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**THE DEMONIAC QUALITIES**

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Jahnu dasa

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Jul 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/16/96
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Here is something I want to share with you all. I thought it might
help you understand yourselves a little better.

So this is Sri Krishna speaking to His friend and devotee, Arjuna, the
son of Pritha, or Kunti. It was spoken in Sanskrit 5000 years ago, but
for your benefit I have given the English translation as it is given
by Srila Prabhupada. It is from the 16th chapter og the Bhagavad Gita.

"O son of Pritha, in this world there are two kinds of created beings.
One is called divine and the other demoniac. I have already explained
to you at length the divine qualities. Now hear from Me of the
demoniac.

Those who are demoniac do not know what is to be done and what is not
to be done. Neither cleanliness nor proper behavior nor truth is found
in them.

They say that this world is unreal, with no foundation, no God in
control. They say it is produced of sex desire and has no other cause
than lust.

Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves
and who have no intelligence, engage in unbeneficial, horrible works
meant to destroy the world.

Taking shelter of insatiable lust and absorbed in the conceit of pride
and false prestige, the demoniac, thus illusioned, are always sworn to
unclean work, attracted as they are by the impermanent.

They believe that to gratify the senses is the prime necessity of
human civilization. Thus until the end of life their anxiety is
immeasurable. Bound by a network of hundreds of thousands of desires
and absorbed in lust and anger, they secure money by illegal means for
sense gratification.

The demoniac person thinks: "So much wealth do I have today, and I
will gain more according to my schemes. So much is mine now, and it
will increase in the future, more and more. He is my enemy, and I have
killed him, and my other enemies will also be killed. I am the lord of
everything. I am the enjoyer. I am perfect, powerful and happy. I am
the richest man, surrounded by aristocratic relatives. There is none
so powerful and happy as I am. I shall perform sacrifices, I shal give
some charity, and thus I shall rejoice." In this way such persons are
deluded by ignorance.

Thus perplexed by various anxieties and bound by a network of
illusions, they become too strongly attached to sense enjoyment and
fall down into hell.

Self-complacent and always impudent, deluded by wealth and false
prestige, they sometimes proudly perform sacrifices in name only,
without following any rules or regulations.

Bewildered by false ego, strength, pride, lust and anger, the demons
become envious of Me, who is situated in their own bodies and in the
bodies of others, and blaspheme against the real religion.

Those who are envious and mischievous, who are the lowest among men, I
perpetually cast down into the ocean of material existence, into
various demoniac species of life.

Attaining repeated birth amongst the species of demoniac life, O son
of Kunti, such persons can never approach Me. Gradually they sink down
to the most abominable type of existence.

There are three gates leading to this hell - lust, anger and greed.
Every sane man should give these up, for they lead to the degradation
of the soul.

The man who has escaped these three gates of hell, O son of Kunti,
perform acts conducive to self-realization, and thus gradually attains
the supreme destination.

He who disregards scriptual injunctions and acts according to his own
whims attains neither perfection, nor happiness, nor the supreme
destination.

One should therefore understand what is duty and what is not duty by
the regulations of the scriptures. Knowing such rules and regulations,
one should act so that he may gradually be elevated."

We should note here that Krishna doesn't speak in sectarian terms.

These qualities can be found in any person whether he calls himself
Hindu, Christian, Muslim, atheist, theist, democrat, republican or
whatever. So it is not the external designations in terms of one's
culture, religion, race or nation that determines the qualities of a
person, but the mentality that he has aquired by association with the
three modes of material nature.

While most of us can certainly recognize at least some of these bad
qualities in ourselves, we should also understand that these are not
inherent qualities of the person or the soul, and they can very easily
be overcome by the practice of the scientific process of bhakti-yoga
or Krishna consciousness.

