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Prtam14852

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Sep 26, 2002, 1:30:01 PM9/26/02
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I was just wondering if any of you other Scorpio Risings had the
tendency to ooze sexuality.

As it turns out, I have three planets in Scorpio. I am a very sexual
being, even when I'm not being sexual. People have told me I have a
strong sexual energy about me. All I have to do it walk, look, or
stand there and there's the sex energy pouring out of me. Sometimes
it causes a problem because the Scorpio tends to run hot and cold
(either in the mood or far from it), and people mistake me for
wanting it all the time. Or, they think I just want a hot quicky,
(sometimes I do, but I desire emotion more) and it causes horrible
mix ups.

Is this a Scorpio Rising phenomenon or is it just because I have more
in Scorpio. I'm not incredibly good looking, in fact, I don't view
myself as that at all. I just have that sexual energy. I can't help
being a flirt, but I find people think I"m flirting even when I'm
not.

Has anyone noticed this in themselves, or been told this of
themselves?

The first time I heard about it, I was shocked. All I was doing was
sitting there and someone told me that I sex seemed to seep from my
pours. From then on, it's become more noticeable to me. And, I was
celibate at the time. lol

Ricky

Sarah

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Sep 30, 2002, 4:20:49 AM9/30/02
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prtam...@aol.com (Prtam14852) wrote in message news:<20020926132544...@mb-fp.aol.com>...

Hey Ricky, I have only one planet, my moon in scorpio and yes, I have
been told the same thing. It is a strange thing. It's just like this
sensual vibe that you get sometimes..I know exactly what you're
talking about

Nohar

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Oct 1, 2002, 2:54:43 AM10/1/02
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I have two planets rising in Scorpio and although people have not been
as generous with praise for me as for you two but they say it is in
my eyes which have DEPTH ??!!

I tend to look people in their eyes and just latch on to them for a
shortwhile and then let go,I think it is the intensity with which the
Scorpio Ascendant looks at others is the mystifying thing.

Nohar
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Jim Willis

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Oct 1, 2002, 10:55:05 PM10/1/02
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Most Scorpio people (Sun in Scorp, that is) that I meet have no fear
whatsoever of direct eye contact. When you look them right in the eye,
they react by NARROWING their eyes ("intensifying their gaze," I
guess) rather than averting them. Everyone I meet who noticeably does
that tends to have Sun in Scorp.
As for the sex thing... well, anyone of any sign can make themselves
unsexy... some Scorps turn that energy inward and become really
insecure. But my friend Jecie, a Scorpio, radiates sex very
strongly... when she gets on a dance floor, men become instantly
obsessed with wanting to get to know her. Also, my friend Jack, who
has Moon in Scorp, has a way with women I have never understood (he
has Pluto conj. Ascendant as well). Yeah, there is something about
Scorpio... it is the agony and the ecstasy.
Which is to say that it embodies the worst as well... someone who has
Mars in Scorpio is-- sorry to generalize, but-- downright evil when
they are in a negative state (although Mars in the opposite sign,
Taurus, is actually worse, the worst in the zodiac... they are just
less likely to get mad in the first place) My mom and ex-girlfriend
both have Mars in Scorpio... both are, when angry, easily described as
"A b!tch, plain and simple." Seriously, I couldn't believe some of the
stuff that came out of my ex's mouth when she got mad. I otherwise
might have stayed friends with her. But if such energy was under
control, it could only do good stuff...
I'd imagine Mars in Scorp is a great placement for martial arts,
kickboxing, something like that. Good in bed, too.

nohar@volcanomail.c

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Victoria M.

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Oct 2, 2002, 2:25:40 PM10/2/02
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Venus in Scorpio certainly looks for intensity in relationships, both in and
out of the bedroom.


Victoria
from beautiful El Granada


Michael

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Oct 2, 2002, 3:50:25 PM10/2/02
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In article <20021002132518...@mb-mp.aol.com>, Victoria M. says...

>
>Venus in Scorpio certainly looks for intensity in relationships, both in and
>out of the bedroom.


That's fine as long as you keep them both separate - or that intensity will
spell trouble. [Unless you are supper submissive. I.e. no self worth]

Michael

" [Potential] Sun in Scorpio and Venus in Cap. is a woman dominator par
excellence."

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>
>Victoria
>from beautiful El Granada
>
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Prtam14852

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Oct 2, 2002, 6:24:02 PM10/2/02
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>That's fine as long as you keep them both separate - or that intensity will
>spell trouble. [Unless you are supper submissive. I.e. no self worth]

Submissive, yes. But, I think even so, the Scorpio has a tremendous amount of
self worth. Unfortunately, our steady nature and ability to take the blows for
what they are is often misunderstood by others. But, when it's time to get up
and walk away, we know it and will do it, and you can always expect a little
justified kick in the groin in as a parting gift.

