Academic Astrological Mission Statement
Edmond H. Wollmann
Goal Overview
Part 1
In 1970 I began studying Astrology essentially as a skeptic. A traumatic
series of injuries lead me to question life deeply. This introspection
lead me to questions about existence and the nature of life in general.
The more I studied metaphysics and astrology, the more evidence I was
able to find for its validity by applying it.1 Because I had studied
animal life extensively to this point (including a mastery of the art of
falconry at age 14), it was easy for me to see that metaphysics was
simply a more expanded and inclusive version of physics. However, there
was a major drawback to these studies. Because of the "disbelief" in
these subjects such as astrology, I had to begin a program of
"unbrainwashing" myself and perspectives I had acquired from early on.
Astrology and metaphysical subjects were still framed in the linguistics
and negativism from the era from whence we stopped regarding them as
relevant. Now, it is our focus on commercialism and the
industrial/territorial perspective that has lead us away from man,
"God", and nature being one and the same. This is the result of
profoundly delusional collective ego focus. This focus was adopted with
the perspective "deus ex machina," wherein the deity or God exists
separate from nature; and is a psychological delusion of grandeur in no
uncertain terms. This psychosis of mankind is the effect of a runaway
ego based on the premise that manipulation, "accomplishment",
"achievement", domination, are the only signatures of intelligence (and
why it has taken us so long to acknowledge cetacean marine life as
"intelligent"). This is why we make sports figures "heroes." This
relates to the egocentric Greek/Roman perspective (which much of the
societal structure of the US is founded upon) that Man is the measure of
all things.
With this basic understanding in mind, it became my goal to update and
revise in as modern as possible terms, the knowledge of astrology
primarily, and of metaphysics secondarily (Tyl, 1972) that removed the
objectionable value judgments that allows some in academia to continue
to ridicule these profound and ancient subjects. It is obvious to anyone
with a thorough working knowledge of astrology that there is a strong
and possibly empirically provable connection between astronomical
mechanics and psychological affect (if the proper design can be devised
to operationalize and test it). It is through psychology that I am
pursuing an accurate working model of modern psychological theory and
astrological premise based on the tremendous work of Noel Tyl, a Harvard
graduate who's work in this area is the most impressive to date. A model
that demonstrates the truth behind the concept that we do indeed create
our own reality and that nothing is truly outside of our consciousness.
There has been one major difficulty. All of my beliefs about reality
have been, and are having to be modified. I have studied Albert
Einstein's theories of relativity to some extent and have found a great
correlation of the relativity premise to describe psychic material and
its relation to physical experiential reality. In essence, that we
create our experiential reality relative to the beliefs and definitions
we hold psychically about reality.2 There is no empirically existent
external reality per se, except for the agreed upon simultaneous
perception of shared experience that we collectively create and label
"the" reality (please see my "Nature of Reality" references, Bashar,
Darryl Anka, Seth, Jane Roberts, John Mack, Harvard Psychology, and Amit
Goswami, Physics).
Obviously these holistic recognitions lead to a questioning of the
"health" of the premise of multi-interdisciplinary subjects and
understandings long presumed separate and non-integrated. Science is a
useful tool, but when made the "deity" it destroys holistic and
holographic integrity (that the whole organizes the parts). Therefore,
to reinstate this lost cognition, I wrote an article (Saturn Opposition
Saturn, 1986) introducing the concept of how we create our reality from
early environmental schemata, and demonstrated through actual case
histories, the astrological mechanics of this truth.3 In this article I
demonstrated how the natal astronomical position of Saturn reflected
certain fears and beliefs acquired as schema, reflected in the early
environment psychologically, and delineable through the astrological
significators that define the parental structure. This schemata was then
shown to be experienced as a crisis (belief materialized) in maturity at
or around age fourteen. This (Saturnine quadrature) concept was also
introduced and discussed in Tyl's work (1972). This internalized
schemata revealed through astrological analysis, has been demonstrated
as an unconscious belief internalized and repressed early on, catalyzed
by parental interaction.
The critical aspect of this publication is that two things could be
demonstrated with a high degree of reliability; that there was indeed a
correlation between astrological significators and behavior, and that
the reality experienced at a later date was the effect of the
patternization of belief and an experiencing of the self and it's
definitions. The only confirmation of an empirically existing external
reality from my research in this area, has been that the physical
experience existed as a set of props; as a learning aid for the
individual and as the effect of definitions held. Physical reality was
demonstrated to be a mirror to allow the individual to examine the
schemata held.
Thus, one of the primary goals of my academic work is greater exposure
to, and incorporation of, a wider range of beliefs and paradigms based
on my recognition that all must fit holographically, and to blend
diversity this with astrological cognitions. Also, to incorporate and
integrate the existing educational structure's guidelines of accepted
knowledge formats, and bring them into a cogent structure of the
existing knowledge I have of other disciplines in metaphysics and the
natural world. These other disciplines in return add credence (or
clarify) and reference to things already known to myself to be true.
"The" truth is the composition of all truths (Bashar).
I will reference current accepted academic paradigms in a manuscript now
complete that is an integrated guide to self- empowerment. A guide that
will allow individuals to reference commonly accepted formats of the
educational structure while it introduces the student to astrological
principles and the psychology of reality creation. A fuller
comprehension of cross-disciplines adds more flexibility, power, and
understanding of how the whole organizes the parts.
It is my opinion that the world monetary structures are undergoing and
will continue to undergo, a tremendous destructurization (starting in
force after 2000, because our values are), wherein not only will our
basic aspects of daily life be revolutionized, but our fundamental
philosophies of the nature of existence will be questioned. My goal is
to educate and provide an outlet for the fulfillment of what will appear
to be disaster (de-structurization), but is in "reality" the best thing
that ever happened to mankind. The re-cognition that the deity is all
one thing and that no "part" can be outside of that whole. We will
transform by taking back power we have given away in this illusion we
call external reality.
Footnotes
1 This may take as long as twenty years or more.
2 Much of this agreement is unconscious.
3 Published in the August 1990 issue of Horoscope Magazine, Spring 90
issue of Aspects Magazine, The American Federation of Astrologers July
90 Bulletin and 33 degrees North Magazines entitled "Saturn Opposition
Saturn; View To Reality".
Goal Overview
Part 2
In part 1 of this goal overview, I discussed some of the primary aims of
my research and integration of academic applications. In this section we
will discuss some of the factors that make up the overall inductive
argument that has been the premise of my writings. That is that the
detriment of science is its dogmatic adherence to ignoring the
organizing power of the whole. These assertions and factors I
incorporate follow in a semi-outline form and reflect the layout of my
manuscript; "The Integrated Astrological Guide to Self- Empowerment."
1. First and foremost an accurate clarification of definitions (or
redefinition for clarity) that will be used in any discussion is a
requisite, i.e.; The word dis-ease is commonly interpreted to mean a
malfunctioning of a system of a plant or animal. However, a more
accurate definition is that the dis-ease is within the organism as a
whole as a state of being, and is what predisposes an individual to the
malfunctioning of the system. In other words, the inability of the
individual to welcome developmental tension as a precursor to identity
validation and fulfillment, creates the state of dis-ease (from old
French desaise). This state of being is the effect of living in a state
of hell (parts artificially separated from the whole). If we trace the
root for this word in old English _helan_ it becomes much easier to see
that I am not being flippant. Helan means to cover over, or to hide.
Now, from a psychological point of view, there are different levels of
psychic material i.e., the unconscious, conscious, superconscious. To
the psychologically aware, it is not a great stretch to recognize that a
consistent and prolonged hiding of unconscious trauma and/or
guilt/belief patterns could be reflected in an individual's day-to-day
conscious mind functioning, allow for application dysfunction, (sexual,
mental) create insecurity, or in an overall sense a state of dis-ease
that allows the organism to be vulnerable to physical system malfunction
and bacterial or viral invasion.
Therefore, the importance of definition clarification allows us to
proceed from clarity of understanding, and that other systems and
disciplines can be successfully integrated because of their inherent
cogency once understood clearly. There is really little difference
between varying discipline's discoveries and their cross-relevance,
which most often reflect point number 2.
Heuristics ("to find out", aiding or leading on toward discovery).
Which, through implied meaning, allows us to re-cognize (rethink) the
original intent, remove mystery, and dis-cover (anti-helan) the
integrated nature of the universe by dis-cerning (Latin to separate or
distinguish) the difference between a repressed unconscious pattern or
belief projection we may have been taught, and analytical
clear-sightedness. How can this be achieved? It can only be through the
knowledge of self. Through the awareness of the functioning of these
levels of psychic material, which are responsible for the subjective
interpretation and creation of the experience itself.
"The recognition and taking to heart of the subjective determination of
knowledge in general, and of psychological knowledge in particular, are
basic conditions for the scientific and impartial evaluation of a psyche
different from that of the observing subject. These conditions are
fulfilled only when the observer is sufficiently informed about the
nature and scope of his own personality. He can, however, be
sufficiently informed only when he has in large measure freed himself
from the levelling influence of collective opinions and thereby arrived
at a clear conception of his own individuality . . . "The collective
attitude hinders the recognition and evaluation of a psychology
different from the subject's, because the mind that is collectively
oriented is quite incapable of thinking and feeling in any other way
than by projection."Carl Jung, Psychological Types, The Type Problem in
Classical and Medieval Thought. pg 10, paragraphs 11, 12.
It is only possible to accurately interpret the universe when we
recognize our union with it. All-that-is (God) is all one thing. All
things within it can only be all of the possible ways that all-that-is
has of creating itself into being (Pantheistically). Therefore, all
patterns that are recognizable must be integratable through this logic
of derivation (to descend from a source). Which is the 3rd point.
What we do with this recognition of derivation is point number 4.
