who was "Ferris"?

[doctorw]

Was it ever determined (or theorized) exactly who was the "Ferris"
that was written into Ruby's personal address book?

Sure is close enough to Ferrie to me for thinking there might have
been, at the very least, a spark of curiosity by the investigators of
the WC and HSCA.

[Ramon F. Herrera]

A related question: When they talk about "phone records" kept by the
vintage 1963 phone companies, do they refer to long distance only or
also to local calls? I assume that those days the subscriber could
make any number of local calls and hence there was no need to record
them.

I will post this in a technical newsgroup as well.

-Ramon

[Canuck]

It certainly appeared to be a reference to David Ferrie. I don't recall
the name being in Ruby's address book, however. Do you have a copy of it?
You might be interested in reading my article "Did David Ferrie Lie to the
Secret Service?" in regard to his claim that he hadn't been in Dallas in
ten years. The phone records of Ferrie from and to G. Wray Gill's office
show that Ferrie was indeed in Dallas and other Texas cities numerous
times in the early 1960s. My article is available at:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/whitmeyferrie.htm, and there is a link to a
two-year phone list of Ferrie's long distance calls.

Another intriguing name that appears in Ruby's address book is Charles R.
Isaacs, whom likely was the "Isaacs" referred to in a Winnipeg airport
restaurant conversation between two men, overheard by Winnipeg resident
and businessman Richard Giesbrecht. Giesbrecht later identified one of
the men as being Ferrie. My three articles on that subject are available
at Ken Rahn's website - http://www.kenrahn.html (or possibly .htm) Scroll
down left side column to "the critics" and my name. - Peter R. Whitmey

[Canuck]

On Thursday, April 4, 2013 4:27:28 AM UTC-7, doctorw wrote:

> Was it ever determined (or theorized) exactly who was the "Ferris" that was written into Ruby's personal address book? Sure is close enough to Ferrie to me for thinking there might have been, at the very least, a spark of curiosity by the investigators of the WC and HSCA.

Oops! Make that http://www.kenrahn.com (and click on his JFK site). - prw

[Robert Harris]

doctorw wrote:
> Was it ever determined (or theorized) exactly who was the "Ferris"
> that was written into Ruby's personal address book?

I couldn't find that name in Ruby's address book in the Dallas city
archives.

Do you have a link to a photocopy of it?




Robert Harris

[deke]

I worked as a technician for a local phone company starting in the late
sixties. Call records back then were made for toll(long distance) calls
only and were recorded on paper tape. There was no way to generate
detailed records for local calls. There were local metered lines, but only
the number of calls made would be indicated - no info about the call
itself.

[Ace Kefford]

Bueller? ... Bueller? ... Bueller?

[doctorw]

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/14/1439-003.gif

Box 5, Folder 4, Item 7, Photocopies of pages from a notebook labeled
as "notebook #1"

[Robert Harris]

Got it. Thanks.



Robert Harris

[robert0...@gmail.com]

Warren Commission Armstrong exhibit 5309-A shows Ferrie's name in Ruby's
address book. The FBI said it was written as "Ferris", but the last letter
sure looks like an "E" to me.

[tom...@cox.net]

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=====AND, THE COMMISSION NEVER IDENTIFIED FERRIS NOR DID THEY EVER CALL HIM
TO TESTIFY THAT IT WAS HE WHO RUBY KNEW !
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[Anthony Marsh]

Bueller?
Anybody?

[Jason Burke]

I thought you knew everything, Toy.
Now might be a good time to chime in.

[Anthony Marsh]

Sure. It's an homage. I stole that trick from a WC defender.

[Robert Harris]

In article <2d6c3921-6c51-4e33...@googlegroups.com>,

Any idiot can figure out why Ferrie's name was in Ruby's address book.

What is truly astounding, is how little anyone in this newsgroup cares.




Robert Harris

[stevemg...@yahoo.com]

We have a fuzzy photo of a name that looks, to me, like Ferris with no
first name. No phone number, no address. Nothing else.

And from this image alone you are connecting Ruby with David Ferrie?

Do you think that's a logical, sensible way of thinking?

[Mitch Todd]

wrote :

>On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 10:52:40 PM UTC-5, Robert Harris wrote:
>> In article <2d6c3921-6c51-4e33...@googlegroups.com>,
>> robert0...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, April 4, 2013 at 7:27:28 AM UTC-4, Doctor W wrote:
>> > > Was it ever determined (or theorized) exactly who was the "Ferris"
>> > > that was written into Ruby's personal address book?
>> > >
>> > > Sure is close enough to Ferrie to me for thinking there might have
>> > > been, at the very least, a spark of curiosity by the investigators of
>> > > the WC and HSCA.
>> >
>> > Warren Commission Armstrong exhibit 5309-A shows Ferrie's name in
>> > Ruby's
>> > address book. The FBI said it was written as "Ferris", but the last
>> > letter
>> > sure looks like an "E" to me.
>>
>> Any idiot can figure out why Ferrie's name was in Ruby's address book.
>>
>> What is truly astounding, is how little anyone in this newsgroup cares.
>

>We have a fuzzy photo of a name that looks, to me, like Ferris with no
>first name. No phone number, no address. Nothing else.

