Is Everything Made of Mini Black Holes?
Double-A
"In 1971 physicist Stephen Hawking suggested that there might be
“mini” black holes all around us that were created by the Big Bang.
The violence of the rapid expansion following the beginning of the
Universe could have squeezed concentrations of matter to form
miniscule black holes, so small they can’t even be seen in a regular
microscope. But what if these mini black holes were everywhere, and in
fact, what if they make up the fabric of the universe? A new paper
from two researchers in California proposes this idea."
http://www.universetoday.com/2009/05/14/is-everything-made-of-mini-black-holes/#more-30865
Early Universe Swarmed with Mini Black Holes?
http://www.universetoday.com/2005/04/15/early-universe-swarmed-with-mini-black-holes/
Double-A
BradGuth
> Is Everything Made of Mini Black Holes?
>
> "In 1971 physicist Stephen Hawking suggested that there might be
> “mini” black holes all around us that were created by the Big Bang.
> The violence of the rapid expansion following the beginning of the
> Universe could have squeezed concentrations of matter to form
> miniscule black holes, so small they can’t even be seen in a regular
> microscope. But what if these mini black holes were everywhere, and in
> fact, what if they make up the fabric of the universe? A new paper
> from two researchers in California proposes this idea."
>
>
> Early Universe Swarmed with Mini Black Holes?
>
>
> Double-A
Yes, electron packed and others as positron packed is where we and
most of everything else started. However, I have no idea as to where
those black and white/clear holes came from, other than from a God
fart.
~ BG
Mark Earnest
"Double-A" <doub...@hush.com> wrote in message
news:e51b9518-916a-431e...@g31g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
Is Everything Made of Mini Black Holes?
"In 1971 physicist Stephen Hawking suggested that there might be
�mini� black holes all around us that were created by the Big Bang.
The violence of the rapid expansion following the beginning of the
Universe could have squeezed concentrations of matter to form
miniscule black holes, so small they can�t even be seen in a regular
microscope. But what if these mini black holes were everywhere, and in
fact, what if they make up the fabric of the universe? A new paper
from two researchers in California proposes this idea."
**Hawking really tries, sometimes, but sometimes his attempts at logic
escape me.
Double-A
> "Double-A" <double...@hush.com> wrote in message
Why does your inability to follow Hawking's logic not surprise me?
Double-A
john150509
Nothing escapes the BH except Hawking radiation, you know.
Oh, except the jets and those recent huge mass ejections.
john
BradGuth
What happens when two holes suddenly merge (say at merely 0.5c)?
How about the merger of a matter BH and that of an antimatter BH = ?
~ BG
john170509
What happens when two Hydrogen atoms are fused?
What happens when a positron and an electron combine?
john
Double-A
There are no such things as matter and antimatter black holes, Brad.
Get some book learnin'!
Double-A
BradGuth
You've checked on this, and expect us to take your public funded
everything as matter of fact?
Did Einstein tell you this, as a private secret that only you know
about?
Where exactly is the cosmic antimatter hiding these days?
~ BG
BradGuth
Don't wuss out on us. I asked first.
Can we assume you've run this on a public funded supercomputer, but
just don't want to share?
~ BG
Eric Gisse
Brad Guth, you are a true polystupid. Look up the no hair theorem so
you can expertly not understand another subject.
BradGuth
So, Einstein shared his most secret undocumented thoughts with you as
well. Ge whiz, why am I not the least bit surprised.
Are you suggesting that our universe has no antimatter, or that no two
black holes can possibly merge?
How about the relatively nearby Great Attractor. Are you going to
suggest that it too doesn't exist?
~ BG
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Light coming out of the deep gravity well of a nominal “ black hole ”
might be redshifted beyond our ability to detect it
― or there might be too much noise to properly detect it ―
but that doesn't mean that the light doesn't exist !
Supernovae might be mere collisions, nothing more.
Eric Gisse
See? You are already not understanding that a black hole of antimatter
and a black hole of matter are indistinguishable!
A true polystupid. Able to become expert at not understanding _any_
topic!
Mark Earnest
**Because Hawking is such a relatively weak logician?
You fell right into that one.
BradGuth
> A true black hole is a metaPhysical notion, nothing more.
>
> Light coming out of the deep gravity well of a nominal " black hole "
> might be redshifted beyond our ability to detect it
> but that doesn't mean that the light doesn't exist !
>
> Supernovae might be mere collisions, nothing more.
Why not change the name of this topic to "Shit, Shit and more Shit by
Jeff_Relf"?
Why not change the name of this topic to "The Cosmological Penus of
Jeff_Relf"?
Why not change the name of this topic to "The Black Balls and Penus of
Jeff_Relf"?
Why is Jeff_Relf such a pathetic loser and resident topic fuckologest
at the same time?
Obviously the mainstream status quo of MI5/CIA and always those pesky
spooks and moles of our DARPA loves their warm and fuzzy Jeff_Relf, as
well as very other brown-nosed kind of pretend-Atheist pervert they
can muster on behalf of their white Zionist Nazi god. Jesus freaking
Christ on another stick, Jeff_Relf, you constantly suck and blow at
the same time.
How would you like it if each and every original topic by Jeff_Relf
was continually renamed as well as continually cross posted
differently to boot?
Perhaps you and Double-A deserve one another, just like GW Bush and
Dick Cheney get to fornicate one another.
~ BG
Uncle Al
>
> Is Everything Made of Mini Black Holes?
1) no
2) idiot
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
BradGuth
> Double-A wrote:
>
> > Is Everything Made of Mini Black Holes?
>
> [snip crap]
>
> 1) no
> 2) idiot
>
> --
> (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
Perhaps LHC will prove otherwise, as it makes hundreds and possibly
millions of little proton black holes. What could possibly go wrong?
Remember that electrons and positrons are essentially black/clear
holes as is.
~ BG
Saul Levy
You sound more and more like Mark Earnest!
Mere collisions, my ASS!
Stellar collisions occur extremely infrequently. Space is just TOO
BIG and you can't see the consequences of that FACT!
Saul Levy
On Sun, 17 May 2009 17:51:00 +0000 (UTC), _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid
wrote:
>A�true black hole is a metaPhysical notion, nothing more.
>
>Light coming out of the deep gravity well of a nominal � black hole �
>might be redshifted beyond our ability to detect it
>? or there might be too much noise to properly detect it ?
