > who have eyes to see, to come out.
>
> > The Cowards should remain.
> > No wonder Jesus says,"All Cowards,Liars,False
> > witnesses,Murderers,Thieves,Fornicators,Adulterers--shall have their
> > part in the Burning Lake of Fires for all eternity in full
> > consciousness."Muhammad met all the conditions above.
>
> > If any of the above I had written is untrue, anyone can challenge it
> > and verify it.
>
> I think all Christians are embarrassed by this freakie guy.
If that were the case, why haven't they come right out and say so,
instead of turning a blind eye to the blithering of that mentally-
handicapped false preacher?
Wusong
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 21:14:39 -0700 (PDT), Frankie Lee
>
BINGO!
On the 16th of March, 2011, when I asked why God had allowed such
catastrophes to befall upon the people of Japan, Frankie Lee had the
audacity to say that God is not almighty, because "the Bible says that
the devils is in control now because our ancestors sold it to him":
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/5a1bccae898f893a?hl=en
On the 17th of March, 2011, when asked to show where the passage "the
Bible says that the devils is in control now because our ancestors
sold it to him" is found in the Bible, he wrote:
"Reply: 2 corinthian 4;4.
How did Satan became the god of this world,if our ancestor not sold it
to him?Adam was to reign over this world,and earth since the creation
morning. What has been a common knowledge in Christendom and yet I
have to show it to you.This is terrible for someone so ignorant like
you,and even dare to ask for quotation of the verses":
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/84d4a4377c597706?hl=en
4 minutes later on the same day, the 17th of March, 2011, he added:
"It was Jesus who said,"I go to prepare a mansion for you",and I cling
on that and believe in Him.How can that be naive,where I can produce
billions of witnesses since time memorial?
Why do you deem that as naive?Or rather are you not gullible to the
core to have made that silly statements?
Honestly,I feel you are too gullible,not knowing your destiny,and not
understanding issues about eternity,and life after death.You don't
occur to me as someone intelligent".
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/4bf3e4678ef435cd?hl=en
2 corinthian 4;4 did not say ""The Bible says that the devils is in
control now because our ancestors sold it to him", the way he claimed.
It says, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them
which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
who is the image of God, should shine unto them".
His infantile comprehension of the Bible and his bad English, coupled
with his personal ignorance, stupidity, and superstition, have made
him into a down-right idiot.
Bryson
English is obviously not the first language of some who post in these
public Usenet groups, but the majority manage to use what little
English they know to convey their opinions and discuss the various
issues. Frankie Lee is of Chinese origin and lives in Singapore. He
has not shown any knowledge of Chinese, because he would otherwise
have posted in Chinese-language groups in Chinese. He hasn't. It is
highly unlikely that he would study and be able to write in Malay,
because he is such a bigot that he would consider Malay the language
suitable only for his servants, so English *is* his first language.
Talking about his being a bigot, here is a man who looks down on his
own ethnic group and openly worships White Americans - a down-right
"house nigger", 汉奸 in Chinese, I believe. Why then, does he write
English so badly in these public Usenet groups? The answer must be
that he never went beyond Middle School, if at all. He has the
mentality of a pre-teen who thinks that the Universe must revolve
around him, and that whatever he says is the empirical truth, because
he thinks he represents Jesus. "Colanth" wrote so aptly, "Just as
morphine clogs up certain receptors in nerve cells, religion clogs up
certain receptors in the thinking parts of the brain. Religion =
thought morphine":
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/f299c897aa5867f8
Frankie Lee has been blinded by his superstition, and is thus unable
to reason logically. The only thing one can do is to expose him
continuously.
John Baker
<wus...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>On 4??5??, ????9??12??, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 20:12:00 -0700 (PDT), Wusong
>> >Why Lee Ah Kwee ? Is Jesus lost? Haven't you found him yet?
>>
>> Look behind the sofa cushions.
>
>
>Did, nope, ain't there. Is Lee Ah Kwee looking as well?
I think I saw him at the Quickie Mart last night. He was with some big
guy wearing a white fringed suit and sunglasses.
Father Haskell
> On 4月4日, 下午7时24分, Frankie Lee <leeahk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Seek and ye shall find...Jesus.
>
> Why Lee Ah Kwee ? Is Jesus lost? Haven't you found him yet?
Not where *I* dumped the body.
Wusong
LOL! I'm pretty sure that had Frankie Lee not been so obnoxiously
ignorant and abusive in his posts, we would not have been so
blasphemous towards his faith.
Alex
coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: 4:6 And he shall
turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the
children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a
curse.
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of
the most High.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said,
Ye are gods?
