Sitzman Puts the Head Wound on the Right Side

[John McAdams]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-1c323jlvE&ytsession=eO-h6j3kN7nNAnF1fon33Co8Q6138mY9yA7eCgfBNb2W1AWgpNv-Rgttc9CW0PJMnAf7TPb31ZoFAQriHxhjBNLsTXbWB25vy0bSyGRVEHnwIO5VXx0uruORqSyIy3vh-v2uTelappltrqY_aFbVz723GfnAnmk7vYjq-hWqDC0Im1re4MwuBZj2ae-g7OgiAyOAGXCERfR9z79JtZlxYQX6-h4EoUj6zjD7QYDR-cxn3sbv8gkIi7AXNb0Y-7NyLz712jywh4SAh3g71juJSGFvRXBuNzJtNuBahzXm4qt49iNhcBTfFk7vKSwl1XObYG4CO6fGYWE

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

[David Von Pein]

JOHN McADAMS SAID:

[Marilyn] Sitzman puts the head wound on the right side [of President
Kennedy's head].


DAVID VON PEIN SAID:

Other witnesses who also said that the wound was located on the RIGHT SIDE
of John F. Kennedy's head--not in the back of the head include:

Abe Zapruder...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MhvGLTl6Hwk/UMdhUb2p-UI/AAAAAAAAlB8/gDCygWqcGbM/s1600/WFAA-044.png


Bill Newman...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8Dwjiv5TRqc/UxNQnaa4TdI/AAAAAAAAyCo/nFIFXDXkinA/s1600/William-Newman-July-10-2003.png


and Gayle Newman...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kIduxzhhbiY/UMdb3p78ZxI/AAAAAAAAk-c/dgoXNBDAYyg/s1600/WFAA-017.png

[Mark Florio]

On Saturday, September 27, 2014 8:29:21 PM UTC-5, John McAdams wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-1c323jlvE&ytsession=eO-h6j3kN7nNAnF1fon33Co8Q6138mY9yA7eCgfBNb2W1AWgpNv-Rgttc9CW0PJMnAf7TPb31ZoFAQriHxhjBNLsTXbWB25vy0bSyGRVEHnwIO5VXx0uruORqSyIy3vh-v2uTelappltrqY_aFbVz723GfnAnmk7vYjq-hWqDC0Im1re4MwuBZj2ae-g7OgiAyOAGXCERfR9z79JtZlxYQX6-h4EoUj6zjD7QYDR-cxn3sbv8gkIi7AXNb0Y-7NyLz712jywh4SAh3g71juJSGFvRXBuNzJtNuBahzXm4qt49iNhcBTfFk7vKSwl1XObYG4CO6fGYWE
>
>
>
> .John

She was a good woman who never grabbed for the CT false fame and money.
She told the truth, and died too young (1993). Mark Florio.

[Mike]

Well it is pretty simple...

If the HSCA is correct and there was a shot from the Grassy Knoll then
Sitzman (and Zapruder) are/were lying.

Sitzman wants us to believe that the only sound that caused both her and
Zapruder to react was the breaking of a coke bottle.

Sitzman was never called by either the Warren Commission or the HSCA to
testify.

She has never given testimony under oath in this case to my knowledge.

Even after Zapruder had died and she was the only surviving witness from
the "pedestal" the HSCA still did not call her to rebut the acoustic
evidence.

[Robert Harris]

David Von Pein wrote:
> JOHN McADAMS SAID:
>
> [Marilyn] Sitzman puts the head wound on the right side [of President
> Kennedy's head].
>
>
> DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
>
> Other witnesses who also said that the wound was located on the RIGHT SIDE
> of John F. Kennedy's head--not in the back of the head

I guess there was no wound in the back or neck either, since your
witnesses didn't say there was:-)

Fortunately, Dr. Boswell got a better look at the wounds than your
witnesses did. This is from his ARRB testimony,

"There was a big wound sort of transverse up like this from left
posterior to right anterior...

