Calender for the Blood Red Moon
American
Is it no wonder that the Bush peace plan with Israel coincides
with the prophetic dates of "seven year peace plan" mentioned in
the book of Daniel? One of the Jewish religious holidays that
have been practiced throughout the centuries in preparation for
this very event was the "Feast of Trumpets", that would announce
"The kingdom of Heaven is at hand". THIS YEAR the "Feast of Trumpets"
occurs on the two days of September 30th and October 1st, MARKING
A PROBABLE TIME for a "seven year peace plan" mentioned in the book
of Daniel. At the end of this "peace plan" Revelation mentions
"..the whole moon turned blood red..." (Rev. 6:12, after the opening
of the "sixth seal"). The actual date of this event will be at the
time of the end or "blood red" moon, representing an earth-lunar
eclipse, "Day of Atonement" (Yom Kippur), or "Feast of Tabernacles".
This is to occur on the 23rd of September, 2015. This is EXACTLY
7 YEARS MINUS 7 DAYS after the initial "Feast of Trumpets".
The "MINUS 7 DAYS" may refer to the Yomim Noraim, or the "high
holy days" representing "seven days of affliction that follows
the Feast of Trumpets in anticipation of Yom Kippur, or the
"Day of Atonement".
One can do a search on the NASA website to find that the dates that
coincide with the earth/lunar eclipses are on the following days and
verify that this information is completely without question.
______________U.T.
___________Greatest___Saros__________Pen.
____Date____Eclipse___Type #__Gamma__Mag
2015 Sep 28__02:47___T__137__-0.330__2.254
(cont)
Umb. S.D. S.D.__GST____Moon__Moon
Mag. Par__Tot__(0 UT)___RA____Dec
1.282 100m__36m___0.4___0.29___1.5
The "church age" is over. We are now living in the "kingdom age",
by virtue of the fact that the gospel is presently being preached
to the entire earth. The bible says "And this gospel of the
kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all
nations, and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14) Thus it does
more clearly seem that what has been prophesied by the followers
of YHWH to occur "in future times" may indeed be coinciding with
the events of the next 7 years!
American
Christopher A. Lee
<samuel...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Calender for the Blood Red Moon
What a fucking moron.
Is this Min again?
panam...@hotmail.com
> Calender for the Blood Red Moon
I prefer the Pink Moon:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hE0ODrmaiFE
Especially when driving one of my Volkswagens:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BIOW9fLT9eY
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
Preventer of Work
Nah, Min signs his work, even when using a pseudonym like 'Anonymous'.
American
All of you continue to prove my point.
"KNOW this, that in the last days disastrous times will come.
And men will be lovers of themselves and lovers of money, proud,
conceited, blasphemers, disobedient to their own people,
ungrateful, wicked, False accusers, addicts to lust, brutal,
haters of good things, Traitors, hasty, boasters, lovers of
pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness,
but far from the power of God; from such turn away."
2 Timothy 3:1-5, Just like it said
-
Christopher A. Lee
What a fucking moron.
Apostate
<dopey numerological and assortedly crazy claptrap>
Evidently, you've made a wrong turn, trying to follow the directions you were given to the
Clue Shack.
--
Apostate
alt.atheist #1931 I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Deputy Director in Charge of Being Paid, Department of Redundancy Department
"Mr. Worf, set phasers on "Fuck You" and fire at will."
. -- Doc Smartass
e-mail to X-mail-to, after demunging
John Locke
<samuel...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>All of you continue to prove my point.
>
>"KNOW this, that in the last days disastrous times will come.
> And men will be lovers of themselves...
>
Now that I'd like to see !
"It is far better to grasp the Universe
as it really is than to persist in delusion,
however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
Christopher A. Lee
<johnloc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 17 May 2008 17:47:07 -0700 (PDT), American
><samuel...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>All of you continue to prove my point.
>>
>>"KNOW this, that in the last days disastrous times will come.
>> And men will be lovers of themselves...
>>
>Now that I'd like to see !
He means he's his own right hand man.
John Baker
<samuel...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Calender <SMACK!>
Shut the fuck up, Min.
I thought you were "unsubscribing"s, you lying sack of shit.
Pastor Dave
>Calender for the Blood Red Moon
>
>Is it no wonder that the Bush peace plan with Israel coincides
>with the prophetic dates of "seven year peace plan" mentioned in
>the book of Daniel?
Daniel says nothing about a 7 year peace plan.
That is not found anywhere in the text and it is
nothing more than end timer doctrine!
--
"The Evolutionist will not get on a bullet train knowing
there's tracks missing down the line, but he certainly
gets on the Evolution Train with lots of tracks missing
in his story line!" - Old Man Joe
Pastor Dave
<samuel...@comcast.net> spake thusly:
And you think this proves your claims?
What're you, on glue?!
Are you really going to try to claim that no one
before your generation exhibited these traits,
Mr. Vanity?!
--
"What else is the whole like of mortals, but a sort of
comedy, in which the various actors, disguised by various
costumes and masks, walk on and plays each one his part,
until the manager waves them off the stage " - Erasmus
American
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 17:47:07 -0700 (PDT), American
On May 17, 8:48 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
> All of you continue to prove my point.
> "KNOW this, that in the last days disastrous times will come.
> And men will be lovers of themselves and lovers of money, proud,
> conceited, blasphemers, disobedient to their own people,
> ungrateful, wicked, False accusers, addicts to lust, brutal,
> haters of good things, Traitors, hasty, boasters, lovers of
> pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness,
> but far from the power of God; from such turn away."
> 2 Timothy 3:1-5, Just like it said
: What a fucking moron.
Swine. I present an interesting slant on scripture, and you
invalidate. Go back in the hole you came from and get out
of my face you idiot!
On May 17, 9:40 pm, John Locke <johnlocke98...@comcast.net> wrote:
> All of you continue to prove my point.
>"KNOW this, that in the last days disastrous times will come.
> And men will be lovers of themselves...
: Now that I'd like to see !
Juvenile delinquent. Apparently, you won't expect any kind of
protection just in case it DOES come, because you're so sure
of yourself. Arrogant.
: "It is far better to grasp the Universe
: as it really is than to persist in delusion,
: however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
Carl Sagan smoked pot. So do you, apparently.
On May 17, 9:41 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>All of you continue to prove my point.
>>"KNOW this, that in the last days disastrous times will come.
>> And men will be lovers of themselves...
>Now that I'd like to see !
: He means he's his own right hand man.
Not quite, Sherlock. There's another who's just a wee bit more
important than you or I, who takes this stuff quite seriously -
You assume, apparently, that Mannie, Moe, and Jack will return
as Moe, Larry, and Curly.
On May 17, 10:06 pm, Apostate <godless.bast...@yeehaw.org.invalid>
wrote:
>All of you continue to prove my point.
>"KNOW this, that in the last days disastrous times will come.
> And men will be lovers of themselves and lovers of money,
: and dunces will trouble Usenet with hollow threats that imaginary
Your intellectual ascent just blew a tire on the way to the
rumour bin.
: Big Brothers will beat up others' brothers. And they shall
The bible according to a religionist stooge. Get a life.