1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that
the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
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http://kewkahfatt.blogspot.com/index.html
Colanth
wrote:
>Malachi 4:5
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such an annoying thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?
The Bible isn't evidence that what's in the Bible is true.
--
"I don't believe in an afterlife, so I don't have to spend my whole
life fearing hell, or fearing heaven even more. For whatever the
tortures of hell, I think the boredom of heaven would be even worse."
- Isaac Asimov
Alex
We go back direct to God after Sealing the Mark on our forehead.
Top posting is convenient to me.
Holy Bible - New Testament (Gospel)
Matthew 24
1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his
disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I
say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another,
that shall not be thrown down. [ His forecast was correct as the
Romans destroyed the temple in AD 70.]
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto
him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what
shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man
deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall
deceive many. [Many false prophets will arise to say they are Jesus.]
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not
troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not
yet. [Wars and rumour of wars are now every where.]
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against
kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes,
in divers places. [These have to happen. They are included in the 7
plagues of punishment.]
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. [Before the savior is
make known.]
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill
you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. [Here it
is misleading as the disciples were all dead long time ago. So how can
they be prosecuted now ? This might refer to me making known the TRUTH
of the Holy Bible, that most people will hate me for doing so.]
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another,
and shall hate one another. [People will turn around to go against one
another as if they have gone mad.]
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
[Many will claim they are the saviors.]
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax
cold. [People will turn cold towards each other. There will be no
peace every where.]
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
[Those who remain pure in heart to the end shall be saved.]
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the
world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
[The gospel of the Kingdom of God (The TRUTH) shall be preached to the
whole world as a witness to all nations, then shall the end (DOOM)
come.]
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso
readeth, let him understand:) [Modern Bible calls it Awful Horrow for
abomination of desolation. The bracket for 'whoso read, let him
understand' is to tell you the important message is in this verse.
Awful Horror is the Mark on our forehead, stand in the holy place,
that is our forehead or temple. Refer to Daniel's verses on this. The
one revealing this is me. Therefore people will hate me for doing
this. God will make them eyes vieled, ears cotton budded, so they
cannot see and hear properly. When I reveal the TRUTH, they will say I
am mad.]
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: [So
those in the West Bank or Judea should flee to the mountains. for
desasters will strike there. So you Israelis and Palestinians, you
better flee from West Bank especially Jerusalem.]
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing
out of his house: [Those on high ground should not go to the low
ground.]
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his
clothes. [Those who are working in the fields, when disasters strike,
don't go back to your homes to collect your belongings.]
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give
suck in those days! [Pity those young and sick people when the
disasters strike.]
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on
the sabbath day: [Hoping the DOOM Day will not fall in winter or
Saturday.]
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the
beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. [The
disasters will be so great that have never happened before since the
biginning of the world till then.]
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh
be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
[Those day shall be shortened for the elect's sake. That is for my
sake, there will be some mercy for some people.]
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or
there; believe it not. [If people tell you Jesus is here or there,
don't believe them because Jesus is your Spiritual Soul inside you at
the Mark on our forehead at the nose bridge.]
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and
shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were
possible, they shall deceive the very elect. [Some people are able to
perform great magic. Even I might be overwhemed with their
performances.]
25 Behold, I have told you before. {Bewarned !]
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the
desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it
not. [Believe not what others say where Jesus is.]
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even
unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [I am
from the East, Singapore, a small island beneath the Malayan
Peninsular. So my name will spread to the West like lightning strike.]
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be
gathered together. [This is to show you the carcase is the Mark on our
forehead. The eagle resembles our eye-brows.]
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be
darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall
fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: [When
these foundations of heaven and earth are shaken, the Jews will be
destroyed.]
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and
then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the
Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
[Everyone can gaze at the nose-bridge using nose-tip as guide. Cloud
of heaven and glory are to mislead people reading the Bible to think
otherwise.]
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet,
and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one
end of heaven to the other. [All elect will appear or awaken. Those
around me like my kins are elect. You can say my wife, children,
brothers and sisters plus nephews and nieces are re-incarnations of
past prophets and saints.]
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet
tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it
is near, even at the doors.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all
these things be fulfilled. [The words are misleading. The generation
of Jesus were past.]
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass
away. [When heaven and earth pass away, then it is VOID. Words are
void. You say it, you cannot see the words or touch it, but it is
there forever.]
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of
heaven, but my Father only. [Only the Creator knows the Day of DOOM.]
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the
Son of man be. [So I am playing the part of Noah. I reveal the TRUTH,
but people will not listen or believe.]
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating
and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah
entered into the ark, [People will keep enjoy life as if nothing will
happen to them. Then the disasters strike.]