The entry looks like:

Lyndon 42555
Ferri*

I wonder if anyone has realized yet that Ferris is a small town
near Dallas.

[Ace Kefford]

Crap, you beat me to it!

[Anthony Marsh]

Just for fun let's play the kook game.
So you think the 42555 is a Zip Code?
But they didn't have Zip Codes yet.
How about a phone number? What do you get if you dial 42555?
Nothing.


Maybe that's the old style exchange like Pennsylvania Six FIVE THOUSAND.

PEnnsylvania 6-5000 is a telephone number in New York City, written in
the 2L+5N (two letters, five numbers) format that was common in the
largest US cities from approximately 1930 into the 1960s. The named
Pennsylvania exchange served the area around Penn Station in New York.
The two letters, PE, stand for the numbers 7 and 3, making the phone
number 736-5000, not including the +1-212 area code for Manhattan.

The number is best known from the 1940 hit song "PEnnsylvania 6-5000", a
swing jazz and pop standard recorded by the Glenn Miller Orchestra. Its
owner, the Hotel Pennsylvania, claims it to be the oldest continuing
telephone number in New York City.[1] While the hotel opened in 1919,
the exact age of the telephone number and the veracity of the hotel's
claim are unknown.

But that's too retro.
Maybe it means Lyndon Johnson. Maybe Ruby had LBJ's private phone number.
Gee, this is fun.
What does the asterisk mean? I didn't see any asterisk on the original.
Are you altering historic documents to promote a kook theory?

[Anthony Marsh]

On 4/19/2015 9:54 PM, stevemg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 10:52:40 PM UTC-5, Robert Harris wrote:
>> In article <2d6c3921-6c51-4e33...@googlegroups.com>,
>> robert0...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, April 4, 2013 at 7:27:28 AM UTC-4, Doctor W wrote:
>>>> Was it ever determined (or theorized) exactly who was the "Ferris"
>>>> that was written into Ruby's personal address book?
>>>>
>>>> Sure is close enough to Ferrie to me for thinking there might have
>>>> been, at the very least, a spark of curiosity by the investigators of
>>>> the WC and HSCA.
>>>
>>> Warren Commission Armstrong exhibit 5309-A shows Ferrie's name in Ruby's
>>> address book. The FBI said it was written as "Ferris", but the last letter
>>> sure looks like an "E" to me.
>>
>> Any idiot can figure out why Ferrie's name was in Ruby's address book.
>>
>> What is truly astounding, is how little anyone in this newsgroup cares.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert Harris
>
> We have a fuzzy photo of a name that looks, to me, like Ferris with no
> first name. No phone number, no address. Nothing else.
>

What if Ferris IS the first name? What if Ferris is a place?

> And from this image alone you are connecting Ruby with David Ferrie?
>
> Do you think that's a logical, sensible way of thinking?
>

Well, it's a fun thing to do.

[Jason Burke]

Ya didn't need the `1` back in the 30s. Or even the 60s. (Would you like
to explain to the class just why, Tony?)

>
> The number is best known from the 1940 hit song "PEnnsylvania 6-5000", a
> swing jazz and pop standard recorded by the Glenn Miller Orchestra. Its
> owner, the Hotel Pennsylvania, claims it to be the oldest continuing
> telephone number in New York City.[1] While the hotel opened in 1919,
> the exact age of the telephone number and the veracity of the hotel's
> claim are unknown.
>
> But that's too retro.
> Maybe it means Lyndon Johnson. Maybe Ruby had LBJ's private phone number.
> Gee, this is fun.

Yes, why, yes it is, Tony.

[Bud]

On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 11:52:40 PM UTC-4, Robert Harris wrote:
> In article <2d6c3921-6c51-4e33...@googlegroups.com>,
> robert0...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, April 4, 2013 at 7:27:28 AM UTC-4, Doctor W wrote:
> > > Was it ever determined (or theorized) exactly who was the "Ferris"
> > > that was written into Ruby's personal address book?
> > >
> > > Sure is close enough to Ferrie to me for thinking there might have
> > > been, at the very least, a spark of curiosity by the investigators of
> > > the WC and HSCA.
> >
> > Warren Commission Armstrong exhibit 5309-A shows Ferrie's name in Ruby's
> > address book. The FBI said it was written as "Ferris", but the last letter
> > sure looks like an "E" to me.
>
> Any idiot can figure out why Ferrie's name was in Ruby's address book.

Maybe the case needs less idiot figuring.

> What is truly astounding, is how little anyone in this newsgroup cares.

Show us why we should care that this name appears in Ruby`s notebook.

>
>
>
> Robert Harris

[Anthony Marsh]

I didn't SAY you needed to dial 1 before the number. Just try dialing
the 5 digits and see what you get.

[stevemg...@yahoo.com]

If this is an example of how he analyzes evidence it's no wonder he sees
Carlos Marcello firing a gun at z-285.

I might not have the exactly right but close enough for conspiracy work.