-Jahnu

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Smedley

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
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ja...@wineasy.se (Jahnu dasa) wrote:
>Here is something I want to share with you all. I thought it might
>help you understand yourselves a little better.
>
>So this is Sri Krishna speaking to His friend and devotee, Arjuna, the
>son of Pritha, or Kunti. It was spoken in Sanskrit 5000 years ago, but
>for your benefit I have given the English translation as it is given
>by Srila Prabhupada. It is from the 16th chapter og the Bhagavad Gita.
>
>"O son of Pritha, in this world there are two kinds of created beings.
>One is called divine and the other demoniac. I have already explained
>to you at length the divine qualities. Now hear from Me of the
>demoniac.

This is interesting. I KNOW that you don't consider me to be "divine",
nor am I demoniac as definded by the Vedas. So, I must come to one
of the following conclusions:

a) I am not a created being
b) The Vedas are wrong
c) The Vedas were translated incorrectly
d) 2 or more of the above.

The Vedic description of the "demoniac" person follows:


>
>Those who are demoniac do not know what is to be done and what is not
>to be done. Neither cleanliness nor proper behavior nor truth is found
>in them.
>
>They say that this world is unreal,

I don't say this.

>with no foundation,

I don't say this.

>no God in control.

Ahhh...I say this.

>They say it is produced of sex desire and has no other cause
>than lust.

I don't say this. How can a world be produced of "sex desire"?

>Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves
>and who have no intelligence, engage in unbeneficial, horrible works
>meant to destroy the world.

I am a scientist and I do not create any thing for the purpose of
destroying anything (except ignorance). (note: When I say "ignorance"
I don't mean the Vedic version of the word "ignorance" which is basically
"ignorance of what is in the Vedas")

>Taking shelter of insatiable lust

Not me.

>and absorbed in the conceit of pride
>and false prestige, the demoniac, thus illusioned, are always sworn to
>unclean work, attracted as they are by the impermanent.

Not me.

>They believe that to gratify the senses is the prime necessity of
>human civilization.

I don't.

>Thus until the end of life their anxiety is
>immeasurable.

Anxiety is definately measureable. If it was unmeasureable, we wouldn't
be able to diagnose disorders such as Anxiety and phobias.

>Bound by a network of hundreds of thousands of desires
>and absorbed in lust and anger, they secure money by illegal means for
>sense gratification.

Again, I guess they are not talking about me. Unless being paid to
conduct research on human infant cognition is somehow "illegal."


>The demoniac person thinks: "So much wealth do I have today, and I

>will gain more according to my schemes..."

I will gain more money by remaining in acedemia? Don't make me laugh!
I could make 100x more working in a number of other fields.

>"So much is mine now, and it
>will increase in the future, more and more."

It ain't increasing anytime soon. And I don't even know for sure
if I will find a job once I leave...I guess I'm not demoniac.

> "He is my enemy, and I have
>killed him, and my other enemies will also be killed. "

Who is my enemy? Who is "he"? Is he god? God isn't my enemy
any more than the tooth fairy is.

> "I am the lord of everything."

I can't even get my modem to work connect at higher than 9600 baud!



>I am the enjoyer. I am perfect, powerful and happy.

Perfect? I would never make this claim. Happy, sometimes yes,
sometimes no.

>"I am
>the richest man, surrounded by aristocratic relatives. There is none
>so powerful and happy as I am. I shall perform sacrifices, I shal give
>some charity, and thus I shall rejoice."

Once again, this does not describe me at all.

>In this way such persons are
>deluded by ignorance.

Well, since I don't fall into this category, nor am I "divine",
which of the above options is it a, b, c, or all of the above?

Smed

Al Beckell

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
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ja...@wineasy.se (Jahnu dasa) wrote:

>Here is something I want to share with you all. I thought it might
>help you understand yourselves a little better.

If I wanted to hear from an asshole, I'd fart. What you call sharing,
we call unwanted and annoying evangelism of the insulting kind. We
understand ourselves far better than you or any braindead krishna. We
also know you for what you are; a lying zombie beggar parroting the
mental pollution of your manipulators.

Where are these "atheists" whom you claim to appreciate your vedic
message?

>So this is Sri Krishna speaking to His friend and devotee, Arjuna, the
>son of Pritha, or Kunti. It was spoken in Sanskrit 5000 years ago, but
>for your benefit I have given the English translation as it is given
>by Srila Prabhupada. It is from the 16th chapter og the Bhagavad Gita.