BradGuth
I'm suggesting that we can not see a clear hole of pure positrons (aka
antimatter), now can you.
~ BG
Double-A
Black holes have only three characteristics: mass, electric charge,
and angular momentum (no hair theorem). Being matter or antimatter is
not one of them.
Double-A
Mark Earnest
**Now how can a hole possibly have mass?
Or are you saying black holes are not really holes at all?
Next you'll say that they are not even black...
Michael Moroney
>On May 17, 10:51 am, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
>> A true black hole is a metaPhysical notion, nothing more.
>>
>> Light coming out of the deep gravity well of a nominal " black hole "
>> might be redshifted beyond our ability to detect it
>> -- or there might be too much noise to properly detect it --
>> but that doesn't mean that the light doesn't exist !
>>
>> Supernovae might be mere collisions, nothing more.
>Why not change the name of this topic to "Shit, Shit and more Shit by
>Jeff_Relf"?
>Why not change the name of this topic to "The Cosmological Penus of
>Jeff_Relf"?
>Why not change the name of this topic to "The Black Balls and Penus of
>Jeff_Relf"?
>Why is Jeff_Relf such a pathetic loser and resident topic fuckologest
>at the same time?
Jeff Relf is interesting in that he can apparently write a newsreader
yet he usually doesn't know what the Newsgroups: line is for. Although
in this case he seems to have managed to be at least somewhat on
topic, judging from what you quoted.
>Obviously the mainstream status quo of MI5/CIA and always those pesky
>spooks and moles of our DARPA loves their warm and fuzzy Jeff_Relf, as
>well as very other brown-nosed kind of pretend-Atheist pervert they
>can muster on behalf of their white Zionist Nazi god. Jesus freaking
>Christ on another stick, Jeff_Relf, you constantly suck and blow at
>the same time.
Too bad you can't seem to be able to make it through writing one post
without your paranoia kicking in and you kooking out.
Double-A
Learn to spell "penis".
Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier
'BLACK HOLE" Such as Earth's center sun core,and galaxy hub. its not
new,and Hawkings did not start the theory on it. If a proton is the core
of an atom it was said to have the physics of a BH. BH in micro realm
is tricky stuff,but I think the graviton is indeed a BH and so does
Schreck,and Shwartz Trebert
G=EMC^2 Glazier
tells us they have disorder(or randomness. Hmmm That makes me ask this
question How much entropy is immersed in a black hole? Can't be much.
BH is just about absolute zero. Colder than space that surrounds it.
Still Mark just think of its core pressure.(WOW) It was Jacob
Bekenstein that gave entropy to black holes. I can see it having high
entropy and than again low entropy. That needs a lot of deep thinking.
Entropy in some respects can be tricky Trebert
Double-A
Many great minds have considered that elementary particles could be
black holes, too many to dismiss the notion out of hand. However, I
think Einstein's idea of particles as standing waves has advantages.
Double-A
Mark Earnest
"G=EMC^2 Glazier" <herbert...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:25643-4A1...@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...
Entropy must be energy that is available by some stretch of the
imagination...surely black holes are not just items of destuction and
ballance.
BradGuth
wrote:
So, you think government is always honest, and religion never play any
part?
~ BG
Saul Levy
Makes more sense to me!
Saul Levy
On Sun, 17 May 2009 13:28:18 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
<brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Why not change the name of this topic to "Shit, Shit and more Shit by
>Jeff_Relf"?
>
>Why not change the name of this topic to "The Cosmological Penus of
>Jeff_Relf"?
>
>Why not change the name of this topic to "The Black Balls and Penus of
>Jeff_Relf"?
>
>Why is Jeff_Relf such a pathetic loser and resident topic fuckologest
>at the same time?
>
> ~ BG
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
“ usually doesn't know what the Newsgroups: line is for. ”.
You should paraphrase, cut newsGroups and and minimally quote.
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Re: A true black hole is a metaPhysical notion, nothing more.
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Michael Moroney
>On May 17, 7:20 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
>wrote:
>> >Obviously the mainstream status quo of MI5/CIA and always those pesky
>> >spooks and moles of our DARPA loves their warm and fuzzy Jeff_Relf, as
>> >well as very other brown-nosed kind of pretend-Atheist pervert they
>> >can muster on behalf of their white Zionist Nazi god. Jesus freaking
>> >Christ on another stick, Jeff_Relf, you constantly suck and blow at
>> >the same time.
>>
>> Too bad you can't seem to be able to make it through writing one post
>> without your paranoia kicking in and you kooking out.
>So, you think government is always honest, and religion never play any
>part?
I wasn't talking about religion or governmental honesty, I was talking
about your apparent paranoia putting you into kookposting mode.
BradGuth
wrote:
The usual lack of your kind allowing the whole truth and nothing but
the truth, as so often the case within this Usenet/newsgroup cesspool
of liars, obfuscation, debauchery and otherwise pretend Atheists, is
what brings out my battery of lose cannons, Sorry about that.
~ BG
G=EMC^2 Glazier
with 39 zeros after it that begs this question Is that not enough to
make it a black hole. Best to keep in mind we have to probe the micro
world using photons,and you know what a BH can do to them. No bouncing
back. Electron microscope no help. Quantum realm is in the dark if black
hole particles are the rule. I have all energy and forces coming out of
gravitational energy as my equation implies. over the years of study it
has more acceptants TreBert
oldco...@gmail.com
> On May 17, 7:39 pm, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
> > If a proton is the core
> > of an atom it was said to have the physics of a BH. BH in micro realm
> > Trebert
>
> Many great minds have considered that elementary particles could be
> black holes, too many to dismiss the notion out of hand.
>
The proton as a microscale BH analog is a basic tenet of the CBB
model. http://paine_ellsworth.home.att.net/ocindexpage3.html (last
sentence).
> However, I
> think Einstein's idea of particles as standing waves has advantages.
>
Sure. Just as the vortex going down a bathtub drain forms a circular
standing wave and `appears` as a discrete, stationary entity.
G=EMC^2 Glazier
stuff of a system that still leaves its overall appearance in tact
We can however measure the disorder Trebet
BradGuth
> On May 17, 8:16 pm, Double-A <double...@hush.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 17, 7:39 pm, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
> > > If a proton is the core
> > > of an atom it was said to have the physics of a BH. BH in micro realm
> > > Trebert
>
> > Many great minds have considered that elementary particles could be
> > black holes, too many to dismiss the notion out of hand.
