Center of the Universe
Von Fourche
Question: Do scientists know where the center of the universe is? I
know you can say there is no center since the universe is always expanding,
but galaxies and stars and hurtling away from each other, correct? Can't
scientists just reverse the path that galaxies and stars are following to
find the center of the universe where it all started?
Kadaitcha Man
reviled:
There is no centre of the universe. The WMAP Cosmic Microwave
Background (CMB) Survey has confirmed that the CMB is uniform in all
directions therefore expansion is uniform in all directions.
According to Einstein, our local universe, which we experience in 3
dimensions, is flat and infinite in those three dimensions whilst at
the same time it is also curved in four dimensions. The centre of our
local universe does not exist in the 3 dimensions that we exist in
therefore there is no centre. It follows then that the centre of
expansion that you are looking for also does not exist.
In theory, given a rifle strong enough to make a bullet travel in a
perfectly straight line across the entire 3-dimensional universe, if you
took aim and fired the bullet forward and away from yourself (perpendicular
to your face, as a rifle is normally fired), you would actually shoot
yourself in the back of the head. Try it.
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Problem is, when we do that it all points right back towards us.
Nothing special about here, though: the same result would be obtained
by an observer anywhere in the universe. (Unless an axiom of science,
that physical laws are the same everywhere, is wrong.)
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Painius
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>
> Von Fourche <Khon...@hotmail.com>, the quick-frozen coachmaker,
> reviled:
> >
> > Question: Do scientists know where the center of the universe is?
> > I know you can say there is no center since the universe is always
> > expanding, but galaxies and stars and hurtling away from each other,
> > correct? Can't scientists just reverse the path that galaxies and
> > stars are following to find the center of the universe where it all
> > started?
>
> There is no centre of the universe. The WMAP Cosmic Microwave
> Background (CMB) Survey has confirmed that the CMB is uniform in all
> directions therefore expansion is uniform in all directions.
>
> According to Einstein, our local universe, which we experience in 3
> dimensions, is flat and infinite in those three dimensions whilst at
> the same time it is also curved in four dimensions. The centre of our
> local universe does not exist in the 3 dimensions that we exist in
> therefore there is no centre. It follows then that the centre of
> expansion that you are looking for also does not exist.
>
> In theory, given a rifle strong enough to make a bullet travel in a
> perfectly straight line across the entire 3-dimensional universe, if you
> took aim and fired the bullet forward and away from yourself
(perpendicular
> to your face, as a rifle is normally fired), you would actually shoot
> yourself in the back of the head. Try it.
Quite loving of you to tone down your always-interesting
"so-and-so wrote" comments, Kadeetch!
You will hopefully be nonplussed to know that i consider
it rather childlike to believe that the bullet would come
back around in a perfect circle and hit the shootist in the
back of the head. More than likely the bullet will miss the
shooter by several units. And this because the bullet will
travel in a spiral path.
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partner is a loose-love-lady with a shorn lotus flower, wrote in
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> You will hopefully be nonplussed to know that i consider
> it rather childlike to believe that the bullet would come
> back around in a perfect circle and hit the shootist in the
> back of the head. More than likely the bullet will miss the
> shooter by several units. And this because the bullet will
> travel in a spiral path.
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G=EMC^2 Glazier
universe" All light measurements indicate we are at its center because
the measurements of the universe's size is the same in every direction.
The moment the big bang went off the universe had a center. and it is
still expanding away from this center. Best to keep in mind the
universe can be finite(most likely),but unbounded I have the universe
as 22 billion light years across,and imperial thinking is its 15
billionLY My universe is bigger,and bigger is better thinking.
TreBert
Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
> Painius I relate "how high is up" to "where is the center of our
> universe" All light measurements indicate we are at its center because
> the measurements of the universe's size is the same in every direction.
Confirming what the Church has always maintained: that we are the
center of the universe!
> The moment the big bang went off the universe had a center. and it is
> still expanding away from this center.
Obviously!
> Best to keep in mind the
> universe can be finite(most likely),but unbounded I have the universe
> as 22 billion light years across,and imperial thinking is its 15
> billionLY My universe is bigger,and bigger is better thinking.
> TreBert
Yes, size matters!
Double-A
Double-A
Of course when you shoot the bullet, it will be spinning clockwise, but
when it hits your in the back of the head, it will be spinning
counterclockwise!
Paine, why do you keep posting to alt.usenet.kooks? It not only gets
you more kook awards, but also draws more off topic responses into
alt.astronomy. At times it seems that two-thirds of the posters here
are kookologists! Sneck that baby!
Double-A
Starlord
shows many galaxies that are merging together. just as in another few
million years our own Miklyway and the Galaxy M31 will be merging as right
now they are on a headon course. Add to that the local galaxy group is in
orbit around an unkniown center of gravite and other groups have their own
orbits, it makes it impossiable to plot where they have come from. Plus
there are galaxys that are so dim that we can just barly see them and
there's ones who are so old that we're just now reciving their light.
