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Oswald nicknamed "the butt-twister"

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Peter Fokes

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Jul 31, 2008, 11:27:47 AM7/31/08
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from Darwin Payne's notebook

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I went to Oswald's rooming house ... I talked to some of the people
who had rooms there and had them describe Oswald to me. They knew him
as O.H. Lee... talked to the woman who managed the rooming house, and
she told me about Oswald. She was a little bit tender about saying
this. She said, "We described him as the butt-twister, because when he
would get up to go to the telephone or maybe to get up to adjust the
TV, he would twist his butt in a funny way. He had a funny walk."

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Ruby in a ladies' bathing cap and Oswald with his funny butt-twist!

What a pair!

Infamous!


PF

David Von Pein

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Jul 31, 2008, 8:44:07 PM7/31/08
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>>> "Ruby in a ladies' bathing cap and Oswald with his funny butt-twist!
What a pair!" <<<


This is one of the ways a CTer goes about solving the JFK, J.D. Tippit,
and LHO murder cases -- by bringing up meaningless stuff like Oswald's
butt twist and something about Ruby in a bathing cap (huh???).

That kind of discussion is bound to bring clarity to the three murders
mentioned.

Right, CTers?

JLeyd...@aol.com

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Jul 31, 2008, 9:43:09 PM7/31/08
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Yeah, VP, and he calls Oswald & Ruby "a pair," too. I guess he knows
more than he's telling us.

JGL

John McAdams

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Jul 31, 2008, 10:54:26 PM7/31/08
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:27:47 -0400, Peter Fokes<jp...@toronto.hm>
wrote:

Where is Darwin Payne's notebook? Is it online? Published?

.John
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Peter Fokes

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Aug 1, 2008, 12:39:56 PM8/1/08
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Darwin Payne likely has Darwin Payne's notebook.

Payne was a reporter for the Dallas Times Herald. He covered breaking
news on the JFK assassination. He is now a professor emeritus of
communications at SMU. He has written a number of books including
"Reporting the Kennedy Assassination: Journalists Who Were There
Recall Their Experiences" (Three Forks Press, 1996). The book is
available from Three Forks Press for $10:

http://www.3forkspress.com/authors.asp?id=5

His latest article (non JFK-related):

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/viewpoints/stories/DN-payne_26edi.ART.State.Edition1.4dda009.html


Payne was interviewed on Feb. 15, 2003 by authors Cathy Trost and
Susan Bennett. They provide direct and lengthy excerpts from Payne's
notebook in their 2003 book "President Kennedy Has Been Shot." Facts
in the notebook were recorded at the time Payne was covering the
assassination, and interviewing sources.
I believe Barb J also has a copy of this book.


According to this cover on the book, Cathy is a former reporter for
the Wall St. Journal and UPI. She wrote "Running Toward Danger:
Stories Behind the Breaking News of 9/11." She was the founding
director of the Casey Journalism Center on Children and Families at
the Philip Merrill College of Journalism at the University of
Maryland.

Susan Bennett is the director of International Exhibits and the
Newseum. She is a veteran editor and reporter. She was an editor and
writer on USA Today's editorial page as well as national correspondent
for Knight-Ridder newspapers and a bureau chief and state editor for
UPI.

>.John
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Peter Fokes,
Toronto

Anthony Marsh

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Aug 1, 2008, 9:00:23 PM8/1/08
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Jeez, what the Hell are you talking about? Why would someone like Darwin
Payne comply with the JFK Records Act and turn in his notebook? Maybe you
are thinking of a real reporter like Seth Kantor. Payne is part of the
cover-up.

> .John
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David Von Pein

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Aug 2, 2008, 12:26:21 AM8/2/08
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>>> "Payne is part of the cover-up." <<<


Darwin Payne, Ruth Paine, Michael Paine, and Dave Von Pein (my name's
actually pronounced PINE, but it's usually mangled into PAIN) -- all part
of the evil "cover-up" imagined out of whole cloth by conspiracy- happy
individuals like Mr. Marsh.

Right, Tony?

Thanks for today's:
<chuckle>

Peter Fokes

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Aug 2, 2008, 12:15:11 PM8/2/08
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On 1 Aug 2008 21:00:23 -0400, Anthony Marsh
<anthon...@comcast.net> wrote:

Don't be silly, Tony.

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>> .John
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PF

Anthony Marsh

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Aug 2, 2008, 11:28:13 PM8/2/08
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As I said before you have to separate the conspiracy to murder from the
conspiracy to cover up. Only a handful of people were part of the
conspiracy to murder. Thousands are part of the conspiracy to cover up.

David Von Pein

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Aug 3, 2008, 7:07:53 PM8/3/08
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>>> "Thousands are part of the conspiracy to cover up." <<<


Somebody ought to tell those "thousands" (and Tony) that there was
nothing to "cover up".....because the raw evidence that was collected
in 1963 shows that Lee Harvey Oswald murdered JFK on his own.

And nothing Tony Marsh (or anyone) says can change that most basic of
all facts.

Anthony Marsh

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Aug 4, 2008, 10:53:27 PM8/4/08
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David Von Pein wrote:
>
>
>>>> "Thousands are part of the conspiracy to cover up." <<<
>
>
> Somebody ought to tell those "thousands" (and Tony) that there was
> nothing to "cover up".....because the raw evidence that was collected
> in 1963 shows that Lee Harvey Oswald murdered JFK on his own.
>

Too late. They were all told it was a conspiracy.

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