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so
shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [So my preaching of the
TRUTH is the same job as Noah before the disasters.]
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the
other left. [Our body has 2 things. One is the physical body, the
other is the Spiritual Soul. Spiritual Soul will be saved but the
physical body returns to the earth.]
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken,
and the other left. [Same as verse 40.]
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in
what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not
have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not
the Son of man cometh. [Already revealed, but people do not believe
that their Spiritual Soul is Jesus Christ.]
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made
ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall
find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his
goods. [If you do good, you will be rewarded on that day.]
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord
delayeth his coming; [If you think otherwise and keep doing evils,
thinking the Day will not come,]
49 And shall begin to smite his fellow servants, and to eat and
drink with the drunken; [ill treat others and keep making merry with
drinks, food and sex,]
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not
for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, [the Day shall come
when you are unaware,]
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the
hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. [and you
will be killed, your Spiritual Soul will reincarnate into another baby
to receive the SEAL on the Mark on the forehead.]
On Apr 9, 12:03 am, Colanth <cola...@pern.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:24:55 -0700 (PDT), Alex <alex_...@yahoo.com>
Dakota
> There is no heaven to go back.
> We go back direct to God after Sealing the Mark on our forehead.
>
> Top posting is convenient to me.
>
> Holy Bible - New Testament (Gospel)
> Matthew 24
>
> 1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his
> disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
>
> 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I
> say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another,
> that shall not be thrown down. [ His forecast was correct as the
> Romans destroyed the temple in AD 70.]
>
event they predict.
>
> 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto
> him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what
> shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
>
> 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man
> deceive you.
>
> 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall
> deceive many. [Many false prophets will arise to say they are Jesus.]
>
> 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not
> troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not
> yet. [Wars and rumour of wars are now every where.]
>
>
> 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against
> kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes,
> in divers places. [These have to happen. They are included in the 7
> plagues of punishment.]
>
occurring throughout recorded history?
>
> 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. [Before the savior is
> make known.]
>
> 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill
> you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. [Here it
> is misleading as the disciples were all dead long time ago. So how can
> they be prosecuted now ? This might refer to me making known the TRUTH
> of the Holy Bible, that most people will hate me for doing so.]
>
interpretation might say that the statement is simply false.
>
> 25 Behold, I have told you before. {Bewarned !]
>
> 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the
> desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it
> not. [Believe not what others say where Jesus is.]
>
> 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even
> unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [I am
> from the East, Singapore, a small island beneath the Malayan
> Peninsular. So my name will spread to the West like lightning strike.]
>
> 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be
> gathered together. [This is to show you the carcase is the Mark on our
> forehead. The eagle resembles our eye-brows.]
>
> 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be
> darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall
> fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: [When
> these foundations of heaven and earth are shaken, the Jews will be
> destroyed.]
>
> 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and
> then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the
> Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
> [Everyone can gaze at the nose-bridge using nose-tip as guide. Cloud
> of heaven and glory are to mislead people reading the Bible to think
> otherwise.]
>
in a storybook.
>
> 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet,
> and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one
> end of heaven to the other. [All elect will appear or awaken. Those
> around me like my kins are elect. You can say my wife, children,
> brothers and sisters plus nephews and nieces are re-incarnations of
> past prophets and saints.]
>
> 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet
> tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
>
> 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it
> is near, even at the doors.
>
> 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all
> these things be fulfilled. [The words are misleading. The generation
> of Jesus were past.]
>
The words were written after the generation of Jesus was already dead.
Colanth
wrote:
>There is no heaven to go back.
>We go back direct to God after Sealing the Mark on our forehead.
>Holy Bible - New Testament (Gospel)
>Matthew 24
Quoting the Bible STILL isn't evidence that what's in the Bible is
true. The more you post crap, the less believable it becomes.
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All answers questioned here.
Frankie Lee
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U: And as I (and others) have pointed out, eye witnesses are THE
LEAST
RELIABLE form of evidence.
Me; In a court of Law,two eye-witnesses can convict allege Murderer to
the gallows!
U:You don't know the meaning of "objective" and "subjective," do you,
Frankie-stein?
Me: Most probably you became too confused as to what"is objective and
subjective".Is this a sign of your defeat by using the word,"Frankie-
stein?"
U: Frankie, stop posting here and go take some English and logic
courses. Your language skills and reasoning abilities just aren't up
to taking on this group.
Me: The name of Jesus is "Logos",where we have the understanding of
what is"reasons and Logic".The very root Word of God signify Logics
and Reasons.
In the beginning was the Word,logos,the Logic...as written by John.In
order for you to learn Logic,and English,may I suggest you study the
Bible?