So it's very true that they can't find the COU as in fact there is no COU.
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Kadaitcha Man
Coward.
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From: "honestjohn" <hones...@centurytel.net>
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> the most "Evil Usenet Poster" of all time (Kadaitcha Man)
Kadaitcha Man
that produces coffee, announced:
> Not everything is moving away from each other. The Hubble Deep Space
> photo shows many galaxies that are merging together.
Gravity tends to do that, shitwit. It's relative.
> just as in
> another few million years our own Miklyway and the Galaxy M31 will be
> merging as right now they are on a headon course. Add to that the
> local galaxy group is in orbit around an unkniown center of gravite
> and other groups have their own orbits, it makes it impossiable to
> plot where they have come from. Plus there are galaxys that are so
> dim that we can just barly see them and there's ones who are so old
> that we're just now reciving their light.
> So it's very true that they can't find the COU as in fact there is no
> COU.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! "Hard to plot where they came from... LEAP! BOUND!...
therefore there is no centre of the universe!"
Fuckwad.
> "Von Fourche" <Khon...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> Question: Do scientists know where the center of the universe
>> is? I know you can say there is no center since the universe is
>> always expanding, but galaxies and stars and hurtling away from each
>> other, correct? Can't scientists just reverse the path that
>> galaxies and stars are following to find the center of the universe
>> where it all started?
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Isn't the centre of the Universe just our brain?
A bit anthropic conception, I know...
Luigi Caselli
Art Deco
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Painius
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To AA... read (and party) on...
> Yeah! Run away! That works gud! And then cluck about the how the sky
> is falling some more!
(*ding*)
Translation:
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> HONK HONK HONK HONK!
It does little good to sneck froops, AA... looks like
these a.u.k science-lover wannabeeees have subscribed
to a.a!
Is this a gud thing??? <g>
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>
> "Von Fourche" <Khon...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
> news:C%F%f.2810$Fy2....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> > Question: Do scientists know where the center of the universe is? I
> > know you can say there is no center since the universe is always
> > expanding, but galaxies and stars and hurtling away from each other,
> > correct? Can't scientists just reverse the path that galaxies and stars
> > are following to find the center of the universe where it all started?
>
> shows many galaxies that are merging together. just as in another few
> million years our own Miklyway and the Galaxy M31 will be merging as right
> now they are on a headon course. Add to that the local galaxy group is in
> orbit around an unkniown center of gravite and other groups have their own
> orbits, it makes it impossiable to plot where they have come from. Plus
> there are galaxys that are so dim that we can just barly see them and
> there's ones who are so old that we're just now reciving their light.
>
> So it's very true that they can't find the COU as in fact there is no COU.
Starlord, while i have a great deal of respect for you as
an astronomer, and while i like reading your articles, i
cannot believe that you ascribe to the Milky Way/M31
collision theory! It's just too way out for words!
The *only* information science has at present is the
radial velocity of M31. Its blue shift could indicate that
it is anywhere from <180° left to <180° right of center
of a possible collision path. Since we cannot yet sense
what Andromeda's lateral velocity is and which direction
it's actually headed, there is no way of telling if it's on a
collision course with the Milky Way or not. And since
the possible path could be *any* direction that is more
toward us than away from us, wouldn't you say that the
chances of a collision are fairly minuscule?
For my money, since M31 is by far the largest galaxy in
our Local Group, it makes more sense to me to see this
galaxy as the *center* of the Local Group, and the blue
shift as an indicator that our Milky Way Galaxy is
"falling" toward it and in orbit around it.
Astronomers have also indicated that our Local Group
seems to be heading in the direction of the Virgo cluster.
And this says to me that our Local Group may actually
be circling the Virgo Cluster of galaxies.
The Moon "falls" toward the Earth, Earth "falls" toward
the Sun, the Sun "falls" toward the center of the Milky
Way Galaxy, the Galaxy "falls" toward the center of the
Local Group (possibly M31), and the Local Group
"falls" toward the Virgo Cluster (the center of our Virgo
Supercluster)...
Does this make sense to anybody?
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I really don't think that many of them are subscribed to a.a., Paine,
but Art crossposts so many threads over to a.u.k. that you would think
so.
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Painius
"Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote in message...
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>
> . . .
> Its blue shift could indicate that
> it is anywhere from <180° left to <180° right of center
> of a possible collision path. . . .
So sorry, Starlord and any other Gentle Reader who
may be watching, as this needs to be corrected to...
Its blue shift could indicate that
it is anywhere from <90° left to <90° right of center
of a possible collision path.
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Some cheese with your fine whine today?
BTW--it is cloudy and windy here, obviously Earth is
dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed.
Double-A
Painius wrote:
> *correction*
>
> "Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote in message...
