Positive Jupiter transit - the worst time of my life
Eva Ström
Hi all,
How is it possible that Jupiter transits can be so terrible? I am going
through the worst time of my life with transiting Jupiter conjunct my
natal (Capricorn) Venus. I expected this to be the time of my life! If
this is the best I can get under such a positive transit, I don't know
what to do with my life.
The love of my life has just left me for another, and my home will soon be
restored, and I will be forced to life in a tiny part of another apartment
with a terrible noise from the restoration behind a paperthin wall. And I
am self-emplyed, and need to be able to run my own (newly started)
business at home under these conditions. What should I learn from this
turmoil (i.e. my life)?
Of course the astrologers among you immediately thinks: "she must have a
major contradicting transit". But noops - I don't. And I do not have one
single natal planet in the present critical first degrees of any sign.
Has Jupiter changed its character lately?! Or have I ignored some other
aspect;-) of astrology (progressions, harmonics, midpoints...)? My
experience so far is they normally are very much in accord with each
other, so it is almost unnecessary to examine them all.
Anybody else with similar experiences? Or with a deeper experience from
Jupiter transits?
Dale Huckeby
In article <eva.strom-311...@ras-81.wineasy.se>,
Eva Ström <eva....@wineasy.se> wrote:
>How is it possible that Jupiter transits can be so terrible? I am going
>through the worst time of my life with transiting Jupiter conjunct my
>natal (Capricorn) Venus. . . . What should I learn from this turmoil
(i.e. my life)?
The astrologers here would be more likely and better able to comment
substantively if you included your full birthdata. That way we're
not limited to the facts _you_ think are relevant, but can decide for
ourselves what's relevant and what isn't.
Regards,
Dale Huckeby
LizSiddall
Jupiter tends to expand upon or exaggerate whatever it touches.
If Jupiter is transiting your natal Venus, have you considered the
the aspects to your natal Venus from other planets, and is Venus
afflicted in your natal chart? The effects being caused now by the
transit of Jupiter may not be immediatley apparent as beneficial.
That could be another explaination.
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Jupiter does represent the awakening of the spiritual realms. How is
that going?
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Comprehensive Synchronicity
>eva....@wineasy.se (Eva Ström) wrote:
>Hi all,
>How is it possible that Jupiter transits can be so terrible? I am going
>through the worst time of my life with transiting Jupiter conjunct my
>natal (Capricorn) Venus. I expected this to be the time of my life! If
>this is the best I can get under such a positive transit, I don't know
>what to do with my life.
>The love of my life has just left me for another, and my home will soon be
>restored, and I will be forced to life in a tiny part of another apartment
>with a terrible noise from the restoration behind a paperthin wall. And I
>am self-emplyed, and need to be able to run my own (newly started)
>business at home under these conditions. What should I learn from this
>turmoil (i.e. my life)?
>Of course the astrologers among you immediately thinks: "she must have a
AdZe MiXXe
eva....@wineasy.se (Eva Ström) wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>How is it possible that Jupiter transits can be so terrible? I am going
>through the worst time of my life with transiting Jupiter conjunct my
>natal (Capricorn) Venus. I expected this to be the time of my life! If
>this is the best I can get under such a positive transit, I don't know
>what to do with my life.
>
>The love of my life has just left me for another, and my home will soon be
>restored, and I will be forced to life in a tiny part of another apartment
>with a terrible noise from the restoration behind a paperthin wall. And I
>am self-emplyed, and need to be able to run my own (newly started)
>business at home under these conditions. What should I learn from this
>turmoil (i.e. my life)?
>
>Of course the astrologers among you immediately thinks: "she must have a
>major contradicting transit". But noops - I don't. And I do not have one
>single natal planet in the present critical first degrees of any sign.
>
>Has Jupiter changed its character lately?! Or have I ignored some other
>aspect;-) of astrology (progressions, harmonics, midpoints...)? My
>experience so far is they normally are very much in accord with each
>other, so it is almost unnecessary to examine them all.
>
Transits and progressions are two different things. And if you are not
checking out declination you are missing half the picture. Perhaps
Saturn by progresison or transit in declination or longitide is opposing
or squaring or quincunxing something.
Meta
On 1 Jan 1997 03:02:23 GMT, danie...@aol.com (DanielG979) wrote:
>
>
>I have never been able to figure out this love affair with Jupiter.