>
> The proton as a microscale BH analog is a basic tenet of the CBB
> model. http://paine_ellsworth.home.att.net/ocindexpage3.html (last
> sentence).
As well as more so, the greater density of the electron or positron
are very much subatomic black holes.
However, say we put 1e31 electrons or positrons within a given cm3, it
should remain as a clear/transparent hole of 9.109 kg/cm3.
~ BG
BradGuth
>
> > On May 17, 7:39 pm, herbertglaz...@webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
> > > If a proton is the core
> > > of an atom it was said to have the physics of a BH. BH in micro realm
> > > Trebert
>
> > Many great minds have considered that elementary particles could be
> > black holes, too many to dismiss the notion out of hand.
>
> The proton as a microscale BH analog is a basic tenet of the CBB
> model. http://paine_ellsworth.home.att.net/ocindexpage3.html (last
> sentence).
As well as more so would have to be the greater volumetric density
worth of the electron or positron are each very much subatomic black
holes.
However, say we put 1e31 electrons or positrons within a given cm3,
whereas it should remain as a clear/transparent hole of 9.109 kg/cm3.
That’s only 1651 times more volumetric massive than Eden/Earth, and
otherwise 2722 times more massive than our Selene/moon, in either case
would likely restrict photons from so easily escaping that kind of a
clear/transparent gravity well.
I’m not at all certain if we could even get a radar fix on such a moon
made entirely of electrons or positrons, as representing that average
density of 9.109 kg/cm3, because it should be clear/transparent (as is
dark energy).
So, what’s the average ISM and/or IGM population or saturation of
electrons/m3 or positrons/m3?
~ BG
Double-A
> Double A If a graviton in the micro can have the weight in tons as 1
> with 39 zeros after it that begs this question Is that not enough to
> make it a black hole.
I beleive that those who theorize about graviitons say they have no
mass. Don't ask me why.
> Best to keep in mind we have to probe the micro
> world using photons,and you know what a BH can do to them. No bouncing
> back. Electron microscope no help. Quantum realm is in the dark if black
> hole particles are the rule. I have all energy and forces coming out of
> gravitational energy as my equation implies. over the years of study it
> has more acceptants TreBert
Think so?
Double-A
Double-A
If a particle is essentually a wave, it explains why it cannot go
faster than the set speed for waves in the (gasp) medium!
Double-A
BradGuth
> Is Everything Made of Mini Black Holes?
>
> "In 1971 physicist Stephen Hawking suggested that there might be
> “mini” black holes all around us that were created by the Big Bang.
> The violence of the rapid expansion following the beginning of the
> Universe could have squeezed concentrations of matter to form
> miniscule black holes, so small they can’t even be seen in a regular
> microscope. But what if these mini black holes were everywhere, and in
> fact, what if they make up the fabric of the universe? A new paper
> from two researchers in California proposes this idea."
>
>
> Early Universe Swarmed with Mini Black Holes?
>
> http://www.universetoday.com/2005/04/15/early-universe-swarmed-with-m...
>
> Double-A
On May 19, 6:20 am, oldcoot7...@gmail.com wrote:
: The proton as a microscale BH analog is a basic tenet of the CBB
: model. http://paine_ellsworth.home.att.net/ocindexpage3.html (last
: sentence).
As well as more so would have to be the greater volumetric density
worth of the electron or positron are each very much subatomic black
holes.
However, say we put 1e31 electrons or positrons within a given cm3,
whereas it should remain as a clear/transparent hole of 9.109 kg/cm3.
That’s only 1651 times more volumetric massive than Eden/Earth, and
otherwise 2722 times more massive than our Selene/moon, in either case
would likely restrict photons from so easily escaping that kind of a
clear/transparent gravity well.
I’m not at all certain if we could even get a radar fix on such a moon
made entirely of electrons or positrons, as representing that average
density of 9.109 kg/cm3, because it should be clear/transparent (as is
dark energy).
So, what is the average ISM and/or IGM population or saturation of
electrons/m3 or positrons/m3?
btw, such clear/transparent volumes of electrons or positrons should
be very compressible.
~ BG
oldco...@gmail.com
no medium*. Therefore particles must be free to fly at unlimited, even
infinite speeds, depending on kinetic energy imparted to them. Duh.
Zagan
since I have one, being male and all that stuff. Or does someone not know
how to spell?
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:46397f07-5a91-4b31...@x1g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On May 17, 10:51 am, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
>> A true black hole is a metaPhysical notion, nothing more.
>>
>> Light coming out of the deep gravity well of a nominal " black hole "
>> might be redshifted beyond our ability to detect it
>> -- or there might be too much noise to properly detect it --
>> but that doesn't mean that the light doesn't exist !
>>
>> Supernovae might be mere collisions, nothing more.
>
> Why not change the name of this topic to "Shit, Shit and more Shit by
> Jeff_Relf"?
>
> Why not change the name of this topic to "The Cosmological Penus of
> Jeff_Relf"?
>
> Why not change the name of this topic to "The Black Balls and Penus of
> Jeff_Relf"?
>
> Why is Jeff_Relf such a pathetic loser and resident topic fuckologest
> at the same time?
>
> Obviously the mainstream status quo of MI5/CIA and always those pesky
> spooks and moles of our DARPA loves their warm and fuzzy Jeff_Relf, as
> well as very other brown-nosed kind of pretend-Atheist pervert they
> can muster on behalf of their white Zionist Nazi god. Jesus freaking
> Christ on another stick, Jeff_Relf, you constantly suck and blow at
> the same time.
>
sunnia
Concept of God in islam
Sorry for not sending anything related to this group but it might be
something new to you.
Concept of God in islam
It is a known fact that every language has one or more terms that are
used in reference to God and sometimes to lesser deities. This is not
the case with Allah. Allah is the personal name of the One true God.
Nothing else can be called Allah. The term has no plural or gender.
This shows its uniqueness when compared with the word god which can be
made plural, gods, or feminine, goddess. It is interesting to notice
that Allah is the personal name of God in Aramaic, the language of
Jesus and a sister language of Arabic. The One true God is a
reflection of the unique concept that Islam associates with God. To a
Muslim, Allah is the Almighty, Creator and Sustainer of the universe,
Who is similar to nothing and nothing is comparable to Him. The
Prophet Muhammad was asked by his contemporaries about Allah; the
answer came directly from God Himself in the form of a short chapter
of the Quran, which is considered the essence of the unity or the
motto of monotheism. This is chapter 112 which reads:
"In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate. Say (O Muhammad)
He is God the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten,
nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone."