As outlined in part 1 of this overview, astrology provides a
psychological format that leads to a discernment of psychological
momentum and belief patterns that is essential to the above outlined
awareness. Once these belief momentums are recognized, what do we do
with this awareness? My suggestion is that as an extension of
all-that-is we are responsible for the creations in our reality
(conscious and unconscious) and that fate is simply unrecognized choice.
Release from hell is through conscious creative choice and awareness at
any given moment.
Many models and comparisons are used in my manuscript to illuminate to
those so willing, that an absence of evidence, is not evidence of
absence, but is basically reflective of the insecure state of man, his
unwillingness to "uncover" his psyche (from fear) and hence the
consequently difficult and arduous release from "hell."
Footnotes
1 Refer to "Goal Overview" Part 1.
2 For those ignorant of Astrological premises, study is recommended for
concise understanding.
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Accession Number
Journal Article: 68-06449.
Authors
Green, Denis G.
Institution
Aquarian Monastery of Cochise County, Psycho-Astrological Services,
Huachuca
City, AZ.
Title
Solar astrology: A clinical tool for personality assessment.
Source
American Federation of Astrologers Bulletin. Vol 41(7) 13-24, Jul
1979.
Abstract
Tested the usefulness of solar astrological concepts in social work,
with
emphasis placed on their utility in a clinical setting. It was
hypothesized
that differences exist between persons engaged in ongoing therapy and
those
not involved in counseling and their ability to recognize personality
traits
characteristic of their astrological birth sign. Ss selected from 2
population groups responded to a questionnaire and checklist designed
to
secure their birthdate and a rank ordering of 12 trait clusters for
"self-description" and "description of a significant other." Results
confirm
the hypothesis in that the "normal" population was more likely to
select
their appropriate astrological personality traits than the "special"
population. Differences in Ss' astrological level of functioning or
awareness
of their inner potentialities are discussed, whereby extraterrestrial
influences or astrological phenomena are suggested as delineators
between
healthy and unhealthy personality adjustment. (PsycINFO Database
Copyright
1982 American Psychological Assn, all rights reserved).
Journal Article: 68-01633.
Authors
Lester, David.
Institution
Richard Stockton State Coll.
Title
Astrologers and psychics as therapists.
Source
American Journal of Psychotherapy. Vol 36(1) 56-66, Jan 1982.
Abstract
Suggests that astrologers and psychics play a role similar to that
played by
psychotherapists and that they serve clients who do not wish to
characterize
themselves as having psychological problems. This is documented by the
writings of astrologers and by transcripts of visits to astrologers
and
psychics by a client. Astrology is useful because it
provides concepts and terminology that describe people's life states
and
problems. It also provides a good medium for incorporating modern
psychological therapies. Both astrologers and psychics provided
examples of
advising, increasing the client's self-esteem, preparing the client to
face
trauma, and empathic dialog. (9 ref) (PsycINFO Database Copyright 1982
American Psychological Assn, all rights reserved).
Journal Article: 67-12514.
Authors
Perinbanayagam, R S.
Institution
City U New York, Hunter Coll.
Title
Self, other, and astrology: Esoteric therapy in Sri Lanka.
Source
Psychiatry. Vol 44(1) 69-79, Feb 1981.
Abstract
H. S. Sullivan's (1953) argument that anxiety as a fundamental human
experience is alleviated by the use of various procedures that he
called
"security operations" is used in the present paper to examine the
meaning of
astrology in Sri Lanka. Astrology and the
doctrine of karma provide the relevant framework in which various
forms of
misfortune are understood and handled. An examination of cases reveals
that
astrology and the doctrine of karma enable a person of that
culture to create a number of structures that have a therapeutic
effect. (27
ref) (PsycINFO Database Copyright 1982 American Psychological Assn,
all
rights reserved).
Journal Article: 66-02542.
Authors
Tiggle, Ronald B; Fiebert, Martin S.
Title
Development of an astrological hostility scale and its correlation
with the
Buss-Durkee Inventory.
Source
Perceptual & Motor Skills. Vol 49(3) 858, Dec 1979.
Abstract
Based on claims of traditional astrology, a significant
relationship between hostility assessed by the Buss-Durkee
Hostility-Guilt
Inventory and the effects of Mars and Pluto was hypothesized. As a
control
analysis, a nonsignificant relationship between the hostility scale
and the
effects of Venus was predicted. The inventory correlated significantly
with
Mars scores and nonsignificantly with Venus and Pluto scores. (2 ref)
(PsycINFO Database Copyright 1981 American Psychological Assn, all
rights
reserved).
Journal Article: 65-12824.
Authors
Pawlik, Kurt; Buse, Lothar.
Institution
U Hamburg, Psychologisches Inst, West Germany.
Title
Self-attribution as a differential, psychological moderator variable:
Verification and clarification of Eysenck's
astrology-personality correlations. [German].
Source
Zeitschrift fur Sozialpsychologie. Vol 10(1) 54-69, 1979.
Abstract
Tested the hypothesis that the previously reported relationship
between
astrological birth sign and personality differences in extraversion
and
neuroticism can be explained in terms of self-attribution of
personality
descriptions. Responses of 799 adult Ss on a German version of the
Eysenck
Personality Inventory and a belief in and familiarity with
astrology questionnaire were analyzed in several ANOVAs,
with belief in astrology being one of the independent
variables. Results support the hypothesis. (14 ref) (PsycINFO Database
Copyright 1981 American Psychological Assn, all rights reserved).
Journal Article: 65-10507.
Authors
Sosis, Ruth H; Strickland, Bonnie R; Haley, William E.
Title
Perceived locus of control and beliefs about astrology.
Source
Journal of Social Psychology. Vol 110(1) 65-71, Feb 1980.
Abstract
45 male and 88 female college students were administered Rotter's
Internal-External Locus of Control Scale, a similar scale by H.
Levenson
(1972), the Marlowe-Crowne Social Desirability Scale, and a
questionnaire
assessing belief and knowledge about astrology. External
beliefs about chance or fate were positively related to belief and
action-taking in astrological activities, while other measures of
locus of
control including the Rotter scale and beliefs about control by
Powerful
Others, were not related to an interest in astrology.
Females were significantly more likely than males to believe in and
have
knowledge about astrology. Results suggest that externals
can be differentiated and identified by the kinds of efforts they
might make
to enhance reinforcement. (12 ref) (PsycINFO Database Copyright 1981
American
Psychological Assn, all rights reserved).
Dissertation Abstracts International: 14-52739.
Authors
Tyson, Graham A.
Institution
U Witwatersrand, Johannesburg, South Africa.
Title
The social psychology of belief in astrology.
Source
Dissertation Abstracts International. Vol 40(5-B) 2442, Nov 1979.
Journal Article: 63-05502.
Authors
Mayo, J; White, O; Eysenck, Hans J.
Institution
Mayo School of Astrology, Cumbria, England.
Title
An empirical study of the relation between astrological factors and
personality.
Source
Journal of Social Psychology. Vol 105(2) 229-236, Aug 1978.
Abstract
Tested 2 astrological predictions: (a) extraversion is related to
being born
under the odd-numbered zodiacal signs and introversion to being born
under
the even-numbered zodiacal signs, and (b) that people born under the
so-called water signs would show greater emotionality and would thus
have
higher Neuroticism scores than the other Ss. 917 male and 1,407 female
adults, mean age 35 yrs, were administered the Eysenck Personality
Inventory,
and their birthdates were ascertained. Results for males and females
separately and jointly support both hypotheses. It is concluded that
artifacts are unlikely to have produced the results. (20 ref)
(PsycINFO
Database Copyright 1980 American Psychological Assn, all rights
reserved).
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>In 1970 I began studying Astrology essentially as a skeptic. A traumatic
>series of injuries lead me to question life deeply.
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wildearth wrote:
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> Edmond H. Wollmann wrote in message <382127...@yahoo.com>...
> >http://www.astroconsulting.com/SDSU/toc.htm
> > Goal Overview
> >Part 1
> >
> >In 1970 I began studying Astrology essentially as a skeptic. A traumatic
> >series of injuries lead me to question life deeply.
>
> Would that be a traumatic series of head injuries?
>
> SNIP!
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> >
> >Your client continues to post ONLY to harass, defame, denigrate and
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No, it is because I have ETHICS and COURAGE and will do what is right
regardless of your threats.
> >IF IT Takes 10 years! Get it???
> 10 whole years? That's the longest leo rising I've ever seen!
You are psychologically ill.
> You need to cut back on your viagra dosage.
I need no viagra, trust me.
> Here, let me help you.
> SNIP!
Well, my my, more abuse. I am still wating for a discussion or argument
so that I can rip it to sheds.
Edmond Wollmann
you will never achieva anything.
52. MARS IN CANCER
You are at a disadvantage, for the aggressive en-
ergetic urges work here through the defensive sectors
of the Vitasphere, and the result can more often than
not be an undermining of the very security you think
you are working for. In its best manifestation, this
makes you a gentle and peaceful soul, content to give
yourself to the establishing of a home and the rearing
of children. But this best manifestation is rare. You
will in any case think this is what you would want out
of life if-alas!-so many things did not demand at-
tention first! Women with this position have a curious
way of ruling the roost, at the same time that they
think they want a strong brave man to shield them
from the world. Men with this position frequently are
ruled by their women or by the psychological biases
rooted in the mother inheritance. You must constantly
strive to direct your energies; your passions, your intu-
itions, and prevent them from directing you. You tend
to try too hard, and, thus to lose the benefits of the free
flow of instinct. And through trying too hard, or de-
manding too much, you run the risk of endangering
the very security without which you never will express
your best self. Your fears are all too likely to get the
upper hand and to cause you to exaggerate little trou-
bles. You make mountains out of molehills, and the
mountains bring forth an avalanche on your head.
