New at Synastry - Question about Septile
shalozby
about the 7th and 9th harmonic, particularly in how they relate in
romantic synastry.
One comparison I've come across is a couple who's suns are septile to
one another. Because I'm still trying to understand the nature of
the 7th, I'm not sure what to actually think of this aspect.
The female's sun is in sag, 9th house, the male's is in libra, 1st
house. If anyone could give me some insight, I'd really appreciate
it.
Michael Rideout
The septile is said to have a "fated" quality to it, or a mystical quality, so
the couple may feel as though they were "meant" to be together. But a single
septile between the two Suns might not be very significant unless it's
connected to other 7th-Harmonic aspects, either in the individual charts, or
between the two charts.
Michael Rideout
shalozby
The charts by themselves, if this sounds correct, are "septile-heavy"
as individuals, and septile and novile-heavy together - they also have
a bi-septile between their moons, and most of his inner planets are bi
or triseptile to her moon. Lots of 9th harmonic action particularly
with his sun and her planets as well. Those I am a bit more able to
figure out the synastry. I am still working on a prognosis for the
relationship as a whole, but understanding the relationship between
the suns is helping me put this all together. Thank you for your
help.
Michael Rideout
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> > shalozby (mir...@girl4.com) wrote:
> >
> > > I've been studying synastry for about a month now, and am very curious
> > > about the 7th and 9th harmonic, particularly in how they relate in
> > > romantic synastry.
> > >
> > > One comparison I've come across is a couple who's suns are septile to
> > > one another.
[...]
> >
> > The septile is said to have a "fated" quality to it, or a mystical quality,
so
> > the couple may feel as though they were "meant" to be together. But a
single
> > septile between the two Suns might not be very significant unless it's
> > connected to other 7th-Harmonic aspects, either in the individual charts,
or
> > between the two charts.
> >
> > Michael Rideout
>
>
> The charts by themselves, if this sounds correct, are "septile-heavy"
> as individuals, and septile and novile-heavy together - they also have
> a bi-septile between their moons, and most of his inner planets are bi
> or triseptile to her moon. Lots of 9th harmonic action particularly
> with his sun and her planets as well. Those I am a bit more able to
> figure out the synastry. I am still working on a prognosis for the
> relationship as a whole, but understanding the relationship between
> the suns is helping me put this all together. Thank you for your
> help.
Yes, "septile-heavy" sounds like as good a term as any! If there is a lot of
septile activity in and between the two charts, then it's definitely worth
looking into. Astrologer Linda Reid, who lives in Tasmania (? I think), once
posted an article she'd written to the old "Festival" astrology list, and she
had a lot of interesting comments about the different harmonics in synastry. I
should have a copy of it on one of my other computers, and if I can find it,
I'll write to her and see if she would mind me sending you a copy of it.
I can't claim to have a lot of experience with synastry, but I've heard that a
person whose chart resonates strongly to a particular harmonic will tend to
attract other people whose charts make aspects of that same harmonic to the
native's chart. This is one of the things that Linda Reid mentioned in her
article. My lack of experience with a large number of synastry cases means
that I can neither confirm nor refute this idea, but I can easily believe that
it's true. So, if both charts are "septile-heavy" by themselves, and if the
charts form septiles (and multiples) to each other, it stands to reason that
the two individuals will be attracted to each other-- for better or for worse.
Michael Rideout
"It stands to reason?!? Why does it stand to reason? Why doesn't it lie down
to reason? It's much easier to reason lying down!"
-- Tom Baker, as Doctor Who
Astrology Cycles
'turned on'. At risk of being simplistic, the 7th harmonic is one of the
'right-brain', and as such has associations with imagery/imagination. The
quality of a septile can be impulsive and intuitive, and somewhat romantic.
Two Sun's in septile to one another suggests that the basis of their
relationship is a romantic one that moves them emotionally and
inspirationally. As the Sun is a symbol of a person's sense of identity and
their drive to self-actualise, a septile could indicate that who they are to
one another uplifts them in such a way that their sense of themselves is
strengthened, and their drives to self-actualise are similarly affirmed.
Hope this helps provide some starting points.