I think our self worth lies more in our spiritual nature rather than our need
to nurture our ego. We believe in love and give ourselves to it totally. We
can't help if our partners don't understand our steady devotion or our deep
emotions. We hold on because we merge with our partners, believe in the small
points of light within the darkness of our loved ones, and truly believe that
love should be giving of oneself totally. Just remember, though, that the
Scorpio has the eyes of an eagle and can see everything going on. We collect
information and remember every good and bad thing that each person has done to
us. We deal with people accordingly, and even the lover whom we stand by so
unconditionally is not safe from our sting should they try to cut us too
deeply. We may seem like we just take the beatings because of low self esteem
when in actuality our exoskeleton has provided us ample protection.

If we tend to seep into the lower form of Scorpio, self worth will become a
major issue. But, I don't think that a submissive Scorpio is necessarily
lacking in self worth.

Zale Taurus

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Oct 3, 2002, 3:20:17 PM10/3/02
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prtam...@aol.com (Prtam14852) wrote in message news:<20020926132544...@mb-fp.aol.com>...


Scorpio has three symbols:the scorpion;the eagle and the dove/angel.
The life force is inherent in Scorpio as sex and death are the environment in
Scorpio.
The first level is the unreflecting thrust of instincts.The stubborness
of this addicton to passions is symbolized by the myth of the scorpions
stinging itself to death in a corner,rather than capitulate.The sexuality
is ego-centered with little pro-generative sensitivity toward sex.

The eagle is the point of evolution,when the personality has gained
control over their area.The nature is still predatory and vain but
the consciousness now is sensitive to powers that might be superior to itself.

The angel/dove level is the most confusing.Here sexuality is of
a tantric nature, reducing immensely the number scorpios that
evolve to this level,as giving up the ego-gratification of sex
is very difficult.usually time is the only teacher.it is this level that
gives scorps the intense mental/ocular power.The orgasm of sex and
the awareness of the infinite draw from the same source.

The unique Trial of Scorpio is to experience the the lows and the highs
of the human experience: To walk through the swamps of instincts and elvolve
to a spiritual respect for mindkind.And so even if a scorpio stays in the
here and now,fate will have its way.

Zale

Aggie Underwood

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Oct 5, 2002, 4:18:35 PM10/5/02
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Michael wrote:

> " [Potential] Sun in Scorpio and Venus in Cap. is a woman dominator par
> excellence."

I think its the same the other way around too -- Sun in Cap
and Venus in Scorp. But if Saturn(Cap's ruler) were conjunct Venus,
might this lead the native to fear or feel a need to restrict this
propensity? Especially if Pluto squared the conjunction?

Thanks,
Aggie

Michael

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Oct 6, 2002, 9:10:31 AM10/6/02
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In article <4b44e2a4.02100...@posting.google.com>, Zale Taurus
says...

>
> The angel/dove level is the most confusing.


Does that have to do with Saturn progressing (Sun method) threw the house: Sex
partners are restrained or sexual dysfunction and other Saturn inhibitors? (
See: Saturn in Scorpio or 8th House)

>Here sexuality is of
> a tantric nature, reducing immensely the number scorpios that
> evolve to this level,as giving up the ego-gratification of sex
> is very difficult.usually time is the only teacher.it is this level that
> gives scorps the intense mental/ocular power.The orgasm of sex and
> the awareness of the infinite draw from the same source.

Key word: "Infinite" as the number eight is a double circle hooked together as a
representation of infinity. And Sex by a male and female is the only thing that
can assure the survival of the human race ( i.e. infinity)

Michael

Sarah

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Oct 8, 2002, 5:45:12 PM10/8/02
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Michael <nos...@newsranger.com> wrote in message news:<B9nn9.44310$15.1...@www.newsranger.com>...

About the Scorpios that look you straight in the eye, never
wavering... Ok, I'm not a scorpio, but like I mentioned above I have
a scorpio moon, which I find to be really intense and whenever I am
looking at someone while talking I feel as though if I look too hard,
I will know everything about them. Then meanwhile, my libra rising is
trying to keep the peace and stay objective as my scorp moon wants to
delve into things ....i dont know, I am confused on what i'm trying to
get across, but I think libra rising with a scorpio moon is hard...any
one have some advice!! LOL
~Sarah. PS. I have a leo sun

Prtam14852

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Oct 8, 2002, 10:30:41 PM10/8/02
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Funny. As I read your message, I wondered if your Libra Rising and Scorpio
Moon got along, then I got to the end and you settled it.

I don't think Scorpio and Libra fit well together. Libra is too surfacy and
wants to gloss over problems with a flowery attitude while Scorpio wants to
dive right in and experience everything within the depths. I think Libra has a
tendency to annoy Scorpio, while Libra thinks Scorpio is mean and just plain
too deep. Intensity scares Libra, while Libra's needing to be "happy all the
time" and indecision irritates Scorpio.