You take yourself and your private life too seriously;
and must beware of destructively directing into them
the energies that should be flowing out to the world
of business or society.
"Astrology For The Millions" Grant Lewi, Doubleday, Doran & Co.
1940 to 1980 Bantam and Llewellyn publishing houses of a tremendously
insightful astrologer.
roachie
wildearth wrote:
> > You need to cut back on your viagra dosage.
Viagara doesn't work on dickless people, honey.
> I need no viagra, trust me.
See! Told ya!.
> Well, my my, more abuse. I am still wating for a discussion or argument
> so that I can rip it to sheds.
Fuck you, wollmann. Jagoff piece of shit you are.
roachie-
Vice President Of the Charter WildEarth Fan Club, Ink.
el...@no.spam
Edmond H. Wollmann <arctu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In 1970 I began studying Astrology essentially as a skeptic.
I don't believe you.
>A traumatic series of injuries lead me to question life deeply.
Poor baby.
>This introspection
>lead me to questions about existence and the nature of life in general.
Too bad you "found" the wrong answers.
[snip!]
You have nothing special, Edie. Why are you unable to see that?
Edmond Wollmann
the Multiverse because of infinite dimensions as well) is the expression
of ideas. All things within the Multiverse are made of light-living
light. This light expresses itself in vibrational frequencies. All
expression therefore is like infinite radio stations, the one you have
your dial set to is the one you "receive". There is no one truth, and no
one station. Whatever you believe, reflects your vibrational frequency,
hence your radio station. The horoscope is a mirror of vibrational
frequency. It does not cause anything, it reflects the radio station
that your dial is tuned to because its your station! There are no
"shoulds" that make up the "proper" station.
There are only three absolutes within this Multiverse;
1) that you exist along with "All That Is"
2) the all is one and the one is all (holographic)
3) what you create or put out is what you get back
The horoscope is likened to a mirror. It provides you an accurate
reflection so that if you don't prefer the way your hair looks for
example you can see this and change it (your vibrational frequency).
BUT THE MIRROR CAUSES NOTHING.
What we see is the reflection of ourselves through the mirror of mind
matter. It is not a case of mind over matter, because mind and matter
are the same thing manifesting in different ways. You create your
reality 100% even when you use 90% of that creativity to create the
illusion that you only have the other 10%. Remember however, that we
have unconscious beliefs as well, and the majority of our reality
creation comes through unconscious creation. Physical reality is an
agreed upon "reality" created by the collective.
The horoscope is a reflection of this unconscious and our individual
place within it.
So whether you are aware of it or not you do create your reality 100%,
and when you believe it you will see it, because it is believing is
seeing not the other way around. The horoscope provides a very fine
mirror of these beliefs-conscious and unconscious-to allow them to
become conscious, redefined, and recreated. YOU are still the point of
power through which this creation comes at any moment.
DOUBT IS A 100% TRUST IN A REALITY THAT YOU DON'T PREFER!
Edmond Wollmann
SNIP!
Off topic.
wildearth
>Edmond Wollmann <Edmond_...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>wildearth wrote:
>
>> > You need to cut back on your viagra dosage.
>
>Viagara doesn't work on dickless people, honey.
>> I need no viagra, trust me.
>
>See! Told ya!.
ROFLMFAO
wildearth
>You all keep abusing and you evoke these posts , knock yourselves out,
>you will never achieva anything.
>
Youa saya thata wea willa nevera achieva anythinga?
el...@no.spam
Edmond Wollmann <Edmond_...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> If you perceive abuse and stay, it must be because you like it, eh?
>No, it is because I have ETHICS
Yeah? Is that why you haven't paid Susan the money you owe her?
>and COURAGE
Yeah, right. You're a coward and have demonstrated it repeatedly.
>and will do what is right regardless of your threats.
She made no threat, you stupid paranoid kook.
>> 10 whole years? That's the longest leo rising I've ever seen!
>You are psychologically ill.
That's slander, Edie.
>I need no viagra, trust me.
No woman?
>Well, my my, more abuse.
Only by your bankrupt definition, kook.
>I am still wating for a discussion or argument so that I can rip it to sheds.
You aren't capable of participating in a discussion. In fact you don't
work or play well with others.
Nobody needs a high school drop out telling them what they can post.
roachie
> You all keep abusing and you evoke these posts , knock yourselves out,
> you will never achieva anything.
>
> 52. MARS IN CANCER
Wrong.
I have Mars in Taurus, fucknuts.
roachie-
Spamster
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> NANAU replaces metapsych.
>
> Your client continues to post ONLY to harass, defame, denigrate and
> demean me and my companies--AND I WILL STAY HERE UNTIL YOU TAKE
> RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ABUSE, IF IT Takes 10 years! Get it???
>
Get a grip, get a killfile and get lost.
el...@no.spam
Edmond Wollmann <Edmond_...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>You all keep abusing
Abusing what, Edie?
>and you evoke these posts ,
We evoke nothing. You are the one choising to spew.
>knock yourselves out,
>you will never achieva anything.
We achieve much including the manipulation of you. Too bad you
are too stupid to see it.
--
"Why must I endure this on usenet while anyone else cries in a second
for not nearly the abuse I get?"
-Edmond Wollmann, a$trologer, liar, spammer, hypocrite, censor, Jan. '98 KoTM,
convicted criminal, asshole, bully, Kook of the Year 1998
el...@no.spam
Edie, you've been told many times that posting nothing but a whine
about topics is off topic. Your hypocrisy is showing again.
How does it serve you to be unable to control your rage?
el...@no.spam
wildearth <wild...@acm.org> wrote:
>>You all keep abusing and you evoke these posts , knock yourselves out,
>>you will never achieva anything.
>Youa saya thata wea willa nevera achieva anythinga?
Doesn't his typing get amusing when he's angry?
el...@no.spam
Edmond Wollmann <Edmond_...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>For those so inclined and interested.
That's the empty set.
Jim Phillips
> NANAU replaces metapsych.
Actually, it's quite the opposite...
Lame alt.dev.null follow-up foiled again...
> Your client continues to post ONLY to harass, defame, denigrate and
> demean me and my companies--AND I WILL STAY HERE UNTIL YOU TAKE
> RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ABUSE, IF IT Takes 10 years! Get it???
Shouldn't that be "eternity" instead of "10 years"?
"Companies"?
snip of inaccurate charter info
--
Jim Phillips, jphi...@bcpl.net
"J. K. Rowlings (creator of Harry Potter) has come under attack from
various religious groups for encouraging the dark arts of literacy and
creativity. God-fearing parents across the country have expressed alarm
that Henry's flirtations with death and disaster might be troubling to
children already bewildered by the fact that they'll burn in hell if they
ever touch their genitals." -- The Daily Show, 11/1/99
Jim Phillips
Metapsych back--hi, Eddie!
Lame-ass alt.dev.null crap foiled again.
> wildearth wrote:
> >
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote in message <3821CD...@bigfoot.com>...
> > >NANAU replaces metapsych.
> > >
> > >Your client continues to post ONLY to harass, defame, denigrate and
> > >demean me and my companies--
> >
> > <yawn>
> >
> > >AND I WILL STAY HERE UNTIL YOU TAKE
> > >RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ABUSE,
> >
> > If you perceive abuse and stay, it must be because you like it, eh?
>
> No, it is because I have ETHICS and COURAGE and will do what is right
> regardless of your threats.
You have so much courage that you set follow-ups to alt.dev.null.
There's a brave little boy...
> > >IF IT Takes 10 years! Get it???
>
> > 10 whole years? That's the longest leo rising I've ever seen!
>
> You are psychologically ill.
At least it's more realistic than "eternity", eh, Ed?
>
> > You need to cut back on your viagra dosage.
>
> I need no viagra, trust me.
Perhaps some tranquilizers?
> > Here, let me help you.
>
> > SNIP!
>
> Well, my my, more abuse. I am still wating for a discussion or argument
> so that I can rip it to sheds.
Oh, *that's* what you're going to wait for until the end of time:
an argument that you could manage to rip to shreds.
Jim Phillips
Lame-ass follow-ups to alt.dev.null foiled, metapsych restored.
On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> el...@no.spam wrote:
> SNIP!
> Off topic.
Isn't this *also* off-topic?
To get back into astrology: what part of Ed's chart indicates
pathetic failure? A skeptic eagerly awaits education!
jfred
> In article <3821DE...@bigfoot.com>,
> Edmond Wollmann <Edmond_...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> >el...@no.spam wrote:
> >SNIP!
> >Off topic.
>
> Edie, you've been told many times that posting nothing but a whine
> about topics is off topic. Your hypocrisy is showing again.
>
> How does it serve you to be unable to control your rage?
Perhaps he enjoys having to replace his capslock key on a regular basis.
And having to scrape the spittle off his monitor.
--
jfred http://www.smbtech.com/ed/ "Why am I an asshole?" -Edmo
[Edmo] is the first person ever to use "integrity" to mean "delusional
person without a work ethic." -A.P. "... I have unequivocally stated
that I find [Benjamin Franklin] to be painfully stupid." -PZ Myers
Beep
<Edmond_...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>You all keep abusing and you evoke these posts , knock yourselves out,
>you will never achieva anything.
>
>52. MARS IN CANCER
snipped for space
The words below are quoted from Liz Greene's "Astrology for Lovers",
section "Leo: the shadow".
Disclaimer: this is taken from a description of Leo sun/moon/or rising
used negatively. Leo placements, as well as *any* other sign
placements, can always be used positively if/when the individual so
chooses. This was written specifically for the "shadow" or negative
use of sign placements in this book. It is good to be aware of the
shadow side of your sign placements...to provide a map of what not to
do with them :)
Ed Wollmann has Leo rising, for any who do not know.
"A third adjunct of this shadow is the 'I know everything' syndrome.