: walketh on their knuckles and spitteth on the sidewalk and
And stooge's knuckles buckled, and the spit became refreshment.
: generally maketh of themselves pains in the ass, and they shall
As the children became their masters, and the dog their leader.
: cry out "Oh! he persecuteth me for being a Christian!" when
And your stooge's inferiority complex trapped you in the circus
ring, with all the other stooges.
: their ISP accounts are cancelled for spamming.
And your spam account was recycled for instant messaging.
: --
: Apostate
Names tell all.
: alt.atheist #1931 I've found it!
and all the hollow words of a dwarf in hiding
: BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
Good for toad pickers and larvae charmers
: EAC Deputy Director in Charge of Being Paid, Department
: of Redundancy Department
& Under the almighty plug of a crosswired shock collar
: "Mr. Worf, set phasers on "Fuck You" and fire at will."
Crash dummy stuns a new huckleberry
: . -- Doc Smartass
Bitflip for avoiding hacker lingo
: e-mail to X-mail-to, after demunging
And doing voice-jail with 50 sub menus
Get a real vocabulary, pinhead...
On May 18, 7:43 am, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
> All of you continue to prove my point.
>"KNOW this, that in the last days disastrous times will come.
> And men will be lovers of themselves and lovers of money, proud
> conceited, blasphemers, disobedient to their own people,
> ungrateful, wicked, False accusers, addicts to lust, brutal,
> haters of good things, Traitors, hasty, boasters, lovers of
> pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness,
> but far from the power of God; from such turn away."
> 2 Timothy 3:1-5, Just like it said
: And you think this proves your claims?
: What're you, on glue?!
That would be, according to your twist, cherrymandering
: Are you really going to try to claim that no one
: before your generation exhibited these traits,
: Mr. Vanity?!
No, I'm not, but I gave you the sign where all of the events
recorded in scripture could not possibly have aligned themselves
in the exact order that was presented (I'm not the ONLY person
that has noticed this!)
And, you're wrong in saying that it is "vanity" to assume that
I KNOW THESE THINGS just because scripture says that "No one knows
about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,
but only the Father." (Matthew 24:36) because the "Feast of
Trumpets" DID NOT HAPPEN OVER A SINGLE DAY OR HOUR! The bible
DOES NOT SAY anything about NARROWING the time of Christ's
return down to at least three days, now does it? No!
: --
: "What else is the whole like of mortals, but a sort of
: comedy, in which the various actors, disguised by various
: costumes and masks, walk on and plays each one his part,
: until the manager waves them off the stage " - Erasmus
Lord God of trajectory and blast
Whose terrible sword has laid open the serpent
So it withers in the sun for the just to see,
Sheathe now the swift avenging blade with the names
of nations writ on it,
And assist in the preparation of the ploughshare.
- The Triumph, Norman Corwin, 1910 -
: <dopey numerological and assortedly crazy claptrap>
Undoubtedly the assessment of your stock ticker on clambakes
: Evidently, you've made a wrong turn, trying to follow the
: directions you were given to the Clue Shack.
While your Schwinn was rolling out like gangbusters
On May 18, 1:20 am, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
: Shut the fuck up, Min.
Needs his pie-hole plugged.
: I thought you were "unsubscribing"s, you lying sack of shit.
The paint chips are dulling your memory again.
Try the drain cleaner, it's much more effective.
On May 18, 7:42 am, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
>Calender for the Blood Red Moon
>Is it no wonder that the Bush peace plan with Israel coincides
>with the prophetic dates of "seven year peace plan" mentioned in
>the book of Daniel?
: Daniel says nothing about a 7 year peace plan.
: That is not found anywhere in the text and it is
: nothing more than end timer doctrine!
Not in YOUR WORDS, it doesn't!
Daniel warns, "In the midst of the week he shall cause the
sacrifice and and oblation to cease..." (Daniel 9:27) and
Paul gives more details, "he, as God, sitteth in the temple
of God, showing himself that he is God" (2 Thessalonians 2:4)
Daniel the prophet predicted that the beginning of the LAST
SEVEN ALLOTTED YEARS, the decree given by Artaxerxes in
444 B.C. to rebuild the temple would be 69 weeks of years,
or 483 biblical years, each of which are 360 days long.
However, the temple was destroyed by Titus in A.D. 70,
"stopping" the prophetic stop watch after 483 years. There
is only the last seven years to fulfill, but Israel had
Jesus crucified, stopping the countdown at seven years.
These final seven years begin with the signing of a treaty
between Israel and the Antichrist, "reviving" the Roman
empire of ten European nations. My belief is that the temple
does not have to be rebuilt in order for the peace treaty
to be signed.
President Bush was recently given a scroll by the Jewish
leaders in Jerusalem, introducing him as "The Prince of
Meshech and Tubal". If you read Ezekiel 38 you will find a
reference to "...Gog, of the land of Magog" being this very
person.
Scrolls don't mess around with 3000+ year old religions.
Do you?
: --
: "The Evolutionist will not get on a bullet train knowing
: there's tracks missing down the line, but he certainly
: gets on the Evolution Train with lots of tracks missing
: in his story line!" - Old Man Joe
Not only were we GIVEN this "breath of life" as it were,
but there is a peculiar allusion in Genesis 9:3, "As grassy
vegetation all manner of grain have I given you." So why
is it that within a short 2000 years, the genetic grain
chromosome pairs quadrupled, providing wheat and barley,
along with fruits, vegetables, sheep, and goats in the
same Syria-Israel "highlands" and not the plains?
Did Darwin never accept the premise that arranged a meeting
between Neanderthals and the hunted things that tweaked our
food chain? What about the validity of Genesis?
"Let her create a Primitive Worker
And let HIM bear the yoke
Let the Worker carry the toil of the gods,
Let him bear the yoke!"
- The Atra-Hasis Chronicle, from cuneform tablet
"The Annunaki stepped up to Enlil...
Black-headed Ones they were requesting of him.
To the black-headed people
to give a pickax to hold."
- Samuel N. Kramer, "The Myth of the Pickax"
There's also a great deal of artwork on "cylinder seals" depicting
these naked "Lulu Amelu" types performing their tasks for the
Annunaki.
"When Mankind was first created,
They knew not the eating of bread,
Knew not the dressing of garments,
Ate plants with their mouth like sheep,
Drank water from the ditch..."
- Atra Hasis Chronicle
All this occurred after our genetically superior ancestors, the
Annunaki, mutinied against Enlil, the extraterrestrial protector of
Sargon, 2400 B.C.!! This all happened at least one thousand years
before Ramses II of Egypt.
As time moved on, these hybrid humans were given the ability to
procreate, as echoed in the book of Genesis Adam and Eve account.
There are Sumerian pictograms alluding to the fact that "Eve" was
wearing a garment while Adam was still naked.
Now, where do we say that Darwin is in all of this? Seems like
those "empty portions of track" you were alluding to are
quite conveniently and conspicuously "empty".
(Sounds like another conspiracy to me...)
American
panam...@hotmail.com
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 18:40:19 -0700, John Locke
>
> >On Sat, 17 May 2008 17:47:07 -0700 (PDT), American
> ><samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>All of you continue to prove my point.