You claim to have been around alt.atheism for over a year and you
still have not been able to grasp the point; Quoting scriptures is not
acceptable evidence of a fucking thing in alt.atheism! Yet, here you
go again. Fuck right off krishna scumwad.

>snip scriptural bullshit

It's totally typical that you condemn materialism and materialists,
then you support yourself by begging from these same materialists.

I will ask again; do you have a productive job?

>We should note here that Krishna doesn't speak in sectarian terms.

Nobody here cares at all what terms you limpdick krishna fuckheads
use.

When are you going to answer B. Feltons question about lying?

When are you going to answer any questions without denigrating every
one that ask questions?

I think we ought to have a hunting season on krishnas, so we can use
the revenue to buy meat for orphans.
Al B


Stix

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Jul 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/17/96
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Jah-nu! clap clap clap, Jah-nu! clap clap clap,
(summoning up the demon again)

> Here is something I want to share with you all. I thought it might
> help you understand yourselves a little better.

Well you thought wrong Jahnu, like you always do.

> So this is Sri Krishna speaking to His friend and devotee, Arjuna, the
> son of Pritha, or Kunti. It was spoken in Sanskrit 5000 years ago, but
> for your benefit I have given the English translation as it is given
> by Srila Prabhupada. It is from the 16th chapter og the Bhagavad Gita.

Who gives a flying fuck *what* this blinded moron thinks or writes? Sri
Kwishna and his homosexual pillow-biting "friend" Arjuna were both sick
paedophiles. Only total losers take any of their Bhag of Gita's seriously.

> "O son of Pritha, in this world there are two kinds of created beings.
> One is called divine and the other demoniac. I have already explained
> to you at length the divine qualities. Now hear from Me of the demoniac.

Well, it falls on it's face straight away - how unexpected.
Two kinds of created beings? Wrong. No *created* beings, Jahnu. No god
Jahnu, no kwishna, Jahnu. Grow up, Janhu.

<snip blether>

> Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves
> and who have no intelligence, engage in unbeneficial, horrible works
> meant to destroy the world.

Barf barf barf. It's human-hating kwishna idiots who want to destroy the world
Jahnu. We atheists want idiots like you to either wake up or disappear. That will
make the world a much better, more progressive planet.

> They believe that to gratify the senses is the prime necessity of
> human civilization. Thus until the end of life their anxiety is
> immeasurable. Bound by a network of hundreds of thousands of desires
> and absorbed in lust and anger, they secure money by illegal means for
> sense gratification.

What a load of crap. This is from the philosophy you hold dear??
What shit. How any idiot can think it has any value, let alone cling to it as if it is
actually real is incomprehensible. Really Jahnu, you need to get some valium,
thorazine or prozac. You're a danger to yourself and others and should be
contained in a padded cell to keep you from hurting other people.

<snip drivel too bizarre to repeat>

> Bewildered by false ego, strength, pride, lust and anger, the demons
> become envious of Me, who is situated in their own bodies and in the
> bodies of others, and blaspheme against the real religion.

Does anyone else notice the sick double standards and kwishna's (or whoever
the deluded moron was who wrote this shit) superiority complex?
Envious of you?? Blaspheme against the *real* religion?? Yeah, I get it. Follow
the blatherings of this particular dickhead or else we're evil. Fuck right off.

> Those who are envious and mischievous, who are the lowest among men, I
> perpetually cast down into the ocean of material existence, into
> various demoniac species of life.

This crap absolutely *SPEWS* envy Jahnu. The sick, twisted pervert who wrote
the shit you've quoted needed maiming. I can't believe you actually fall for this
shit so badly as to hold it dear and puke it to others. You're really sick Jahnu.
All this idiot says is that if we don't accept his bullshit, point blank and without
question, then we become the demonic species he describes. What crap. Who
the fuck was he to talk? Why is he anything special? I can write a fairy-tale and
claim anyone who doesn't believe it and live it is evil, too, but so what?

