OK, let's have a fruitful chat about the Forbidden Fruit
LionWhisperer
> imo you should be a forbidden fruit, and i aint xtian ;-)
Why am I forbidden??? ;)
There shouldn't be anything forbidden unless it hurts somebody. I
don't have a clue why God forbid the fruit that should have been good
to eat.
In evolution you learn by trying all the fruits, so you can tell the
good... from the poisonous.
If someone ate the wrong fruit... it should be considered a martyr! I
guess the first martyr for the Banana Revolution. ;)
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Jungle Lessons
"Before you go into the jungle, learn what fruits to eat."
LionTeaser
> > (Why a teaser? Because my job is to tease the lion until he roars...
> > and thus he's exposed as a beast.)
>
> hmmm, so you make some sort of distinction between man and beasts?
> There have been many works portraying humans as animals, that have
> worked very well for the effect, yet you have somehow excluded
> yourself from this possibility. You know monkeys tend to be prone to
> this mischief.
Well, I used to be King of the Apes in my other incarnation, so I'm
not that far off the monkeys.
Sometimes I feel like they are distant relative, and sometimes I feel
them playing tricks inside me.
I can't get myself to feel like a sheep or serpent, some familiar
animals in the Christian menagerie.
If one believes in evolution though sometimes one feels like a rat is
sniffing around, which the Christians deny despite the fact that a lot
of the medical research is done on them before tried on humans. And
there must be a reason for that...
In other words, that HUMANS AND ANIMALS ARE ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY. ;)
Smiler
> On Dec 9, 11:15 am, showmethehoney <alenasha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> imo you should be a forbidden fruit, and i aint xtian ;-)
>
> Why am I forbidden??? ;)
>
> There shouldn't be anything forbidden unless it hurts somebody. I
> don't have a clue why God forbid the fruit that should have been good
> to eat.
>
> In evolution you learn by trying all the fruits, so you can tell the
> good... from the poisonous.
>
All fungi are edible........................once.
--
Smiler
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
All gods are bespoke. They're all made to
perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
jonnie
"LionWhisperer" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 9, 11:15 am, showmethehoney <alenasha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> imo you should be a forbidden fruit, and i aint xtian ;-)
>
> Why am I forbidden??? ;)
>
> There shouldn't be anything forbidden unless it hurts somebody. I
> don't have a clue why God forbid the fruit that should have been good
> to eat.
>
> In evolution you learn by trying all the fruits, so you can tell the
> good... from the poisonous.
>
> If someone ate the wrong fruit... it should be considered a martyr! I
> guess the first martyr for the Banana Revolution. ;)
>
>
mushrooms are fruit. so is bud, smokem
Uncle Vic
wrote:
> There shouldn't be anything forbidden unless it hurts somebody. I
> don't have a clue why God forbid the fruit that should have been good
> to eat.
It's from the Tree of Knowledge, remember? And nothing hurts religion more
than knowledge.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
your face when you push them down the stairs.
LionTeaser
> One fine day in alt.atheism, LionWhisperer <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > There shouldn't be anything forbidden unless it hurts somebody. I
> > don't have a clue why God forbid the fruit that should have been good
> > to eat.
>
> It's from the Tree of Knowledge, remember? And nothing hurts religion more
> than knowledge.
That's true, KNOWLEDGE IS FORBIDDEN.
Then God gave a list of edible fruits to Adam and Eve...
Father Haskell
> If one believes in evolution though sometimes one feels like a rat is
> sniffing around, which the Christians deny despite the fact that a lot
> of the medical research is done on them before tried on humans. And
> there must be a reason for that...
Rats have benefitted us more than they've harmed us.
Wish I could say the same for religion.
Uncle Vic
But forgot to tell them what disobediance was.
LionTeaser
They also killed a lot of Christians in the Middle Ages...
And some fools thought the Black Plague was divine punishment.
LionTeaser
> One fine day in alt.atheism, LionTeaser <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 13, 10:29 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
> >> One fine day in alt.atheism, LionWhisperer <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > There shouldn't be anything forbidden unless it hurts somebody. I
> >> > don't have a clue why God forbid the fruit that should have been good
> >> > to eat.
>
> >> It's from the Tree of Knowledge, remember? And nothing hurts religion
> > more
> >> than knowledge.
>
> > That's true, KNOWLEDGE IS FORBIDDEN.
>
> > Then God gave a list of edible fruits to Adam and Eve...
>
> But forgot to tell them what disobediance was.
If God had been smart he would have told Eve that the Forbidden Fruit
was poisonous, and if she ate it she would die. Then God would have
creater another Eve.
But God doesn't seem to be any smarter than the Christians.
LionTeaser
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:29:20 -0600, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com>
> >> don't have a clue why God forbid the fruit that should have been good
> >> to eat.
>
> >than knowledge.
>
>
> Before eating the fruit they did not know good from evil so they
> obviously did not know that god was supposedly good and the
> serpent evil.
