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CONTENTS:
==========

1.0 - Welcome

2.0 - What's New

3.0 - The Charter

4.0 - Frequently Asked Questions.

4.1 What is alt.atheism?

4.2 - What is a atheism?( WIP)
4.2.1 Some definitions

4.3 - History of the NG (WIP)

4.4 - Who are the Key Figures In Atheism (WIP)
4.4.1 Modern Atheists

4.5 Atheism as part of Non-Belief

4.6 Atheism in History

4.7 Common terms

4.8 Where can I find archived messages?

4.9 Who moderates alt.atheism?

5.0 - Contributors

6.0 - Additions / Amendments to the FAQ

1.0 WELCOME
=============

Welcome to alt.atheism, an open, unmoderated newsgroup
for the discussion of all topics relating to
atheism in an open forum dedicated to
Free Speech and rights for all.

2.0 What's new:
=============

The BAWAA faction have revived their Warlord after a series
of defections and the general decline of the NG for some years now.

Can the rot be stopped?

Ask the new Warlord, Fluffy


http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/

3.0 THE CHARTER
================


CHARTER: alt.atheism

An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a
forum for the discussion of all aspects
of atheism.

Possible discussions are, but not limited to:

- Union of Savage Slaughter and Repression(USSR)
- Mao's Great Leap Backwards
- Mao's Cultural Devolution
- Pol Pots Cambodian Genocide
- Nth Korea
- Atheist fundamentalism
- The decline in global Atheism
- Metaphysics.. Just kidding!
- Jesus jokes
- Hard-Core Atheist thuggery
- forging
- Slandering
- Lying
- Pack Hunting
- BAWAA

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats and
# not in a girly way.


This group will be unmoderated.
Binary postings, chain letters and unrelated
commercial advertisements are prohibited.

Cross-posting should not be discouraged.

Knowledge is Holistic, Users should exercise their
judgement as to which NGs are relevant

4.0 FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
================================

4.1 What is alt.atheism?

alt.atheism is the Internet network news forum
for discussing atheism

4.2 - What is a atheism? ( WIP)

Here are some starting points, feel free to
submit/discuss your own:


4.2.1 Definition

1. "The Doctrine that their is no God"
2. "A Disbelief in the existence of a God (or gods)
3. Godlessness

The Macquarie Dictionary (2nd Revised edition) 1989

4.2.2 Some Individual Perspectives:


Send us your views.


4.2.2.1 Historical Atheism:

"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

Atheist States

# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
#
# "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia�s Buddhist religion:
# monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
# Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
# other religious sentiments were often killed.
# ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
# and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
# and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
# starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
# prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
# instead of the family.
#
# About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot�s regime."
# - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
#
# The Cambodian Genocide:
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg

#
# "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
# regarded by the regime as social parasites,
# were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
# Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
# destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
# Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
# rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
# or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
# were often killed.
#
# The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
# persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
# Phnom Penh was completely razed.
#
# The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
# regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
# Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
# - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
#
# "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
# because of their religion."
#
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/44camboyano.jpg
#
#
# "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
# - Daniel Peris,
# "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
# Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
#
#
# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
# - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
# Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.

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4.3- History of the NG

Achievements:


Goals:

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4.4 - Who are the Key Figures in Atheism (WIP)


4.4.1 Modern Atheists

Lenin

Mao

Stalin

Pol Pot

Kim ill Fuk

Kim ill Suk

Richard Dawkins

Christopher Hitchens

Fluffy the BAWAA Warlord{Snigger)

BAWAA Nights

http://www.computerpranks.com/download/images/sheep_guy.jpg


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4.5 Atheism as a minority sub-group of Non-Belief

# Highlights: US religious majority: 80%
#
# Atheists 2.3% worldwide
# 0.7% in the USA
#
#
# American Religious Identification Survey, Summary Report March 2009:
#
# "Self-identification of U.S. Adult Population by Religious Tradition
#
# 2001 2008
#
# Non- religious 29,481,000 (14.1%) 34,169,000 (15%)
#
# Religious 167,254,000 (80%) 182,198,000 (80%)
#
# Agnostics 991,000 (0.5%) 1,985,000 (0.9%)
#
# Atheists 902,000 (0.4%) 1,621,000 (0.7%)
#

#
# 'NON-RELIGIOUS' DOES NOT = ATHEIST
#
# Atheism is

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4.6 Atheism in History (WIP)

Epicurus

Hypatia

Not Much Happening for millennia

No great and enduring civilisations

@0th Century Atheist States

USSR

Maoist China

Pol Pots Cambodia

Nth Korea

Albania?

Russell

Dawkins

Hitchins

Bus Ads


In May 2009, their support waning and their numbers dwindling
to a mere handful, the BAWAA faction decided to emulate the
historical political structure of the infamous Atheist states
of the the 20th Century and chose a Warlord to control their
thoughts and actions See Fluffy

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/


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4.7 Common terms

4.7.1 What is "BAWAA"

A cult formed around a self-appointed 'Warlord'

Like the priesthood, they are dying out, for
much the same reasons ;-)

4.7.2 What is a Baaa Baaa Waa Waaa Night

Here are two of them, they are interchangable

http://www.computerpranks.com/download/images/sheep_guy.jpg


4.7.3 What is "Blind Cricket"

Fluffy goes sub-orbital

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/

4.7.4 What is ad-hom


'ad-hom', a contraction for 'ad-hominem argument',
means literally 'argument against the man'.
In alt.atheism ad-hom is synonymous with 'abuse'.
This is in distinction to the formal meaning of
ad-hominem argument in which the truth or falsity
of a proposition is said to follow from the source
of the proposition.


4.7.5 What does "fasgnadh" mean

"Sorting the Wheat from the Chaff"
separating the worthy from the unworthy.

4.7.6 What is post forgery
The unconscionable alteration of text and attributions
to make the posters words appear to be attributed to
their victim See Syd Slander and Virgil

4.7.7 What is a Killfile?

The standard tactic for atheists to avoid questions they
can't answer, arguments too rational for them to rebut
and their major method of Running Away

4.7.8 What Snip and Run

Snipping all of the opponents text and saying nothing

4.7.9 What is the future for alt.atheism


# "The Kooks and assholes are way louder and more visible
# it is getting to me lately.
#
# The kooks are stupid but tedious and boring with it
# -not even "kooky" in an entertaining - fun to poke at - way.
#
# There are no decent arguments"
#
# Subject: The Decline of alt atheism - and time to say farewell.
# From: Richo <m.richa...@gmail.com>
# Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:59:09 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
<acbca475-4901-4b6d...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com>


4.7.10 What is a "Drongo", "fruit loop", "Boofhead", "Bozo", "mullet",

"nong", "rabbit" ..an idiot cf: Virgil

4.7.11 What is an "Ankle-biter"

- a (small) child
(cf: apprentice Baaa Baaa Waaa Waaa Nought ;-)


4.7.12 What is a "Wanker"

- someone prone to self-abuse,
often in public. eg: Bukakke

4.7.13 What is

4.7.14 What is

4.7.15

4.7.16


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4.8. Where can I find archived messages?

Posts are archived at www.google.com.

Except for Fluffy's, he's shy.

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4.9 Who moderates alt.atheism?

No-one. This is an unmoderated NG.
Anyone is free to post here within the defamation,
libel and vilification laws of the land

This was the founding principle of USENET and is supported,
at least in principle, by most people who value freedom

"The Universal Declaration of Human Rights turns 60 next week
and, as the founding document for all international human rights
treaties, it has played an important legal and intellectual
role for the past 60 years.

We are all free to believe, think and speak
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=HmHS-bSIH9g

"Human right # 18

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience
and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or
belief, and freedom, either alone or in community, with others
and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in
teaching, practice, worship and observance."
- The Universal Declaration of Human Rights


Which of these people don't have rights?
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ixjACBvv2mE

No one can take them away
http://www.youthforhumanrights.org/watchads/view/psa30_h.html

5.0 CONTRIBUTORS
================

fasgnadh -Comic Inspiration
Morton Lucifer -FAQ creator
Steve Knight - Playing with Swords and stuff
Ritcho - Showing Atheists the way
Bukakke - Sewer Inspector
Virgil - Photocopying
Trance Stupor - zzzzzzzzzzzz

I wouldn't want to upset anyone by leaving them out


6.0 - ADDITIONS / AMENDMENTS TO THE FAQ
=======================================
Post submissions to the alt.atheism NG
with

AAA FAQ ... in the header

alt.atheism regulator

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fasgnadh

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Love it!

Fluffy goes sub-orbital! B^D

Here's my first suggestion:

Lets do a Book!!!!

I'm serious!

Dawkins and Hitchens have gone off the Boil

A real challenge, by agnostics, not fundies
to the New Barbarians.

A whole Chapter on the BAWAA CULT in Usenet! B^)

I have reams of material archived and they are just so damn funny!

Especially the dummy spits.

I have a friend who does his own piublishing and
his son does illustrations.

Let me know if you would like to participate!

Heres my submission for the FAQ:


Under 4.4.1

The Modern Atheists:

>> # From: "John Fraser" <jfr...@ns.sympatico.ca>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
>> # Subject: Merry Christmas
>> # Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:03 -0400
>> # Message-ID: <4953abb6$1$5460$9a56...@news.aliant.net>
>> #
>> # Hello Folks;
>> #
>> # I'd like to wish all of you a very Merry Christmas
>> # and a safe holiday season. Phil 4:8.
>> #
>> # Cheers,
>> # John
>>
>>
>>
>> # From: Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
>> # Subject: Re: Merry Christmas
>> # Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:24:01 -0500
>> # Message-ID: <o07dl41sa4t4jhof3...@4ax.com>
>> #
>> # "go fuck yourself with your crucifix in a drill chuck'.

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats and
# not in a girly way.


# From: Budikka <budi...@netscape.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,talk.atheism,alt.agnosticism
# Message-ID:
<f7b40bcb-cf4f-40b5...@d21g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>
# Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:00:25 -0700 (PDT)
#
#
# He doesn't defecate like the rest of us
#
# Budikka

You can see how this stuff is Gold....

