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John Manning

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:13:06 AM11/12/09
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Skinny Cartman

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:17:58 AM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 10:13 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:

Are you ready to become a permanent sockpuppet on usenet?

last_per...@yahoo.com

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:26:22 AM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 11:13 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> Watch:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjNj20WuYh4

Obama lovers seem to believe Palin will beat him in 2012.

The much more likely cause of the end:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/coventry/content/images/2005/05/12/eurovision_flag_isreal_470x380.jpg

Joe Bruno

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:28:24 AM11/12/09
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> http://www.bbc.co.uk/coventry/content/images/2005/05/12/eurovision_fl...

You use the wrong nym. You're an infection, not a permutation.

last_per...@yahoo.com

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:29:52 AM11/12/09
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ZioNazi projection at its best, Bluto.

pba...@worldonline.nl

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:53:53 AM11/12/09
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On 12 nov, 17:13, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
> Watch:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjNj20WuYh4

I always fear the end had come when I teared of the last page of my
calender.
But it never came. . .

Love,

Peter van Velzen

November 2009
Amstelveen
The Netherlands

Logan Sacket

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Nov 12, 2009, 9:35:15 PM11/12/09
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:13:06 -0200, John Manning
<jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote:

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>
>Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjNj20WuYh4


Y2K all over again.

The Master

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Nov 12, 2009, 9:40:25 PM11/12/09
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Logan Sacket wrote:

> Y2K all over again.

People will pay Cobol programmers a shit load of money again? Damn, those
guys are really cleaning up after being unemployed for 40 years.

Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian

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Nov 12, 2009, 10:36:08 PM11/12/09
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last_per...@yahoo.com wrote in
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So are you an Illuminati kook, too?

--
Doc Smartass | BAAWA Knight of Troll Medication | aa # 1939

Book reviews: http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/

Kook Clearinghouse! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/

Hey, GOPpers: Grab a Mop!

last_per...@yahoo.com

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:32:35 AM11/13/09
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On Nov 12, 10:36 pm, "Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian"
<gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:

> last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote innews:f8188844-5d1a-4165...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
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> > On Nov 12, 11:28 am, Joe Bruno <joebr...@usa.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 12, 8:26 am, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> >> > On Nov 12, 11:13 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
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> >> > > Watch:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjNj20WuYh4
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> >> > Obama lovers seem to believe Palin will beat him in 2012.
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> >> > The much more likely cause of the end:
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> >> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/coventry/content/images/2005/05/12/eurovision_fl
> >> >...
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> >> You use the wrong nym. You're an infection, not a permutation.
>
> > ZioNazi projection at its best, Bluto.
>
> So are you an Illuminati kook, too?

You're hallucinating, Dr. PoundMyAss.
Rather common with the synapse deficient

Born ZioNazi, PMA, or just a natural
attraction to 'G-d's Chosen' like so many
atheist tards?

PoundMyAss is a bad joke even to his
fellow tards.

>Doc Smartass | BAAWA Knight of Troll Medication | aa # 1939

Where's the little clubhouse pis-ant? Last stall of WalMart men's
room?

Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian

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Nov 14, 2009, 1:22:54 AM11/14/09
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last_per...@yahoo.com wrote in
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> On Nov 12, 10:36�pm, "Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian"
> <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
>> last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote

>> innews:f8188844-5d1a-4165-9470-30a6ece49
> 4...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:


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>> > On Nov 12, 11:28�am, Joe Bruno <joebr...@usa.com> wrote:
>> >> On Nov 12, 8:26�am, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
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>> >> > On Nov 12, 11:13�am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
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>> >> > > Watch:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjNj20WuYh4
>>
>> >> > Obama lovers seem to believe Palin will beat him in 2012.
>>
>> >> > The much more likely cause of the end:
>>
>> >> >http://www.bbc.co.uk/coventry/content/images/2005/05/12/eurovision

>> >> >_fl ...


