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[David Canzi]

Seven billion is the number of people that could stand on Zanzibar.

--
David Canzi | Every reasonable assumption is wrong.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <k5mk5b$73u$2...@rumours.uwaterloo.ca>,

"David Canzi" <dmc...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

> Seven billion is the number of people that could stand on Zanzibar.

Ahhh, great book.

--
JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[malj]

On 18/10/2012 03:44, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <k5mk5b$73u$2...@rumours.uwaterloo.ca>,
> "David Canzi" <dmc...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>
>> Seven billion is the number of people that could stand on Zanzibar.
>
> Ahhh, great book.
>

Agree.... but I still worry about Heinlein's (sp?) politics...

MalJ

--
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(and see how little walking I've done recently..)

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:26:38 +0100, malj <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>On 18/10/2012 03:44, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> In article <k5mk5b$73u$2...@rumours.uwaterloo.ca>,
>> "David Canzi" <dmc...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Seven billion is the number of people that could stand on Zanzibar.
>>
>> Ahhh, great book.
>>
>Agree.... but I still worry about Heinlein's (sp?) politics...
>
>MalJ

They didn't make sense to me until I moved to the USA.

[hypa...@gmail.com]

What's to worry about? Heinlein was a right-winger who died several
years ago. He was also an atheist. Plus, he wrote a lot of books that
weren't outright political, though several were in a fictional way.
I'm a leftie but I was influenced by his writing when I was a kid.
It wore off. But, I'll still go back and reread one of his books
every now and then - anything from The Day After Tomorrow (Sixth Column)
to Puppet Masters to The Door Into Summer. I like his early stuff best.

[hypa...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:15:44 PM UTC-4, Christopher A. Lee wrote:

Stand on Zanzibar was written by John Brunner.

[Christopher A. Lee]

He was a gun-nut whose heroes had huge arsenals, he was a private
enterprise nut for whom the first flight to the moon was by a rich,
dying businessman, his politicians were all corrupt, etc.

He did have a way of getting a lot of meaning into a short phrase
though, one of my favourites was "the door dilated" - a simple
throwaway phrase that carried so much information.

And of course I regularly use his "One man's religion is another man's
belly laugh". Which is so obvious theists have to be remarkably stupid
not to realise it.

[Christopher A. Lee]

I know.

I found much of his stuff depressing.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <7c09e0e0-f195-48b7...@googlegroups.com>,

Heinlein is my very favorite!

And I would call him libertarian rather than right-wing. He wasn't at
all interested in controlling people's private lives.

[hypa...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:17:09 PM UTC-5, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <7c09e0e0-f195-48b7...@googlegroups.com>,
> hypa...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:15:44 PM UTC-4, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> > > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:26:38 +0100, malj <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> > > >On 18/10/2012 03:44, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > > >> In article <k5mk5b$73u$2...@rumours.uwaterloo.ca>,
> > > >> "David Canzi" <dmc...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:

> > > >>> Seven billion is the number of people that could stand on Zanzibar.
>
> > > >> Ahhh, great book.
>
> > > >Agree.... but I still worry about Heinlein's (sp?) politics...
>

> > > They didn't make sense to me until I moved to the USA.
>
> > What's to worry about? Heinlein was a right-winger who died several
> > years ago. He was also an atheist. Plus, he wrote a lot of books that
> > weren't outright political, though several were in a fictional way.
> > I'm a leftie but I was influenced by his writing when I was a kid.
> > It wore off. But, I'll still go back and reread one of his books
> > every now and then - anything from The Day After Tomorrow (Sixth Column)
> > to Puppet Masters to The Door Into Summer. I like his early stuff best.
>
> Heinlein is my very favorite!
>
> And I would call him libertarian rather than right-wing. He wasn't at
> all interested in controlling people's private lives.