>Jupiter is about religion (a confining form), conventional wisdom (say
>your prayers and God will help you; or "If you're so smart, buddy why
>ain't you rich?), lawyers and chess players, and athletes--confining
>limitations-all.) These are not about expansion but just games of
>acceptance people play. The Jupiterian signs Sagittarius and Pisces rule
>freedom and imprisonment, drugs and gambling. Any expansion here is
>somewhat transitory or full of illusion. Jupiterians like to live off the
>land and the water. They are the hunters who plunder the animals in the
>forest and they are the fisherpersons who have seriously depleted the
>seas. They never saw a nearly extinct species that they couldn't convince
>themselves needed hunting or overfishing. And they are always telling
>the rest of us to get religion.
>
> If you want religion go seek it in a symbol like Aquarius , watering
>plants or whatever the hell he is doing and nuturing growth not harvesting
>it like the Jupiter folks. Jupiter rules greed and selfishness which was
>glossed over by the ancient astrologers who were originally scribes
>working for Jupiterians they didn't want to offend and maybe lose their
>heads in the process. Jupiterians like to forget that they got where they
>are by climbing on the backs of others it makes it easier for them to
>rationalize hoarding.
>
>They are the eternal Republican playboys in Congress or Parliament or
>whereever who are in need of constant restraint to keep the planet safe
>for the rest of us. A more noble expression needs to surface or maybe a
>new planet to covet like we covet Jupiter only one which wich embodies
>science, commerce, trade, expansion, success, "lots of" progressive
>abundance instead of this wasteful and ruinous Jupiter which is too
>generous to the few and selfish to the rest.
>
>In short if your Jupiter transit was the worst time in your life you are
>living a hip life which will become more apparent to you as the years go
>by. There are reasons to everything which we endure. You probably had
>the opportunity to rob a bank and declined during your Jupiter transit.
>
> My Jupiter is at 6 capricorn and when Jupiter transited it I had
>opportunities to break laws and reap short term rewards and endanger
>others in the process. I'm an Aquarius, the opportunities of my Jupiter
>transit over Venus brought me nothing but wasted time and the necessity to
>constantly change course toward more noble pursuits until it passed
>(whew). I mean it was almost like the damn Lord's prayer "protect us from
>temptation and deliver us from evil". It never ceases to amaze me that
>there are people who can function in sleazy conditions year after year.
>
> Your time will pass and you will be damn glad that Jupiter didn't suck
>you in like it does so many others.
>
>Jupiter is the lord of colesteral as well. Enough of it and you earn a
>triple by-pass!!
>
>Flame away folks!
>
>Michael Jordan Astro...@juno.com
Hi! Jupiter is in its fall in Capricorn, plus while in your twelth
house, you will reap what you have sown. I agree with most of what
you say. All transits and aspects have their downside if give the
wrong "Right" conditions. Be glad you learned and understand.
Happy New Year, whenever that may be. Meta Bright Star
DanielG979
Harry Leroy
In article <eva.strom-311...@ras-81.wineasy.se>,
eva....@wineasy.se (Eva Ström) wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>How is it possible that Jupiter transits can be so terrible?
>
Hi Eva,
maybe transiting Jupiter just expands what he touches, without the classic
reference of good luck necessarily in accomodation ...?
This transit can be explained as follows : you are in a stage in your life
(transit) where you can become conscious (Jupiter) of your preference
(Venus) for restriction and frustration (Capricorn) (so you can transform
it, growing).
Or : you are invited (transit) to grow (Jupiter) through
integration/acknowledgment (Jupiter) of your need (Venus) for structure and
sharply defined action (Capricorn).
Or : by getting a bit into exageration (Jupiter), you can start integrating
(Jupiter) what used (Capricorn) to be feelings (venus) of guilt
(Capricorn).
Or : your guardian angel (Jupiter) taps you on the shoulder (transit) to
remind you (Jupiter) of your duties (Capricorn) towards yourself (Venus)
Maybe you have been too indulging towards others, maybe you have given too
much away of yourself, maybe you have been feeling too insecure about
yourself, making yourself dependent of others, or maybe in the past you
have identified too much with bad luck, or the idea that "lucky people are
bad people" or something like that. Maybe you are stuck in the idea you
have to do everything on your own, not in a position to ask help of others
- or unwilling to admit thusly imperfection. As if circumstances are trying
to help make you see what REALLY is (or should be) important to you.
IMHO the way this transit manifests itself in your life, indicates that you
are probably ready to transcend parental or societally imposed restrictions
on your self-worth - making sure you'll empty that stupid bucket by adding
that few drops that make it run over !
Hope this helps. I really do think it is still all about growth and
expansion !