Some non Muslims allege that God in Islam is a stern and cruel God who
demands to be obeyed fully. He is not loving and kind. Nothing can be
farther from truth than this allegation. It is enough to know that,
with the exception of one, each of the 114 chapters of the Quran
begins with the verse: "In the name of God, the Merciful, the
Compassionate." In one of the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) we
are told that "God is more loving and kinder than a mother to her dear
child." But God is also Just. Hence evildoers and sinners must have
their share of punishment and the virtuous, His bounties and favors.
Actually God’s attribute of Mercy has full manifestation in His
attribute of Justice. People suffering throughout their lives for His
sake and people oppressing and exploiting other people all their lives
should not receive similar treatment from their Lord. Expecting
similar treatment for them will amount to negating the very belief in
the accountability of man in the Hereafter and thereby negating all
the incentives for a moral and virtuous life in this world. The
following Quranic verses are very clear and straightforward in this
respect:
"Verily, for the Righteous are gardens of Delight, in the Presence of
their Lord. Shall We then treat the people of Faith like the people of
Sin? What is the matter with you? How judge you?" (68:34-36)
Islam rejects characterizing God in any human form or depicting Him as
favoring certain individuals or nations on the basis of wealth, power
or race. He created the human beings as equals. They may distinguish
themselves and get His favor through virtue and piety only. The
concept that God rested in the seventh day of creation, that God
wrestled with one of His soldiers, that God is an envious plotter
against mankind, or that God is incarnate in any human being are
considered blasphemy from the Islamic point of view. The unique usage
of Allah as a personal name of God is a reflection of Islam’s emphasis
on the purity of the belief in God which is the essence of the message
of all God’s messengers. Because of this, Islam considers associating
any deity or personality with God as a deadly sin which God will never
forgive, despite the fact He may forgive all other sins.
The Creator must be of a different nature from the things created
because if he is of the same nature as they are, he will be temporal
and will therefore need a maker. It follows that nothing is like Him.
If the maker is not temporal, then he must be eternal. But if he is
eternal, he cannot be caused, and if nothing outside him causes him to
continue to exist, which means that he must be Self-Sufficient. And if
He does not depend on anything for the continuance of His own
existence, then this existence can have no end. The Creator is
therefore eternal and everlasting: ‘He is the First and the Last.’ He
is Self-Sufficient or Self-Subsistent or, to use a Quranic term, Al-
Qayyum. The Creator does not create only in the sense of bringing
things into being, He also preserves them and takes them out of
existence and is the ultimate cause of whatever happens to them.
"God is the Creator of everything. He is the guardian over everything.
Unto Him belong the keys of the heavens and the earth." (39:62, 63)
"No creature is there crawling on the earth, but its provision rests
on God. He knows its lodging place and its repository." (11:6)
God’s Attributes
If the Creator is Eternal and Everlasting, then His attributes must
also be eternal and everlasting. He should not lose any of His
attributes nor acquire new ones. If this is so, then His attributes
are absolute. Can there be more than one Creator with such absolute
attributes? Can there be for example, two absolutely powerful
Creators? A moment’s thought shows that this is not feasible. The
Quran summarizes this argument in the following verses:
"God has not taken to Himself any son, nor is there any god with Him:
For then each god would have taken of that which he created and some
of them would have risen up over others." (23:91)
And Why, were there gods in earth and heaven other than God, they
(heaven and earth) would surely go to ruin." (21:22)
The Oneness of God
The Quran reminds us of the falsity of all alleged gods. To the
worshippers of man-made objects, it asks:
"Do you worship what you have carved yourself?" (37:95) "Or have you
taken unto you others beside Him to be your protectors, even such as
have no power either for good or for harm to themselves?" (13:16)
To the worshippers of heavenly bodies it cites the story of Abraham:
"When night outspread over him he say a star and said, ‘This is my
Lord.’ But when it set he said, ‘I love not the setters.’ When he saw
the moon rising, he said, ‘This is my Lord.’ But when it set he said,
‘If my Lord does not guide me I shall surely be of the people gone
astray.’ When he say the sun rising, he said, ‘This is my Lord; this
is greater.’ But when it set he said, ‘O my people, surely I quit that
which you associate, I have turned my face to Him Who originated the
heavens and the earth; a man of pure faith, I am not of the
idolaters.’" (6:76-79)
The Believer’s Attitude
In order to be a Muslim, i.e., to surrender oneself to God, it is
necessary to believe in the oneness of God, in the sense of His being
the only Creator, Preserver, Nourisher, etc. But this belief - later
on called "Tawhid Ar-Rububiyyah is not enough." Many of the idolaters
knew and believed that only the Supreme God could do all this. but
that was not enough to make them Muslims. To tawhid ar-rububiyyah one
must add tawhid al’uluhiyyah, i.e., one acknowledges the fact that is
God alone Who deserves to be worshipped, and thus abstains from
worshipping any other thing or being. Having achieved this knowledge
of the one true God, man should constantly have faith in Him, and
should allow nothing to induce him to deny truth. When faith enters a
person’s heart, it causes certain mental states which result in
certain actions. Taken together these mental states and actions are
the proof for the true faith. The Prophet said,
"Faith is that which resides firmly in the heart and which is proved
by deeds."