> Attaining repeated birth amongst the species of demoniac life, O son
> of Kunti, such persons can never approach Me. Gradually they sink down
> to the most abominable type of existence.

Thank fuck. Who'd want to approach this egotistical, maniacal kwishna loser
except to beat his face in with a brick?

> <snip mindless blether>

> While most of us can certainly recognize at least some of these bad
> qualities in ourselves, we should also understand that these are not
> inherent qualities of the person or the soul, and they can very easily
> be overcome by the practice of the scientific process of bhakti-yoga
> or Krishna consciousness.

FUCK OFF WITH YOUR KWISHNA-UNCONSCIOUSNESS.
It's mindless babble and you're an idiot.

Stix
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
"At this time there shall be....rumours....of things going astray....and no-one
will really know...where lieth those things.....with a sort of raffia-work...
.base....that has an attachment..."
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~


Max Varazslo

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Jul 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/19/96
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"Srila" Prabhupada, eh? Are we talking about A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
Prabhupada, the man who watered down the Bhagavad-Gita more than any
other in all human history? Spare me his litanies and quote from a
reputable translation!


Lord Krishna (back by popular demand!)


Stix (st...@ozemail.com.au) wrote:
: Jah-nu! clap clap clap, Jah-nu! clap clap clap,

Jahnu dasa

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Jul 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/19/96
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On Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:04:47 GMT, sta...@cris.com (Al Beckell) wrote:

>If I wanted to hear from an asshole, I'd fart. What you call sharing,
>we call unwanted and annoying evangelism of the insulting kind. We
>understand ourselves far better than you or any braindead krishna. We
>also know you for what you are; a lying zombie beggar parroting the
>mental pollution of your manipulators.

Gee, you sound so intelligent. Can I also become intelligent like
that? How do you do it?

>Where are these "atheists" whom you claim to appreciate your vedic
>message?

>You claim to have been around alt.atheism for over a year and you


>still have not been able to grasp the point; Quoting scriptures is not
>acceptable evidence of a fucking thing in alt.atheism! Yet, here you
>go again. Fuck right off krishna scumwad.

I mean, how do you keep coming up with these brilliant points?


>It's totally typical that you condemn materialism and materialists,
>then you support yourself by begging from these same materialists.

Who is begging? I never begged. Well, I'll beg you you to please
reconsicer your position and not be so prejudiced. I think it's not so
nice. Also you won't be happy that way.

>I will ask again; do you have a productive job?

Yes, I have a very productive job. Do you? Tell me what do you
produce? How do you benefit the world?

>>We should note here that Krishna doesn't speak in sectarian terms.
>

>Nobody here cares at all what terms you limpdick krishna fuckheads
>use.

Well, for one, I care, so your statement is false.

>When are you going to answer B. Feltons question about lying?

I'm not lying. What's there to answer?

>When are you going to answer any questions without denigrating every
>one that ask questions?

What questions. Did you ask a question?

>I think we ought to have a hunting season on krishnas, so we can use
>the revenue to buy meat for orphans.

Yeah right, that would really benefit the orphans.

Respectfully yours


Jahnu dasa

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On Wed, 17 Jul 96 02:14:20 GMT, st...@ozemail.com.au (Stix) wrote:

>Jah-nu! clap clap clap, Jah-nu! clap clap clap,
>(summoning up the demon again)

>Well you thought wrong Jahnu, like you always do.

Why do you think I'm wrong? I don't think I'm wrong. I think I'm
right. How might that be?

>Who gives a flying fuck *what* this blinded moron thinks or writes? Sri
>Kwishna and his homosexual pillow-biting "friend" Arjuna were both sick
>paedophiles. Only total losers take any of their Bhag of Gita's seriously.

In fact, Stick, I know many people who give a flying huck. Like
Oppenheimer, Einstein, Kant, Hegel, Emerson, Thoreau, Jiva Goswami,
Srila Prabhupada etc.... the list goes on and on with people who are
far more intelligent and important to the world than you. So it would
seem that your point is moot.