> news:EVc0g.24254$1q4....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >
> > . . .
> > Its blue shift could indicate that
> > it is anywhere from <180° left to <180° right of center
> > of a possible collision path. . . .
>
> So sorry, Starlord and any other Gentle Reader who
> may be watching, as this needs to be corrected to...
>
> Its blue shift could indicate that
> it is anywhere from <90° left to <90° right of center
> of a possible collision path.
>
Or above or below.
Double-A
Painius
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Indeed, AA, in fact there is a nearly complete "dome"
of an infinite number of paths that M31 could presently
be on. It's extremely hard to believe that Andromeda
has absolutely no lateral component to its velocity thus
ensuring it will merge with the Milky Way. Even a
small left or right or above or below lateral component
would ensure that M31 will miss us by quite a bit more
than a country mile.
Art Deco
John Griffin
Wow! Hell of a feat! He seems to be treating the velocity is
constant, though. Damn, he could dash our hopes of seeing
galaxies collide and then find that we only have a few billion
years to wait for one. The probability that Earth would be
seriously affected isn't all that high, so it would be a fun
event. New constellations...the primitive, superstitious
nonsense of astrology would have to be updated.
Double-A
It's only simple vector analysis.
Double-A
Painius
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That's the *point*, Oblio... nobody's worked them out
because nobody has been able to determine the lateral
velocity component of M31. All we know is how fast
Andromeda is coming _in our general direction_! It's
so far away that it would take an instrument with far
more sensitivity than astronomers have at their disposal
to measure a lateral velocity component.
And yet to just assume that there is *no* lateral velocity
component and accept that a collision between M31 and
the Milky Way is a done deal, is the result of ballyhoo
to get funding. Sometimes fairytales can be quite...
compelling!
> Wow! Hell of a feat! He seems to be treating the velocity is
> constant, though. Damn, he could dash our hopes of seeing
> galaxies collide and then find that we only have a few billion
> years to wait for one. The probability that Earth would be
> seriously affected isn't all that high, so it would be a fun
> event. New constellations...the primitive, superstitious
> nonsense of astrology would have to be updated.
'Lo John --
You're kidding yourself if you think two giant spiral galaxies
like ours and Andromeda colliding wouldn't seriously affect
Earth. There are just too many possible ways such a thing
can turn out... and thinking that Earth wouldn't be seriously
affected ain't one of 'em.
It's highly unlikely that our posterity would find it to be very
much fun.
Starlord
they are heading head on at leach other. The last I read even went on to say
that "IF" we could put a probe out to the edge of the milkyway facing m31,
it would be able to detect the first (slight as it maybe at this time)
tugging of the grative fields between the two. Also if you look at the last
Hubble Deep Field photo, there are galaxys mearing with other galaies all
over the area of the photo. Heck, there's at lest two small galaies that are
mearging with the milkyway right now, plus the two galaxys we call the SMC &
LMC are being tore apart my the forces of the MWG and their stars are
infalling into the MWG.
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Double-A
I can't even find consistent estimates of when such a collision would
happen, if it will happen. I see estimates everywhere from in 500
million years to in 5 billion years. In either case the Earth may be
having bigger problems before then, as it is the that after 500 million
years from now, the Sun, if it follows the path of a main sequence
yellow star, may be heating up to the point that it will make the Earth
uninhabitable.
Double-A
John Griffin
> "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote in message...
> news:Xns97A6C43AF7E91th...@130.133.1.4...
>>
>> Art Deco <art_...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>> > Painius <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>"Double-A" <doub...@hush.ai> wrote in message
>> >>news:1145137906.4...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com..
>> >>.
>> >>
>> >>> Painius wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > *correction*
>> >>> >
>> >>> > "Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote in message...
>> >>> > news:EVc0g.24254$1q4....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att
>> >>> > .ne t...
If a star from the other galaxy approached the sun closer than
the Alpha Centauri system, an exceedingly unlikely event, or if
several stars approached "closely" by some definition, our little
star might end up on a new path after a few hundred million
years. Who cares? Anyway, it wouldn't be the first time this
galaxy and another have passed through each other.
Art Deco
Please don't upset the sensitive saucerheads by disputing their
preconceived ideas, their fragile egos can't handle the stress.
John Griffin
> John Griffin <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote:
>
>>"Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote in
>>> message...
>>> news:Xns97A6C43AF7E91th...@130.133.1.4...
>>>>
>>>> Art Deco <art_...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Painius <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>"Double-A" <doub...@hush.ai> wrote in message
>>>> >>news:1145137906.4...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
>>>> >>.. .
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Painius wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> > *correction*
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > "Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote in message...
>>>> >>> > news:EVc0g.24254$1q4....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.a
>>>> >>> > tt .ne t...
