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Revenge: Nemesis #128

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Jonathan Dunn

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Jul 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/11/99
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I'm looking into this body. Many fascinating connections here. The people who seem to have an axe to grind seem to have the connection to this body. Great link here http://hsa.brown.edu/~maicar/Nemesis.html:
 
Excerpt: "Nemesis is an implacable deity to men of violence and is called Retribution or Divine Vengeance. She punishes the absence of moderation and re-establish order when things are out of proportion, as excesses of pride or undeserved happiness. Nemesis puts to sleep presumptuous boasting and checks offensive words, for there is for light words a heavy penalty, exacted by this goddess, who is the messenger of Justice. So those who abuse others because they feel the company of Fortune, sooner or later meet Nemesis, when Fortune, who does not know constancy, has departed." It goes on.
 
I looked at a few charts - Hitler, Klebold/Harris...I've been ruminating a lot on my 'axes to grind' - especially with old flames - turns out Nemesis is in the degree of my Chiron right now. Last Month, Jupiter went opposite my Nemesis.
 
As I started to look at a few charts, I thought to myself 'Wow, ex-girfriend #3 must have this strongly placed, and looked, and yes, it is in the nativity in the middle of the Sun/Moon conjunction. Moon 15 Tau, Sun 17 Tau, Nemesis 15 Tau. Strong (inner) sense of revenge/judgement...
 
The Columbine charts:
 
In Eric Harris' chart, Moon is closely trine Nemesis, and Nemesis is square Uranus, and if the 9:37pm birthtime is good, square ASC within about 7 degrees. (As I write these words, Nemesis is at 4 Pisces, same as Harris' nativity.)
 
A peek at EH's helio chart puts Nemesis tight with everything:
 
Mercury 17 Aqu - conj
Nemesis 17 Aqu
 
Earth/Moon 21 Lib - tri
 
Mars 18 Ari - sxt
Venus 22 Ari - sxt
 
Chiron 18 Tau - squ
 
As we might expect, Dylan Klebold has a looser pattern.
Nemesis trine Mars (less than 2 degrees)
       opp Saturn (5 degrees)
       opp Mercury (8 degrees)
       opp Jupiter (9 degrees)
Heliocentrically,
Nemesis trine Uranus (less than 2 degrees)
        squ Neptune (4 degrees)
        squ Venus (3 degrees)
 
At the time of the shootings,
 
Nemesis was geo at 18 Aqu (Harris' helio position),
    sextile his natal Mars to the degree, another couple from sextile his Sun/Venus,
    square his Chiron (2).
 
Klebold: transiting Nemesis was to the degree quincunx Klebold's natal Sun, to the degree trine his ASC (if the 9:11am birthtime is good), conjunct his natal Moon within 2 degrees. 
 
They chose 20 Apr for their retributive mischief due to the fact that it was Hitler's birthday.
 
Hitler's chart has that Moon-Jupiter conjunction opposite Chiron:
 
Moon 6 Cap 49 'A Veiled Propher of Power'
Jupiter 8 Cap 14 'An Angel Carying a Harp'
Chiron 6 Can 50 'Two Fairies on a Moonlit Night'
 
These Sabians offer food for thought, but nothing amazes. So where's Nemesis?
 
Nemesis 4 Cap 56 'Indians Rowing a Canoe and Dancing a War Dance'.
 
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As I write this, I have channel-surfed over to 'Xena'. Quite fitting. Let's see.
29 Mar 1968 New Zealand
Sun 9 Aries
Saturn 15 Aries
Nemesis 18 Aries
NNode 19 Aries
 
I tend to agree with some MErlewine & others that the North Node often shows clues to career success.
 
I just put up an ephemeris with most of the above comments at http://www.speakeasy.org/~jondunn/ast/nemesis128.html 
 

Jonathan Dunn

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CB Willis <cbwi...@lightlink.com> wrote in message >

> Is Nemesis an asteroid?

Nemesis is asteroid # 128. It was discovered in 1872. It is one of the main
belt asteroids, with a period of about 4 and a half years. The perihelion is
in Aries, which is the most common for asteroids.

