Art Deco = Dr. Flonkenstein NOMINATION HL&S
Raving Loonie
... that 'sock' pre-dates Art Deco by *almost* a month.
RL
Raving Loonie
In http://tinyurl.com/7snhe F/AD writes:
> Consistency is the main concern in scientific research.
Uhmmmm. ...
... Would it be fair to call Art, consistent?
RL
Raving Loonie
SIMILARITY: Compare the signature styles ....
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in Message-ID:<adurg15tk0vd6ip6r1lh297cequd35a...@4ax.com>
Alexa "Crackpot" Cameron explains electromagnetism, and how
the sun has an 'iron core':
"The sun and the earth are 'magnets', each with an iron
based core, and both have an electrical force between them."
.. AND ...
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with a ferrite core and a planet without a solid iron core."
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-- Darla aka Dr. Why aka Dr. Yubiwan aka ...
Dan Baldwin
Wow - they both use dash dash space <CR> as a delimiter. I'm convinced.
--
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"Your ignorance makes me ill and angry."
Hail the un-alive
Raving Loonie
... or bow, wow, wow
Art Deco & Dr. Flonkenstein ARE one and the same person. That is pretty
much *irrefutable* ( ... I am "presuming". ... I haven't confirmed. I
simply KNOW. I posted the evidence, elsewhere.)
For the moment simply assume that I am correct. ... Thence compare
Deco & Flonkenstein in retrospect. Flonkenstein asserts that
'consistency' is important in science.
O.K. .. I accept that. I even went so far as to appologize, so as to
point out my acceptance of "that". ... Consistency, uniformity, flat,
linear seemed to be Flonkenstein's "song".
Ask yourself .. who is more consistent than Flonkey?
Art Deco ... is the answer that screams back at me. .. Art almost
defines the pedantic consistent effort.
The sig blocks of Deco & Flonker are consistently and specifically
different YET they are also strongly and consistently the same. Both
include similar types of elements used and maintained in a consistent,
reliable, manner ...
Imagine that?
----
So let's build upon this exploratory test ....
When I say the word 'Consistent' , who does it bring to mind?
I know! ( ... answering my own question! )
... Brucie Boi.
Now, I shall go away and see if there is a match, here, too...
( Thanks Double-A ... thanks yyyiiinnn...@yahoo.com ) ... Comments,
here?
Nice, HL&S Flonkie ... seems like youv'e been fooling a lot of AUK,
too for a long time
;-)
RL
Raving Loonie
probably NOT the same
Regardless, it would be interesting to see how Brucie's stats compare
to Art's & Flonker's ... maybe a good contra-control, test?
Real Friendly Neighborhood Vote Ranger
"Raving Loonie" <raving...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132167868.1...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
When two posters establish a trust relation and share 5-10 usenet posting
accounts, they can post like two turntables hooked up to a mixer.
Michael Baldwin Bruce
Yes, amazing coincidence, eh what?
> --
> Dan Baldwin, unethical *by design*
>
> "Your ignorance makes me ill and angry."
>
> Hail the un-alive
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RL is a retarded luddite
Dr. Flonkenstein
Even remark the white space ather the double dash!
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in Message-ID:<adurg15tk0vd6ip6r...@4ax.com>
Alexa "Crackpot" Cameron explains electromagnetism, and how
the sun has an 'iron core':
"The sun and the earth are 'magnets', each with an iron
based core, and both have an electrical force between them."
in Message-ID: <rjise19nrclufrgjg...@4ax.com>
Mark "Woody" Ferguson shows his mastery of the English language:
"With patients and practice you could be nominated next time around..."
in Message-MID: <k1kte1hu59khhkt4m...@4ax.com>
Mark "The illiterate" Ferguson astonishes everybody saying:
"Oh, for fucks sake, Gary no matter how angery he thinks he makes there
are lines I will not cross unless I believe what I say is the true, I
know more then you."
in Message-ID: <lhic01pc5svudk22n...@4ax.com>
Alexa "Tequila Titsz" Cameron explains world religions:
"The jews roots are islamic."
in Message-ID: <j1b5c1l2629tc6afu...@4ax.com>
Alexa "dumbass" Cameron shows her knowledge of history:
"WRONGO. There was NO Bible before King James had it written."