Ian
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Christine Lydon
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>"shalozby" <mir...@girl4.com> wrote in message
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>> I've been studying synastry for about a month now, and am very curious
>> about the 7th and 9th harmonic, particularly in how they relate in
>> romantic synastry.
>The septile is an aspect of inspiration, fantasy, and being emotionally
>'turned on'. At risk of being simplistic, the 7th harmonic is one of the
>'right-brain', and as such has associations with imagery/imagination. The
>quality of a septile can be impulsive and intuitive, and somewhat romantic.
>Two Sun's in septile to one another suggests that the basis of their
>relationship is a romantic one that moves them emotionally and
>inspirationally. As the Sun is a symbol of a person's sense of identity and
>their drive to self-actualise, a septile could indicate that who they are to
>one another uplifts them in such a way that their sense of themselves is
>strengthened, and their drives to self-actualise are similarly affirmed.
>
>Hope this helps provide some starting points.
>
>Ian
I have been looking at my chart in relation to someone whom I am just
beginning to get involved with. For the past few months I thought we
had no connection between our Suns, because I am not used to using the
less well know aspects. Do we have Novile Suns i.e. a ninth of 360 =
40 degrees ? What would that mean ?
He is 22 April 1961, 4.10 am GMT, Southampton England, approx 50 deg
55 min North , 1 deg 30 min West.
Also, does anyone know of a couple who have had an enduring worthwhile
happy domestic relationship with their Moons square each other?
All comments gratefully recieved.
Christine Lydon
14 March 1967, approx 5.25am Surrey, England
22deg Aq rising
Remove NOJUNK from email address if you mail me.
Libralove
christine....@tesco.net wrote on 3/18/03 1:53 PM:
> Also, does anyone know of a couple who have had an enduring worthwhile
> happy domestic relationship with their Moons square each other?
Yes, it means constant day to day contact even though you may have different
emotional temperaments. It doesn't preclude getting along well.
Best -- LL
Astrology Cycles
"Christine Lydon" <christine....@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> I have been looking at my chart in relation to someone whom I am just
> beginning to get involved with. For the past few months I thought we
> had no connection between our Suns, because I am not used to using the
> less well know aspects. Do we have Novile Suns i.e. a ninth of 360 =
> 40 degrees ? What would that mean ?
According to my software your Sun's are at:
22 Pisces 56
1 Taurus 48
This gives a distance of 38 deg 52 mins. It depends what orb you use for a
novile, however, using harmonic orbs as set out in David Hamblin's book
('Harmonic Charts') the orb I use is 1 deg 20 mins. Using this orb,
anything from 38 deg 40 to 41 deg 20 is a novile. Your Sun's are within
this range, so I would say yes you do indeed have a novile between them.
I don't have much practical experience of noviles, so can't really comment
on the meaning as it is lived in human reality. However, it's said to be an
aspect of joy, like the enjoyment of a trine but kind of 'upgraded' or
refined to something more profound. It's a number of completion and
acceptance, a potential for fulfilment, happiness, and peace. In synastry
it could well suggest an understanding and knowledge that is linked to this
quality of being at peace with one another.
Hope this helps out a bit!
JAMES ARONIS
>>The septile is an aspect of inspiration, fantasy, and being emotionally
>>'turned on'. At risk of being simplistic, the 7th harmonic is one of the
>>'right-brain', and as such has associations with imagery/imagination. The
>>quality of a septile can be impulsive and intuitive, and somewhat romantic.
>>Two Sun's in septile to one another suggests that the basis of their
>>relationship is a romantic one that moves them emotionally and
>>inspirationally. As the Sun is a symbol of a person's sense of identity and
>>their drive to self-actualise, a septile could indicate that who they are to
>>one another uplifts them in such a way that their sense of themselves is
>>strengthened, and their drives to self-actualise are similarly affirmed.
>>
>>Hope this helps provide some starting points.
>>
>>Ian
>
> I have been looking at my chart in relation to someone whom I am just
> beginning to get involved with. For the past few months I thought we
> had no connection between our Suns, because I am not used to using the
> less well know aspects. Do we have Novile Suns i.e. a ninth of 360 =
> 40 degrees ? What would that mean ?
