about a Yod in my solar return
Jean-F Tellier
This year my solar return shows the following thing:
Neptune (12th house, Aquarius) is the apex of a Yod including
Saturn (5th house, Cancer) and
Venus (con. Sun+ Jupiter, 7th house, Virgo).
Until today in this new year, I have encountered Neptune thru people
with alcohol & drug habit as well as with mystical delirium
syndrome…I have been asked to teach yoga, I have been wishing to
produce some music. My contacts seem to be coming and going
unexpectedly, leaving me with more hopes or delusions but with nothing
concrete to start from or old on to.
It could have only been me expecting such encounters or also me being
more perceptive in that matter. But it still gets me wonder about the
year to come.
I have Neptune in the 12th house, near my rising, in my birth chart. I
have almost always stayed away from intoxicant in my life. On the
other hand, I have been used and conned by people and gurus. Also I
have this innate daydreaming tendency and, when I am down, it is mixed
with horizontal stagnation.
If you have experiences or comments to share about this Yod,
they’d be greatly appreciated.
J-F
Michael Rideout
Jean-F Tellier (jfte...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> This year my solar return shows the following thing:
> Neptune (12th house, Aquarius) is the apex of a Yod including
> Saturn (5th house, Cancer) and
> Venus (con. Sun+ Jupiter, 7th house, Virgo).
>
> Until today in this new year, I have encountered Neptune thru people
> with alcohol & drug habit as well as with mystical delirium
> syndrome&I have been asked to teach yoga, I have been wishing to
> produce some music. My contacts seem to be coming and going
> unexpectedly, leaving me with more hopes or delusions but with nothing
> concrete to start from or old on to.
>
> It could have only been me expecting such encounters or also me being
> more perceptive in that matter. But it still gets me wonder about the
> year to come.
>
> I have Neptune in the 12th house, near my rising, in my birth chart. I
> have almost always stayed away from intoxicant in my life. On the
> other hand, I have been used and conned by people and gurus. Also I
> have this innate daydreaming tendency and, when I am down, it is mixed
> with horizontal stagnation.
>
> If you have experiences or comments to share about this Yod,
> they_d be greatly appreciated.
>
> J-F
I'm sorry no one responded to your post sooner.
I have only an approximate birth chart on file for you, and I don't know how
close it is to your real chart, but it shows Neptune about only 3 degrees from
the Ascendant. If that's the case with your real chart, then I'd say your
Neptune is in the 1st House as well as in the 12th House. (My chart has the
Sun about only 4 degrees from the Descendant, so I have a similar type of
situation-- my Sun is in the 7th House *and* in the 6th House. I find that
both house positions are meaningful to me.) In any case, Neptune conjunct the
Ascendant does sound like it could contribute to an attraction to gurus and
daydreams. But being used and conned by people might also be connected with
the Moon opposite Jupiter, which could contribute to an excessively generous
and trusting or open nature.
It's interesting that your Solar return has a few similarities to your natal
chart-- Neptune in the 12th House, Pluto in the 10th House conjunct the
Midheaven, Mars in the 1st House, and Saturn in the 5th House. This could
suggest that whatever those natal house positions mean to you will be
emphasized in your life this year. Of these positions, Pluto and Mars seem
especially pertinent, due to the fact that transiting Pluto was so closely
conjoined with your natal Mars at your Solar return. Pluto has been transiting
your 1st House for several years now, and you may have gotten a bit used to it,
but Pluto conjunct Mars might stir things up for you. How is your energy level
this year? Have you been forced to resurrect and confront any personal
feelings of anger or antagonism, or to deal with intense passions or lusts? If
so, you may find that it's time for you to finally transform those feelings.
Also, transformations in your personality may have an impact on your career or
social identity.
As for the Yod, every Yod has three midpoint contacts-- in this case, Neptune
opposite Venus|Saturn, Venus sesquisquare Saturn|Neptune, and Saturn
sesquisquare Venus|Neptune. The midpoint contact with the smallest orb is
Saturn sesquisquare Venus|Neptune. With Saturn in the 5th House of romance,
Venus in the 7th House of partners, and Neptune in Aquarius the sign of
friends-- plus Venus being the planet of love-- the Yod might manifest as some
sort of confusion or disappointment in your interpersonal relationships,
perhaps (for example) with regard to telling when other people want to be "just
friends" or "have a little romance." Saturn in the 5th House is the focal
planet-- the one making the closest midpoint contact, which is *not*
necessarily the apex planet-- so that might suggest that the focus is on
maintaining control (or "rigidity," or perhaps "propriety") in the area of
romance.
On another level, the Yod could refer to artistic or creative endeavors,
possibly musical in nature (Saturn in the 5th House of creativity, Venus the
planet of art and harmony, and Neptune the planet of vibrations?). Venus
harmoniously aspecting Saturn can symbolize art where there is an emphasis on
structure or form, or it can symbolize the mathematics of musical harmony, or
the proportions of things that appear harmonious or well-balanced together.
In short, I can see the connections between the things you've been experiencing
this year and your Solar return chart.
Michael Rideout
Rose
I have been meaning to post something about my natal yod. I can't
QUITE make sense of it, but I thought others might see a general
interpretation in it. But I have also been able to relate this to
Black Moon Lilith (see Neptune Transit and Lilith threads).
In case: my yod is Pl(cj U) in Virgo (10) sextile Moon in Cancer
(9)
both quinqunx Mercury in Aq in (3/4).
I realized that long ago, my mother made a conscious decision never to
listen to the feelings behind what a person said, ONLY the literal
words. She automatically "cleans out" emotion from all communication.
(Pl sextile Moon?) and this is the part of her that I connected to =
her emotional garbage. But, on a conscious level, maybe I think I am
connecting to what she offers - plain, rational thought, not offered
parentally, but as *ideas* (as she would often say) (Merc in aq, which
she is an aquarius too). Hmm... so I wonder if I subconsciously P
clean all emotion from what people say, but then I have to put it
somewhere else - the thinking part of my brain, which doesn't handle
it so well...
Like somehow the 2 planets work together to make the 3rd, but it's
actually a disfunctional set up (because of the signs). Like I don't
know, what if the desire for an exacting partner goes well with trying
to find support to produce an artistic endeavor but Neptune ends up
having to handle these functions from 12 aq so there ends up being an
unconcious projection of disorganization or a lack of goals or maybe
the project ends up seeming like it should be a group endeavor rather
than solo. Or it should reach a broader audience. Or a smaller one.
Or what if insecurity about the project is limiting the desire or
enhancing a perfectionistic desire for a partner but what's actually
happening is that the person is sending out a unconscious broadcast
for "participants" (aq) rather than supporters.
I don't know. I'm just making stuff up. But I feel like there's some
kind of interpretation that could be made out of what I realized about
my yod. (But maybe it only applies to me, since Pluto's in the mix.)
Rose