On 26/01/2012 12:53 AM, raven1 wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:09:35 +1100, fasgnadh<
fasg...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> <snip
<Unsnip another small-brain-atheist Snip and Run>
>> On 24/01/2012 4:21 AM, Brave Burger wrote:
>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> On 22/01/2012 8:42 PM, Brave Burger wrote:
>>>>> fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/01/2012 8:43 PM, Don Martin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:56:15 -0800, DanielSan
>>>>>>>> Colanth praises the achievements of religious societies:
>>>>>>>>> <
daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/01/2012 1:19 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Atheists are always criticising those who built the first
>>>>>>>>>>> Schools and Hospitals, but they never build any better ones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We see how true that is, that atheists never build any
>>>>>> they just seem incapable of creating a
>>>>>> worthwhile civilisation;
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually my sweat and blood is in many hospitals, I work construction
>>>>> and as such have build hospitals etc with my own two hands.
>>
>> So your lucky to live in one of the free, open, progressive,
>> rights-based secular democracies which have been built by
>> MAJORITY RELIGIOUS societies. They are not hate-filled and
>> prejudiced against non-believers, (like the atheist states
>> invariably were towards believers, who were persecuted, terrorised,
>> tortured and killed; 60,000,000 dead in the atheist regimes before
>> they catastrophically failed) ...instead they will give you a job,
>> and the same rights as themselves.
>
> Absolutely.
It's a free ride for atheists, and their kook Kronies.
>> They will even give a hate filled atheist thug like your Warlord
>> a chance to redeem himself;
>>
>> # From: Steve Knight <
skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
>> # Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
>> # Message-ID: <
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>> # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
>> #
>> # We kill theists and shit down their throats
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>>
>> Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE
>>
>> # From: Steve Knight <
skni...@cox.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
>> # Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
>> # Message-ID: <
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>> # Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
>> #
>> # On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
>> # <
blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> #
>> # >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
>> #
>> # It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
>> # The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
>> #
>> # Warlord Steve
>> # BAAWA
>>
>> Atheists don't condemn this sociopath and distance
>> themselves from him, he's their SpokesOrc! 8^o
Not a single atheist denouncing this vile SpokesOrc for
BAAWA, a militant atheist Hate Group
The No True Atheist Fallacy in action! B^p
>> But a nation with "In GOd we Trust" doesn't treat him
>> like atheist regimes treated theists, spilling their blood,
>> they give him a job, and a chance at redeeming himself:
>>
>>>> Yes, and Steve Knight empties bed pans.
>>>
>>> Good for him
>>>
>>>> That's great.
>>>
>>> I know.
>>
>> Then you can see the vast difference between the civilisation
>> which majority religious societies evolved, despite some flaws
>> along the way, which includes atheists,
>> and the unmitigated disaster of EVERY atheist state which were
>> intolerant, murderous shitholes.
>>
>> Atheism has failed, killing millions.
>>
>>>> But not what I'm talking about as the great contributions to
>>>> Chemistry and Surgery, the Bloodstream.. the idea of the Hospice
>>>> the vast network of hospitals, schools and charities....
>>>
>>> Ah humanism, didn`t you forget that cutting on corpses was forbidden
>>> by the
>>> church?
>>
>> You confuse the spiritual baby with the Church bathwater.
>>
>> No one said the human institution was perfect and flawless,
>> just that it evolved under spiritual guidance, over centuries,
>> and produced something better that any atheist regime.
>>
>> It dragged mankind out of it's primitive state to where we are now.
>>
>> Godless atheism in the modern era, in living memory, dragged
>> humanity back into barbarism.. theh 20th century was a bloodbath
>> of secular ideologies; Atheism, Facism, Communism, Nazism, Colonialism,
>> Nationalism, Imperialism, Racism
>>
>> The majority religious societies which have created and sustained
>> the secular democracies in which even you atheists prefer to live,
>> are not perfect, but they are the most progressive on the planet.
>>
>> Under Islam, people paid taxes to live in a civilisation that was
>> more advanced that others at that time, today it's the same everywhere.
>>
>>> Humanism allowed that and furthered our knowledge.
>>
>> Humanism, in the West, as the Enlightenment, Wilberforce and Martin
>> Luther King demonstrate, grows out of the spiritual traditions of
>> Judeao-Christian-Islamic civilisation.
>>
>>> Besides that, many charities here who have no religious funding or
>>> origin.
>>
>> Sure, now the secular state, not atheist ones, does much of the work
>> ORIGINALLY DONE by religion.
>>
>> Put the horse before the cart.
>>
>>> But still the other point, you can heal by the holy spirit,
>>
>> Can you? please demonstrate you claim.
>>
>> My aunt pat has cancer.. you heal her (a spirit can operate
>> at a distance, I take it, not being encumbered by materiality)
>> and I will let you know in a week if your claim is true.
>>
>> > doesn`t cost a penny so why don`t all those christians heal everyone?
>>
>> Why are you asking me? I'm not a Christian and have no authority
>> to speak on behalf of any religion.
>>
>> But if you want my view. Stick with Medicine as a way to express your
>> faith, like all the great scientists from Ibn Sina to Pasteur, from
>> Galileo to Newton, did.