in Message-ID: <5g89d15kbjd3cd7i6...@4ax.com>
Alexa "Word Salad" Cameron shows her knowledge of science:
"Einstein never found the double superimposed doubl 'equilateral' triangle."
in Message-ID: <1rfee1d5iuhq3piii...@4ax.com>
Alexa "Kook of the year 2004" Cameron uses words she doesn't understand again:
"Why is the Pentagon killing American citizens with non-lethal technology?"
in Message-ID: <2mrge1phgk68ourdt...@4ax.com>
Alexa "Imnotalexadammit" Cameron has problems with that extra finger
on her hand:
"Why do the Jews use the Star of David as symbolic of the Pentagon, or
Pentagram?"
reminder: Message-ID: <pan.2005.09.01...@localhost.localdomain>
The quote naziwhore Don Ocean stole.
Dr. Flonkenstein
"It's all about me" - Chuck Lysaght.
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in Message-ID:<adurg15tk0vd6ip6r...@4ax.com>
Alexa "Crackpot" Cameron explains electromagnetism, and how
the sun has an 'iron core':
"The sun and the earth are 'magnets', each with an iron
based core, and both have an electrical force between them."
in Message-ID: <rjise19nrclufrgjg...@4ax.com>
Raving Loonie
Flonkenstein, whether or not you are Art Deco doesn't matter much to
me.
Rather, it is distracting for me to deal with the plausibility of such
right, now ...
Better that I drop my assertion and cease caring about it, one way or
the other.
You are Art Deco, you aren't Art Deco. ... <shrug> ... whatever it
is. There are other, more worthwhile and productive considerations
involving yourself.
To me, that is what is important.
I drop the issue of ... as to whether you and Deco are one and the
<same>.
... just a Raving Loonie
Dr. Flonkenstein
Hi, Nightbat!
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in Message-ID:<adurg15tk0vd6ip6r...@4ax.com>
Alexa "Crackpot" Cameron explains electromagnetism, and how
the sun has an 'iron core':
"The sun and the earth are 'magnets', each with an iron
based core, and both have an electrical force between them."
in Message-ID: <rjise19nrclufrgjg...@4ax.com>
Raving Loonie
I'm not 1/10 the man that night bat is.
[alt.recovery.sock-paranoia] removed.
It is "yourself", who spends endless effort on the friviolities of
kooks and kookologists.
Do they makes small minds, any more 'compact' and irrelevent than the
one which you so reckessly display?
Wank on, twit.
Dr. Flonkenstein
^^^^
Ohhhooo, your manic period seems to come to an end, and depression is
lurking around the corner.
[alt.recovery.sock-paranoia] restored
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in Message-ID:<adurg15tk0vd6ip6r...@4ax.com>
Alexa "Crackpot" Cameron explains electromagnetism, and how
the sun has an 'iron core':
"The sun and the earth are 'magnets', each with an iron
based core, and both have an electrical force between them."
in Message-ID: <rjise19nrclufrgjg...@4ax.com>
Raving Loonie
> >>
> >> Hi, Nightbat!
> >
> > I'm not 1/10 the man that night bat is.
> >
> > [alt.recovery.sock-paranoia] removed.
> >
> > It is "yourself", who spends endless effort on the friviolities of
> > kooks and kookologists.
> >
> > Do they makes small minds, any more 'compact' and irrelevent than the one
> > which you so reckessly display?
> >
> > Wank on, twit.
> ^^^^
>
> Ohhhooo, your manic period seems to come to an end, and depression is
> lurking around the corner.
>
> [alt.recovery.sock-paranoia] restored
Inconsistency is important, and effective Flonkenstein.
Linear, pea-brained "thinking" is due to settle in for one long
hiatus*.
I trust that you will be most amused. ... Enjoy.
* Courtesy of a certain, "Dr. Flonkenstein", who passes himself off as
a kookologist on Usenet.
Dr. Flonkenstein
One thenth of zero is still zero, saucerhead.
> [alt.recovery.sock-paranoia] removed.
>
> It is "yourself", who spends endless effort on the friviolities of
> kooks and kookologists.
>
> Do they makes small minds, any more 'compact' and irrelevent than the one
> which you so reckessly display?
>
> Wank on, twit.
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in Message-ID:<adurg15tk0vd6ip6r...@4ax.com>
Alexa "Crackpot" Cameron explains electromagnetism, and how
the sun has an 'iron core':
"The sun and the earth are 'magnets', each with an iron
based core, and both have an electrical force between them."
in Message-ID: <rjise19nrclufrgjg...@4ax.com>
raving...@gmail.com
> One thenth of zero is still zero, saucerhead.
