Jupiter, The Moon, and Me
Painius
a few hours it will be gone, perhaps forever...
Selene (the Moon) and Jupiter are very close
together tonight, once again proving how
very much like a planet Selene is. Selene is
only a mere, tiny five degrees off the plane
of Earth's orbit around the Sun (the ecliptic).
Just like a major planet would be!
Since satellites have a marked tendency to
orbit a planet in the *equatorial* plane, this
puts a damper on thinking that the Moon is
a satellite.
And what's that beautiful little twinkler so
near to Selene and almost in the direction of
Jupiter?
Why that's the bright star, Antares! in the
head of the Scorpion! (constellation of
Scorpius) and that's me. Yup, that's me, all
right. I'm a natural born Scorpio.
Yeah, i know... it explains a lot. <g>
--
happy days and...
starry starry nights!
If you need love by the ton,
Catch yourself a scorpion!
Just be careful, don't get stung!
Wip it good and then you're done.
Indelibly yours,
Paine
http://www.savethechildren.org/
http://www.painellsworth.net
Double-A
> Quick! Look up! Don't miss it, because in
> a few hours it will be gone, perhaps forever...
>
> Selene (the Moon) and Jupiter are very close
> together tonight, once again proving how
> very much like a planet Selene is. Selene is
> only a mere, tiny five degrees off the plane
> of Earth's orbit around the Sun (the ecliptic).
> Just like a major planet would be!
>
> Since satellites have a marked tendency to
> orbit a planet in the *equatorial* plane, this
> puts a damper on thinking that the Moon is
> a satellite.
>
> And what's that beautiful little twinkler so
> near to Selene and almost in the direction of
> Jupiter?
>
> Why that's the bright star, Antares! in the
> head of the Scorpion! (constellation of
> Scorpius) and that's me. Yup, that's me, all
> right. I'm a natural born Scorpio.
>
> Yeah, i know... it explains a lot. <g>
>
> --
Yes, when I took a walk of a couple miles tonight, I saw the beautiful
Selene in perfect half-lit phase, right next to red Antares, and below
bright Jupiter. A few nights ago, the Moon had been a mere sliver in
the sky. But Jupiter has been over Antares for quite some time now.
An exceptionally clear night in spite of the high humidity. Yet the
Moon did finally set behind a cloud bank.
I was reading that some astronomers do classify the Selene as a
terrestrial planet.
Double-A
John Zinni
>
> Why that's the bright star, Antares! in the
> head of the Scorpion!
"Antares is a red binary star, fiery red and emerald green, near the
center of the constellation Scorpius and was sometimes called "the
***Heart*** of the Scorpion"."
http://users.winshop.com.au/annew/Antares.html
"Antares, marking the Scorpion's ***heart***, is a red supergiant and
the brightest star in Scorpio."
http://www.souledout.org/cosmology/highlights/antares/antares.html
"The bright star Antares marks the ***heart*** of the arachnid, and
its long curving tail trails to the south."
http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/the_universe/Constellations/summer/scorpio.html
"Antares, brightest star of Scorpius, marking the ***heart*** of the
Scorpion,"
http://www.clarkfoundation.org/astro-utah/vondel/scorpius.html
"Antares, a class M (M1.5) red supergiant gleaming redly at the
scorpion's ***heart***, has a color similar to Mars."
http://www.astro.uiuc.edu/~kaler/sow/antares.html
"The ***heart*** of Scorpius is marked by brilliant orange-red
Antares, a name that means the rival of Mars (Ares)."
http://www.rasnz.org.nz/Stars/Scorpius.htm
etc.
Painius
BABBLED in message
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Why, *thank* you, John! There i go...
...thimking with my ***heart*** again. <g>
(If you liked *that*, you're gonna *LOVE* that
the other night, when Selene was more a sliver
of crescent and four nights away from close
proximity to Jupiter and Antares, i incorrectly
told my son that Antares was in the ***tail***
of the scorpion! MYBAD)
happy days...
starry starry nights...
and few senior moments!
--
Heard a question the other day,
Seem it a soulful sign--
If you wouldn't say it in person, then
Why say it online?
Painius
"Double-A" <doub...@hush.ai> wrote in message
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I've been reading this a lot more lately, too, AA!
Maybe the IAU and the rest of astronomy will
soon come around to Asimov's thinking?
It's not easy going without a ninth major planet,
& Selene is the obvious choice to fill in for the
esteemed Pluto/Charon double dwarf-planetary
system!
happy days and...
starry starry nights!
--
The Moon! Selene, as the Greeks once said,
was a Goddess, a Planet, not a moon instead,
and they were right! Light the Fire and Fan it--
Selene is a full-fledged major planet!