>>
>>
>> eg
>>
>> "Jabir ibn Hayyan or "Geber", as he was also called, applied the
>> scientific method to the study of alchemy circa 800 AD. Many people
>> consider him to be the Father of Chemistry. Another popular choice for
>> the title of Father of Chemistry is Antoine Lavoisier, who listed
>> elements, described properties of matter, helped to revise and
>> standardize chemistry nomenclature and made a host of other contribution
>> to the field of chemistry. Lavoisier sometimes is known as the Father of
>> Modern Chemistry, to distinguish his work from contributions made before
>> chemistry was a true science."
>>
>> Geber was a Muslim, Antoine Lavoisier, a Catholic,
>> 'Was Executed by "Enlightened / Goddess of Reason" French
>> Revolutionaries' i.e. your lot
>>
>>
http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2010/08/antoine-lavoisier-great-catholic.html
>>
>>
>> "Why is it that we always hear, ad nauseum, about Galileo and how he was
>> persecuted by the Catholic Church for saying that the earth went around
>> the sun?"
>>
>> After all Galileo (and Copernicus, and Tycho) were CHRISTIANS,
>> not atheists) and he was bullied, not executed like Laviosier, and
>> 60,000,000 other victims of atheist intolerance and persecution.
In the atheist regimes which Ravin is an APOLOGIST for, the public
profession of faith is FORBIDDEN, theists and priests arrested,
terrorised, tortured and murdered..
> Isn't it grand to have religion relegated to a private
> matter, like it belongs?
Only if you are an atheist tyrant (or a fascist) who denies
the right of all people the freedom to think and to believe, and
to share that faith publicly with others..
So your endorsement of persecution, where the religious are
afraid to attend their synagogue, and cower in their homes
for fear of the Terror, is shocking, but not a surprise.
After all, that is precisely the fear and despair that the atheist
Red Terror induced in people:
#
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
# - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
# Characteristics and Consequences,
# David Kowalewski,
# Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
#
# "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia’s Buddhist religion:
# monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
# Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
# other religious sentiments were often killed.
# ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
# and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
# and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
# starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
# prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
# instead of the family.
#
# About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot’s regime."
# -
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
#
# The Cambodian Genocide:
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg
#
# "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
# regarded by the regime as social parasites,
# were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
# Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
# destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
# Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
# rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
# or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
# were often killed.
#
# The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
# persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
# Phnom Penh was completely razed.
#
# The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
# regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
# Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
# -
http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
#
# "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
# because of their religion."
#
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/CANDEMIELDA/44camboyano.jpg
#
#
# "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
# - Daniel Peris,
# "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
# Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
#
#
# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
# - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
# Wolak, Arthur J. p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.
>> If atheists are going to endlessly regurgitate the Crusades, the
>> Inquisition, Witch Burning, paedophile priests then they need to
>> face up to the FAR GREATER ATHEIST HOLOCAUSTS! No religion has
>> killedd over 60,000,000 people that's the work of atheist regimes..
>> and it wasn't in Medieval times, during the long slow evolution from
>> barbarism everywhere.. it was in the modern Era! 8^o
>>
>> Atheism REGRESSED humanity, majority religious societies evolved
>> the modern free secular democracies which today take over the
>> work traditionally done by Church or Mosque, because today these
>> societies are multi-faith, multi-ethnic, multi-cultural and pluralist.
>>
>> > It only costs some time according to your religion,
>>
>> I'm an agnostic. Try to speak from reasoned logic knowledge
>> and facts, as I do, rather than from your ignorance, prejudice and
>> delusions.
>>
>>> you selfish bastards,
>>
>> agnostics? What have we done?
>>
>> It's your Atheist State tyrannies that terrorised tortured and killed
>> over 60,000,000 in the name of ATHEISM, not agnostics.
>>
>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "We must combat religion"
>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> “Down with religion and long live atheism;
>> the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>>
>>> and now you let atheists science do it for you.
>>
>> "atheist science"? there is no such thing.
>>
>> There is just science.
>>
>> And most of it, as history shows, has been done by theists.
>>
>> Tell us, what is there in atheism that uniquely contributes
>> to science something that it does not possess already???
>>
>>
>> ..................................................
>>
>> ..................................................
>>
>> Any other atheist can have a go.
Apparently no atheist can think of a single thing.
--
Ex- Atheist, now Prophet, Richard Dawkins claims a "superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy" entity, "like God", is plausible and
could have 'evolved' somewhere in the Universe "by an explicable
scientific progression of incremental evolution", (which no
atheist can explain). B^D
# "After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks far afield.
# He talks of the possibility that we might co-evolve with computers, a
# silicon destiny. And he’s intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring
# writings of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
#
# 'In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative years
# into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have evolved into
# something like bolts of superpowerful intelligent and moral energy.
#
# Doesn’t that description sound an awful lot like God?
#
# "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It’s highly plausible that
# in the universe there are God-like creatures."
#
# He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks he’s gone around a
# religious bend. "It’s very important to understand that these Gods
# came into being by an explicable scientific progression of
# incremental evolution."'
#
# Could they be immortal? The professor shrugs.
#
# “Probably not.” He smiles and adds, “But I
# wouldn’t want to be too dogmatic about that.”"
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
So, which atheist is going to explain the inexplicable,
unscientific, BELIEF in "these {atheist] Gods", with no proof
whatsoever, and show us the evidence of how, and where, God evolved?
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"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
“Down with religion and long live atheism;
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- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
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