German Babushka Lady candidate?
Dave Reitzes
Weisberg, 1976), p. 288:
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DE 62-5330
DL 89-43 Other Individuals and Organizations
LMC/ck/pam - 1 Involved or Interviewed
Re: Unidentified Woman who allegedly obtained movie film of the
Assassination of President JOHN F. KENNEDY
On December 5, 1963, a woman who refused to give her name, telephonically
contacted the Detroit Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and
advised that she had taken 16 millimeter colored movies of the
assassination of President JOHN F. KENNEDY on November 22, 1963, at
Dallas, Texas, and stated that these movies had turned out better than the
pictures published in "Life" magazine. She advised that she would mail
these movies to the Detroit Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
This woman advised that she was a graduate student at the University of
Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, working towards a Ph.D. degree. She said
she is a State Department exchange student from West Berlin, Germany, and
said that she was then leaving immediately for Germany. This unidentified
woman also stated that she had a sister in Dallas that she had been
visiting at the time of the assassination.
On December 5, 1963, ABRAHAM ADAMS, Assistant Counselor, International
Institute, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, advised SA J. RAYMOND
COGHLAN that he is responsible for all German students at the University
of Michigan and that none of these German students are working for a Ph.D.
degree and that he knows of none who have relatives in Texas.
On December 6, 1963, Mr. ROBERT DEVLIN, Immigration and Naturalization
Service, Detroit, made available to SA MELVILLE H. SHANNON and SA THOMAS
J. ROBINSON copies of 83 INS forms I-53, Alien Address Forms. A review of
these INS forms I-53 failed to indicate any which might refer to the
unknown woman.
On December 6, 1963, Mr. MARTIN HAYDEN, Editor, "Detroit News" advised
Special Agent in Charge BERNARD C. BROWN that ROBERT LUBECK, Feature
Editor, "Detroit News", had received a call on December 5, 1963, from a
woman who said she had some films of the assassination which were better
than the ones in "Life" magazine.
On December 7, 1963, Mr. ROBERT LUBECK, 1311 Cadieux, Grosse Pointe,
Michigan, advised SA LAWRENCE M. COOPER, JR., that at about 4:30 P.M.,
December 5, 1963, he had received a telephone call from a woman who said
she was Mrs. BECK, from Lincoln Park, Michigan, a "Detroit News"
subscriber who refused to identify herself further. Mr. LUBECK advised
that this woman said she had some 16 millimeter color film which was taken
of the assassination and which had been taken from the overpass in Dallas,
Texas, and which she said was better than "Life" magazine pictures. She
said she would bring the film to the "Detroit News" personally.
Mr. LUBECK advised that to-date the film had not been received by the
"Detroit News" and he further advised that a check of the subscribers to
that newspaper had not revealed anyone who could possibly be identical
with the woman who had called him.
Additional investigation is being conducted concerning Mrs. BECK,
mentioned above.
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Intriguing, but the pattern of the sudden spurt of attention-grabbing
phone calls and subsequent failure to follow through sounds all too
familiar.
Dave
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Lisa Pease
Huh ? How would an "assistant counselor" know that not one out of
10,000 graduate students recently got off a Munich - originating plane
at the Davey Terminal in Detroit International Airport ? Has anyone
here ever asked an academic advisor at a university or college if he
or she gets the goods on students from the admissions office ? They
don't. They are busy with what's going on now: like the fact that
Helga needs to turn in her proposal for her PhD dissertation by May
10. The counselors and advisers can't say off the tops of their heads
that not a single student goes back to Germany for the summer. The
counselor is focusing on what he's gonna do in the summer.
It goes without saying that university faculty members don't know and
don't care if any student * has relatives in Texas. * Somebody who
thinks they do should visit an "assistant counsellor" in Ann Arbor,
and I mean now or pretty soon. The State Department might know if one
of their exchange students has relatives somewhere, but they only
would know about the relatives that the student tells them about.
People have lots of relatives.