You must really irritate yourself sometimes. lol. I'm just kidding. Your
moon is in your second house. Okay, I don't know what that means, but I tend
to believe there are no major aspects with that and your rising that would make
this duality any worse or better. Luckily, you must be quite the looker with a
great smile, or at least present yourself well in social situations. I would
think that Libra Rising would make you a little more polite than most Scorpio,
a little less abbrasive. I wonder, also, if your a little less deadpan.
I can't help with the confusion. It seems like a confusing combo to me. It's
like my roommate and me. She's a Libra. She drives me up the wall sometimes,
but also smooths out my edges.

Michael

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Oct 8, 2002, 10:39:33 PM10/8/02
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In article <8c273488.02100...@posting.google.com>, Sarah says...

What other planets do you have in scorp.? ( Or aspects to the Moon- ' strong')

Michael

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Oct 8, 2002, 9:55:28 PM10/8/02
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In article <20021008212933...@mb-fc.aol.com>, Prtam14852 says...

>
>I don't think Scorpio and Libra fit well together.


Yes they do! Actually, the Scorpio is the natural teacher of Libra- Like you say
below. Libra is too surface oriented and needs a little help delving into the
issues; that is why they go well together as partners. ( or individuals )

>Libra is too surfacy and
>wants to gloss over problems with a flowery attitude while Scorpio wants to
>dive right in and experience everything within the depths. I think Libra has a
>tendency to annoy Scorpio, while Libra thinks Scorpio is mean and just plain
>too deep. Intensity scares Libra, while Libra's needing to be "happy all the
>time" and indecision irritates Scorpio.
>
>You must really irritate yourself sometimes. lol. I'm just kidding. Your
>moon is in your second house. Okay, I don't know what that means,


( Moon in the Second house)
Taurus: Possesive of possesions and conserned with security.

Natural Scorp Moon over-rules the Taurian house Moon by influence in general.
However, both apply to varying degrees.


> but I tend
>to believe there are no major aspects with that and your rising that would make
>this duality any worse or better. Luckily, you must be quite the looker with a
>great smile, or at least present yourself well in social situations. I would
>think that Libra Rising would make you a little more polite than most Scorpio,
>a little less abbrasive. I wonder, also, if your a little less deadpan.
>I can't help with the confusion. It seems like a confusing combo to me.

It's
>like my roommate and me. She's a Libra. She drives me up the wall sometimes,
>but also smooths out my edges.

Both, you and your roommate see each others Moons ( More often ) as the public
in general sees your ascendants as a general rule.


Michael

"No relationship is always smooth. Not even the best of them."

Sarah

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Oct 9, 2002, 1:47:56 PM10/9/02
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Michael <nos...@newsranger.com> wrote in message news:<hMLo9.44867$15.1...@www.newsranger.com>...
Hey Michael, as for me, I have of course my moon in scorpio and my
uranus... my birth data is Los Angeles 11:08am, Aug 2, 1979 My moon
is trine my mercury and trine my venus.. I am still new to this all
and don't know what it all means exactly. Also, my sun is trine my
neptune. There is more but I'll just stick with this for now.

drew

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Oct 9, 2002, 4:24:04 PM10/9/02
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<dream...@aol.com> writes

>About the Scorpios that look you straight in the eye, never
>wavering... Ok, I'm not a scorpio, but like I mentioned above I have
>a scorpio moon, which I find to be really intense and whenever I am
>looking at someone while talking I feel as though if I look too hard,
>I will know everything about them. Then meanwhile, my libra rising is
>trying to keep the peace and stay objective as my scorp moon wants to
>delve into things ....i dont know, I am confused on what i'm trying to
>get across, but I think libra rising with a scorpio moon is hard...any
>one have some advice!! LOL
>~Sarah. PS. I have a leo sun
>

Well, my wife has Moon in Scorpio and she struggles with the depths and
insecurities of it. Doesn't seem to help that she has Cancer Rising
either. Maybe we clash somewhat because I also add into this mix Scorpio
Rising and Mars in Scorpio. It makes for an ... interesting
relationship.

I don't know if it's pertinent, but I always tend to know when the
jealousy and insecurity is welling up in my wife because she begins to
talk incessantly, and I read once this is a symptom of Moon In Scorpio.

Anyway, Sarah, I hope you have more joy with your Moon than my wife does
-- at least for your partner's sake. ;-)

drew

Michael

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Oct 9, 2002, 10:54:45 PM10/9/02
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In article <8c273488.02100...@posting.google.com>, Sarah says...
>

>>
>>

>Hey Michael, as for me, I have of course my moon in scorpio and my
>uranus... my birth data is Los Angeles 11:08am, Aug 2, 1979 My moon
>is trine my mercury and trine my venus.. I am still new to this all
>and don't know what it all means exactly. Also, my sun is trine my
>neptune. There is more but I'll just stick with this for now.