"But how can this be??? my mind can't span it,
the Moon's been a satellite my whole life, dang it!"
SO... study the Moon and soon you'll know--
it's NOT a true satellite as satellites go...
http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/q1665.html
http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/teaching/convex.html
http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/nineplanets/nineplanets/luna.html
John Zinni
>
> (If you liked *that*, you're gonna *LOVE* that
> the other night, when Selene was more a sliver
> of crescent and four nights away from close
> proximity to Jupiter and Antares, i incorrectly
> told my son that Antares was in the ***tail***
> of the scorpion! MYBAD)
That's great ...
... and do you tell your son all about BS's "SUPER DUPER SUCKING SPACE
THEORY"???
(it's good to screw them up early)
Painius
news:1187874579.6...@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
And this from someone who cannot seem to
prevail in any argument when he's asked,
"What's expanding, John? Nothing?" "What
*precisely* is undergoing accelerated growth
and expansion on the level of the Cosmos,
John? A ***VOID***???"
If you think space sucks super duper so much,
John, then why do you post to a group that's
about space? Why do you profess to like the
science of astronomy, John, when your void
space dogma stands for *nothing* and leads
absolutely *nowhere*???
Spacetime is comprised of a field of energy,
John, energy that flows into matter and that
causes gravity. Get used to it.
Either that or come up with evidence that
gravitational fields are generated by matter.
I drop a body from the roof of a ten-story
building, John... exactly how does the Earth
"reach up", grab that body and pull it down,
crushing every bone, bleeding out every red
corpuscle? Is the body sucked into the Earth
by avid gravitons? Does gravitational energy
flow *out* from the Earth, engulf the body
in some kind of gravitational glow that pulls
the body so hard it accelerates up to the air-
resistance limit?
How does that work, oh ye who never made
a fucking mistake in your whole worthless,
gutless, lackluster life? <g>
happy days and...
starry starry nights!
--
John Zinni
> "John Zinni" <j_zinni.NOC...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
That was a nice little rant. You should really watch your blood
pressure.
Double-A
I suppose you would tell your kids that every theory they read in a
current day, mainstream science book is complete, inerrant,
infallible, and never to be questioned!
They will someday make great bureaucrats ... at the Vatican!
Double-A
oldcoot
huh? :-)
On Aug 23, 10:18 am, "Painius" <starswirlern wrote, inquiring of db:
>
> Why do you profess to like the
> science of astronomy... when your void
> space dogma stands for *nothing* and leads
> absolutely *nowhere*???
>
Well i gotta respectfully disagree that it's led "nowhere". It's led
to the most phantasmically bizarre misadventure in the history of
science. It's led to the need to *invent*, out of whole cloth, fixes
and patches to make an impossible paradigm 'work'. And every time it
bogs down, *more* ad hoc kludges have to be added.. the modern day
equivalent of "adding epicycles". Hell, look at 'dark matter', 'dark
energy', "eleven dimensions", just to name a few.
It's led to the belief in magic: "flying messengers"
that somehow "know" to fly at the fixed velocity c everywhere, at all
times, even when out of lightspeed communication with their brethren
on opposite sides
of the universe. Geometry and 'curvature' of Nothing somehow POWER
the herculean feats that gravity routinely performs.. such as the
compressional sequence culminating in a supernova blast.
It's led to a science that substitutes
*descriptions of effects* for
_explanations of cause_. It's led to the 'holy grail' of science, the
unification of gravity in a UFTOE/GUT being forever unattainable, like
chasing the rainbow. That's what it's led to. Rant mode off.
Hrrmph. :-)
As far as db's exflatulations are concerned, they don't even warrant
the
dignification of comment, IMHO.
oc
Painius
John, you have no idea how predictive you can
sometimes be! I've almost always had what
doctors like to call "borderline" high BP. Now,
with the advent of type II diabetes, this has
become something of a concern. The doc has
recently started me on "lisinopril".
Oh, lucky me.
happy days and...
starry starry nights!
--
Earth and Selene... Selene and Earth...
Sister Planets for what it's worth,
When the IAU doth issue this forth,
Oh! MAGIC 'n MUSIC it shall unearth!
Oh! MAGIC 'n MUSIC it shall give birth!
BradGuth
> a few hours it will be gone, perhaps forever...
>
> Selene (the Moon) and Jupiter are very close
> together tonight, once again proving how
> very much like a planet Selene is. Selene is
> only a mere, tiny five degrees off the plane
> of Earth's orbit around the Sun (the ecliptic).
> Just like a major planet would be!
>
> Since satellites have a marked tendency to
> orbit a planet in the *equatorial* plane, this
> puts a damper on thinking that the Moon is
> a satellite.
