Chiron in T Square

[PMD]

Hi,

Just realized that there is a T Square in my Chart !!
but it is courtsey of Chiron.

Does anyone have any experience with Chiron involved in a T Square?
Sun and Moon in 2nd,
Mars,Uranus and Pluto in 11th
and Chiron in 5th.

I don't get impressed with teachers very quickly and there was a philosopher
called J.Krishnamurti, who taught hat you are your own teacher, seemed to
have a great influence on me,but, I thought that was more of sagittarian
influence of independence square by Uranian indivisuality.

*) T Square Sun- Mars Chiron
*) T Square Moon in - Mars - Chiron
*) T Square Sun - Uranus - Chiron
*) T Square Moon - Uranus - Chiron
*) T Square Sun - Pluto - Chiron
*) T Square Moon - Pluto - Chiron

thanks for your help.

BTW how can I get my email address changed to the "nospam" version of
emails, I am really jealous of the ones who have got that kind of email
address on the newsgroup.

Pankaj

Pankaj

[SeaGtGruff]

Pankaj (pmd...@optusnet.com.au) wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just realized that there is a T Square in my Chart !!
> but it is courtsey of Chiron.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with Chiron involved in a T Square?

[...]

I have a T-Square or Grand Cross involving Chiron. The T-Square is fairly
close-- Chiron opposite Uranus about 4 degrees, and Mars square both Chiron and
Uranus about 2 degrees, with Mars almost exactly at the Chiron/Uranus midpoint.
The Grand Cross (which is a T-Square without Chiron) is not nearly as close--
Mars opposite Jupiter about 7 degrees, Jupiter square Chiron about 5 degrees,
and Jupiter square Uranus about 9 degrees, in addition to the aspects already
listed.

Although I do have some ideas about what my Chiron T-Square means to me, I
haven't dwelled on it enough to say for sure. Also, Chiron is involved in some
"easy" aspects, one being virtually exact-- Moon trine Chiron about 1 degree,
and Mercury sextile Chiron about 0 degrees. The Moon, Mercury, and Mars form a
Yod; and the Moon, Mercury, Chiron, and Uranus form a Cradle. I like to refer
to the configuration between my Moon, Mercury, Mars, Chiron, and Uranus as a
Bassinet, or "a Cradle with a Handle." :-)

> BTW how can I get my email address changed to the "nospam" version of
> emails, I am really jealous of the ones who have got that kind of email
> address on the newsgroup.
>
> Pankaj

Many programs let you modify your e-mail address as it is displayed in
newsgroup posts, in order to "spam-proof" it. I'm on AOL, which lets me add
extra characters to my e-mail address if I want. Check the options on whatever
service or software you're using to see if that sort of thing is available to
you.

However, everyone should please note that using a "spam-proof" e-mail address
will prevent any acceptance or rejection notices from reaching you if a post is
accepted or rejected.

Michael Rideout

[Chelsea Polk]

> Just realized that there is a T Square in my Chart !!
> but it is courtsey of Chiron.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with Chiron involved in a T Square?
> Sun and Moon in 2nd,
> Mars,Uranus and Pluto in 11th
> and Chiron in 5th.

very odd. I have a similar T-square, with a few of the same planets
involved:

Uranus 4 Lib 30, 5th house, +0 41" dec
Sun 5 Lib 51, 5th house, +0 00" dec
Mercury 6 Lib 18, 5th house, Rx -2 33" dec

Mars 4 Cap 58, 8th house -2 38" dec

Chiron 4 Ari 32, 11th house +3 02" dec

The thing that I've noticed about aspect patterns is that the interpretation
and synthesis gets more and more complicated every time you look at it. And
I'm thoroughly confused about Chiron - one group of astrologers go for the
wounded healer/maverick image, and another group says that it's the best
darn thing since sliced bread - makes you famous, rich, and loved by
princes. (G)

Chelsea

[Christine]

PMD <pmd...@optusnet.com.au> schreef in berichtnieuws
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> Hi,
>
> Just realized that there is a T Square in my Chart !!
> but it is courtsey of Chiron.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with Chiron involved in a T Square?
> Sun and Moon in 2nd,
> Mars,Uranus and Pluto in 11th
> and Chiron in 5th.
>
> I don't get impressed with teachers very quickly and there was a
philosopher
> called J.Krishnamurti, who taught hat you are your own teacher, seemed to
> have a great influence on me,but, I thought that was more of sagittarian
> influence of independence square by Uranian indivisuality.
>

I was taught that Jupiter was the representation of one's inner
teacher/guide. Jupiter imparts knowledge from which we can learn further;
that would make us our own teacher, wouldn't it ?
>From above info., I would guess that you have the T-square in mutable signs,
Sag Sun and moon(?), so the self identification with the teacher/philosopher
must be quite natural to you.
The duality of the signs in the T-square might produce the struggle with a
need for, as well as break from, the comforts of everday worldly reality
(VI), whereby the values(2nd) of beliefs (SG) seek to find fusion with the
intangible form of Spiritual truth(PI). If Sag.(teacher/teaching/ or self)
possesses any kind of personal inclination toward 'playing God', the total
sacrifice and inner cleansing of Self that is required from Chiron in Pisces
in the 5th may make its lesson of humility and 'total personal unimportance'
an inwardly painful one to achieve and/or accept, in order to become the
prophet, priest, professor, or spiritual teacher(SG) within the community of
which one is but a part (VG. 11th).

Christine.

[Martin Lass]

Pankaj,
Your Sun and Moon in the 2nd are the key to the resolution of the issues
represented by the opposition of Chiron in 5th and Pluto, Mars, Uranus in
11th.
Chiron in 5th represents a Wound to your sense of self (ego), your sense of
being able to freely express and create and/or a Wound around your children
or your ability to father/mother,
The opposition with the 11th house planets represents a strong and pressing
'light' shone constantly upon your Wounds (aforementioned)... your first
reaction (Mars) is to lash out at other or at yourself. Other reaction can
be destructive, seeking to destroy the perceived origin of the Wounds and
issues. Lastly, there will eventually come the impulse (more often than not
arising from seeing the results of your volatile reactions!) to actually go
into your Wounds and issues (with the guiding light of Uranus) and deal with
them (Healing).
The Sun/Moon in 2nd house is the key... i.e. the reconciliation between your
higher self and its ideals (Sun)and your lower self and its animal reactions
(Moon).
In short... your task is to recognize that you are not one person in a body,
but many... in particular, a lower self that is earth-oriented and sees
things in terms of the dualities of right and wrong, black and white, yes
and no, etcetera (based on the physical sensory mechanism) and a higher
potential that is 'heaven'-oriented and knows innately that there is a
bigger picture with respect to your Wounds and issues that encompasses and
transcends all sides of the given issues... ultimately manifesting as
Unconditional Love.
regards,
Martin Lass
www.martinlass.com/astrohome.htm

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