>Well, it falls on it's face straight away - how unexpected.
>Two kinds of created beings? Wrong. No *created* beings, Jahnu. No god
>Jahnu, no kwishna, Jahnu. Grow up, Janhu.

Are you ever going to argue for your position, Stick?
Or maybe it's this guy again, who broke into your account?

>Barf barf barf. It's human-hating kwishna idiots who want to destroy the world
>Jahnu. We atheists want idiots like you to either wake up or disappear. That will
>make the world a much better, more progressive planet.

Yes, our present civilization is really a progressive one. We are
really taking nicely care of the planet, right?

You haven't noticed what we do to nature and her inhabitants? I mean,
what do you do over there in the desert? Did you ever go outside that
island of yours? Why don't you take a look out into the real world and
then come back and tell me how we are making progress other than
towards hell.

>What a load of crap. This is from the philosophy you hold dear??
>What shit. How any idiot can think it has any value, let alone cling to it as if it is
>actually real is incomprehensible. Really Jahnu, you need to get some valium,
>thorazine or prozac. You're a danger to yourself and others and should be
>contained in a padded cell to keep you from hurting other people.

Wow, such brilliant well argued points. You really stumped me there,
Stick.

>Does anyone else notice the sick double standards and kwishna's (or whoever
>the deluded moron was who wrote this shit) superiority complex?
>Envious of you?? Blaspheme against the *real* religion?? Yeah, I get it. Follow
>the blatherings of this particular dickhead or else we're evil. Fuck right off.

Well, Stick, your ranting _is_ kind of blasphemous.

>This crap absolutely *SPEWS* envy Jahnu. The sick, twisted pervert who wrote
>the shit you've quoted needed maiming. I can't believe you actually fall for this
>shit so badly as to hold it dear and puke it to others. You're really sick Jahnu.
>All this idiot says is that if we don't accept his bullshit, point blank and without
>question, then we become the demonic species he describes. What crap. Who
>the fuck was he to talk? Why is he anything special? I can write a fairy-tale and
>claim anyone who doesn't believe it and live it is evil, too, but so what?

But the difference between you and Krishna is that Krishna is revered
all over the planet by billions of people, and His teachings has been
studied by thoughtful and intelligent people for thousands of years.

With all due respect to your literacy, Stick, but I don't think you
could write anything which would have such a profound effect on
anybody that they'd be willing to give up their nonsense and follow
you instead.

>Thank fuck. Who'd want to approach this egotistical, maniacal kwishna loser
>except to beat his face in with a brick?

That's funny. You want to beat the face of God with brick? Get serious
Stick, calm down. What's eating you? Maybe it's all this kangaroo meat
you eat that's poluting your system. I once saw on TV how the
aboriginies dig up these big, fat, juicy sand worms and squish them
over their bread like tuna-fish paste. Do you also do that?

>FUCK OFF WITH YOUR KWISHNA-UNCONSCIOUSNESS.
>It's mindless babble and you're an idiot.

>Stick

Hey Stick, I think this guy got a hold of your pass word again. You
gotta do something about it. He's just ranting on and on like a
madman. Maybe he is eating worms.

Stix

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Jul 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/22/96
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! <= sound of Jahnoo taking the bait and running with
the line. :)

(I love the way you've changed "stix" to "stick." :) )

> On Wed, 17 Jul 96 02:14:20 GMT, st...@ozemail.com.au (Stix) wrote:
>
> >Jah-nu! clap clap clap, Jah-nu! clap clap clap,
> >(summoning up the demon again)
>
> >Well you thought wrong Jahnu, like you always do.
>
> Why do you think I'm wrong? I don't think I'm wrong. I think I'm
> right. How might that be?

Simple, Jahnoo. You're a deluded idiot.
I notice you snipped the rant of yours that my answer pertained to, which was
that you thought your vague-ass would help us understand ourselves. It won't,
this is an *atheist* newsgroup, and the vague-ass is full of nonsense. Ergo you
thought wrong. Nothing unusual about that.