Hello Sarah,


Well you do have both Merc. and Ven. trine your Moon in the 2nd - And your
Uranus is in Scorp too.

You are young. You have an over-all influence of the Moon in Moon-cycle
Astrology. The Chinese use this system and it is reliable for general overall
statements. However, your Moon is void and week. ( Close to Sag. ) I see it
(void ) as more in tune with your environment. Do not worry to much about what
people say about void Moons. All they really do is make your imagination keener.

So your Moon can have a tib-bit of blending with Sag.

I have to go because I have to get to a friends house. ( isaved your chart ) I
see your Venus is conjunct (star) Sirius in the tenth House for position of Los
Angeles.

And Sirius PED is over your MC - This will cause its influence on your life.
Since the star is with Venus and trines your Moon ( my method) says that it will
benefit your Moon/Venus trine axis.

Moon trine Venus is a vary positive sign for getting a partner that is above
your station in life. ( or if you chose, better looking.)

Michael

" no one aspect or influence make you"

Sarah

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Oct 9, 2002, 11:25:44 PM10/9/02
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drew <dr...@scorpio518.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<sEgXiPAX...@scorpio518.freeserve.co.uk>...

Wow, that is an interesting relationship!! Yes, moon in scorpio does
have some insecurities!! My friend has moon in scorpio and cancer
rising and he is a libra sun..he is very insecure. My scorpio moon
made me really shy, and just in the past few years I've been coming
out of it. your mars and rising in scorpio would be intense!! I heard
not to anger someone with mars in scorpio!! When my jealosy and
insecurity is welling up, I don't talk much, i don't think..
anyways, what is your sun sign. im a leo sun

drew

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Oct 11, 2002, 1:11:16 AM10/11/02
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>drew <dr...@scorpio518.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<sEgXiPAXdAp9EwgD@s

A lot of irrational jealousy. But I have Moon in Capricorn so that
allows me stay a little aloof and cold from it all. Ouch ... I'm making
this sound a marriage made in hell.

>My friend has moon in scorpio and cancer
>rising and he is a libra sun..he is very insecure.

Yeah, it's a very insecure combination, at least in my wife. That awful
tug between wanting to love desperately (needing to, in fact) and the
feeling of paranoia that it is all going to be taken away.

>My scorpio moon
>made me really shy, and just in the past few years I've been coming
>out of it.

My understanding of the Moon, on a really, really simplistic level is
that it basically represents 'feelings'. (Don't jump on me anyone, cos I
did say on a simple level). In that regard I find it incredibly
difficult to imagine how you or my wife must 'feel' when your essential
feeling nature is in a sign like Scorpio.

>your mars and rising in scorpio would be intense!!

Yes, since I got into astrology as an interest it began to make a lot of
sense of the 'intense' kind of life I've lived. I've read a lot about
the military and Scorpio, and indeed when I twenty-one I joined the
military and began in earnest my many close calls with death ...
basically giving up all control on the physical plane. I've lost count
of the amount of times I've been faced with the prospect of death,
especially by asphyxiation. (I don't recommend being gassed to anyone).

>I heard
>not to anger someone with mars in scorpio!!

I once read that ancient astrologers always advised generals to place
troops with Mars in Scorpio on the front-line of any battle.

I have a friend who's a professional astrologer and he once wrote out
for me exactly how Mars in Scorpio operates. Manipulating the
environment either up or down to make itself feel better. Understanding
how it worked helped me to control some of its baser expressions.

I could mail it you if you were interested, or post it here if that were
appropriate. (I'm not sure if there are any specific 'rules' here.)

>When my jealosy and
>insecurity is welling up, I don't talk much, i don't think..
>anyways, what is your sun sign. im a leo sun

My dad was a Leo Sun so I've seen the beauty and power in that placing
as well as the ... sadness.

I'm Sun sign Aquarius. More detachment and aloofness to infuriate my
wife. (She's a Sun Capricorn ... treading her way up the hard part of
the mountain).

drew

Zale Taurus

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Oct 11, 2002, 4:10:01 PM10/11/02
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Michael <nos...@newsranger.com> wrote in message news:<B9nn9.44310$15.1...@www.newsranger.com>...
> In article <4b44e2a4.02100...@posting.google.com>, Zale Taurus
> says...
> >
> > The angel/dove level is the most confusing.
>
>
> Does that have to do with Saturn progressing (Sun method) threw the house: Sex
> partners are restrained or sexual dysfunction and other Saturn inhibitors? (
> See: Saturn in Scorpio or 8th House)
\ Michael,
I was implying that the cultural roles offered in US society do not prepare
an individual to grow out of the lower chakra consumerism of
western culture.As a consequence,lower scorps will tend to drown in their
sludge,because their eyes have not been told there are higher planes.
Zale

Sarah

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Oct 11, 2002, 9:37:17 PM10/11/02
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drew <dr...@scorpio518.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<B$2I3KAzA...@scorpio518.freeserve.co.uk>...