Foremost among those mental states is the feeling of gratitude towards
God, which could be said to be the essence of ‘ibada’ (worship). The
feeling of gratitude is so important that a non-believer is called
‘kafir,’ which means ‘one who denies a truth’ and also ‘one who is
ungrateful.’ A believer loves, and is grateful to God for the bounties
He bestowed upon him, but being aware of the fact that his good deeds,
whether mental or physical, are far from being commensurate with
Divine favors, he is always anxious lest God should punish him, here
or in the Hereafter. He, therefore, fears Him, surrenders himself to
Him and serves Him with great humility. One cannot be in such a mental
state without being almost all the time mindful of God. Remembering
God is thus the life force of faith, without which it fades and
withers away. The Quran tries to promote this feeling of gratitude by
repeating the attributes of God very frequently. We find most of these
attributes mentioned together in the following verses of the Quran:
"He is God; there is no god but He, He is the Knower of the unseen and
the visible; He is the All-Merciful, the All-Compassionate. He is God,
there is no God but He. He is the King, the All-Holy, the All-Peace,
the Guardian of Faith, the All-Preserver, the All-Mighty, the All-
Compeller, the All-Sublime. Glory be to God, above that they
associate! He is God the Creator, the Maker, the Shaper. To Him belong
the Names Most Beautiful. All that is in the heavens and the earth
magnifies Him; He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise." (59:22-24)
"There is no god but He, the Living, the Everlasting. Slumber seizes
Him not, neither sleep; to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and
the earth. Who is there that shall intercede with Him save by His
leave? He knows what lies before them and what is after them, and they
comprehend not anything of His knowledge save such as He wills. His
throne comprises the heavens and earth; the preserving of them
oppresses Him not; He is the All-High, the All-Glorious." (2:255)
"People of the Book, go not beyond the bounds in your religion, and
say not as to God but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was
only the Messenger of God, and His Word that He committed to Mary, and
a Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers, and say not,
‘Three.’ Refrain; better is it for you. God is only one God. Glory be
to Him - (He is) above having a son." (4:171)
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Concept of God in islam
Lenny_Nero
> Concept of God in islam
>
> Sorry for not sending anything related to this group but it might be
> something new to you.
Sorry to inform you, but god, be it called by any name is the way humans
mesure their inner pain, and the ones in charge keep people in line.
Nothing more.
--
Imagine if there were no hypothetical situations...
BradGuth
Except everything is in orbit around something, including photons.
~ BG
BradGuth
> Would someone please tell me what a "Penus" is. I know what a "penis" is
> since I have one, being male and all that stuff. Or does someone not know
> how to spell?
>
You want to play word games?
You want folks to needlessly die while you play those word games?
Hitler, Stalin, GW Bush and Dick Cheney certainly liked to play word
games, though countless faith-based leaders were really good at word
games while millions were being left to suffer and starve to death, or
simply being systematically exterminated under each of their "penis"
command.
Can we assume you fully support Jeff_Relf and others of his/her kind?
~ BG
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On 18 ????, 11:48, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
> Michael Moroney claims Jeff Relf ( me ):
> " usually doesn't know what the Newsgroups: line is for. ".
>
> You should paraphrase, cut newsGroups and and minimally quote.
>
> For those just now tuning in, the heritage of this post is:
>
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> BradGuth *2
> Eric.Gisse *3
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God's Attributes
The Oneness of God
The Believer's Attitude
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Darwin123
> On May 17, 8:13 am, john150509 <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
>But what if these mini black holes were everywhere, and in
> > > > fact, what if they make up the fabric of the universe? A new paper
> > > > from two researchers in California proposes this idea."
I do.
>
> > > > **Hawking really tries, sometimes, but sometimes his attempts at logic
> > > > escape me.
Did you ever try reading his articles?
>
> > > Why does your inability to follow Hawking's logic not surprise me?
>
> > > Double-A
>
> > Nothing escapes the BH except Hawking radiation, you know.
Technically, the radiation isn't escaping the black hole. It is
forming anew. The material leaving the Hawking hole has nothing to do
with the material that went in.
The matter that comes out of a Hawking hole is always 50% matter
and 50% antimatter, regardless of what originally went into the hole.
So, if you come near a Hawking hole you may be hit by 50 electrons, 50
antielectrons, 1 proton and 1 antiproton, and 100 photons (which have
no matter or antimatter property). The Hawking hole may have come from
the swallowing of one trillion electrons, or even one trillion
protons. The radiation has lost all the properties that made the
original material unique. Essentially, the radiation was formed at the
surface of the black hole.
The original material may be having a high old time on the other
side, inside the BH.
>
> > Oh, except the jets and those recent huge mass ejections.
>
> > john
That is material from outside the black hole.
>
> What happens when two holes suddenly merge (say at merely 0.5c)?
They merge. Relativistic addition of velocities. In their own
reference frames, they approach each other at 0.8 c. This is less than
the speed of light. The matter can escape. So, they merge.
When massive objects accelerate (or decelerate), gravity waves
are generated. When the two black hles merge, the matter will be
rapidly decelerated. Energy will be given off in the form of
gravitational waves. The graviational waves will interact nonlinearly.
So some of the energy will turn into light and other goodies. This
process occurs outside the black holes. So the energy will escape and
be seen.
>
> How about the merger of a matter BH and that of an antimatter BH = ?
>
> ~ BG
According to GR, a black hole can not have the properties of being
matter or antimatter. To the outside observer, the parity of a
particle is lost when it enters the black hole. To the outside
observer, the black hole can have spin, electric charge, and mass.
What goes on inside the BH is unkown in GR. Maybe it makes a
difference to whatever is in the black hole. However, the outside
observer can not tell the difference between a black hole originally
formed from matter and a black hole originally formed from antimatter.
The history of the BH is lost to the outsider.
Put it this way. In our universe, matter and antimatter annihilate
to form gamma rays. However, gamma rays can not escape a black hole.
In our universe, two matter objects that hit together very fast heat
up generate infrared rays. However, infrared rays can not escape a
black hole. In our universe, two animatter objects that hit together
very fast also heat up and generate infrared rays. However, infrared
rays can not escape a black hole.
So two black holes collide. Nothing comes out. What exactly were
they made of?
BradGuth
According to GR, lots of things don't add up unless you stop thinking.
GR is a good theory, but least of all objective because test results
have not be objectively conclusive.
Mass creates photons and gravitons. Perhaps gravitons and photons can
thereby recreate matter by way of concentrating electrons and
positrons in order to make everything else happen.
As far as we know, electrons and positrons are subatomic black holes.
~ BG
john240509
Black holes don't have anything in them.
The reason you find them surrounded by arms of
stars is the same reason you find a pile of dirt beside
a hole.
This is the same reason you find a freaked-out electron
wildly circling a proton.
The vortex, which is energy confined in a standing wave,
and which is what is at the galactic center and atomic center,
causes virtual pairs to be separated into two jets, which are
ejected into the space surrounding the vortex. The galactic
wind mixes and recombines these HEPs and they
condense into matter. They form stars. The stars arrange themselves
in the familiar disc shape because of the magnetism. As the stars
burn out they are eventually drawn back into the BH and are shot back
out the jets.
The energy comes from the vortex, which is continuously
spinning the pairs up and repelling them away from the center.