> >Who gives a flying fuck *what* this blinded moron thinks or writes? Sri
> >Kwishna and his homosexual pillow-biting "friend" Arjuna were both sick
> >paedophiles. Only total losers take any of their Bhag of Gita's seriously.
>
> In fact, Stick, I know many people who give a flying huck. Like
> Oppenheimer, Einstein, Kant, Hegel, Emerson, Thoreau, Jiva Goswami,
> Srila Prabhupada etc.... the list goes on and on with people who are
> far more intelligent and important to the world than you. So it would
> seem that your point is moot.

How so Jahnoo? Are any of the above people regular readers/posters to this
newsgroup? Why don't you find a newsgroup where some of the people you
mention contribute? Summon the dead ones up spiritually or something. :)
Seeing as none of the above participate in this newsgroup, it seems *your* point
is moot. How unusual.
Oh, and how did you work out that all these people are far more intelligent than
me? Divine inspiration? Was it in the vague-ass?
Bhagavita 16:98 "anyone who is interested in this gibberish is more intelligent
than Stick (sic)"

> >Well, it falls on it's face straight away - how unexpected.
> >Two kinds of created beings? Wrong. No *created* beings, Jahnu. No god
> >Jahnu, no kwishna, Jahnu. Grow up, Janhu.
>
> Are you ever going to argue for your position, Stick?
> Or maybe it's this guy again, who broke into your account?

No no, Jahnoo. It's all me. Even the sick, antagonistic stuff. All work and no
play makes Jack a dull boy, and you're such an easy target. :)
The odd thing about your first question is that you *never* argue for your
position, yet you want me to argue for mine when nothing arguable has been
presented. You argue by assertion and just bleat, "it's in the vague-ass" when
anyone asks you for substantiation, so I'm arguing from assertion straight back.
I'm well aware it's somewhat of a Tu quoque fallacy, but I've been reading your
crap long enough to know there's little point in attempting logical discourse with
you.

> >Barf barf barf. It's human-hating kwishna idiots who want to destroy the
> world Jahnu. We atheists want idiots like you to either wake up or disappear.
> That will make the world a much better, more progressive planet.
>
> Yes, our present civilization is really a progressive one. We are
> really taking nicely care of the planet, right?

"We?" As in the entire human species? Dicto Simpliciter.
Certainly there is much destruction, but there is also much acheivement which
you seem to overlook. You spew your drivel via one of mankinds' acheivements
and I'll just bet that your Bhag of Gita's is printed via mankinds' worthless
printing processes. Your hypocrisy is overwhelming.

> You haven't noticed what we do to nature and her inhabitants? I mean,
> what do you do over there in the desert? Did you ever go outside that
> island of yours? Why don't you take a look out into the real world and
> then come back and tell me how we are making progress other than
> towards hell.

Actually I *have* been to countries outside Australia - the US being one of my
longer excursions. So what? The American standard of living is very high and
all the Americans I met treated me so well I nearly couldn't stand it. :)
Haven't you been keeping up with the advancements of mankind? If not it's your
own blind fault - but then again I've heard you bleat that the evidence is fake and
other nonsense, so why would I expect you to believe me?
Why don't you pull your head out from under your orange sheet, loosen your
pony-tail and tell *ME* how you've figured we're headed toward hell?

> >What a load of crap. This is from the philosophy you hold dear??
> >What shit. How any idiot can think it has any value, let alone cling to it as if
> it is actually real is incomprehensible. Really Jahnu, you need to get some
> valium, thorazine or prozac. You're a danger to yourself and others and should
> be contained in a padded cell to keep you from hurting other people.
>
> Wow, such brilliant well argued points. You really stumped me there,
> Stick.

So I noticed by your one-line snivel.
Stumping you is so easy people do it by accident.

> >Does anyone else notice the sick double standards and kwishna's (or
> whoever the deluded moron was who wrote this shit) superiority complex?
> >Envious of you?? Blaspheme against the *real* religion?? Yeah, I get it.
> Follow the blatherings of this particular dickhead or else we're evil. Fuck
> right off.
>
> Well, Stick, your ranting _is_ kind of blasphemous.