Herman
Traci
Eva Str=F6m wrote:
> =
> Hi all,
> =
> How is it possible that Jupiter transits can be so terrible? I am going=
> through the worst time of my life with transiting Jupiter conjunct my
> natal (Capricorn) Venus. I expected this to be the time of my life! If
> this is the best I can get under such a positive transit, I don't know
> what to do with my life.
> =
> The love of my life has just left me for another, and my home will soon=
be
> restored, and I will be forced to life in a tiny part of another apartm=
ent
> with a terrible noise from the restoration behind a paperthin wall. And=
I
> am self-emplyed, and need to be able to run my own (newly started)
> business at home under these conditions. What should I learn from this
> turmoil (i.e. my life)?
> =
> Of course the astrologers among you immediately thinks: "she must have =
a
> major contradicting transit". But noops - I don't. And I do not have on=
e
> single natal planet in the present critical first degrees of any sign.
> =
> Has Jupiter changed its character lately?! Or have I ignored some other=
> aspect;-) of astrology (progressions, harmonics, midpoints...)? My
> experience so far is they normally are very much in accord with each
> other, so it is almost unnecessary to examine them all.
> =
> Anybody else with similar experiences? Or with a deeper experience from=
> Jupiter transits?
> =
> Eva
> eva....@wineasy.se
Eva,
Jupiter does not necessarily make fun transits through your houses. In
fact, more divorces occur with Jupiter transiting the 7th house than
when Saturn transits the 7th house. Jupiter usually makes you aware of
the state of things which relate to the house it's transiting. If things
are in order, it can be a positive, illuminating experience, if not it
can seem like a very negative, learning experience. =
Also, with respect to the love of your life leaving, how is HIS chart
being influenced? Sounds like a major transit could be at the root of
his actions, and not attributed soley to Jupiter transiting your natal
venus. In fact, I would bet that he has a close aspect (or aspects) to
your natal venus which is also being influenced by the Jupiter transit.
Maybe his Mars or Uranus eh? Hang in there!
Traci
Gilda_Pi...@vos.stratus.com
Jupiter does not necessarily make fun transits through your houses. In
>fact, more divorces occur with Jupiter transiting the 7th house than
>when Saturn transits the 7th house. Jupiter usually makes you aware of
>the state of things which relate to the house it's transiting. If things
>are in order, it can be a positive, illuminating experience, if not it
>can seem like a very negative, learning experience. =
>
>
>Also, with respect to the love of your life leaving, how is HIS chart
>being influenced? Sounds like a major transit could be at the root of
>his actions, and not attributed soley to Jupiter transiting your natal
>venus. In fact, I would bet that he has a close aspect (or aspects) to
>your natal venus which is also being influenced by the Jupiter transit.
>Maybe his Mars or Uranus eh? Hang in there!
>
>Traci
------------------------
This is so true.....I'm going to court tomorrow morning for my divorce
Jupiter just finished going over my 7th house....I hope things will get
better as it goes over my aquarius 8th house!!!!
Kevin Burk
Eva Ström wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> How is it possible that Jupiter transits can be so terrible? I am going
> natal (Capricorn) Venus. I expected this to be the time of my life! If
> this is the best I can get under such a positive transit, I don't know
> what to do with my life.
>
>
> Has Jupiter changed its character lately?! Or have I ignored some other
> experience so far is they normally are very much in accord with each
> other, so it is almost unnecessary to examine them all.
>
> Jupiter transits?
>
> Eva
> eva....@wineasy.se
Eva,
I'll just briefly recap what others have pointed out, before adding my
perspective as well.
Jupiter is about expansion and exaggeration and growth, and Jupiter is
not necessarily always "good". Jupiter just makes things bigger, and
that can be your bank account just as often as it can be your debts.
What has not been mentioned yet is that this is a conjunction - you are
at the BEGINNING of the cycle, not the culmination of it. You're
concerned about the success of your business? Jupiter conjunct Venus in
Capricorn certainly is a business and money related cycle, but again,
you're at the start of it. Set your intentions, let things flow,
Jupiter may be expanding things for you, and just like the renovations
to your house, which will ultimately be a "good" thing, something that
you can enjoy, the process of the renovation, the process of Jupiter
expanding things, well, it can break down walls, and stir up an awful
lot of dust and make a lot of noise while it's working on it.
This is the beginning of a 12 year cycle for you. You will see the most
obvious success and progress six years from now when Jupiter in Cancer
(and the sign of its exaltation) opposes Venus in Capricorn.