Dr Phil would love to do a piece on any of them.

Bukakke? Fluffy? Chuk Lee?


How would you like to make some money? ;-)


--


"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest


"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest


"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest

http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg

raven1

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As Fasgnadh nym-shifts yet again to avoid killfiles. How pathetic.

Government Shill #2

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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:37:36 -0400, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
wrote:

>As Fasgnadh nym-shifts yet again to avoid killfiles. How pathetic.

Nym-shifting is one of the categories in the Kookometer

http://www.hyperdeath.co.uk/kook/

--
Shill #2

Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
theobviousgcashman

duke

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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:59:02 GMT, "alt.atheism regulator" <"alt.atheism
regulator"@monitor.net> wrote:

>CHARTER: alt.atheism

>An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a
>forum for the discussion of all aspects
>of atheism.

And it's errors.

The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Government Shill #2

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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:14:38 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:59:02 GMT, "alt.atheism regulator" <"alt.atheism
>regulator"@monitor.net> wrote:
>
>>CHARTER: alt.atheism
>
>>An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a
>>forum for the discussion of all aspects
>>of atheism.
>
>And it's errors.

Such as? And no using quotes from your fairy tale book.

--
Shill #2

"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When
many people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion."
Robert M. Pirsig

alt.atheism regulator

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Document and submit them Duke!

Unlike the old, rigged AQOTM witchunt,
the FAQ is Fair and Balanced. ;-)

The FAQ is also interested in atheist art, photography,
music, if you can find any of interest or concern;

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6349?context=latest

there will be a gallery 'featuring' it,
with links to the atheist source.

It is time atheists stood up proudly and let the world
see their work for what it is;

Kill Jesus
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
Jesus light switch
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest


And I have it archived if they try to delete it,
as they did on previous occasions when I
exposed their sludge... B^]

Screen prints, showing the website. ;-)


The FAQ is also interested in atheist
humour, if you can find any.

A rogues gallery of post forgers and other kooks
would be a community service...

Pass the word and start posting it in.


Once we pass critical mass there is a very funny satirical book in the
making and why not a film...

these characters are wonderful, if inadvertent, comic material!

'Warlords', 'Knightesses', 'Excalibur.. ' Hilarious.


Especially Fluffy.

raven1

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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:01 +0200, Government Shill #2
<gov....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:14:38 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:59:02 GMT, "alt.atheism regulator" <"alt.atheism
>>regulator"@monitor.net> wrote:
>>
>>>CHARTER: alt.atheism
>>
>>>An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a
>>>forum for the discussion of all aspects
>>>of atheism.
>>
>>And it's errors.
>
>Such as? And no using quotes from your fairy tale book.

He won't. This isn't a typical fundie kook you're replying to, it's
Fasgnadh, an extremely obnoxious (and completely insane) agnostic,
with a massive chip on his shoulder towards atheists, whom he blames
collectively for the atrocities of Communist regimes.

Government Shill #2

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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:13:03 -0400, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
wrote:

duke is Fags?

If I'd known it was Fags, I wouldn't have even read it, let alone replied.

fasgnadh

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alt.atheism regulator wrote:
> duke wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:59:02 GMT, "alt.atheism regulator" <"alt.atheism
>> regulator"@monitor.net> wrote:
>>
>>> CHARTER: alt.atheism
>>
>>> An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a
>>> forum for the discussion of all aspects
>>> of atheism.
>>
>> And it's errors.
>>
>> The Dukester, American-American
>> *****
>> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>> Pope Paul VI
>> *****
>
>
> Document and submit them Duke!
>
> Unlike the old, rigged AQOTM witchunt,
> the FAQ is Fair and Balanced. ;-)
>

This is an excellent, intelligent documentary which
is informative, fair and balanced;


Johnathen Miller

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3162184064060187674#


Could it go in a 'resources' component of the FAQ?

We really must encourage the development of
INTELLIGENT discussion in contrast to the
fantacists and Kooks who think they are
Warlords or Wolves, and ACT OUT their pagan delusions! B^D


--

alt.atheism FAQ:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/


http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source


"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest


"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest

raven1

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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:32:55 +0200, Government Shill #2
<gov....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:13:03 -0400, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:01 +0200, Government Shill #2
>><gov....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:14:38 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:59:02 GMT, "alt.atheism regulator" <"alt.atheism
>>>>regulator"@monitor.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>CHARTER: alt.atheism
>>>>
>>>>>An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a
>>>>>forum for the discussion of all aspects
>>>>>of atheism.
>>>>
>>>>And it's errors.
>>>
>>>Such as? And no using quotes from your fairy tale book.
>>
>>He won't. This isn't a typical fundie kook you're replying to, it's
>>Fasgnadh, an extremely obnoxious (and completely insane) agnostic,
>>with a massive chip on his shoulder towards atheists, whom he blames
>>collectively for the atrocities of Communist regimes.
>
>duke is Fags?
>
>If I'd known it was Fags, I wouldn't have even read it, let alone replied.

Sorry, I have Duke killfiled, so it looked like you were responding to
Fasgnadh in the thread view. My bad. Duke *is* a religious nutjob.

fasgnadh

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Government Shill #2 thinks Duke is fasgnadh:

> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:13:03 -0400, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:01 +0200, Government Shill #2
>> <gov....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:14:38 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> This isn't a typical fundie kook you're replying to, it's
>> Fasgnadh, an agnostic,


No, he's replying to Duke, cretin

I'm not Duke! You are a confused net Kook!

> duke is Fags?

No, you are a gullible atheist twonk listening
to a confused atheist kook, never a good substitute
for independent THOUGHT! B^D

> If I'd known it was Fags, I wouldn't have even read it

We know, you are all terrified of me, for reasons like those
exposed here, now.

Neither of these lying slandering atheist fuckwits will
apologise for their slander, or their idiocy, they are atheists
and have no integrity.


--

alt.atheism FAQ:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/


http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source


"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest


"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest

Government Shill #2

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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:41:19 -0400, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
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np. I have fags killfiled, so... vice versa

fasgnadh

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raven1 wrote:

> Government Shill #2 thinks Duke is fasgnadh:

>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:13:03 -0400, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:01 +0200, Government Shill #2
>>> <gov....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:14:38 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> This isn't a typical fundie kook you're replying to, it's

>>> Fasgnadh, an agnostic,

No, he's replying to Duke, cretin

I'm not Duke! You are a confused net Kook!

>> duke is Fags?

No, you are a gullible atheist twonk listening
to a confused atheist kook, never a good substitute
for independent THOUGHT! B^D

>> If I'd known it was Fags, I wouldn't have even read it

We know, you are all terrified of me, for reasons like those
exposed here, now.

These atheists demonstrate their irrationality by
falsely accusing those they don't even READ:

> Sorry, I have Duke kill-filed, so it looked like


> you were responding to Fasgnadh in the thread view.


So we have classic examples of how these confused
atheists operate:

a) can't think for themselves, but uncritically swallow
ANY false information a fellow atheist feeds them!

b) blind themselves with their Killfile Kowardice!

c) attack those they haven't READ for things they
HAVEN'T SAID! It's ATHEIST WITCH-HUNTS! B^p

d) NEVER APOLOGISE, EVEN WHEN IT IS CLEAR THEY
HAVE FUCKED UP!


Neither of these lying slandering atheist fuckwits will
apologise for their slander, or their idiocy, they are atheists
and have no integrity.

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abelard

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Sep 27, 2009, 12:24:32 PM9/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:06:09 GMT, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

1941 mccabe fyi
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/joseph_mccabe/big_blue_books/book_05.html
"You have only to turn back a few years and compare its feeling at the
time when, at the beginning of 1930, Pacelli virtually took over the
rule of the Church. Then the Church of Rome was disintegrating more
rapidly than ever before. The steady loss by leakage until 1914 had
been succeeded, as I showed, by a catastrophic loss of between
50,000,000 and 100,000,000 in about ten years. Russia, the principal
source of the new corroding force, had made good and was preparing to
offer to the world something which Rome had always declared
impossible: a great civilization built without the least religious
inspiration, for no one questions that the constructive class in
Russia was entirely atheistic. Without anything that could justly be
called persecution of religion this class had communicated its atheism
to something like 100,000,000 people within its own frontiers, won
tens of millions in China and even French Indo-China and Siam, and
crossed the Pacific and devastated the Church from Mexico to
Patagonia. The same influence had pervaded Europe and had in Germany
and the southern half of the continent detached tens of millions of
Catholic's from the Church. I have given the figures and the
evidence."

3 group removed due to posting restrictions

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Judicial Corruption Australia

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Sep 27, 2009, 12:30:39 PM9/27/09
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Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a
Corrupt, Racist White nation

Inquiry into Access to Justice.d.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZMGFlNzNjYzAtZjE5ZC00YzNlLTg0ZjQtOWUxN2M3YTRjZjkw&hl=en

Letter to Mr Charles Pham.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNzY2YjNhNDYtZTkzYi00NmE0LWJhZWMtOGNhYTQ4ZDZiMTUx&hl=en

Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en


Judicial corruption exposes institutionalised racism that reaches all
up the way to the High Court Australia. An officer of the Royal
Australian Navy is left without medical care as he was harassed
victimised and unlawfully discriminated against as he exposed unsafe
working conditions in the Navy, that put public safety and lives at
risk.

He approached HREOC with a complaint under HREOCA1986 and RDA1975;
what he found was institutional racism, coverup and perverting of the
Human Rights Act, violating Australia's obligation under International
Treaties ICCPR and ICERD. The president of HREOC, John von Doussa
violated HREOAC1986 in refusing to investigate his White mates, and
then refusing to terminate the complaints so that it can be heard in
the Federal Courts.

More institutionalised racism occurred at the Administrative Appeals
Tribunal, where Senior Member John Handley proceeded to pervert
justice by fabricating documents and evidence.