>
> He is 22 April 1961, 4.10 am GMT, Southampton England, approx 50 deg
> 55 min North , 1 deg 30 min West.
>
> Also, does anyone know of a couple who have had an enduring worthwhile
> happy domestic relationship with their Moons square each other?
Good question, and one more I'd like to add, does anyone know of any
successful long-term relationship with either of the native's suns or moons
square each other??
Christine Lydon
Thank you !!
and Thanks lots and lots to Libralove for your comment on square Moons
being OK too.
I am soooo happy now. :-)
Astrology Cycles
together if ever what is symbolised by your Moon's clash!
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Christine
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In Christine's case, the Suns are in signs/elements that are natural sextile
to each other, earth and water, which, imho, will suggest a tendancy of
temperaments towards a workable relationship. Water will soften and make the
Earth pliable, and Earth will provide the protective boundary of form for
water.
But what if the novile aspect were between those signs that are next to each
other with completely different attitudes and temperaments? One might not
find such natural ease flowing then.
I have only ever read one idea about the novile aspect; in a book by
Christine Hall referring, I must admit, to the effect of dreams and
reincarnation on everyday life, rather than the effect of synastry on
everyday life. She applied the 40 degrees aspect as having the same effect
as the 40 years and 40 days episodes mentioned in The Bible.......and we all
know what happened to Moses and J.C :-))
Regards,
Christine.
Astrology Cycles
> In Christine's case, the Suns are in signs/elements that are natural sextile
> to each other, earth and water, which, imho, will suggest a tendancy of
> temperaments towards a workable relationship. Water will soften and make the
> Earth pliable, and Earth will provide the protective boundary of form for
> water.
> But what if the novile aspect were between those signs that are next to each
> other with completely different attitudes and temperaments? One might not
> find such natural ease flowing then.
> I have only ever read one idea about the novile aspect; in a book by
> Christine Hall referring, I must admit, to the effect of dreams and
> reincarnation on everyday life, rather than the effect of synastry on
> everyday life. She applied the 40 degrees aspect as having the same effect
> as the 40 years and 40 days episodes mentioned in The Bible.......and we all
> know what happened to Moses and J.C :-))
>
> Regards,
> Christine.
>From a harmonics point of view, this is how I would look at
this........
Sign themes obviously always need to be worked into the
interpretation, however the harmonic is a mathematical 'music of the
spheres' resonance. In the example you gave, you are viewing signs
next to one another through the lens of the semi-sextile. This way of
looking at things stems from a long tradition of astrology that did
not delve into seventh, ninth, and other harmonics. A septile aspect
would be in signs that are traditionally thought of as naturally in
sextile to one another, but they are no more in sextile to one another
than they are in septile to one another. They are both, because
multiple resonances exist throughout the zodiac circle.
The astrological tradition that we have inherited didn't include these
aspects, and so solidified the idea that Aries is in a natural sextile
to Gemini, for instance, and from there the focus goes to what these
signs have in common. But Aries and Gemini can differ in their values
and views of life every bit as much as Aries and Cancer can. It's
just we're not traditionally taught that. In nature, air and water mix
every bit as easily as water and earth, but we humans have created
lots of divisions that we like to stay stuck in.
To put these aspects in mathematical terms, a novile is 3 x 3, i.e. a
multiplied trine, whereas a semi-sextile is 3 x 4, and therefore
combines the qualities of a square with a trine.
Signs next to one another are not necessarily antithetical - each sign
gives birth to the sign that follows it, so they always have much in
common. The novile represents the activation of this commonality,
rather than a semi-sextile which would represent the activation of a
need for adjustment and an overcoming of difference to reveal that
commonality.
Ian
Christine
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> this........
>
> Sign themes obviously always need to be worked into the
> interpretation, however the harmonic is a mathematical 'music of the
> spheres' resonance. In the example you gave, you are viewing signs
> next to one another through the lens of the semi-sextile.
I realise that harmonics is a totally different way of looking at the
application of astrology.
