On Feb 2, 3:31 pm, markusp <
markina...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 26, 8:47 pm, Anthony Marsh <
anthony.ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
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> > On 1/25/2012 10:08 PM, markusp wrote:
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> > > On Jan 24, 8:59 am, David Von Pein<
davevonp...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > >> also keep pretending that the forward movement of JFK's head at the
> > >> precise instant of the head shot means nothing too.
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> > > Apparently then you are of the opinion that a missile striking him
> > > from above& behind moved his head slightly forward. I agree. Do you
> > > get the same conclusion regarding JFK's upper torso moving forward at
> > > the precise instant of Z230?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-hrPPy6fgI&context=C338bbf2ADOEgsToPD...
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> > > ~Mark
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> > I don't see JFK moving forward at Z-230. Are you thinking that a bullet
> > hit him then? Where did the bullet go. He hands are up in front of his
> > throat then.
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> The slow motion tends to mask the abrupt forward movement of JFK's upper
> torso, which then causes his chin to raise. Starting precisely at Z230,
> this movement ends at precisely 234. This movement is appreciable, due in
> part to learning that a missile striking a human body will indeed cause it
> to move slightly in the same direction. That effect will not be as
> pronounced as what Hollywood would have us believe.
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That is true but it is not the only thing that can cause a body to move.
How do you determine that the slight forward movement is a bullet strike
and not simply the continuation of JFK's reaction to be shot once less
than a half second earlier.
> So the fleeting movement wasn't even noticed by anyone until Robert Groden
> started rotoscoping the film and the resulting stabilization and slow
> motion versions showed that something happens to JFK at Z230.
Anything that has Robert Groden as its source is dubious from the get- go.
Groden is a buffoon. The guy has been milking JFK's assassination for all
it is worth for over 35 years and hasn't contributed one valuable piece of
information. Quite a bit of misinformation however.
> I'm not
> convinced whatsoever that this is a neuromuscular delay. It sure looks to
> me like he gets shot in the back at 230. If that is correct, then
> automatic default to conspiracy.
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That would be true but since there is no hard evidence of a bullet
strike at Z230, there is no hard evidence of a conspiracy.
> The bullet went in about an inch, lodged there, and worked its way back
> out of the wound in the drive to PH, or on the gurney at PH.
Oh boy, here we go again. What kind of bullet only penetrates an inch into
soft tissue? Jack Ruby's relatively low powered .38 went all the way
through Oswald's abdomen and bulged out his left side. Even if there was
such weak ammunition, why would anyone who was trying to kill JFK use such
an ineffective round?
> It was likely
> in JFK's shirt, and is known to all of us as CE399. This theory lends at
> least a semblance of common sense and rationality, versus any SBT I've
> encountered.
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If you are claiming it was CE399 that only penetrated that far, you have a
real problem. I've read that the 6.5mm round will penetrate anywhere from
2 to 4 feet of pine board. How is such a round going to stop after only
going one inch into soft tissue. Sorry, that does not compute.
> In response to your anticipated question of where the shooter would have
> been located to issue the frontal throat wound, my answer is, and has
> always been, I don't know.
The problem with your theory is that you can't even give us a
possibility.
> Allow me to ask yet another basic question,
> Tony:
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> Is it possible that JFK's throat wound resembled an entry site, but may
> not have been caused by a missile? To your knowledge, were there any pens,
> or other devices, that may have impaled his throat when he slumped down in
> the limo?
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Now there's a stretch!!!
You're working way to hard to avoid the obvious answer. CE399 went through
JFK from back to front, went through JBC from back to front, smashed his
wrist and imbedded in his thigh. Simply. Straight forward. And requires no
suspension of physical laws.