One final thing: Jupiter in Capricorn is in the sign of its fall, and is
therefore operating on the physical level at this time. And Capricorn
in and of itself is not a sign that is particularly known for it's
easy-going nature and quick results. Capricorn is all about testing
your resolve, and working towards your goals over an extended period of
time. Capricorn is about achievement, certainly, but it's not an
overnight process.
Peace,
Kevin
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Hi all,
>
> How is it possible that Jupiter transits can be so terrible? I am going
> through the worst time of my life with transiting Jupiter conjunct my
> natal (Capricorn) Venus. I expected this to be the time of my life! If
> this is the best I can get under such a positive transit, I don't know
> what to do with my life.
>
> restored, and I will be forced to life in a tiny part of another apartment
> with a terrible noise from the restoration behind a paperthin wall. And I
> am self-emplyed, and need to be able to run my own (newly started)
> business at home under these conditions. What should I learn from this
> turmoil (i.e. my life)?
>
> major contradicting transit". But noops - I don't. And I do not have one
> single natal planet in the present critical first degrees of any sign.
>
> aspect;-) of astrology (progressions, harmonics, midpoints...)? My
> experience so far is they normally are very much in accord with each
> other, so it is almost unnecessary to examine them all.
>
> Anybody else with similar experiences? Or with a deeper experience from
> Jupiter transits?
>
> Eva
> eva....@wineasy.se
Perhaps a blessing in disguise? Things happen for a reason and we're
not always happy with having to make changes, so it may not look
promising initially but who knows what new doors may open.
G1
Jules wrote:
>
> Hey that's right!! Last Jan 3rd started my JUPITER RETURN! My first
> since I've gotten into astrology so I was looking foward to it like
> crazy. And you know what, this year has sucked out loud, more than any
> other years I can remember. Of course, I managed to have a few financial
> windfalls, perhaps Jup was responsible, but every other aspect of my
> life just totally bit, and I mean hard. I'm looking foward to some
> Saturn transits, maybe all the astrology books I read had it backwards!
> Aww well, basic transit paperback astrology...
Oh - well. Like so many others I need to say....
Jupiter is NOT the jolly old elf! Jupiter expands. Expansion is just
that. Expansion. Look into the areas that have expanded. Gotten
bigger. More important to you. Exagerated. (Is that spelled right?)
Jupiter emphasizes.
That said - Jupiter helps to undo or overcome or counteract Saturn.
Most folk view Saturn as the great malefic. It addresses the part that
we don't want to see. Or - our great licunae - the unseen. The
personal fear. (I love Saturn - the bastard - because each encounter
brings me closer to integration. Hard as they are.)
So. Maybe, maybe Saturn has presented a situation - Tough times -- now
Jupiter comes along and says "well, hell - I can deal with that! Let's
just take a look at that."
(Jung has it that the shadow must be dealt with.) Perhaps your Jupiter
is forcing a look-see at that shadow?
Embrace your shadow. Maybe that's what your Jupiter transit is asking
you to do? Inspect - then make friends with your darker (ie; more
scary) side.
Personally -- My Jupiter transits FORCE me to make friends with those
parts of myself that I reject - am frightened of. (But these are
obviously rantings from a deranged mind.)
G1
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"I saw a shot-down angel in the park.
His marbled wings beating the light of day."
Still looking for that author.
Jules
collective shadow
This is not what I wanted to hear; Jupiter hits my descendent next week.
Details, please? Are you divorcing because of Jupiterian problems, or
because you decided you deserved something better out of life than what
you were getting? I.e., was the hubby drinking and gambling and chatting
up the ladies throughout Jupiter's stay in your 7th; or was it more that
you developed higher aspirations for yourself, making things that had
always been present seem intolerable?
Personally, I haven't got much good to say about Jupiter's transit of my
6th. I had ridiculously poor immunity, was unemployed and terrified to
look for work, and lost a lot of weight. Feh. At least when Saturn was
there I got something done. Saturn's in my 9th now; I'm having fun
getting a formal education, and have done a lot of travelling in
the last year. Saturn only bugs me when he gets too close to the
midheaven-Chiron conjunction.
Jupiter over my Venus coincided with my getting involved in a disastrous
liaison with someone who had Jupiter conjunct his Sun. And was this a
wise, prosperous fellow? No. Charming, philandering, unscrupulous,
and full of bullshit. Give me trines from Saturn any day.
Layo
Higherpath
I guess I have to add my two cents on this one . . .today I have
transiting Jupiter exactly conjunct my natal Sun (in house 7) which
traditionally has been a positive thing. Yesterday, I received a check in
the mail for 200.00 that I wasn't expecting--that's positive! Someone
approached me several days ago to go into business with them, which would
correspond with the 7th house transit (partnerships, relationships).