I 'think' I understand what you are saying, yet this would also imply that I
could be inclined to look at a semi-square through that pattern, if such an
aspect presented itself in following signs. Yet I hardly view and/or
experience my VE-46-SA in TA-GE and UR-46-MA in GE-CN as a semi-sextile
lens. It's definitely a square one :-)
This way of
> looking at things stems from a long tradition of astrology that did
> not delve into seventh, ninth, and other harmonics. A septile aspect
> would be in signs that are traditionally thought of as naturally in
> sextile to one another, but they are no more in sextile to one another
> than they are in septile to one another. They are both, because
> multiple resonances exist throughout the zodiac circle.
>
> The astrological tradition that we have inherited didn't include these
> aspects, and so solidified the idea that Aries is in a natural sextile
> to Gemini, for instance, and from there the focus goes to what these
> signs have in common. But Aries and Gemini can differ in their values
> and views of life every bit as much as Aries and Cancer can. It's
> just we're not traditionally taught that. In nature, air and water mix
> every bit as easily as water and earth, but we humans have created
> lots of divisions that we like to stay stuck in.
Are you referring to astrologers and their way of interpretting charts
through looking at nature? I'd have to plead guilty in that case, although I
am fully aware that e.g. air and water can create one h--- of a storm,
mentally confusing based on emotion, just as easily as stirring emotions
and/or understanding what causes them.
Maybe I am old-fashioned after all ( darn that Saturn return !) because I
don't think one can neglect to look at the traditional meaning behind
aspects. The theory of harmonics seems to 'clump' them altogether without
allowing for the individuality of sign involved between each part of an
aspect (if you understand what I mean).
>
> To put these aspects in mathematical terms, a novile is 3 x 3, i.e. a
> multiplied trine, whereas a semi-sextile is 3 x 4, and therefore
> combines the qualities of a square with a trine.
>
> Signs next to one another are not necessarily antithetical - each sign
> gives birth to the sign that follows it, so they always have much in
> common.
Every astrologer knows that to be the intention but does the average
everyday person, or even a president, who lives with such aspects, know it?
The novile represents the activation of this commonality,
> rather than a semi-sextile which would represent the activation of a
> need for adjustment and an overcoming of difference to reveal that
> commonality.
>
You use the word *activation* for a novile aspect, whilst placing it above
within the trine series of aspects (and/or harmonics) which, as I understood
them, imply ease of potential or vice-versa. Activation is a quality arising
from the square, requiring some sort of strength or force, following the '
requiring effort' (but not necessarily finding/doing it) from the
semi-sextile. I have difficulty linking the two, 40 = activation, as you
describe it to mean.
Next thought:-
Should astrology be studied through the exact science of mathematics or
physical nature? :-))
Regards,
Christine.
> Ian
>
Astrology Cycles
> You use the word *activation* for a novile aspect
Nope I used it for both aspects but I wasn't using it to describe the
quality of the aspect, I was using it to describe aspects in general. The
presence of an aspect represents the activation of a relationship between
two drives in the self. That's how I meant it :-)
> Next thought:-
> Should astrology be studied through the exact science of mathematics or
> physical nature? :-))
I don't consider them to be separate. Physical sciences can explain music,
but music is art - where is the separation? ;-)
Ian
Astrology Cycles
> Are you referring to astrologers and their way of interpretting charts
> through looking at nature? I'd have to plead guilty in that case, although
I
> am fully aware that e.g. air and water can create one h--- of a storm,
> mentally confusing based on emotion, just as easily as stirring emotions
> and/or understanding what causes them.
I'm referring to the tradition that astrologers have passed down that looks
at nature through the lens of their own bias which causes them to perceive
conflict, division, incompatibility where nature doesn't actually see such
incompatibility. We need to question a lot of these received wisdoms,
because they may have been appropriate or 'truth' at one time, but they now
lock us in a pattern of self-limitation, which will prevent our evolution,
IMHO lol.
> Maybe I am old-fashioned after all ( darn that Saturn return !) because I
> don't think one can neglect to look at the traditional meaning behind
> aspects. The theory of harmonics seems to 'clump' them altogether without
> allowing for the individuality of sign involved between each part of an
> aspect (if you understand what I mean).
The main traditional meaning that is currently still taught was based on a
neglect of harmonics lol, and is based on an incorrect footing. It was/is
also arguably an oversimplification of life - it doesn't allow for the whole
of experience to be understood, and misses out some crucial parts of 3D
experience. The essence of the music of the spheres is harmonic resonance.