Oops...I can be so fucking insensitive sometimes...damn!
honestjohn
G=EMC^2 Glazier
move time backwards to the beginning. That is impossible, TreBert
Double-A
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
> HJ The only way we could come upon the center of the universe is to
> move time backwards to the beginning. That is impossible, TreBert
Might need Dr. Who for that!
Double-A
honestjohn
Are you a Dr. Who fan?
Double-A
When nothing else is on ...
Double-A
honestjohn
think that a test pattern is better.
HJ
Double-A
honestjohn wrote:
> "Double-A" <doub...@hush.ai> wrote in message
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> >
> > honestjohn wrote:
> > > "Double-A" <doub...@hush.ai> wrote in message
> > > news:1145287675....@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > >
> > > > G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
> > > > > HJ The only way we could come upon the center of the universe is to
> > > > > move time backwards to the beginning. That is impossible,
> TreBert
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Might need Dr. Who for that!
> > > >
> > > > Double-A
> > > >
> > >
> > > Are you a Dr. Who fan?
> >
> >
> > When nothing else is on ...
> >
> > Double-A
> >
> That's what I thought. I have to be drunk to watch that crap! Sometimes I
> think that a test pattern is better.
>
> HJ
It seemed much more fun years ago when my brain was emptier (or maybe I
was high on something).
Double-A
honestjohn
Saul Levy
Saul Levy
nightbat
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
>
> HJ The only way we could come upon the center of the universe is to
> move time backwards to the beginning. That is impossible, TreBert
nightbat
Well the Good Book reports in the end all shall be known, and
then there was the nightbat in the present. Is this the Officer Warhol
end, oh the humanity of it all, the reported end must come before the
full understanding is known, then there is the nightbat. Impossible is
for non creators for anything the mind of man can practically conjure
remains technically feasible, then there is the nightbat. The Seans
report millions of years of development and of claimed advancement but
still searching for Universal Creator, then there is the nightbat. The
coffee boys with their doubts, lits, quick comebacks, Earth Science Team
fascination, then there is the nightbat. All humans think they are the
center of the Universe, the Good Book says they are, the greatest gift
ever made, then there is the humble nightbat. The field is reciprocal
therefore theoretically every point within the disturbed Universe is
it's center attempting renormalization towards field uniform momentum,
then there is the nightbat. Friends come and go and pass each other like
ships in the night, then there is the nightbat. Millions of stars
countless galaxies, one blue pearl falling through space in wonder, the
salty Red Halo going along for the ride, then there is the nightbat.
Never limit yourself reach for the stars Trebert, please return my
profound Earth Science Team Officer Bert, and forget 666 for that's the
reported end, then there is the nightbat.
ponder on,
the nightbat
Kadaitcha Man
^^^^^^^^^^^^ The fucker is demented.
--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006
ObHint: Just because you argue with a notorious fuckwit netk0oK, it
does not necessarily follow that you are not also a fuckwit netk0oK.
G=EMC^2 Glazier
close approximation as to the location of the center of the universe.
Reality is it will measure spacetime backwards. Back to the future.
I have the center 22 billion LY from Earth. Imperial wisdom has it 15
billion LY away. My approximation is closer to reality and the
future will prove me right as always TreBert
honestjohn
"Kadaitcha Man" <fuck-you...@kiss-my-big-black-ass.com> wrote in
message news:t1xsdk$26h$n...@valueless-buds.org...
* Guess who, K-M.
Double-A
But then you are saying that the Earth has been travelling at the speed
of light away from the center of the universe for your estimated 22
billion years since the Big Bang. Can that be right?
Double-A
Saul Levy
doesn't he?
Saul Levy
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 00:39:38 -0500, nightbat <nigh...@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
Saul Levy
Saul Levy
Art Deco
And all the rest of the saucerheads bow down to him.
Kadaitcha Man
The more they bow and scrape, the more rapid their promotion.
honestjohn
"Kali" <ka...@lart.com> wrote in message
news:e24ak1$sos$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
> In article <180420062120080680%art_...@127.0.0.1>, posted Tue,
> 18 Apr 2006 21:20:08 -0600, Art Deco art_...@127.0.0.1 says...
>
> Kali
Why do you care hog jowls?
G=EMC^2 Glazier
in the universe are always traveling through spacetime at one fixed
speed,"that of light." I know that sounds a little far out since we are
use to the notion that objects travel at speeds less than light,and
reality is that's true,but Einstien was talking about an object's
combined speed through "all four dimensions". I'm using this for my 22
billion LY since the big bang took place. It fits well.
Good also to know "Something traveling at 'c' through space will have no
speed left for motion through time" Thus light (photons) do not get old.
So photons that came out of the BB are the same age now as then. There
is no passage of time at 'c' Can be kind of tricky,but I understand it
very well. Gives me lots of well directed ideas. TreBert
Art Deco
>In article <180420062120080680%art_...@127.0.0.1>, posted Tue,
>18 Apr 2006 21:20:08 -0600, Art Deco art_...@127.0.0.1 says...
