Saturn hounding my progressed Moon
David Grahame
a reason for the depression of my emotions, my lovelife and my
interest in domestic projects. However, dabbling around with my Solar
Fire the other night, a Saturn square showed up that seemed to explain
my longterm problems.
Transit Saturn has been squaring my progressed Moon since 1992! In
1992, my lovelife fell apart and has not revived to any significant
degree since. And since that time, home improvement, which I used to
be very interested in, is drudgery to me, and I haven't had much
enthusiasm to get my house in any kind of presentable shape.
But after the relief of finding a cause for my doldrums, I was quietly
horrified to find that this Saturn square my progressed Moon will
recur again and again until 2017!!!
Does anyone have any advice for overcoming the ill effects of this
aspect? Do I need to go in for serious psychotherapy? Am I doomed to
be depressed and loveless for the next 18 years?
thanks for any help!
david
12 feb 1951, 5:55 am cst
26N12,98W14
Tad Perry
David,
My advice:
1. Fuck depression. It eats up big chunks of your life.
2. She really doesn't care one bit. She's fine with what she did. Get
mad at it if you wish, but get *over* it.
3. Go back to being who you were before meeting her and start heading
that way again (even small steps--but at least some form of *action*).
4. It is possible to erase mistakes but it takes a lot of constant work
and understanding that "there is no other way but this one, so why
waste one more minute?"
Your will-power to do things will return if you keep this attitude in
mind. And *then* you will start to feel happier.
Don't worry about Saturn. If you turn yourself on again, Saturn loses
his grip quickly.
Remember, you must happen to the cosmos. Don't let the cosmos happen
to you.
tvp
SeaGtGruff
> I was beginning to doubt astrology's validity, not
> being able to find a reason for the depression of my
> emotions, my lovelife and my interest in domestic
> projects. However, dabbling around with my Solar
> Fire the other night, a Saturn square showed up that
> seemed to explain my longterm problems.
>
> Transit Saturn has been squaring my progressed
> Moon since 1992! In 1992, my lovelife fell apart and
> has not revived to any significant degree since. And
> since that time, home improvement, which I used to
> be very interested in, is drudgery to me, and I
> haven't had much enthusiasm to get my house in
> any kind of presentable shape.
>
> But after the relief of finding a cause for my
> doldrums, I was quietly horrified to find that this
> Saturn square my progressed Moon will recur again
> and again until 2017!!!
>
> Does anyone have any advice for overcoming the ill
> effects of this aspect? Do I need to go in for serious
> psychotherapy? Am I doomed to be depressed and
> loveless for the next 18 years?
>
> thanks for any help!
>
> david
> 12 feb 1951, 5:55 am cst
> 26N12,98W14
What you're experiencing is a result of the similarity between Saturn's period
(in years) and the Moon's period (in days). Secondary progressions move at a
rate of "one day per year," so it's possible-- in fact, pretty common-- for
transiting Saturn to maintain the same aspect with the progressed Moon for
several years (off and on, as transiting Saturn goes direct and retrograde).
This is sometimes referred to as "Saturn chasing the Moon," especially when a
hard aspect is involved. (I think this term may be most correct when
transiting Saturn is conjunct the progressed Moon, but I don't see why it
couldn't be applied to other hard aspects between them.)
If the Moon and Saturn are in a hard aspect at birth, this condition may
continue (off and on) for several years during the early part of life,
depending on certain circumstances, such as whether the natal aspect was
applying or separating, and whether natal Saturn was direct or retrograde.
(The progressed Moon is a little faster than transiting Saturn, so this
condition requires that things be "just right," or it doesn't occur.) Or-- as
in your case-- it can crop up later in life, and continue (off and on) for
several years.
Your best bet is to put this situation in perspective now that you've
recognized it. Accept it as something that's beyond your capacity to change,
so your only recourse is to change yourself. Having become aware of the
situation, you can now deal with it-- and can keep an eye out for when the
square will be in orb, so you'll be ready. Before you were aware of it, you
were being influenced to experience a certain attitude or set of circumstances,
but without knowing why. Now you know why, which puts you in a much better
position to consciously choose whether you'll give in to that influence, or
fight against it. You can defy the things which are trying to influence your
behavior, after all! There is no law that says you *must* bow down to peer
pressure, or familial influences, or biological impulses, or astrological
influences, or any other types of influences. But sometimes the first step is
to recognize that an influence exists in the first place, and then to realize
that it's just that-- an influence, not a dictate that must be obeyed.
I can relate to your situation a little bit. This week I've been feeling a
little depressed, myself, and at first I didn't see anything in my chart that
might explain why. Last night it dawned on me, and it was pretty obvious.
Natally, I have Saturn square my Midheaven, with Uranus at the opposite
midpoint of the square, or sesquisquare both Saturn and the Midheaven. My
Saturn is at 29:42 Sagittarius, my Midheaven is at 0:56 Aries, and my Uranus is
at 15:36 Leo. I knew that transiting Saturn is squaring my Uranus, but I'd
forgotten that it's also semisquaring my Midheaven, and sesquisquaring my
Saturn, thereby activating that natal configuration. And it doesn't help that
transiting Uranus has been opposing my Uranus, semisquaring my Saturn, and
semisquaring my Midheaven (or conjoining my Saturn/Midheaven midpoint),
although those aspects aren't in orb right now. Of *course* I'm likely to be
feeling constrained by my job right now, and disappointed with my professional
status and career options!
Considering my natal chart, these are feelings I'm naturally prone to, anyway,
but these transits have been aggravating my natal configuration for a while
now, so I've been feeling the frustration more sharply than usual. Now that
I've recognized what's going on, I can choose whether to fight back or give in.
I've always had that choice, but becoming aware of these influences helps me a
little by giving me something more definite to fight against.
Getting back to *your* chart, it looks like you've got a lot going on between
your progressed chart and the transits. Your progressed Saturn and progressed
Midheaven are square, with progressed Venus at their opposite midpoint.
Transiting Saturn is conjunct your progressed Venus, sesquisquare your
progressed Saturn, and sesquisquare your progressed Midheaven right now.
That's not as long-term as "Saturn chasing the Moon," but certainly it must be
putting a damper on your sense of happiness, especially with regard to romance
and career-- as well as your home life (after all, your progressed Imum Coeli
is involved, too).
What you need is a good shot of optimism, faith in yourself, and tenacity to
resist the "dark side"! :-) It looks like you're about to get some of that
very soon, as transiting Jupiter trines your progressed Midheaven and conjoins
your progressed Mercury. That won't make the other things go away, but it
should give you a more optimistic frame of mind to help you fight off the
blues. How does that song go? "You've got to ac-cen-tuate the positive,
e-li-minate the negative, something something yadda yadda, and watch out for
Mr. Inbetween"?
Michael Rideout