This is the Leo who cannot bear to admit that he can't do something,
or doesn't know something. It's got a slight resemblance to the Virgo
shadow, another know-it-all. But the motivation is different. Virgo
has to know it all because he's terrified of anything unknown. Leo
needs to know it all because he's got to be king. Even when his
contribution is patently absurd and glowing with florid ignorance, he
won't back down. I once knew a Leo like this. He would profess
knowledge of all sorts of things, because he needed to have an image
of being highly learned. If you questioned him, he would begin to
argue. Of course he was always right. How dare you challenge it?
What? Not know the answer? Not him. He knew everything. He would
even get indignant and angry if you questioned him, to cover up his
own inadequacy. I, the King."
Pam
Scorpio rising
--
email address:
beep at west dot net
Rheumatic Disease info:
http://www.silcom.com/~sblc
Russ Price
On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 11:28:04 -0800, Edmond Wollmann
<Edmond_...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>el...@no.spam wrote:
>SNIP!
>Off topic.
Learn to quote, Eddie. el...@no.spam did not post that, YOU did.
And you're off-topic. Turn yourself in now. But take
the panties off of your head first.
Fuckhead.
"I might add that "my dick is as small as a tick"" - Edmond Wollmann
http://www.smbtech.com/ed/
wildearth
>On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:50:05 -0500, in alt.astrology "wildearth"
><wild...@acm.org> wrote:
>
>>Edmond H. Wollmann wrote in message <382127...@yahoo.com>...
>>> Goal Overview
>>>Part 1
>>>
>>>In 1970 I began studying Astrology essentially as a skeptic. A traumatic
>>>series of injuries lead me to question life deeply.
>>
>>
>>SNIP!
>
Do you hear that, Jim?? Ed, with a *fire sign ascendant*, SET HIMSELF ON
*FIRE*.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
WHAT FURTHER PROOF OF ASTROLOGY DO YOU NEED????
ROFLMFAO
>and soon after he was let out of the hospital
>and then drove his motor scooter into a stopped car.
>
I guess his ego was driving.
>
>
>
>--
>Bob Officer
>"I do do laundry. I have to because there will be no females in this house
> for the next 20 years." Edmond Wollmann, the lonely ranger
Widdershins
On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 10:59:06 -0800, Edmond Wollmann
<Edmond_...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>wildearth wrote:
>>
>> Edmond Wollmann wrote in message <3821CD...@bigfoot.com>...
>> >NANAU replaces metapsych.
>> >
>> >Your client continues to post ONLY to harass, defame, denigrate and
>> >demean me and my companies--
>>
>> <yawn>
>>
>> >AND I WILL STAY HERE UNTIL YOU TAKE
>> >RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ABUSE,
>>
>> If you perceive abuse and stay, it must be because you like it, eh?
>
>No, it is because I have ETHICS and COURAGE and will do what is right
>regardless of your threats.
Threats? Would you specify which threats you were talking about?
How about, "Toast!"
>
>> >IF IT Takes 10 years! Get it???
>
>> 10 whole years? That's the longest leo rising I've ever seen!
>
>You are psychologically ill.
You aren't qualified or authorized to call anybody psychologically
ill.
>
>> You need to cut back on your viagra dosage.
>
>I need no viagra, trust me.
>
>> Here, let me help you.
>
>> SNIP!
>
>Well, my my, more abuse. I am still wating for a discussion or argument
>so that I can rip it to sheds.
Gonna tear her a new one, Eddieeeeeee?
"Now whos the fucking bully asshole?" Edmond
Wollmann P.M.A.F.A
The Evil Widdershins PMAFA
SAN 299-5603
(Call after 6 PM)
Tom Kerr
In article <3821DE...@bigfoot.com>, Edmond_...@bigfoot.com wrote:
>el...@no.spam wrote:
>SNIP!
>Off topic.
"I am not opposed to off topic issues, this is natural and occurs often,
so I cannot chastise anyone for that" - Ed Wollmann
jfred
oops. He did a hell of a lot of chastising yesterday.
Perhaps he's not opposed to off topic issues ONLY IN THEORY.
Maybe he really is the idiot we all think he is.
anonym™
Edmond Heinz Wollmann, convicted in San Diego on 6/28/98 of a
misdemeanor (PC 555- Unlawful Entry), fined, and placed on probation, wrote:
SNIP!
Off topic.
How do you like *that*, Ed?
--
http://www.smbtech.com/ed/
http://lart.com/ed/
I know where evil dwells:
Edmond H. Wollmann 4158 Decoro St. # 51 San Diego, CA 92122 (619) 453-2342
el...@no.spam
Tom Kerr <t...@prodigy.net> wrote:
><auk added for the amusement value>
>
>In article <3821DE...@bigfoot.com>, Edmond_...@bigfoot.com wrote:
>>el...@no.spam wrote:
>>SNIP!
>>Off topic.
>
>"I am not opposed to off topic issues, this is natural and occurs often,
>so I cannot chastise anyone for that" - Ed Wollmann
All kooks are equal but some are more equal than others?
anonym™
Edmond "limpdick" Wollmann wrote:
>
> You all keep abusing and you evoke these posts ...
So you're blaming your obnoxious spew on someone else?
How does it serve you to tell of you that you are a rotten, jive-ass,
balding scumbag with no ethics?
Where's the Octagon, you fucking pussy?
anonym™
Edmond Wollmann, convicted in San Diego on 6/28/98 of a misdemeanor
(California Penal Code 555- Unlawful Entry), fined, and placed on
probation, wrote:
>
> For those so inclined and interested...
That would be you and Marsha Kalfsbeek, period.
catul...@my-deja.com
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Before you buy.
Beep
wrote:
>
>
>Edmond "limpdick" Wollmann wrote:
>>
>> You all keep abusing and you evoke these posts ...
>
>So you're blaming your obnoxious spew on someone else?
>
>How does it serve you to tell of you that you are a rotten, jive-ass,
>balding scumbag with no ethics?
>
He needs to stop looking for ways to use other people's chart
placements against them.
Especially with his chart.
Pam
next time he does it:
Pluto/Sun/Saturn t-squares, anyone?
Edmond Wollmann
>
> On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 18:05:04 -0800, anonym™ <ano...@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Edmond "limpdick" Wollmann wrote:
> >>
> >> You all keep abusing and you evoke these posts ...
> >
> >So you're blaming your obnoxious spew on someone else?
> >
> >How does it serve you to tell of you that you are a rotten, jive-ass,
> >balding scumbag with no ethics?
> >
> He needs to stop looking for ways to use other people's chart
> placements against them.
>
> Especially with his chart.
>
> Pam
> next time he does it:
> Pluto/Sun/Saturn t-squares, anyone?
Thank you for your response. It seems that there is an inability to stay
focused on, or to deal with, the issues at hand. I am not really
interested nor inclined to attempt to resolve personal intonations
implicate in these responses. Astrology is the alt.group hierarchy topic
for this group.
If my posts serve you use them-if they don't, don't.
I do not ask anyone to believe ANYTHING I say simply on the basis that I
said it.
One must take responsibility for their psychological reactions in
interactions with others that are not conducive to logical resolutions,
nurturing insight, or inspired conversation-and reframe them. I would
really rather discuss issues rather than personalities (which is
fallacious) and wish you the best in your pursuits. It is my sincere
hope that you can rid yourself of this negativity and pettyness. I have
faith that you can, regardless of how miserable you insist on being.
Although healthy competition is always a catalyst, I feel that this
component is out of control and is interfering in this case. I find it
unproductive and would rather not waste time in sarcasm and or blaming.
Time is very important to me and I enjoy personal development and
spirited conversation. I post on usenet with the intention of learning
and/or sharing what I know.
If in the future we can refrain from personal defenses and innuendo I
would be glad to resume with the issues at hand.
Thank you for understanding if I choose not to respond any further in
any other way than this until then.
--
"And in the morning of my life and in the evening of my day, I will try
to understand in what you say. Through all that life can give to you,
only true love will see you through and we'll stand beside you now in
what you say." The Moody Blues "Every Good Boy Deserves Favor"
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 1999 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/tableof.htm
jfred
> Beep wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 18:05:04 -0800, anonym™ <ano...@pacbell.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >Edmond "limpdick" Wollmann wrote:
> > >>
> > >> You all keep abusing and you evoke these posts ...
> > >
> > >So you're blaming your obnoxious spew on someone else?
> > >
> > >How does it serve you to tell of you that you are a rotten, jive-ass,
> > >balding scumbag with no ethics?
> > >
> > He needs to stop looking for ways to use other people's chart
> > placements against them.
> >
> > Especially with his chart.
> >
> > Pam
> > next time he does it:
> > Pluto/Sun/Saturn t-squares, anyone?
>
> Thank you for your response. It seems that there is an inability to stay
<snip!>
Thank you for your response. It seems that Wollmann has an inability to
stay focused on, or to deal with, the issues at hand. He is not really
interested in the facts, nor inclined to attempt to understand basic
logic.
If his posts serve you, use them -- if they don't, go someplace else
because Wollmann won't stand for people disagreeing with him. He does
ask anyone to believe ANYTHING he says simply on the basis that he said
it, even though he has no credibility, credentials, or degrees.
Wollmann should take responsibility for his psychological reactions in
interactions with others that are not conducive to logical resolutions,
nurturing insight, or inspired conversation, but he doesn't. He would
really rather lecture about his own contradictory and deranged beliefs.
It is my sincere hope that you can rid yourself of his negativity and
pettiness. I have faith that you can, regardless of how miserable he
insists on being. Keep in mind, his posts are for entertainment purposes
only.
Although healthy competition is always a catalyst, he feels that this
component is out of control and is interfering with his ability to win.
