Quotes that could have been astrological

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Kjell

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Feb 10, 2008, 10:49:16 AM2/10/08
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I found a quote that in all likeliness isn't about astrology, but very
well could have been. Are there more quotelovers out there, that could
think of quotes to add?

"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future."
--- Niels Bohr

Jyeshta

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Feb 10, 2008, 8:24:03 PM2/10/08
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:49:16 -0600, Kjell <kjel...@gmail.com>
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There are so many, Kjell, written mostly prior to the 18th
Century. I should try to compile a bunch, but I just don't have
much time. Actually, many of those quotes were from astronomers,
and philosophers, who were also astrologers.

Apollia

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Feb 11, 2008, 8:06:36 AM2/11/08
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This thread reminds me, there was an interesting article I saw way
back in April 2002.

http://samvak.tripod.com/econbehave.html
Economics - Psychology's Neglected Branch

When I read that article, I somehow got the notion of swapping some of
the economic terms for astrological terms instead. Some of what
resulted seemed rather appropriate for astrology as well.

Can't post the altered version due to copyright, but, here's a NoteTab
Light clip I made with which anyone can do their own private
conversion of the article using the wonderful clipbook feature of the
free text editor NoteTab Light (available at http://notetab.com/ ):


;----Beginning of NoteTab Light clip

^!Replace "Economics" >> Astrology WA
^!Replace "economics" >> astrology WA
^!Replace "Economic" >> Astrological WA
^!Replace "economic" >> astrological WA
^!Replace "economist" >> astrologer WA
^!Replace "Economist" >> Astrologer WA
^!Replace "Economists" >> Astrologers WA
^!Replace "economists" >> astrologers WA
^!Replace "econometric" >> astrolometric WA

;----End of NoteTab Light clip


Also, over the past several years I've piled up a small collection of
quotes I liked or found interesting, which I either copied and pasted
from the internet, or typed myself into a text file after hearing them
on TV or reading them in books. Some of them seem suitable for this
thread.

I haven't double-checked all of these, so, I won't vouch for the
accuracy of all these quotes.


"... our science is essentially an art which could not live without
the occasional flash of genius in the mind of some sensitive man, who,
alive to the smallest of indications, knows the truth before he has
the proof."

--- Peter J. W. Debye, quoted in preface of Mathematics in
Everyday Things by William C. Vergara, pages ix/x. Noted 06:11
11/27/2007.


"It was impossible to connect the dots looking forward. You can only
connect them looking backwards, so you have to trust that the dots
will somehow connect in your future."
--- Steve Jobs. Collected 14:02 2/10/2008, found here:
http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/06/13.2.shtml?ppp=50&p=189231

Reminds me of how transits, etc. can work, or seem to work.


"There may be easier methods to self-improvement, but sometimes it
happens that the quickest distance between two points is a crooked
line... through the Twilight Zone."

--- From an episode of the Twilight Zone I was watching. (I didn't
write down which one). Noted at 4:29 AM, 12/31/2007.


"It often does more harm than good to force definitions on things we
don't understand. Besides, only in logic and mathematics do
definitions ever capture concepts perfectly. The things we deal with
in practical life are usually too complicated to be represented by
neat, compact expressions. Especially when it comes to understanding
minds, we still know so little that we can't be sure our ideas about
psychology are even aimed in the right directions. In any case, one
must not mistake defining things for knowing what they are."

--- Marvin Minsky, from The Society Of Mind, 1985. Collected
7/14/2004?


"A nice adaptation of conditions will make almost any hypothesis agree
with the phenomena. This will please the imagination but does not
advance our knowledge."
--- J. Black, 1803. Collected sometime between Feb. and Apr.
2003.


"Invisible forces are all about us. Of some we have an imperfect
knowledge, while of others we have as yet only the vaguest idea."
--- Laura Ingalls Wilder. Collected sometime in 2003.


"Eliminate the impossible, and whatever remains, however improbable,
is the truth."
--- Sherlock Holmes in a story by Arthur Conan Doyle. Collected
08:57 1/27/2005.


"When you have exhausted all possibilities, remember this - you
haven't."
--- Thomas Edison. Collected 19:18 12/7/2007.


"...the purpose of research is not to imagine that one possesses the
theory which alone is right, but, doubting all theories, to approach
gradually nearer the truth."
--- C. G. Jung. Collected 13:53 5/11/2007.


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is
proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in
everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to
investigation."
--- Herbert Spencer. Collected sometime before March 2003?


"I never came upon any of my discoveries through the process of
rational thinking."
--- Albert Einstein. Collected maybe in Aug. 2003.


"Remember you are just an extra in everyone else's play."
--- Franklin D. Roosevelt. Collected 03:26 8/20/2006.

This quote makes me think of how no matter how important you are to
someone else, at most, you're probably only represented in their natal
chart by a planet or house or two (or more), and/or maybe some
asteroids. If at all. :-)


"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as
fate."

--- C.G. Jung. Collected sometime between 6/28/2004 and 7/1/2004.


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Apollia My website: http://www.astroblahhh.com/

Birth data: -qa July 3 1981 12:50 EDT 79:59W 40:26N (Pittsburgh, PA)

astropophageous

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Feb 11, 2008, 6:29:15 PM2/11/08
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"Kjell" <kjel...@gmail.com> wrote in news message
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Hmm... do you think the following might be about astrology ? Chinese
astrology perhaps ?

"Confucius say : man who puts on pants has difficulty keeping both feet on
ground."

Astropophageous

Richard Nolle

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Feb 11, 2008, 6:28:52 PM2/11/08
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"Apollia" <xerx...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Thanks, Apollia. I enjoyed your reflections on substituting astrology for
economics, etc. And also the quotations you cited. Good food for thought!