Questions of Law will be asked of the validity of the HREOAC1986 and
RDA1975 as the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee,
chair and co-chair, Senators Barnett and Crossin indicated that
Inquiries into Access to Justice, Australia's Legal System and the
Role of Judges should not be of assistance to Australian Citizens of
ethnic backgrounds.

Institutionalised racism and corruption in the Judiciary have made
political prisoners of Aborigines such as Lex Wotton, dogwhistled to
corrupt police leading to Black Deaths in Custody, putting public
health and safety in jeopardy, and allowing a four (4) year old
Aborigines girl to die after having been refused medical care at a Qld
hospital, political assasination of Phuong Ngo, political assasination
of Frederick Toben.

They set them up to fail and when they fail, they call them inferior
and lock them up.

Racist and corrupt White nation inciting racial hatred and Black
Deaths in Custody, reduce the Black Man to fight for his basic human
rights

The High Court Australia has been labelled racist by Justice Michael
Kirby. The Australian Michael Pelley called the High Court racist and
hyprocrites. They are so afraid of the HREOCA1986, because even the
High Court Australia must obey an Act of Parliament.

Corrupt and racist Judiciary will fight with all its might and means
to deprive us of HREOCA1986, to deprive us of Habeas Corpus as we file
such writs for Lex Wotton, Phuong Ngo, and Frederick Toben. We might
not like their politics or ethnicity, but their loss of judicial
independence and fairness, and their experience of judicial abuse of
discretionary powers will greatly affect us all now and in the future.

Until Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee and Australian
Parliament secede from ICCPR and ICERD, even the High Court must obey
HREOCA1986. We must fight for HREOCA1986 even if the Corrupt changes
its name, because it is the only Bill of Rights we have."

administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
iWitness: Judicial Corruption
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/

> If Institutionalised Racism kills, High Court Australia criminal? You
>bet
>
>http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2137/75221326522959327217259.jpg
>
>
>
>http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/61/logohreoc.gif
>
><img src="http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/61/logohreoc.gif">
>
Request that UN Committee on Elimination of Racism to prosecute WHITE
Racist Nations, incl Australia

Request that UN Committee on Elimination of Racism to prosecute WHITE
Racist Nations, incl Australia

Cant the Whiteman be trusted with a signed Treaty?

Come join this petition, and save American Taxpayers' dollars on
useless UN rorts that only go to fuel terrorism through their
hypocrisy and abuse of UN process, and the Universal Declaration of
Human Rights.

<a
href="http://www.change.org/actions/view/
request_that_un_committee_on_elimination_of_racism_to_prosecute_white_racist_nations_incl_australia">change.org</
a>


http://www.change.org/actions/view/request_that_un_committee_on_elimination_of_racism_to_prosecute_white_racist_nations_incl_australia

<a
href="http://www.change.org/actions/view/
request_that_un_committee_on_elimination_of_racism_to_prosecute_white_racist_nations_incl_australia">Change.org</
a>

<blockquote>
The Hypocrisy of the UN Human Rights Bodies continues unabated. It
seems like the western world can do no wrong, and western countries
like Australia can ride rougshod over UN Human Rights Treaties, and at
the same time can dictate to less developed nations.

REF: G/SO AUS 215/4
http://rapidshare.com/files/101392885/OHCHR.23February2008.web.pdf.html

1. Communication to: Special Rapporteur of the Commission on Human
Rights on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers

2. Submitted for consideration under International Convention on the
Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination


Kangaroo Court of Australia
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
Institutionalised Discrimination and Corruption in Australian Legal
System

Universal declaration on human rights

come join my group and help assist the OHCHR uphold its human rights
mandates
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10385581643

Below and an account of Institutionalised racism within in the
Australian Judicial System and the High Court Australia:

http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/index.php?/topic/2880-strawman-arguments-expose-australian-senate-legal-and-constitutional-affairs-standing-committee/#mytop

https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html

NB. i need the email address of the UN Secretary General

Torsten Schackel
Acting Secretary of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial
Discrimination
Human Rights Treaties Branch
Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights
Tel. +41.22.917.9614 - Fax +41.22.917.90.29
e-mail: tsch...@ohchr.org
Palais Wilson - 52, rue des P�quis, CH-1201, Geneva, Switzerland
Mailing address: UNOG-OHCHR, CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland

Joyce Fucio,
Administrative Assistant
Secretariat of the Committee on the Elimination of Racial
Discrimination
Treaties and Commission Branch
Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights
Tel. +41.22.917.94.09 - Fax +41.22.917.90.22
e-mail: jfu...@ohchr.org
Palais Wilson - 52, rue des P�quis, CH-1201, Geneva, Switzerland
Mailing address: UNOG-OHCHR, CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland

"Under Article 14 of International Convenant on the Elimination of All
Forms of Racial Discrimination, individuals can file submissions to
the International Committee on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial
Discrimination if the country has signed the UN ICERD Treaty and allow
the Committee to hear such submissions.

The Committee has a moral obligation if not a legal obligation to
investigate and make recommendations. The Committee has a moral duty
if not legal obligation to return correspondence.

REF: G/SO AUS 215/4
http://rapidshare.com/files/101392885/OHCHR.23February2008.web.pdf.html

1. Communication to: Special Rapporteur of the Commission on Human
Rights on the Independence of Judges and Lawyers

2. Submitted for consideration under International Convention on the
Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination

Kangaroo Court of Australia
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
Institutionalised Discrimination and Corruption in Australian Legal
System

The lack of correpondence from the Committee shed bad light on the UN
process as a whole and violates the Universal Declaration on Human
Rights.

We urge Mr Secretary General Mr Ban Ki-Moon to request that the
Committee carry out their duty and make Dignity and Justice for ALL
and not just some people."
</blockquote>

Australia's de facto Bill of Rights (HREOCA1986) under threat from a
Corrupt, Racist White nation

Judicial corruption exposes institutionalised racism that reaches all
up the way to the High Court Australia. An officer of the Royal
Australian Navy is left without medical care as he was harassed
victimised and unlawfully discriminated against as he exposed unsafe
working conditions in the Navy, that put public safety and lives at
risk.

He approached HREOC with a complaint under HREOCA1986 and RDA1975;
what he found was institutional racism, coverup and perverting of the
Human Rights Act, violating Australia's obligation under International
Treaties ICCPR and ICERD. The president of HREOC, John von Doussa
violated HREOAC1986 in refusing to investigate his White mates, and
then refusing to terminate the complaints so that it can be heard in
the Federal Courts.

More institutionalised racism occurred at the Administrative Appeals
Tribunal, where Senior Member John Handley proceeded to pervert
justice by fabricating documents and evidence.

Questions of Law will be asked of the validity of the HREOAC1986 and
RDA1975 as the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee,
chair and co-chair, Senators Barnett and Crossin indicated that
Inquiries into Access to Justice, Australia's Legal System and the
Role of Judges should not be of assistance to Australian Citizens of
ethnic backgrounds.

Institutionalised racism and corruption in the Judiciary have made
political prisoners of Aborigines such as Lex Wotton, dogwhistled to
corrupt police leading to Black Deaths in Custody, putting public
health and safety in jeopardy, and allowing a four (4) year old
Aborigines girl to die after having been refused medical care at a Qld
hospital, political assasination of Phuong Ngo, political assasination
of Frederick Toben.

They set them up to fail and when they fail, they call them inferior
and lock them up.

Racist and corrupt White nation inciting racial hatred and Black
Deaths in Custody, reduce the Black Man to fight for his basic human
rights

The High Court Australia has been labelled racist by Justice Michael
Kirby. The Australian Michael Pelley called the High Court racist and
hyprocrites. They are so afraid of the HREOCA1986, because even the
High Court Australia must obey an Act of Parliament.

Corrupt and racist Judiciary will fight with all its might and means
to deprive us of HREOCA1986, to deprive us of Habeas Corpus as we file
such writs for Lex Wotton, Phuong Ngo, and Frederick Toben. We might
not like their politics or ethnicity, but their loss of judicial
independence and fairness, and their experience of judicial abuse of
discretionary powers will greatly affect us all now and in the future.

Until Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs Committee and Australian
Parliament secede from ICCPR and ICERD, even the High Court must obey
HREOCA1986. We must fight for HREOCA1986 even if the Corrupt changes
its name, because it is the only Bill of Rights we have."

administrator
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
iWitness: Judicial Corruption
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/


-----------------------------------------
why little Johnnie Winston Coward Howard?

why must you cover up for your crooked white mates like crooked high
court judges French, Hayne, Gummow and Crennan JJ ?

Senate Enquiries: Whitewash
http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/committee/legcon_ctte/judicial_system/in...
iWitness: Judicial Corruption Australia
http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/index.php?/topic/2217-y...

Heres a Documentary on how these corrupt judges conspire to pervert
justice and fabricate documents, include the newly appointed Chief
Justice Robert Stenton French

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ

The little Johnnie Winston Coward Howard neverending Magic Pudding therapy,
where feckin white pedophiles with the nerve to accuse blackfellas !!!

Crooked racist white Australia ^^

http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/index.php
http://kangaroocourtaustralia.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyj_gWqdDWQ&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/user/fightKangarooCourts

fasgnadh

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Sep 27, 2009, 1:30:50 PM9/27/09
to
Government Shill #2 wrote:
> raven1 wrote:
>> Government Shill #2 thinks Duke is fasgnadh:
>>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:13:03 -0400, raven1 <quotht...@nevermore.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:01 +0200, Government Shill #2
>>>> <gov....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:14:38 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This isn't a typical fundie kook you're replying to, it's
>>>> Fasgnadh, an agnostic,

No, he's replying to Duke, cretin

I'm not Duke! You are a confused net Kook!

>>> duke is Fags?

No, you are a gullible atheist twonk listening
to a confused atheist kook, never a good substitute
for independent THOUGHT! B^D

>>> If I'd known it was Fags, I wouldn't have even read it

We know, you are all terrified of me, for reasons like those
exposed here, now.