>
> This god placed them in the garden naked so presumably it
> considered being naked as good and honest. Only the sinner
> has something to hide. Once they ate the fruit they decided they
> had something to hide and so were clearly sinners. Their 'clothing'
> being the sign. Hence they were chukked out of the garden.
>
> Aas long as Christians wear clothes their god will see they have
> somethng to hide and are sinners. Until they strip off the devilss
> garb Christians will never get into heaven.
>
> Thus the female stripper or nude performer has a much
> better chance of getting to heaven than the overdressed
> Pope or Arch Bish of Cant both of whom clearly have much to
>
That's what I say when I go to the nudist beach... Nudists seem to be
a far more peaceful crowd than the Christians. They are not into the
materialistic stuff, and say LIFE'S A BEACH.
But I dress back when I come to the Christian world.
Jimbo
Actually, the Black Plague was, albeit tragic, helpful as well. When
the plague hit, the priests and nobility all took to the hills in the
hope of escaping the plague, priests refused to see their
congregation, and most importantly, refused to give last rites. In
those days, not getting last rites was absolutely tantamount to being
forever barred from Heaven. This caused a crisis of faith amoung the
survivors, and people would never look at the church the same way
again, particularly as the one and only artiber and keeper of
knowledge. In other words, slowly, haltingly, people started to
think outside of church edicts and docterine, and began the slow crawl
towards the enlightenment.
Jimbo
What happened to Lillith? :D
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Jimbo
Have you ever tried to fight someone when you're both naked? It's
psychologically damaging. :D
They are not into the
> materialistic stuff, and say LIFE'S A BEACH.
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Dan Listermann
"Jimbo" <ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"What happened to Lillith? :D"Hey, sitting around a campfire, probably with
a little wine, you can't be expected to cover every base when you are
mythmaking, OK?
LionTeaser
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Only ladies so far. But like I said, they are a peaceful bunch.
There's a guy though that I call United Selfish of America. He plants
American flags in a square area that he claims himself. But most
people are friendly. I have even exchanged fruits with a lady, but
never the banana, of course.
LionTeaser
species of the jungle listening? ;)
(This guy has been through my jungle on a bike and survived... but he
questions that the Christians are to blame for the jungle)
On Dec 13, 9:38 pm, Ron Wallenfang <rwallenf...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> > I've challenged you and anyone else out there to come here and face
> > this jungle. We make a movie and we'll be celebrities going safari!
>
> > But you seem to be more stupid than the beast.
>
> As per a previous exchange we've had, I have biked through your
> "jungle" in Miami, and did not find it easy, at least not on US 1
> coming up from the south.
>
> You have often asserted that "Christian" motorists are responsible for
> the danger. If this were so and Miami is uniquely dangerous, we ought
> to find a huge concentration of Christian Church-goers in Miami. So I
> checked it out and, guess what, there isn't. My research source here
> is Dave Olson atwww.TheAmericanChurch.org. According to its national
> statistics, weekly Christian Church attendance in Florida is
> substandard at 15%, and Dade County is below the Florida average.
> North Dakota is tied (with LA) for first with just under 30%. I
> single out North Dakota, because two of my most pleasant long bike
> trip segments were in ND. One is atwww.crazyguyonabike.com/doc4786-
> see days 10-12, especially 12. I'll give the cite for the other is a
> follow-up post. Wisconsin, where I live is not far behind the
> leaders, and also is a very good place to bike ride.
You are a true SURVIVOR of the jungle! Maybe you shuld send your
report to...
http://comebackalive.com/site3.php?page_id=9&sub_section_id=USA&sub_sub_section_id=things
Anyway, I don't even define myself as an atheist. I guess I belong
with Mark Twain in questioning things like Religion and Politics...
"The motto stated a lie. If this nation has ever trusted in God, that
time has gone by; for nearly half a century almost its entire trust
has been in the Republican party and the dollar--mainly the dollar. I
recognize that I am only making an assertion and furnishing no proof;
I am sorry, but this is a habit of mine; sorry also that I am not
alone in it; everybody seems to have this disease."
- Mark Twain in Eruption
Anyway, I'm aiming at a trilogy formed by Government, Religion and
Corporations... Where one begins and the other one ends is hard to
know. I can't address government and corporations though this forum,
but I can reach the only organized party I know: THE CHRISTIANS. They
voted Bush into office on issues like the war, gays and abortion. I
can also blame the Republicans for it, but this is not fair either.
SUVs and Globalization came into fashion under Clinton. And chances
are things won't be fixed under Obama either.
Why don't we drop the "In God we trust" from the mighty dollar and
start facing the problem at the source? What's the source and the
bottom end of it? THE DOLLAR. We can't ride bikes because it's not
convenient and comfortable for the trilogy. I'm sure there are many
people out there questioning things, and they may be Christian...
fine!
Justice can come through in many ways: Jesus inspired Gandhi, and
Gandhi inspired M.L. King. My praise to them. But we are dealing with
a nation that casually defines itself as Christian and yet it's part
of the worst predation. It may be good for the casual observer, but
not for the li-on hunter (hunter of the lie)... that's pure
CAMOUFLAGE.