>>
>> >> You use the wrong nym. You're an infection, not a permutation.
>>
>> > ZioNazi projection at its best, Bluto.
>>
>> So are you an Illuminati kook, too?
>

> Y<THWACK>

Your stupid's so heavy it makes my radio skip.

--

Doc Smartass | BAAWA Knight of Troll Medication | aa # 1939

Book reviews: http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/

Logan Sacket

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:27:45 PM11/24/09
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Monbiot issues an unprecedented apology � calls for Jones resignation
23

11

From Andrew Bolt, my mate down under at the Herald Sun, comes this
surprise. I�ll have to say, it is to George Monbiot�s credit to do
this. I embrace his first statement, because it succinctly sums up the
situation:


It�s no use pretending that this isn�t a major blow. The emails
extracted by a hacker from the climatic research unit at the
University of East Anglia could scarcely be more damaging(1). I am now
convinced that they are genuine, and I�m dismayed and deeply shaken by
them.

- George Monbiot on his personal blog

http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2009/11/23/the-knights-carbonic/

George seems to realize that, �it�s worse than we thought�.

From Andrew Bolt:

Even George Monbiot, one of the fiercest media propagandists of the
warming faith, admits he should have been more sceptical and says the
science now needs to be rechecked:
It�s no use pretending that this isn�t a major blow. The emails
extracted by a hacker from the climatic research unit at the
University of East Anglia could scarcely be more damaging. I am now
convinced that they are genuine, and I�m dismayed and deeply shaken by
them.

Yes, the messages were obtained illegally. Yes, all of us say things
in emails that would be excruciating if made public. Yes, some of the
comments have been taken out of context. But there are some messages
that require no spin to make them look bad. There appears to be
evidence here of attempts to prevent scientific data from being
released, and even to destroy material that was subject to a freedom
of information request.
Worse still, some of the emails suggest efforts to prevent the
publication of work by climate sceptics, or to keep it out of a report
by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. I believe that the
head of the unit, Phil Jones, should now resign. Some of the data
discussed in the emails should be re-analysed.

Sure, Monbiot claims the fudging of what he extremely optimistically
puts as just �three or four� scientists doesn�t knock over the whole
global warming edifice, yet�

If even Monbiot, an extremist, can say that much, why cannot the
Liberals say far more? And will now the legion of warmist journalists
in our own media dare say as Monbiot has so belatedly:

I apologise. I was too trusting of some of those who provided the
evidence I championed. I would have been a better journalist if I had
investigated their claims more closely.

Scepticism is the essential disposition of our craft, yet too many
journalists have abandoned it. Remember: the opposite of sceptical is
gullible.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/23/monbiot-issues-an-unprecedented-apology/#more-13129%29

Day Brown

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Nov 27, 2009, 1:35:38 AM11/27/09
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Logan Sacket wrote:
> Scepticism is the essential disposition of our craft, yet too many
> journalists have abandoned it. Remember: the opposite of sceptical is
> gullible.
Man made may be dubious, but warming is not. The Greenland Ice core
shows warming has been going on for over 10,000 years, and both the
global reports I've seen, such as shrinking glaciers, and my own garden,
supports warming.

:ook at the date. The seed catalogs all say my first frost should have
been Oct 15, over 5 weeks ago. I harvested all my potatoes weeks ago,
but I missed on, and its still growing out there. If you know
statistics, you can see this is either a million to one shot, or my
local climate is warmer.

And since I was born on a farm in 1939, I've always paid attention, and
see how it has been warming. My ancestors have been farmers for 10,000
years, and we can feel the climate change in our bones. Those who could
not, had crop failures, so we buried them, and no doubt will bury more
who do not get it as the climate keeps on warming.

John Manning

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Nov 27, 2009, 7:54:06 AM11/27/09
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The Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Washington Post, National
Public Radio, Washington Times, and other news outlets are participating
in this Swiftboat-style smear campaign, following the lead of actual
Swiftboat smearer and former Limbaugh and Inhofe employee Marc Morano �
instead of bothering to understand what the scientists were actually
talking about in the hacked emails.