Also, though, I have that lovely transiting Saturn conjunct natal Mars
which has been a real bothersome transit for months; my car got hit a
couple of times (when the transit was exact each time). Thank goodness
that's on its way out!
My point being that we need to make sure that we look at ALL the transits
before we get our hopes up about this Jupiter transit!
Kathy
pete stapleton
Jules <Ju...@hamptons.com> wrote:
Pete Stapleton comments; Jules, transit astrology works. However,
reading your post suggests you are not working with "transit"
astrology.
You speak of a "JUPITER RETURN." A classic definition of a Jupter
Retun would be when the transitting Jupiter returns to it's natal
Ecliptic longitude. Which should take place about ever twelves years
of your life since Jupiter transits the Great Circle of the Ecliptic
appoxmatly evey twelve years.
Note that planetary returns have very little substance to back the
belief they exist. This is one of the great problems of Solar and
Lunar returns. They work great with hindsight - but so far no one
has ever been able to predict using them. Or maybe another way to say
that Solar Returns don't work is that no one has ever used them to
predict before the fact.
I would be happy to lean something different in this area. I spent
the first several years of astrological research trying to prove solar
& lunar returns worked. Finally, it came to the point where I
couldn't use them in my practice because they didn't work "every"
time. Since this put them in the realm of speculation - and my
clients weren't paying me to speculate - I had to drop the entire
concept.
Congrats on you interest into astrology. It is true that the only way
to learn astrology is to do it. Reading books on the subject just
doesn't cut it - you have to test everything for yourself. And even
then it may not be right - so many people will confuse psychic
reception for an astrologcal truth. So it is important that you
verifiy everything you have within your astrology with at least three
other people before you accept is a truth to live by.
Off soap box, Regards, Pete
Seed of Life Research
you say that you would like to learn something different in this area.
Go back to article #31237, When Unexpected Things Occur. There is a
new perspective for you. Eastern Medicine has taught me a profound
way to view how energy moves our attitudes and experiences. The first
person who wrote above should find out if they have a blockage in
their Fixed-water or Cardinal-fire energy or maybe their Mutable-earth
or Cardinal-air energy. They have an imbalance around their Mutable-
fire (Jupiter) energy.
Ed Lambert
Barbara Grant
Doesn't some of the effect of a transit depend on how the planets
involved were configured in the natal chart? For example, if Jupiter and
Venus were square at birth, and Jupiter by transit conjuncted Venus,
would the effect be different from a conjunction in a chart where Jupiter
trined Venus at birth?
--Barbara
LEOCAPRI
I've never noticed the transit of a planet to its own natal position (a
"return") or in aspect to it, to be particularly meaningful. I'm just
having a Jupiter transit of my ascendant, which has brought some very good
stuff, but also an upset tummy (due to years of Jupiterian overindulgence)
and the consequent LOSS of weight. Interesting in that Jupiter is
associated with the gain of weight, especially with the ascendant, and a
demonstration of the pitfalls of interpretation.
LC
syl...@ix.netcom.com
I was wondering if transiting Ceres might have something to do with
your current experience with loss instead of gain??What's happening
w/Ceres in your chart??
Thomas Seers
pete stapleton wrote:
>
> leoc...@aol.com (LEOCAPRI) wrote:
>
> >I've never noticed the transit of a planet to its own natal position (a
> >"return") or in aspect to it, to be particularly meaningful. I'm just
> >having a Jupiter transit of my ascendant, which has brought some very good
> >stuff, but also an upset tummy (due to years of Jupiterian overindulgence)
> >and the consequent LOSS of weight. Interesting in that Jupiter is
> >associated with the gain of weight, especially with the ascendant, and a
> >demonstration of the pitfalls of interpretation.
> >LC
>
> skeptics of astrology is by the use of the transit of mars to the
> nalal moon.
>
> What takes place under this configuration is mania which translates to
> fast driving and a high libido - with running into a few door jambs
> thrown in. The skeptic normally isn't aware of the martian (manic)
> fluctuations of his personality and is amazed that anyone would be
> able to predict such personal mood swings. Creates a crack in the
> "scientific" bubble that defines their world. And it is true that if
> you can get someone thinking for themselves, sooner or later they
> arrive at the right answer.
>
> I would be interested if you experience similiar reactions from a mars
> transit conjunct your moon.