Q. When you say the left posterior, what do you mean?

A. The left occipital area, and that wound extends to the right frontal
area."

And lest their be any remaining doubt,

http://jfkhistory.com/337.jpg


Robert Harris

[John McAdams]

On 28 Sep 2014 16:57:21 -0400, Robert Harris <bobha...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>David Von Pein wrote:
>> JOHN McADAMS SAID:
>>
>> [Marilyn] Sitzman puts the head wound on the right side [of President
>> Kennedy's head].
>>
>>
>> DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
>>
>> Other witnesses who also said that the wound was located on the RIGHT SIDE
>> of John F. Kennedy's head--not in the back of the head
>
>I guess there was no wound in the back or neck either, since your
>witnesses didn't say there was:-)
>

They weren't positioned to see that.

>Fortunately, Dr. Boswell got a better look at the wounds than your
>witnesses did. This is from his ARRB testimony,
>
>"There was a big wound sort of transverse up like this from left
>posterior to right anterior...
>
>Q. When you say the left posterior, what do you mean?
>
>A. The left occipital area, and that wound extends to the right frontal
>area."
>
>And lest their be any remaining doubt,
>
>http://jfkhistory.com/337.jpg
>
>

So you think the autopsy photos and x-rays are faked, right, Bob?

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

[Peter Makres]

It's obvious watching the Z-film that the wound is on the side of the
head.

[mainframetech]

She puts her hand up to her right temple where the triangular flap of
bone was sticking out in the autopsy photos. But, of course, that had
nothing to do with the small BULLET SIZED wound above and forward of that
which was the entry of the bullet that decimated the brain by passing
through to the rear and causing the blow out of the 'large hole' in the
BOH that 40+ witnesses saw.

From her position looking on to the side of the limo, she probably
didn't see all the brains, blood and fluids that blew out the BOH and
splattered motorcycle cop Bobby Hargis and that he mentioned in his sworn
testimony:

"Mr. HARGIS - Yes; when President Kennedy straightened back up in the car
the bullet him in the head, the one that killed him and it seemed like his
head exploded, and I was splattered with blood and brain, and kind of
bloody water, It wasn't really blood. And at that time the Presidential
car slowed down. I heard somebody say, "Get going," or "get going".

Bobby was riding just behind and to the left of the limousine until it
slowed down.

Chris

[mainframetech]

On Saturday, September 27, 2014 11:27:48 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:

With the triangular flap of bone popping out on the right side, I'm
sure that would give the impression that a bullet might have hit there.
But now in the case of Bill Newman, it turns out that the WC never wanted
to talk to him. He ha said that the shot that did the final damage came
from behind him, and that was the GK, not the TSBD.

Gayle Newman was also not asked to testify by the WC, but she also
thought the shot that did the job was from behind them on the GK.


Zapruder also thought the shot came from behind him, but was less sure
of it.


Thanks! A useful bit of information, or 3 more people that heard the
shot from the GK.

Chris

[BT George]

Good post John.

BT George

[cmikes]

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:07:34 PM UTC-4, Mike wrote:
> On 9/27/2014 8:29 PM, John McAdams wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-1c323jlvE&ytsession=eO-h6j3kN7nNAnF1fon33Co8Q6138mY9yA7eCgfBNb2W1AWgpNv-Rgttc9CW0PJMnAf7TPb31ZoFAQriHxhjBNLsTXbWB25vy0bSyGRVEHnwIO5VXx0uruORqSyIy3vh-v2uTelappltrqY_aFbVz723GfnAnmk7vYjq-hWqDC0Im1re4MwuBZj2ae-g7OgiAyOAGXCERfR9z79JtZlxYQX6-h4EoUj6zjD7QYDR-cxn3sbv8gkIi7AXNb0Y-7NyLz712jywh4SAh3g71juJSGFvRXBuNzJtNuBahzXm4qt49iNhcBTfFk7vKSwl1XObYG4CO6fGYWE
>
> >
>
> > .John
>
> > -----------------------
>
> > http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>
> >
>
>
>
> Well it is pretty simple...
>
>
>
> If the HSCA is correct and there was a shot from the Grassy Knoll then
>
> Sitzman (and Zapruder) are/were lying.
>

Exactly. The HSCA was not correct. Blakely's "hail mary" to keep the
conspiracy cause alive was debunked shortly after the publication of the
HSCA report.

[Mike]

The bullet struck the top of the head, ejected skull fragments and
EXITED the right temple area.