I agree, that our physically dark and somewhat salty old moon is
simply not made of Earth.
Once upon a time there was an icy instellar rogue planet or two headed
our way, whereas our once icy moon was one of those interstellar
trekking suckers worth perhaps 8.5e22 kg and 4000 km in diameter, with
a rocky core of 7.35e22 kg. (some lithobraking encounter was required)
The evidence of our salty moon having been thick ice covered is clear
as a chapel bell.
- Brad Guth
BradGuth
John Zinni seems more Yiddish, as being anti anything off-world is
apparently one of those required faith-based mindsets.
- Brad Guth -
oldcoot
addressing ol' brainiac:
> ... you have no idea how predictive you can
> sometimes be!
Heh. Even monkeys dancing on a keyboard can sometimes spell out a
word.
:-) oc
BradGuth
> I was reading that some astronomers do classify the Selene as a
> terrestrial planet.
Our moon/Selene is far more planet binary worthy than most, as it
simply does not fit the made-from-Earth analogy by any factor of
terrestrial or moon planetology science, other than hocus-pocus
science as based upon those highly conditional laws of physics that
gets to exclude or banish whatever rocks their good ship LOLLIPOP.
Double-A:
"They will someday make great bureaucrats ... at the Vatican!"
Media infomercial educated bureaucrats are not limited to Vatican
City, or to any other faith-based pagan cult of off-world naysayism,
especially when the given Old Testament cult is in charge of whatever
gets published or not. Their government puppets are certainly none
better than brown-nosed minions doing their faith-based and/or born-
again level best at snookering humanity for all it's worth, and then
some (just ask the likes of Hitler or GW Bush).
- Brad Guth -
Double-A
If the Moon were once an icy comet that regularly passed close to the
Sun, that would explain why it has no volitiles today.
Double-A
Art Deco
No comments on Guth's raging Yid-phobia, I see.
>that would explain why it has no volitiles today.
And you are sure of this, how?
>
>Double-A
>
>
--
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nightbat "fro0tbat" of alt.astronomy
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so that they could have the Last Word, Deco. In the newsgroups,
I could counter their lies."
--David Tholen
Art Deco
Ah, now I see why Guthball's Yid-phobia is tolerated by the saucer crew
-- he tosses slime balls in the direction of those who dare to point
out their absurdities.
Art Deco
>Do you have any idea what you are going on about?
Is this rhetorical?
Painius
news:1189089781.1...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
I just had to look that story back up for the
benefit of all. I think it's the oldest story on
UseNet!...
http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2340
In fact, i think i first heard this story from an
old electronics engineer back when i was just
starting out.
happy days and...
starry starry nights
--
A secret of the Universe,
So please don't breathe a word of this,
Selene, the Moon, will smile perverse
When e'er she sees true lovers kiss--
Breathe not a single word of this.
oldcoot
>
> In fact, i think i first heard this story from an
> old electronics engineer back when i was just
> starting out.
LOL! Love this one excerpt:
"What do you really get when you leave six monkeys alone with a
computer for a month? A colossal mess! Researchers at Plymouth
University in England reported that primates left alone with a
computer
attacked the machine and failed to produce a single word."
Sounds just like a symbiosis of the duck, the goose, and ol' brainiac
on a roll, huh??? :-)
oc
Painius
Exactly right. Just look at the mess a.a is
in thanks to their ko0ky nonsense!
G=EMC^2 Glazier
would have another Shakespeare Go figure Bert
Double-A
> oc Reality is six monkeys is not enough. 6 trillion monkeys and they
> would have another Shakespeare Go figure Bert
They should have used educated monkeys. Educated chimpanzees can now
communicate their wants and needs to humans through special
keyboards. A group of primitive, illiterate humans would do no better
than those monkeys at those keyboards.
Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier
play the piano. Bert
John "C"
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> Double-A In the Penny arcade on Revere Beach they had a duck that could
> play the piano. Bert
We used to have a stupid duck that would "hump" every post that Art Deco
made.
CHJ
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John "C"
"Bob Officer" <bobof...@127.0.0.7> wrote in message
> On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 16:19:51 -0600, in alt.astronomy, Art Deco
> <er...@caballista.org> wrote:
> >Is this rhetorical?
>
> Slurp...Slurp...Suck...Suck...<bang>...Swallow...Swallow...thanks Art, I
luv you!
You sick Gay-Rods need to get a room and shut-the fuck-up!
HJ
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nightbat
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Science Officer Bert
> Double-A In the Penny arcade on Revere Beach they had a duck that could
> play the piano. Bert
>
nightbat
That Daffy sure got around!
carry on,
the nightbat