"Kwishna blows dog!" <= is that blasphemous? :)
You missed my point per usual anyway. Every religion claims that anything
spoken against it is blasphemous, so what?

> >This crap absolutely *SPEWS* envy Jahnu. The sick, twisted pervert who
> wrote the shit you've quoted needed maiming. I can't believe you actually fall
> for this shit so badly as to hold it dear and puke it to others. You're really sick
> Jahnu.
> >All this idiot says is that if we don't accept his bullshit, point blank and
> without question, then we become the demonic species he describes. What
> crap. Who the fuck was he to talk? Why is he anything special? I can write a
> fairy-tale and claim anyone who doesn't believe it and live it is evil, too, but
> so what?
>
> But the difference between you and Krishna is that Krishna is revered
> all over the planet by billions of people, and His teachings has been
> studied by thoughtful and intelligent people for thousands of years.

Ha ha ha. Argumentum ad verecundiam sprinkled with argumentum ad populum.
Baste well with lies and serve to idiots. :)

> With all due respect to your literacy, Stick, but I don't think you
> could write anything which would have such a profound effect on
> anybody that they'd be willing to give up their nonsense and follow
> you instead.

Thanks for respecting my literacy, Jahnoo. (that "thanks" is actually sincere)
As for you not thinking I could write anything profound, who cares? You
wouldn't read it anyway.
Actually I have several "conversions to reality" notches on my belt as a direct
result of things I have said and written, and many people enjoy the way I write.
Then again, lots of folks *don't* like what and how I write. Big deal. You can't
please all of the people all of the time. :)

>>Thank fuck. Who'd want to approach this egotistical, maniacal kwishna loser
>>except to beat his face in with a brick?

>That's funny. You want to beat the face of God with brick? Get serious
>Stick, calm down.

Well, your god-thingumy isn't real so no, I don't *really* have any intention of
beating imaginary kwishnas. Your comment was something about not being able
to approach him for some gobbledegook reason, and I was responding by telling
you the only reason I'd want to approach your bogie-man, if it was actually real.

>What's eating you?

Just the nonsense you revere and try to spew to atheists who aren't ever going to
buy into it. You've been told many times *civilly* but you don't listen, so I like
to treat you like the whipping-boy you set yourself up to be. :)

>Maybe it's all this kangaroo meat
>you eat that's poluting your system.

Yeah, whatever. Strange that I'm never sick then isn't it?
I'd rather do Jahnoo's version of polluting my system with meat than Jahnoos
version of polluting my mind with the vague-ass.

>I once saw on TV how the aboriginies dig up these big, fat, juicy sand worms
>and squish them over their bread like tuna-fish paste. Do you also do that?

Usually they just eat them raw or barbecue them on a fire. They're actually
"witchetty grubs" which is the larvae of some sort of bug. Personally I find it
repulsive and I wouldn't eat bugs unless I was starving.
Incidently I have no aboriginal ancestory whatsoever, and no, I don't also do that.

I've seen Hare's dancing around in a group in public places, wearing orange
sheets with crazy central pony-tail hairstyles, clanging finger-cymbals, beating
on bongos and chanting "Hare rama, hare kwishna, hawe wanker." Do you also
do that?

>FUCK OFF WITH YOUR KWISHNA-UNCONSCIOUSNESS.
>It's mindless babble and you're an idiot.

>Stick

>Hey Stick, I think this guy got a hold of your pass word again. You
>gotta do something about it. He's just ranting on and on like a
>madman. Maybe he is eating worms.

Nope, it's me. Ranting on like a madman? Pot, kettle, black.
Eating worms? Not likely, but a nice tender cow with big, sad eyes or maybe a
nice deer - hmmmmm, yum. Shit, Jahnoo, I'd even eat *you* if there was no other
food around. What would Jahnoo steaks taste like, served on a sizzling platter
with a nice mushroom sauce? Perhaps apple sauce, they say human tastes similar
to pork. What does a Hare taste like? :)

Stix (or Stick, whatever pleases Jahnoo. :) )

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