These atheists demonstrate their irrationality by
falsely accusing those they don't even READ:

>> Sorry, I have Duke kill-filed, so it looked like


>> you were responding to Fasgnadh in the thread view.
>

> np. I have fags killfiled, so... vice versa

Symmetrical idiocy! B^p

Each has one eye blinded and they
each hold their telescopes to their bad eye
and compound their blindness!


> Shill #2

So we have classic examples of how these confused
atheists operate:

a) can't think for themselves, but uncritically swallow
ANY false information a fellow atheist feeds them!

b) blind themselves with their Killfile Kowardice!

c) attack those they haven't READ for things they
HAVEN'T SAID! It's ATHEIST WITCH-HUNTS! B^p

d) NEVER APOLOGISE, EVEN WHEN IT IS CLEAR THEY
HAVE FUCKED UP!


Neither of these lying slandering atheist fuckwits will
apologise for their slander, or their idiocy, they are atheists
and have no integrity.

--

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-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

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"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

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dolf

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Sep 27, 2009, 1:35:44 PM9/27/09
to
That given recent European questions of Microsoft's propriety towards
the STATE, and of course the representation of the natural and common
law definition of MARRIAGE in our legislation, raises a question of the
suitable adoption of an information economy using the vCube Grapple
Homoiotic Noumenon as the core fore staging values, beliefs and
psychosomatic framework for autonomic, corporate and states based
governance within the Commonwealth.

I am in superannuated retirement and a recipient of salary continuance
benevolence on the basis of religious, racial and sexual vilification
made in relation to HIV acquired as symptomatic of post traumatic stress
after a bomb blast incident in proximity during a period of police
service as oath of office sworn before the revoking of the 1900 letters
patent to the Australian commonwealth and concerning a subsequent
contract of employment which whilst including an AIDS exclusion clause
also imposes a definition of marriage--as breaching my Intellectual
Property, natural and common law right.

This particular intellectual property (ie. able to be held in mind) as
spatial reality and association made to temporal cognitive elements is
what I describe to the mind in time/space as being physically strapped
into a gyroscope and twisting about.

I have on 3 November 2008 provided a letter as preliminary instructions
to my lawyers with respect to proceeding with a warrant for the arrest
of Mr. Michael D�Argaville and the Panel Chair Mr. Michael Arnold over
the claim of Treason against the Sovereign Autonomic Right under the
Commonwealth occasioning deferral to the Federal Government�s August
2004 amendments to the definition of Marriage as slander and the denial
of justice by the Financial Industry Complaints Service Limited (now
Financial Ombudsman Service �FOS�) in relation to religious, racial and
sexual vilification.

Our intention is to pursue Mr. Michael D�Argaville and the Panel Chair
Mr. Michael Arnold for religious, racial and sexual vilification on the
basis of their engaging within marriage and oath in association to a
religious belief and that the fraudulent, collusional and arrogant
nature of this religious practice is the cause for the unlawful conduct
by these individuals.

We find it extra-ordinary that religious and political refugees to this
country--who have no intention of giving compliance to the laws of this
country can continue to impede our own access to justice, religious and
democratic freedom which is denied to us in Australia and do so against
the rights of Indigenous Dutch Australians."

Guardian Snow (American Yahwehist) OZ Parasite: "Let us both work
together to show our belief by our works, be blessed and THANK YOU."

(ru) dolf: "You need to appreciate what Dutch religious belief of 1730
CE with all its richness of Christian, Jewish and Chinese DAO
assimilation and its guild understanding of autonomic belief has as
connectedness to aboriginal art conceptions of vast distance, their land
and cosmology

I am not going to rest until the Chief Executive Officer to the Equal
Opportunity and Human Rights Commission is brought to trial for treason
occasioning religious, racial and sexual vilification of the autonomic
right under the State.

I expect her to be executed for such crimes against the state."

I'm presently writing to the NSW police in relation to their
intervention as arrest of 2009.9.2 in light of an earlier conspicuous,
determined and deliberative protest action of 1999.8.21 by me as Dolf
Leendert BOEK against instances of gay persecution by the Victoria
Police following their investigation into the identity of unknown
persons responsible for the systematic divulging of organisational
abuses which appeared in The Age Newspaper over several years prior.

And with consideration as reported in The Australian Newspaper of
2009.9.27 that the Victorian State Government is presently going to
impugn those autonomic and HAN natural and common law rights by allowing
Churches to discriminate against: "gays and single mothers in a
controversial compromise reached on workers' rights.

Attorney-General Rob Hulls has approved of a plan to let church-run
organisations refuse employment to anyone they believe undermines their
beliefs, according to The Sunday Age.

The newspaper says the plan will allow church groups to discriminate on
grounds of sex, sexual orientation, marital status and parental status,
but in return these groups will cease being able to discriminate on the
basis of race, age, disability, political beliefs, breastfeeding and
physical features.

The expected changes to Victoria's equal opportunity laws come several
weeks before a report by a state parliament committee into the issue is
due to be released." [cf: The Australian newspaper 2009.9.27]

Rod (rodea...@ymail.com): "Dolf, I have absolutely nothing against you
and I value you as a human being, but Dolf you MUST see a shrink before
you get any worse, and this is not an exaggeration. Mental illness is
like a silent sickness to it's victims, and it will creep up on you and
eat your lunch before you know it has happened!

Please Dolf, call a shrink today and talk with them, show them some of
your posts. Get well Dolf, we are rooting for you!"

Carl McCluskey (sai...@nettally.com): "This is the delusional and sick
fantasies that reveal the mental illnesses of which you admitted before.
You are beginning to be a danger to others and frankly I hope you are
committed for your own good so you can get the medical attention you so
desperately need. The fact remains that you will pass away before your
sick fantasy comes true. Please get the medical help you need and the
medications that will bring you back to reality.

(ru) dolf: "You will remember that when you studied your geometry in
school you were told that a point was simply location or a center,
without length, breadth or thickness. Not having dimension, therefore, a
point cannot be said to be a thing {ie. POINT = 49J7W as determination
of the Sabbath Jubilee year associated to the 'oth cycle of 6D as 2184
day solar / lunar cycle recommencing each 6J = 294 x 364 or 293 x
365.2425 days on 20 March}...

"And I also related to you the Sabbaths of the land on Mount Sinai. And
the years of jubilee in the Sabbaths of years I related to you. But its
year I have not related to you ... on account of this I ordained for you
the weeks of years, and the years, and the jubilees as FORTY-NINE
JUBILEES from the days of Adam {Taken from 4 corners/ Earthy; red} until
this day and ONE WEEK AND TWO YEARS. [ie. 49J1W2D + 40 years = 49J7W
where the difference of 49.7 days occurs between the 365.2425 day
topical year and 364 day religious calendars]

And there are still forty further years [as 5W5D given 6D = 2184 days as
the 2 x 1092 days of the 'oth-'wonders and signs' as being a 3 x 364 day
solar / 3 x 354 day lunar + 30 day intercalation cycle] to learn the
commands of the LORD until they cross over the shore of the land of
Canaan {Merchant; trader; or that humbles and subdues}, crossing over
the Jordan {The river of judgment: See also the Category of
Understanding #369 = #8, #300, #2, #4, #50, #5 as 'n. Thought of
Judgment'} to its western side." [Jubilees 50:1-5]

The point within the circle occurs when radius = 1 and in the Jubilee
year 49J7W, where the circumference = 22/7 commences as #0 (ternary
number) with the new Moon on Wednesday 20 March Equinox and on every 364
x 294 or 365.2425 x 293 days thereafter. The last of 1996 CE as grafting
into the 6D cycle and the determination of an Infinity Loop made in
relation to a rational cosmological understanding intrinsic to God
having given Moses two tablets of stone written with the finger of God.
The point within the circle also plays a role in German Philosopher
Heidegger's (1889�1976) cogito as the starting point of philosophy and
the pervasiveness of the hermeneutic circle and Aboriginal protests
against the mistreatment of Jews in pre-war Nazi Germany made to the
German consol general in Melbourne on 15 December 1938.

That aboriginal art conception of vast distance, their land and
cosmology demonstrates, if one considers the designation of the year
into seven portions:

ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragrammation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number
(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206
BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9�+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day and ipso facto 25
March) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and
substantiation of Christian identity.

A preservation of a rational natural and common law mind by nomadic
peoples--And that the usage of the latin term Terra Nullus cannot then
be used and understood as claimed in 1770 by Captain James Cook as
meaning that Terra Australis was "land belonging to no one" or
unoccupied land which was subsequent by Letters Patent of 1901 (since
revoked by new Letters Patent of 21 August 1984) as Terra Formus into
the Commonwealth of Australia."

Carl McCluskey (sai...@nettally.com): "I see you haven't had any success
arresting anyone at Hotmail nor any place else as you threatened. Empty
threats are typical from you. You need psychiatric counseling for the
mental illnesses of which you admitted. I doubt you were ever a sworn
officer. You are probably lying about that as well."

(ru) dolf: "In fact, continues Albert Pike, a point is nothing
materially speaking. It cannot be proven by any physical sense for no
one has ever seen or felt, heard, smelt or tasted a point. Yet we know
that it is the beginning of Geometry and while its very existence cannot
be 'proved' to the senses we are positive that it does exist, because
all geometrical operations must start from it. Were there no point,
neither line, surface nor solid could be produced. It is the foundation
upon which the three physical dimensions must stand." [THE POINT WITHIN
A CIRCLE -- General Albert Pike, A Masonic Study, p 2]

Marjorie Grene admits that when she studied in Germany, she was taken
with Heidegger but that quickly changed: "By 1934, . . I was thoroughly
disillusioned with all these �deep meanings�. It was out of necessity�or
sheer historical contingency, which is a kind of necessity�that I
returned to Heidegger�s work and to literature in some ways akin to it,
in other words, to what is called continental as distinct from
analytical philosophy: [The Grapple Virtual Cube resolves the
incommensurate dichotomy of bi-polar duality as necessity to homoios
sapiental reality. By it you can have (like holding one's breath), can
master tantrum and lifespan of man.] Since I had studied with Heidegger,
and the following year with Jaspers, I was asked to write about these
people when they came into vogue among us after the war. And since I had
lost my job and was tied down by farm and family so that I couldn�t
wander off looking for another position, I thought I should do whatever
I was asked to do that was in any way philosophical, in order not to get
lost altogether from any contact with my profession. Every time I wrote
about the stuff, I said, �.Ugh, never again'�.