>
> >>"KNOW this, that in the last days disastrous times will come.
> >> And men will be lovers of themselves...
>
> >Now that I'd like to see !
>
> He means he's his own right hand man.
/rimshot..
-PF, Atl.
etc.
panam...@hotmail.com
> All of you continue to prove my point.
As you and your ilk continue to prove mine.
http://eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php
And Goku says if you have all seven Dragonballs the dragon will grant
you a wish.
Take your moronic Bronze Age comic book and shove it up your ass.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
American
> On May 17, 8:47 pm, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > All of you continue to prove my point.
>
> As you and your ilk continue to prove mine.
>
> http://eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php
>
> > "KNOW this, that in the last days disastrous times will come.
> > And men will be lovers of themselves and lovers of money, proud,
> > conceited, blasphemers, disobedient to their own people,
> > ungrateful, wicked, False accusers, addicts to lust, brutal,
> > haters of good things, Traitors, hasty, boasters, lovers of
> > pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness,
> > but far from the power of God; from such turn away."
>
> > 2 Timothy 3:1-5, Just like it said
>
> And Goku says if you have all seven Dragonballs the dragon will grant
> you a wish.
>
of cerebral regression rather than corporeal usurpation
>
> Take your moronic Bronze Age comic book and shove it up your ass.
>
intimidation. Grease your own AIDS pokhole, wormhead!
>
> -Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
>
Surname of a miniature poolmaster, on the dirt road to Bingoville
>
> aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
lotto numbers sent to friends playing roulette poker (Russian variety)
-
Pastor Dave
<samuel...@comcast.net> spake thusly:
>On May 18, 7:43 am, Pastor Dave
><ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 17 May 2008 17:47:07 -0700 (PDT), American
>> <samuelran...@comcast.net> spake thusly:
>>
>> >All of you continue to prove my point.
>>
>> >"KNOW this, that in the last days disastrous times will come.
>> > And men will be lovers of themselves and lovers of money, proud,
>> > conceited, blasphemers, disobedient to their own people,
>> > ungrateful, wicked, False accusers, addicts to lust, brutal,
>> > haters of good things, Traitors, hasty, boasters, lovers of
>> > pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness,
>> > but far from the power of God; from such turn away."
>>
>> > 2 Timothy 3:1-5, Just like it said
>>
>> And you think this proves your claims?
>> What're you, on glue?!
>>
>> Are you really going to try to claim that no one
>> before your generation exhibited these traits,
>> Mr. Vanity?!
>
>No, I'm not, but I gave you the sign where all of the events
>recorded in scripture could not possibly have aligned themselves
>in the exact order that was presented (I'm not the ONLY person
>that has noticed this!)
That's a load of crap! One generation after another
says the same thing!
"Only today are the events lining up to fulfill the
prophecies of the Bible before our very eyes!"
What you are really saying, is that your guide is
the daily news, which you read into the Bible!
Tell us
>And, you're wrong in saying that it is "vanity" to assume that
>I KNOW THESE THINGS just because scripture says that "No one knows
>about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,
>but only the Father." (Matthew 24:36) because the "Feast of
>Trumpets" DID NOT HAPPEN OVER A SINGLE DAY OR HOUR! The bible
>DOES NOT SAY anything about NARROWING the time of Christ's
>return down to at least three days, now does it? No!
You are, once again, reading what you want
into the Bible!
Jesus did not say... "No one has any clue when".
What Jesus actually said was that no one knows
THE DAY. You get that?!? THE DAY!!!
Jesus also said that no one knows, THE HOUR!
This does not mean, "Jesus said it's al about us
thousands of years later!".
It means just what it says! Jesus said that no one
know THE DAY, nor THE HOUR WITHIN THAT DAY!
And do you know what is conspicuously missing
from your original message and from your
response now?
PROOF OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING!!!
Now here are SOME FACTS!
1) A sign is only a sign, if it is a sign. Now what
does that mean? It means that something
that happens generation after generation,
is not a sign! It is every day life! Duh!!!
Something is a sign, when it FIRST happens
AFTER being stated that it would happen!
2) You are completely ignorant of history and
your supposed "Bible study" has consisted
of nothing except people telling you what
the Bible says and you looking at the daily
news, to see what you can force fit into
the Bible today!
3) You read whatever you want to into the Bible
and don't care about what it actually says!
--
He did not make us alive and new that we might
give Him something old and dead. - Unknown
Mark K. Bilbo
>
> You are, once again, reading what you want
> into the Bible!
That one took out an entire *factory* of irony meters...
Robibnikoff
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:cog8g5-...@75-104-203-24.cust.wildblue.net...
Is THAT what that was?!? Egad!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
panam...@hotmail.com
> On May 18, 1:58 pm, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 17, 8:47 pm, American <samuelran...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > All of you continue to prove my point.
>
> > As you and your ilk continue to prove mine.
>
> >http://eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php
>
> > > "KNOW this, that in the last days disastrous times will come.
> > > And men will be lovers of themselves and lovers of money, proud,
> > > conceited, blasphemers, disobedient to their own people,
> > > ungrateful, wicked, False accusers, addicts to lust, brutal,
> > > haters of good things, Traitors, hasty, boasters, lovers of
> > > pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness,
> > > but far from the power of God; from such turn away."
>
> > > 2 Timothy 3:1-5, Just like it said
>
> > And Goku says if you have all seven Dragonballs the dragon will grant
> > you a wish.
>
> Lame game juvenilistic abominations of triviality are a rotting corpse
> of cerebral regression rather than corporeal usurpation
If the form does not fit, change the form fitly.
> > Take your moronic Bronze Age comic book and shove it up your ass.
>
> Primitive rebirth lapses chaotic morbidity pundit with guttural
> intimidation. Grease your own AIDS pokhole, wormhead!
Heart cerebral disease sufferer, ascend the Great Wall to please watch
for.
> > -Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
>
> Surname of a miniature poolmaster, on the dirt road to Bingoville
We only serve water passed by our manager.
> > aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
>
> lotto numbers sent to friends playing roulette poker (Russian variety)
Donkey brings you happy with joy!
American
>
> You are, once again, reading what you want
> into the Bible!
>
the hour" that EVERYONE MUST FORGET to remember that the time of the
end may be near and that we are to be ready for this event?
No, where there MUST BE SPECIFIC ALLUSIONS to events ON THE VERGE OF
TRANSPIRING, I WILL TAKE THE PATH OF THE MOST COGNIZANT, WHILE YOU
WILL HEAP TO YOURSELF EXCUSES FOR THE INEVITABILITY OF HIS NON-
RETURN!!
>
> Jesus did not say... "No one has any clue when".
>
No, just because Jesus did not say "No one has any clue when" DOES NOT
MEAN THAT ANYONE COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDS WHAT ALL OF THE SIGNS WERE FOR
HIS COMING!!