>
>Except for Darla?
They're in love, at least the Sil version.
Art Deco
honestjohn
"Art Deco" <art_...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:180420062212299143%art_...@127.0.0.1...
> G=EMC^2 Glazier <herbert...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> >Double-A Best to keep in mind what Einstien told us."That all objects
> >in the universe are always traveling through spacetime at one fixed
> >speed,"that of light." I know that sounds a little far out since we are
> >use to the notion that objects travel at speeds less than light,and
> >reality is that's true,but Einstien was talking about an object's
> >combined speed through "all four dimensions". I'm using this for my 22
> >billion LY since the big bang took place. It fits well.
> >Good also to know "Something traveling at 'c' through space will have no
> >speed left for motion through time" Thus light (photons) do not get old.
> >So photons that came out of the BB are the same age now as then. There
> >is no passage of time at 'c' Can be kind of tricky,but I understand it
> >very well. Gives me lots of well directed ideas. TreBert
>
> Why, you don't understand anything.
>
Plopp, Art faints and hits the floor, filling up his Depends diaper!
Kadaitcha Man
pits to help other workers, distressed:
> Plopp
> Depends diaper!
Painius
news:Xns97A7627218838th...@130.133.1.4...
>
> Art Deco <art_...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
> > John Griffin <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote:
> >
> >>"Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote in
> >>> message...
> >>> news:Xns97A6C43AF7E91th...@130.133.1.4...
> >>>
> >>>> Art Deco <art_...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>"Double-A" <doub...@hush.ai> wrote in message
Yet another expletivistic gooseling heard from.
--
SMILE! and keep looking upina sky.
Indelibly yours,
Paine http://www.savethechildren.org/
http://www.painellsworth.net
John Griffin
> "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote in message...
> news:Xns97A7627218838th...@130.133.1.4...
>>
>> Art Deco <art_...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>> > John Griffin <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>"Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote in
>> >>> message...
>> >>> news:Xns97A6C43AF7E91th...@130.133.1.4...
>> >>>
>> >>>> Art Deco <art_...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > Painius <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >>"Double-A" <doub...@hush.ai> wrote in message
>> >>>> >>news:1145137906.4...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.
>> >>>> >>com .. .
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>> Painius wrote:
>> >>>> >>>
>> >>>> >>> > *correction*
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>>> >>> > "Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote in
>> >>>> >>> > message...
>> >>>> >>> > news:EVc0g.24254$1q4....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldne
>> >>>> >>> > t.a tt .ne t...
<snicker> That's one of the sorriest and sniveliest affectations
I've seen in weeks! I hope to have opportunities to laugh at
more of the same. "Gooseling"...<snicker> Fuckin' lame, lamer.
Painius
All evidence to the contrary, funboi! If you truly thought
it was all that lame, you would ignore me, but you can't,
can you! Go ahead, li'l waddler, you may insert your
denial anywhere...
...where the sun don't shine would be good for starters.
--
SMILE! it's so much fun goosin' gooselings!
John Griffin
> "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote
>> "Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote
>> >
>> >> Art Deco <art_...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > John Griffin <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>"Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote
>> >> >>>> Art Deco <art_...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>> >> >>>> > Painius <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >>"Double-A" <doub...@hush.ai> wrote
>> >> >>>> >>> Painius wrote:
>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>>> >>> > *correction*
>> >> >>>> >>> >
>> >> >>>> >>> > "Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote
Not so, puzzleheaded doofus, I decide for myself which lamers to ignore. I
decided not to ignore you precisely because you were the lamest of the
pussies posting at the time. Try to buy, beg, borrow or steal some of the
mental functions that didn't come in the package your retarded parents
spawned.
> but you can't,
> can you! Go ahead, li'l waddler, you may insert your
> denial anywhere...
Your girlish sniveling and idiotic attempts to reason are not my problem.
If you stop whining, i.e., disappear, I'll ignore you until you get back.
> ...where the sun don't shine would be good for starters.
Good grief. You aren't up to even usenet standards, the lowest human
standards outside The Pervert Mohammed's primitive cult of Islam. Get
some help, fool.
Painius
>
> Cretin "Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > All evidence to the contrary, funboi! If you truly thought
> > it was all that lame, you would ignore me,
>
> Not so, puzzleheaded doofus, I decide for myself which lamers to ignore. I
> decided not to ignore you precisely because you were the lamest of the
> pussies posting at the time. Try to buy, beg, borrow or steal some of the
> mental functions that didn't come in the package your retarded parents
> spawned.
>
> > but you can't,
> > can you! Go ahead, li'l waddler, you may insert your
> > denial anywhere...
>
> Your girlish sniveling and idiotic attempts to reason are not my problem.
> If you stop whining, i.e., disappear, I'll ignore you until you get back.
>
> > ...where the sun don't shine would be good for starters.