He finds it unproductive and would rather waste time in sarcasm and or
blaming. Time is very important to him and he needs it for all his
whining, snipping, spamming, abusive cross-posting, and powerless
complaints. He posts on usenet with the intention bilking money out of
the innocent and naive.
If in the future we can refrain from scaring him with facts and logic he
would be glad to resume the same of tired boiler-plate posting that he's
been doing for years. We can expect to see more of his usual powerless
whining until then. Thank you for understanding that he will not stop
contradicting himself under any conditions.
"And in the morning of the desert and in the evening of the day, I will
try to understand why you trap wild animals. Through all that life can
give to you, why would you try to take that away from a helpless, free
creature, you asshole?" --The Moody Blues "Every Good New Mexican
Astrology Kook who molests Wildlife Deserves a Beating"
--
jfred - http://www.smbtech.com/ed/ - Some folks look for answers
Others look for fights/Some folks up in treetops/Just to look to see
the sights/I can tell your future/Look what's in your hand/But I can't
stop for nothing/I'm just playing in the band. (Robert Hunter)
anonym™
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Beep wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 18:05:04 -0800, anonym™ <ano...@pacbell.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >Edmond "limpdick" Wollmann wrote:
> > >>
> > >> You all keep abusing and you evoke these posts ...
> > >
> > >So you're blaming your obnoxious spew on someone else?
> > >
> > >How does it serve you to tell of you that you are a rotten, jive-ass,
> > >balding scumbag with no ethics?
> > >
> > He needs to stop looking for ways to use other people's chart
> > placements against them.
> >
> > Especially with his chart.
> >
> > Pam
> > next time he does it:
> > Pluto/Sun/Saturn t-squares, anyone?
>
> Thank you for your response.
SNIP!
--
"And in the morning of the desert and in the evening of the day, I will
try to understand why you trap wild animals. Through all that life can
give to you, why would you try to take that away from a helpless, free
creature, you asshole?" --The Moody Blues "Every Good New Mexican
Astrology Kook who molests Wildlife Deserves a Beating"
--
Edmond Wollmann
SNIP!
The universe is precisely balanced between negative and positive energy.
Let me say at the outset that this has absolutely NOTHING to do with
"good and bad". These are subjective value judgements and really tell us
little about the nature of any idea, but much about the observer.
Because the universe is so balanced it is inherently positive. In other
words to be so balanced is positive itself. But the whole of existence
is IN EXISTENCE because this polarization externalizes and manifests the
"All That Is" from nonphysical into physical. Which brings us to
negative aspects. Please understand "affliction" as another word for
dis-ease. A state of being in which contradiction, conflict and the need
for resolution exist UNRESOLVED. This state of being if unresolved
allows organisms to attack because of the belief in powerlessness, but
negative aspects are not inherently in a state of dis-ease. It is the
resistance to growth reflected as a need through the negative aspects,
that all pain and suffering is the effect of.
Squares and oppositions seek resolution and fulfillment towards ease
(trine). This is not inherently "bad". This actually implies awareness
of the paradoxical nature of "things". Tension is required to walk upon
the earth. The resistance of our legs to the constant pull of gravity
allows us to MOVE instead of remaining in an inertial state. Without
developmental tension nothing moves. It is negative energy that drives
the material universe. If these aspects are seen in preponderance in the
chart it reflects a powerful developmental potential. Like the universe
balance is important. It is the judgement of tension that creates
anxiety. It is the welcoming of tension that is felt as excitement.
Tension is essential for growth. Ease is not necessarily "good" and
tension is not necessarily "bad" so there are no good and bad aspects!
The positive aspects of trine and sextile are the areas where tension
FINDS resolution. They allow for the integration of developmental
tension. Self-empowerment is the recognition that you chose this chart
that you have now for a reason, the hallway of your developmental
choice. You are always creating your reality 100%-even when you use 90%
of this ability to create the illusion that you only have the other 10%!
It is the negative aspects that need attention-the trines support the
squares. What awareness or resolution can be gleaned from this square or
opposition? There is no end. There will be levels higher and higher in
regards to that developmental awareness that can be achieved, welcome
it. The positive aspects have nothing to support and ease if
developmental tension is not acted upon. Negative aspects are your
prescription for action chosen before incarnation, and aspect patterns
are the psychological reflection of how these things are dealt with by
the personality. Psychology is simply the understanding of the exchange
of psychic material consciously and unconsciously and the resulting
behavior therefrom. It is an analysis of the individuals beliefs about
their ability to manifest themselves.
Positive and negative aspects tell us the identity's belief in the
ability to manifest, integrate and express the idea that they are.
Please encourage them in their ability to do so. It is belief and
approach that determines effect extracted. It can be an exciting
exploration of consciousness, the waking up to other levels of
knowingness (Uranus) instead of perceived external limitation and threat
(Saturn). The choice of course is yours.
"I suffer nought against my will, I am not obedient to God, I am in
accord with him, and the more so, because I know that everything takes
place in virtue of an immutable law proclaimed from all eternity."
"Sucipe" a prayer St. Ignatius
Edmond Wollmann
SNIP!
WRONG.
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anonym™
Edmond H. Wollmann, convicted in San Diego on 6/28/98 of a misdemeanor
(California Penal Code 555- Unlawful Entry), fined, and placed on
Maroon Winner!) Award, P.M.A.F.A.(Prediction Mangler of Augusts'
Financial Attributes) and 1998 Usenet Kook of the Year wrote:
>
> anonym™ wrote:
> SNIP!
> WRONG...
Yes, it *is* wrong to snip what I wrote!
"Why am I an asshole?" -Ed Wollmann
"Whhat is you moon in?" -Ed
"I have even received letters from confused readers who have purchased
my text and were baffled..." -Ed Wollmann
"Yeah, yeah, yeah Mr. Big man hides behind Deja News." -Ed
"Where do you want to meet? How about the roller coaster-be warned I will
have officers with me." -Ed Wollmann, coward.
"For the sake of the newsgroup I am going to get off for good." Ed
Wollmann, liar,
12/7/97
"If you wish to keep trying I am sure someone will. I am leaving town."
Ed
Wollmann, 4/2/98
"Cencorship continues, so here's my last post" - Ed Wollmann, lying
again, 3/18/99
"I am no longer posting and all messages you see are forgeries." Ed
Wollmann,continual liar
5/26/99 (and various dates thereafter)
"I am permanently off usenet as of 7/20/99 --Ed Wollmann, proven liar
"I am permanently off usenet as of 7/29/99" - Ed Wollmann, pathological liar
"ARCTURUS- ... This star is the center of many solar systems " -Ed the
idiot
"I am going to send complaints to Bellsouth and Pacbell from every
account I can get on thwe (sic) planet."-Ed Wollmann
"Be careful people you have moved right into my grip now".-Ed Wollmann
"I contacted an FBI agent and corruption in the legal system was found."
-Edmo the Paranoid Moron.
YOU imbecile-YOOOOOOUUUUU attacked me-YOUU idiot. I simply talked to a
few people. YOOOOUUU guys are intent on censoring me and removing me
from a public group.-Ed Wollmann
"She gave me nothing-I on the other hand gave her a nice pair of tweety
bird panties, a nice silk get up, and a camping trip to look at the real
constellation of Scorpio." -Ed the tweety bird panty giver.
"I would never do to a past love what you did to me. You are disgusting, and
it will be my pleasure watching you grow old alone." Ed the no-so
sensitive, not-too mature, and unstable nutcase.
"Good thing your opinions are worthless." Ed, being as tolerant as he can
possibly be.
""If you are a male, avoid this viper, she is known as the rich bitch on
the hill." Ed the wierdo.
"I do do laundry. I have to because there will be no females in this house
for the next 20 years." Ed Wollmann, Masturbator.
Your days are numbered..." - Ed Wollmann, threatening again.
anonym™
Edmond H. Wollmann, convicted in San Diego on 6/28/98 of a misdemeanor
(California Penal Code 555- Unlawful Entry), fined, and placed on
probation, July 1999 Winner of the Looney Maroon, (SIX time Looney
Maroon Winner!) Award, P.M.A.F.A.(Prediction Mangler of Augusts'
Financial Attributes) and 1998 Usenet Kook of the Year wrote:
>
> SNIP!
>
> The universe is precisely balanced between negative and positive energy.
Yes, with you providing 97% of the Negative portion.
SNIP!
Edmond Wollmann
anonym™
Edmond H. Wollmann, 1998 Usenet Kook of the Year, wrote:
>
> http://www.astrocons...
"There is no bar to knowledge greater than dropping out of high school
because you set yourself on fire." Herbert Spencer
Edmond Wollmann
anonym™
Edmond H. Wollmann, convicted in San Diego on 6/28/98 of a misdemeanor
(California Penal Code 555- Unlawful Entry), fined, and placed on
Science, Bobo, Looney Maroon, (SIX time Looney Maroon Winner!), Tar &
Feathers, and Bolo Bullis Foam Duck Awards, P.M.A.F.A.(Prediction
Mangler of Augusts' Financial Attributes) and 1998 Usenet Kook of the
Year wrote:
>
> SNIP!
Edmond Wollmann
> I know where evil dwells:
SNIP!
Lazzarini, Rick (RL738) lazz...@AOL.COM aka ano...@pacbell.net
The Character Shop
9033 Owensmouth Ave.
Canoga Park, CA 91304
818-718-0094
Did you have any astrology to discuss, abuser?
jfred
> anonym™ wrote:
>
> > I know where evil dwells:
> SNIP!
>
<snip!>
>
> Did you have any astrology to discuss, abuser?
What planetary aspects would cause a person to fail their midterms?
Widdershins
<arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>jfred wrote:
>SNIP!
>
>The universe is precisely balanced between negative and positive energy.
>Let me say at the outset that this has absolutely NOTHING to do with
>"good and bad". These are subjective value judgements and really tell us
>little about the nature of any idea, but much about the observer.