Jesus most assuredly DID give MANY clues about His coming when he
said: "And this gospel of the KINGDOM shall be preached in ALL THE
EARTH, for a testimony to all the nations, AND THEN WILL COME THE
END." (Matthew 24:14)
The key here is "preached unto all the earth". I believe that we are
VERY CLOSE to this event being fulfilled with the advent of radio,
television, and print media. Of course, what counts as the message
getting out to the entire "world" might mean that even the poorest
nations ALL HAVE communication devices that will transmit this
information to ALL of the "unsaved masses" SIMULTANEOUSLY, which is,
well, delusional to assume.
So if your definition of "preached unto all the earth" means walking
into every single community of humans on the face of the earth either
by auto, bicycle, or foot and speaking by mouth the word of God within
range of your voice, then we've got a problem. In THAT case, CHRIST
WILL NEVER RETURN.
So my point is, that MEDIA has ALREADY ASSUMED THE ROLE OF THE
MOUTHPIECE, AS WELL AS FACETIME, IN PROCLAIMING THE MESSAGE OF THE
KINGDOM, so anyone who cannot achieve access to any form of media
broadcast in this regard is, well, off the food chain...
> What Jesus actually said was that no one knows
> THE DAY. You get that?!? THE DAY!!!
>
Actually, Jesus would now seem HUMOUROUS in this regard, because it
would seem that IN NO SINGLE DAY could a SINGLE MESSAGE OF THE KINGDOM
be "preached unto all the earth"!
>
> Jesus also said that no one knows, THE HOUR!
>
Ah, but the times continue to change faster in these types of
broadcast media simultaneously with an increasing diversity of moral
relativism. Indeed, the HOUR is just an HOUR!
>
> This does not mean, "Jesus said it's al about us
> thousands of years later!".
>
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Do you realize that
you're assuming since Jesus walked the earth 2000 years ago that the
scriptures were only useful to a small group of Jews?
Are you out of your mind?
>
> It means just what it says! Jesus said that no one
> know THE DAY, nor THE HOUR WITHIN THAT DAY!
>
Again, Jesus was referring to the KINGDOM being established AT THE END
OF THE CHURCH AGE.
Apparently, you must believe that the ONLY mission of a church is to
BURY THE DEAD. How awful that is! May I recommend that you find a
church that preaches the gospel? (Maybe too late for that)!
>
> And do you know what is conspicuously missing
> from your original message and from your
> response now?
>
Yeah, your own personal cornball craziness.
>
> PROOF OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING!!!
>
Read the bible. Do you not know that the Lord was resurrected? Ever
heard of the Seven Thunders? They were divine utterances given to
John, who was told by God not to reveal them. John was not supposed to
write them down.
Well, the truth is almost here. The "Seven Thunders" represent seven
prophesies leading to the second coming. Three of them have already
been fulfilled. Search it out for yourself, and you will find that the
remaining "thunders" will occur during the Great Tribulation period.
It will be a time of rude awakening for the whole earth!
>
> Now here are SOME FACTS!
>
> 1) A sign is only a sign, if it is a sign. Now what
> does that mean? It means that something
> that happens generation after generation,
> is not a sign! It is every day life! Duh!!!
> Something is a sign, when it FIRST happens
> AFTER being stated that it would happen!
>
Wrong. A "sign" is a "sign" from heaven, that becomes manifest from
the supernatural into the natural, when the TRUTH becomes revealed to
those God wishes to reveal it to. The "truth" is not based on any
"sign" that "steers" a believer from one day to the next, but "steers"
entire bodies of believers!
>
> 2) You are completely ignorant of history and
> your supposed "Bible study" has consisted
> of nothing except people telling you what
> the Bible says and you looking at the daily
> news, to see what you can force fit into
> the Bible today!
>
If the secrets of the Kingdom of Heaven are like cherries, looks like
you got all the pits! There are many, many things that cannot be
explained by ordinary news media! There simply is not enough truth-
seekers doing the exploring! Is there a relationship to the
resurrection of Christ and the pyramid capstone? Check it out, instead
of assuming that the "daily news" has to cover it!
>
> 3) You read whatever you want to into the Bible
> and don't care about what it actually says!
>
Wrong. One has to hear the voice as it was intended to be spoken to
you, and then "go with it" instead of assuming that it was meant for
only a specific group of people at a specific date in our history, as
opposed to "followers" of a God with a single name, that has not
changed sinced the time of Genesis!
> --
> He did not make us alive and new that we might
> give Him something old and dead. - Unknown-
>
Great morbidity for better-than-nothing, dim bulbs at best.
>
>
-
American
Get a REAL name.
American
> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in messagenews:cog8g5-...@75-104-203-24.cust.wildblue.net...
>
> > Pastor Dave wrote:
>
> >> You are, once again, reading what you want
> >> into the Bible!
>
> > That one took out an entire *factory* of irony meters...
>
> Is THAT what that was?!? Egad!
> --
> Robyn
> Resident Witchypoo
> BAAWA Knight!
> #1557
Rhetoric reactionary.
Mark K. Bilbo
> "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
> news:cog8g5-...@75-104-203-24.cust.wildblue.net...
>> Pastor Dave wrote:
>>> You are, once again, reading what you want
>>> into the Bible!
>> That one took out an entire *factory* of irony meters...
>
> Is THAT what that was?!? Egad!
I soiled my armor!
johac
<4e5102c0-d3b1-4f3c...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
American <samuel...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Calender for the Blood Red Moon
>
http://www.jacquedee63.com/badmoonrising.html
--
John #1782
Mark K. Bilbo
I have one thank you.
Pastor Dave
<samuel...@comcast.net> spake thusly:
>On May 19, 7:48 am, Pastor Dave
><ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You are, once again, reading what you want
>> into the Bible!
>
>And am I to conclude that, according to YOUR "Nobody knows the day nor
>the hour" that EVERYONE MUST FORGET to remember that the time of the
>end may be near and that we are to be ready for this event?
No. And try being honest.
1) It isn't *MY* "nobody knows...". It is what
the Bible says.
2) I'm not the one claiming it's about today.
You are.
3) I clearly stated that it meant what it says
and not what you wish to make it into.
It does not say, "Nobody knows when".
It specifically says that no one knows
the day, nor the exact hour within
that day and that's exactly what it says.
To claim that it means, "It could be
thousands of years later, because Jesus
said that no one has any idea when it
would happen", is to add to the Bible!
Especially since Jesus did say it would
be within that same generation!
>> Jesus did not say... "No one has any clue when".
>>
>No, just because Jesus did not say "No one has any clue when" DOES NOT
>MEAN THAT ANYONE COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDS WHAT ALL OF THE SIGNS WERE FOR
>HIS COMING!!
In other words, you don't care what He actually said,
because your conjecture which you use to try to save
your doctrine is more important to you than what He
actually said.
>Jesus most assuredly DID give MANY clues about His coming when he
>said: "And this gospel of the KINGDOM shall be preached in ALL THE
>EARTH, for a testimony to all the nations, AND THEN WILL COME THE
>END." (Matthew 24:14)
If we use your logic, then it can never happen,
because more people are being born every day
and the population keeps increasing!
It was preached in all the earth. The Bible says it was.
But you know what? If I were to show you where the
Bible specifically says that, you won't accept it! Instead,
you will make excuses as to why it can't be true and
won't care that the Bible says it is true, because your
doctrine is more important to you than God's word!