You can see the "protrusion" on the right side of the head.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iY-YMVoH9xc/UhDT-A6R4AI/AAAAAAAACKc/54di0yWcqSc/w833-h643-no/topofhead06resizedellipse2.gif

The Moorman photo shows that the bullet struck the "anterior" top of the
head.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6Slx_HUJkFI/UmFimJpF4LI/AAAAAAAACmA/Q3X1ixEijBQ/w766-h800-no/moormanfullheadcropnega.png


The two photos together tell us the bullet struck the top of the head
with from a left to right direction with a STRONG downward trajectory.

[Anthony Marsh]

On 9/28/2014 6:09 PM, mainframetech wrote:
> On Saturday, September 27, 2014 9:29:21 PM UTC-4, John McAdams wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-1c323jlvE&ytsession=eO-h6j3kN7nNAnF1fon33Co8Q6138mY9yA7eCgfBNb2W1AWgpNv-Rgttc9CW0PJMnAf7TPb31ZoFAQriHxhjBNLsTXbWB25vy0bSyGRVEHnwIO5VXx0uruORqSyIy3vh-v2uTelappltrqY_aFbVz723GfnAnmk7vYjq-hWqDC0Im1re4MwuBZj2ae-g7OgiAyOAGXCERfR9z79JtZlxYQX6-h4EoUj6zjD7QYDR-cxn3sbv8gkIi7AXNb0Y-7NyLz712jywh4SAh3g71juJSGFvRXBuNzJtNuBahzXm4qt49iNhcBTfFk7vKSwl1XObYG4CO6fGYWE
>>
>>
>>
>> .John
>>
>> -----------------------
>>
>> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>
>
>
> She puts her hand up to her right temple where the triangular flap of
> bone was sticking out in the autopsy photos. But, of course, that had
> nothing to do with the small BULLET SIZED wound above and forward of that
> which was the entry of the bullet that decimated the brain by passing
> through to the rear and causing the blow out of the 'large hole' in the
> BOH that 40+ witnesses saw.
>
> From her position looking on to the side of the limo, she probably
> didn't see all the brains, blood and fluids that blew out the BOH and
> splattered motorcycle cop Bobby Hargis and that he mentioned in his sworn
> testimony:
>

There was no hole on the BOH for all that brains, blood and fluids to
blow out. The X-rays show all the bones still in place.
Unless you think Jackie went out onto the trunk and retrieved a LARGE
piece of skull and did surgery to put it back into place.

[Anthony Marsh]

Not necessarily where the bullet exited. Just where the skull blew out.

[Robert Harris]

In article <a7ug2ad4l2t6k84sl...@4ax.com>,

Read the fucking article and educate yourself for once.

http://jfkhistory.com/LastShot2/BOHDamage.html

I have repeated this at least a dozen times in posts that you have to
read, in your position of what we loosely term, "moderator".

Nothing was "faked".

In the article, I cite Boswell verbatim, explaining that the reason the
BOH appears intact in some photos, was that he pulled the scalp up and
over the damaged, rear of the head. And we can easily seen his hand
gripping the scalp, exactly as he described.

READ THE ARTICLE!



Robert Harris

[John McAdams]

On 28 Sep 2014 21:44:50 -0400, Robert Harris <bobha...@yahoo.com>

The x-rays show the occipital bone intact also, Bob.

.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

[Anthony Marsh]

No need. All we need is experts to LIE about the evidence.
Tell everyone about the 6.5mm bullet fragment the "experts" saw on the
X=rays.

> .John
> -----------------------
> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>

[Mark Florio]

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:26:36 PM UTC-5, mainframetech wrote:
> On Saturday, September 27, 2014 11:27:48 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
>
> > JOHN McADAMS SAID:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > [Marilyn] Sitzman puts the head wound on the right side [of President
>
> >
>
> > Kennedy's head].
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Other witnesses who also said that the wound was located on the RIGHT SIDE
>
> >
>
> > of John F. Kennedy's head--not in the back of the head include:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Abe Zapruder...
>
> >
>
> > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MhvGLTl6Hwk/UMdhUb2p-UI/AAAAAAAAlB8/gDCygWqcGbM/s1600/WFAA-044.png
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Bill Newman...
>
> >
>
> > http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8Dwjiv5TRqc/UxNQnaa4TdI/AAAAAAAAyCo/nFIFXDXkinA/s1600/William-Newman-July-10-2003.png
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > and Gayle Newman...
>
> >
>
> > http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kIduxzhhbiY/UMdb3p78ZxI/AAAAAAAAk-c/dgoXNBDAYyg/s1600/WFAA-017.png
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> With the triangular flap of bone popping out on the right side, I'm
>
> sure that would give the impression that a bullet might have hit there.
>
> But now in the case of Bill Newman, it turns out that the WC never wanted
>
> to talk to him. He ha said that the shot that did the final damage came
>
> from behind him, and that was the GK, not the TSBD.
>