>
>Because the universe is so balanced it is inherently positive.
Snip
Sorry! Logical fallacy. If the universe is precisely balanced between
positive and negative energy (something you've never demonstrated),
and if by balance we imply equal quantities of positive and negative
energy (you never define this), then we cannot infer that the balance
itself is some how positive.
Making that logical leap requires, again by logic, that there be more
positive energy, thereby putting the universe into an imbalance.
Try again, Eddieeeeeee. Your grasp of logic is tenuous at best.
Widdershins
"Actually, I'm quite respected and well liked."
Eddieeeeeee, Spammer, liar, netabuser, and KOTY 1998.
el...@no.spam
Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> Especially with his chart.
>Thank you for your response.
You don't like your chart, Edie?
Tom Kerr
>SNIP!
http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=545636817
"No, it never fails that no matter what sort of tripe you abusers post I
still post something of value." - Ed Wollmann
Just posting "SNIP!" is of value?
jfred
Jim Phillips
> jfred wrote:
> SNIP!
>
> The universe is precisely balanced between negative and positive energy.
And if we could get you to stop spewing, we could really have a
big upswing on the positive energy side.
SPIN!
--
Jim Phillips, jphi...@bcpl.net
"J. K. Rowlings (creator of Harry Potter) has come under attack from
various religious groups for encouraging the dark arts of literacy and
creativity. God-fearing parents across the country have expressed alarm
that Henry's flirtations with death and disaster might be troubling to
children already bewildered by the fact that they'll burn in hell if they
ever touch their genitals." -- The Daily Show, 11/1/99
Jim Phillips
> Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> > anonym™ wrote:
> >
> > > I know where evil dwells:
> > SNIP!
> >
> <snip!>
> >
> > Did you have any astrology to discuss, abuser?
>
> What planetary aspects would cause a person to fail their midterms?
Look over Ed's chart and find out!
Jim Phillips
> Tom Kerr <t...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> > In article <382617...@netscape.net>, arctu...@netscape.net wrote:
> > >SNIP!
> >
> > http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=545636817
> >
> > "No, it never fails that no matter what sort of tripe you abusers post I
> > still post something of value." - Ed Wollmann
> >
> > Just posting "SNIP!" is of value?
>
> No. Apparently Edmo is not even trying to make sense anymore.
"Anymore"?
Edmond Wollmann
>
> Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> > anonym™ wrote:
> >
> > > I know where evil dwells:
> > SNIP!
> >
> <snip!>
> >
> > Did you have any astrology to discuss, abuser?
>
> What planetary aspects would cause a person to fail their midterms?
I have never failed anything, therefore I would have no info as people
who fail like you are not interested in learning what they can do to
improve.
Get it abuser boy?
jfred
> jfred wrote:
> >
> > Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >
> > > anonym™ wrote:
> > >
> > > > I know where evil dwells:
> > > SNIP!
> > >
> > <snip!>
> > >
> > > Did you have any astrology to discuss, abuser?
> >
> > What planetary aspects would cause a person to fail their midterms?
>
> I have never failed anything,
I've seen you fail right here more times than I can count, Edmo.
> therefore I would have no info as people who fail like you are not
> interested in learning what they can do to improve.
You expect people to believe that you have "counseled" the multitudes
and have never run across anyone who has failed?
> Get it abuser boy?
Here's a comma [,] -- see if you can figure out where it goes, oh great
author and publisher.
Edmond Wollmann
>
> Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > jfred wrote:
> > >
> > > Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > anonym™ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I know where evil dwells:
> > > > SNIP!
> > > >
> > > <snip!>
> > > >
> > > > Did you have any astrology to discuss, abuser?
> > >
> > > What planetary aspects would cause a person to fail their midterms?
> >
> > I have never failed anything,
>
> I've seen you fail right here more times than I can count, Edmo.
>
> > therefore I would have no info as people who fail like you are not
> > interested in learning what they can do to improve.
>
> You expect people to believe that you have "counseled" the multitudes
> and have never run across anyone who has failed?
>
> > Get it abuser boy?
>
> Here's a comma [,] -- see if you can figure out where it goes, oh great
> author and publisher.
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jfred
> jfred wrote:
> >
> > Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > jfred wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > anonym™ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I know where evil dwells:
> > > > > SNIP!
> > > > >
> > > > <snip!>
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you have any astrology to discuss, abuser?
> > > >
> > > > What planetary aspects would cause a person to fail their midterms?
> > >
> > > I have never failed anything,
> >
> > I've seen you fail right here more times than I can count, Edmo.
> >
> > > therefore I would have no info as people who fail like you are not
> > > interested in learning what they can do to improve.
> >
> > You expect people to believe that you have "counseled" the multitudes
> > and have never run across anyone who has failed?
> >
> > > Get it abuser boy?
> >
> > Here's a comma [,] -- see if you can figure out where it goes, oh great
> > author and publisher.
> Path:
<snip!>
You have no idea where the comma should go in the above sentence, do
you?
There's another page about you, Edmo: http://www.idiot.com/
jfred
> In article <3825E0...@netscape.net>,
> Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >anonym™ wrote:
> >SNIP!
> >WRONG.
>
> Prove it, criminal.
He can't. He admitted that he can't prove anything.
el...@no.spam
el...@no.spam
jfred <jf...@think.different> wrote:
>> Get it abuser boy?
>Here's a comma [,] -- see if you can figure out where it goes, oh great
>author and publisher.
Think he can get it in three tries?
--
"Complaints will now be sent with this evidence that you plan to abuse
me simply because you are an egomaniac."
-Edmond Wollmann, a$trologer, liar, spammer, hypocrite, censor, Jan. '98 KoTM,
convicted criminal, asshole, bully, Kook of the Year 1998
el...@no.spam
Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>Did you have any astrology to discuss, abuser?
What astrology do you want me to teach you, kook?
el...@no.spam
Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> What planetary aspects would cause a person to fail their midterms?
>I have never failed anything,
What does that have to do with the question? Besides, you've failed
at many things. Real estate is but one. High school is another.
>therefore I would have no info as people
>who fail like you are not interested in learning what they can do to
>improve.
You're conclusion is irrelevant because your premise is false.
>Get it abuser boy?
Yeah, we get it. You have a giant ego that can't handle criticism so
you have to deny all you obvious faults.
So how did you do on midterms, kook?
Widdershins
<arctu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>jfred wrote:
>>
>> Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
snip
>> > I have never failed anything,
>>
>> I've seen you fail right here more times than I can count, Edmo.
>>
>> > therefore I would have no info as people who fail like you are not
>> > interested in learning what they can do to improve.
>>
>> You expect people to believe that you have "counseled" the multitudes
>> and have never run across anyone who has failed?
>>
>> > Get it abuser boy?
>>
>> Here's a comma [,] -- see if you can figure out where it goes, oh great
>> author and publisher.
>Path:
>
>newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.atl!news1.atl.POSTED!jfred
> Newsgroups:
>
snip
I love it! Eddieeeeeee denies he's failed, and then uses his usual
tactic when he fails. Way to go, Eddieeeeeee!
The Evil Widdershins PMAFA
SAN 299-5603
(Call after 6 PM)
jfred
> In article <1e0ydqm.10ax2fad53lg9N%jf...@think.different>,
> jfred <jf...@think.different> wrote:
>
> >> Get it abuser boy?
>
> >Here's a comma [,] -- see if you can figure out where it goes, oh great
> >author and publisher.
>
> Think he can get it in three tries?
Not a chance.
el...@no.spam
jfred <jf...@think.different> wrote:
>> >Here's a comma [,] -- see if you can figure out where it goes, oh great
>> >author and publisher.
>> Think he can get it in three tries?
>Not a chance.
Agreed.
Edmond Wollmann
>
> In my documented and proven work, I explain NET CENSORSHIP AND
> TERRORISM (NCAT)
>
> http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
>
> In article <7vs64v$b50$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>,
> "wildearth" <wild...@acm.org> wrote:
> > Edmond H. Wollmann wrote in message <382127...@yahoo.com>...
>
> > >http://www.astroconsulting.com/SDSU/toc.htm
>
> > > Goal Overview
> > >Part 1
>
> > > In 1970 I began studying Astrology essentially as a
> > > skeptic. A traumatic series of injuries lead me to
> > > question life deeply.
>
> > Would that be a traumatic series of head injuries?
>
> Look, I've been reading alt.astrology for years. I know that
> you and the other sickos don't have any real reason to harass
> Edmond Wollmann, from what he's posted.
>
> If you would just allow him to do what he wants, to post astrology
> in astrology newsgroups, he would do so. He's not a problem to
> you people. You just make up problems about him.
>
> He's nasty when you people are nasty to him.
>
> Let him be! For god sakes, what is _wrong_ with you jerks!?
>
> --
>
> Psychics, Astrologers, UFOs,
> Mysticism and the Newsgroups
> What's happening?
> http://www.psicounsel.com/news
I enjoy investigating the dynamics of things in life by immersing myself
in the events.
I have sincerely come to the conclusion, that without this harassing
others, these losers have absolutely no direction or purpose in life,
and hence, thrive on any sort of response whatever. It is really, really
sad. Because there can be no accomplishment of anything other than that
as the 3--going on 4 years of abuse now has clearly demonstrated.