Hey Drew!
Well, my fiance is a capricorn also, with aqaurius rising and libra
moon. So we both have libra in common (my rising) He is pretty aloof
too but his libra moon really helps him to be a great listener and the
desire to have a good relationship. He's my soulmate. Also, we have
a 6mo old boy named Aliester (Aries sun, Aquarius moon, Sag rising)
We both love to travel, and I'm thinking my son will too with his Sag
rising. Oh my God, I just realized that I actually worked with a guy
who was a capricorn, moon in scorpio, cancer rising!! If he was
insecure, it didn't show at all, and I always admired his work ethic,
his morals and dignity. Maybe it's different for men.

My mom and sister are aquarians just like you, except my mom has a
virgo moon and she's really nit picky, my sister is the complete
opposite with a pisces moon (did the whole drugs thing) and they do
NOT get along. If you want to know insecure meet her! However, all
of us girls in the house have libra rising. My brother and dad both
have scorpio rising. Interesting to me how it worked out. With all
the libra in the house, it makes it really peaceful.. people actually
say its either dull or relaxing. So that's the fam! LOL My dad is
actually a double libra (moon and sun, maybe more) and with the
scorpio rising makes him the perfect psychologist and he loves that
interpersonal connection. So do I, and I'm going to school for it.

Isn't astrology the wierdest thing? I really would like to know how
it works exactly and why. I know people have done statistics on it
and showed significant results, but how? For example did you know
that when the moon is directly over head you weigh slightly less?
That has to have an effect on the brain, and personality for that
matter. But rising signs are really strange. I mean, the exact time
you were born, how does that have an effect. Don't get me wrong, I
see the truth in it all, but I want some answers damnit!! LOL
Anyways, enough of me, what do you think?
~Sarah

Prtam14852

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Oct 12, 2002, 12:55:05 AM10/12/02
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>As a consequence,lower scorps will tend to drown in their
> sludge,because their eyes have not been told there are higher planes.

I think all Scorpios, including the lower, instinctually know there is a higher
plain. The problem lies in the taming of lower desires.

I personally sway between my higher desires of knowing God and my lower desires
of sexual debauchery, plus the higher desire of loving all beings and shedding
light, and the lower desire to selfishly love that one person with all
consuming passion. The demands of society rarely plays a role in the Scorpio
because we have come to realize no matter how we try to fit in, no one
understands us anyway. Like the Aquarian, we move in our own fashion. We only
seem to conform on the outer level because we NEED to fit in somehow. On the
inside, we are always aware of the possibilities, whether they be of the higher
aspects or lower. There is no in between.

However, even for the lower Scorpio, sex is not the sole goal. It is the
merging that happens within the act of sex. Sex, even in its most animalistic
forms, is a communication between two beings. I think the debauchery comes
when Venus enters the sign. Depending on the aspects, Venus in Scorpio can
cause real problems with sex and addiction. Even then, there is the internal
feeling that empty sex is unsatisfying, because the Scorpio, even though ruled
by the genitalia, really do want an emotional connection. But, again, it's the
way the Scorpio communicates, not because society forces its lower chakra
advertisment campaigns on us. We can see right through that.

Just as a note, I used to take a martial arts class where we practiced certain
techiniques to merge our center with our opponent and either throw or pin them.
It was a beautiful circular motion in every technique focused on becoming one
with the other person's force of energy and using that to nullify their attack.
Practice was always a sexual experience for me. Not in the way that it is
exciting and to the point of orgasm, but in the way that I felt that
physical/spiritual connection with the person I was working with. There was
that complete connection happening, much like what happens for the Scorpio and
sex, and it felt like I had intimatly known every person I practiced with.
That is the way sex feels too us, whether it be through love or plain "just for
the sake of sex" sex.

drew

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Oct 12, 2002, 4:58:23 PM10/12/02
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In article <20021011233011...@mb-fe.aol.com>, Prtam14852
<prtam...@aol.com> writes

>>As a consequence,lower scorps will tend to drown in their
>> sludge,because their eyes have not been told there are higher planes.
>
>I think all Scorpios, including the lower, instinctually know there is a higher
>plain. The problem lies in the taming of lower desires.

I agree. I have Scorpio Rising and for the first twenty-eight years of
my life my personality was 'untamed' and that left me scattered. My
personality was just filled with this depth of passion and intense
emotion, but it had no focus or direction. Maybe it was reaching for its
opposite - Taurus - and some of that stability and substance, but it
never found it.

My Aquarian Sun took me easily into systems and organizations and I
could play them like a fiddle, but it still gave all that intensity no
outlet. They were soulless times and painful because I didn't know what
was happening.