Wank, wank, Dr. Flankenstein
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......... Re: How do I turn off the S.M.A.R.T. hard drive integrity
checking on my Intel Motherboard & BIOS?
Lola Stonewall Riot
they suddenly burst out in tears, saying:
> Dr. Flonkenstein wrote:
>> One thenth of zero is still zero, saucerhead.
>
> Wank, wank, Dr. Flankenstein
Does this sound better? "One-tenth of zero is still zero."
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"Bernadette, you ignorant oaf.
Bernadette, you brainless dullard.
Bernadette, you feeble-minded wag.
Bernadette, you blathering baboon.
Bernadette, you babbling boor.
Bernadette, you depraved dolt.
Bernadette, you stinking slimeball.
Bernadette, you yammering yak.
Bernadette, you lily-livered lush.
Bernadette, you hard-hearted hulk."
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"[Lurlean] would never dream of sleeping with a dog. The Bible's against
it. You don't seem to care what the Bible says, so she thought maybe you
gave that a try too -- in addition to sucking on Steve, letting him play
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"'drink that hooch,' they would say, 'and then smoke that joint. Bury your
head in that strange woman's crotch and bring her to a thunderous climax
with your tongue, then tell her no man could ever give her that much
pleasure in a thousand years. Tell her to leave her husband and become a
lesbian. Drip hot wax on that pervert's nutty buddies and then charge him
extra for the privilege.'" -- Sistah Moonshine is now working on an erotic
epic to outmatch Anne Rice.
"Roe V Wade has zero bearing on my existence other than it affects it
adversely."
-- Johnny Wentzky never had much truck with "logic".
"You are the GOD-DAMNED, IGNORANT LIAR here.
Now, that is not me taking the Lord's name in vain."
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Raving Loonie
> Eris Kallisti Discordia was laughing at the antics of raving.loonie, when
> they suddenly burst out in tears, saying:
> > Dr. Flonkenstein wrote:
> >> One thenth of zero is still zero, saucerhead.
> >
> > Wank, wank, Dr. Flankenstein
>
> Does this sound better? "One-tenth of zero is still zero."
think outside the box."
... almost }}sound{{ like a Flonken-sock.
Nawh. Too emotional.
raving...@gmail.com
Simple. It's relevent.
Matthew Fields is also very much of an 'Inside the box' thinker (+++).
... I am indirectly bringing the matter to his attention, also.
This posting, being but a small, isolated fragment in a much longer
discouse.
As for alt.usenet.kooks being included?
It's the home squatting ground of ' Lola Stonewall Riot ' , a.k.a. the
all-great-wizard PUFFBALL, "The Demon of Mockery"
O.K. ?
HTH
Sincerely,
RL
noon_...@yahoo.com
RL
To be honest with you, IMHO this ^^^ is an example of a searing
intellect whose sarcastic wit causes him feelings of guilt. No doubt
from early childhood you desplayed this talent to the disapproval of
the significant parent who then reprimanded you all the while remarking
on how smart you are. Consequently, you hold back on flaring until you
might feel justified ... and then coupled with a feeling of
satisfaction and guilt you either justify your actions or profusely
excuse, self-demean, or apologize to your victim. Your lack of comfort
with this "ability" is all too evident in your consistent presentation
of personal uncertainty. How to win and lose friends....? A good
scientist observes, forms a working hypothesis, creates a series of
valid tests and then states the factual results in unbiased terms.
HTH
Holly
~~~
"Don't truth me and I won't truth you." K. Vonnegut
> Wank on, twit.
noon_...@yahoo.com
Raving Loonie
Nevertheless, the essence of what you point out here, is appropriate;
albeit misaligned.
2 caveats:
1) My parents don't have anything to do with it ...
2) I respect you more, herein, than to be motivated by 'winning or
loosing you' as a friend.
3) I have "faith" that ypou can also appreciate "2)", otherwise I must
.... <shrug>
You wrote ...
> A good scientist observes, forms a working hypothesis, creates a series of
> valid tests and then states the factual results in unbiased terms.
... Agreed. I can provide the 'science'.