SeaGtGruff

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Jonathan Dunn wrote:

> Nemesis is asteroid # 128.

I like its number, because as an old 8-bit programmer, 128 has special meaning
as the value of the highest bit.

> It was discovered in 1872. It is one of the main belt
> asteroids, with a period of about 4 and a half years.
> The perihelion is in Aries, which is the most common
> for asteroids.

I didn't know that! Are there any theories as to why that is? It seems very
interesting.

Michael Rideout


Jonathan C. Dunn

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Jul 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/12/99
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Michael,

I had noticed that 128 is a power of 2...

As for the concentration of perihelia in Aries: when I first noticed it
(imported a long list of orbital elements into Excel and did a chart) I thought
it must be a mistake. I asked a question on sci.astro and never got any
responses.

Later, however, here is what I found from Eleanor Bach:

"Jupiter then exerts a pull art that body and disturbs its orbit. Jupiter
therefore is responsible for two very striking conditions in the Asteroid belt,
gaps and groups. The gaps (Kirkwood's Gaps, first pointed out by Daniel Kirkwood
of Indiana University in 1866) occur when the relative orbits of Jupiter and the
smaller bodies are commensurable, that is when the ratio of the mean orbital
motion of the minor planets to that of Jupiter is a simple fraction- 3/1, 5/2,
7/3, 2/1, etc. Repeated attractions by Jupiter eventually pull the small bodies
out of these positions and gaps are created. The gaps in the Asteroid belt are
similar to the gaps in the rings of Saturn which are caused by the pertubative
effects of Saturn's satellite Mimas (see Diagram I). Two of these gaps are the
Hecuba gap, with an orbital period half that of Jupiter. and the Hestia gap with
one-third of Jupiter's period. Groups, on the other hand, occur when the mean
motion is close to that of Jupiter. For example, when the critical ratio is 3/2
(type of the Asteroid Hilda), 4/3 (type of Thule), there are accumulations of
objects rather than gaps. The Hilda group consists of 19 Asteroids and no other
minor planets are to be found in the vicinity. Another factor pointing to
Jupiter's influence is this curious fact: The longitude of Jupiter's perihelion
is 13.5 degrees and Statistics show that a remarkable number of Asteroid orbits
also have perihelion longitudes concentrated close to that of the Jovian orbit.
In fact, three times as many Asteroids have their perihelion in the neighborhood
of this value compared with those which lie on or about Jupiter's aphelion."

(from http://www.speakeasy.org/~jondunn/ast/bach.html)

Jonathan Dunn
jon...@speakeasy.org
http://www.speakeasy.org/~jondunn/

SeaGtGruff

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Jul 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/12/99
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Jonathan Dunn wrote:

> I had noticed that 128 is a power of 2...

Yep! It's also the value of the high bit (bit 7) in a single byte, and on an
8-bit processor-- such as the 6502-- it often indicates a *negative* (which
seems appropriate for Nemesis). That is, byte values from 0 to 127 have bit 7
in an "off" setting (a 0), and are often taken to be positive values, whereas
byte values from 128 to 255 have bit 7 in an "on" setting (a 1), and are often
treated as negative values. Of course, you could also treat them as positive
values, but in comparisons, bit 7 is the "negative flag."

I guess I should find out more about Nemesis, because it seems to be very
active in my chart, as I noted in an earlier post. I'm going to have to go
back and reread what you posted about it, and maybe do a bit of reading in the
mythology books!

According to one of my dictionaries, "nemesis" means "retributive justice," and
"a downfall caused by this," or "an agent of such a downfall." In Greek, it
means "righteous indignation, personified as goddess of retribution." The
dictionary entry also says that it's from "nemo"(!), meaning "give what is
due." I didn't realize that when I looked up the position of asteroid Nemo
(#1640) in my chart! I was just attracted to it because of Captain Nemo, whose
name now makes sense to me. Maybe I should take back what I said about feeling
an affinity for that character? ;-)

Michael Rideout


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