>
>I personally sway between my higher desires of knowing God and my lower desires
>of sexual debauchery, plus the higher desire of loving all beings and shedding
>light, and the lower desire to selfishly love that one person with all
>consuming passion.

I can identify with what you say. For me the switch got thrown when my
sexual energy found no creative outlet and began to become obsessional.
That's when the higher nature of Scorpio had to get out, and did.

>The demands of society rarely plays a role in the Scorpio
>because we have come to realize no matter how we try to fit in, no one
>understands us anyway.

That's a great distinction, because if you can't accept that you become
bitter. I was on the verge of becoming bitter (and obsessional and
paranoid) and I didn't like myself for it. Maybe you have to explore
rock-bottom before you realize the only way is up.

>Like the Aquarian, we move in our own fashion.

And I was both, playing out my crazy notion that I could save the world,
going into intense voluntary work on the streets of London at 19, taking
a kicking from the universe for my presumption, then fleeing into
another system (the military), seeking to save the world in a wholly
different way.

During this de-centered period I got married and had a family (another
system to hide in), but always burning with this intensity in my
personality which was still finding no creative outlet.

I always wonder if it was this double-fixity (Aquarius/Scorpio) that led
in the end to simple exhaustion. I would have killed myself with the
search if I hadn't simply run out of steam and had a breakdown. That at
least enabled me to wipe the slate clean and start again.

>However, even for the lower Scorpio, sex is not the sole goal. It is the
>merging that happens within the act of sex.

I could have done with you around a few years ago. ;-)

I feel in essence that Scorpio seeks a spiritual union of some sort, and
it just happens to seek it through sex. To merge with that flow of real
emotion, to feel that it belongs. Sex isn't the sole goal, but it is the
means to achieve a union that allows the sexual energy to form a healthy
circuit and flow.

>Just as a note, I used to take a martial arts class where we practiced certain
>techiniques to merge our center with our opponent and either throw or pin them.
> It was a beautiful circular motion in every technique focused on becoming one
>with the other person's force of energy and using that to nullify their attack.
> Practice was always a sexual experience for me. Not in the way that it is
>exciting and to the point of orgasm, but in the way that I felt that
>physical/spiritual connection with the person I was working with. There was
>that complete connection happening, much like what happens for the Scorpio and
>sex, and it felt like I had intimatly known every person I practiced with.
>That is the way sex feels too us, whether it be through love or plain "just for
>the sake of sex" sex.

Yes, spiritual union. Your martial arts story illustrates it perfectly.
Achieving a fusion of energy with another opens the circuit, whether
it's physical sex or something completely different.

--
drew

drew

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In article <8c273488.0210...@posting.google.com>, Sarah
<dream...@aol.com> writes

>Hey Drew!
> Well, my fiance is a capricorn also, with aqaurius rising and libra
>moon. So we both have libra in common (my rising) He is pretty aloof
>too but his libra moon really helps him to be a great listener and the
>desire to have a good relationship. He's my soulmate. Also, we have
>a 6mo old boy named Aliester (Aries sun, Aquarius moon, Sag rising)
>We both love to travel, and I'm thinking my son will too with his Sag
>rising.

My son has a Sagittarius personality too. He's 8 now and I never met
anyone so focussed on the Now Moment as him. It's great. He has no
concept of tomorrow, just like he has no concept of the next minute. All
that matters to him is what is happening *now*, and how he can best
utilize it bring joy. I hope he can hold this trait when society tries
to force him to accept its burdens and responsibilities. He'll have to
temper it with practicality, of course, to survive, but it's still a
wonderful trait.

>Oh my God, I just realized that I actually worked with a guy
>who was a capricorn, moon in scorpio, cancer rising!! If he was
>insecure, it didn't show at all, and I always admired his work ethic,
>his morals and dignity. Maybe it's different for men.

I don't know. We generalize about these things, but it's the chart as a
whole that matters in the end. Different aspects focus energies in
different ways.

>
>My mom and sister are aquarians just like you, except my mom has a
>virgo moon and she's really nit picky, my sister is the complete
>opposite with a pisces moon (did the whole drugs thing) and they do
>NOT get along. If you want to know insecure meet her!

Well, the Moon in Pisces is very sensitive anyway. My Sagittarius Rising
son has it, as does my mother, so I've seen how the slightest thing cuts
them to the quick, and how just as fast they hide it.

>However, all
>of us girls in the house have libra rising. My brother and dad both
>have scorpio rising.

That's an interesting mix! I have visions of the Librans working away on
the overt atmosphere of the house, and the Scorpios working on the
covert atmosphere!

>Interesting to me how it worked out. With all
>the libra in the house, it makes it really peaceful.. people actually
>say its either dull or relaxing.

My house contains two Scorpio Rising, a Cancer Rising, a Sagittarius
Rising and an Aries Rising -- and it's far from peaceful! ;-)

>Isn't astrology the wierdest thing?