Are you confused or just typing your words in too loosely? By "hit there"
I assume you mean an entrance hit. Entrance hits cause bevels inward not
bone flaps popping out. BTW, how do you know a bone flap popped out,
since that's what the Z-film shows and we all know it was altered. Or are
you referring to autopsy photo 4 in Lifton's BEST EVIDENCE? Sorry those
were altered too. Mark Florio.

[Anthony Marsh]

Then why did she give an exclusive interview only to a conspiracy author
and never tell her story to the police or the FBI? Methinks Thou Doth
Protest Too Much.

[Anthony Marsh]

On 9/28/2014 7:40 PM, Mike wrote:
> On 9/28/2014 4:58 PM, Peter Makres wrote:
>> On Saturday, September 27, 2014 11:27:48 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
>>> JOHN McADAMS SAID:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [Marilyn] Sitzman puts the head wound on the right side [of President
>>>
>>> Kennedy's head].
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Other witnesses who also said that the wound was located on the RIGHT
>>> SIDE
>>>
>>> of John F. Kennedy's head--not in the back of the head include:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Abe Zapruder...
>>>
>>> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MhvGLTl6Hwk/UMdhUb2p-UI/AAAAAAAAlB8/gDCygWqcGbM/s1600/WFAA-044.png
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill Newman...
>>>
>>> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8Dwjiv5TRqc/UxNQnaa4TdI/AAAAAAAAyCo/nFIFXDXkinA/s1600/William-Newman-July-10-2003.png
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and Gayle Newman...
>>>
>>> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kIduxzhhbiY/UMdb3p78ZxI/AAAAAAAAk-c/dgoXNBDAYyg/s1600/WFAA-017.png
>>>
>>
>> It's obvious watching the Z-film that the wound is on the side of the
>> head.
>>
>
>
> The bullet struck the top of the head, ejected skull fragments and
> EXITED the right temple area.
>
> You can see the "protrusion" on the right side of the head.
>
> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iY-YMVoH9xc/UhDT-A6R4AI/AAAAAAAACKc/54di0yWcqSc/w833-h643-no/topofhead06resizedellipse2.gif
>
>
> The Moorman photo shows that the bullet struck the "anterior" top of the
> head.
>

You do realize, I hope, that anterior means FRONT?

> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6Slx_HUJkFI/UmFimJpF4LI/AAAAAAAACmA/Q3X1ixEijBQ/w766-h800-no/moormanfullheadcropnega.png
>
>
>
> The two photos together tell us the bullet struck the top of the head
> with from a left to right direction with a STRONG downward trajectory.
>

Your trajectory makes absolutely no sense. Diagram it for us.

>
>

[Anthony Marsh]

Do the X-rays also show a 6.5 mm bullet fragment in his head?

> .John
> -----------------------
> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>

[Anthony Marsh]

On 9/28/2014 11:50 PM, Mark Florio wrote:
> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 5:26:36 PM UTC-5, mainframetech wrote:
>> On Saturday, September 27, 2014 11:27:48 PM UTC-4, David Von Pein wrote:
>>
>>> JOHN McADAMS SAID:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> [Marilyn] Sitzman puts the head wound on the right side [of President
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Kennedy's head].
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Other witnesses who also said that the wound was located on the RIGHT SIDE
>>
>>>
>>
>>> of John F. Kennedy's head--not in the back of the head include:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Abe Zapruder...
>>
>>>
>>
>>> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MhvGLTl6Hwk/UMdhUb2p-UI/AAAAAAAAlB8/gDCygWqcGbM/s1600/WFAA-044.png
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Bill Newman...
>>
>>>
>>
>>> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8Dwjiv5TRqc/UxNQnaa4TdI/AAAAAAAAyCo/nFIFXDXkinA/s1600/William-Newman-July-10-2003.png
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> and Gayle Newman...
>>
>>>
>>
>>> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kIduxzhhbiY/UMdb3p78ZxI/AAAAAAAAk-c/dgoXNBDAYyg/s1600/WFAA-017.png
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> With the triangular flap of bone popping out on the right side, I'm
>>
>> sure that would give the impression that a bullet might have hit there.
>>
>> But now in the case of Bill Newman, it turns out that the WC never wanted
>>
>> to talk to him. He ha said that the shot that did the final damage came
>>
>> from behind him, and that was the GK, not the TSBD.
>>
>
> Are you confused or just typing your words in too loosely? By "hit there"
> I assume you mean an entrance hit. Entrance hits cause bevels inward not