I.e., You won't change your doctrine. Instead, you'll
try to change the Bible!
And you end timers keep going by the population today!
But Jesus didn't say it today! He said it in the first
century, when the population was much smaller!
>The key here is "preached unto all the earth". I believe that we are
>VERY CLOSE to this event being fulfilled with the advent of radio,
>television, and print media.
In other words, you find a way to make it about today,
no matter what it means you have to add to the Bible!
Your claims are nothing more than the standard
Futurist rhetoric!
>> What Jesus actually said was that no one knows
>> THE DAY. You get that?!? THE DAY!!!
>>
>Actually, Jesus would now seem HUMOUROUS in this regard, because it
>would seem that IN NO SINGLE DAY could a SINGLE MESSAGE OF THE KINGDOM
>be "preached unto all the earth"!
Now look at how you try to dodge the subject!
Instead of dealing with the passage quoted,
because you see that He didn't say what you
claimed He did, you wish instead to pit one
passage against another and try to change
the subject! Typical Futurist!
>> Jesus also said that no one knows, THE HOUR!
>
>Ah, but the times continue to change faster in these types of
>broadcast media simultaneously with an increasing diversity of moral
>relativism. Indeed, the HOUR is just an HOUR!
And now you go into your Futurist rant in which
you assume that Jesus was talking about radio
and TV and try to rework the word "hour" into
meaning any length of time you need it to be,
to make it about you today!
>> This does not mean, "Jesus said it's al about us
>> thousands of years later!".
>
>Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
Do you have any idea how stupid and dishonest you look?!
>Do you realize that
>you're assuming since Jesus walked the earth 2000 years ago that the
>scriptures were only useful to a small group of Jews?
>
>Are you out of your mind?
Do you realize that you're saying that the Scriptures
are only useful to your generation today? Are you
out of your mind?
Fact: You don't like that it doesn't say it's all about you
and to you, if it isn't, then the Bible is a useless
waste of paper!
>> It means just what it says! Jesus said that no one
>> know THE DAY, nor THE HOUR WITHIN THAT DAY!
>>
>Again, Jesus was referring to the KINGDOM being established AT THE END
>OF THE CHURCH AGE.
Jesus never said that! You did! And I am sick and tired
of you spitting out your Futurist bullshit and pretending
that the Bible says it and then daring to claim that I'm
the one out of my mind!
What you know is a doctrine that you were taught
and not the Bible itself! Nowhere does the Bible
ACTUALLY SAY the crap that you claim and you
always have others meanings that you insert into
the Bible and claim that Jesus said it, when nowhere
is He found in the Scriptures saying those words!
And isn't it interesting that your supposed "meanings"
somehow always end up making it about YOU TODAY!
Now when you're ready to stop the bullshit and to deal
with what the Bible actually says, then let me know!
But if all you want to do is spout out your doctrine
and pretend it's what the Bible says, then don't
bother me! I'm not interested in your fantasies!
I'm only interested in WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS!
--
Don't forget, Judas also left early.
Pastor Dave
<samuel...@comcast.net> spake thusly:
>On May 19, 7:48 am, Pastor Dave
><ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Jesus most assuredly DID give MANY clues about
>His coming when he said: "And this gospel of the
>KINGDOM shall be preached in ALL THE EARTH,
>for a testimony to all the nations, AND THEN WILL
>COME THE END." (Matthew 24:14)
In other words, what I posted from the Bible itself
can't be true, because gee, look at this verse, right?
But hey, you're not trying to pit the Bible against
itself, are you?
You see dude, when you do this, it's not me, nor
what I said that you end up trying to disprove,
but the Bible itself, since I directly quoted what
Jesus said! And your response was to imply that
that can't be true, because of something else
He said! So instead of wondering if your own
INTERPRETATION is off, you instead decided
to pit Jesus against HIMSELF! Yahoo!!! What
a GOOD, Bible believing CHRISTIAN you are, huh?!?
I'm glad that you acknowledged that when it happened,
THEN the end would come. So now, when you see what
I'm about to show you, you don't get to weasel out and
try to insert gaps in time in there!
Furthermore, you ASSume that the Kingdom of God
would be a physical thing, when Jesus said it would
NOT be able to be seen, nor pointed at and said that
it is WITHIN US (Luke 17:20-21).
But the bottom line is that Paul said that this happened
already. And I'm going to provide it for you, so that
you can then twist it around and deny it, because you
only care about your doctrine that tells you that it's all
about you today and you don't really care what the
Bible says.
You see, I already know that you will not admit that
yes, the Bible says that this was already fulfilled,
because like every other futurist, you are completely
dishonest when it comes to eschatology!
And no, no partial admission will do! By your own words,
when it was fulfilled, THEN the end would come!
Romans 10:17-18
17) So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing
by the word of God.
18) But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed:
Their sound *HAS* gone out TO ALL THE EARTH
and their words to THE ENDS OF THE WORLD.
Note: *HAS* gone out! Past tense!
Colossians 1:6a,23
6a) ...which [Gospel] *HAS* come to you, as it
has also IN ALL THE WORLD...
23) ...if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded
and steadfast, and are not moved away from the
hope of the Gospel which you heard, which *WAS*
PREACHED TO EVERY CREATURE UNDER HEAVEN...
Note: WAS PREACHED!
Now there you go! So go ahead and get busy
denying it and thinking up ways to twist it!
And make sure to make something up on the fly
and pretend that you always believed that and
that no one will notice that you're doing that,
even though you just finished saying that it
happening meant that the end comes!
Go ahead, insert a time gap that you never
claimed before and pretend you didn't just
do it!
Go ahead and lie about it, because saving your
doctrine is more important to you than what
God's word ACTUALLY SAYS!!!
To you, like the rest of the Futurists and as more
than one Futurist has confessed when cornered
(and actually thought saying this helped them)...
"If the Bible's not all about us today, then what
good is it?"
But hey, no vanity on your part, right?! Please!!!
You have the Biblical proof that Jesus' words in
Matthew 24:14 were fulfilled. You can either
believe the Bible, or not believe it.
But whatever you do, DO NOT start quoting
other passages to me, claiming that they
haven't been fulfilled, so that can't be right,
because I'll say it once again, in case you're
slow in the head, you won't be arguing against
me! You'll be pitting the Bible against ITSELF!
Now you do what you want, but what I quoted here
is very clear, simple language and it says that the
Gospel was indeed preached to the world and to
every creature under heaven! END of story!
So try adjusting your interpretation of HOW things
were supposed to be fulfilled, instead of the when!
It is clear that the Bible says it happened! But you
want to hang on to your wild, sci-fi version of the
how and IGNORE the when! The truth is, however
it was to happen, Jesus and the Apostles taught
that it would be within that same generation and
Paul said that the Gospel was preached to all,
which you also admit means that the end must
have come! So to question it, is to question the
Bible and to admit that you are wrong and it is
to say that you know more than God Himself,
since He is the one who inspired the Bible!
The Bible says that ALL SCRIPTURE is suitable
for correction.
News Flash: In order TO correct, it must BE correct!