LionTeaser
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:58:00 -0800 (PST), LionWhisperer
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 9, 11:15 am, showmethehoney <alenasha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> imo you should be a forbidden fruit, and i aint xtian ;-)
>
> >Why am I forbidden??? ;)
>
> >don't have a clue why God forbid the fruit that should have been good
> >to eat.
>
> afflicted with diseases and natural disasters. It is the fall of
> man. It is the basis for salvation. Without the fruit event, there
> would be no need for good old Jebus and "God" wouldn't
> have an excuse to roast sinners in hell.
I think Religion is not only clueless but also fruitless... ;)
And three major religions --that hate each other-- are based in this
catastrophic fruit event?
Could it be that another fruit saves the world? There's a lot of hope
with the Banana Revolution. We should practice the banana dance for
the event...
Teresita
> And some fools thought the Black Plague was divine punishment.
Today the fools would blame it on a lack of federal funding.
--
Teresita
http://hackylinux.blogspot.com/
Jimbo
> "Jimbo" <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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LOL!
LionTeaser
I was referring to those fools who went around whipping themselves
seeking penance for their sins... What's their name?
Today we can blame the lack of Universal Healthcare for many sins. But
I don't think the Christians are even on the right side of the issue.
Their president denied children that benefit, and they stood by
silently...
Worst SOCIAL DARWINISM I've seen.
Jimbo
No, I mean a real knock down, drag-out fight. I know some martial
arts disciplines that require a naked match as part of a desensitizing
regiment. If you can fight another man naked, you can fight anyone,
anywhere.
>
> Only ladies so far. But like I said, they are a peaceful bunch.
>
> There's a guy though that I call United Selfish of America. He plants
> American flags in a square area that he claims himself. But most
> people are friendly. I have even exchanged fruits with a lady, but
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LionTeaser
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> On Dec 14, 9:44 am, LionTeaser <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Dec 14, 1:55 am, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
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> > > One fine day in alt.atheism, LionTeaser <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 13, 10:29 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
> > > >> One fine day in alt.atheism, LionWhisperer <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > > >> wrote:
>
> > > >> > don't have a clue why God forbid the fruit that should have been good
> > > >> > to eat.
>
> > > > more
> > > >> than knowledge.
>
>
> > > > Then God gave a list of edible fruits to Adam and Eve...
>
> > > But forgot to tell them what disobediance was.
>
> > If God had been smart he would have told Eve that the Forbidden Fruit
> > was poisonous, and if she ate it she would die. Then God would have
> > creater another Eve.
>
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The idiots made God or God made the idiots?
hypa...@comcast.net
The idiots created their gods.
LionTeaser
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I created a monkey that's smarter than that. He questions everything
that the idiots say.
But I think the Devil is smarter than God in making Eve go his way. ;)
Father Haskell
> On Dec 13, 10:15 pm, Teresita <ruby...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:42:24 -0800, LionTeaser wrote:
> > > And some fools thought the Black Plague was divine punishment.
>
> > Today the fools would blame it on a lack of federal funding.
>
> > --
> > Teresitahttp://hackylinux.blogspot.com/
>
> I was referring to those fools who went around whipping themselves
> seeking penance for their sins... What's their name?
Flagellants and/or Opus Dei.
Uncle Vic
wrote:
>>
>> > That's true, KNOWLEDGE IS FORBIDDEN.
>>
>> > Then God gave a list of edible fruits to Adam and Eve...
>>
>> But forgot to tell them what disobediance was.
>
> If God had been smart he would have told Eve that the Forbidden Fruit
> was poisonous, and if she ate it she would die. Then God would have
> creater another Eve.
But that would have been a LIE. God never lies to us, does He? Unless,
of course, he dictated the Holy Bible to us, like the angel that
translated the Golden Plates to Jonathan Smith? Heh... Funny how this
was all done behind a veil of some kind.
>
> But God doesn't seem to be any smarter than the Christians.
>
It's the Christians that don't seem to be any smarter than themselves.
Earle Jones
<8a74c7c3-ab5f-48b4...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
LionTeaser <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
*
"Man created God in his own image."
--Marvin 3:16
earle
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LionTeaser
> On Dec 15, 5:23 pm, LionTeaser <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > If a snake spoke to me, I'd better pay attention. First of all, snakes
> > never talk. Secondly, the snakes tells me to take it, so it's not
> > stealing. Thirdly, I'd want to be wise, which was the excuse of the
> > serpent. So even if Eve was dumb, she wanted to have knowledge and
> > that's quite a way to go. So a smart God would have given her high
> > praise instead of dooming her AND humanity to deat and suffering.
>
> That illustrates my point. People make excuses about why it's OK to
> steal, yet stealing sure causes a lot of anger and grief to the
> victim. I think even the people that wrote the story down didn't get
> the moral of its impact. If you steal, you bar entrance to Paradise.
Then you'd love Islam. I hear they can chop off your arm for stealing
and that's it.
Still not as cruel as God dooming the whole of humanity for Eve's
falling to temptation, something the Christians do EVERY DAY!