The vortex gets its energy from harmonizing somehow
with a universal frequency.
john
galaxy model for the atom
BradGuth
That's as good as any interpretation. However, if BHs don't have
anything within, then gravity isn't their thing.
Each and every atom represents it's own gravity with fast moving
barycenters.
~ BG
BURT
>
> - Show quoted text -
particles are point energy. Mass is infinitely dense energy
Mitch Raemsch
Saul Levy
I've got one thing for you: FUCK ALLAH!
Don't bother telling me Allah will STRIKE ME WITH LIGHTNING!
PIGSHIT'S already done that and, ta-da:
NOTHING'S HAPPENED!
I know it NEVER WILL EITHER!
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Saul Levy
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:33:28 -0700 (PDT), sunnia <ligh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Concept of God in islam
>
>Sorry for not sending anything related to this group but it might be
>something new to you.
>
>Concept of God in islam
>
>It is a known fact that every language has one or more terms that are
>used in reference to God and sometimes to lesser deities. This is not
>the case with Allah. Allah is the personal name of the One true God.
>Nothing else can be called Allah. The term has no plural or gender.
>This shows its uniqueness when compared with the word god which can be
>made plural, gods, or feminine, goddess. It is interesting to notice
>that Allah is the personal name of God in Aramaic, the language of
>Jesus and a sister language of Arabic. The One true God is a
>reflection of the unique concept that Islam associates with God. To a
>Muslim, Allah is the Almighty, Creator and Sustainer of the universe,
>Who is similar to nothing and nothing is comparable to Him. The
>Prophet Muhammad was asked by his contemporaries about Allah; the
>answer came directly from God Himself in the form of a short chapter
>of the Quran, which is considered the essence of the unity or the
>motto of monotheism. This is chapter 112 which reads:
[rest of worthless rant deleted, unread as usual]
Saul Levy
Makes you a MOON of VENUS!
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Saul Levy
Saul Levy
Read this newsgroup again!
Saul Levy
Double-A
Why not just rapidly vibrating standing waves or solitons, with enough
internal energy in their vibrations to give the mass we perceive in
them?
Double-A
john240509
exacta-mundo
BradGuth
Exactly, why not.
Spinning waves of energy (including photons) is the same thing as
little black holes zooming around protons and neutrons.
~ BG
BradGuth
Correct: MEEM
mass = energy and energy = mass
~ BG
American
I'm being extra-careful how mass should be perceived.
Most of those who wish to remain independent of the
social maddness of MASS should really consider
the following:
Practical application of the "incomplete part" of Goedel's
Incompleteness Theorem consists of the mass[1] part that
must similarly pass through shared consciousnesses. It is
the void that remains to be filled by its effect on the blood
of believers, by the consuming of the smallest unit of con-
sciousness - the blood cell - through a pain wave, or
semiotic sing that must permanently stress or destroy
this single celled unit of consciousness for the sake of
survival of all the others - whether or not they belong to
the same or different biological entity makes no
difference - all consciousnesses that can and must be
ABSORBED WILL BE ABSORBED.
One way for unstressing or healing the blood cell is by either
instantly replacing it with a new one, or delivering the blood/
plasma interface of the singly contaminated cell by
destroying it.
The other way is to over-identify (ideologue) the blood cell as
contaminated and replace the entire Borganism with another
Borg initiate. This process identifies the full retreat into
Borganism Syndrome.
The history of conscious memory of most or all stressed cell
phenomenon are more related to how a newer consciousness
of spacetime translates through the voiding of a measure of
BORG-adjusted (universal) biological behavioral
consciousness, using a PILOT wave, or the "type 1
biophysical-semeiotic sings" that are BORG-STATE
(non-independent) extractions, in order to flatten spacetime,
linking past, present, and future into a single
ABSORBED Borgline.
Stored conscious memory is a preprogrammed and pro-
gressively tree-like dependency on observed, re-observed,
imagined or re-imagined phenomenon in the Borg State.
These phenomenon represent 4 x 3 x 2 = 24 TOTAL com-
binations of stored consciousness, but 12 of these are
simply reverse orders of the other 12, therefore only 12
are selected from both batches that are used unidirectionally
at a time.
This unidirectionality promotes the flexibility for mutilevel
tasking between BORG-STATES, and strengthens the
nature of the prime directive to more completely assimilate
potential "subversive" spiritual and entrepreneural activity
through complete suppression and/or conscious erasure
of independent thought.
American
[1]
"Mass" as it is referred to here is more of a "mass psyche"
of media event nature, than an independent substitute, that
orders the smallest unit of consciousness[2] to be replaced
with another BORG unit, rather than with a single human blood
cell at e-neutrino wavelength, which must act as a substitute
for the smallest BORG interchange for living, breathing, and
moving in concert for the entire BORG COLLECTIVE,
regardless of national, racial or ethnic origin, as an example
to the rest of the yet-to-be-initiated, consciously
marginalized and ABSORBED POTENTIAL.
[2a]
The single human blood cell represents ~22 metabolic
pathways, each involving ~500 metabolic reactions that
convert proteins into energy for use in cellular metabolism.
This is the lifeforce required for the BORG unit to function
at maximum capacity. It also happens to be the lifeforce
for a human to function at maximum capacity. However,
ALL BORG synchronize with the same filter used for
screening the mass-to-cell-energy conversions that
support the PRIME DIRECTIVE for ABSORBING
NEW INITIATES.
john240509
Right! Each atom is in fact that.
And Space is displaced from the center of
that energy in the form of....................
..............wait for it.............................
solitons of the next order down which make up
the electron; the arms of stars around the galactic
center, etc.
So it's ALL solitons.
Fishbowls full of tiny fishbowls full
of tinier fishbowls........
Darwin123
The physical property that you are seem to be referring to is
called scale invariance. That is the symmetry where the system looks
approximately the same no matter what magnification the observer is
using. Scale invariance is also called fractal geometry.
The universe does not satisfy this condition exactly so far as
is known. All the physical systems currently known have scales at
whjch the invariance breaks down. Of course, the laws of physics are
not yet known. It is conceivably possible that the when the "theory of
everything" is finally found, the mathematical expressions will have
scale invariance.
Some of the theories of cosmic inflation contain the assumption
that the entire universe that has a scale invariance. Actually, the
cosmos is considered a multiverse with pocket universes inside it. If
all the pocket universes are considered, the multiverse has a scale
invariance.