>
> Good grief. You aren't up to even usenet standards, the lowest human
> standards outside The Pervert Mohammed's primitive cult of Islam. Get
> some help, fool.
Tindergartner...
--
SMILE! and keep rubbing those spindley legs together.
Painius
in message news:UjH1g.41471$7T1....@fe07.news.easynews.com...
> X-No-Archive: YES
>
> Painius [stars...@aol.com] has entered into testimony
> 9ZG1g.24530$az4....@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
>
> > "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote in message...
> > news:Xns97AAD5B456065th...@130.133.1.4...
>
>
> >> Good grief. You aren't up to even usenet standards, the lowest
> >> human standards outside The Pervert Mohammed's primitive cult of
> >> Islam. Get some help, fool.
> >
> > Tindergartner...
>
Precambrian gooseling.
--
SMILE! like planet Selene (the Moon) in crescent phases!
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/precambrian/precambrian.html
Kadaitcha Man
> "Chadwick StoneŠ" <chad_...@127.0.0.1> wrote...
>>
>> Imbecile.
>
> Precambrian gooseling.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH! Autoflame Grade AAA+++
John Griffin
> "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote
>> Cretin "Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > All evidence to the contrary, funboi! If you truly thought
>> > it was all that lame, you would ignore me,
>>
>> Not so, puzzleheaded doofus, I decide for myself which lamers
>> to ignore. I decided not to ignore you precisely because you
>> were the lamest of the pussies posting at the time. Try to
>> buy, beg, borrow or steal some of the mental functions that
>> didn't come in the package your retarded parents spawned.
>>
>> > but you can't,
>> > can you! Go ahead, li'l waddler, you may insert your
>> > denial anywhere...
>>
>> Your girlish sniveling and idiotic attempts to reason are not
>> my problem. If you stop whining, i.e., disappear, I'll ignore
>> you until you get back.
>>
>> > ...where the sun don't shine would be good for starters.
>>
>> Good grief. You aren't up to even usenet standards, the
>> lowest human standards outside The Pervert Mohammed's
>> primitive cult of Islam. Get some help, fool.
>
> Tindergartner...
Did I underestimate your lameness, or is it growing at a rapid
rate? With that as evidence (along with your infantile and
exquisitely ironic groups headers), I'm safely betting on both.
By the way, the reason I leave your newsgroups headers intact and
invite attention to them is that I'm a nice guy and it's plain to
see that you crave humiliation.
Painius
Okay, Big Bird, is there anything on-topic you'd care to
discuss? Or are you as science-challenged as most of the
rest of Mother Goooose's gooooselings...
--
SMILE! like planet Selene (the Moon) in crescent phases!
http://webhome.idirect.com/~jerik/zoo/Aimages/grifbird.jpg
G=EMC^2 Glazier
object,not any atom No exact center to the Sun or the solar
system. We can only approximate.,and that i9s not eas. TreBert
G=EMC^2 Glazier
universe,and what it is showing us today;. With the data the COBE has
sent back it is reality to say that the universe in every area is filled
with microwave radiation. To bad our eyes can't detect micro waves for
the night sky would have a glow to it. Possibly there are animals like
frogs that can see this glow. Read that for every cubic meter of the
universe there are on average 400 million photons that now compose this
sea of radiation. Have we away of being aware of this in our living room
Yes for all we have to do is disconnect from cable go to an off station
and the "snow" you see on the screen it is radiation that came out of
the center of the universe at the time of the big bang. Here you see the
fit between theory and experiment confirms the big bang picture o9f
cosmology going back to the spacetime that photons first moved freely
through the universe,about 22 billion years ago. TreBert
Saul Levy
losing it!
I believe that the center of the Sun is known close enough! The
center of the solar system IS the Sun!
Saul Levy
Saul Levy
those either!
Saul Levy
G=EMC^2 Glazier
last sentence is "WE can only approximate,and that is not easy" Things
can have two middles. A gravitational center might be the best. We could
use the center of axis that goes through the poles. TreBert
Art Deco
>"Chadwick StoneŠ" <chad_...@127.0.0.1> wrote...
>in message news:UjH1g.41471$7T1....@fe07.news.easynews.com...
>> X-No-Archive: YES
>>
>> Painius [stars...@aol.com] has entered into testimony
>> 9ZG1g.24530$az4....@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
>>
>> > "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote in message...
>> > news:Xns97AAD5B456065th...@130.133.1.4...
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> >> Good grief. You aren't up to even usenet standards, the lowest
>> >> human standards outside The Pervert Mohammed's primitive cult of
>> >> Islam. Get some help, fool.
>> >
>> > Tindergartner...
>>
>> Imbecile.
>
>Precambrian gooseling.
How many adjectives can you stick onto the term "gooseling", PainLame?
Art Deco
>Painius <stars...@aol.com>, the flax dresser, blew off:
>
>> "Chadwick StoneŠ" <chad_...@127.0.0.1> wrote...