You heard something, but don't know what it means. I suggest that you
actually study head wounds instead of repeating nonsense.

[Robert Harris]

That's nice.

So when can I expect you to retract your claim that there was no damage
in the BOH?



Robert Harris

[mainframetech]

There was a small triangular flap of bone there, seen in the autopsy
photos. It could easily have been what a few onlookers saw and thought
the damage was all on the right side. The real wound that was associated
with death was the blow-out at the BOH. There was also a small (5mm)
wound above and forward of the triangular flap that was about the right
size to be an entry wound. To cover it up in the autopsy photos they had
a 'patch' of some kind placed over it. To see the area, which was seen by
a number of witnesses, go to the following link and look at the photo
labeled 'Groden Superior':

http://jfklancer.com/photos/autopsy_slideshow/index.html

Chris

[mainframetech]

The article is incorrect. The article does what a few people have done,
by trying to say that Boswell had pulled the scalp over the wound and
hidden it. However, all the people that saw the wound at Parkland, and a
few at Bethesda saw a wound "the size of an orange" with MISSING scalp and
bone. There was nothing to pull over any wound. The photo is a fake made
for the suckers to shut them up about there being a frontal shot that
killed JFK. There is evidence from Jerrol Custer that an X-ray that he
took of the right side of the head showed a cone of fragments that
expanded toward the rear and (in my view) caused the blow-out at the BOH
seen by the 40+ witnesses.

To see the testimony of Jerrol Custer on the cone of fragments, go here
and read 'page 101':

https://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=68132

Chris

[mainframetech]

Correction. The 'large hole' in the BOH of JFK did NOT extend to the
"frontal" area. All testimony and statements from the 40+ witnesses had
that wound as a separate wound in the BOH, with very little extension into
the right parietal area. We must remember that Humes and Boswell were the
2 prosectors that damaged the body and extended the BOH wound around to
the side and top of the head BEFORE the 'official' autopsy, then tried to
hide that they had done it. Their word cannot be trusted.

The photo is also suspect since it comes from the Z-film, which has
been shown by witness and analysis to be altered:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAtEdEaXBtQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCigDMyHisE

Chris

[Mike]

I have marked on the x-ray two pieces of cracked skull.

What we see in Zapruder frame 337 is ....

The piece of skull on the top has slid down and over top of the bottom
piece of skull.

This is what Dr. Boswell is describing and what Harris is referring to.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5pKrA2xCHe0/U4dn6pUDn9I/AAAAAAAADf4/9OxgNEFj8tE/w450-h588-no/skull_overlap.jpg

[Mike]

The xray shows us the wound elaborates from top to bottom...

The xray shows us the bullet traveled downward.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5pKrA2xCHe0/U4dn6pUDn9I/AAAAAAAADf4/9OxgNEFj8tE/w450-h588-no/skull_overlap.jpg

[Mike]

On 9/29/2014 8:17 AM, Anthony Marsh wrote:

The trajectory of the bullet can be seen in zapruder frame 313...

It is the linear feature ....

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Nh6DQPwXijQ/UbkqGdHwIaI/AAAAAAAABbY/G2xlAe2bb04/w230-h171-no/z313j.jpg

[Anthony Marsh]

Silly. That's not the bullet. That's a bone fragment. You can't see a
bullet in flight with a Double 8mm movie camera running at 18.3 frames
per second.

[Anthony Marsh]

I have no idea what you think that means in English. Maybe you should
try it again in the original French.

The path of the fragments is not consistent with either the WC theory or
the HSCA theory.

http://www.the-puzzle-palace.com/rgbskull.gif

[mainframetech]

Correction. The 40+ witnesses that described the 'large hole' in the
BOH did NOT see a 'flap' of scalp that was handy to 'pull over the wound'.
The ones that described the wound started that the scalp and bone were
BOTH missing and brains were leaking out.