Therefore, you also don't get to try to slither out,
by claiming that Paul was wrong and also say that
the Bible is the inerrant word of God! If they got
this wrong, then toss your Bible, since it isn't
trustworthy! It can't be wrong and right at
the same time, about the same subject!
Translation: Don't bother lying to me, nor trying to
weasel out of this. I am not stupid and
no, it doesn't look intelligent because
you typed it into a news group, when
you know that there's no way that you
would stand there face to face and lie
like that! So yes it looks just as foolish
when you do it in usenet, so don't
bother doing it!
--
"Flowers never emit so sweet and strong a fragrance
as before a storm. When a storm approaches thee,
be as fragrant as a sweet-smelling flower."
-Jean Paul Richter
Cary Kittrell
Howmanyofme.com:
There are 20,038 people in the U.S. with the last
name of Biblo.
Now, what the hell kind of name is "Spammy"?
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
typo: 2,038
-- cary
Mark K. Bilbo
> In article <e3bca5b7-c40e-40d8...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> American <samuel...@comcast.net> writes:
>> On May 19, 10:51=A0am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
>>> Pastor Dave wrote:
>>>
>>>> You are, once again, reading what you want
>>>> into the Bible!
>>> That one took out an entire *factory* of irony meters...
>> Get a REAL name.
>
> Howmanyofme.com:
>
> There are 20,038 people in the U.S. with the last
> name of Biblo.
Biblo?
Cary Kittrell
Yes. It comes from the medieval Latverian name "Biblaugh",
or, loosely translated, "those who scoff at Our Sacred Books".
Few Biblaughs are found in Latveria today, having been
driven out in a series of pogroms in the fifteenth-sixteeth
centuries instigated by the fanatical despot Vineegh "the
Scourge of the Eastern Realm, and Several of the Costal Marshes"
and continued by his son Voneen "the Gently Bemused".
As a result Biblaughs (later Biblo) are found scattered
around the world today, where they are invariably
viewed with suspicion by their neighbors.
Either that, or else it was a typo.
-- cary
American
> In article <e3bca5b7-c40e-40d8-b050-3defcdc63...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> American <samuelran...@comcast.net> writes:
>
> > On May 19, 10:51=A0am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
> > > Pastor Dave wrote:
>
> > > > You are, once again, reading what you want
> > > > into the Bible!
>
> > > That one took out an entire *factory* of irony meters...
>
> > Get a REAL name.
>
> Howmanyofme.com:
>
> There are 20,038 people in the U.S. with the last
> name of Biblo.
>
> Now, what the hell kind of name is "Spammy"?
>
> -- cary
Stupid troll wench.. You need to be home knitting, and not staying up
past your hangover - Go push buggies for the dollar store - you'll get
a lot less attention!
-
American
> On Mon, 19 May 2008 17:38:01 -0700 (PDT), American
: On May 19, 7:48 am, Pastor Dave
: <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote:
:: You are, once again, reading what you want
:: into the Bible!
What a freakin' waste of time.
My mistake for thinking that "Ian Rand" types haunted "alt.atheism"
Apparently, it's become a cult that believes the bible is only a
"history book" with no ability of "prophesy".
Notice the convenient avoidance by "Pastor Dave" of anything that
smacks of truth, especially when referring to the "Seven Thunders".
Every single passage of scripture that I quoted was NEVER referenced
by "Pastor Dave" in ANY of his rebuttals. This means a TOTAL
AVOIDANCE OF TRUTH on his part!
1) NO rebuttal on Archeology studies (documented) that PROVE
the existance of Adam & Eve types in ancient history.
2) NO rebuttal on my presentation of Ezekiel 38 in prophecy,
3) NO rebuttal on my presentation of Daniel 9:27 in prophecy,
4) NO rebuttal on my presentation of 2 Thessalonians 2:4 by
the Apostle Paul about the antichrist!
ANYONE can search out this stuff, but many will also pretend that
it never existed! Yet it is there, in plain black and white!!
:: And am I to conclude that, according to YOUR "Nobody knows the
:: day nor the hour" that EVERYONE MUST FORGET to remember that the
:: time of the end may be near and that we are to be ready for
:: this event?
: No. And try being honest.
A point squeaks by, but with an invalidating clause.
: 1) It isn't *MY* "nobody knows...". It is what
the Bible says.
NOW you're "dumbing down" what the bible says to suit your own
fantastic delusion of treating the bible like it's just a history
book! (Apparently, you don't believe in the LIVING WORD OF GOD!).
You believe only what Satan wants you to believe, and that is
a lie! You pass judgement on those who zealously believe in a
very contemporary return of Christ by making the claim that they do
it with some profit motive in mind, in order to qualify and magnify
themselves in the light of words that have been "God breathed"!
: 2) I'm not the one claiming it's about today.
: You are.
AGAIN, I'm not the ONLY one making this assertion, but YOU,
without any message or clarity, are flinging out pure rhetoric
with NO scriptural references whatsoever, in pretending to be
someone that you really ARE NOT, and that is FALSEHOOD!
: 3) I clearly stated that it meant what it says
: and not what you wish to make it into.
NOW you're sounding like a broken record! You've not given ANY
references to proving what I've already referenced in the bible
as either confounding or correcting what I've said, but are usinjg
a petty blame game to justify your response.
What nonsense!
: It does not say, "Nobody knows when"
: It specifically says that no one knows
: the day, nor the exact hour within
: that day and that's exactly what it says.
: To claim that it means, "It could be
: thousands of years later, because Jesus
: said that no one has any idea when it
: would happen", is to add to the Bible!
: Especially since Jesus did say it would
: be within that same generation!
Ah, so there's you're history book! A dead bible for historians
is what you're after! So you want to make Jesus a very simple
"human" holy man instead of a Son of Almighty God! Did you forget
that Almighty God had a name? Did you forget that the NAME of
Almighty God was purposely left out of the New Testament and
that this name has to be found out? Did you know that this is the
name of the same God of Moses and Abraham?
No, you didn't know this, because you refuse to identify Christ
with the One who sent him who also SPOKE directly to Peter,
James, and John:
"While he was yet speaking, behold, a radiant cloud overshadowed
them. And, behold, a VOICE OUT OF THE CLOUD saying, This is my
Son, the Beloved, in whom I delight; hear Him." (Matthew 17:5)
Now, let me ask you a question:
Is THIS supposed to be a God who only lived 2000 years ago?
If your answer is yes, then you do not really believe in the
God of Jesus Christ! According to Jesus in John 14:6, "I am the
way, the truth and the life, NO MAN comes to the Father except
through me". The God of Jesus Christ exists TODAY, and the
ONLY ACCESS is through JESUS CHRIST. Does that make Jesus
Christ just another spiritual holy man that just lived a life
2000 years ago? BY NO MEANS. HE IS ALIVE TODAY!
AND THE SAME GOD THEN IS THE SAME GOD NOW!
::: Jesus did not say... "No one has any clue when".
:: No, just because Jesus did not say "No one has any clue when"
:: DOES NOT MEAN THAT ANYONE COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDS WHAT ALL OF
:: THE SIGNS WERE FOR HIS COMING!!