It sure is.

>I really would like to know how
>it works exactly and why.

I don't know. I view the natal chart as our unique energy signature. A
frozen moment in universal time that defines our potential, but I don't
know if that's accepted wisdom or not, it's just how I look at it.

>But rising signs are really strange. I mean, the exact time
>you were born, how does that have an effect.

Martin Schulman describes it (in those *excellent* books Christine
pointed me to) as the sign rising on the horizon at birth and thus
'coloring' the personality for life.

And I got Scorpio. Ah, never mind. ;-)

drew

ninjaking

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Speaking of all this Scorpionic Talk, I always wonder why I feel I
have such a Scorpionic component to my personality(I'm a virgo sun,
pisces moon). I mean Pluto is in my 1st house, but that seems to be
the only strong Pluto connection in my horoscope.

But definetely physically I look like a scorpio, and people always
mention my intense penetrating eyes. And intensity is the very
essence of me. Allot of that has been channeled through my martial
arts training, which actually tends to make me more chilled out in the
social scene since I get that animalistic intensity out of my system.

Adel Ather
August 30th, 1977
Karachi, Pakistan

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Sarah

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drew <dr...@scorpio518.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<19$lnMAV1...@scorpio518.freeserve.co.uk>...

> In article <8c273488.0210...@posting.google.com>, Sarah
> <dream...@aol.com> writes
> >Hey Drew!
> > Well, my fiance is a capricorn also, with aqaurius rising and libra
> >moon. So we both have libra in common (my rising) He is pretty aloof
> >too but his libra moon really helps him to be a great listener and the
> >desire to have a good relationship. He's my soulmate. Also, we have
> >a 6mo old boy named Aliester (Aries sun, Aquarius moon, Sag rising)
> >We both love to travel, and I'm thinking my son will too with his Sag
> >rising.
>
> I hope he can hold this trait when society tries
> to force him to accept its burdens and responsibilities. He'll have to
> temper it with practicality, of course, to survive, but it's still a
> wonderful trait.
>
> >Oh my God, I just realized that I actually worked with a guy
> >who was a capricorn, moon in scorpio, cancer rising!! If he was
> >insecure, it didn't show at all, and I always admired his work ethic,
> >his morals and dignity. Maybe it's different for men.
>
> I don't know. We generalize about these things, but it's the chart as a
> whole that matters in the end. Different aspects focus energies in
> different ways.
>
> >
> >My mom and sister are aquarians just like you, except my mom has a
> >virgo moon and she's really nit picky, my sister is the complete
> >opposite with a pisces moon (did the whole drugs thing) and they do
> >NOT get along. If you want to know insecure meet her!
>
> Well, the Moon in Pisces is very sensitive anyway. My Sagittarius Rising
> son has it, as does my mother, so I've seen how the slightest thing cuts
> them to the quick, and how just as fast they hide it.
>
> >However, all
> >of us girls in the house have libra rising. My brother and dad both
> >have scorpio rising.
>
> > >Interesting to me how it worked out. With all
> >the libra in the house, it makes it really peaceful.. people actually
> >say its either dull or relaxing.
>
> My house contains two Scorpio Rising, a Cancer Rising, a Sagittarius
> Rising and an Aries Rising -- and it's far from peaceful! ;-)
>
> >Isn't astrology the wierdest thing?
>
> It sure is.
>
> >I really would like to know how
> >it works exactly and why.
>
> >
> >But rising signs are really strange. I mean, the exact time
> >you were born, how does that have an effect.
>
> Martin Schulman describes it (in those *excellent* books Christine
> pointed me to) as the sign rising on the horizon at birth and thus
> 'coloring' the personality for life.
>
> And I got Scorpio. Ah, never mind. ;-)
>
> drew

My son has a Sagittarius personality too. He's 8 now and I never met


> anyone so focussed on the Now Moment as him. It's great. He has no
> concept of tomorrow, just like he has no concept of the next minute. All
> that matters to him is what is happening *now*, and how he can best
> utilize it bring joy.

I love that about people, I hope my son is like that too.

I don't know. I view the natal chart as our unique energy signature. A
> frozen moment in universal time that defines our potential, but I don't
> know if that's accepted wisdom or not, it's just how I look at it.

I like how you said that, I would of course agree. It's hard to
define in a way

That's an interesting mix! I have visions of the Librans working away
on
> the overt atmosphere of the house, and the Scorpios working on the
> covert atmosphere!
>

It is like that!
Having a libra rising makes me only want beauty surrounding me. I
love anything beautiful, delicious, and peaceful. I love love too. I
really enjoy hanging with just one other person, not a bunch of people
unless it's a party or something. So would you describe yourself as
extroverted or introverted?? I am extroverted, but at a younger age
definitely introverted.