They have not affected me. My site is up and expanding, book selling,
artworks will be forthcoming more and more. I have a blast everyday in
every other aspect of my "life of Riley" following my inspiration from
day to day--, it would be a nice addition if I could discuss on usenet,
but not mandatory, nor will it make a bit of difference in reference to
my other affairs (except that I have to waste time updating the
propaganda pages) Which I haven't done because I have some great art
projects going with about 20 women!:-)
I do get angry, because my anger is the effect of the recognition that I
am NOT the vibration they are, and find such a waste of a lifetime as
they lead, to be unacceptable to me. It changes nothing, nor does it
indicate anything other than that no matter how they try to spin it. I
have Leo rising, I get hot as a firey lion and when I get done posting
or whatever I have already forgotten it (except in those cases where I
believe it necessary to follow it to the end for decisive "victories of
principles"). It is meaningless otherwise--but you see they WISH it to
be meaningful, because they HAVE NO SIGNIFICANCE IN *THEIR* lives, and
in that way attempt to find some. Notice how Ellis and anonym, move away
from my statements about lying in wait to answer my posts, because THEY
KNOW it is a sign of THEIR failings.
I NEVER know, nor do I care when they get online, but they are ALWAYS
there when I post--that is scary, not for me, for them. They really need
to look at that, but I csannot take repsonsibility for them.
The rest is bullshit.
"Life is as fleeting as a rainbow, a flash of lightning, a star at dawn.
Knowing this how can you quarrel?" The Buddha
anonym™
Dan Kettler wrote:
...
>
> He's nasty when you people are nasty to him.
Bullshit. He's arrogant and nasty from the get-go, douchbag.
>
> Let him be!
No, asshole.
UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT
DISTRICT OF COLORADO - DENVER
In Re KETTLER BRUCE D
PETITIONER: KETTLER BRUCE D
079-32-0941
102 JACKSON DR
FIRESTONE, CO 80520
NUMBER: 9317020
FILED: 06/28/1993
TYPE: Chapter 7
I know where evil dwells:
Dan Kettler
In my documented and proven work, I explain NET CENSORSHIP AND
TERRORISM (NCAT)
http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
In article <7vs64v$b50$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>,
"wildearth" <wild...@acm.org> wrote:
> Edmond H. Wollmann wrote in message <382127...@yahoo.com>...
> >http://www.astroconsulting.com/SDSU/toc.htm
> > Goal Overview
> >Part 1
> > In 1970 I began studying Astrology essentially as a
> > skeptic. A traumatic series of injuries lead me to
> > question life deeply.
> Would that be a traumatic series of head injuries?
Look, I've been reading alt.astrology for years. I know that
you and the other sickos don't have any real reason to harass
Edmond Wollmann, from what he's posted.
If you would just allow him to do what he wants, to post astrology
in astrology newsgroups, he would do so. He's not a problem to
you people. You just make up problems about him.
He's nasty when you people are nasty to him.
Let him be! For god sakes, what is _wrong_ with you jerks!?
--
Psychics, Astrologers, UFOs,
Mysticism and the Newsgroups
What's happening?
http://www.psicounsel.com/news
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
anonym™
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
...
> I do get angry, because my anger is the effect of the recognition that I
> am NOT the vibration they are...
ANd you say you prefer that lifestyle. KOOK!
Dan Pressnell
> as the 3--going on 4 years of abuse now has clearly demonstrated.
That's better. "--" for a dash.
> day to day--, it would be a nice addition if I could discuss on usenet,
I don't think it's proper to combine a dash with a comma, though.
> The rest is bullshit.
Yes, I know, but you are getting the dashes right now.
Dan
Beep
<arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
snipped for space
>
>I enjoy investigating the dynamics of things in life by immersing myself
>in the events.
>I have sincerely come to the conclusion, that without this harassing
>others, these losers have absolutely no direction or purpose in life,
>and hence, thrive on any sort of response whatever. It is really, really
>sad. Because there can be no accomplishment of anything other than that
>as the 3--going on 4 years of abuse now has clearly demonstrated.
>They have not affected me. My site is up and expanding, book selling,
>artworks will be forthcoming more and more. I have a blast everyday in
>every other aspect of my "life of Riley" following my inspiration from
>day to day--, it would be a nice addition if I could discuss on usenet,
If you wanted to discuss astrology, all you would have to do
is...start discussing it. But the discussion won't be productive if
you insult people, send complaints, have tantrums, etc. You should
have learned that in the sandbox years! ;)
>but not mandatory, nor will it make a bit of difference in reference to
>my other affairs (except that I have to waste time updating the
>propaganda pages) Which I haven't done because I have some great art
>projects going with about 20 women!:-)
>I do get angry, because my anger is the effect of the recognition that I
>am NOT the vibration they are, and find such a waste of a lifetime as
>they lead, to be unacceptable to me.
That's a nice spin for you to tell yourself while you are having so
many problems getting along with people. But it's not the road to
psychological health.
Pam
--
email address:
beep at west dot net
Rheumatic Disease info:
http://www.silcom.com/~sblc
Edmond Wollmann
SNIP!
No one needs your lessons, especially people who are so above you you
don't even get it.
Edmond Wollmann
>
> Dan Kettler wrote:
>
> [snip your urls AGAIN. God you're obsessive.]
You really don't understand psychology at all do you?:-)))
How can one person be obsessive all by themselves with another who won't
leave them alone insisting on what they are?
anonym™
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> CFA wrote:
> >
> > Dan Kettler wrote:
> >
> > [snip your urls AGAIN. God you're obsessive.]
>
> You really don't understand psychology at all do you?:-)))
You really don;t even have a fucking Bachelors Degree in the subject do you?
>
> How can one person be obsessive all by themselves with another who won't
> leave them alone insisting on what they are?
You're being incoherent again, freak.
anonym™
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Beep wrote:
> SNIP!
> No one needs you
You sure are obsessed with Pam. You lied when you said you wouldn't
respond to her anymore.
That's a real three-year old thing for you to have said, dweeb.
Beep
<arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>Beep wrote:
>SNIP!
>No one needs your lessons, especially people who are so above you you
>don't even get it.
Actually, I believe we all have things to teach and learn from each
other.
Pam
not *everything* is a desperate fight for status...
not in my reality, that is
Tom Kerr
>Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>> as the 3--going on 4 years of abuse now has clearly demonstrated.
>
You know, Ed does learn some things from posting to Usenet.
>
>> day to day--, it would be a nice addition if I could discuss on usenet,
>
>I don't think it's proper to combine a dash with a comma, though.
>
It isn't. I take back what I just wrote.
And I thought he was progressing....
>> The rest is bullshit.
>
>Yes, I know, but you are getting the dashes right now.
He isn't.
Ed is a comma and hyphen abuser. I have little sympathy for him. I think some
sort of campaign should be launched. On the whole, hyphens and commas are
defenseless, and I don't think we should let them be abused by Ed. They're
cute and yet are so important in the English language.
What's even more sad is that the public are forced to buy self-published books
in which commas and hyphens are so obviously abused and tortured.
It's time to take a stand.
So...
You first.
jfred
> In my documented and proven work, I explain NET CENSORSHIP AND
> TERRORISM (NCAT)
>
> http://www.psicounsel.com/discsens.html
>
> In article <7vs64v$b50$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>,
> "wildearth" <wild...@acm.org> wrote:
> > Edmond H. Wollmann wrote in message <382127...@yahoo.com>...
>
> > >http://www.astroconsulting.com/SDSU/toc.htm
>
> > > Goal Overview
> > >Part 1
>
> > > In 1970 I began studying Astrology essentially as a
> > > skeptic. A traumatic series of injuries lead me to
> > > question life deeply.
>
> > Would that be a traumatic series of head injuries?
>
> Look, I've been reading alt.astrology for years. I know that
> you and the other sickos don't have any real reason to harass
> Edmond Wollmann, from what he's posted.
bDAN, have you, Bruce Daniel Kettler, been to
http://www.smbtech.com/ed/?
> If you would just allow him to do what he wants, to post astrology
> in astrology newsgroups, he would do so. He's not a problem to
> you people. You just make up problems about him.
Who made up this stuff?
"EAT SHIT YOU UGLY BITCH!!!!!!"
"what do you think I am an idiot?"
"I accidentally spammed"
"Follow ups set where I want them and you'll take them."
"now get out and shut up."
"I cannot enjoy usenet isn't there SOMEONE who can control this crap!?"
"I was a hoodlum biker for years"
"You spin doctoring piece of crap"
"You are off topic, complaints sent. No one needs you trying to control
usenet."
"SNIP! Of garbage from young punk wet behind the ears."
"And you are full of crap."
"I honor my anger because it is correct."
"Snipped your 196th spam of you fucking URL I will never go to and no
one
gives a shit about."
"you are ugly as fuck inside and out."
"Wait till we meet in person ass hole I'll rip you a new one then too."
"I did not you lying B$#%#@#%#!"
"You are a pile of garbage."
"Its irrelevant, I am a professional astrologer."
"I have been the man in many women's lives."
"I have no problems, only solutions."
"when do scum deserve any truth"
"THE NUMBER-IIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
IIIIIIIIIIRRRRRREEEEEELLLLLLLEEEEEEVVVVVVVAAAAAANNNNNNTTTTT."
"Then come back and I will still laugh at you."
"Really Rick, you are the lowest waste of carbon molecules I think
I have ever run across."
"And I said rip you a new one in person as I have on usenet-I didn't say
what."
"And I have already debunked the idea that I wear underware on any part
of
my body."
"I don't sell out my awareness and knowlege FOR money."
"You have made a life enemy, aren't you proud of yourself?"
"I can give nothing"
"8000 complaints lined up."
"WRONG YOU LYING SON OF A BITCH!!!"
"GGGGTGEEEETTTT IIIIITTTTT OOOOUUUUTTT!!!!!"
"Complaintsd sent for your threats, and your death threats to me on
usenet."
"[sic]Its not me with OCD Ricky-its you spinics."
"And 21 dollars for a book with this much info and 500 pages is a
steal."
"You are a brown nosing and gutless person who seems to have no
principles or guide by which they live-other than agreeing with
everyone."
"Why must I endure this on usenet while anyone else cries in a second
for not nearly the abuse I get?"