Chris

[bigdog]

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:07:34 PM UTC-4, Mike wrote:

> On 9/27/2014 8:29 PM, John McAdams wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-1c323jlvE&ytsession=eO-h6j3kN7nNAnF1fon33Co8Q6138mY9yA7eCgfBNb2W1AWgpNv-Rgttc9CW0PJMnAf7TPb31ZoFAQriHxhjBNLsTXbWB25vy0bSyGRVEHnwIO5VXx0uruORqSyIy3vh-v2uTelappltrqY_aFbVz723GfnAnmk7vYjq-hWqDC0Im1re4MwuBZj2ae-g7OgiAyOAGXCERfR9z79JtZlxYQX6-h4EoUj6zjD7QYDR-cxn3sbv8gkIi7AXNb0Y-7NyLz712jywh4SAh3g71juJSGFvRXBuNzJtNuBahzXm4qt49iNhcBTfFk7vKSwl1XObYG4CO6fGYWE
>
> >
>
> > .John
>

> > -----------------------
>
> > http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>
> Well it is pretty simple...
>
> If the HSCA is correct and there was a shot from the Grassy Knoll then
> Sitzman (and Zapruder) are/were lying.
>

False. The HSCA conclude that shot missed so it is irrelevant to the
question of where the wound was. Of course, the HSCA was wrong about a
shot from the GK. They got fooled by bad evidence.

>
> Sitzman wants us to believe that the only sound that caused both her and
> Zapruder to react was the breaking of a coke bottle.
>
> Sitzman was never called by either the Warren Commission or the HSCA to
> testify.
>

What was she supposed to testify to.

>
> She has never given testimony under oath in this case to my knowledge.
>

There are a lot of people who were in Dealey Plaza that day who were never
called to testify under oath. Only those people who the preliminary
investigation determined had something worth contributing were called to
testify.

>
> Even after Zapruder had died and she was the only surviving witness from
> the "pedestal" the HSCA still did not call her to rebut the acoustic
> evidence.

Why would they?

[Mike]

On 9/30/2014 3:16 PM, bigdog wrote:
> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:07:34 PM UTC-4, Mike wrote:
>> On 9/27/2014 8:29 PM, John McAdams wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-1c323jlvE&ytsession=eO-h6j3kN7nNAnF1fon33Co8Q6138mY9yA7eCgfBNb2W1AWgpNv-Rgttc9CW0PJMnAf7TPb31ZoFAQriHxhjBNLsTXbWB25vy0bSyGRVEHnwIO5VXx0uruORqSyIy3vh-v2uTelappltrqY_aFbVz723GfnAnmk7vYjq-hWqDC0Im1re4MwuBZj2ae-g7OgiAyOAGXCERfR9z79JtZlxYQX6-h4EoUj6zjD7QYDR-cxn3sbv8gkIi7AXNb0Y-7NyLz712jywh4SAh3g71juJSGFvRXBuNzJtNuBahzXm4qt49iNhcBTfFk7vKSwl1XObYG4CO6fGYWE
>>
>>>
>>
>>> .John
>>
>>> -----------------------
>>
>>> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>>
>> Well it is pretty simple...
>>
>> If the HSCA is correct and there was a shot from the Grassy Knoll then
>> Sitzman (and Zapruder) are/were lying.
>>
>
> False. The HSCA conclude that shot missed so it is irrelevant to the
> question of where the wound was. Of course, the HSCA was wrong about a
> shot from the GK. They got fooled by bad evidence.
>
>>

No. It is not FALSE.

Listen to her interview again.

She leaves no doubt that if a shot was fired from that close to her and
Zapruder she would have HEARD it.

It is irrelevant if it missed the target.

[Mike]

On 9/30/2014 3:16 PM, bigdog wrote:

Didn't you say you were a lawyer?

I am not going to play lawyer games with you.

You should be able to answer everyone of those questions you ask.

[mainframetech]

Watch the video of Sitzman. She still thinks that there was a shooter
behind here, which would be around the GK.