However, as climate scientist Richard Somerville explained yesterday,
�The ice has no agenda.� Arctic sea ice is at historically low levels,
Australia is on fire, the northern United Kingdom is underwater, the
world�s glaciers are disappearing, and half of the United States has
been declared an agricultural disaster area. And it�s the the hottest
decade in recorded history.

By asking whether �we have to stop burning fossil fuel tomorrow,� Dubner
� a top blogger for the New York Times � gets to the heart of why this
bizarre theory of a cabal of all-powerful climatologists is getting
support from conservative media and politicians. The incontrovertible
science � based not on manipulated data but on decades of basic research
� is that the burning of fossil fuels is drastically reshaping our
planet�s climate and acidifying the oceans. And the only known way to
restore conditions to those safe for human civilization is to
dramatically reduce the use of fossil fuels. Doing so, however, would
affect the incredible profits and power of the oil and coal industries,
and of their ideological allies.

In fact, if we stop treating our atmosphere like a sewer, the climate
system will heal itself over time, potentially more rapidly than we
expect. That our past inaction will continue to bear consequences into
the future is a reason to act with greater swiftness, not to dither
further. The longer we delay, the more difficult and expensive the
challenge to reduce pollution while adapting to a hostile world becomes.

Multiple links in highlighted text here:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/25/superfreaks-climategate/


SwordoZ

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Nov 27, 2009, 2:38:15 PM11/27/09
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"John Manning" <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
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> Day Brown wrote:
>> Logan Sacket wrote:
>>> Scepticism is the essential disposition of our craft, yet too many
>>> journalists have abandoned it. Remember: the opposite of sceptical is
>>> gullible.
>> Man made may be dubious, but warming is not. The Greenland Ice core shows
>> warming has been going on for over 10,000 years, and both the global
>> reports I've seen, such as shrinking glaciers, and my own garden,
>> supports warming.
>> :ook at the date. The seed catalogs all say my first frost should have
>> been Oct 15, over 5 weeks ago. I harvested all my potatoes weeks ago, but
>> I missed on, and its still growing out there. If you know statistics, you
>> can see this is either a million to one shot, or my local climate is
>> warmer.
>> And since I was born on a farm in 1939, I've always paid attention, and
>> see how it has been warming. My ancestors have been farmers for 10,000
>> years, and we can feel the climate change in our bones. Those who could
>> not, had crop failures, so we buried them, and no doubt will bury more
>> who do not get it as the climate keeps on warming.


> The Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Washington Post, National Public
> Radio, Washington Times, and other news outlets are participating in this
> Swiftboat-style smear campaign, following the lead of actual Swiftboat

> smearer and former Limbaugh and Inhofe employee Marc Morano � instead of

> bothering to understand what the scientists were actually talking about in
> the hacked emails.

SOZ:
Hey - johnny peasant. Even the "liberal" media sees the hypoicrisy.


> However, as climate scientist Richard Somerville explained yesterday, �The
> ice has no agenda.� Arctic sea ice is at historically low levels,
> Australia is on fire, the northern United Kingdom is underwater, the world�s

> glaciers are disappearing, and half of the United States has been declared

> an agricultural disaster area. And it�s the the hottest decade in recorded
> history.

SoZ:

Hey - johnny peasant. They've been debunked. Get used to it.

> By asking whether �we have to stop burning fossil fuel tomorrow,� Dubner �
> a top blogger for the New York Times � gets to the heart of why this

> bizarre theory of a cabal of all-powerful climatologists is getting
> support from conservative media and politicians. The incontrovertible

> science � based not on manipulated data but on decades of basic research �
> is that the burning of fossil fuels is drastically reshaping our planet�s

> climate and acidifying the oceans. And the only known way to restore
> conditions to those safe for human civilization is to dramatically reduce
> the use of fossil fuels. Doing so, however, would affect the incredible
> profits and power of the oil and coal industries, and of their ideological
> allies.

SoZ:
Hey - johnny peasant. Was wondering when you would get to incredible
profits. Were you cloned from Howdy Doody?