Please read and respond to http://tinyurl.com/cfczs here or there,
BEFOREHAND, however ... I hazard that you will *indeed* be ambivalent
concerning what I might post.
Nevertheless, my assumption is the reverse of what might be assumed by
default. IMO, you are the exception, concerning such things. If it were
anyone else, I wouldn't do it.
A response, ... or providing the material to you before hand would be
appreciated, here.
(Trying to *break* the gobbldy goop, I am refering to how you respond
emotionally. ... It would seem to be your weakness. OBJECTIVELY, it is
your strength. OBJECTIVELY, my concern should be groundless. In
practice ... ?????????????? )
Sincerely, RL
Holly
The ^^^ refer to your comment to Flonky ... located directly above the
^^^.
> 2 caveats:
>
> 1) My parents don't have anything to do with it ...
No point in arguing the point.
> 2) I respect you more, herein, than to be motivated by 'winning or
> loosing you' as a friend.
Oddly .. I am a bit flattered and therefore open to a sort of
friendship, despite being a bit circumspect about what you mean it.
> 3) I have "faith" that ypou can also appreciate "2)", otherwise I must
> .... <shrug>
>
> You wrote ...
> > A good scientist observes, forms a working hypothesis, creates a series of
> > valid tests and then states the factual results in unbiased terms.
>
> ... Agreed. I can provide the 'science'.
>
> Please read and respond to http://tinyurl.com/cfczs here or there,
> BEFOREHAND, however ... I hazard that you will *indeed* be ambivalent
> concerning what I might post.
>
> Nevertheless, my assumption is the reverse of what might be assumed by
> default. IMO, you are the exception, concerning such things. If it were
> anyone else, I wouldn't do it.
Okay.
> A response, ... or providing the material to you before hand would be
> appreciated, here.
Okay. You must use the Holly addy not Pale.Pink.'s <poor dear>
> (Trying to *break* the gobbldy goop, I am refering to how you respond
> emotionally. ... It would seem to be your weakness. OBJECTIVELY, it is
> your strength. OBJECTIVELY, my concern should be groundless. In
> practice ... ?????????????? )
>
> Sincerely, RL
As you have noted I am all emotion but with a good deal of reason as
well. I can determine whether something is valid or important (as do
we all) and I can then not take some things personally. I am rational
most of the time. But fun and humor are essential ... let me explain.
I was raised in a family where teasing was the way of the warrior.
Learning to dodge the prods and the zaps were my daily lessons. It did
not make me bitter or dampen my joie de vivre ... it did teach me that
teasing was a form of affection, which is not the experience of most
people. My college female friends saw it differently. They let me
know in no uncertain terms that my Bugs Bunny annoyance did not feel
like affection. There was some truth to their observation that behind
my sense of humor was some misdirected anger. Fortunately I am capable
of learning ... but alas, not completely. I can still be a bit
obnoxious at times, especially to my male friends whom I expect to be
tougher than my female friends. Anger might jet out of me one moment
and vanish just as fast in the next. I may become elated at ten A.M.
and deflated by noon. I am fluid, consistently inconsistent ... but I
do try to appear otherwise. When I was a child I recall feeling like
the emotional me was far larger than the physical me... sort of like a
pupa needing to break her shell. Ultimately I was prepared for Usenet
.. don't you think?
Raving Loonie
> like affection. ...
Shhh! Do ya' think, *maybe*, Kadaitcha Man is lurking about somewhere
... ?
He has gone into auto-idiot mode with me ...
Do I get any UVA points for a successful troll or what, eh?
> ... There was some truth to their observation that behind
> my sense of humor was some misdirected anger. Fortunately I am capable
> of learning ... but alas, not completely. I can still be a bit
> obnoxious at times, especially to my male friends whom I expect to be
> tougher than my female friends. ....
Ohoooo ....
... Be careful that you don't go posting anywhere near
[soc.men]!
> .... Anger might jet out of me one moment
> and vanish just as fast in the next. I may become elated at ten A.M.
> and deflated by noon. I am fluid, consistently inconsistent ... but I
> do try to appear otherwise. When I was a child I recall feeling like
> the emotional me was far larger than the physical me... sort of like a
> pupa needing to break her shell. Ultimately I was prepared for Usenet
> .. don't you think?
<sigh>
With *luck*, I will get around to putting it together and emailing it
to you.