[Coray was up a tree when I finished my spinal lumbar puncture listening
to radio Nova lyrics 'Come down, come down' to which I was interfaced.
His torment is only just starting! He will [otherwise] never recover.]

About Heidegger and his discussion of being-in-the-world, Grene offers a
little praise, but not very much: Heidegger�s discussion, Grene sees, as
making a �move against the cogito as the starting point of philosophy?�
and he appropriately stresses the pervasiveness of the hermeneutic
circle but Heidegger is a contorted �jungle of neologisms�.

I've put the bi-polar and tree comments on google archives and made in
response to internet vitriol as crime on the suggestion I am mental
health impaired and ought to seek medical help. I was in fact under a
voluntary diagnostic medical proceedure as CT assisted lumbar puncture
whilst technically discharged following 3 weeks observation by a mental
health reception facility. It is my hope that the police will take
action against such unrestrained internet based religious hate speech.

Worse than the arbitrary and unintelligible style is the fact that
Heidegger�s human being �is as disembodied as any Cartesian mind could
be� and the fact that there is a �deep connection between that account
and Heidegger�s undoubted Nazism or fanatical German nationalism. . .�.
It is true, I suppose, that she is somewhat more sympathetic to the
early than the late Heidegger whose writing she simply dubs �appalling
nonsense�!

I bought Muse's 'The Resistance' CD today: Be what you want when you go
through my door.

Grene is only a little less harsh with Sartre�s ideas about
being-in-the-world and, more generally, with Being and Nothingness:
�Like Hume�s Treatise, it is one of the transcendent works of our
philosophical tradition which show how, given inadequate premises, a
particular movement of thought works itself into an impassable dead end�.

I'm discharged with a flexible 6 month community based treatment
program. The magistrate acknowledged by my contesting presumption, I was
intelligent, had insight and my thinking of the last 12 years was on 23
September 2009 fixed and unlikely to change given the weight and
coherence of my writing which he read. I tested the notion of
presumption at the tribunal hearing because whilst the MRI showed some
results which can be explained by lifestyle, the science is still out on
the viral load spike of only 5650 and whether the cerebral fluid has
equivalent if any. That I am having my HAN autonomic natural and common
law rights impuged by medical hysteria.

In a Quadrant, July- August 2009 article titled 'The Assault on ANZAC:
The Legend and the Left' and in the earlier edition (June 2009) article:
'Gallipoli: Second Front in the History Wars', James Cook University
Senior Lecturer Dr. Mervyn F. Bendle discusses the revisionist attack on
the history of Gallipoli and the role it has played as the central
component of the ANZAC tradition in Australia. And asserts that it "is
impossible to avoid the conclusion that the constant reiteration of
terms like 'militarist', 'masculinist', 'imperialist', 'nationalistic',
'racist', and 'ruling class', with reference to the ANZAC legend serves
mainly to obscure the absence of genuine thought or research by these
writers, and masks the fact that a great deal of their work is either
highly subjective and anecdotal or simply ideological verbiage. It is
especially notable that very few of the intellectuals discussed above
situate their assessment of the ANZAC legend within any analysis of the
origins, course, real and potential outcomes of the Great War (or the
other conflicts in which Australia has been involved), preferring to
adhere to their nihilist premises that the war was pointless, wrong or
immoral."

But, as I have noted above, Grene thinks Merleau-Ponty is an enormously
important thinker who, like Polanyi, tries to redirect the philosophical
tradition. She did not study Merleau-Ponty until 1960-61, after she had
been working with Polanyi on Personal Knowledge (1958), but when she did
read The Phenomenology of Perception what she found was a companion
piece to Personal Knowledge: �. . . Merleau-Ponty�s book seemed to me to
convey the same message, but in the opposite order, and in a language
that I could both understand and use (or so it seemed at the time)�.
[Phil Mullins, Vintage Marjorie Grene (d. 16 March 2009): A Review Essay
on A Philosophical Testament Professor Marjorie Grene]

Bendle points out that this campaign to similarly blight the ANZAC
tradition by its 'contempt for colored people and foreigners generally
[and indigenous Dutch Australians specifically], for minority views, for
art, literature, culture and learning; and something not far from
contempt ... for 'good' women and brutal disdain for 'bad ones', is
explicitly being undertaken by the intelligentsia and the Left as we
approach the twin centennials commemorating the outbreak of the Great
War in 2014 and the Gallipoli landing 2015.

"To redefine our definition of Aussie Girl (tm) a little further, we are
focussing upon that particular brand of Australian lady who has an
'opinion'. More precisely, she has an 'opinion' that must be broadcast
aloud, must not be supported by any logic and is assumed to be of
critical significance to anyone within earshot (normally a 500 metre
radius around the speaker). A fool cum philosopher. Are they a specific
breed or confined to a certain class? Sadly, no."

And describes the objectives of his article as follows: "I describe the
basic revisionist approach and review many examples of it by prominent
and influential academics and others; I provide an historical context in
which this antagonism can be best understood; and finally I emphasize
how gratuitous, grotesque and ahistorical these attacks are, especially
when viewed against the background of the real threat that Australia and
our allies faced during the Great War, when so many young men fought
gallantly, sacrificed themselves and gave birth to the ANZAC legend."

Their name is legion, their number only limited by the sea shells that
litter the shores from which they craft their "oh they're so cute"
seashell bangles, presumably in remedial arts classes for the terminally
limited. Aussie girls' voices should sound like air raid sirens yet more
painful and much more frightening. The volume and pitch of transmission
to their assembled entourage is excruciating. However, if you dare to
decipher the crux of their voluminous debate, if you attempt to unravel
the thread of their argument, you will find that your mental anguish far
outweighs any physical discomfort."

The basic dichotomizing model attributed to the revisionist version of
the ANZAC legend has two main components:

1) Some perfunctory recognition is initially given to the bravery of
Australian troops who fought in the Great War and other wars and to the
qualities traditionally associated with the legend. Revisionists
apparently feel they cannot (yet) dispense with this token acknowledgement;

2) The revisionist emphasis however is on the second component of the
model, which is always critical, debunking and even denunciatory of the
legend, applying a form of methodical nihilism to allege that at the
core of the ANZAC legend there is nothing--only meaninglessness,
futility, error, 'a nightmare happening in a void' as George Orwell
remarked of Great War Literature. Alternatively, if there is something
at the core of the legend, it is shown by the revisionist to be
unworthy, wicked and iniquitous--militarism, imperialism, colonialism,
racism, sexism, masculinism--and therefore can and must be condemned and
ridiculed.

#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
Universal Law}, which contains the law of that will:

7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to
the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +

#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the
law:

x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +

#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos ('achariyth
as 122J3W1D) = Arch (re'shiyth as 3W1D) + c� [9(9�+1)/2]:

has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on {ie.
20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th solar
month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri
5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the [21st
priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes steadfast} on
the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th solar month."
[4Q321]] +

#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature = Formula
of Progression of individual phenomena: #1 = {0: 1} + #2 = {0: -1, 1: 1}
+ #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0, 2: 1}}

vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}

A description of the revisionist approach has recently been provided in
the new edition of The Oxford Companion to Australian Military History
(2008), and it follows this pattern. While it initially concedes that
the ANZACs were brave, they are nevertheless presented as pawns who were
dragged into someone else's war and betrayed by the incompetence of the
'British military establishment who, contemptuous of the lives of mere
colonials, sacrificed them in the futile Gallipoli campaign and as shock
troops on the Western Front.

"Fortunately, Aussie Girl has devolved to such an extent, she has lost
the use of most consonants so that her monotone is delivered as a
high-pitched screech that meanders between a wail and a drawl. Gather
two of them at a table and they sound like Kookaburras with
megaphones...but make less sense." [Jamie Hilton, From the Back of
Beyond, The Whingeing POM -- The Expat Bites Back, July-August 2009, p 112]

The war achieved nothing, and far from proving Australian nationhood,
actually demonstrated Australian subservience.' This revisionist version
is closely associated with the Left, and appeals to those 'who came of
age during or after the Vietnam era', and share a 'suspicion of overseas
military entanglements', associated especially with the United States,
and exemplified recently by the war in Iraq. While it is noted that this
version 'has been criticized as grotesque, even ahistorical', this has
not stopped it from being increasingly influential, especially when it
is augmented with the other elements of leftist ideology that already
dominate intellectual culture." [Mervyn F. Bendle, The Assault on ANZAC,
Quadrant July-August 2009, p 7]

Maybe the blokes are the smart ones. Focused and intent; able, with the
liberal application of alcohol, to silently weather the storm of worldly
wisdom that Courtenay has brillantly distilled from the hallowed pages
of New Idea and Ok magazine. The Aussie Males' (tm) bible is Ralph and
Zoo which, perhaps more honestly, consistently preach on the same theme:
'let them talk until they have exhausted themselves, then move in for
the root--RATHER YOU THAN ME, MATE." [Jamie Hilton, From the Back of
Beyond, The Whingeing POM -- The Expat Bites Back, July-August 2009, p 112]

A variation of the 22/7 {= 3.1428571...} equation as rational PI
computation and the 364 day cycle from the DATE(1996,3,20) + (5 * 364) +
182 days = Wednesday DATE(2001,9,12) gives the Equinox of Saturday
DATE(2001,9,23) as commencing the Sabbath year and the reprise
associated to the following schema as a transcendent negation of the
Gregorian cycle of 400 years as the basis for replacement theology,
which is as 146097 days evenly divisible by seven:

#0 MOD 22 = 22 [#TAU / #400] as 4000 BCE
#400 MOD 22 = 17 [#PE / #80]
#800 MOD 22 = 12 [#LAMED / #30]
#1200 MOD 22 = 7 [#ZAYIN / #7]
#1600 MOD 22 = 2 [#BETH / #2]
#2000 MOD 22 = 19 [#QOPH / #100]
#2400 MOD 22 = 14 [#NUN / #50]
#2800 MOD 22 = 9 [#TETH / #9]
#3200 MOD 22 = 4 [#DALETH / #4]
#3600 MOD 22 = 21 [#SHIN / #300]
#4000 MOD 22 = 16 [#'AYIN / #70] = #0 CE as HETEROS autonomic
transformative prototype and symbolic associator to series #15, #34,
#65, #111, #175, #260, #369 ... #2000 Y2K

#4400 MOD 22 = 11 [#KAF / #20] = #400 CE
#4800 MOD 22 = 6 [#VAV / #6] = #800 CE
#5200 MOD 22 = 1 [#ALEPH / #1] = #1200 CE
#5600 MOD 22 = 18 [#TSADE / #90] = #1600 CE
#6000 MOD 22 = 13 [#MEM / #40] = #2000 Y2K / Equinox of DATE(1996,3,20)
/ @ (21 March = 1 Nisan) + (5 * 364) + 182 days = Wednesday
DATE(2001,9,12) with Equinox of Saturday DATE(2001,9,23) commencing the
Sabbath year of 'oth cycle has #369 with Septet #41 centric on 13-17
September 2001 / @ 18 September = 1 Tishri 5762.

Telos ('achariyth as 122J3W1D or 6,000 topical years) = Arch (re'shiyth
as 3W1D) + c� [9(9�+1)/2]

#6400 MOD 22 = 8 [#CHET / #8]
#6800 MOD 22 = 3 [#GIMEL / #3]
#7200 MOD 22 = 20 [#RESH / #200]
#7600 MOD 22 = 15 [#SAMEK / #60]
#8000 MOD 22 = 10 [#YOD / #10]
#8400 MOD 22 = 5 [#HE / #5]
#8800 MOD 22 = 22 [#TAU / #400] as 8800 CE

One who rebukes his fellow should not (at the start) speak with him so
harshly that he shames him, as it is stated, '[You shall surely rebuke
your fellow] and you shall not bear upon him a sin' (Leviticus 19:17).
So [too] did the Sages say, 'I might think you must rebuke him [while]
his face is turning colors, [the verse] comes to teach us, 'and you
shall not bear upon him a sin' (Talmud Erchin 16b). From here [we see]
that it is forbidden to shame a Jew, all the more so in public.

"Even though one who shames his fellow does not receive lashes, it is a
terrible sin. So did the Sages say, 'One who shames (lit., 'makes
white') the face of his fellow... has no share in the World to Come'
(Pirkei Avos 3:15). Therefore, one must be careful in this matter --
that he not embarrass his fellow publicly, whether a small or great
[person]. And he should not call him a name which shames him, nor should
he speak before him about a matter which embarrasses him.

"When does all of this apply? In matters between a person and his
fellow. But in matters of heaven if he did not repent [after you rebuked
him] privately, we shame him publicly, we publicize his sin, we execrate
him to his face, and we disgrace and curse him until he returns to the
better -- as did all the Prophets to Israel." [(c) 2009 By Rabbi Dovid
Rosenfeld, Crying Out, Project Genesis 2009.8.10]

(ru) dolf: "This is of particular merit with respects to Victorian Civil
and Administrative Tribunal reasons for decisions dated 29 March 2001
AND Grounds for an extra-ordinary hearing of 7 December 2001 relating to
several telephone calls made by me to Legal Counsel for the Insurer (AXA
Group Insurance) on 30 November 2001:

"Peter Riddell, this is Dolf Boek calling. I'm just wondering whether
you've been self-congratulatory about my previous submissions to the
court and have failed to recognize their transcendent lodgings built on
time. A religious model that co-ordinates or synchronizes over six
thousand years to the 9th of September of this year [2001]. That means
when this year expires, my court case will be a matter of an accusation
of fascism against yourself and the company, from which I will not cease
until I have your soul. You may return this message if you like-XXXX.
You have until the end of this year and then I will never again turn my
hand against the action that I'm going to take, meaning I will conclude
it till one of us goes to the grave."
"Peter Riddell, Dolf Boek. You do realize that if you're not prepared to
come clean with your justifications of your past treatment of me, that
as of the new year, we will not be having another contract because I
will not be co-operating with you further and we will actually go to
court at some stage mate. At some stage you are going to have to
recognize the fact that you are a blasphemer. Your religious context has
no continuing validity and since I'm able to rationally prove that with
a mathematical model, you're going to understand how forceful and hard
metaphysics is."
In support of that prosecution, we introduce here the notion of our
Project Biblos as a consideration that the vCube GRAPPLE HOMOIOTIC
NOUMENON is a technology embedded within the BIBLE and have since
demonstrated that in the production of BIBLE based categories with
STRONGS numbering.

As producing some 26,000 lines of Javascript semantic data OBJECT of
such direct HEBREW and GREEK language association between all the
categories of the mathematical vCube {totalCategories: 400, totalCount:
24102} and the Bible.

We've reached a point within our Biblos Project (for Apple Safari 4.03
for Windows or Macintosh) where we have tested and successfully
implemented the dynamic morphing of some 1200+ pages of textual
narrative containing both HEBREW and GREEK STRONG'S references, which
have, then been melded by <span> tag reference as dynamic natural
associator to the Grapple vCube framework.

Having accomplished this, we'll next modify the gizmoCHAT () function to
deploy a similar strategy .split('\n') and .split(' ') as approaches to
parsing textual narrative and from which the essential memetic recipe
for the horologism as cognitive element is obtained.

Following that, we'll create a queuing mechanism with vCube:(Zen, Row,
Col), Portal_id and GrappleFORM referencing by which a timerproc () can
then make a XMLhttpRequest() for the data and then Intelligently
evaluate and render the returned discrete javascript object within the
correct document location.

What I am particularly interested in exploring further here, is the
capacity to use the temporal steeping linkages of the dynamic natural
associators to categories of understanding obtained from the gizmoCHAT()
function and the psychosomatic data implied by the phone message
time/date stamping and using this bio-dynamic data in our expansion of
the Biblical narrative.

Notions such as "essential memetic recipe for the horologism as
cognitive element is obtained" and "psychosomatic data implied by the
phone message time/date stamping and using this bio-dynamic data in our
expansion of the Biblical narrative" as the cause for a Middle Eastern
(Israeli-HEBREW/Palestinian-ARABIC) centre of TECHNOLOGY EXCELLENCE lays
in the semiotic basis to their respective languages.

Sharon Begley as author of 'Train Your Mind, Change Your Brain', in
24-31 August 2009 edition of Newsweek page 26 says: "imagining the
invisible hand of a supernatural agent in acts of randomness, as in
'answered' prayers; and conjuring what anthropologist Pascal Boyer of
Washington University calls 'non-physical present agents.'

We use the same circuitry to envision 'what if' scenarios about our
pasts or futures as we do to imagine angels and demons. Yet scientists
have invoked both the fear of death and the fact that normal mental
processes predispose us to belief in the supernatural to explain the
near universality of religious faith down through the ages. (Of course,
humans might believe in God because a deity designed that belief into
our brains, but that hypothesis is not amenable to scientific
investigation.) But there's nothing like facts to spoil a good story
[such as Daniel Daly's The Chronicles of the Children of Destiny, which
is a fictional saga spanning the lives of the Children and Angels of
God. [Once upon a premise as the notion of time] God created �Home�
first of all, where his first son �Metatron� lived with the soon two
other created beings � the two �Word�s� of God, the �Logos� and the
�Memra� � male and female. God himself lived at home from time to time
with Metatron, Logos and Memra.

And then came the first of the realms, the Realm of Heaven, in which the
precious 70 children of God, the firstborn of which were Adam and Eve,
came to live. After Heaven came the Realm of Infinity, where the first
70 Onaphim angels of God came to be. Logos watches over the realm of
Infinity. And then came forth the Realm of Eternity, where the 140
Seraphim Angels came to be born. Finally, Earth, and the physical
universe, where the children and Angels of God ultimately meet up and
intertwine in their eternal destiny."]

For instance, the brain has a region, the parietal lobe, that detects
where our body physically ends and the larger world begins. But this
circuitry can be silenced by intense prayer or meditation,
neuroscientist Andrew Newberg has found, producing a sense of oneness
with the cosmos or God." [(Un) wired for God, Newsweek, 24-31 August 2009]

dolf

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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:35:44 GMT, dolf <dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

What dressing would monsieur like for his word salad?