>
> Regards, Pete
Just watch, on Thursday and Friday and you see this one demonstrate a
Moon/Mars square (GRIN). Better then reading a book, the reeal thinnng!
Just Wolfing, Thomas
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pete stapleton
Seed of Life Research <eter...@infomagic.com> wrote:
>pet...@c-zone.net (pete stapleton) writes: > Jules <Ju...@hamptons.com> wrote:
>> I would be happy to lean something different in this area. I spent
>> the first several years of astrological research trying to prove solar
>> & lunar returns worked. Finally, it came to the point where I
>> couldn't use them in my practice because they didn't work "every"
>> time. Since this put them in the realm of speculation - and my
>> clients weren't paying me to speculate - I had to drop the entire
>> concept.
>> Off soap box, Regards, Pete
>Pete,
>you say that you would like to learn something different in this area.
>Go back to article #31237, When Unexpected Things Occur. There is a
>new perspective for you. Eastern Medicine has taught me a profound
>way to view how energy moves our attitudes and experiences. The first
>person who wrote above should find out if they have a blockage in
>their Fixed-water or Cardinal-fire energy or maybe their Mutable-earth
>or Cardinal-air energy. They have an imbalance around their Mutable-
>fire (Jupiter) energy. >Ed Lambert
Pete Stapleton comments: Ed Lambert, I'm certain the article #31237
you reference is what you say. I don't have any idea how I would go
back to it - however if you feel it will give me a "new perspective"
I appreciate your interest. So in order to save us both some time -
would you please point out here on the board how this "new
perspective" would come about so we all can profit from and be able
to understand your comment.
I too feel a study of Eastern medicine gives an understanding of
ourselves not found within Western education. The existence of the 18
pulses and so called "acupunture" meridians are easily proven to
anyone who takes the time to look. I don't use the pulses in my
practice for obvious reasons (one has to touch) - but it is easy to
get the client to report the condition of his/her major meridians over
the phone.
My second teacher in this area taught me how to flush out the
meridian blockages when in phone contact- a method that works well in
relieving immediate pain. If you haven't already, I suggest you
develop your ability to do this since most of the time it completly
resolves the problem.
As far as the earth, air, fire, water and wood diagnostic tools, again
my teaching suggests one must be present with the client before one
decides upon the source of the problem - but then I only spent two
years with my first teacher - a 90 year old chinese doctor who spoke
no english. Even at that age he was still going strong. His practice
was based upon the client paying him when he/she was healthy -
something we should try to incorporate in Western mediicine. So even
though all the teaching was a kind of a hands on thing - it is
certainly possible there are areas I have missed that you could help
enlighten.
So please post the part of your article you feel will "give me a new
perspective" as I am always interested in learning more about my world
and astrology.
regards, Pete
ma...@hip.com
Kevin Burk <kb...@astro-horoscopes.com> wrote:
>Eva Ström wrote:
>> How is it possible that Jupiter transits can be so terrible?
>Jupiter is about expansion and exaggeration and growth, and Jupiter is
>not necessarily always "good". Jupiter just makes things bigger, and
>that can be your bank account just as often as it can be your debts.
Hi :)
FW: I've seen one other post from someone using the nick 'maya', but
not since then, so I might _not_ have to change my nick to avoid
confusion. I'm the Sag one, smarting lately from the slagging off
poor Jupiter's been getting lately. :) I've read the most amazingly
contrary character analyses to my rather intimate contact with the
sign, though (replay ON: sun is just one of ten planets sure enough)
However I must agree with posted opinions that Jupiter, as planetary
influence, is about the exaggeration of both good OR bad
characterizations and aspects it triggers within the chart at the
time. Quite as willing to enhance as exacerbate . An indiscriminate
fellow it seems - or is impartial the word? Like justice? <g>
It's not quite as thrilling as the benefic tag it's been enjoying,
So long...
Harry Leroy
>Hi all,
>
(snip for bandwidth)>
>Eva
>eva....@wineasy.se
>
Here I am, Jupiter transiting in direct opposition to natal Jupiter
conjunct natal Uranus, promising myself that if things don't change this
year, I'll quit working as an astrologer - I'll go on national welfare or
how do you call it; I am sick and tired of being sick and tired (as they
say) because I never can pay my bills. So, talking to a client about
"letting go", having faith in the course of events etc., I pronounce the
words "so if there are any gods or energy-fields with some cosmic
intelligence, and it wants me to continue this work (which I love dearly)
it'll have to do something about it..."
At the end of the consultation, the client takes her chequebook out and
asks "Is it allright with you if I pay you twice the amount you ask ?"