In our pocket universe, there are physical systems that are
approximately in that condition. Turbulent fluids obey scale
invariance on all length scales between these two length scales: the
molecular length scale and the integral length scale. The scale
invariance in turbulence probably explains the formation of galaxies
and other fractal objects. Many biological systems have an approximate
scale invariance that is sometimes called fractal geometry.
The idea of solitons inside solitons does not automatically throw
me. Scale invariance is one of the useful themes in many physical
theories.My problem is that the person who suggested it does not know
what a soliton os or even what a vibration is.
BradGuth
?
BradGuth
How many free/rogue electrons and positrons coexist within a given
average cubic meter of the IGM?
~ BG
Zagan
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Double-A
No, atoms don't look like galaxies.
Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier
strength of gravity in the Planck micro realm. In tons it is 1 with 39
zeros after it in a Planck size area. That shows to me how gravity is a
black hole in this micro world. out of this thinking came my thinking
that gravity creates matter,energy curving of space and time. The other
3 forces are the other faces of gravity. It is gravity all the way down
G=EMC^2 TreBert
Double-A
I am reading a book about Space and Time by Penrose and five other
scientists. It pointed out that there would have been a time in the
Big Bang when each photon would have had enough energy to form a black
hole. They called this the quantum gravity era. Currently science
has no way of explaining what went on at that stage. They as yet have
no quantum theory of gravity.
Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier
source of gravity in the macro. It has to come out of the QM realm.
Gravity might not even have to move(no speed) It could be intrinsic to
space energy and all is immersed in its push force.(compression)
Just finished a post in sci physics to luigi on all this TreBert
BradGuth
> You can assume what you want. Makes no difference to me.
Obviously "john dough", anything that might benefit humanity is off
your table.
Isn't that also why you have multiple/different Usenet account names?
~ BG
namekuseijin
> "Double-A" <double...@hush.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e05995bd-e1fc-4cd6...@w31g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On May 17, 9:27 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 17, 8:59 am, Double-A <double...@hush.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 17, 8:20 am, BradGuth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 17, 8:13 am, john150509 <vega...@accesscomm.ca> wrote:
>
>
> > > > > > On May 16, 9:01 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > "Double-A" <double...@hush.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > > >news:e51b9518-916a-431e...@g31g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > > Is Everything Made of Mini Black Holes?
>
> > > > > > > "In 1971 physicist Stephen Hawking suggested that there might be
> > > > > > > “mini” black holes all around us that were created by the Big
> > > > > > > Bang.
> > > > > > > The violence of the rapid expansion following the beginning of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Universe could have squeezed concentrations of matter to form
> > > > > > > miniscule black holes, so small they can’t even be seen in a
> > > > > > > regular
> > > > > > > microscope. But what if these mini black holes were everywhere,
> > > > > > > and in
> > > > > > > fact, what if they make up the fabric of the universe? A new
> > > > > > > paper
> > > > > > > from two researchers in California proposes this idea."
>
> > > > > > > logic
> > > > > > > escape me.
>
>
> > > > > > Double-A
>
> > > > > Nothing escapes the BH except Hawking radiation, you know.
>
>
> > > > > john
>
>
>
> > > > ~ BG
>
> > > Get some book learnin'!
>
> > > Double-A
>
> > You've checked on this, and expect us to take your public funded
> > everything as matter of fact?
>
> > Did Einstein tell you this, as a private secret that only you know
> > about?
>
> > Where exactly is the cosmic antimatter hiding these days?
>
> > ~ BG
>
> Black holes have only three characteristics: mass, electric charge,
> and angular momentum (no hair theorem). Being matter or antimatter is
> not one of them.
>
> **Now how can a hole possibly have mass?
> Or are you saying black holes are not really holes at all?
> Next you'll say that they are not even black...
That's right, Mark. When you can't understand why there's no such a
thing as straight lines in this universe, understanding why they chose
a simple conceptual name for a dead overweight star is certainly
difficult.
hanson
Hitler, Stalin, GW Bush and Dick Cheney certainly liked to play word
games, though countless faith-based leaders were really good at word
games while millions were being left to suffer and starve to death, or
simply being systematically exterminated under each of their "penis"
command.
>
.... ahahahaha... Never mind their penile games & commands.
What you have selected here is the carnal & ponderable form
of the Fatha, Son & the Holey Ghost with Satan by their side..
So "Who is Who" in this noble quadruplet, Brad?.... ahahaha...
ahahaha... ahahahanson
>
BTW, Brad, good new-news from the Holey Land, the current
temporary home of your beloved bosom buddies, the Zios.
The Zionists are building now 73'300 new settlements on lands
stolen land from the ass-venting Palis. The Zio-chief Netanyahu
no longer says that God gave them the land but he now says that:
::::::: Settlements represent the natural Growth of Israel ::::::::
>
Did you miss someone in your selection of Penilers above?
Doesn't Netanyahu deserve to be in their club? Or which one
should he replace: Hitler, Stalin, GW Bush or Dick Cheney?
ahahaha...
sunnia
> Michael Moroney claims Jeff Relf ( me ):
> “ usually doesn't know what the Newsgroups: line is for. ”.
>
> You should paraphrase, cut newsGroups and and minimally quote.
>
> For those just now tuning in, the heritage of this post is:
>
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> BradGuth *2
> Eric•Gisse *3
> Jeff•Relf news:_@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.2009_May17.10.50am.Wj
> BradGuth *4
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> , Alt.Sci.Physics.New-Theories, Alt.Sci.Physics
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> Re: A true black hole is a metaPhysical notion, nothing more.
>
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The Prophet and Children
Please forgive us for any disturbance, but we have an important
subject to address to you regarding FAITH, and we Don’t intend to
overload your email with unnecessary messages…
Prophet Muhammad, may God send His praises upon him, was an
extraordinary husband, a perfect father,
and a unique grandfather. He was unique in every way. He treated his
children and grandchildren with great compassion and never neglected
to direct them to the straight path and to good deeds. He loved them
and treated them tenderly, but did not allow them to neglect matters
related to the afterlife. He showed them how to lead a humane life and
never allowed them to neglect their religious duties or to become
spoiled.