>That given recent European questions of Microsoft's propriety towards
>the STATE, and of course the representation of the natural and common
>law definition of MARRIAGE in our legislation, raises a question of the
>suitable adoption of an information economy using the vCube Grapple
>Homoiotic Noumenon as the core fore staging values, beliefs and
>psychosomatic framework for autonomic, corporate and states based
>governance within the Commonwealth.
>
>I am in superannuated retirement and a recipient of salary continuance
>benevolence on the basis of religious, racial and sexual vilification
>made in relation to HIV acquired as symptomatic of post traumatic stress
>after a bomb blast incident in proximity during a period of police
>service as oath of office sworn before the revoking of the 1900 letters
>patent to the Australian commonwealth and concerning a subsequent
>contract of employment which whilst including an AIDS exclusion clause
>also imposes a definition of marriage--as breaching my Intellectual
>Property, natural and common law right.
>
>This particular intellectual property (ie. able to be held in mind) as
>spatial reality and association made to temporal cognitive elements is
>what I describe to the mind in time/space as being physically strapped
>into a gyroscope and twisting about.
>
>I have on 3 November 2008 provided a letter as preliminary instructions
>to my lawyers with respect to proceeding with a warrant for the arrest

>of Mr. Michael D�Argaville and the Panel Chair Mr. Michael Arnold over

>the claim of Treason against the Sovereign Autonomic Right under the

>Commonwealth occasioning deferral to the Federal Government�s August

>2004 amendments to the definition of Marriage as slander and the denial
>of justice by the Financial Industry Complaints Service Limited (now

>Financial Ombudsman Service �FOS�) in relation to religious, racial and
>sexual vilification.
>
>Our intention is to pursue Mr. Michael D�Argaville and the Panel Chair

>Heidegger's (1889�1976) cogito as the starting point of philosophy and

>the pervasiveness of the hermeneutic circle and Aboriginal protests
>against the mistreatment of Jews in pre-war Nazi Germany made to the
>German consol general in Melbourne on 15 December 1938.
>
>That aboriginal art conception of vast distance, their land and
>cosmology demonstrates, if one considers the designation of the year
>into seven portions:
>
>
>
>ONE: 1, 2, 3
>TWO: 0, 3, 6
>THREE: 0, 9, 18
>FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragrammation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number
>(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206
>BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]

>FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9�+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things

>disillusioned with all these �deep meanings�. It was out of necessity�or
>sheer historical contingency, which is a kind of necessity�that I
>returned to Heidegger�s work and to literature in some ways akin to it,

>in other words, to what is called continental as distinct from
>analytical philosophy: [The Grapple Virtual Cube resolves the
>incommensurate dichotomy of bi-polar duality as necessity to homoios
>sapiental reality. By it you can have (like holding one's breath), can
>master tantrum and lifespan of man.] Since I had studied with Heidegger,
>and the following year with Jaspers, I was asked to write about these
>people when they came into vogue among us after the war. And since I had

>lost my job and was tied down by farm and family so that I couldn�t

>wander off looking for another position, I thought I should do whatever
>I was asked to do that was in any way philosophical, in order not to get
>lost altogether from any contact with my profession. Every time I wrote

>about the stuff, I said, �.Ugh, never again'�.


>
>[Coray was up a tree when I finished my spinal lumbar puncture listening
>to radio Nova lyrics 'Come down, come down' to which I was interfaced.
>His torment is only just starting! He will [otherwise] never recover.]
>
>About Heidegger and his discussion of being-in-the-world, Grene offers a

>little praise, but not very much: Heidegger�s discussion, Grene sees, as
>making a �move against the cogito as the starting point of philosophy?�

>and he appropriately stresses the pervasiveness of the hermeneutic

>circle but Heidegger is a contorted �jungle of neologisms�.


>
>I've put the bi-polar and tree comments on google archives and made in
>response to internet vitriol as crime on the suggestion I am mental
>health impaired and ought to seek medical help. I was in fact under a
>voluntary diagnostic medical proceedure as CT assisted lumbar puncture
>whilst technically discharged following 3 weeks observation by a mental
>health reception facility. It is my hope that the police will take
>action against such unrestrained internet based religious hate speech.
>
>Worse than the arbitrary and unintelligible style is the fact that

>Heidegger�s human being �is as disembodied as any Cartesian mind could
>be� and the fact that there is a �deep connection between that account
>and Heidegger�s undoubted Nazism or fanatical German nationalism. . .�.

>It is true, I suppose, that she is somewhat more sympathetic to the

>early than the late Heidegger whose writing she simply dubs �appalling
>nonsense�!


>
>I bought Muse's 'The Resistance' CD today: Be what you want when you go
>through my door.
>

>Grene is only a little less harsh with Sartre�s ideas about

>being-in-the-world and, more generally, with Being and Nothingness:

>�Like Hume�s Treatise, it is one of the transcendent works of our

>philosophical tradition which show how, given inadequate premises, a

>particular movement of thought works itself into an impassable dead end�.

>piece to Personal Knowledge: �. . . Merleau-Ponty�s book seemed to me to

>convey the same message, but in the opposite order, and in a language

>that I could both understand and use (or so it seemed at the time)�.

>as 122J3W1D) = Arch (re'shiyth as 3W1D) + c� [9(9�+1)/2]:

>as 3W1D) + c� [9(9�+1)/2]

>God. [Once upon a premise as the notion of time] God created �Home�
>first of all, where his first son �Metatron� lived with the soon two
>other created beings � the two �Word�s� of God, the �Logos� and the
>�Memra� � male and female. God himself lived at home from time to time

The Chief Instigator

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...and he's proud of it, reality be damned.

--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Manitoba 3, Houston 1 (May 25: Moose advance, 4-2)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 2 at Manitoba, 7:35

duke

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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:40:14 GMT, "alt.atheism regulator" <"alt.atheism
regulator"@monitor.net> wrote:

>duke wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:59:02 GMT, "alt.atheism regulator" <"alt.atheism
>> regulator"@monitor.net> wrote:
>>
>>> CHARTER: alt.atheism
>>
>>> An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a
>>> forum for the discussion of all aspects
>>> of atheism.
>>
>> And it's errors.
>>
>> The Dukester, American-American
>> *****
>> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>> Pope Paul VI
>> *****

>Document and submit them Duke!

The average atheist is the most ignorant and stupid person in his ng. He has no
idea what Christianity represents, no idea what the bible says, and has no idea
what a Christian believes.

>Unlike the old, rigged AQOTM witchunt,
>the FAQ is Fair and Balanced. ;-)

But not the atheists.

>It is time atheists stood up proudly and let the world
>see their work for what it is;
>Kill Jesus

See what I mean.

duke

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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:01 +0200, Government Shill #2 <gov....@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:14:38 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:59:02 GMT, "alt.atheism regulator" <"alt.atheism
>>regulator"@monitor.net> wrote:
>>
>>>CHARTER: alt.atheism
>>
>>>An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a
>>>forum for the discussion of all aspects
>>>of atheism.
>>
>>And it's errors.
>
>Such as? And no using quotes from your fairy tale book.

You can't tell me what I can use to show you your pure unadulterated ignorance
and stupidity.

Government Shill #2

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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:53:08 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:01 +0200, Government Shill #2 <gov....@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:14:38 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:59:02 GMT, "alt.atheism regulator" <"alt.atheism
>>>regulator"@monitor.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>CHARTER: alt.atheism
>>>
>>>>An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a
>>>>forum for the discussion of all aspects
>>>>of atheism.
>>>
>>>And it's errors.
>>
>>Such as? And no using quotes from your fairy tale book.
>
>You can't tell me what I can use to show you your pure unadulterated ignorance
>and stupidity.


Ignorance is a prerequisite for "Belief".

dolf

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Its fabulous isn't it?

Judicial Corruption Australia

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>> "I don't care what you fuckers think".
>

Senate.Enquiries.update.31July2009.web.pdf
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B2aSuWg5-JMZNTk3OGU2NGQtYTc2MS00ZjI3LTlkZTItZDliMzAyMWI0ZjJl&hl=en


http://www.change.org/actions/view/request_that_un_committee_on_elimination_of_racism_to_prosecute_white_racist_nations_incl_australia

http://iwitness.x24hr.com/judicial_corruption/index.php?/topic/2880-strawman-arguments-expose-australian-senate-legal-and-constitutional-affairs-standing-committee/#mytop

https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/07/435415.html

Palais Wilson - 52, rue des P�quis, CH-1201, Geneva, Switzerland


Mailing address: UNOG-OHCHR, CH-1211 Geneva 10, Switzerland

Joyce Fucio,
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Discrimination
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Tel. +41.22.917.94.09 - Fax +41.22.917.90.22
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> alt.atheism.FAQ

This shit wasn't written by an atheist

> Version 0.1
> Sunday 27 Sep 2009
>
> compiled by alt.atheism regulator

Who the hell is that?

> 4.7.12 What is a "Wanker"...
>


You are.

alt.atheism regulator

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alt.atheism.FAQ

Version 0.2
1 Oct 2009

compiled by alt.atheism regulator
Contributions and corrections welcome via NG


CONTENTS:
==========

1.0 - Welcome

2.0 - What's New

3.0 - The Charter

4.0 - Frequently Asked Questions.

4.1 What is alt.atheism?

4.2 - What is a atheism?( WIP)
4.2.1 Some definitions

4.3 - History of the NG (WIP)

4.4 - Who are the Key Figures In Atheism (WIP)
4.4.1 Modern Atheists

4.5 Atheism as part of Non-Belief

4.6 Atheism in History

4.7 Common terms

4.8 Where can I find archived messages?

4.9 Who moderates alt.atheism?

4.10 Resources

5.0 - Contributors

6.0 - Additions / Amendments to the FAQ

1.0 WELCOME
=============

Welcome to alt.atheism, an open, unmoderated newsgroup
for the discussion of all topics relating to
atheism in an open forum dedicated to
Free Speech and rights for all.

alt.atheism Website: http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/

2.0 What's new:
=============

@ A new resources section 4.10 has been added,
the first entry is an excellent documentary on Google Video:

Atheism: Jonathan Miller - A Brief History of Disbelief

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3162184064060187674#


@ A Humour section 4.11 Atheist Humour will soon be added,


@ a gossip section 2.1 What's the Haps Around the Traps, Chaps?
has been added for recent and upcoming events;

Fluffy threw a Hissy fit and asked Google to
stop people reporting what he said:


# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats and
# not in a girly way.

Suffering from IDD (Irony Deficit Disorder), Fluffy
complained that REPORTING WHAT HE SAID, VERBATIM,
was 'abuse'.. and it was making him very very sad,
and could someone please stop them doing it!

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Atheist Kooks: Sociopath shifts blame to others
# for their mistakes Re: A.A. Steve Knight checking in to Bellevue
# Message-ID: <1jivb5dparaegkqht...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:32:49 -0700
#
# FAQ pages for alt.atheism could land you in court.
#
# I reported you to Google abuse
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA


Google Laughed and asked him if he would accept
Jesus in his life, because it might be the only way
he could GET ONE!