But I disagree that the theory of harmonics doesn't allow for the
individuality of the sign involved - I find it actually enhances the
interpretation.
For instance, if you look at the chart for the first air strikes on Baghdad,
for instance, Mars appears to be unaspected except for a wide conjunction
with Chiron. That Mars conjunction with Chiron is in the same sign, so the
conjunction representing a unity of the two principles shown by the planets
has just one theme: Capricorn. But the conjunction is across two houses -
would you find it unusual to consider these two houses linked by the
conjunction? Probably not, but if the conjunction was across two signs it
would activate the same uniting principle. No astrologer I know would
ignore the signs meanings - they would blend the meaning of the conjunction
with the meaning of the two signs. I would say that combining the two
enhances the interpretation.
To give a slightly different example of the value of harmonics, when you
look at the so-called harmonics (which for me, is just another word for
'aspects') of this 'unaspected' Mars in the Baghdad air strikes chart, Mars
is septile Uranus, septile the MC, novile the Sun, undecile Neptune. To
list the signs: Mars is in Capricorn, Uranus is in Pisces, the MC is in
Sagittarius, the Sun is in Pisces, Neptune is in Aquarius. Mars will always
function through Capricorn in this chart, however the septile to Uranus in
Pisces has a much different quality than thinking of Capricorn and Pisces as
sextile one another. When you consider that a septile is an aspect of
fantasy (and possibly delusion), and inspiration, then military action
(Mars) and on the basis of ideology (Uranus), and/or to liberate (Uranus)
makes a huge amount of sense. But this in no way precludes interpreting the
fact that Mars is in Capricorn and Uranus is in Pisces. It just adds
meaning where before there was no connection.
To take another one from this same chart, the Sun is in Pisces suggesting
many things, but one of which would be the feeling of providing some sort of
service, of having a purpose that somehow involves compassion or helping
one's fellow humans. Sun in Pisces could be relatively passive, or
unfocused in its self-expression. The novile with Mars changes things
considerably. It indicates that there is a happy acceptance of the drive
for self-assertion at best, and the urge to aggression at worst. It
suggests that this Sun in Pisces is not likely to be as unfocused or aimless
as it could have been, and that the 'compassion' is likely to be a tough one
that knows the importance of setting limits and boundaries (Mars in
Capricorn).
Ian
Christine
Astrology Cycles <astroNOlo...@AhotmailM.com> schreef in
>
> I'm referring to the tradition that astrologers have passed down that
looks
> at nature through the lens of their own bias which causes them to perceive
> conflict, division, incompatibility where nature doesn't actually see such
> incompatibility. We need to question a lot of these received wisdoms,
> because they may have been appropriate or 'truth' at one time, but they
now
> lock us in a pattern of self-limitation, which will prevent our evolution,
> IMHO lol.
I've spent the last two years trying to infuse 'traditional' astrology into
my 'modern' concept of it, and now I read this :-)).
Have we gone into the 4th dimension: ancient, traditional, modern, and NEW
astrology? :-)
[..]
I have not studied harmonics in length except as compulsory exercises many
years ago. I cannot comment on your reasoning EXCEPT to ask if such
reasoning is not based upon one's perspective of how life could be and an
harmonic should/could work.
If harmonics involve 'the harmony' of aspects, can that also act less
harmoniously according to one's perspective?
If I take your above example and try to think of this situation from an
everyday Iraqi view, I have seen the Mars in Capricorn novile Pisces Sun,
septile Uranus, as a monster of a war machine( MA in CP) looming from
nowhere(Pisces)....War of the Worlds, Indepence Day, and Star Wars style
(S.F. Uranus in Pisces)...., sending 3000 missiles over my head to scare the
life out of me, destroy and disintegrate a way of life as I knew it, under
the pretense and illusionary name of Freedom ( Uranus in Pisces).This
fighting machine to liberate me is all achieved through the visionary
purpose ( Sagittarius MC) of a foreign source whose beliefs differ to my own
and my country, yet may not possess the vision to see the long-term, rather
than immediate consequences of such actions.