His ultimate goal was to prepare them for the Hereafter. His perfect
balance in such matters is another dimension of his divinely-inspired
intellect. Anas Ibn Malik, the Messenger’s helper for 10 years, says:
“I have never seen a man who was more compassionate to his family
members than Muhammad.”[1]
Muhammad was a human like us, but God inspired in him such an intimate
affection for every living thing that he could establish a connection
with all of them. As a result, he was full of extraordinary affection
toward his family members and others.
All of the Prophet’s sons died. Ibrahim, his last son, died in
infancy. The Prophet often visited his son before the latter’s death,
although he was very busy. Ibrahim was looked after by a nurse. The
Prophet would kiss and play with him before returning home.[2]
When Ibrahim took his last breaths, the eyes of the Prophet started
shedding tears. Abdur-Rahman Ibn Awf said:
“O God’s Messenger, even you (weep)!” The Prophet said, “O Ibn Auf,
this is mercy.”
Then he wept more and said:
“The eyes shed tears and the heart grieves, and we will not say except
what pleases our Lord, O Ibrahim! Indeed we are grieved by your
separation.”
The Messenger was completely balanced in the way he brought up his
children. He loved his children and grandchildren very much, and
instilled love in them. However, he never let his love for them be
abused. None of them deliberately dared to do anything wrong. If they
made an unintentional mistake, the Messenger’s protection prevented
them from going even slightly astray. He did this by wrapping them in
love and an aura of dignity. For example, once Hasan or Hussain wanted
to eat a date meant for distribution among the poor as alms. The
Messenger immediately took it from his hand, and said:
“Anything given as alms is forbidden to us.”[3]
In teaching them while they were young to be sensitive to forbidden
acts, the Prophet, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him,
established an important principle of education.
Whenever he returned to Medina, he would carry children on his mount.
On such occasions, the Messenger embraced not only his grandchildren
but also those in his house and those nearby. He conquered their
hearts through his compassion. He loved all children.
He loved his granddaughter Umamah. He often went out with her on his
shoulders, and even placed her on his shoulders while praying. When he
prostrated, he put her down; when he had finished praying, he placed
her on his back again.[4]
The Prophet showed this degree of love to Umamah to teach his male
followers how to treat girls. This was a vital necessity; only a
decade earlier, it had been the social norm to bury infant or young
girls alive. Such public paternal affection for a granddaughter had
never been seen before in Arabia.
The Messenger proclaimed that Islam allows no discrimination between
son and daughter. How could there be? One is Muhammad, the other is
Khadijah; one is Adam, the other is Eve; one is Ali, the other is
Fatima. For every great man there is a great woman.
As soon as Fatimah, the daughter of the Messenger, entered the room
where the Messenger was, he would stand, take her hands, and make her
sit where he was sitting. He would ask about her health and family,
show his paternal love for her and compliment her.
Fatimah, knowing how fond he was of her, loved him more than her own
self. She always watched her father and how he called people to Islam.
She wept profusely when the Messenger told her that he would die soon,
but her tears of sorrow turned to tears of joy when he informed her
that she would be the first of his family to follow him.[5]
This is the Prophet and his relation to children, A man respected by
leaders, cherished and loved by children.
Footnotes:
[1] Saheeh Muslim
[2] Saheeh Muslim
[3] Saheeh Muslim
[4] Saheeh Muslim
[5] Saheeh Al-Bukhari, Saheeh Muslim
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This just goes to show you HOW MANY LIES RAGHEADS HAVE MADE UP FOR
THEIR FUCKED UP BELIEFS!
Sorry, but we aren't BUYING ANY!
You can try peddling it to a CAMEL or PIG!
Saul Levy
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wrote:
>The Prophet and Children
sunnia
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WHO IS MUHAMMAD?
I believe that my topic is useful and I would like to share my
thoughts.
THANK YOU.
WHO IS MUHAMMAD?
Muhammad was born in Makkah in the year 570, at a time when
Christianity was not yet fully established in Europe. Since his father
died before his birth, and his mother shortly afterwards, he was
raised by his uncle from the respected tribe of Quraysh. As he grew
up, he became known for his truthfulness, generosity and sincerity and
was sought after for his ability to arbitrate in disputes. The
historians describe him as calm and contemplative. Muhammad was of a
deeply religious nature, and had long detested the decadence of his
society. It became his habit to contemplate from time to time in the
Cave of Hira near the summit of Jaba al-Nur, the ‘Mountain of Light’
near Makkah.
HOW DID HE BECOME A PROPHET AND A MESSENGER OF GOD?
At the age of 40, while engaged in a meditative retreat,
Muhammad,peace be upon him, received his first revelation from God
through the Angel Gabriel. This revelation, which continued for 23
years, is known as the Quran. As soon as he began to recite the words
he heard from Gabriel, and to preach the truth which God had revealed
to him, he and his small group of followers suffered bitter
persecution which grew so fierce that in the year 622 God gave them
the command to emigrate. This event, the Hijra, ‘migration’, in which
they left Makkah for the city of Madinah some 260 miles to the north,
marks the beginning of the Muslim calendar.
After several years, the Prophet and his followers were able to return
to Makkah, where they forgave their enemies and established Islam
definitively. Before the Prophet died at the age of 63, the greater
part of Arabia was Muslim, and within a century of his death Islam had
spread to Spain in the West and as far East as China.
—————–
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He was a PERVERT and BACKSTABBING BASTARD if ever there was one!
Those conquests were all BY THE SWORD too!
Thanks for LYING TO US about this! I'm not at all surprised!
You RAGHEADS are REALLY STUPID to believe ANY OF THIS SHIT!
Saul Levy
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 02:56:53 -0700 (PDT), sunnia <ligh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>WHO IS MUHAMMAD?
sunnia
Saul Levy
Saul Levy
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:56:24 -0700 (PDT), sunnia <ligh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On 18 ????, 11:48, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
>> Michael�Moroney claims Jeff Relf ( me ):
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>> � � � BradGuth �*4
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Zagan
ills? Please tell me how to do that.
I don't know what newsreader you are using, but when I reply to a post I
reply to all groups the poster used.
Please list the Usenet account names which you think I own. I always reply
as Zagan. I am currently using my sister's account, tho I do have another
account I keep to preserve my email address I've used since the internet
came into existance for reasons that are none of your business. I've also
had accounts owned by my various emplorers over the years, writing medical
software mostly.
I have no idea where m...@somewhere.org came from.
I get the feeling you need to jerk off. It might make you feel better...
// Zagan
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