Heinlein was my favorite sf writer for years - childhood and on into
my twenties. I was a little military monster when I was a kid, but
quickly outgrew that by my late teens. Still loved many of his books
and still do. (I actually wanted to go to the Air Force Academy, until
I realized that I was blind as a bat and couldn't do math. Of course
I was a Democrat because my parent were, But, that was also the same
time I realized that I really was a Democrat. Later on, I realized that
I was a Liberal and later still a Progressive.

I know that Heinlein was a Libertarian, but many Libertarians lean
toward the Republicans. Heinlein leaned more right than left, though
I truly doubt that he would support the loons running these days. He
was a strong atheist, and wouldn't put up with the current religious
nonsense. (And, I can just imagine what Asimov, another atheist, would
have to say about them, too.)

[hypa...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:56:54 AM UTC-5, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 00:16:42 -0800 (PST), hypa...@gmail.com wrote:
> >On Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:15:44 PM UTC-4, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:26:38 +0100, malj <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> >> >On 18/10/2012 03:44, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> >> >> In article <k5mk5b$73u$2...@rumours.uwaterloo.ca>,
> > >> "David Canzi" <dmc...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>
> >> >>> Seven billion is the number of people that could stand on Zanzibar.
>
> >> >> Ahhh, great book.
>
> >> >Agree.... but I still worry about Heinlein's (sp?) politics...
>

> >> They didn't make sense to me until I moved to the USA.
>
> >Stand on Zanzibar was written by John Brunner.
>
> I know.
>
> I found much of his stuff depressing.

I accidentally mispronounced his name when I met him at a WorldCon.
He puffed up like a porcupine with his bristles in plain view. I'd
never heard his name pronounced before he huffed it out, embarrassing
the hell out of 20 year old me. And, I agree with you. His stuff is
depressing. I also met Lin Carter at the same party that my friends
and I had wandered into not realizing that it was just for writers.
Lin Carter took pity on us and talked the others into letting us stay.
Brunner had wanted us to leave. Silverberg voted for us to stay. Once
that was decided, everyone was very nice. We stayed for about half an
hour, then, not wanting to take advantage of their generosity, we left.
I'm pretty sure it was NYCon III in 1967.

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 21:59:07 -0800 (PST), hypa...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:56:54 AM UTC-5, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 00:16:42 -0800 (PST), hypa...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >On Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:15:44 PM UTC-4, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:26:38 +0100, malj <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >On 18/10/2012 03:44, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> >> >> In article <k5mk5b$73u$2...@rumours.uwaterloo.ca>,
>> > >> "David Canzi" <dmc...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >> >>> Seven billion is the number of people that could stand on Zanzibar.
>>
>> >> >> Ahhh, great book.
>>
>> >> >Agree.... but I still worry about Heinlein's (sp?) politics...
>>
>> >> They didn't make sense to me until I moved to the USA.
>>
>> >Stand on Zanzibar was written by John Brunner.
>>
>> I know.
>>
>> I found much of his stuff depressing.
>
>I accidentally mispronounced his name when I met him at a WorldCon.
>He puffed up like a porcupine with his bristles in plain view. I'd
>never heard his name pronounced before he huffed it out, embarrassing
>the hell out of 20 year old me.

How did he pronounce it?

I always assumed it was like "Br(oo)nner with avery short "oo" rather
than a "u", because of a German or possibly Scandiwegian origin.

[M Purcell]

On Dec 3 2012, 8:57 pm, hypati...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:17:09 PM UTC-5, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > In article <7c09e0e0-f195-48b7...@googlegroups.com>,

> >  hypati...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:15:44 PM UTC-4, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 18:26:38 +0100, malj <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >On 18/10/2012 03:44, Jeanne Douglas wrote:

> > > > >> In article <k5mk5b$73...@rumours.uwaterloo.ca>,

Don't know about Libertairian, Heinlein seemed to be ecologically
minded. I wanted to go to the Air Force Academy until I realized I'd
have to give up some of my rights and that I had a problem with
authority.