: In other words, you don't care what He actually said,
: because your conjecture which you use to try to save
: your doctrine is more important to you than what He
: actually said.
It's NOT MY DOCTRINE. It's about a DOCTRINE CONTINUED from your
wishful "history book" to the present day! It's from the LIVING
WORD OF GOD - not the Calvinist book of the Dead!
:: Jesus most assuredly DID give MANY clues about His coming
:: when he said: "And this gospel of the KINGDOM shall be preached
:: in ALL THE EARTH, for a testimony to all the nations, AND THEN
:: WILL COME THE END." (Matthew 24:14)
: If we use your logic, then it can never happen,
: because more people are being born every day
: and the population keeps increasing!
A moot point - this is where "the correct media" enters
the equation of "The best message equals the most listeners".
Certain frequencies can be transmitted electromagnetically through
the atmosphere that cause one to believe that he "hears" a
voice when there is actually no one present - except at the
"other end" of where the transmission originates from - the point
being, that a God of infinite knowledge can do anything He wants,
in order to OFFER the message of salvation to everyone on
the planet - in some way, shape, or form. Although it requires
a "stretch" of the imagination to achieve - but that was/is what
the word of God says, and maybe that's just what it's going to
take. Remember, we've got 2/3 of the total population of the
heavens on our side, so don't you think that this stuff has
already been figured out?
: It was preached in all the earth. The Bible says it was.
Not MY bible. MY BIBLE says in Matthew 24:14: "This gospel of
the Kingdom will be preached in all the world for a witness to
all Gentiles; and then shall the end come."
Notice that it said "WILL BE PREACHED" and not "WAS PREACHED"!
: But you know what? If I were to show you where the
: Bible specifically says that, you won't accept it! Instead,
: you will make excuses as to why it can't be true and
: won't care that the Bible says it is true, because your
: doctrine is more important to you than God's word!
Wrong. The doctrine that YOU assume only conveniently "fits"
within the context of a LIVING CHURCH will never become
OBFUSCATED by yours or anyone else's attempts to block
what the Holy Spirit is saying to the people of God! Do you
know and believe what happened over 2000 years ago at the
day of Pentecost? There was then, as there is still today, a
plan of salvation, since it was in God's FOREKNOWLEDGE, that
He chose us to be His children (1 Peter 1:2).
If your's ISN'T the word that I'm using here, then whose
word(s) are YOU using?
: I.e., You won't change your doctrine. Instead, you'll
try to change the Bible!
Seems YOUR DOCTRINE died at the cross! Mine ROSE FROM THE
DEAD! (Apparently, the Christ that you believe in must
continually hang on the cross!)
: And you end timers keep going by the population today!
: But Jesus didn't say it today! He said it in the first
: century, when the population was much smaller!
Here we go again with the smaller population, smaller earth
society type faith that "disappears" as your instant regional
borders disappear into some culture of mistaken identity!
:: The key here is "preached unto all the earth". I believe that
:: we are VERY CLOSE to this event being fulfilled with the advent
:: of radio, television, and print media.
: In other words, you find a way to make it about today,
: no matter what it means you have to add to the Bible!
Not me ADDING, it's you who are SUBTRACTING! GET WITH THE
PROGRAM!
: Your claims are nothing more than the standard
: Futurist rhetoric!
If the "Second Coming" is supposed to be "futurist", then
I'd rather not stick around for feigns like you to explain
how secrets get sequestered in history books!
::: What Jesus actually said was that no one knows
::: THE DAY. You get that?!? THE DAY!!!
:: Actually, Jesus would now seem HUMOUROUS in this regard, because
:: it would seem that IN NO SINGLE DAY could a SINGLE MESSAGE OF THE
:: KINGDOM be "preached unto all the earth"!
: Now look at how you try to dodge the subject!
: Instead of dealing with the passage quoted,
: because you see that He didn't say what you
: claimed He did, you wish instead to pit one
: passage against another and try to change
: the subject! Typical Futurist!
Read what I'm alluding to instead of making false accusations:
"And this gospel of the KINGDOM shall be preached in all the
earth, for a testimony to all the nations; and then will come
the end." (Matthew 24:14)
How does one preach today, huh? The kingdom message is presently
being preached around the world, in both missions and popular
news media. There are radio, satelite, and television stations
spanning the entire globe that use advanced signal receiving
technology. These things are there for the taking, if anyone has
the capacity to search them out - and most, if not all, DO.
::: Jesus also said that no one knows, THE HOUR!
:: Ah, but the times continue to change faster in these types
:: of broadcast media simultaneously with an increasing diversity
:: of moral relativism. Indeed, the HOUR is just an HOUR!
: And now you go into your Futurist rant in which
: you assume that Jesus was talking about radio
: and TV and try to rework the word "hour" into
: meaning any length of time you need it to be,
: to make it about you today!
You're pettifogging what the important points are! Forget about
"me". Rather, it's the WITNESS of the gospel that goes out seeking
a NEWER WITNESS to tell these things to, NOT SOME BUSINESS
SEEKING REPROBATE!
::: This does not mean, "Jesus said it's al about us
::: thousands of years later!".
:: Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
: Do you have any idea how stupid and dishonest you look?!
God is always calling people to Himself, so don't "throw the
baby out with the bath water"! The Almighty sends signs such as
the sun, the moon, seasons, harvest, to prove that He already
loves us! There are those who refuse this God and so God gives
them up to a REPROBATE MIND. Those who live in God's heaven
should not be forced to live with the fear of a another satanic
rebellion in pain, suffering, and death! Thus I believe, as do
many, many others, that their inheritance is one of desolation.
:: Do you realize that you're assuming since Jesus walked the earth
:: 2000 years ago that the scriptures were only useful to a small
group
:: of Jews?
: Are you out of your mind?
According to your mind numbed robot(s), they won't understand the
first thing about paying attention before it's too late anyway.
I could care less about what you think!
: Do you realize that you're saying that the Scriptures
: are only useful to your generation today? Are you
: out of your mind?
Your just scripting what I said earlier back to me.
how boring is that? Try living in a hole - it's AHOLE lot
safer for you (as long as the nose stays brown).
: Fact: You don't like that it doesn't say it's all about you
: and to you, if it isn't, then the Bible is a useless
: waste of paper!
::: It means just what it says! Jesus said that no one
::: know THE DAY, nor THE HOUR WITHIN THAT DAY!
:: Again, Jesus was referring to the KINGDOM being established
:: AT THE END OF THE CHURCH AGE.
: Jesus never said that! You did! And I am sick and tired
: of you spitting out your Futurist bullshit and pretending
: that the Bible says it and then daring to claim that I'm
: the one out of my mind!
LIAR. I even quoted the scripture, but you refuse to acknowledge
my attempt to show you what it says. This makes you stiff-necked.
Not only that, but you're being beligerent in even acknowledging
that a word was actually metaphorically spoken in this regard.
I'm not going to provide any more scriptural references if you
keep on trashing my efforts by not acknowledging or responding
intelligently with your own scriptural references.
I'm not going to assume that you really know anything about what
you're talking about, because by this time you should have pro-
vided something of value that would have actually contested my
claim. The entire conversation has been extremely fruitless up
to this point.