I say it <this way> because it isn't easy to put words to 'perceptual
appreciations'; to realizations with strong contextual content. ... I
need to go back and rediscover those assorted threads. It never comes
out <<the same way>> twice. Much of that emotionality which I employ
is used to sheep-dog the panoramic thought into condensed coherency.
But I will try and probably *do so*. ... just expect to be a bit
patient about it, eh.
O.K. trying to neither act or re-act, in this ... keeping it in limbo.
Oops. Didn't the pope just ban that?
I guess the botton line here is those things that I want to describe
are sooo strikingly factual/objective. ... It's what makes the effort
whorthwhile.
I'll post a brief message, letting you know that I have emailed you in
this regard. ... As in "If you haven't seen that message, I haven't
sent anything. Enough about <this> here & now. Onwards to interacting
otherwise ...
My apologies for being unable to push it.
It just comes when & if it comes ...
Sincerely,
RL
Raving Loonie
> Raving Loonie wrote:
O.K. ... sent an email
RL
bru
The Battle of Omdurman
Ye Sons of Great Britain! come join with me
And King in praise of the gallant British Armie,
That behaved right manfully in the Soudan,
At the great battle of Omdurman.
'Twas in the year of 1898, and on the 2nd of September,
Which the Khalifa and his surviving followers will long remember,
Because Sir Herbert Kitchener has annihilated them outright,
By the British troops and Soudanese in the Omdurman fight.
The Sirdar and his Army left the camp in grand array,
And marched on to Omdurman without delay,
Just as the brigades had reached the crest adjoining the Nile,
And became engaged with the enemy in military style.
The Dervishes had re-formed under cover of a rocky eminence,
Which to them, no doubt, was a strong defence,
And they were massed together in battle array
Around the black standard of the Khalifa, which made a grand display.
But General Maxwell's Soudanese brigade seized the eminence in a short
time, And General Macdonald's brigade then joined the firing line;
And in ten minutes, long before the attack could be driven home,
The flower of the Khalifa's army was almost overthrown.
Still manfully the dusky warriors strove to make headway,
But the Soudanese troops and British swept them back without dismay,
And their main body were mown down by their deadly fire-
But still the heroic Dervishes refused to retire.
And defiantly they planted their standards and died by them,
To their honour be it said, just like brave men;
But at last they retired, with their hearts full of woe,
Leaving the field white with corpses, like a meadow dotted with snow.
The chief heroes in the fight were the 21st Lancers;
They made a brilliant charge on the enemy with ringing cheers,
And through the dusky warriors bodies their lances they did thrust,
Whereby many of them were made to lick the dust.
Then at a quarter past eleven the Sirdar sounded the advance,
And the remnant of the Dervishes fled, which was their only chance,
While the cavalry cut off their retreat while they ran;
Then the Sirdar, with the black standard of the Khalifa, headed for
Omdurman. And when the Khalifa saw his noble army cut down,
With rage and grief he did fret and frown;
Then he spurred his noble steed, and swiftly it ran,
While inwardly to himself he cried, "Catch me if you can!"
And Mahdism now has received a crushing blow,
For the Khalifa and his followers have met with a complete overthrow;
And General Gordon has been avenged, the good Christian,
By the defeat of the Khalifa at the battle of Omdurman.
Now since the Khalifa has been defeated and his rule at an end,
Let us thank God that fortunately did send
The brave Sir Herbert Kitchener to conquer that bad man,
The inhuman Khalifa, and his followers at the battle of Omdurman.
Success to Sir Herbert Kitchener! he is a great commander,
And as skilful in military tactics as the great Alexander,
Because he devised a very wise plan,
And by it has captured the town of Omdurman.
I wish success to the British and Soudanese Army,
May God protect them by land and by sea,
May he enable them always to conquer the foe,
And to establish what's right wherever they go.
--
Brugman Mooivinger
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bru wrote:
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hailed as the writer of the worst poetry in the English language.
A self-educated hand loom weaver from Dundee, he discovered his
discordant muse in 1877 and embarked upon a 25 year career as a working
poet, delighting and appalling audiences across Scotland and beyond.
This site provides a comprehensive guide to the life and works of
William McGonagall, including all his published poems and his
remarkable (and unintentionally hilarious) autobiography. Please click
on one of the headings below to begin your visit.
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> --
> Brugman Mooivinger
bru
>
Working already! An amazing success!
>
>
--
Brugman Mooivinger