V.D.A

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Oct 16, 2002, 11:05:47 PM10/16/02
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Libra moons are dolls of convenient detachement.
I have scorp moon and have given libra moons a try in
relationships.They have cute smiles, their flow
and bodily movements has a natural grace,and they speak with intellect
and sentiment. The scorp moon might think it's a mirror of their own
emotions,deep and all consuming as they are. Of course the Libra moon
isn't ready for that. When getting closer the powertrips might begin as it's
getting colder and distant for the scorp moon. Libra moon doesn't like
behavior like that, and smart as it is, it knows what scorps are trying to
do and feels bulldozed. They could start to avoid the scorp moon,
treating it like wallpaper,which of course drives the scorp moon over the
edge! (or venus in scorp for that matter). Nothing is more frustrating to
scorp moons than air moons.Aquariuan moons is the exception as their passion
for human beings can resemble the scorps passion. Libra moons
will do anything to not disturb their harmony, getting mad included.
And yes, they do tell you where the closet is going to stand, and
the scorp moon feels even less appreciated. The obsession could
really take new dimensions for the scorp moon because of this
technical attitude of the Libra moon. But I happen to know that
when scorp moon is 'well behaved', the Libra moon finds him
extremely sexy! But the intellectualizations of feelings and not
getting too close, can never be applied to scorp moons.

Veronica

V.D.A

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"Zale Taurus" <exactti...@yahoo.com> skrev i melding
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> prtam...@aol.com (Prtam14852) wrote many things in message
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> >
Does anybody think scorpios can enjoy sex like Taurus can? Or
are their minds just too active so to speak? I wonder about that.
Tauruses really endulges and worships the sensations, plain and
simple, whereas the scorpios can hate whilst doing it and so on.
Can they ever just relax and enjoy is what I'm getting at..

Veronica


Raymond

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Oct 17, 2002, 6:49:41 PM10/17/02
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with Scorpio's ruler Pluto in 1st house, Pluto is a strong influence
in your chart. Any planet in 1st house is strong because the 1st house
is the house of self. I have Pluto in 1st too, and I look Scorpionic.
I also have Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio as well as Sun
contraparallel Pluto and Moon quincunx Pluto. My Sun conjunct/parallel
Black Moon seems Scorpionic too...maybe even my Sun conjunct Ixion.

Ray

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Nohar

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"V.D.A" <vero...@frisurf.no> wrote in message news:<fgnr9.6882$jS5.1...@news2.ulv.nextra.no>...

Veronica,

Scorpios enjoy their own sense of sexual control while the partner loses it,totally.
That is good sex for Scorpio.
Atleast,that is my concept of things.

Nohar

V.D.A

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"Nohar" <no...@volcanomail.com> skrev i melding
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okey, are you a scorp?
V
>

Nohar

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"V.D.A" <vero...@frisurf.no> wrote in message news:<MLBs9.2090$QT5....@news2.ulv.nextra.no>...

> "Nohar" <no...@volcanomail.com> skrev i melding
> >
> > Scorpios enjoy their own sense of sexual control while the partner loses
> it,totally.
> > That is good sex for Scorpio.
> > Atleast,that is my concept of things.
> >
> > Nohar
>
> okey, are you a scorp?
> V


unfortunately,yes

nohar

> >

V.D.A

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"Nohar" <no...@volcanomail.com> skrev i melding
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unfortunaltely?

v

Nohar

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> "Nohar" <no...@volcanomail.com> skrev i melding
> news:cffb75b4.02102...@posting.google.com...
> > "V.D.A" <vero...@frisurf.no> wrote in message
> news:<MLBs9.2090$QT5....@news2.ulv.nextra.no>...
> > > "Nohar" <no...@volcanomail.com> skrev i melding
> > > >
> > > > Scorpios enjoy their own sense of sexual control while the partner
> loses
> it,totally.
> > > > That is good sex for Scorpio.
> > > > Atleast,that is my concept of things.
> > > >
> > > > Nohar
> > >
> > > okey, are you a scorp?
> > > V
> >
> >
> > unfortunately,yes
> >
> > nohar
> >
> >
> >
> unfortunaltely?
>

LOL
That's very cheeky :-)

take care

nohar

> v

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"Nohar" <no...@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
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> "V.D.A" <vero...@frisurf.no> wrote in message
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> > "Nohar" <no...@volcanomail.com> skrev i melding
> > >
> > > Scorpios enjoy their own sense of sexual control while the partner
loses
> > it,totally.
> > > That is good sex for Scorpio.
-- agree

> > > Atleast,that is my concept of things.
> > >
> > > Nohar
> >
> > okey, are you a scorp?
> > V
>
>
> unfortunately,yes
-- why, unfortunately? It's called the Generalissimo of the Zodiac, has
great inner strength, etc., etc....
cheers, D B
>
> nohar
>
>
>
> > >
>
>

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