The Knights of BAAWA realised they had bought a dud,
and decided to replace Fluffy as Warlord, with a
Magic 8-Ball after tests showed it outperformed
him in leadership, intelligence and more accurately
shitting down peoples throats, and it only cost 8 bucks!

Warlord MaJik8 was Interviewed after winning the job;


a.a: "Do you have any any words for the defeated ex-Warlord?"

MaJik8:

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp329/adholmes0428/My%20Stuff/Magic8BallSays.jpg

a.a: "And what do you see as the future for alt.atheism
and atheism worldwide?"

MaJik8
http://blogs.netapp.com/exposed/WindowsLiveWriter/magic-8-ball-3.jpg

Refusing to accept that it was all over for him -Ex Warlord Fluffy
made a desperate attempt to hang on to power;

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll110/ashwu_xoxo/Halloween2008/IMG_2259.jpg

Warlord MaJik8 was devastating in his assessment:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u31/DunadanLord/magic8ballsaysyoureone.jpg


Fluffy went out asking if the Blind Cricketer was still around because
he wanted to get far away, as quickly as he could.... ;-)

See "Fluffy leaves the Field":

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/

3.0 THE CHARTER
================


CHARTER: alt.atheism

An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a
forum for the discussion of all aspects
of atheism.

Possible discussions are, but not limited to:

- Union of Savage Slaughter and Repression(USSR)
- Mao's Great Leap Backwards
- Mao's Cultural Devolution
- Pol Pots Cambodian Genocide
- Nth Korea
- Atheist fundamentalism
- The decline in global Atheism
- Metaphysics.. Just kidding!
- Jesus jokes
- Hard-Core Atheist thuggery
- forging
- Slandering
- Lying
- Pack Hunting
- BAWAA

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats and
# not in a girly way.


This group will be unmoderated.
Binary postings, chain letters and unrelated
commercial advertisements are prohibited.

Cross-posting should not be discouraged.

Knowledge is Holistic, Users should exercise their
judgement as to which NGs are relevant

4.0 FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
================================

4.1 What is alt.atheism?

alt.atheism is the Internet network news forum
for discussing atheism

4.2 - What is a atheism? ( WIP)

Here are some starting points, feel free to
submit/discuss your own:


4.2.1 Definition

1. "The Doctrine that their is no God"
2. "A Disbelief in the existence of a God (or gods)
3. Godlessness

The Macquarie Dictionary (2nd Revised edition) 1989

4.2.2 Some Individual Perspectives:


Send us your views.


4.2.2.1 Historical Atheism:

"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."


- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

Atheist States

# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
#
# "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia�s Buddhist religion:
# monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
# Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
# other religious sentiments were often killed.
# ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
# and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
# and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
# starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
# prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
# instead of the family.
#
# About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot�s regime."
# - http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
#
# The Cambodian Genocide:
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg

#
# "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
# regarded by the regime as social parasites,
# were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
# Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
# destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
# Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
# rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
# or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
# were often killed.
#
# The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
# persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
# Phnom Penh was completely razed.
#
# The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
# regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
# Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
# - http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
#
# "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
# because of their religion."
#
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/44camboyano.jpg
#
#
# "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
# - Daniel Peris,
# "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
# Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
#
#
# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
# - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
# Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4.3- History of the NG

Achievements:


Goals:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4.4 - Who are the Key Figures in Atheism (WIP)


4.4.1 Modern Atheists

Lenin

Mao

Stalin

Pol Pot

Kim ill Fuk

Kim ill Suk

Richard Dawkins

Christopher Hitchens

Fluffy the BAWAA Warlord{Snigger)

BAWAA Nights

http://www.computerpranks.com/download/images/sheep_guy.jpg


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4.5 Atheism as a minority sub-group of Non-Belief

# Highlights: US religious majority: 80%
#
# Atheists 2.3% worldwide
# 0.7% in the USA
#
#
# American Religious Identification Survey, Summary Report March 2009:
#
# "Self-identification of U.S. Adult Population by Religious Tradition
#
# 2001 2008
#
# Non- religious 29,481,000 (14.1%) 34,169,000 (15%)
#
# Religious 167,254,000 (80%) 182,198,000 (80%)
#
# Agnostics 991,000 (0.5%) 1,985,000 (0.9%)
#
# Atheists 902,000 (0.4%) 1,621,000 (0.7%)
#

#
# 'NON-RELIGIOUS' DOES NOT = ATHEIST
#
# Atheism is

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
4.6 Atheism in History (WIP)

Epicurus

Hypatia

Not Much Happening for millennia

No great and enduring civilisations

20th Century Atheist States

USSR

Maoist China

Pol Pots Cambodia

Nth Korea

Albania?

Russell

Dawkins

Hitchins

Bus Ads


In May 2009, their support waning and their numbers dwindling
to a mere handful, the BAWAA faction decided to emulate the
historical political structure of the infamous Atheist states
of the the 20th Century and chose a Warlord to control their
thoughts and actions See Fluffy

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4.7 Common terms

4.7.1 What is "BAWAA"

A cult formed around a self-appointed 'Warlord'

Like the priesthood, they are dying out, for
much the same reasons ;-)

4.7.2 What is a Baaa Baaa Waa Waaa Night

Here are two of them, they are interchangable

http://www.computerpranks.com/download/images/sheep_guy.jpg


4.7.3 What is "Blind Cricket"

Fluffy goes sub-orbital

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/

4.7.4 What is ad-hom


'ad-hom', a contraction for 'ad-hominem argument',
means literally 'argument against the man'.
In alt.atheism ad-hom is synonymous with 'abuse'.
This is in distinction to the formal meaning of
ad-hominem argument in which the truth or falsity
of a proposition is said to follow from the source
of the proposition.


4.7.5 What does "fasgnadh" mean

"Sorting the Wheat from the Chaff"
separating the worthy from the unworthy.

4.7.6 What is post forgery
The unconscionable alteration of text and attributions
to make the posters words appear to be attributed to
their victim See Syd Slander and Virgil

4.7.7 What is a Killfile?

The standard tactic for atheists to avoid questions they
can't answer, arguments too rational for them to rebut
and their major method of Running Away

4.7.8 What is Snip'n'Run

Snipping all of the opponents text and saying nothing

4.7.9 What is the future for alt.atheism

A Retiring Atheists view

# "The Kooks and assholes are way louder and more visible
# it is getting to me lately.
#
# The kooks are stupid but tedious and boring with it
# -not even "kooky" in an entertaining - fun to poke at - way.
#
# There are no decent arguments"
#
# Subject: The Decline of alt atheism - and time to say farewell.
# From: Richo <m.richa...@gmail.com>
# Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:59:09 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID:
<acbca475-4901-4b6d...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com>


4.7.10 What is a "Drongo", "fruit loop", "Boofhead", "Bozo", "mullet",

"nong", "rabbit" ..an idiot cf: Virgil

4.7.11 What is an "Ankle-biter"

- a (small) child
(cf: apprentice Baaa Baaa Waaa Waaa Nought ;-)


4.7.12 What is a "Wanker"

- someone prone to self-abuse,
often in public. eg: Bukakke

4.7.13 What Does A.A. stand for in a D=Subject header

Atheists Anonymous. So many of the BAWAA faction
are Atheists in recovery that ther "Warlord", Fluffy,
declared

# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We're here to talk about our own personal issues as atheists

Some of the atheists with remaining brain function said this was
what Therapists were for and should not be inflicted on the NG.

As a compromise the BAWAA faction accepted that all their posts
would carry the A.A. warning in the Subject header..sort of
like a Lepers Bell, for the benefit of those weary of Atheist Angst.

"
4.7.14 Who or What is "Warlord MaJik8

B^D That's a Funny story!

After Fluffy left us, the BAWAA faction wondered if they
would be better led by a Magic 8-Ball, they asked one and
it replied:

http://www.plusnothing.com/images/wp/magic-8-ball.jpg


4.7.15

4.7.16


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4.8. Where can I find archived messages?

Posts are archived at www.google.com.

Except for Fluffy's, he's shy.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4.9 Who moderates alt.atheism?

No-one. This is an unmoderated NG.
Anyone is free to post here within the defamation,
libel and vilification laws of the land

This was the founding principle of USENET and is supported,
at least in principle, by most people who value freedom

"The Universal Declaration of Human Rights turns 60 next week
and, as the founding document for all international human rights
treaties, it has played an important legal and intellectual
role for the past 60 years.

We are all free to believe, think and speak
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=HmHS-bSIH9g

"Human right # 18

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience
and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or
belief, and freedom, either alone or in community, with others
and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in
teaching, practice, worship and observance."
- The Universal Declaration of Human Rights


Which of these people don't have rights?
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ixjACBvv2mE

No one can take them away
http://www.youthforhumanrights.org/watchads/view/psa30_h.html

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4.10 Resources

An excellent documentary on Google Video:

Atheism: Jonathan Miller - A Brief History of Disbelief

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3162184064060187674#

5.0 CONTRIBUTORS
================

fasgnadh -Comic Inspiration
Morton Lucifer -FAQ creator
Steve Knight - Playing with Swords and stuff
Ritcho - Showing Atheists the way
Bukakke - Sewer Inspector
Virgil - Photocopying
Trance Stupor - zzzzzzzzzzzz

I wouldn't want to upset anyone by leaving them out


6.0 - ADDITIONS / AMENDMENTS TO THE FAQ
=======================================
Post submissions to the alt.atheism NG
with

AAA FAQ ... in the header

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>On Sep 27, 8:59�pm, "alt.atheism regulator" <"alt.atheism
>regulator"@monitor.net> wrote:
>> alt.atheism.FAQ
>
>This shit wasn't written by an atheist
>
>> Version 0.1
>> Sunday 27 Sep 2009
>>
>> compiled by alt.atheism regulator
>
>Who the hell is that?

aka "Fasgnadh", one of the more obnoxious trolls we've had in a while.

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Credits:

Fasgnadh - Dishonest imbecile
Morton Lucifer - Sock puppet
alt.atheism.regulator - Sock puppet
Warlord MaJik8 - Sock puppet

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