>>>
>>> Imbecile.
>>
>> Precambrian gooseling.
>
>BWAHAHAHAHAHAH! Autoflame Grade AAA+++
He won't understand.
Art Deco
On-topic? How about this:
Message-ID: <1145555260....@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>
Crowds of mostly Chinese have been protesting China's President Hu on
his visit to this country over his government's persecution of the
Falon Gong, a Kung Fu-like religion which along with Christianity has
been outlawed in China! They accuse the Chinese government with
attempted genocide of the Falon Gong!
Well if the Falon Gong are being killed, probably so are the persecuted
Christians in China. But the fat and complacent American Christians
don't seem to give a shit!
Double-A
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Or this:
Message-ID: <1145197709.4...@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
> Just on the news in Indianapolis hail stones have ruined thousands of
> cars.(poor State Farm)
Aren't they going to call it an act of God?
> Well if the car manufactures listened to me
> years ago cars would be made a lot better and safer for less money.
> Steel is the wrong material for the car body,and putting paint on its
> surface is also the wrong way to go. Steel dents,and paint chips.
Agreed!
> Plastic just like the cover of your detergent bottle caps,with its color
> impregnated all the way through. I sold enough vinyl siding to know its
> a lot better than painted aluminium. Plastic bumpers are used a lot in
> cars,so why not the whole car.
Yeah, cars have more plastic parts now, and you see less cars with
dings than you used to.
> Old man Henry Ford made a car out of soy
> beans many years ago. What happened ?
Big steel bought out the patent?
> The safest color is orange
> TreBert
Orange would give everybody headaches!
Plasic is much lighter and that means better gas mileage. My old car
has an aluminum engine, and that helps too.
Double-A
John Griffin
Hilarious! What is "on topic" with an illiterate fucking idiot
like you? The idea of you discussing something science-related
is definitely worth a few chuckles. <chuckle> <chuckle> <chuckle>
<chuckle> <chuckle> <chuckle> <chuckle> <chuckle> <chuckle>
"Gooseling"...an illustration of your craving for humiliation.
Saying it once was childish and ignorant. Saying it as the
centerpiece of your ongoing demonstration of your hebephrenia is
idiotic. By now, you should be asking yourself if there's already
an English language word for what you're trying to say. (Yes,
there is, and another part of its definition fits you nicely,
airhead.)
honestjohn
He's referring to your owner, Art Deco a.k.a. "Mother Goose".
Art Deco
>"John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote in message...
>news:Xns97AAD5B456065th...@130.133.1.4...
>>
>> Cretin "Painius" <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > All evidence to the contrary, funboi! If you truly thought
>> > it was all that lame, you would ignore me,
>>
>> Not so, puzzleheaded doofus, I decide for myself which lamers to ignore. I
>> decided not to ignore you precisely because you were the lamest of the
>> pussies posting at the time. Try to buy, beg, borrow or steal some of the
>> mental functions that didn't come in the package your retarded parents
>> spawned.
>>
>> > but you can't,
>> > can you! Go ahead, li'l waddler, you may insert your
>> > denial anywhere...
>>
>> Your girlish sniveling and idiotic attempts to reason are not my problem.
>> If you stop whining, i.e., disappear, I'll ignore you until you get back.
>>
>> > ...where the sun don't shine would be good for starters.
>>
>> Good grief. You aren't up to even usenet standards, the lowest human
>> standards outside The Pervert Mohammed's primitive cult of Islam. Get
>> some help, fool.
>
>Tindergartner...
Looks like you've got a woody for John Griffin now, PainLame.
honestjohn
Your Pal,
H.J.
John Griffin
"Fartman"! Fuck, how fucking clever (antiphrastically speaking)
are the mental slowpokes going to get...? hahahahahaha!
Fuckin' lamers.
>
> Your Pal,
>
> H.J.
>
>
>
John Griffin
>
> "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote
>> "Painius" The Lamiest <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "John Griffin" <thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote
>> >>
<snicker> That was dumb as hell, but it probably seemed clever
to you.
It doesn't matter what he was referring to, turkey. Did you want
to try to dispute what I said?
Art Deco
I bet you wish you had "privates" too, johnboi!
Art Deco
wrote:
What the fuck does that mean, Gwiffin? Do you live in a fucking
dictionary or something?
nightbat
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
>
> nightbat Someday a computer in the future will be able to give us a
> close approximation as to the location of the center of the universe.
> Reality is it will measure spacetime backwards. Back to the future.