: What you know is a doctrine that you were taught
: and not the Bible itself! Nowhere does the Bible
: ACTUALLY SAY the crap that you claim and you
This is exactly what I'm referring to - you're pure rhetorical
arguments in lieu of intelligent conversation. Now you're again
playing the blame game with your childish rants. What you really
need now is correction. Did your parents ever hit you?
: always have others meanings that you insert into
: the Bible and claim that Jesus said it, when nowhere
: is He found in the Scriptures saying those words!
You must have locked up your own bible and thrown away the key!
You cannot go on like this and keep Jesus imprisoned in the
history book! You must understand that the past, present AND
future are HERE NOW!! Nothing has changed since the bible
was written except the names of the participants! Your future
depends entirely on your obedience to God. If you listen to
the Lord, you can prosper. If you fail to listen to God and
go your own stubborn way, then you are going to run into
insurmountable problems.
: And isn't it interesting that your supposed "meanings"
: somehow always end up making it about YOU TODAY!
I'll gladly accept the free gift that the Lord bestows upon
the ones He loves rather than live out the omen of those
described by the prophet Malachi:
"To you who fear My name the Sun of Righteousness shall
arise with healing in His wings; and you shall go out and
grow fat like stall-fed calves. YOU SHALL TRAMPLE THE
WICKED, FOR THEY SHALL BE ASHES UNDER THE SOLES OF
YOUR FEET."
This scripture also means preparing for the future, in
terms of having a proper relationship with God.
: Now when you're ready to stop the bullshit and to deal
: with what the Bible actually says, then let me know!
: But if all you want to do is spout out your doctrine
: and pretend it's what the Bible says, then don't
: bother me! I'm not interested in your fantasies!
: I'm only interested in WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS!
First of all, GET RID OF THE SIG "<ananias917_@>" if you want
to talk to a believer in Jesus Christ. "Ananias" was the high
priest who was hell-bent on persecuting Jesus after Jesus turned
all the money tables over in the temple. He was also the one who
ordered those standing near the apostle Paul to strike him in
the mouth. He was an evil person with evil, wicked servants, as
the writer Josephus writes:
"As for the high priest Ananias, he increased in glory every day,
and this to a great degree...for he was a great hoarder up of
money...he also had servants who were very wicked, who joined
themselves to the boldest sort of the people, and went to the
thrashing-floors, and took away the tithes that belonged to the
priests by violence, and did not refrain from beating such as
would not give these tithes to them. So the other high priests
acted in the like manner, as did those his servants, without any
one being able to prohibit them; so that (some of the) priests,
that of old were wont to be supported with those tithes, died
for want of food..."
: --
: Don't forget, Judas also left early.
Brought to you by a reminder from the warning master himself
(that'd be a little too thin sliced for me, creep...)
<PLONK>
Pastor Dave
<samuel...@comcast.net> spake thusly:
>: Don't forget, Judas also left early.
>
>Brought to you by a reminder from the warning master himself
>
>(that'd be a little too thin sliced for me, creep...)
>
><PLONK>
Thank you for proving my point about you!
1) I'm not the one who changed the subject
by bringing up Mat 24:14! That was you!
2) The Bible says that Mat 24:14 was fulfilled
and I provided the proof, which you both
now reject!
3) It is more important to you, to have your
doctrine, than to have the truth of God!
You claim that to believe the Bible, which means
believing that the prophecies were fulfilled, is to
"believe in a dead Bible".
The truth is, that I can point to the Bible and show
people how Jesus kept His word.
The truth is, that by saying what you did, you are
indeed saying that things like:
a) Salvation.
b) Being in the Kingdom of God, which Christ
said is within us (Luke 17:20-21)
c) Eternal life with Christ in Heaven.
...are all worthless things, because it means that
it isn't all about you today and it's not all about
this physical world!
So in truth, while you claim to "look up and not
sideways", looking sideways is all you care about!
And as for your "living church" claim, by saying that
the Bible must NOT yet be fulfilled, in order to have
a "living Bible" and a "living church", you are saying
that once it is fulfilled, that the church becomes dead!
DUUUHHH!!! HELLO?!? MCFLY?!?
The truth is, that you consider anything that it not
about you and your time, to be a waste of time!
And then you have the gall to sit there and tell me
that what you say is true, because "many say it"!
You idiot!!! Many people saying something, does not
make it true!
But hey, let's play your game! So tell us... When are
you going to become an evolutionist?! After all, most
people do believe it happened and according to you,
majority opinion = truth! So when are you going to
become an evolutionist? Tell us.
The truth is, when you have to rely on:
1) Majority opinion.
2) I said so.
3) The population of my day is what Jesus meant.
4) But look at what's in the news today!
...then you have no desire for God's word, but only
for your own sick little, "How do I make it all about me!"
game, which comes from your vanity and your ego and
your fear of leaving this world! You want to believe,
but only if you don't have to stop being a human
and only if God will make this planet into a paradise
for you!
So how does it feel to make so many demands from God,
all the while doing nothing for Him to help people, because
you figure why the Hell bother, since the world's going to
blow up anyway!
But hey, as long as you can make yourself feel self
important and the master of Bible prophecy, then
you go right ahead, okay?! But YOUR INTERPRETATIONS
that try to force the day's news into the Bible, do not
trump the clear and simple passages in the Bible
and no matter how hard you try, you simply cannot
escape what the following says! ...
By your own words, when it was fulfilled, THEN the end
would come! And YOU have just chosen to reject what
the Bible says, in favor of your own interpretations of
other passages, because of your vain doctrine! Sad!
"And this Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached
in all the world as a witness to all the nations,
and then the end will come." - Matthew 24:14
Romans 10:17-18
17) So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing
by the word of God.
18) But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed:
Their sound *HAS* gone out TO ALL THE EARTH
and their words to THE ENDS OF THE WORLD.
Note: *HAS* gone out! Past tense!
Colossians 1:6a,23
6a) ...which [Gospel] *HAS* come to you, as it
has also IN ALL THE WORLD...
23) ...if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded
and steadfast, and are not moved away from the
hope of the Gospel which you heard, which *WAS*
PREACHED TO EVERY CREATURE UNDER HEAVEN...
Note: WAS PREACHED!
Now goodbye to both of you!
--
The Last Days were in the first century:
Matthew 16:27-28
27) For the Son of man shall come in the glory
of his Father with his angels; and then he shall
reward every man according to his works.
28) Verily I say unto you, There be some standing
here, which shall not taste of death, till they
see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Jesus said He would return within the lifetime
of the Apostles. We know this, because Jesus
said SOME (at least one, not not most) would
be alive when this happened.
This is not the Transfiguration. There was no
coming with the Father's angels and no judging
every man according to His works and they were
all still alive.
This is not Pentecost. There was no coming
with the Father's angels and no judging
every man according to His works and they
were all but one, still alive.
Now see a verse that no one argues is about
His Second Coming and see that this is what
Jesus was referring to, in Matthew 16:27-28.
"And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward
is with me, to give every man according as
his work shall be." - Revelation 22:12
Mark K. Bilbo
Typo? Couldn't be. Much, much too improbabul...