Chris

[Anthony Marsh]

On 9/30/2014 4:16 PM, bigdog wrote:
> On Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:07:34 PM UTC-4, Mike wrote:
>> On 9/27/2014 8:29 PM, John McAdams wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-1c323jlvE&ytsession=eO-h6j3kN7nNAnF1fon33Co8Q6138mY9yA7eCgfBNb2W1AWgpNv-Rgttc9CW0PJMnAf7TPb31ZoFAQriHxhjBNLsTXbWB25vy0bSyGRVEHnwIO5VXx0uruORqSyIy3vh-v2uTelappltrqY_aFbVz723GfnAnmk7vYjq-hWqDC0Im1re4MwuBZj2ae-g7OgiAyOAGXCERfR9z79JtZlxYQX6-h4EoUj6zjD7QYDR-cxn3sbv8gkIi7AXNb0Y-7NyLz712jywh4SAh3g71juJSGFvRXBuNzJtNuBahzXm4qt49iNhcBTfFk7vKSwl1XObYG4CO6fGYWE
>>
>>>
>>
>>> .John
>>
>>> -----------------------
>>
>>> http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm
>>
>> Well it is pretty simple...
>>
>> If the HSCA is correct and there was a shot from the Grassy Knoll then
>> Sitzman (and Zapruder) are/were lying.
>>
>
> False. The HSCA conclude that shot missed so it is irrelevant to the
> question of where the wound was. Of course, the HSCA was wrong about a
> shot from the GK. They got fooled by bad evidence.
>
>>
>> Sitzman wants us to believe that the only sound that caused both her and
>> Zapruder to react was the breaking of a coke bottle.
>>
>> Sitzman was never called by either the Warren Commission or the HSCA to
>> testify.
>>
>
> What was she supposed to testify to.

What happened on the grassy knoll. Why are you opposed to witnesses
testifying? Because they might accidentally tell the truth?
It was only by a witness mentioning something in passing. No one knew to
ask Smith about the fake Secret Service agent.

>
>>
>> She has never given testimony under oath in this case to my knowledge.
>>
>
> There are a lot of people who were in Dealey Plaza that day who were never
> called to testify under oath. Only those people who the preliminary
> investigation determined had something worth contributing were called to
> testify.
>

Or that they had something too dangerous to say.

>
>>
>> Even after Zapruder had died and she was the only surviving witness from
>> the "pedestal" the HSCA still did not call her to rebut the acoustic
>> evidence.
>
> Why would they?
>

How could she see the shooter behind her and to her right while she was
watching the limo?

>

[bigdog]

Of course they didn't see it. The flaps were closed making it appear the
upper right side of JFK's head was intact. Since nobody closely examined
or treated the head wound that would never have become apparent to anyone.
The only defect they saw was the hole left by the missing Harper fragment.
That was toward the back of the head but was just the tip of the much
larger blowout that went unnoticed at Parkland because the flaps were
closed.

[Anthony Marsh]

A lot of people say a lot of things on the Internet.

[Anthony Marsh]

No, it wasn't. Look at the HSCA diagram. You know that Jackie put the
head back together on the way to Parkland. Someone has a theory that she
retrieved a piece of skull from the trunk and put it back into place on
his head.

>

[mainframetech]

You've lost it again. A shame. The doctors and nurses in the ER knew
that if they began doing things they might endanger the patient without
knowing what major wounds they were dealing with. Most of them made sure
to see the 'large hole' in the BOH of JFK, and they also mentioned the
oozing brains and blood from that wound. Some of the doctors mentioned
that there were NO flaps of scalp that would cover the large wound. That
both scalp and bone were missing from over the brain, and they could see
inside the skull. There were NO "flaps". The "upper right side of JFK's
head had only the small triangular flap of bone open. That may have been
an exit from a different bullet fired from the buildings on Houston
Street.

The 'large hole' at the BOH was noticed by all, and those witnesses
were included in the list of 40+ witnesses that saw it.


Chris

[bigdog]

On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:25:55 PM UTC-4, Mike wrote:
> On 9/30/2014 3:16 PM, bigdog wrote:
>
> Didn't you say you were a lawyer?
>

No.

>
> I am not going to play lawyer games with you.
>
> You should be able to answer everyone of those questions you ask.

I have no obligation to respond to all the silliness that comes out of the
CT camp. That would be a 24/7 operation.

[Mike]

This is about "reasonableness" now bigdog.

You opened that keg of worms.

We are going to see who is reasonable and who is full of doo doo.

[Anthony Marsh]

But you have plenty of time to make up straw man arguments.