>
> On December 6, 1963, Mr. ROBERT DEVLIN, Immigration and Naturalization
> Service, Detroit, made available to SA MELVILLE H. SHANNON and SA THOMAS
> J. ROBINSON copies of 83 INS forms I-53, Alien Address Forms. A review of
> these INS forms I-53 failed to indicate any which might refer to the
> unknown woman.
>
> On December 6, 1963, Mr. MARTIN HAYDEN, Editor, "Detroit News" advised
> Special Agent in Charge BERNARD C. BROWN that ROBERT LUBECK, Feature
> Editor, "Detroit News", had received a call on December 5, 1963, from a
> woman who said she had some films of the assassination which were better
> than the ones in "Life" magazine.
>
> On December 7, 1963, Mr. ROBERT LUBECK, 1311 Cadieux, Grosse Pointe,
> Michigan, advised SA LAWRENCE M. COOPER, JR., that at about 4:30 P.M.,
> December 5, 1963, he had received a telephone call from a woman who said
> she was Mrs. BECK, from Lincoln Park, Michigan, a "Detroit News"
> subscriber who refused to identify herself further. Mr. LUBECK advised
> that this woman said she had some 16 millimeter color film which was taken
> of the assassination and which had been taken from the overpass in Dallas,
> Texas, and which she said was better than "Life" magazine pictures. She
> said she would bring the film to the "Detroit News" personally.
>
> Mr. LUBECK advised that to-date the film had not been received by the
> "Detroit News" and he further advised that a check of the subscribers to
> that newspaper had not revealed anyone who could possibly be identical
> with the woman who had called him.
Illogical. Have you ever met anyone who works in the circulation
department of a newspaper ? Do they know if XYZ customer at 123 Main
Street has a throaty voice or a high whining voice or a German accent
or a southern one ? Hint: George Orwell's "1984" is fiction.
>
> Additional investigation is being conducted concerning Mrs. BECK,
> mentioned above.
>
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>
>
> Intriguing, but the pattern of the sudden spurt of attention-grabbing
> phone calls and subsequent failure to follow through sounds all too
> familiar.
Maybe the staff of the Detroit News told the young fraulein, "Don't
call us, we'll call you." Maybe the FBI agent did same. Why didn't
she keep pushing ? Why didn't she buy a plane ticket to Washington
and run around Capitol Hill with her movie ? Here's a possible
answer. Maybe she had a life. Maybe she went to a University of
Michigan graduate school (there are many, and we don't know which one)
to get her "MRS degree." Many females in the United States and other
light - skinned nations used that expression during that era. Maybe
she said "yes" to a man, or he said "yes" to her and maybe she then
decided that it's stupid to let a rejection from two strangers on the
telephone disrupt her exciting wedding plans. Who will throw the
rice?
Underlying the entire contents of this document typed by Mr. Reitzes
is the fact that J. Edgar Hoover, the boss of the FBI agent who blew
off the German woman on the phone and the boss of everyone who read
the memo, has been exposed as a pathological liar and scam artist. He
lied to Martin Luther King when he suggested that it's a good idea to
commit suicide. He lied when he said your next-door neighbor could be
a communist and that poses a threat to you. He lied when he said
squabbling Italian families don't close ranks to extort money from
truck drivers, garment manufacturers and Pepsi Cola. J. Edgar Hoover
was a pathological liar.
There is a movement underway to rename the FBI Headquarters building
in Washington, DC so that it isn't named after a liar. Supporters of
the movement include two Washington Post columnists: Richard Cohen
and Colbert King. The Washington Post isn't a conspiracy magazine,
and Richard Cohen rarely has mentioned the Kennedy family in his
column that he started writing after John and Robert died. This
A-level movement to rename a Washington, DC building undermines the
credibility of every single document pored over by JFK assassination
researchers. Talk about wasting time.
twalsh
would have been with her at Dealey, but the Babushka Lady seemed to be
alone. I guess it's possible her sister was working that day or
standing somewhere else, but then you would have had someone in Dallas
who knew the Babushka Lady which should have made it easier to
identify her.
Also, the report that the film "had been taken from the overpass in
Dallas" doesn't seem to fit the Babushka Lady either.
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