> I have the center 22 billion LY from Earth. Imperial wisdom has it 15
> billion LY away. My approximation is closer to reality and the
> future will prove me right as always TreBert
nightbat
That computer is right now in your head if you only allow it to
do it's job. The center is every point within the disturbed Universe
field trying to renormalize to uniform momentum. The missing frame that
so many have searched for. Oh TreBert when will you stop playing games
and return my Officer Bert and forget that 666 nonsense? The beginning
of the disturbed field is very much time dependent not distance, for
that is relative to impulse applied. I miss my Sil so much how could the
Seans be so naughty and not contact us for so long? Where the heck are
they?
carry on,
the nightbat
nightbat
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
>
> Double-A Best to keep in mind what Einstien told us."That all objects
> in the universe are always traveling through spacetime at one fixed
> speed,"that of light." I know that sounds a little far out since we are
> use to the notion that objects travel at speeds less than light,and
> reality is that's true,but Einstien was talking about an object's
> combined speed through "all four dimensions". I'm using this for my 22
> billion LY since the big bang took place. It fits well.
> Good also to know "Something traveling at 'c' through space will have no
> speed left for motion through time" Thus light (photons) do not get old.
> So photons that came out of the BB are the same age now as then. There
> is no passage of time at 'c' Can be kind of tricky,but I understand it
> very well. Gives me lots of well directed ideas. TreBert
nightbat
The age of the field is eternal and the rate of change is
dependent on original imputed force due to the fields reciprocal nature.
ponder on,
the nightbat
Kadaitcha Man
cutting straw with blunt children's scissors, ejected:
> Kadaitcha Man <fuck-you...@kiss-my-big-black-ass.com> wrote:
>
>> Painius <stars...@aol.com>, the flax dresser, blew off:
>>
>>> "Chadwick StoneŠ" <chad_...@127.0.0.1> wrote...
>>>>
>>>> Imbecile.
>>>
>>> Precambrian gooseling.
>>
>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAH! Autoflame Grade AAA+++
>
> He won't understand.
I agree. He would not have realised that it was silly to correct Chadwick's
accusation.
Double-A
Nightbat,
We thought Sil had picked you up already.
It has been so long since we heard from you, we thought you had gone
into orbit!
Double-A
honestjohn
do you have Art Deco's permission to speak?
honestjohn
Thanks, J.G.
honestjohn
dream about me though, pecker licker!
John Griffin
Stupid illiterate little puke. It's odd that you can sense the
fact that you need to cower behind others' anonyms to avoid being
killed by your family members. Anyway, the word means exactly
what it looks like if oughta mean, and it means exactly what the
context would tell you if you had one of those modern brains that
has the ability to perceive and understand simple relationships
like that.
John Griffin
That will continue to be increasingly lame as long as you keep on
repeating it.
By the way, cretin, the answer to my question is no. You could
have saved time and embarrassment with just two letters. Never
mind the time saving suggestion if you've somehow, in spite of
your learning disabilities, become aware of the obvious fact that
wasting your time is the least insalubrious use of it.
honestjohn
I can't believe it! 68 words just to say "no". You need to take a course
in Technical Writing.
John Griffin
BWAA#@$<choke>HAHA<gasp>HAHAHA#@(*^HAHA! The fuckin' cretin
thinks usenet features technical writing...
The current cretin crop seems to be of a lower grade than
normal... oops...I mean than usual. Counting the words...holy
shit.
asleep
your addiction to the cretins
is even funnier
Art Deco
<thathi...@yahooie.com> wrote:
Verbose little cunt.
> It's odd that you can sense the
>fact that you need to cower behind others' anonyms to avoid being
>killed by your family members. Anyway, the word means exactly
>what it looks like if oughta mean, and it means exactly what the
>context would tell you if you had one of those modern brains that
>has the ability to perceive and understand simple relationships
>like that.
Why use one word where ten will suffice, faggot Gwiffin?
Now go and look up another word that hasn't been used for at least the
last twenty years.
<snigger>
honestjohn
should be seen and not heard!
Gerry
"asleep" <thelin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Us92g.9752$i41...@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Are you addicted to cross posting your shit everywhere? Please excuse the crosspost
but I don't know where this dumbass lives. Please stop crossposting your shit
into rec.gambling .lottery.
Art Deco
Set phasers to "dork"!
--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Art Deco
<nigh...@home.ffni.com> wrote:
Did you learn this from a comic^H^H^H^H^Hgraphic novel, frootbat?
>
> ponder on,
> the nightbat
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
wrote in alt.fan.art-bell in message
<Xns97AA6142DEBA1th...@130.133.1.4>:
> <snicker> That's one of the sorriest and sniveliest affectations
> I've seen in weeks! I hope to have opportunities to laugh at
> more of the same. "Gooseling"...<snicker> Fuckin' lame, lamer.
Oh, go on, admit it, you were devastated.
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V.G.
"i would blame them it they went on a holy jhiad and killed off all the infidels, would you?"
- AssLexa's "200+" alien-implanted IQ jumps the rails and crashes into a grade school, killing all inside.
Change pobox dot alaska to gci.
Sarcasm is my sword, Apathy is my shield.