--Richard

http://www.astropro.com/
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consultations/orders = 800-527-8761

"Astrology is about time . . . what else is there?"

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astropophageous

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Feb 12, 2008, 8:09:42 PM2/12/08
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"Hermes" <her...@exactphilosophy.net> wrote in news message
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> One more:
>
> "You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you..."
>
> (From a 1970's song by Carly Simon)
>
> Variations:
>
> "You're so vain, you probably think this chart is about you..."
>
> "You're so vain, you probably think this transit is about you..."
>
> "You're so vain, you probably think this post/thread is about you..."
>
> "You're so vain, you probably think this quote is about the world
> rather than just about you..."
>
> Joy in repetition, Mars in Gemini? ;)
>
> Relativity: Pisces, experience of a complete cycle of signs,
> almost perfectly balanced with each sign's view and approach
> to the world countered by its opposite sign, thus relativating
> each view, and, yet, that balance itself is utterly biased...
>
> Time: What would time be without space, without love, without
> anything in the world. What would anything be without something
> else to relate it too, what would happiness be without sadness,
> what would gain be without loss, what would a life be without
> reflection, without mental time travel, without Mercury...
>
> "All said, the reader often seems to unconsciously, beadfully frown
> right on mere security; intuitively, mindful of niobic, aquaintant
> wiring of really long drops, brought yet putting a vane link, illusive,
> nearly adept." (21 April 2001, 15:23, 15 min, snow outside)
>
> By me, clue is 5th word from the end of the end. Puzzles have
> come more into focus lately, at least in my experience, so maybe
> it is all about time (Pluto in Capricorn, Saturn in Virgo...),
> or is that just me "You're so vain...", even sun and mercury of
> Barak Hussein Obama reflect mine, so maybe I myself will become
> president of the USA in autumn! Or am I dreaming all of this?
>
> Hope this is not too strange... Fellini comes to my mind ;)

What's he doing there ? :)

Astropophageous

P.S. Once more : The fool is ruled by his stars, the wise man rules his
(Paracelsus, probably not literally exact). This means, obviously, that
worrying about your transits is NOT the wise man's way and should be forgone
!

Astropophageous

astropophageous

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Feb 12, 2008, 8:06:37 PM2/12/08
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I, for one, am feeling replete ! :)

Astropophageous

astropophageous

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Feb 12, 2008, 8:06:55 PM2/12/08
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"Hermes" <her...@exactphilosophy.net> wrote in news message
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> Kjell wrote:
>
> : I found a quote that in all likeliness isn't about astrology, but very
> Here is one which it is maybe not obvious at first:
>
> "You like someone for their virtues,
> but you love someone for their faults."
(...)

There are many kinds of love : you can love someone *for* their faults, and
you can love someone *with* their faults (or notwithstanding their faults).

Astropophageous

astropophageous

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Feb 12, 2008, 8:08:41 PM2/12/08
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"astropophageous" <aze...@ytreza.com> wrote in news message
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I think it was rather this way : "man who wants to put on pants has

difficulty keeping both feet on ground".

Wise men, as you know, can sometimes be very subtle about words.

Astropophageous

astropophageous

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Feb 12, 2008, 8:10:31 PM2/12/08
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"Apollia" <xerx...@aol.com> wrote in news message
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> On Feb 10, 10:49 am, Kjell <kjelle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I found a quote that in all likeliness isn't about astrology, but very
>> well could have been. Are there more quotelovers out there, that could
>> think of quotes to add?
>>

>


> "When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as
> fate."
>
> --- C.G. Jung. Collected sometime between 6/28/2004 and 7/1/2004.


This is certainly one of the most portentious, and to the mark, of the lot.
As far as I am concerned, it reaches down to a much deeper level of the
human condition than most.

Astropophageous

Apollia

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Feb 13, 2008, 7:47:28 AM2/13/08
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On Feb 12, 8:06 pm, "astropophageous" <aze...@ytreza.com> wrote:
> "Richard Nolle" <nos...@spamfree.com> wrote in news messagenews:H91sj.9218$n42....@newsfe08.phx...

[...]

> > Thanks, Apollia. I enjoyed your reflections on substituting astrology for
> > economics, etc. And also the quotations you cited. Good food for thought!
>
> I, for one, am feeling replete ! :)
>
> Astropophageous

You're welcome, glad you two liked it. :-)

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Apollia

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Feb 16, 2008, 2:03:23 PM2/16/08
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On Feb 13, 7:05 pm, Hermes <her...@exactphilosophy.net> wrote:
> Apollia wrote:
>
> [just picking out one, no time to reply to all...]
>
> : "When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as

> : fate."
> :
> : --- C.G. Jung. Collected sometime between 6/28/2004 and 7/1/2004.
>
> About a month before that, I had the idea that my site is
> now about, namely to define elements as follows:
>
> [See my site for more details; I will get to the quote further
> below in detail and link it to the model in quite an astonishing,
> albeit a bit abstract, way that is hopefully still accessible.]
>
> (open your eyes for the first time in your life and see:)

I ran into a quote a couple days ago on the web which seemed to fit
here.

"See first, think later, then test. But always see first. Otherwise
you will only see what you were expecting. Most scientists forget
that."

--Douglas Adams. Collected 21:47 2/14/2008.

Nothing else to add except thanks for everything, it was really
interesting.

Kjell

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Mar 9, 2008, 8:05:56 AM3/9/08
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"There is really no astrological evidence that science is anything
more than a medieval superstition"

-- Stephen James

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