Now, that wasn't my intention of talking about financial deprivation, that
she would feel sorry or something. No, she clearly said she appreciated so
much what information and insight I had given her, that she gladly wanted
to spend that money - she sure had enough of it, I realised later on.
I mean, it has happened before that clients pay more than the official fee,
let's say every now and then someone pays 10 to 20 percent in surplus. This
time my fee was doubled !
The same day I received a check for what amounts to one fifth of my monthly
income (which is very poor judged by normal standards, this income of mine,
so this amount really means big money to me!) just as a token of
appreciation for the courses she has attended.
At the same time, I am in the middle of a process where I am revisioning my
worth and finances and options to the future.
Of course, this transit hasn't finished yet, but it started rather
nicely...
:-)
Which - in my understanding of transits - shows me I am (at last) on the
right track of development (finally). I don't consider a transit of Jupiter
to be some gift you get from the heavens, nor do I consider a transit from
Pluto to be a cosmic black hole that lures you into fathomless crisis
(though it sure can FEEL that way ;-). As I see it, transits show you
through the input of circumstances what is happening within, what direction
your growth is going in, or what you should try and mind/adjust in order to
achieve more harmony, luck, happiness, ...
Be (gay and) merry !
Herman
Seed of Life Research
leoc...@aol.com (LEOCAPRI) writes: > I've never noticed the transit of a planet to its own natal position (a
> "return") or in aspect to it, to be particularly meaningful. I'm just
> having a Jupiter transit of my ascendant, which has brought some very good
> stuff, but also an upset tummy (due to years of Jupiterian overindulgence)
> and the consequent LOSS of weight. Interesting in that Jupiter is
> associated with the gain of weight, especially with the ascendant, and a
> demonstration of the pitfalls of interpretation.
>
> LC
The day Jupiter returned in my chart, I started to study spanish. This
led to years of traveling and learning many things.
In the spherical flow,
http://www.infomagic.com/~eternalb/soccer.htm#quikview
Jupiter leads to the Earth, which is the Stomach flow in Eastern
Medicine. If you have a blockage in your stomach flow, the excess
energy in your Jupiter returning would aggravate that. A blockage
in the stomach flow would lead to weight loss. Look for an wholistic
doctor or acupuncturist in your area who can settle your stomach.
This would free up your Jupiter experience.
And also, a Sagittarius ascendant may heighten ones Jupiter energy
to the point that the stomach flow has an excess. This could
lead to weight gain.
Ed Lambert, Seed of Life researcher
Seed of Life Research
> Seed of Life Research <eter...@infomagic.com> wrote:
>
> >Pete,
> >you say that you would like to learn something different in this area.
> >Go back to article #31237, When Unexpected Things Occur. There is a
> >new perspective for you. Eastern Medicine has taught me a profound
> >way to view how energy moves our attitudes and experiences. The first
> >person who wrote above should find out if they have a blockage in
> >their Fixed-water or Cardinal-fire energy or maybe their Mutable-earth
> >or Cardinal-air energy. They have an imbalance around their Mutable-
> >fire (Jupiter) energy. >Ed Lambert
>
> Pete Stapleton comments: Ed Lambert,
You are right. One does need to be present to read the pulses or
have someone there who can. But then over the phone you can learn much
of what is going on personally with the person. That is the key. Two
people born at the same time are still different. We have to find out
how. That is where we read pulses or ask questions. Trying to
predict someones future from a natal chart without studying the person
is like a medical doctor trying to make a diagnosis from a
two dimensional photograph of that person. If you telepathically
connect with the person, that will work too.
The spherical pattern we study helps to put together what someone is
saying. Are they talking about rage, denial, liver problems, fear,
nervous system, headaches, stiffness, obsessions, alienation,
weight loss, nightmares, anything. From these descriptions we can see
the pattern for the state of their energy meridians without having to
read the pulses. Then the more questions we ask we can confirm
what we are seeing or change it. That is the process of diagnosis.
Then the spherical pattern will show us where a blockage is or where
the strengths are. Some patterns are not problems but patterns for
survival. They seem like problems because the energy seems to be stuck
in a certain area of the sphere. but that pattern is developed to
overcome an obstacle in their life. That's when you need to know more
about the person.