> In fact, if we stop treating our atmosphere like a sewer, the climate
> system will heal itself over time, potentially more rapidly than we
> expect. That our past inaction will continue to bear consequences into the
> future is a reason to act with greater swiftness, not to dither further.
> The longer we delay, the more difficult and expensive the challenge to
> reduce pollution while adapting to a hostile world becomes.

SoZ:
You looking at too many movies johnny peasant.


Day Brown

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Nov 27, 2009, 6:50:40 PM11/27/09
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SwordoZ wrote:
> You looking at too many movies johnny peasant.
Your use of ad hominem damages your credibility. I'm not at all
interested in your wit. Which frankly looks pretty lame.

But nevertheless, restoring the climate to what ever they think it once
was, is not an option. Whether cutting down on fossil fuel combustion
would help or not, any realistic look at the global economy shows that
the only way that will happen is with global financial panic.

which will be ugly as well. And either way, yes American agribusiness
has severe problems, and the reduced output will result in the
starvation of millions, maybe billions.

While output in Australia and the US may be down, that in Canada and
Siberia is up, and if properly managed, would more than make up for the
losses. The warmer Arctic is producing moisture laden air moving south
over central Asia turning desert to grassland, and lengthening the
growing season. Mongolian livestock production is way up.

Debates here have no effect on policy making. All you can do is benefit
personally by picking up on what is really going on, and that vision can
be very profitable. Mite even save your life and the lives of those you
care about.

If the Alarmists are right, they should also see how the power elite
will not listen to them this time either, and nobody gives a fuck what
we here think. All they can do is figure out what is coming down whether
we like it or not, and choose to live in a community that is adaptable
to those changes. Left or Right, they can put their money where their
mouth is.

SwordoZ

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Nov 27, 2009, 8:46:14 PM11/27/09
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"Day Brown" <dayh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4b106370$0$8734$ec3e...@news.usenetmonster.com...

> SwordoZ wrote:
>> You looking at too many movies johnny peasant.

> Your use of ad hominem damages your credibility.

SoZ
Did you ever chide johnny peasant about the same?


I'm not at all
> interested in your wit. Which frankly looks pretty lame.

SoZ
It gets the point across.

> But nevertheless, restoring the climate to what ever they think it once
> was, is not an option. Whether cutting down on fossil fuel combustion
> would help or not, any realistic look at the global economy shows that the
> only way that will happen is with global financial panic.> which will be
> ugly as well.

SoZ
That's just around corner.

And either way, yes American agribusiness
> has severe problems, and the reduced output will result in the starvation
> of millions, maybe billions.

SoZ
What kind of problems?


> While output in Australia and the US may be down, that in Canada and
> Siberia is up, and if properly managed, would more than make up for the
> losses. The warmer Arctic is producing moisture laden air moving south
> over central Asia turning desert to grassland, and lengthening the growing
> season. Mongolian livestock production is way up.

SoZ
And global warming is the culprit?


> Debates here have no effect on policy making. All you can do is benefit
> personally by picking up on what is really going on,
and that vision can
> be very profitable.

SoZ
Like Al Gore?


Mite even save your life and the lives of those you
> care about.

SoZ
I recall an attempt at hysteria back in the '60's by a climate warming
"guru" who predicted that Manhattan supposedly would be under "x" number of
feet of water in the mid '80's due to global warming. Do remember that joke?


> If the Alarmists are right, they should also see how the power elite will
> not listen to them this time either, and nobody gives a fuck what we here
> think.

SoZ
It's not the climate but alarmists "fudging the math" concerning the
climate.


All they can do is figure out what is coming down whether
> we like it or not, and choose to live in a community that is adaptable to
> those changes.
Left or Right, they can put their money where their
> mouth is

SoZ
It looks like the alarmists have you alarmed based on bad math.


SoZ

CV

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Nov 28, 2009, 8:26:55 AM11/28/09
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On Nov 27, 11:46 pm, "SwordoZ" <mar...@enter.net> wrote:
> "Day Brown" <dayhbr...@gmail.com> wrote in message


From NASA

GISS Surface Temperature Analysis: http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/


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