Pisces was never about reality when I was taught astrology, and Uranus in
Pisces could shatter dreams of/and faith in the elusive nature of what is
called 'Freedom'. It could turn out as one big farce. Where's the harmony in
that?
I agree that everything around we humans is in harmony, on and off this
planet. Human evolution doesn't appear to have caught on, yet.
Regards,
Christine.
> Ian
>
Ray Murphy
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>
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>>
>> I'm referring to the tradition that astrologers have passed down that
>looks
>> at nature through the lens of their own bias which causes them to perceive
>> conflict, division, incompatibility where nature doesn't actually see such
>> incompatibility. We need to question a lot of these received wisdoms,
>> because they may have been appropriate or 'truth' at one time, but they
>now
>> lock us in a pattern of self-limitation, which will prevent our evolution,
>> IMHO lol.
>
>I've spent the last two years trying to infuse 'traditional' astrology into
>my 'modern' concept of it, and now I read this :-)).
>Have we gone into the 4th dimension: ancient, traditional, modern, and NEW
>astrology? :-)
RM: I don't know what the definition of 'Traditional Astrology" is,
but it seems that a lot of 'Modern Astrology' is not actually
different, but merely "stripped down" because of rejection by teachers
and students or a disinterest in learning all the facets of it.
>
>[..]
>>
>> To give a slightly different example of the value of harmonics, when you
>> look at the so-called harmonics (which for me, is just another word for
>> 'aspects') ..........
[.....]
>
>I have not studied harmonics in length except as compulsory exercises many
>years ago. I cannot comment on your reasoning EXCEPT to ask if such
>reasoning is not based upon one's perspective of how life could be and an
>harmonic should/could work.
>If harmonics involve 'the harmony' of aspects, can that also act less
>harmoniously according to one's perspective?
RM: No one ever seems to say anything much about Harmonics, and
sometimes I wonder if a lot of astrologers are actually talking about
the same thing.
Traditionally the aspects were derived by dividing the circle by
various numbers to yield *one* aspect per division, but others refer
to harmonics as being multiples of those derived aspects -- ie: 40,
80, 120, 160, 200, 240, 280, 320.
Personally I've never seen anything which makes me believe that
harmonics (in the multiple sense) work at all, and yet the original
divisions do.
>
>If I take your above example and try to think of this situation from an
>everyday Iraqi view, I have seen the Mars in Capricorn novile Pisces Sun,
>septile Uranus, as a monster of a war machine( MA in CP) looming from
>nowhere(Pisces)....War of the Worlds, Indepence Day, and Star Wars style
>(S.F. Uranus in Pisces)...., sending 3000 missiles over my head to scare the
>life out of me, destroy and disintegrate a way of life as I knew it,
RM: Yes that's the general idea - getting rid of the extreme fear,
atrocities, unemployment, lack of food and medicine etc.
Yes Iraqi's will certainly have that 'way of life disintegrated' but
they ~wanted~ it disintegrated.
>under the pretense and illusionary name of Freedom ( Uranus in Pisces).
RM: There's nothing illusory about the liberation of Iraq at all, so
Uranus in Pisces may not be figuring very much.
>This
>fighting machine to liberate me is all achieved through the visionary
>purpose ( Sagittarius MC) of a foreign source whose beliefs differ to my own
>and my country, yet may not possess the vision to see the long-term, rather
>than immediate consequences of such actions.
RM: The Iraqi people will now be able to have medicines and pain
killers and many other essential things for modern living. These are
immediate and long-term improvements which are long overdue and far
more important that jockeying for power in the European Union.
>Pisces was never about reality when I was taught astrology, and Uranus in
>Pisces could shatter dreams of/and faith in the elusive nature of what is
>called 'Freedom'. It could turn out as one big farce. Where's the harmony in
>that?
RM: All astrological factors can manifest in any way at all, so it's
not correct to say "Pisces was never about reality". Pisces influences
are simply ~different~ and it's our job to discern those differences,
rather than to constantly apply a base keyword to all things
associated with the sign.
>
>I agree that everything around we humans is in harmony, on and off this
>planet. Human evolution doesn't appear to have caught on, yet.
>
>Regards,
>Christine.
>
>
>
>> Ian
Ray