Nick Charles <the.thin@man> wrote:
> On 1/23/2024 3:54 AM, Daniel65 wrote:
>> Nick Charles wrote on 23/1/24 5:50 am:
>>> On 1/22/2024 12:17 PM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
>>>> Now that time has passed, who knows... maybe I have captured
>>>> evidence of "Weather Modification" Testing...
>>>>
>>>>
https://youtu.be/Pj4E6sW5QoA?si=68OGIPGIZkLNQ78_
>>>
>>> Were you high when you took that pic????? Its called sunlight passing
>>> thru clouds on Earth.?? There are no "chemical clouds in space".
>>
>> Or, more to the point, "sunlight *NOT* passing thru clouds on Earth". ;-P
>
> LOL, exactly.
I dont know about the photo -- I went blind from a small stroke 5 years back
and dont bother to look at images these days -- but the OP asked
could Russia have done something -- injecting chemicals into the air e.g. --
to make the winter at the Stalingrad siege worse.
It isn't at all controversial that human activity can change the weather.
One well-known mechanism involves putting aerosols -- dust or "chemicals" --
into the atm. If the stuff going into the lower atm the effect is temporary
(aka weather); if it has some push behind it and makes it to the stratosphere
then the effect is longer-landing and more widespread.
Here's a simple example of the effect of forest fires on the US lower-atm
temps 2 years later:
Year Total area burned UAH LT Linear model
(mns ha) (deg C rel 1980s)
2013 23.9333 -0.38 -0.545228
2009 25.0477 -0.99 -0.688641
2014 25.7151 -0.66 -0.77453
1997 26.4819 -0.56 -0.873211
2010 27.032 -0.61 -0.944004
1996 27.0844 -0.89 -0.950747
2008 27.5615 -2.16 -1.01215**
2006 28.4822 -1.27 -1.13063
2003 28.9458 -1.14 -1.19029
2000 29.5975 -1.47 -1.27416
2005 29.7238 -0.85 -1.29042*
1999 29.7462 -0.98 -1.2933
2001 30.1672 -0.93 -1.34748*
2012 30.2314 -1.08 -1.35574
2007 30.3677 -1.86 -1.37328*
2004 30.3935 -1.37 -1.3766
2011 30.6213 -1.17 -1.40592
1998 30.9809 -1.78 -1.45219
2002 31.45 -1.49 -1.51256
1995 32.5096 -1.8 -1.64892
MODEL:
y = -0.128691*x + 2.53478
T-test: P(beta<0) 99.8%
Rank test: reject H0:no_effect at 99% confidence
IOW we are quite quite sure for each 1 mn ha burned in the US one year
there will be generally a reduction on the avg temp of the atm above the US48
around .13C in 2y time. Of course a lot more than 1mn ha is burned in
a typical year (see table :).
I have previously looked at fires created by WW2 bombing campaings.
The temps across EUrope during the later stages of WW2 were statstically
linked with the tonnage of bombs dropped in nearby regions. More bombs
dropped on certain targets (e.g. residental areas) resulted in lowe rtemps
in following months; bombing of oil and ammo dumps resulted in higher temps
in following months.
The above are all very large scale operations. But we have additionally
looked at just the incidents of the WW2 seige of Stalingrad and Napoleons
capturew of Moscow where it seemed large but local fires created a
cold winter in the 1-2 y after the operation.
So it seems ever since soldiers were issued flints and tinder --
the ice man Utzi carried a fire-starting kit so this goes back 5-6000 years --
armies have had the capabilty to modify local and regional weather whether
they knew it or not.
In military terms if an entity has a capability then they essentially
have agency.
So Stalin was capable of creating a cold winter to harry the German 6th Army.
Whether he knew to do that is a totally other matter. :)
There are no crazy questions.