An example, I was doing a pulse reading clinic in a store. Four
separate people showed the same pattern over an hour. I thought that
was strange. Their pulses focused in on Mutable-air, Cardinal-water,
Mutable-water, Fixed-water, Fixed-air and Cardinal-fire. This is a
cleansing pattern, except for the Cardinal-fire. Was this a problem
pattern? No. As it turned out all four people were friends and they
had overdone a steam room sauna two nights earlier. The heat
made an excess in Cardinal-fire which caused Mutable-air to energize
in order to compensate. That set off a pattern of releasing the heat
and cleansing the body of impurities through some air and water flows.
Very natural and seen plainly on the spherical design.
The spherical design which was constructed totally from astrological
symbolism can be seen at:
http://www.infomagic.com/~eternalb
Mark Watson
pet...@c-zone.net (pete stapleton) wrote:
>>Seed of Life Research <eter...@infomagic.com> wrote:
>>
>>>pet...@c-zone.net (pete stapleton) writes: > Jules <Ju...@hamptons.com> wrote:
>>
>(snip)
i have been following this thread with great interest. it is teaching me
quite a lot, which is very enjoyable. unfortunately i have not learned
enough yet to know what is going in my chart. my reason for this is to
find a possible explanation for my moods, etc, etc, as well as perhaps another
place that i could draw stregnth from when i needed it most.
could someone please look at my chart and perhaps explain to me what is going
on? the past several years have been very stressful and challenging, but
i had felt things were beginning to change for the better. lately, tho'
i'm not so sure.
i was born in louisville, ky on 3-11-56 at 2:19 a.m., grew up in southern ohio
and have lived in clearwater florida for 11 years now. my husband had
not created much of the stress, but now it seems he's working overtime,
with the goal being to drive me completely nuts! if it would help explain
things, he was born in cincinnati at 11pm on 12-14-53.
i would be very grateful for guidance or suggestions to explain all the
turmoil and how to ride it out to a calmer, saner place.
thanks, shelia
Seed of Life Research
supporting Jupiter area. You have quincuxes (Pluto aspect). Transits
to Pluto and Jupiter. What this means is that your Fixed-water is
seeking a stronger connection to your Mutable-fire. Basically,
you are in love and want to have fun. Fixed-water is our storehouse
of harmony and things we hold meaningful. When we feel the
strength of things we love in our lives, we feel free to share
our love.
Pluto to Jupiter is the act of Sex. Pluto holds people together then
Jupiter transfers their essences to each other.
It seems in your case that Pluto is being blocked. Your connection
is being inhibited. Eventhough Jupiter is wanting to exchange
essences. Suggestion: Go dancing.
Ed Lambert
primado...@gmail.com
> Hi all,
>
> through the worst time of my life with transiting Jupiter conjunct my
> natal (Capricorn) Venus. I expected this to be the time of my life! If
> this is the best I can get under such a positive transit, I don't know
> what to do with my life.
>
> The love of my life has just left me for another, and my home will soon be
> restored, and I will be forced to life in a tiny part of another apartment
> with a terrible noise from the restoration behind a paperthin wall. And I
> am self-emplyed, and need to be able to run my own (newly started)
> business at home under these conditions. What should I learn from this
> turmoil (i.e. my life)?
>
> Of course the astrologers among you immediately thinks: "she must have a
> major contradicting transit". But noops - I don't. And I do not have one
> single natal planet in the present critical first degrees of any sign.
>
> Has Jupiter changed its character lately?! Or have I ignored some other
> aspect;-) of astrology (progressions, harmonics, midpoints...)? My
> experience so far is they normally are very much in accord with each
> other, so it is almost unnecessary to examine them all.
>
> Anybody else with similar experiences? Or with a deeper experience from
> Jupiter transits?
>
> Eva
> eva....@wineasy.se
I just found myself over-optimistic from time to time. I would say that astrologers sometimes overrate and overstate the transit of Jupiter.
localpowe...@gmail.com
Too bad the OP never disclosed her birth chart. I bet she had a progression going on which was messing things up.
blueranb...@gmail.com
merovin...@gmail.com
> She must have had a weak sun on on a birth chart. For those people jupiter does not make huge things but many it does but as I said if your natal chart is weak all transits ll be horrible. To the lucky ones also saturn brings a lots of money and amazing things. It is really about your natal chart.
In response to others, I received an unexpected windfall on my Jupiter return in the 4th house. Natal Jupiter is in Capricorn conjunct Neptune and IC, square ASC, and sextile Pluto.
I'm hoping Jupiter conjunct my Venus in the 4th house in Capricorn trine ASC and quincunx MC will give me a boost. Saturn conjuncts my Venus later in the year.
Iris Bloom
Добромира Иванова
As for the ill effects of seemingly good Jupiter transits, I'm investigating the topic and all examples are welcome.