"I am a coward and scared to death of spinics."
"First day on campus! AAAAAiiiiiiieeeeee! 30,000 femininas! So little
time!!!!"
"I will straighten out your delusions."
"Pam is a slime for supporting anonym"
"I WILL NWEVER APOLOGIZE AS AN ASTROLOGER- FOR DEFENDING AN ASTROLOGY
GROUP AGAINST SPAMMING SPIN DOCTORING BIGOTS."
"Comprende Mr Out of integrity?"
"Why do you leave out the correct attributions?"
"Duh gee bosth, uhhh no!"
"Wrong, it is the theory that determines what we observe."
"You can walk into any store and buy aliens"
"Duh!"
"I don't need a transvestite telling me how to run astrology groups."
"I am warning you spinic-you are fast becoming enemy #1-get out or post
rationally bigot."
"Actually, I am quite respected and well liked."
"Oh, I see, because I post on usenet I have lost all constitutional and
legal, and natural human rights?"
"I only respond disruptively to disruptive posts off topic by spinics"
"I have more humor in my little Mercury in Gemini finger than you and
these abusers have ever seen."
"Because the universe is so balanced it is inherently positive."
"I am unlike anyone you have ever met and ever will-don't pigeon hole me
you son of a bitch!" EHW
"Complaints will continue into infinity-and increase."
"Wow another immature ignoamous, why couldn't you explain your point
first
before I refute it?"
"Truth, truth!! Warning spinics run for your lives!"
"I will only respond to you and your lack of integrity by sending
complaints for your abuse from every mailbox I can get."
"You have demonstrated yourself to be vile and negative."
"LYING DISINGENOUS ABUSER"
"Yes I do, hundreds of them! Bwahahahahahahah!!!"
"you are just a spin doctor who makes no noise"
"I have been where you are long ago."
"Have you ever had sex or even a woman Ricky?"
"Are you really so stupid and insulting?"
"Orion is a star."
"Because ISPs rake in money like crazy and then UNFAIRLY kill someone's
account just because a bunch of bigots demand it to be so."
"The liars and abusers seek to defame with more lies."
"The planets are circular"
"Science doesn't do anything."
"Who cares? I go to a University, I have access to MORE "proported
evidence" than you it is IRRELEVENT-it is not done correctly and it will
be very difficult to prove a subject that reflects what intelligent
people know-that the whole organizes the parts-not vice versa."
"DISCOVERY is for a criminal case idiot"
"Your client continues to stalk, harass, belittle, abuse and denigrate.
Please take action."
"Why don't you find another group for your mindless one liners?"
"She is the shitball."
"Whoopdiedoodledaday! Cynics can post all fucking year-but let me post
a couple of remarks and whooooooaaaa!"
"the difference between me nd you idiots is that I can get in a bar
brawl
(I was a hoodlum biker for>years) down a 5th of Tequlia, kick the fuck
out of you, talk like this-AND STILL post something of value, counsel
persons and meitate on nature, and do a piece of art to find center."
"We will go on forever, you and I, and you sir, will lose."
"Astrology is not based on Constellations."
"I see Rick Ellis illegally canceled it."
"I saw it as straining at gnats and not worthy of punishment."
"Forwarded to the state attorney general and my congressman. You screwed
up this time buddy, this is against the law."
"I will never stop"
> He's nasty when you people are nasty to him.
He's nasty in a vacuum. Wake up, bDAN.
> Let him be! For god sakes, what is _wrong_ with you jerks!?
How about you go ask Uri? He's a psychic, so he should know.
Edmo created this reality, bDAN. Who are you to question it?
Racer A
><snip!>
>> Did you have any astrology to discuss, abuser?
And forget to post the Dean's List they (supposedly) appeared on!
ash
['We wanna see, fucknuts!']
--
_________________________________________________________________
6 One ...that which we are, we are. 2 ash
freerandomnumbersnoocelotsfornobodydonteattheposesrepeatsinfinitl
"Another bloody country gone West."
Widdershins
wrote:
> "wildearth" <wild...@acm.org> wrote:
>> Edmond H. Wollmann wrote in message <382127...@yahoo.com>...
>
>
>> > Goal Overview
>> >Part 1
>
>> > In 1970 I began studying Astrology essentially as a
>> > skeptic. A traumatic series of injuries lead me to
>> > question life deeply.
>
>> Would that be a traumatic series of head injuries?
>
>Look, I've been reading alt.astrology for years. I know that
>you and the other sickos don't have any real reason to harass
>Edmond Wollmann, from what he's posted.
That's bullshit, and you know it, Brucie.
>
>If you would just allow him to do what he wants, to post astrology
>in astrology newsgroups, he would do so.
If he would just post astrology, most of us would not be here.
He is a wannabe net cop, who can't stand the idea of not
being infallible. He has to be in charge. He has to be the
authority. He can't leave people alone.
He has pulled more unethical, and borderline illegal
stuff here in the past three years, than I would have thought
possible. All because people do not accept his assertions as the final
word.
>He's not a problem to
>you people. You just make up problems about him.
No, Brucie, he makes his own problems.
>
>He's nasty when you people are nasty to him.
He started by being nasty to people who were just trying to
get him to explain his onager assertion. Brucie, I know, because
when I didn't have enough to do this past summer, I went back in
Deja.com 3 1/2 years to when he started posting, and read
forward.
He started with ad hominem attacks on people who were simply asking
questions. These were not attacks on Ed. He simply cannot be wrong,
and so he lashes out when his infallibility is called into question.
>
>Let him be! For god sakes, what is _wrong_ with you jerks!?
If we let him be, he would have had a dozen people's access
pulled through spurious and false complaints. If we let him be,
he'd have continued to issue illegal third party cancels.
If we let him be, he would run people off the group through
his threats of lawsuits.
Fuck him! And you!
Widdershins
PMAFA
The first rule of holes: If you are in one, stop digging.
Widdershins
<arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>Beep wrote:
>SNIP!
>No one needs your lessons, especially people who are so above you you
>don't even get it.
Terms such as "above," and "below," are subjective value judgments,
Eddieeeeeee.
Jim Phillips
> On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:37:24 -0800, Edmond Wollmann
> <arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >Beep wrote:
> >SNIP!
> >No one needs your lessons, especially people who are so above you you
> >don't even get it.
>
> Terms such as "above," and "below," are subjective value judgments,
> Eddieeeeeee.
Ed was referring to the List Of Assholes--I think we can all agree
that he is much higher on the list ("above") than just about anyone. In
fact, society as a whole makes broad definitions possible--and again, Ed
would be an asshole by society's definitions.
--
Jim Phillips, jphi...@bcpl.net
"Once again decent citizens will be able to enter this house of
worship, kneel down in front of a nearly-naked man hanging from a wooden
apparatus by a series of gruesome body piercings, and engage in their
bizarre practices of ritualized blood-drinking and cannibalism without
being assaulted by graphic images of attractive young women with bare
breasts". -- A. Whitney Brown, "The Daily Show"
Racer A
>Beep wrote:
>SNIP!
>No one needs your lessons, especially people who are so above you you
>don't even get it.
Can't handle it when your SHOT DOWN IN FLAMES?
ash
['Can you, fucknuts?']
jfred
> In article <80dr0a$96q$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Dan Kettler <d...@psicounsel.com> wrote:
>
> >Look, I've been reading alt.astrology for years.
>
> So?
I don't believe he has. If he's "been reading alt.astrology for years"
he'd know what a major flaming, hairy, encrusted, cracking asshole
Wollmann is.
> >I know
>
> You claim.
>
> >that you and the other sickos don't have any real reason to harass Edmond
> >Wollmann, from what he's posted.
>
> That's just an opinion, Danny. But your opinions aren't worth the
> leptons you molested to post them.
Especially since they're apparently based on ignorance. Has bDAN even
looked at http://www.smbtech.com/ed/ ? It doesn't appear that he has.
el...@no.spam
>Look, I've been reading alt.astrology for years.
So?
>I know
el...@no.spam
Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@netscape.net> wrote:
>Beep wrote:
>SNIP!
>No one needs your lessons,
How would you know? I'm sure you can see with your head
way up there.
Charles Urlic Farley
jfred <jf...@think.different> wrote in message
news:1e1c366.1njpyjaojpa71N%jf...@think.different...
> <el...@no.spam> wrote:
>
> > In article <80dr0a$96q$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > Dan Kettler <d...@psicounsel.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Look, I've been reading alt.astrology for years.
> >
> > So?
>
> I don't believe he has. If he's "been reading alt.astrology for
> years" he'd know what a major flaming, hairy, encrusted, cracking
> asshole Wollmann is.
Isn't that a good description of Danny boy as well?
> > >I know
> >
> > You claim.
> >
> > >that you and the other sickos don't have any real reason to
> > >harass Edmond Wollmann, from what he's posted.
> >
> > That's just an opinion, Danny. But your opinions aren't worth
> > the leptons you molested to post them.
>
> Especially since they're apparently based on ignorance. Has bDAN
> even looked at http://www.smbtech.com/ed/ ? It doesn't appear that
> he has.
But he is quite content to spam his advert ridden spooge site.
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spo...@mungmybc.com
<trol...@keesing-keay.gen.nz> wrote:
>But he is quite content to spam his advert ridden spooge site.
HEY! Cut that out, I don't go around linking _your_ name to crap.
Spooge is your friend. Without spooge none of us would be here.
Kindly use more appropriate terms like:
Mangoo
Jizum
Cum
Your co-operation in maintaining the integrity of my choosen handle is
appreciated. Other wise I may be forced to call upon my brethern and
sisteren in the Omny anty-spamn sleze armie (if they can be torn away
from the cheese factory recently liberated from the smelly forg people).
Cut to the quick,
Spooge
solidre in omny's anty-spmamn adn sleez amrye
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